Red Dead Redemption on Switch: Better Than Xbox 360, Comparable To PS4

[@wanderingwobb6300]

Still in shock and awe that RDR1 hit a Nintendo platform before (officially) being available on PC. Can't say I have much faith in Rockstar to do anything that wows me like RDR2 did anytime soon. Update: Yes we know.

[@91yearsoldandproud]

* Dutch voice * “ HAVE SOME GOD DAMN FAITH!”

[@Knightfox64]

Considering how much they hated modders when gta 5 came out I wouldn’t expect them to release anymore pc ports anymore

[@gonnsolo8506]

Switch emulation on PC is really good tho

[@cabecorra91]

If they release to the switch, you already have the PC port too ;D

[@sdaafasfad]

​@@cabecorra91I waited ages for it to come out on PC, so I wouldn't have to resort to emulation. RDR via Xenia on PC is the way to go, 4K and 60fps is possible if your PC is good enough. It's a shame though, I was waiting for Rockstar to remaster it so I wouldn't have to resort to emulation but oh well, here we are...

[@xizar0rg]

Hopefully the physical version actually has the entire game on the card, rather than being a code in a box or requiring some kind of download.

[@b1elal]

If it’s 11GB then I’m pretty sure the card can handle it

[@NintendoMania]

Depends if they are lazy about it or not

[@gregwilliams4926]

LA Noire on Switch needed a download with the card, so it might be around the same unless LA Noire needed more power. But there is no download required on the display box but we're gonna have to see.

[@Kniffel101]

@@b1elal If publishers were willing to pay for it, they could even put games >= 32GB and

[@Nintenboy01]

@@b1elal hopefully they spring for a 16GB card and not just 8GB

[@1ButtonDash]

13 years later... boy time does fly. I remember seeing videos of this game online before release and I could not wait.

[@anglo-saxonconnor817]

This is a great addition to the switch library. I wish sleeping dogs would also made it over to the switch as well too.

[@Igolorbr]

Sleeping Dogs is great too.

[@PanPrezeso]

Dont forget dead island 1 too

[@peppersteakpie4986]

Sleeping dogs was great

[@alexandroswashere3089]

I bought sleeping dogs 2 times 1 physical and 1 digital copy.Wouldnt mind getting it a third time.Its that good!

[@GothamiteYT]

So many 7th Gen games should be on Switch. I need Dark Souls 2 on Switch

[@LarcoVisuals]

if you were to tell me Red Dead Redemption would be released on a Nintendo console 13 years later with a £40 price tag i would have laughed, what a weird time we’re living in

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Half the game for 50 bucks

[@MultiYippee]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 that's a bit dramatic. 90% of people remember this game for its story mode and DLC, not for its multiplayer

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

@@MultiYippee loll, no. The multiplayer carried the game for years

[@nikolaiiscoolguyproduction4807]

I would have been more shocked to hear that it would come out for ps4 years into the ps5 lifespan.

[@Kontekst]

@@MultiYippee it had multiplayer??

[@BENergizer1]

I suspect that the Switch is what this port was about from the beginning. The fact that the game runs almost locked to 30fps at 1080p on Switch tells me that the porting team were targeting it specifically. I think the PS4 port was an incidental thing that came about after the Switch version was mostly completed and they had a code base they could move to other platforms, but didn't have the time/budget to add anything fancy to it beyond FSR 2.

[@Bee_Mavrick]

Agreed. I mean it's freaking rdr, on the switch. 😊

[@teodorcaraba979]

Doh

[@sabagecabage7828]

@@Bee_Mavrickto bad you're insulting the community by buying it. I'll be waiting till it goes on sale and I havnt ever played the game! Im more inclined to spend $30 cnd that $65 cnd

[@Trespasser2003]

@@sabagecabage7828omg stop making yourself some kind of victim lol

[@bmwjs1]

Naw you are getting played. It’s a 360 game. And ps3 game that should be like 20 bucks at best (it’s a port) when you buy this stuff you get the last of us 2 remake for ps5 for possibly 70 dollars……

[@Owlero]

It really does look incredible on the Switch OLED in handheld mode. Especially the red and black menus and screen filters.

[@willianjohnam]

Still a shame this masterpiece isn't available on pc (at least not officially)

[@__Lento__]

luckily the switch is really easy to emulate lmao

[@mmpsp693]

Emulating the Switch is probably the way to go, but I can't help to believe it will be released in a few months time

[@gekko092]

It's fully playable on Xenia already anyway. Yuzu is just a new option now.

[@XenuLordofTheSky]

Imagine emulating it using YuZu. Lmao.

[@jondon1079]

It is? I haven't kept up Xenia for a while, has it really come that far?

[@H4xstyrofoam]

Due to pricing changes and issues with the Canadian dollar, this port actually ended up retailing for more than when it originally released. Very cool...

[@Gwilherm]

Yep I"m on the same boat! Almost 70$ in quebec!

[@ironbru1986]

It's a dumb price in the UK (and probably every where to be honest) too, it's £40 which is about CA$70.@@Gwilherm

[@ScrapKing73]

Meanwhile you can but it on Xbox for $30 CAD (plus $10 CAD for Unread Nightmare), with enhancements if run on a One X or Series X. The pricing for these ports is indeed ridiculous.

[@icedcapplord710]

​@ScrapKing73 Although I'm pretty sure Undead Nightmare on 360 is permanently bugged because of the patches which spawned the softlock headless undead glitch

[@MJTH]

It appears that some players have found that the light around camp fires can be broken at times. As in the campfire doesn't cast light or shadow. Hopefully this can be fixed in a patch.

[@vanivan5202]

At times? Never saw it being working there. Might be a bug indeed, bcs it surely can't be Metroid Prime Remastered lights problem, surely...

[@Chunnibyoubaka]

Literally unplayable

[@vanivan5202]

Btw, even in this video there is a footage of Undead Nightmare, where Switch does not emit any light from burning bushes and whatever. So, now I'm 100% convinced that they completely removed dynamic lights from everywhere and instead are relying on prebaked lighting and sun position for shadows. That's really a bummer, sadly DF missed that.

