Disneyland's Future Begins NOW!

[@OffhandDisney]

What do we call Disneyland Forward now? Disneyland Kind of in the Future? Disneyland Currently in Planning? ALSO, would anybody REALLY watch a 4 hour long PeopleMover video???

[@gameyfirebro9645]

It'd be funny...

[@writerpatrick]

Disneyland Coming Attractions. Coming Soon To Disneyland. Disneyland Plus.

[@RustyShock]

Disneyland Now or Disneyland Today.

[@Gummiistics]

4 hr People Mover vid you say? 👀

[@relemblade]

I would watch 4 1 hours segments of a people mover video.

[@MattMcIrvin]

You can't imagine the size of the churro stand they're going to build.

[@imaginefun13]

I want a shop that purely sells various specialty churros. But I know they like placing their seasonal churros around the park to avoid traffic congestion and keep people moving.

[@hazeldavis3176]

Wait till you see the gift shop to the churro stand!!!

[@comettamer]

Ikr. Gonna be insane.

[@PleeseCallMeDan]

All the other space will just be the line to it.

[@todayisanewday7]

Saw that. Disney world had the churro $7 each

[@jetsons101]

The city of Anaheim should have made "Re-Opening The Peoplemover" a requirement for approval of Disneyland Forward.............

[@redtiger7268]

We all wish but the Rocket Rods destroyed the track. How about they re-build the PeopleMover with a new track that not only goes over tomorrow land but make it a transport service between Tomorrowland, Fantasy and ToonTown?

[@jetsons101]

@@redtiger7268 Curse the Rocket Rods.

[@UmmYeahOk]

@@redtiger7268well, the theory is that they would remove the track completely, or leave it as is, while at the same time, build a People Mover 2.0, which would actually function as it was originally designed. It would move people from the eastern gateway project to one of the two parks, possibly even to a third, whatever is supposed to end up at the Toy Story Lot. The peoplemover would actually be a form of transportation, not just some ride.

[@nosrePnamuH]

@@redtiger7268the real reason is asbestos. The buildings are made out of it and carving into them to widen it for ADA laws would expose the workers to it plus the whole building housing the rides would no longer be up to code

[@TBustah]

Why? How would that benefit Anaheim?

[@shanerulez79]

He keeps saying BlueSky yet I haven't seen a single Ice Age attraction.

[@OffhandDisney]

"Sid's Dandelion Adventure"

[@larrymantic2635]

@@OffhandDisneyof course they’d use the word “Adventure”

[@Derpymuffins333]

I know this probably won’t ever happen but I would love a villain area. People love Disney villains and there are so many iconic villains to choose from. It would be amazing to have something for the villains that isn’t only around Halloween. And Disney has to know just how popular the villains are

[@nandoginkaku7610]

Oogie boogie bash sells, so that may not happen. Same goes for many of their ticketed events. They sell out, so who knows if they may even consider that at all

[@briansmoviesandmadness7415]

A devoted villain ride would be great, something long and immersive like pirates/mansion/etc. It would be best in fantasy land obviously but why not just have a darkened corner, mysterious but ok out of the way, one can dream right

[@alliekuma4234]

There are talks of a Villain land coming to one of the parks but that doesn't seem set in stone yet. I agree that it would be amazing though. ♥️ I'd love to go on rides themed around the villains.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@alliekuma4234 it's potentially coming to mk in wdw. I hope it gets built! I would love a villains land there!

[@ConnorCampbell-ch5mk]

We can only hope that the transportation around Disneyland forward is a people mover

[@chriswebb3709]

skyway gets my vote too - open up the matterhorn

[@ConnorCampbell-ch5mk]

@24kgoldplatedvermeil I’m open to the skyway, but I’d prefer the peoplemover

[@jusjetz]

Why not both the Skyway and People mover.

[@ConnorCampbell-ch5mk]

@@jusjetz that’s a good solution

[@lonelysatoshi2482]

Why not open a skyway with peoplemover wagons, jk

[@kidsruntheshow3752]

Just add the Living With the Land World, Trust me Disney it’ll be Huge

[@ryanbates9136]

brb breaking my Genie+ don't-buy-it rule for this

[@torroloco95]

It would fit so well here in California too with so much Ag here that would Be cool

[@pibbitybibbity]

It took Disneyworld SIX YEARS to build the TRON ride, including pandemic delays. ONE RIDE. In that same six years, again including pandemic delays, Universal built an entire theme park and began planning a small Texas park and another entire park in England. When Disney announced this plan, they stated it was a “forty year plan.” Anyone familiar with how glacially slow Disney moves knows this means 70-80 years. They haven’t even started on the Marvel E-ticket ride, haven’t even mentioned it in several years. Meanwhile, the Marvel universe is slowly dwindling in popularity due to over-saturation. Their sole focus right now appears to be Avatar, IP built on a 15-year-old movie with a recent moderately successful sequel. Universal is still affordable for regular families even with price increases, while Disney continues to price itself as an elitist destination. Walt’s original dream is dead and long gone.

[@dayoldbread1696]

They did mention the avengers e ticket at last years d23, showing off the concept art for the ride vehicle. Hopefully after Tiana’s they will start on it, but knowing Disney they’ll be stupid and start on the avatar stuff first most likely. At this years d23 they’ll probably announce more about the e ticket but that’s most likely the only announcement for us at Disneyland that we will get, everything else will be for wdw. But definitely well said! I agree with everything you said and I’m skeptical of everything Disney is going to build. Because like you said they are extremely slow with building things now, they constantly budget cut things multiple times leading to lackluster results, and they mainly care about merchandise sales while building lackluster rides like web slingers.

