DISCIPLINE EXPERT: Do THIS To Grow FASTER Than Anything Else | Ryan Holiday X Rich Roll Podcast

[@jgfraser]

One of my favorite authors and thinkers with one of the best podcasters on the planet. This is a great episode.

[@Drew9504sdlfkj]

Rich, it’d be great to get an episode with the sole focus of updating us on your current training/recovery. How is your back? How has your nutrition changed? What is your new physical ‘normal’? For us OG subscribers, we’d love an update! It’s a huge part of your story.

[@jorgeromera3861]

I second the petition

[@jithenin]

Thank you RICH for this conversation with RYAN ❤👍

[@AmandaMobbs]

Marcus Aurelius has a sense of awe and wonder about nature and the world we live in "“Dwell on the beauty of life. Watch the stars, and see yourself running with them.”

[@mariannewolf57]

I remember Ryan being on a while ago - he is brilliant. Thank you Rich! Best from Austria 💚

[@RE71476AD]

Also, thanks to Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, etc who were the original thinkers.

[@IsitReallyrealreally]

‘When we talk about justice, obviously’ - for all🥁

[@leahculberson3665]

Thank you, both. Two great minds.

[@j.phinnaeusmorgan7125]

Drop The Mic! Thank you Rich & Ryan

[@Golgibaby]

Mahalo for the real talk and civil conversation to help articulate, describe, express, and eventually identify for ourselves these complex feelings, ideas, phenomenon that are indeed...disturbing to realize when we finally see it. An appreciative fan of you both!

[@TheStoicBeacon-TGG]

It's so true how difficult it can be to confront these complex feelings once we start to understand them. Its almost like breaking through a fog to see things clearly for the first time. Have you found any specific practices or habits that help you stay grounded when those realizations hit?

[@catsteinhilb2880]

When my son was about eight and he first learned about Martin Luther King he was very inspired and he thought he would like to change the world by getting everyone to quit smoking he said but “I don’t want to get shot“ that was so sad. We had a lot of discussions thereafter

[@JesseMadigan]

Great thoughts from a great student who has a great teacher. Gained a lot of insights. Self mastery is a lifelong game. If you are still breathing you got work to do! 😉

[@TheStoicBeacon-TGG]

I completely agree, self-mastery really is a lifelong journey. It's inspiring to see how much growth is possible when we commit to it. I'm curious, what do you think is the most important step to take when we're feeling stuck or like progress is slow? How do you get back on track?

[@JesseMadigan]

@ When I get stuck and fall of the tracks, I always take inspiration from Marcus Aurelius and retreat within to reflect, reset and realign my intentions.

[@lyndelcrause3232]

Brilliant! Thank you for doing podcasts that matter and makes the world a better place.

[@GraceRose-us6jb]

Thank you so much to both of you! This is great!

[@oldmanaaron]

Always good with Ryan but this one I really enjoyed! Thanks Rich and Ryan!

[@kai-hv6nx]

That point about effecting change hit... its like the modern day equality movements. You have tiny groups of individuals manufacturing things like modern day racism and sexism by disguising them as systematic issues that appeal more to persuasion there for creating the system representing those individual issues

[@sebastianvega3503]

Thanks Rich for calling out the cruelty and the immorality of Animal Agriculture. ❤ 56:00

[@TheStoicBeacon-TGG]

Loved this perspective! How about starting a Q&A series on practical Stoicism?

[@TheStoicBeacon-TGG]

This was eye-opening! Could you explore the relationship between Stoicism and the modern concept of resilience in a future video?

[@brookes1911]

Oooo...excited about this one. Love Ryan!

[@Stephen-Montefinese]

36:04 You hit the nail squarely on the fkn head, Ryan. I came to that conclusion a year ago. It has always been a part of the American psyche, however, since the 80s, many prominent politicians have fanned the flames of that political and cultural philosophy. The result is where we are today. One of the reasons why the social support system has been successful in countries like Finland, Sweden and Norway is due to the fact that a strong sense of community has been part of the national consciousness for centuries. It will take generations to undo the damage done to the American soul over the past 30-40 years.

[@eltonfields3357]

Twelve traditions comes into play

[@sofiacarral1409]

I love you!!! I can’t believe you were actually bold enough to mention factory farming!! Omg the denial in the society we live in! Everything you guys have said is amazing and I’m so grateful for your knowledge

[@HansSprungfeld716]

Very cool, thank you Rich

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

I wanna see Rich interview Ryan's mentor, Robert Greene

[@abdelazizboudiaf3061]

Daaaam, i was thinking exactly the same thing 😊

[@TheStoicBeacon-TGG]

Really grateful for this video! Could you create content focusing on Seneca’s letters and their relevance today?