[@jimhultqvist2539]

There are a fail amount of bugs in this game, and I think they're in the patched original version 360/PS3 as well...I doubt Rockstar gonna patch in further than 1.0.1

[@vanivan5202]

@@jimhultqvist2539missing lights is purely a porting problem and it's Double Elevens responsibility. But would they care and fix that by reimplementing the whole lighting system specifically for Switch version? I really doubt.

[@tayjn]

I look forward to picking this up on sale for £10 in a few years, definitely not paying anywhere near £40 for this

[@ogkendrick6392]

25 or 30€ would've been soo much behah

[@quadrosglenn]

Available to emulate no reason to wait really.

[@FungeHucker]

I'm playing it on PS5 (bought it out of curiosity) and while it's a really solid remaster/port, it's one you where wanna wait for a sale. At like £10-20 it's a good buy. Fantastic game though. Still holds up well today.

[@arioca]

Used at a bargain bin, not to support these garbage companies.

[@lemonsuckerYT]

​@fungehucker2515 remaster/port? It's just a port, there was no remastering done here

[@paulszki]

I bought RDR used for xbox360 and played it on Series X and it just looks pretty great. I think auto-HDR can be enabled (not sure though, it's been a while) and it basically runs at a locked 4K. It does NOT get the Series X FPS boost so it's still locked at 30fps. Since the game was developed with 30 fps in mind, it's obviously still very playable. I do like that the the orignal physical release comes with an actual printed folded map of the open world to check out, which can actually be relevant for some of the missions and it's just cool to overhear a conversation where someones says "it's just north of X" and then you put down the controller tp check on the physical map and it's just... cool and immersive.

[@sandman8920]

Interesting. I haven’t played it yet but I have a one x.

[@paulszki]

@@sandman8920 There are a couple of older games that look very next-gen-ish on series X. Like everyone hated CoD Infinite Warfare because of the multiplayer but the campaign was actually pretty cool and on Series X it's a locked 60fps4k and basically looks pretty spectacular. No remaster needed. If you can get a physical copy second hand for like 10 bucks it's entirely worth the ride.

[@southsidetherealest2860]

@@sandman8920 its 4k on one x too everybody keep forgetting that one x play some 360 games in 4k some that I play that are 4k would be Splinter Cell double agent 360 and Oringal xbox also in 4k Ninja Gaiden 2,DOA 2 ultimate,DOA3 is also 4k on One X,Max Payne etc no fps boost or auto HDR tho thats only on the Series consoles

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

I’m very happy with a Switch game running at the native 720p in portable and 1080p docked and runs well, better than on the original consoles. So many Switch games run at around 540p and still go much lower in frame rate so this is very good. Should look good on the Switch OLED in portable mode.

[@jesusbarrera6916]

So glad a PS360 game runs at 1080p 30fps.... The bare minimum.

[@JohnSmith-XYZ]

No TAA makes it unplayable.

[@yellowblanka6058]

Well yeah, it's a port of a PS3/360 game and therefore much less technically demanding, most Wii-U ports run at higher resolutions as well.

[@arcanocz]

Stunning that the switch runs it better than the 2005-06 consoles, the Switch is a beast.

[@yellowblanka6058]

@@arcanocz I mean....not really 11/12 years separate the release of those consoles from the Switch (and they were using tech that was adapted/developed years before the consoles themselves released) so it really is not some indictment of the power of the Switch that it can run them better -it SHOULD be able to run them better. This is of course assuming you're being serious and not facetious.

[@speedyink]

I always wondered why a developer would ever decide to use Anisotropic turned low/off.. I pretty much never found much if at all a performance penalty for using it, even on computers years ago.

[@TitusSc]

I wished DF would do a piece on the usage of anisotropic filtering on consoles, especially on Nintendo consoles. I don't think there has ever been a single first -party Nintendo game with AF on, and I don't even think there has ever been third-party games on Nintendo consoles with AF on, in spite of the hardware having support for AF since the GameCube and their official dev documentation explicitly mentioning it. I dug into the whole the whole thing a while back and if my memory serves me right, anisotropic filtering implementations were all patent-encumbered up until 2015 or something and Nintendo not wanting to pay for it never used it. But I could also be 100% wrong. Considering how anisotropic filtering dramatically improves the look of terrain textures on games like BOTW and TOTK, it always rubbed me the wrong way that Nintendo chose to ignore it.

[@bltzcstrnx]

AF is heavy on memory bandwidth in which Switch is very lacking.

[@AB_223]

Gave the Switch version a go and found myself putting in quite a few hours. Much better than the PS3 version I’d attempted to play the past few years. Not bad.

[@phant0mdummy]

Hey, it's your 50 dollars

[@timytimeerased]

anythin is better than the ps3 version tho 😅

[@sonyx5332]

@@timytimeerased Yeah, sure.

[@ralphengland8559]

I'm tempted. But having access to it on series S I'm not asking to pay 50 bucks. 19.99 for sure. Maybe even 29.99

[@angtang01]

homebrew bruh@@phant0mdummy

[@MB20978]

Cool! Now we can just sit and wait until it goes on sale and drops to a reasonable price that it should have launched with.

[@obinator9065]

i just sat around for 20 minutes, got a rom and emulate it at 4k60 at $0.

[@vollkerball1]

Nintendo? Probably about 10 years. Sony? Next month.

[@DoliSkipper]

More correctly, Rockstar Nintendo don't set the prices on third party titles or decide when (and if) they go on sale. Up to Rockstar.

[@jaspelino1963]

@@vollkerball1that’s BS. Third party games are discounted just as much and just as often on Switch as on PSN.

[@AngelosONe]

@@jaspelino1963But Rockstar takes forever to discount games. GTA5 took like 5 years before it got a somewhat decent sale. They aren’t as bad as Nintendo, but they aren’t like other Publishers that discount relatively soon. Rockstar has so much money, they don’t need to discount to get more sales.