[@MotionGoing]

Yeah these disney fanboys still haven’t learned what type of company disney is

[@goodmemesinmyjeans9715]

AMEN BROTHER!!! Disney has not and will not be able to keep up with competing parks if they keep up their “eh whatever, we’re Disney, people will eat up our slop anyways” philosophy. And knowing Disney, they will not lol

[@hollybabyyy]

Except universal can sometimes have more expensive entry tickets and more expensive food

[@pibbitybibbity]

@@hollybabyyy More expensive than Disney?! In what dimension/universe?

[@rapunzel1701]

$1 says they'll build the Eastern Gateway parking lot, then make the 'difficult decision' to delay further expansion because 'challenges'.

[@NinthShinigami]

@ryan-uk6jf yup

[@TheFrostFilesPodcast]

@ryan-uk6jfwhile they were building a new theme park

[@sarahgattis3964]

@ryan-uk6jf they were also dealing with covid issues and they had to create a new space for the train.. wasn’t just building it but it did take a while and is only like 45 seconds

[@AppleGaming4Real]

@ryan-uk6jf In the same time, Disney was "only building" Star Wars Land, Toy Story Land, Mickey and Minnie's, Guardians, Remy's, trying to figure out wtf to do with Epcot. But go off. Not to mention their biggest rival was in the middle of gathering companies for their newest theme park + COVID happened

[@djguillyd]

@ryan-uk6jfyou act like a whole pandemic didn’t happen

[@pinklemonegg]

"IT'S MONDAY" bro you made me check and see if I was supposed to be working rn

[@ryanbates9136]

As an ex-CM, two things: - My first instinct, knowing what I know from experience, tells me those buildings to the east that you called "bungalows," I think will be small, semi-permanent or permanent, festival buildings. I don't think Disney ever expected Festivals to become such a valued thing/division, and really would like to get it out of the DCA parade route and into its own home, while nestling it in an area where Fest of Holidays, DCA F&W, Lunar New Year, and more would funnel more shopping and dining dollars to retail and restaurants. - As an ex-CM who spent most of my time within hotels (DLH & GCH both lodging and F&B), YOU may think Disney is obsessed with parking lots, but from our perspective, if they take Simba from us I PROMISE YOU they have not had the first think about where Hotel-based CMs are going to park. Watch as they tell CMs basically to find some street parking in Garden Grove and hoof it the rest of the way and BY GOD DON'T YOU BE MORE THAN ONE MINUTE LATE or else it's 22,053 points on your record. 😡😡😡

[@sketchyAnalogies]

Sounds like Disney... Working at Knott's was great. Park in western lot, 3 minute walk and you are clocked in and off to your shift

[@GangaKris]

I don't think the Monorail would be an issue with Avatar. Not only did they talk about rerouting it in the past, but an article I read titled "End of the Line for Las Vegas Monorail" talked about how if Disney wanted new monorail trains they had to build a new track because the company no longer makes monorails. Why not get a jump on the inevitable while they are spending money?

[@anycast22]

As a former Californian who went to Disneyland a lot it makes me happy to see them finally expanding and exploring new ways to provide Disney Magic

[@rchiggins2930]

I wouldn't be surprised if Disney turns the Toy Story parking lot into a "water theme park" a la Universal's Volcano Bay. SoCal gets hot during the summer and Disneyland currently lacks a water park.

[@rb8058]

City Council learned its lesson from the Galactic Cruiser experience. Anaheim and Disney are joined at the hip. That Faustian deal was struck in 1955 and the fortunes of one impacts the other.

[@averyeml]

The only way you’re getting Fantasy Springs at DCA is if the parks drag their feet on building for SO ABSURDLY LONG that they somehow wait out whatever no-cloning clause they have built in. Hong Kong’s frozen land is GORGEOUS (just got back from it a little over a week ago), but it’s very small and the Oaken ride is boring even as a kiddy coaster. If they do make an Arrendelle in DCA, they need to expand on it for American audiences.

[@dayoldbread1696]

They need to start on the avengers e ticket they have been promising us for 4+ years

[@princess_niya2407]

@@dayoldbread1696Fantasy Springs won’t come to DCA or any Disney park in the US cause that is an exclusive to that park, same thing with Hong Kong and any Disney parks outside of the US

[@dayoldbread1696]

@@princess_niya2407 I didn’t mean fantasy springs, I’m talking about the avengers e ticket ride they promised us for California adventure

[@thatsillyredhead]

I recently started working as a permit expeditor for a sign company and holy cow can confirm doing and districts can change everything about what can and can’t be done for the location it’s the necessary first step to lots of changes

[@tulinfirenze1990]

I hope your "permit expediting" (whatever that is) is better than your ability to write in English because I have NO idea what you're saying there.

[@ghoulannabanana]

@@tulinfirenze1990 "zoning" is the key typo there and a lack of punctuation. "...can confirm zoning and districts can change what can and can't be done for the location; it's the necessary first step to lots of changes" I understood it just fine but i can see how you missed it. There's no need to be an ass and bully her lol

[@chrismcdowell7138]

The new land needs an independent attraction, devoted to Nightmare Before Christmas. This way we can have Haunted Mansion, for the full year. And we can have NBC for a full year. No longer the lengthy shutdowns, for switching the overlays.