[@TheStoicBeacon-TGG]

I completely agree with you! Senecas letters offer timeless wisdom that could be incredibly relevant to our modern lives, especially when it comes to the idea of self-discipline. His insights on managing our emotions and thoughts are so powerful. Have you read any particular letter from him that stood out to you? I think diving deeper into his letters could provide some real clarity on how we approach challenges today.

[@teddy337-s4v]

I've come to learn how important obligations are... In all aspects. Naivete seems to be quite common because there seems to be a lack of consequence, but that might be a bit of my cynicism 😂 we have made irony important in the meaning of ridicule

[@MaksimKogan]

I've been following Rich's channel for years now. It's been exciting and inspirational to listen to his guests, to his puns with Adam or even his monologues :) But recently something has changed - I am not able to finish listening to almost any of the interviews. I think for me, the learning element has disappeared. As if previously Rich was trying to grasp something new himself and using his skills to extract and form that idea from the guests; but now it's just Rich trying to say something instead of the guests... and it results in all sounding the same. Maybe it's time to level up the game and do more complex things? Or maybe I just need to switch the channel myself 🙂 Just reflecting here.

[@TheStoicBeacon-TGG]

An excellent breakdown of Seneca’s philosophy! What are your thoughts on his letters as a practical guide for overcoming adversity?

[@FiberFairy22]

The guy actually just said "I don't want to hold myself up to someone who is always making great moral decisions"! Wtheck!!!

[@carolgerber6375]

Love this guy!! ❤❤

[@chrisrubio8212]

The objective is not to signal virtue, it’s to embody virtue. The cause of the pejorative connotation around “virtue signaling,” and “social justice warriors” is the hypocrisy. Accountability is a standard you hold yourself to. And nobody’s perfect, but if you flagrantly disregard the standard you hold others to, people will naturally have a negative reaction to that.

[@Justin._Trudeau]

Hell yeah cant Wait

[@izzysayshoi]

Justice is what the Bible called righteousness

[@JohnGeranien]

The problem with stoicism is that under the duality of capitalism and spin-politics, stoicism is usually ‘shut-up-and-grind’.

[@akshaybhaga5047]

Big fan of yall both😂

[@FitCoachJeremy]

Perfectly timed podcast! I JUST bought THE OBSTACLE IS THE WAY yesterday

[@RE71476AD]

Meditations too?

[@BatshitVashti]

Keeping your word means I will keep God’s word and the living word, the Bible. I will not reject those things that are true. We put too much weight on ourselves, as Christians. A christian perspective.

[@ChildofGod98765]

Lord, I pray that you would give me the strength. I know that being a single parent is not always easy, but with your help, I am confident that I can do it. I also ask for your help in providing for my sons emotionally, and physically. Lord I struggle every month to provide for my sons. I’m overwhelmed. Give me strength. Thank you Heavenly father for your grace and loving tender care, and for always being there for me and my children.❤️💕

[@deeproutes9637]

I like to use the water bottle analogy.. hold a water bottle in front of you. The water bottle represents the truth of all things; human nature, the universe, life, ect. Me, the person holding the water bottle represents the observer or point of perception. Now find someone to be a second observer and ask them to describe the water bottle in the greatest detail possible. And I'll do the same.. although looking at the same water bottle we each have a completely different perspective. We are both right and wrong about the truth of the matter. (Pun intended) Philosophies and religions strive for the truth. Some believe their perspective is closer to the truth. And it may be, but It's our responsibility to continue expanding our awareness and perception to see the bigger picture. Continue observing and we will see that there is truth in all of them. And they are all there to help us 'BE', better.

[@Sóumit-q6z]

Plz podcast on OCD

[@Nancysoulshine]

I think Andrew Huberman has a good podcast on that subject.

[@Sóumit-q6z]

@@Nancysoulshine I've seen it...but I want to see a specialised guest on that topic

[@richroll]

See my podcast with Brad Stulberg on this topic

[@JesseNickelltheFourth]

Two great minds! 🙏

[@JesseNickelltheFourth]

"If all you're thinking about is this endless self improvement, self optimization, I think that's kind of empty. (You gotta think about helping others too.)" - Ryan Holiday

[@JesseNickelltheFourth]

Rich, The writer Ethan Nichtern would be a really suitable guest for your show. Jesse

[@Ngo-bw5nj]

Perfect match.Thank you 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼

[@TheStoicBeacon-TGG]

Here’s a suggested comment for the video: "I totally agree with you, it really does seem like the perfect match! Ryan and Rich always bring out such deep insights on discipline and growth. I'm curious, have you found any specific habit or routine that’s helped you apply these principles in your own life? Would love to hear what’s worked for you!"