[@Zveebo]

While it isn’t the most revolutionary port, if you’d told me at Switch’s release that we would get RDR for it one day, my mind would have been completely blown tbh.

[@Blanco8x8]

A faithful handheld version of a popular console game is always exciting. Like what Super Mario 64 did for the DS and Ocarina of Time for the 3DS.

[@kostasbousbouras2654]

Why? It's a 15 years old game released in the 7th gen.

[@0vercheese]

Plus the switch is obsolete tech it barely passes 7th gen console tech. This coulda been a launch title and still wouldn’t be impressed

[@PrimeVirtualReality]

Would love to see a DF Retro on Mirror's Edge, i remember being stunned by the graphics and the cool "gimmick" of PhysX on my 9800gtx+

[@TylerMBuller12]

Same I loved that game. It's a one of a kind experience. It sucks that the sequel took a more generic open world approach and kind of fell on its face.

[@nbodeh4658]

Rockstar and Blizzard will never come back because of "diversity studies" in USA. They literally hire people based on their sexuality and ethnicity, not skills and passion, which is extremely racist... But who am I to say that right I'm just one white male. Anyway, that's why we get passionless garbage on all fronts, in movies like new star wars, new Lotr series, Witcher on netflix, 90% of gaming industry, absolutely everything coming out of blizzard, Ubisoft etc

[@MadX8]

@@TylerMBuller12 Catalyst is great. It gets so much hate for no reason. There is nothing generic about Catalyst really. I love Mirror's Edge but Catalyst is exactly what people asked for, and then didn't like it. Such a special game though, I do prefer Catalyst over the first ME.

[@perpetualcollapse]

Understandable, have a nice day.

[@maacha286]

Thank you come again

[@Kamreezyy]

Lazy port for sure, rockstar could’ve at least added 60fps to nex gen consoles.

[@lil_per_vert]

Theres no 60fps cuz of Switch incompetancy, they cant make Ps4 version better than Switch.

[@vilotarian]

​@@lil_per_vertIt can actually run at 60fps on a modded Switch, so it's possible, they were just too lazy to do it.

[@Thebossstage1]

​@@lil_per_vert They could update it to run at 60fps on PS5

[@lil_per_vert]

@@-pressxtostart- if others get 60 fps, Switch users will feel left out. Thats why its 30 fps. No one should feel superior and it should sell adequetly on all consoles. Rockstar : "RDR 2 doesn't have 60fps, why should RDR have it ?!! 😂"

[@reach5589]

Obviously you have never heard Straus Ballsack talk before.

[@gnydsmelt2215]

Was waiting for DF's take on the switch version specifically! Thanks for this

[@yeahiknow9361]

Was looking forward to this analysis and am thrilled to see Tom doing it - my favorite DF analyst.

[@Beaut_Beau]

My least favourite.

[@emperormilk2.2billionviews77]

@@Beaut_Beaubig k

[@corey2232]

I'm one of those who was disappointed RDR didn't get a proper PS5/SX remaster, but at the same time, I think the Switch version has a reason to exist. Switch somehow never got a GTA5 port, and having RDR on the go is nice. Nintendo gamers don't get mainline Rockstar games often, so even if its years late, it's cool to see it exist.

[@lightdarksoul2097]

I'm hoping Switch gets gta 4 at least I never played the whole thing with dlc

[@corey2232]

@@lightdarksoul2097 It probably would've been a great idea to do a GTA4 port, but I think it's a bit late for that now when people are looking to GTA6. Also, modern Rockstar doesn't seem interested in their back catalog for whatever reason. I wish they were, but GTA5 is just too profitable & they seem content at leaving it at that.

[@lightdarksoul2097]

True but hey you never know here's hoping. I doubt it would take any attention away from gta 6 since they could get the porting studio for it that did rdr@@corey2232

[@Manic_Panic]

Often? Besides the crappy defective edition, Nintendo hasn't gotten a Rockstar game since GTA Chinatown Wars on the DS and GTA Advance on the GBA (which is the worst GTA game ever). This is the first proper game they get with no strings attached.

[@corey2232]

@Manic_Panic Pretty sure Switch got LA Noire too

[@WH250398]

This should have been 60 fps on ps5 and series x.

[@kraenk12]

Even PS4 could run this at 60fps!

[@SilverGeFer]

Could’ve been 60 FPS even on Xbox One and PS4

[@WH250398]

@@kraenk12 Not too sure about that. Pro maybe with its gpu headroom, but the cpu always held things back.

[@paulb4519]

Rockstar will sell the 60fps version to you in a year or so. Just like they did with GTA 5

[@SilverGeFer]

@@WH250398 That’s why resolution and graphics tweaks exist. In an age where modern games all have Performance and Quality modes, I’m sure they could’ve done that for this new 2023 release even on older hardware. I mean look at the modded Switch almost hitting 60 FPS. With a little more effort put into this port, it could’ve hit 60 FPS

[@Marty6804]

I remember playing the game on both 360 and ps3 back in the day and being baffled by how badly the ps3 version looked. At the time I didn’t realize how hard devs had it when trying to port to that system. And it really shows with this game. The 360 version was far superior.

[@GGoblin1]

This was the case with most multi-platform games of 7th gen

[@leftyfourguns]

Most multi plat games of that gen are worse on the PS3. Devs really just didn't want to mess around with its "unique" architecture

[@Manic_Panic]

@@leftyfourguns After 2009, most devs were already adapted to the PS3 so ports started looking much more similar. GTA 5 and Max Payne 3 for example are 1:1 the same.

[@Loundsify]

But then GTA V the PS3 ran it better.

[@zorastin]

@@Loundsify no get your fanboy brain out of here across the board the 360 was a better version of gta5 not by mch but had far better consistency with frame rates. you ps fanboys never change.