[@chrismcdowell7138]

@DanielRichardson-dt4xm - Talk about complaining, you want to introduce the same problem that Disneyland has? Shut down Magic Kingdom’s Haunted Mansion because you’re need to see NBC? As much as I like NBC, don’t need MK’s Haunted Mansion seasonal shutdown, for whatever length of time, just to make you a happy camper. How about placing NBC in HollyWood Studios?

[@ryan24a73]

No problem with jack skellington taking over haunted mansion every Halloween and holiday season it's cool but a theme land based off this film sounds cool

[@rudolph_ci]

I can’t help but laugh every time The People Mover somehow gets inserted somewhere 🤣

[@Dovaz921]

I live in those apartments right next to the plan, Disneyland couldn't be any closer lmao.

[@paullewis4134]

I’m gonna find you 😊

[@candycemonroe7345]

I'm jealous

[@LL-bl8hd]

That sounds amazing. 🏰🎆

[@Dovaz921]

@@paullewis4134 please im lonely

[@imaginefun13]

Time to invest in a nice camera to take some shots of construction and sell them to bloggers lol

[@joncarlos716]

It’s ironic that Disney imagineers aren’t allowed to make non IPs rides anymore

[@MattMcIrvin]

I think the extent to which this is a change is actually exaggerated. A lot of the original Disneyland attractions we think of as non-IP were really IP; they were tie-ins with things like the Davy Crockett TV show and the True-Life Adventures nature documentaries, and the Tomorrowland and classic Epcot stuff was all promoting third-party corporate sponsors. In the 1970s or thereabouts, they were doing more stuff without an obvious tie-in, but I think part of the reason for that was that Disney just wasn't hitting a lot of home runs in the theaters at the time. It was out of necessity. They may need to have a creative dry spell with their entertainment products to really be driven to a lot of original park creation (but their many acquisitions widen the pool).

[@stanfordite1]

Well when I take over Disney and make it great again, Imagineers will only be allowed to make non IP rides if anything new. I might even close down Imagineering all together.

[@joncarlos716]

@@stanfordite1 don’t do it for yourself. Do it for America!

[@fredlopez5213]

@@MattMcIrvin The original Disneyland attractions were only loosely inspired by IP though (except for Fantasyland), to the point that they became their own original attractions and stories. It's just that Walt wanted to express his interests in the parks that he had already expressed in film, leading to some subtle overlap. Even then, Walt continued to push for major projects not tied to IP after Disneyland's opening. Pirates of the Caribbean could have been themed to Treasure Island, but it wasn't.

[@tsitracommunications2884]

IP?

[@ChandlerWithaZ]

I WANT A TANGLED RIDE 0.0

[@Mouskegamer]

I couldn't agree more that Disney is eyeing the Toy Story Lot as a third gate. The demand is overwhelming for additional parks in Anaheim and the space there is actually very similar to the amount of space in DCA currently allotted for park space (78 acres on the current lot, 65 acres in DCA's current area not including the Grand Californian). I think the biggest hurdle there is going to be the residents around the Toy Story lot given the amount of apartments directly up against it. In the meantime, I'm holding out hope for something Fantasy Springs-esque in Anaheim...

[@eevee_mon]

Plus Disney would have something to compete with epic universe

[@OGamerGirl92]

1:35 not entirely true. My great grandparents & grandparents worked for/ helped build disneyland my grandma got to go the day before opening day black Sunday. When Walt was building Disney he wanted the extra land that now encompasses galaxies edge. However at the time that family wasn't willing to sell. Family stories help a lot. In the 60s my grandpa worked for a subsidiary under WED enterprises and did the busts on the haunted mansion that follow you

[@tulinfirenze1990]

Agreed - I don't know who this young guy is but he obviously doesn't know much about Disney and its history. Walt bought what he could with what money he had. He and his brother were LITERALLY mortgaged to the hilt on Disneyland. It's not like they didn't want extra land - they just couldn't afford it.

[@gr33ngirlsea]

That's so cool that your relatives helped built Disneyland. Thank you to them and your grandpa did a fantastic job on the busts!

[@hortencia01030]

My prediction is that Disneyland Forward is going to be a big DVC play

[@StromboliTastesGood]

I believe another KZbinr I think his name is Brickey has said that the area is already zoned for timeshares. So yes this partially a DVC play

[@redtiger7268]

We already know this is the plan. Disney wanted to lot to the north of the Lion King parking lot and the old hotel that was there to build roughly 30-50 timeshare units. The prices I saw (back in 2020 pre shut downs) were a buy in of something like $250k and then each time you wanted to use a week would be anywhere from $5k-$10k. It was to cater to the ultra-rich. There were going to be extra perks like VIP line access, private tours included and such. This was all pre Genie so I have no idea what the new plans are.

[@stanfordite1]

Disneyland Forward is never going to happen.

[@redtiger7268]

@@stanfordite1 Remember when Disney closed Rainforest and were about to build another hotel there? Disney canceled the project when the hotel workers union and the city demanded pay raises and benefits.

[@hortencia01030]

@@redtiger7268 I'm thinking there will be attractions and entertainment exclusive to DVC guests. Or at the very least DVC will get exceptional access perks for these attractions. Not enough for a third gate, but to think they are just going to extend DCA and DLP without a concrete revenue stream is well just silly.

[@eabcool]

Disney: new lands and rides everywhere! also Tomorrowland refurb? what are you talking about, it's perfect!