[@rfreeze]

Regarding the issue, wherein, individuals are quick to say someone is “virtue signaling” - also important to point out the individuals on the right in particular - utilize that - some wittingly some unwittingly - as a strawman to undermine/not deal with, deny, what are very real issues.

[@madhursharma1441]

This episode goes deep in great discipline advice. How many of you would be happy if you have the detailed notes of the podcast so that after listening this podcast you can have and read the important stuff in 10 mins anytime you want. Let me know your response.

[@megm.c4026]

Arundhati Roy doesnt like Ghandi and thinks he was a hugely flawed person And he wasnt the first to use passive resistance. Te Whiti O Rongomai for one led a passive resistance movement at Parihaka In New Zealand. And there were others globally also I believe.

[@no_one514]

10:51am 10-24-24 THUR

[@qow2427]

So wise yet so clueless

[@prateeknegi07]

Stoicism is good but Bhagwad Gita is the real OG of philosophy.

[@OnTheRoadToBetter]

The problem with censorship is not with restricting “bad” or “harmful” speech. It’s who gets to decide and enforce the criteria for said speech. The founding fathers were wise when they wrote our constitution. Don’t fuck with it lol

[@aryanchaudhary4400]

Self-tyranny is better than being controlled by society.

[@Mr.Buttermaker]

Their work is complete when self-tyranny arrives. No longer needing to tyrannize from the outside because you’re doing the work for them from the inside. Definitely not better

[@markelcj]

Listening back a second time and Ryan nailed why Democrats lost here 1:04:10

[@KeenanModica]

Keep the Torah!

[@NikeonaBike]

As Laertius wrote over 1800 years ago, "Stoics have nothing to say about happiness, in general or specific." Epicureans had it figured out in antiquity and stoics were a bit of a joke, considered by most to be hypocrites more concerned with "appearing stoic" for the sake of self-aggrandizement. Little has changed. It's sad that such an empty school of philosophy had such a resurgence, and the irony is that it had a resurgence because Stoicism tells its followers that they are tougher or stronger than others and there is an appeal to being told that. "Ego is the enemy." Indeed.

[@incurableromantic4006]

"Stoicism tells its followers that they are tougher or stronger than others" Really? I'm rather a fan of stoicism, and it always seemed to me to make a cardinal virtue of humility. Could you give me some examples of where stoisicm tells its followers to look down on others?

[@NikeonaBike]

@@incurableromantic4006 Ofcourse it doesn't tell them to do so explicitly, no more than Christianity tells its faithful to judge sinners, and yet the world is so. But when your core philosophy is about building up an outer wall, about tolerating the intolerable, and accepting suffering, it isn't long before the practitioner feels to have risen above the rest of humanity, regardless of how many admonitions for humility are included. This is self-evident with the modern popularity of Stoicism. It tells its practitioner they are strong and strong willed, and is thus attractive to those who want that trait or want others to believe they possess it. Wearing stoicism on your sleeve is, after all, quite popular and profitable in the 21st century.

[@incurableromantic4006]

@@NikeonaBike Well, any moral or philosophical movement that becomes popular enough will inevitably attract some people to it for negative reasons - but that's a problem with human nature, not with the movement itself.

[@user-tv6zz1vm3x]

@@NikeonaBikeI disagreed with your initial comment, but this is an interesting rebuttal. You have put some valuable insight here. Thank you

[@winkingfox7125]

I disagree with you there. I think you made a totally surface mischaracterization of the stoic school. They speak a lot about happiness, however sometimes (fairly or not) criticize the epicureans for seeking a shallow personal happiness in physical comfort (the stoics were big on being involved in one’s community through public service ), a selfish happiness, by avoiding all potential sources of disturbance ( such as marrying and raising a family) . The stoics talked a lot dealing with anxiety and uncertainty , clear impediments to happiness. “When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive-to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.” Marcus Aurelius. Seneca said “True happiness is... to enjoy the present, without anxious dependence upon the future.” Zeno said man’s work was the practice of virtues, which alone produces happiness. So yeah just a little bit there just to counter your characterization of the stoic school, which I think is not at all accurate .

[@DrProgNerd]

"Social Justice Warrior" is a slur ...yes.... *but* ...."Make America Great Again" has also become a slur. Both positive intentions have become weapons to use against 'the other guy'.