[@Michael-hm8dm]

I have been playing on Switch and for me it is well worth the price. There is a lot of content here and even though it released 13 years ago it is still a high quality game. Rockstar games put a lot of love into this game and i never could have imagined i would play it on a handheld back when i was playing on the PS3. It still holds up and has fantastic voice acting.

[@ryanblanchard2508]

I agree this game was made with tremendous passion.

[@KRGraphicsCG]

Even 13 years later, STILL a masterpiece.

[@Jabba094]

If only they treated it as such

[@KRGraphicsCG]

@@Jabba094 very true. I still have my original disc from the X360 to this very day and I play it like I bought it yesterday. And I play it in 1080p

[@naimfebruary9913]

​@@KRGraphicsCGwhich is better rdr 1 or rdr2?

[@DJBV]

​​@@naimfebruary9913i played both and i prefer rdr1

[@Wanderlauch]

Why shouldn't it be a masterpiece today if it was once considered one?

[@adamdavis1737]

It's been awesome to have this portably, but it's a bit of a shock to the system as well. My last two playthroughs of this game we're on Xbox One when it was added to backwards compatibility, and then again on the Xbox One X when they had an update that took advantage of that hardware. So I'm used to this game incrementally looking better and better, and now back here on switch even in portable mode it's a little fuzzy and I feel like the draw distance might even be slightly worse than it was on 360. It's still a phenomenal looking game the art direction is great. About between that and then two playthroughs of Red Dead 2 which in my opinion is still the most gorgeous game I've ever played, this one is showing its age more than I remember. Of all those playthroughs I've had of this game I also don't remember the horses being so damn janky Either way I'm still excited to go through it again, this was my favorite game ever made... Until they made a sequel lol

[@Alex-pk1iy]

Prequel* ;)

[@adamdavis1737]

@@Alex-pk1iy whatever man. Subsequent title

[@aegisfate117]

​@@adamdavis1737words have meanings tho

[@adamdavis1737]

@@aegisfate117 yep they do and everyone knows what I meant here

[@joejoe2658]

there is no advantage of using an xbox. no gyro, no vr, no haptics, no magic triggers. no brains.

[@1995krampe]

As greedy as the price is I hope rockstar sees the demand in games on the switch and ports more games

[@Dakobra_]

I'm honestly shocked that they haven't bothered porting more of their back catalog to Switch, GTA V especially.

[@tyrone2423]

​​@@Dakobra_Fr i honestly thought we'd see GTAV after LA Noire Like graphics from the Xbox360 version with the new content seems like a no brainer

[@lisa4471]

Yeah that would be amazing

[@cmac8722]

I haven't played it docked yet, but handheld on the OLED is impressive. I've ignored the high price point and not complained like others (I get it's a ridiculously high price, but the cost of everything is massively higher than it used to be and remember, Rockstar are not forcing you to buy the game people), because I love RDR and have wanted to play it portably since I've had my Switch. It's ran perfectly well for me so far and I'm just so surprised it runs on the Switch. I'm wondering then, that given this runs fine on Switch, maybe the original version of GTA 5 can be ported over. I would love to be able to play that portably on the Switch.

[@Solar_sigma_]

I’ve been waiting for DF’s breakdown 😁

[@lesterbronson2385]

Buying this at full price is just enforcing Rockstar’s bare minimum efforts. Supporting this is letting them know that consumers will eat up just about anything. Goodluck with Rockstar producing quality anytime soon.

[@saintsalieri]

Buying this at full price is just someone saying they want to play this game on the console they have. I promise you there are topics that are actually morally serious, buying a video game is not one of them.

[@evrythingis1]

What else are you going to play on an ancient POS nintendo console?

[@ot9523]

I’ve had this on Xbox since 2018 when it became backwards compatible on Xbox and i got it from the store with un dead nightmare for about £10 from Xbox store and it runs at 4K on Xbox series X and red dead 2 is the only console version with true 4K this is a total ripoff at £40 lol

[@saintsalieri]

@@ot9523 Yeah, it doesn't make sense for you to buy a game you already own and that you don't want to play again. What's fascinating is that people other than you exist and what people do for entertainment really isn't your business. If someone buys this game then ipso facto it has value for them, there's no moral high ground here.

[@americasteam2112]

Are the ports bad? Nope. Is the remasters for the GTA trilogy bad? Yes. Should it be $50? Probably not but that is up to the costumer if they want to pay that amount. Worrying about what others pay use their money for is just weird.

[@marco.pereira]

This is impressive. I had this on PS4 and best it but I wanted to play this again and in handheld mode at times + I sold my PS4 game. This was one of my favorite games of that era and having a great time playing it again especially that I can take it on the go when i take my son to soccer practice with 1.5 hrs to kill. Hard to get in game time as a dad, but this is huge for me.

[@VictorHuff]

With how little effort they seemed to have put into this port, I'm surprised they got the game to run at 1080p on the Switch at all, much less with a mostly stable 30fps.

[@thechosenone4985]

I played RDR on PS3 and over RGB Scart cables on a Crt. This Game looked so good. The dark areas and the sunlight gives RDR a really realistic touch on a Crt. I think these Consoles Ps3 and Xbox 360 were created with Crt in mind and not HDMI LED TVs. The most Games from this Generation looks and runs better on older TVs connect with RGB scart cable.

[@TylerMBuller12]

The great part about this port is the from the emulation prospective with the switch version. I can now play rdr on my steam deck at 30 to 45 fps through yuzu and a 60 fps fps patch. It's also a good alternative to xenia on pc if you don't have a great gpu. I would of rather had a remake especially considering half of rdrs map was already remade in rdr 2 even the basic layout for mexico but at least something good came out of this. Rdr ages like a fine wine any way.