[@Courier_333]

Disney REALLY needs to stop making entire lands based on a single IP. its so limiting

[@JasonRasmussen]

Only when Bob Iger is kicked out.

[@jetsons101]

Speaking of IP rides, two of the most popular rides at Disneyland were not IP rides -- think ""The Haunted Mansion"" and ""Pirates of the Caribbean.""

[@jokeal3613]

And Matterhorn, space mountain, big thunder mountain.

[@99lemonhd]

Disney builds a ride based on IP: HOW DARE YOU! Walt is rolling in his grave. Universal builds a WHOLE THEME PARK BASED ON IP: OMG, Disney take notes, this is how you do a theme park!

[@eevee_mon]

Well universal is using i.p. to create this grand immersive experience kinda like how Tokyo disneysea implements i.p. while Disney is just using the i.p.s' popularity to catch up with modern theme park trends

[@stanfordite1]

Disney was not built on IP unlike Universal. That's not their place and Disney needs to learn its place which it will after I take over and make it great again.

[@eevee_mon]

@@stanfordite1 that explains why they don't know how to implement it properly

[@JoshSchlottman]

I can see Disney splitting a new 3rd gate between the hotel parking lots and the Toy Story lot. It'll give enough total space for a legit 3rd gate they can charge a whole another ticket for. Then, have a Peoplemover-like attraction to connect them, like the Hogwarts Express train in Universal Orlando.

[@fredlopez5213]

My hope is that DCA's expansion focuses on the California-theme first, and the IP second. I still think the park is California-themed (and the Avatar concept art focusing on alien sea otters and seagulls makes me think it will represent California coasts), but it would be amazing to see the park start going back to its DCA 2.0 roots. Maybe this could even encourage some new non-IP attractions, since DCA barely has those compared to Disneyland.

[@tulinfirenze1990]

That's some 1999 Eisner era stretching there, to be sure!

[@lonesoul663]

As long as they keep the OG theme park intact. I'd kill for something original.

[@dis-springs]

17:18 Think a smaller version of World showcase -- only make it 2-stories tall. Innovative rides and entertainment that works in smaller but taller 2-story spaces. Outdoor and indoor waterfront restaurants and bars (Drink Around The World -- West Coast Edition!). Plus a next generation lagoon show -- visible from both floors of the entire park! Multiple shows every night. Multiple themes. 2024 projections, 3D audio, fountains, lighting, and ???. And Disney could sell *After 4pm APs* to help shrink the nighttime crowds at the other two parks and DDD. Now THAT'S a billion dollar idea that someone at Disney should steal!

[@nf1nk]

I just thought about the possibility of extending the Disneyland Railroad into Disneyland Forward. That seems like an interesting idea.

[@WalmartJedi]

I was just at Magic Kingdom riding on Tron and I really like how they hid the steam locomotives from the WDW railroad from tomorrowland by building a great big magical grey inconspicuous tunnel.

[@oceansoul316]

I don't think we're going to ever get original rides anymore, especially ones that aren't IP based, especially in the Disney owned parks. Even the companies that sponsored all of the rides to begin with aren't willing to take that risk anymore, and Disney certainly won't, unless they can spend someone else's money on it

[@stanfordite1]

Oh yes we are getting original rides again. Disney is going to fall to a hostile takeover resulting in new management that ushers in the Make Disney Great Again era.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@stanfordite1 that's never gonna happen.

[@stanfordite1]

@@kdusel1991 Oh yes it is.

[@ghoulannabanana]

@@stanfordite1 That's insane levels of copium dude even you know it, lmao. As long as Disney's making millions that's never going to happen, and especially not in any way that caters to what Disney nerds want.

[@stanfordite1]

@@ghoulannabanana No it's not. It's a prophecy and I'm speaking to you from the year 2067 as Owner of the restored Walt Disney Productions. That's right, we can speak to people in the past. Disney is not making millions under Crooked Bob and I will be undoing everything he worked for after I take over Disney and usher in the Make Disney Great Again era. What you call "Disney nerds" are the only guests who matter and the only ones welcome in the parks, not you.

[@mxstrikk]

PLEASE make a 4 hour long video on the people mover! I watch mostly long-form content at work, so that would be a dream come true!!

[@hieudo9811]

Rip to the community that lives around and provides labor for Disneyland

[@CharlieHepp]