[@anthonyfox477]

The difference is that MAGA is a dog whistle for straight white men. Who are we making America great again for? The heyday of the US (1950s) was an objectively worse time to be a woman, LGBTQIA and/or BIPOC in this county.

[@maximetouze9669]

Love the podcast but don’t copy DOAC’s tittles I know this podcast grows fast but it also makes you cringe whenever you click on it(just my opinion)

[@lyaloka23]

❤

[@EricFuentes-c5r]

Haha En Miami eso no aplica

[@OnekamaProducts]

I vote Ryan Holiday should pivot into translating Alan Watts’s work. He has milked the stoic cow long enough.

[@jackmartin1225]

RR is the king and I LOVE most of his conversations, however I must admit Ryan sends me to sleep.. as much as I have previously attempted to listen to and embrace his worldview. Zzz

[@kin.9133]

54:40 pausing to say: vegans

[@Jeff-312]

First!

[@saltandpepperandmint]

And? How old are you?

[@minhxluong]

108

[@carl2330]

Tell me you’re pro-censorship without saying you’re pro-censorship. More stoicism and less liberal talking points please.

[@BrianLovesBeans]

When is Ryan Holiday going to go vegan? So many times I listen to his podcasts, read his books, and think he's got all the ethical framework and personal skills set to go vegan. Especially in a conversation about justice & personal discipline I was hoping this would come up...Rich had the opportunity but didn't ask the question or Ryan's insight on the matter.

[@melissazwieg2988]

💙💙💙💙💙🥇

[@anthonyfox477]

Specific mention on the importance of not platforming dubious guests on podcasts, yet no mention of Sam Harris on RRP? Truly heinous opinions on Gaza/Israel.

[@cathyweiss5347]

I would like to hear you both frame all these questions with Christianity. Open a bible and find answers.

[@aimtcb]

....people choose to do stoasim when the algorithm recommends it 😂😂😂😂😂

[@maat]

Too bad nobody ever confronts Ryan about his pro-vax mandate philosophy

[@stevenfranklin4675]

Wow a silver platter telling another silver platter how to stay shinny. Can we get some Goggins to cleanse ourselves.

[@Clyde.artwork]

If these two dudes don't understand why virtue signaling is a slur, they're high on their own supply and totally out of touch

[@Den-c5d]

lots of mutual fellatio..

[@frankgaudioso5749]

I love stoicism, but I wish Ryan would not push his political views in his work so much. Read the examples he uses in his books closely and you will get a clear sense of his political views.

[@Simone79126]

I feel the same way.

[@choanlpoto]

When you pursue vertue and fight evil it's hard to support Democrat

[@holisticallyme556]

Couldn’t agree more

[@evilmcbooty7317]

If doing the right thing, the righteous thing in the civilized thing is pushing politics, you may want to consider the politics that you subscribe to.

[@jenniferevers4500]

Maybe it’s your politics that’s the problem. They don’t align with stoic values.

[@RE71476AD]

So much of today's 'life advice' is just a re hash of old ideas put into modern words. Not just this but the majority of podcasts. There are many watching but very few are actually using the advice in their lives. Such a waste of time while also getting these people richer than you.

[@edward9099]

This dude is a liberal 🤡

[@markjohnson95659]

Its all crap How can this guy without experiencing real life coach us silly fools All bullshit People do not need podcast like this to grow or change its all about what is within us

[@mariannewolf57]

Hmmm... having a really bad day, huh?

[@GeorgeSmiley2023]

Read the original books, letters from a stoic is my favourite, this guy is just a salesman.

[@RE71476AD]

Agreed. People know what they must do, but it is just hard and uncomfortable to do it. So they watch stuff like this because it feels like they are making progress....when in fact they aren't. I know because I have been doing this for 6 months now, and have realised that all this so called knowledge is just a re hash of ancient thinking. Platitudes, nothing more. Similarly for Modern Wisdom podcast. People need to get outside and live again.

[@freebiebean9986]

Neither of these guys are actual Stoics lol 😂

[@basilharrison3071]

19 views in 3 min? Bro fell off…

[@fundamonium]

93 in 5

[@kirkthedayman]

You use the term “bro” like an 11 year old

[@Zenith-d3s]

mainstream stuff about self-improvement are so overrated.The best investment you can make is in yourself. Books are the ultimate learning tool. Reading Bruce Thornwood's Unveiling your hidden potential helped me build discipline and separate my mindset from 90% of other people

[@priscillanielsen555]

So... if the info in the books went 'Mainstream'... it would stop being valuable?

[@SpectralEQ]

For how long..