[@Mike0193Azul]

Def getting this on switch. Enjoyed the gameplay and story of this one more than the second. In the second every enemy used the same guns the entire game which made no sense and the story become nonsense after like the second heist. The multiplayer on the first was also better so it’s a bummer it is not included

[@veqzor]

Still disappointed in the lack of a pc port

[@valhallaoutcast]

just emulate on PC, not sure what a Steam version would add

[@stylie473joker5]

Hint: you can play it on pc by emulation on switch lol not to mention Xenia

[@RemixedVoice]

Same. I have zero interest in this release. I can already play the game on my Xbox through backwards compatibility. I can't fathom why Rockstar didn't release it on PC. I'm pretty sure they like money, no? Lol

[@xXSonTJXxx]

Just play it on yuzu

[@veqzor]

@@valhallaoutcast easier to legally buy it

[@YAY_BROWNIES]

I thought series x back compatibility was the best version is it not? Plus with multiplayer is a good bonus.

[@abel5333]

Gotta click bait

[@jjnet123]

PS4 pro version is now.

[@Supersayainpikmin]

They never said its the best version in the title.

[@YAY_BROWNIES]

@jjproductionscorp well the pro vs reg ps4 doesn't really matter if it still runs the same as switch and 360 at 30fps but no multiplayer, none of the visual enhancements seem that much better to me if it's a compromise of multiplayer.

[@Gwilherm]

Series X is the best version

[@Justmeandmy20cents]

This guy is the best on DF, a long with their leader. I just like how they talk better, it's more clean and to the point.

[@juancimino296]

So happy about this port, wish more games had this treatment such as Fallout or Dark Souls 2. I honestly dont get all the hate, its not like the Switch could have run the game if it had a remaster and its clearly currently running the game at its maximum capabilities. I agree the princing isnt the best but there are many previous titles such as this that had the same pricing problem and nobody said a thing. Examples for this could be Dark Souls, Skyrim, Dying Light, The Witcher 3, Diablo 3 and many others, all of them released at full price. I kinda understand the hate it gets on behalf of Playstation and PC owners but for us Switch owners makes no sense. One last thing, I am pretty sure the pricing problem is because Nintendo is releasing the physical version, we have many previous examples of this.

[@infameplay]

I hope GTA IV gets "relaunched" one day....

[@Arpadiam]

runs fantastic on ryujinx, 60fps 1080p upscale x2 R5 3600 / 1650s / 16gb ddr4 / latest build of ryu

[@MultiYippee]

Holy shit, 4K 60 FPS on a 1650 Super? I've got a 6700 XT. I need to try this. Are there any FPS cap removal mods yet?

[@Default_Defect]

@@MultiYippee yup, but it runs fine with just unlocking vsync too, the animations aren't tied to framerate like a lot of switch stuff.

[@sadjesse]

Was waiting for the DF review! Other KZbin channels claim they have tested the Switch frame rate, but they didn’t say anything about the drops at the farm. I’m traveling soon and I never played RDR1, so I’ll give it try. Thank you for a great informative review (:

[@Canma890]

I payed for the digital xbox 360 version in 2018 only 20€. Now playing it upscaled on the Series S.

[@RJH755]

If it drops down to about half price I might grab it since it'd be nice to have the physical version, I just wish it had gyro

[@jeveritt8398]

Especially given rockstar games don't have the best shooting so gyro would help quite a bit

[@willwunsche6940]

Proper gyro support is a great idea and would've really added a lot to the port

[@PugO.]

Benefit of Switch version for PC players is that it's very easy to emulate and run at 60 fps, the ps3 and 360 emulators are cool but can be jank with this game. Still want a native port.

[@Soup-man]

This is Rockstar we're talking. It's coming next year. I mean that's what they did with GTA 5 and RDR2

[@ChristianHedman]

@@Soup-man how so? This game was released thirteen years ago on console. RDR2 and GTA5 on PC was not thirteen years after console release.

[@Soup-man]

@@ChristianHedman Good point. Although, back then it was coding nightmare for the PS3, and GTA 4's port was a disaster at the time from what I've heard. Now the PS4 is X86 based like most PCs out there. So I think it's more likely that the PS4 version will be ported to PC.

[@startedtech]

I feel like the switch version shows how much headroom there is on the PS4 version for improvements

[@TheLastLineLive]

For sure. Ps4 shouldn’t have any trouble doing 1080p60 or at the very least 900p60. But they lazier it up.

[@chepecheapy308]

I thought his mic being such low quality was a joke eluding to the switch's hardware

[@meh78336]

It will be interesting to see what the "PC" version can do with it to unlock the FPS, AA and AF as well as other possible tweaks.

[@rangokfunkazuul8344]

When you unlock the fps on Switch, it actually runs at 55-60

[@Timeforceletsgo]

@@rangokfunkazuul8344IF you overclock nearly everything lol. Yes.

[@Dorraj]

​@@rangokfunkazuul8344yes. That was in the video. This person is talking about emulating the switch version and adding mods.

[@rangokfunkazuul8344]

@@Dorraj yeah I saw that afterwards

[@xtr.7662]

It doesnt its around 40fps when unlocked what your mentioning is with overclocks

[@FearNot777]

True, people can do what they want with their money, but the fact people will buy this bare bones port of an old game at a premium price pretty much sends a message to developers/game companies that we will settle for far far less and are happy to pay big bucks for it. So, dont complain when games charge you high prices for so little content (specially if ALL games are sold digital only moving forward)

[@levijefferson4185]

they've could've achieved GTA V to Switch as well

[@robertwahlstrom]

I actually prefer it's a straight up port than when they try to include every single visual effect in existance and do a port at 600p or something like that. I would say a locked 30 fps with 1080p resolution is fantastic. Making a port technically more complicated is not necessarily a better port.

[@Youtube-Censorship-Police]

considering that both, xbox 360 and ps3 had a more powerful cpu than the switch, nintendo's little handheld is performing extremely well.

[@lightdarksoul2097]

The switch is the stronger than the two. not by much but it is

[@corey2232]

The Switch has more sophisticated hardware overall, so it's not really that surprising it runs better. 360 had a 3 core @ 3.2GHz CPU vs Switch's 4 core @ 2GHz CPU, but also has 8 x the RAM as well.