The only way you’re getting Fantasy Springs at DCA is if the parks drag their feet on building for SO ABSURDLY LONG that they somehow wait out whatever no-cloning clause they have built-in. Hong Kong’s frozen land is GORGEOUS (just got back from it a little over a week ago), but it’s very small and the Oaken ride is boring even as a kiddy coaster. If they do make an Arrendelle in DCA, they need to expand on it for American audiences. The new land needs an independent attraction, devoted to Nightmare Before Christmas. This way we can have Haunted Mansion, for the full year. And we can have NBC for a full year. No longer the lengthy shutdowns, for switching the overlays. My prediction is that Disneyland Forward is going to be a big DVC play 25:39 NOW PLAYING Which Universal Studios Orlando Rides Will Close Next? Attraction Ideas I couldn't agree more that Disney is eyeing the Toy Story Lot as a third gate. The demand is overwhelming for additional parks in Anaheim and the space there is actually very similar to the amount of space in DCA currently allotted for park space (78 acres on the current lot, 65 acres in DCA's current area not including the Grand Californian). I think the biggest hurdle there is going to be the residents around the Toy Story lot given the amount of apartments directly up against it. In the meantime, I'm holding out hope for something Fantasy Springs-esque in Anaheim... I don't think we're going to ever get original rides anymore, especially ones that aren't IP-based, especially in the Disney-owned parks. Even the companies that sponsored all of the rides to begin with aren't willing to take that risk anymore, and Disney certainly won't, unless they can spend someone else's money on it Ironically, Disney Imagineers aren’t allowed to make non-rides anymore As long as they keep the OG theme park intact. I'd kill for something original. Only one word yelled at the top of my Lungs "Peoplemover" OK Louder "P E O P L E M O V E R"....!!! is not entirely true. My great-grandparents & grandparents worked for/ helped build Disneyland my grandma got to go the day before opening day black Sunday. When Walt was building Disney he wanted the extra land that now encompasses galaxies edge. However at the time that family wasn't willing to sell. Family stories help a lot. In the 60s my grandpa worked for a subsidiary under WED Enterprises and did the busts on the haunted mansion that follows you NOW PLAYING Introducing Universal Epic Universe It took Disneyworld SIX YEARS to build the TRON ride, including pandemic delays. ONE RIDE. In that same six years, again including pandemic delays, Universal built an entire theme park and began planning a small Texas park and another entire park in England. When Disney announced this plan, they stated it was a “forty-year plan.” Anyone familiar with how glacially slow Disney moves knows this means 70-80 years. They haven’t even started on the Marvel E-ticket ride, and haven’t even mentioned it in several years. Meanwhile, the Marvel universe is slowly dwindling in popularity due to over-saturation. Their sole focus right now appears to be Avatar, IP built on a 15-year-old movie with a recent moderately successful sequel. Universal is still affordable for regular families even with price increases, while Disney continues to price itself as an elitist destination. Walt’s original dream is dead and long gone. I just thought about the possibility of extending the Disneyland Railroad into Disneyland Forward. That seems like an interesting idea. Think of a smaller version of World Showcase -- only make it 2-stories tall. Innovative rides and entertainment that work in smaller but taller 2-story spaces. Outdoor and indoor waterfront restaurants and bars (Drink Around The World -- West Coast Edition!). Plus a next-generation lagoon show -- visible from both floors of the entire park! Multiple shows every night. Multiple themes. 2024 projections, 3D audio, fountains, lighting, and ???. Disney could sell After 4pm APs to help shrink the nighttime crowds at the other two parks and DDD. Now THAT's a billion-dollar idea that someone at Disney should steal! Seriously though, an always-moving people mover would actually be the most efficient way to get people from the new parking structure to the parks. You have staff at the stations helping people who need help to board and evenly dispersed vehicles that allow for wheelchairs as well. Much better to just build an all-new path for that than closing the Monorail for however long to divert the track. Though I guess if they want to divert the monorail all the way to the third park, they'd have to do that anyway. But still, they have to have the new structure before they can close the Toy Story lot to build there anyway. Offering both options at the new structure would be great. Maybe even add a Skyliner line as a direct service from that structure to the third park. Basically, the new structure becomes the Disneyland version of the Transportation Hub. **JOY & LAUGHTER!!** The Wizard of Oz (1939) Reaction: FIRST TIME WATCHING Nick Reacts *IT SAVED DISNEYLAND*: Pirates of the Caribbean Alex the Historian 10 Best PIXAR FEST Snacks at Disney California Adventure SoCal Disney my own Dad last name as same last name to me NOW PLAYING Tiana's Bayou Adventure Opening Date Announced for Magic Kingdom, Protests at Walt Disney World WDW News Today 7.7K views 5 hours ago New Opens Up About Quitting Acting 27K views 1 month ago NOW PLAYING **JOY & LAUGHTER!!** The Wizard of Oz (1939) Reaction: FIRST TIME WATCHING Nick Reacts 1:12:28 NOW PLAYING NEW First Visit to Fantasy Springs at Tokyo DisneySea! 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[@maxickingdom]

10:04 Even better for DCA would be a new SEA inspired area. Sure, they have SEA in Adventureland, but it would be such a perfect fit for DCA. Hopefully a version of Mystic Manor or an even better original ride inspired by SEA! I would love to see Fantasy Springs there too, but it would be quite awkward seeing that not next to Fantasyland/ part of Fantasyland.

[@chestnu1]

I remember when the plans for the Eastern Gateway Project were submitted years ago they included moving the monorail closer to the other set of tracks for a bit and away from Hollywood Land. So no issues there.

[@ttttttttttttttttttt22t2t]

The "overlaid portion" isn't HK Disneyland's Frozen land its the Frozen Area within Fantasy Springs.

[@scarabeo500gt]

Only one word yelled at the top of my Lungs "Peoplemover" OK Louder "P E O P L E M O V E R"....!!!

[@rebeccakravitz7711]

They can’t build fantasy springs, it would have to be something like it but different properties due to the fact that OLC has a exclusively agreement where Disney can’t build rides/lands in OLC parks for a few years, I forget the exact time.

[@techguypaul]

Seriously though, an always moving peoplemover would actually be the most efficient way to get people from the new parking structure to the parks. You have staff at the stations helping people that need help to board and evenly dispersed vehicles that allow for wheelchairs as well. Much better to just build an all new path for that than closing the Monorail for however long in order to divert the track. Though I guess if they want to divert the monorail all the way to the third park, they'd have to do that anyway. But still, they have to have the new structure before they can close the Toy Story lot to build there anyway. Offering both options at the new structure would be great. Maybe even add a Skyliner line as a direct service from that structure to the third park. Basically the new structure becomes the Disneyland version of the Transportation Hub.