[@Supersayainpikmin]

@@corey2232 It's also a more modern system so it has more up to date tools and engine support.

[@Youtube-Censorship-Police]

the ram doesn't really do much besides of texture res. and loading times, also don't forget that when the switch is undocked, gpu clock speed drops down more than 50% and memory clock goes from 1600 down to 1331, yet the game still runs mostly smooth in native 720p. and yeah it's a more modern architecture but it's dated too, coming from 2015. overall i think it is a pretty darn neat port.

[@dan_loup]

Well, seems like the whole "PS3 is actually more powerful than the switch" thing some people claim is actually dead and buried now.

[@WERV2003]

We all know that the Switch its more powerful than the 7th generations of consoles.

[@LuizFernando-li1du]

@@WERV2003 I've seen people trying to debate against it though

[@dan_loup]

@@WERV2003 sadly there are quite a few people that swear that its the case

[@wulfone5961]

I just got the physical version a few days ago. I didn't buy the digital version. I own the Greatest Hits version for the PS3 and the 360 version that Rockstar rereleased for the Xbox One years ago. I would say the Switch version is my favorite. The PS3 port is pretty bad. It runs at like 20-25 fps and looks bad. While the 360 version had 2x MSAA and ran at 720p native the PS3 port has no AA at all and it runs in 640p. The PS4 and Switch ports are the best way to play this game now. The Switch port looks better than the 360 version. I wouldn't even bother with the PS3 port unless you were really desperate to play it. But the thing that makes the Switch port so great is the handheld portability. You can play RDR anywhere. I don't regret spending $50 on the Switch port. You get RDR Undead Nightmare and all the GOTY edition content on the cart. No download codes. Two full AAA games for $25 each. Hundreds of hours worth of content. A game from the golden years of Rockstar. The pre GTAO years. It's an amazing games. It looks pretty good on the little Switch screen in 720p as well. I have bought other ports of games that were ported to Switch from other more powerful systems and it's kind of hit and miss. The Crash collection on Switch looks good Spyro looks good as well. But Destroy all Humans didn't look that great. But RDR looks really good.

[@bluemarvel5970]

Except you fail to mention the massive cut content of multiplayer. So no, its not 2 AAA games for 25 bucks each. Its 1 AAA game with cut content and 1 AAA game's DLC with cut content. Sure the performance is good and its nice to be able to play them anywhere but to omit such important negatives is crazy. Don't just glaze over it because you may love the series. Call out it's faults because you love the series.

[@BAMozzy69]

Its still a 'great' game and offers a LOT of hours worth of gaming that won Game of the Year - now bundled with its Undead Nightmare (although removing its 'dead' MP mode) so that Nintendo and Sony gamers can actually play this classic on their favourite hardware for the first time in its 'Original' condition, boosted resolutions keeping the 'experience' intact isn't a 'bad' thing. There are 'Many' gamers whose 'first' console maybe a Switch, PS4 or even PS5 and never played RDR or 'could' play it on their hardware. If you don't think paying £40/$50 for what was considered the Game of the Year 13yrs ago to play on 'Hardware' you currently game on, whether you 'played' it before - its still going to be technically 'better' than the PS3/360 version just on resolution and 'stability' of frame rate alone - RDR2 was '30fps' too so its 'consistent' or not, then don't buy at launch - wait until its at a 'price' you deem worthy. I'm sure it will drop in price if people are reluctant to pay that... I do agree though, that compared to Quake II, RDR's price does seem somewhat steep but then that price is what a 'AA' game tends to cost these days and is less than the £/$70 that 'new' games are costing that may 'look' graphically superior but maybe don't offer as much depth or value in terms of hours worth, maybe have to wait months to be 'consistently' playable with updates/patches, wait months, years even to get the 'full' game as its drip fed as a 'service' game, be riddled with micro-tansactions, season passes etc etc... To me £40 sounds great for an Amazing game with so much value in it compared to £70 for 'modern' games that often are more 'style over substance', over in 8hrs and have many issues at launch - but as I said it does seem 'steep' for a basic port with what seems 'little' effort to 'enhance' the game beyond a resolution bump and more stable 30fps game-play - I'd argue its keeping its 'integrity' and artistic design intact for 'preserving' the Original experience and selling to those who cannot play it on their preferred Hardware as it 'originally' was - like Xbox gamers can...

[@HTS21]

Im getting this on Nintendo only if the complete game is on the cart (screw digital downloads) and when its around $20.

[@boredape1257]

Developers did amazing job. Magical I would say. Original ps3 version was very demanding and they somehow managed to provide better fps on switch.

[@Zezinizzle]

Agreed it felt like botw for the 360/ps3, as in way too much for its system at the time

[@stateofmind578]

Recently bought the Xbox 360 version on disc for 10 euro On my Series X it also runs on 4k 30fps

[@evilmonkeywithissues]

I feel like this was much more justified at the price point set for the Switch. We're used to having to sell our organs to buy old games anyway. I'm sort of kidding.

[@austintse5719]

Nintendo switch got a RDR 1 port before PC. Why do Rockstar hate PC?

[@fredsorre6605]

Based on recent interviews of T2 Ceo stating that releasing a PC version is up to the Developers it's likely that we have another GTA trilogy remaster situation where Rockstar and T2 asked to have it be ported on all platforms but was not willing to pay much money and there for the Devs only agreed to port on to 2 platforms instead which is just ridiculous for a company as large as them.

[@RonnyLive19881]

I was hoping you would cover the odd shimmering around the horse and character when riding on the Switch version. I never checked a PS5 video if it is also a problem in that version. Otherwise fantastic port! Still don’t like the price but still loving the game again.

[@deleterguy]

It's because of the AA method it uses on switch compared to the PS4 pro version

[@JohnSmith-XYZ]

Switch version doesn't have TAA whereas the PS4 version of the remaster does; what you're seeing is shader aliasing. TAA takes care of that, Switch ver. doesn't have it.

[@RonnyLive19881]

It isn’t a problem in games like Breath of the Wild or Witcher 3, I figured they’d have a way of fixing it for this game. Shouldn’t be to difficult. Did the PS3/360 version have this problem.

[@BTMaverick707]

Switch owners are used to overpaying for games.

[@colinmx.]

Looks beautiful on switch 👌

[@void7357]

​@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 my bad man 😂

[@Snitsky9]

@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 lmao.

[@michaelmyersplays4992]

Nah you fanboy

[@randalthor6872]

@@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340 I want to play it again because it's been years! But I am one of those that feels insulted by the price tag. Looks really fun still though :) I'm gonna just wait until I can buy a preowned cartridge and not give any money to rockstar. And I'll buy a second steam key for baldurs gate 3 just to support an actually worthy game dev :)

[@michaelmyersplays4992]

Looks beautiful on Xbox playboi stop cappin dawg

[@panchri]

Good video on visuals. However, i also expected a comparison of loading times.

[@cronodoug]

That's what I wanted to see. How detailed the Switch port was.

[@coffinboy556]

Why is a console from 2017 being compared to a console from 2005..?

[@livinlikeeli6785]

Because the video game in this video is a port from that 2005 console

[@coffinboy556]

@@livinlikeeli6785 yes but it was also released on the ps4 and ps5 which is far more comparable to what it originally released on

[@livinlikeeli6785]

@@coffinboy556 Any system that can play this video game is fair grounds for comparison. It's not a contest or a console war, but it is my money and I want to be sure my money is spent on a good version of the game. Or better yet, a version of the game that is better than its original version.

[@Zezinizzle]

What? The switch is near identical with 360/PS3 in terms of hardware

[@jackofalltrades3011]

For PS4 to take advantage of FSR2 is pretty amazing. Thanks to AMD for not locking that feature!

[@SHGames97]

This is a special release, I've wanted a full open world AAA game on the Switch since launch. Early LA Noir was amazing I will say. Having RDR1 bringing the RAGE engine to the Switch makes me hopeful one day we may see GTA 4/5

[@alexandrebelair4360]

Like Zelda, Skyrim and a couple of others?

[@wade_says]

So cool to have this masterpiece on the go!

[@Riyakuya]

Gee, a game built for 2005 era hardware running better on newer hardware. What a shocker! Given the difference (upgrade) in technology, I expected at least 60fps. But then again we all know this is just a lazy cash grab.

[@PickeringSamuel]

Been really impressed by this on my Switch in handheld mode. Can Alex compare the emulated Switch version now? 😁

[@minbari73]

It's the same, but at 2 or 4k @ 60fps with no messing around.

[@mullinsjm1]

I just bought a series X about a month ago, and forgot that I had bought rdr on 360. I didn’t know they had upscaled the resolution until recently. Might try to play through it soon.

[@bmx7596]

To be fair, the ps4 isn't being pushed and the switch is at its limits. PS4 could easily run the game at 60fps at switch settings. they didn't even try, even the ps5 doesn't run it at 60fps

[@lightdarksoul2097]

I don't think thats the point

[@alfiehicks1]

Interestingly, the button glyphs appear to retain the artistic style of the original Xbox 360 version, whereas on the PS4 version they were simplified to more generic button icons.

[@Honest_Grifter]

The multiplayer is a big sticking point for me... not that i NEED another multiplayer game, but just that it seems silly to lose functionality as we enter the future... i always thought we would make games BETTER, not mostly comprable/slightly downgraded....

[@DP12321]

​@@-pressxtostart-Well, The Last of Us Remastered PS4 kept the multiplayer, it was just Last of Us PS5 that removed it (and was more expensive).

[@Hazemann]

Totally worth $50. This is polish 30fps 720p handheld AAA 3rd party 3rd person open world game for Switch. Miles better than Witcher 3 Switch ❤

[@AlexAnteroLammikko]

Im glad this exists. Yes, overpriced. That said, it runs well, its portable now (Steam Deck would be the only other way to do that realistically), the game was and still is a masterpiece, and it will be on sale eventually so other people can buy it. It existing is good.

[@adriaanjooste1908]

I got the original physical copy last week. I've been playing the game on my crt tv and it smooths out the 30frames per second. Shimmering etc. I truly believe the ps3 was still meant for the old tv's.

[@thenintendoman]

I’m still completely bummed that Microsoft never enabled FPS boost on this game

[@mullinsjm1]

Yeah I just got a series x about a month ago. I had forgotten that I bought this on 360 digitally and was surprised that it was upscaled, but saddened it was locked at 30 fps.

[@milt88]

doesnt 60fps create weird quirks in this game like its frame rate is tacked to some physics

[@mullinsjm1]

@@milt88 not sure.

[@IgorBozoki1989]

On Ryujinx emulator runs even better. On 5900x and gtx 1080 ti 4k locked 64 fps never goes below 60fps

[@KitFisto.66]

Picking this up for switch when the physical release happens in October

[@M1A1.]

​@Emma_madisonprobably buying it on sale for 15$ lol

[@KitFisto.66]

Well the enhancements are miniscule but they're there and the portability is a plus for me and I own it for my xbox series x already btw

[@andresarias3178]

Man, I'm hoping for a MAD MAX port after playing this on the Switch. It looks awesome handheld.

[@JamesNGames]

Red Dead Redemption on the Nintendo Switch is an amazing game with stunning graphics and captivating gameplay. However, the price could be a bit steep for some players. It would be great if the developers could consider a slight price reduction, making this incredible experience more accessible to a wider audience. Here's hoping for a little redemption in the form of a more affordable price tag!