[@eddieo6466]

A lot of the overseas expansions, have a 5 year " do not duplicate " anywhere else...so we gotta wait. Unless the make different rides maybe.(but do not make that frozen Gadget coaster...too quick)

[@stevemccormick6908]

I was a manager at the carousel inn and suites, finally the property will be utilized , hooray

[@stephgonzalez4788]

As a Disney fan I’m excited! As a DCA cast member I’m scared about parking cause Simba is our parking lot 😭

[@RagertYT]

Yay! Also big fan of your content. I can’t help but binge video after video. Especially while I’m at work. Thanks for making quality content :)

[@OffhandDisney]

Thanks for watching!

[@ChrisTheFreedomEnjoyer]

If they get rid of Mike and Sully to the Rescue to replace it with Avatar I will riot.

[@pinball541]

I think they will keep Monster's Inc, & they should turn the Hollywood backlot into a Zootopia Land. That makes the most sense to me, & the Monorail would fit in the area.

[@stanfordite1]

Mike and Sully will be replaced with a newer version of The Great Movie Ride complete with a Grauman's exterior. The Wizard of Oz and Raiders of the Lost Ark will be return but otherwise all new movies including The Ten Commandments which will feature the parting of the Red Sea.

[@Darth_Arashi]

They can get rid of finding Nemo. I have nightmares of that ride imagine that ride breaking down. Just stuck underwater 🤮 😭

[@stanfordite1]

@@Darth_Arashi There are catwalks alongside the track above the water in the show building for evacuation.

[@MrJmoering]

For the 3rd gate you can make an ultra immersive park. I think of Phantasialand in Germany. Where the hotels, shops and rides are integrated to the themed lands. You don’t even see the barriers between the rides and the walking areas

[@thisismaribethe]

Am I the only one that likes the smallest of the park? I like the fact that is not as chaotic as Disney World. I’ve come to appreciate the two of them having different paces and different vibes.

[@happiestplace3754]

I am already a huge fan of Fantasy Springs in TDS, and it hasn't even officially opened yet. Now I've been getting hit pretty hard by Disney fans all over social media saying, NO MORE CLONES, no cut and paste, stop copying, we want original attractions. And believe me, I get it, I want each park around the world to be unique, but here's the thing; when it comes to the U.S. parks versus the overseas parks it's a different thing. There are many people in the U.S. that can't afford to travel overseas, and those that just don't plain want to travel to foreign countries. Bringing attractions from parks like Paris and Asia to the U.S. gives an opportunity to people that otherwise wouldn't get to experience them. Fantasy Springs has already proven itself a culture shift in the Disney theme park experience, and many people I've realized don't even know what the backstory of Fantasy Springs is (largely because it's all in Japanese). The inclusion of a themed hotel and 3 mini lands is already being described as a theme park within a theme park. This concept would completely work for Disneyland Forward and everything doesn't have to be an exact clone, just based off the same concepts. Who wouldn't want to see signage at the Disneyland resort that pointed "Peoplemover To Fantasy Springs".

[@AlexMartinez-gv7hy]

So I would like a video in the people mover. I need to understand people's obsession over the people mover

[@ImaGrippli]

I think the "blue sky" thing will be a time share/ long form immersive experience, like the Star Cruiser thing but more classic Disney than modern.

[@zaklex3165]

I think the first thing to be build should be that new parking garage...but then I also think they should re-route the monorail to serve said parking lot, but I digress...first thing first, build the new parking garage so you can close the other parking lots.

[@JackDaloots]

8:00 - Actually I was clicking for this... you got me D:

[@KLGChaos]

Hello from Buena Vista Palace. Will be spending the next week in the Disney parks, resorts and Springs.

[@jennlin71]

4 hour video of people mover plus another hour + video of the Haunted Mansion would make my day, week, month, year! Love the updates

[@brianwisdom8051]

Maybe put Avatar in the Simba lot with 1 or 2 other lands, Frozen in between the parking structure and Disneyland Hotel, Zootopia in the Hollywood backlot and a Disney Sorings/DVC resort in the Toy Story lot. No major re-themeing or re-routing of the monorail required and you redo Tomorrowland completely to include a new Peoplemover. Just crazy enough to work!

[@BudiandLeo]

With the removal of additional parking and another land, they need to add back in the parking or bring back the shuttle services because there's going to be even more people who want to visit.

[@MrMadshepherd]

That’s right, we’re all thinking it. California needs its own Living with the land

[@Dreaklock]

There is a lot of property above Toon Town. They should clear those buildings out and exapand the park there as well. As for the building, move those across town or something.

[@expensivepink7]

your enduring love for the people mover is so beautiful

[@PatrickHogan]

This is the video I have been waiting to drop. This subject by you.

[@LucidPhoton]

As some one who lives near Anaheim I'm very excited. We need more attractions and stuff to do around Disneyland. Stupid Orlando being too expensive and being on the orther side of the country

[@rolfathan]

Fantasy Springs is perfect because the land itself isn't themed to a specific movie, so if in 20 years Frozen falls off in popularity, they can retheme the ride and not worry about the land being redone with it. Maybe just the ride exterior. I'm throwing my hat in for what I want most: A spooky land. Not villains exactly, because I want a year-round Nightmare Before Christmas ride. It's an insanely popular IP still, the ride gets filled for Haunted Mansion Holiday. It closes a classic for months out of a year. Just give it its own ride, and keep Haunted Mansion open longer in the year. And, as the original vision had it, there was supposed to be a "spooky" ride in EACH park. When Tower of Terror closed, DCA lost its spooky ride.