[@Al3ksandrOrlov]

I really don't think the graphics are stunning, it looks like a 2010 game

[@JamesNGames]

@@Al3ksandrOrlov While it's true that Red Dead Redemption was originally released in 2010, it's important to note that the game was groundbreaking for its time and received numerous accolades for its stunning graphics and immersive gameplay. The fact that it can now be enjoyed on the Nintendo Switch is a testament to its enduring popularity and the ability to bring such a visually captivating experience to a handheld console. Moreover, the Nintendo Switch version of Red Dead Redemption offers several enhancements, including improved textures and performance optimizations, which make the game even more enjoyable. It's fantastic to see a game from a decade ago being brought to a portable platform without compromising its overall quality.

[@herczegmarton9972]

@@JamesNGames Is this AI

[@JamesNGames]

@@herczegmarton9972 AI? Nah, I'm just a friendly NPC in the grand adventure of life. No coding or artificial intelligence here, just good ol' human.

[@micsunday14]

Haven't played this since original release. 14 years is just the right amount of time. Plus it flows a sequel to rdr2 now. Just awesome to play it on the switch oled. Hardcore mode is actually intense

[@MarcoLoves360gamer]

for the ones that dont know a homebrew switch can easily run the game at 60 fps

[@regisk]

We all know it. He talks about it in the video.

[@MarcoLoves360gamer]

@@regisk he said its not a full 60. I get full 60 on mine

[@xtr.7662]

overclocked

[@fightnight14]

RDR1 for Switch in 2023. RDR2 for Switch 2 in 2024. Can't wait!

[@braedonlock3359]

This was obviously just a cash grab by Rockstar. But on switch that’s actually a decent port. 1080p 30 on a system you could never play it before. Maybe if it was $20 id say it was actually a good port for Switch. Introducing a masterpiece to a big group that could never play it before.

[@cynicaltruth7486]

$39 is more realistic. You brokies

[@adamdavis1737]

​@@cynicaltruth7486realistic expectations of price still don't necessarily dictate that the value is equal to the price Nor does not wanting to pay nearly full price for a 13-year-old game imply that somebody is broke. If anything it's people being more fiscally responsible, the key to avoid being broke

[@timytimeerased]

cash grab but also polished. People will scream cash grab about anythin dont they

[@braedonlock3359]

@@adamdavis1737 ignore him lol, anyone who’s calling someone a brokie over the internets life is already bad enough. And im sure he’s definitely very wealthy. 😂

[@EmilEn]

Great video Thomas, great editing. Keep it up, love you English voice accent

[@ALZY1989]

There are small differences everywhere like the grandma her hat casting shadow accurately Vs Xbox and many others that people miss because it's a small difference normally you won't notice even some textures have more detail like sheriff building in armadillo having the upper wall being dirty while in Xbox is mostly white they did a great job it's not a lazy port

[@connorknight7202]

If Red Dead Redemption can be ported to the Switch, than GTA 5 could probably be ported too. If Rockstar doesn't do that, then they're missing out on a huge opportunity.

[@matthewbown1072]

I loved Red Dead Redemption when it first released, I've put in nearly seven hours since Friday on the Switch version. I love it even more , I think it looks great . I had a nice amount off point's saved up as well , that knocked nearly £10 off

[@pavelshiklomanov7499]

I don’t understand the point of comparing the Switch to the PS4. The whole point is to play on the go. Comparing graphics just seems silly, doesn’t it? One system is consuming 145W perpetually stuck to the wall, the other maxes out at 8W and runs on battery so you can take it anywhere. I would sincerely HOPE the PS4 would outperform. What’s the actual point? P.S. unless the point is to highlight how the PS4 version could clearly use and handle more of an upgrade.

[@ThisisCitrus]

Because both are video game consoles which have a port of the same game. Is this an actual question?

[@lukejuke4611]

lod is clearly improved on the switch, in your own lod section the buildings have transitioned to a higher quality lod the flag on the red building to the left is completely formed at 4:46 but yet to appear on the xbox 360, plus you buried the massively better load times

[@rvalent9366]

to me the thing is if the switch can run this game while the 360 barelly could devs should port as many ps360 games to switch as possible no need for much enhancement beside resolution they are just good games, and everyone would be thankful, new gamers with actual good games (ahem the last hope), nintendo same reason, and us veterans, happy to see more people enjoy classics

[@he666da]

That's what I thought the moment people confirmed RDR1 runs stable. Hell, playing classics like Saints Row 2 or Fallout 3 would be bonkers.

[@joshooahh]

The fact you can even play red dead 1 on a mobile device is insane, mad how quick technology is moving. Didn't feel that long ago when i booted it up on my 360 for the first time... wow

[@Cinemaphile7783]

Looks even better on the Series X

[@Gwilherm]

@@Cinemaphile7783 irrelevant

[@tonyoverstill7587]

How is 13 yrs quick technology mate?

[@Cinemaphile7783]

@@Gwilherm The Switch is irrelevant

[@zultriova89]

​@@tonyoverstill7587usually back in 2000, I never thou we can get console game on portable one day.. thats what he mean how technology change just in span of 10 years..

[@prod-NC-17]

I'm mostly interested in how it might be to emulate this Switch version; theoretically it would be the easiest to emulate, or at least easier to emulate than PS3 and truly make playing this game at 60fps accessible

[@_n8thagr8_63]

I will say, I'm very curious what the next Nintendo console will have hardware-wise. If they stick with Nvidia, i wonder if we'll see DlSS and framegen utilized. Could allow it to really punch up

[@Lucky_9705]

We need better framerate for sure

[@Dakobra_]

I highly doubt the switch successor will have frame-gen, but I'm almost certain it'll have DLSS. However, whether Nintendo themselves will use DLSS in their own games is another question since they're usually allergic to any form of anti-aliasing.

[@fenixa2z936]

Switch 2 or whatever it’ll be called has to at least allow for 1080p 60fps handheld and 1440p 60fps docked. At least something comparable or slightly more powerful than an Xbox Series S.

[@Dakobra_]

@@fenixa2z936 honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the handheld still has a 720p screen

[@Deliveredmean42]

Even if the Switch 2 came out Rockstart or Take 2 will still make this a lazy port I am afraid.