[@leonelflores7143]

Agree! 3rd park. Would make California a vacation destination instead of a weekend trip.

[@jokeal3613]

You don’t need a people mover to walk over a 70 foot road. It will probably be a tunnel bridge that brings you into Frozen or whatever land is across the road.

[@KhurtKhave669]

We must Move the People!!!! ❤

[@WalmartJedi]

The Tokyo parks have a 5 year lead out exception meaning that US and Other parks have to wait 5 years before cloning those properties or IP lands

[@thinkpink1021]

Not only five years I believe. No attraction originally from Tokyo Disney has been reproduced in other parks.

[@murdoc6501]

Brillant stuff here! Fantastic insight and way to share the crazy data of zoning and planning! Go Offhand Disney, keep moving forward!

[@zeroconsequences]

They could put avatarland where backlot is, but they'd have to hide the monorail in some sort of tunnel and the kinetic atmosphere it brings will be wasted on darkness. I heard somewhere that the backlot is actually a better fit for Zootopia which makes sense.. their monorail was central and very important to the theme of the movie. It brings everyone together from different regions, which is also a theme Disney would never pass up on.

[@Kylehudgins]

“New Tomorrowland” would be what I would do. An entirely new Tomorrowland in mid-century design that mixes with nature in a way that shouldn’t age poorly focused on how California is the heart of technical innovation and renewable energy. Sweeping RGBs can add to the kinetic energy. I would add a bunch of hotel room balconies overlooking the land and call it “Tomorrowland hotel” so the land feels massive and lived in like Epcot should have been. A refreshing break from pessimism and something Walt would have loved. Perhaps the old Tomorrowland area can be used for a new “mountain” coaster. Perhaps with such a project they could point at the land when anyone criticizes the parks - a place devoted to science and not profit.

[@juke9576]

My word is law. A villains theme area is the real answer

[@plushie_kingreal]

13:25 Can you make that 4 hour long video please because i am obsessed with that people mover too and I want your 4 hour long opinion!

[@gregr3720]

Disney should turn the Toy Story parking lot area into "Tiana Land". Where they can make it an entire "Princess and the Frog" themed land.

[@cutenewt3963]

I think it would be amazing if they were considering turning the Toy Story parking lot into an immersive live action roleplay experience like they tried with Galactic Starcruiser. Those buildings might be rides but they could also be hotels and resorts. Having all of that built right into a full size park experience would be so cool, like Evermore but done right

[@dayoldbread1696]

An avatar or avengers hotel like that could be awesome

[@thedisneygeek7931]

Smaller version of Fantasy Springs would definitely be on the Disneyland side as the tunnel would be near critter country more imerserve and then Avatar and more Pixar type attractions on the DCA side

[@Orkunkadunk]

Your near limitless optimism is intoxicating sometimes

[@briankunnari]

Seeing Fantasy Springs now that video is releasing, it just might be the most amazing creation on Earth, to date, from Imagineering. My hope was to see it land somewhere in this project but I think you just called it. If Fantasy Springs is coming to California, it's as a mini theme-park on the Toy Story lot with the hotel. And I wouldn't hate that for a moment.

[@MarkLLawrence]

They bring Tron to California and I'll be a season pass holder once more. I'll be there every week to ride it.

[@peter-mickey-chu198]

On June 27, 2022; Me And My Beautiful Asian Soulmate (Maya-Minnie-Chu) Got Married At The Disneyland Resort In Anaheim, California; Where She Grew Up At.

[@Undrave]

Clearly the third gate will be DisneySky! A sky themed park in a giant tower :D With that space elevator restaurant at the top.

[@nisanbarzion]

Thank you for simplifing this. I watched couple of videos about this and this video was the easiest one to follow. I agree that the parking structure would be the first thing to be built. Probably 12-24 months. I hope they can do a semi open so they can start working on avatar land to replace Hollywood studios in DCA. Since they closed the Hyperion theater - it’s just monster inc - which is a mid ride at best. I wonder if they can hide the monorail inside avatar’s floating hills… that can take the sound of the train and maybe help the noise become part of the land ? I think that Hollywood land definitely needs work. As for the expansion: it makes more sense to me that the area around Disney hotels (simba parking and the other flat parking) would be the 3rd park. As you said: it is as big as DCA - and you can get into it from Mickey’s and friends right ? From Disneyland and DCA there would be access - probably where they can check tickets ? Maybe. Idk. It makes sense that this big area with 16(?) rides can be its own park. As for Toy Story parking lot: I think it’s perfect place for a budget hotel like the all starts in WDW. This is where people today use for budget options. But if Disney would put their spin over it and supply free transportation (sky liner?) then it would be worth the $200+/night of a Disney budget hotel. But I don’t think that would be enough. There will be more. I’m thinking restaurants and shops. Something to make people want to go and have a look around and consider their next stay at a Disney hotel.

[@redroosterranches]

I could see the new DCA expansion getting a Big Hero 6 attraction to tie in the San Fransokyo changes to the warf

[@jkwinders]

Parking lot ---> Parking garage... put me on city council!

[@averyeml]

Avatar replacing the Hollywood area has been my first place theory since jump. Mostly because it is kind of a lame area as-is, at the time they hadn’t called it a “land” so I figured it could fit in the small footprint, and the alien landscape could kinda fit in with the Guardians tower story vibe. My number one case for it not going away is that I don’t want it to touch my beloved animation building. But also, I feel like the Frozen show pulls solid food traffic, so if they trash it they also need a show space in their new stuff.

[@danweig2288]

We’re all focused on new attractions and lands for Disneyland Forward, but I think most of the expansion will be for Disney hotels. Disney can double dip on out-of-town guests when they also stay on property.

[@SciFi2285]

Although Disneyland Forward is pitched as "within the existing footprint" I think what happens to the GardenWalk Mall will be key to how the Toy Story situation develops. Disney is being coy about all this because opposition from the merchants there could've thrown a wrench into getting Disneyland Forward approved. And they simply don't know whether GardenWalk will survive in its current form. Nobody does. But GardenWalk occupies prime real estate between the current resort area, cast member parking (where the new parking structure will go), and the Toy Story lot. Controlling it would give Disney direct authority over that entire corridor. Which might clear the way for a third gate.

[@dronesaur4328]

I've always wondered about Disney KZbinrs that don't live near the parks. I'm sure there are reasons, but I can't imagine doing Disney KZbin and not living in either Southern California or Central Florida.

[@BlairSlavin]

Well, with Disney’s current way of building things. Once you add a multilayer parking lot. And they have to of course add restaurants/lots and lots and lots of shopping stuff/and then they’re going to consider rides. So I think we’ll be lucky if we get three rides out of the whole thing.

[@carminecdinoproductions]

Epcot should fix up Frozen Ever After and replace the screen-face animatronics with new animatronics straight out of the international Disney parks!

[@stanfordite1]

Or Frozen Ever After and all things Frozen should go away in favor of the return of Maelstrom to Make Epcot Great Again.

[@djguillyd]

Unpopular opinion but I like IP based rides and lands original rides are good but seeing seeing movies I like come to life via ride feeling like you’re a part of that movie is great as well

[@Krillinish2]

I think adding the California classic PeopleMover in DCA’s expansion would be necessary to tie it to the California theme.

[@wraithkelso]

Personally I want to see Frozen go in the old Motorboat Cruise and the North end of Autopia oriented so that Matterhorn is part of the sight line, I don’t think we need a full land, just a ride with a new permanent meet and greet location attached. I would also consider the Fantasyland theater for either Beauty and the Beast or Tangled from Tokyo. Even with the expansion pad for Hollywood I don’t think the plot of land is big enough to do Avatar as ambitious as we would want so I would actually put Avatar either in the Simba lot or a 3rd gate at Toy Story lot. I would prefer to see something with a more Urban LA style environment in the Hollywood plot so that we don’t have to hide the monorail the top 2 candidates I can picture are Zootopia or even an extension of Avengers Campus to give opportunities for X-men, Fantastic Four, etc. Also, for the Simba lot I want to see a permanent Coco attraction

[@jamesl1130]

JPL (Jet Propulsion Labratory) space theme The Tar Pits (Ice Age characters) Are 2 possible themes for DCA

[@UmmYeahOk]

Seriously, what is Disneys deal with Avatar? It was a very successful film in 2009, that everyone forgot existed by the time Disney announced the land in AK. It wasn’t even that good of a movie. It was essentially Fern Gully meets Pocahontas. What made it successful was the amazing special effects at the time, which brought back 3D into theaters. When releases to Blu-ray, which was still a fairly new medium, it wasn’t released in 3D! Avatar 2 tried to respark everyone’s interest in the franchise, but they kind of already started dumbing down the land immersion by selling generic park merch. And what demographic is the franchise marketed towards? I mean, at least, with Marvel and Star Wars, they’re trying to appeal to young kids… …although I question theatrical releases. Cartoon series is one thing, but 3 hour movies? That many releases in a year? I just feel like this is essentially an entire land dedicated to Splash Mountain, in that very few people who experience it have even seen the movie it’s based on, let alone even know it was based on a movie. I just think that DCA lost a lot when they lost A Bugs Land. Place was packed on weekday off peak season. So many attractions for smaller children, and they have what now? Spider-Man? That’s great and all, but how many toddlers want to ride that? And one ride to replace all the others? They really need something similar to the new Fantasy Springs in that side of the park instead.

[@NecrofilmLTD]

I really want the Toy Story lot to become Westcot, but I just have a feeling that it will become Disney Springs West. Which means that they would level Downtown Disney to expand Disneyland.

[@bethannierose1885]

oriental land company has an exclusivity clause, fantasy springs can not show up at any other park

[@DanielGomez-gw4kt]

Offhand Disney in case you forgot, there is an empty area specifically for cast members behind guardians of the Galaxy mission breakout. The truth is that was like a leftoverat what used to be the Timon parking lot, and I've been wondering and hoping of what they would fill that area with. So just to let you know, they might put Avatar the experience in that area. Because I wouldn't mind like a translation from Avengers Campus into Pandora along the way. And besides using guardians of the Galaxy Mission breakout attraction, would be like a great translation. Because the guardians of the Galaxy are from a different galaxy, and Pandora from Avatar is a planet from a different galaxy as well. So it would be cool to make a translation from guardians of the Galaxy Mission breakout, and then walk into Pandora next to the attraction. And the truth is the area behind guardians of the Galaxy has enough room and enough space to have three or two attractions for Avatar the experience. so don't forget they might use that area to put Avatar the experience, maybe behind guardians of the Galaxy mission breakout