Amazon CANCELS Expensive Flops After CEO DEMANDED Answers

[@disparutoo]

The Periphal and League of their own have been cancelled after previously being renewed by Amazon Prime Video for absurd reasons. In a rare win for Amazon, sanity rules. Instead of renewing financial failures like The Peripheral and League of thier own because we wanted to preserve someones feelings, or we're been emotionally manipulated. The bottom line once again becomes more important. It's just a shame it took the CEO demanding answers about Amazon Prime Videos spending and budgets before these obviously bad decisiones were reversed. It begs the question, what will happen to the the people responsible for the decisions in the first place. Amazon Prime Video can't have the Amazon CEO looking over every decision all the time, the only way to run a company like this in the long term, is to have reliable leadership incharge in the first place. But what do you think? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)

[@AliensEatPeople]

What is the mic you use? How much did it cost? 🤔

[@johnpatz8395]

As I put below, Amazon would be better off if each month they gave a couple random frequent viewers of Amazon Prime content a million USD just for watching. This way they would get more people watching and wouldn’t require spending 100’s of millions of dollars to produce total shit series.

[@johnpatz8395]

As I put below, Amazon would be better off if each month they gave a couple random frequent viewers of Amazon Prime content a million USD just for watching. This way they would get more people watching and wouldn’t require spending 100’s of millions of dollars to produce total shit series.

[@nautdead3197]

I didn't even know peripheral existed until this video never saw anything for it, not even on the new on Amazon Prime page. If you're audience doesn't even know it exists how are they going to watch. They dropped the ball in more ways than one on this.

[@Lazrael32]

Much like all the people in power making bad decisions in media.... they'll likely stay there because if you fire them the rest of the media will call you names and blacklist you.

[@Drakonis.Imperial]

They should have just told the CEO that they were "subverting his expectations" ... he was expecting to make money off of their programs and they subverted the ever-loving HELL out of it. And hey, they've "re-imagined" the concept of "profits" for "modern audiences".

[@benwarwick4290]

That's probably what happened lmao😂😂😂

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

He should have replied that he was subverting their expectations... of still having a job.

[@Cman04092]

​@@Nyet-Zdyesif only, but it seems all these fools like Jennifer Suckie still have jobs.

[@lesath7883]

They subverted everyone's expectations of making a good series, of recpecting the source, of getting high ratings, of making money, of earning the right to multiple seasons....

[@NorseGraphic]

🤣

[@haydn-db8z]

It's so weird that a company that was built on giving customers exactly what they asked for now thinks they can tell everyone what to like.

[@jppitch6734]

They were built on selling used textbooks to poor college kids. It's mind bogling what they are now.

[@PolarizedMechs]

Maybe that's why. Amazon got too big for its britches.

[@dronesclubhighjinks]

I think the company you're talking about is distinctly different from Amazon Studios. It's a very bad look for a woman in charge of the studios to be making decisions based on her emotions - While deliberately ignoring focus groups that told her the truth, which she did not want to hear. As a woman, I feel this is worse than cringe. It's feeding into a (some might say THE) negative stereotype men have held against women and the advancement of women's rights since the mid-1800s. Why don't the Hollywood decision making people understand that they can try to lecture as much as they want in their "entertainment" offerings, but nobody's watching them except perhaps a tiny niche audience, so what's the point? I guess it makes their smug conscience happy ("I've done MY part in telling the deplorables what to think") and helps them to feel "seen" by the people whose approval they desire - and that is certainly worth hundreds of millions of dollars, right, Amazon? 🤔

[@brad4058]

@@dronesclubhighjinks You mean why women should not be leaders? Well sometimes, you just gotta give them what they want. Give them enough rope to hang themselves. Kathleen Kennedy was one of the biggest ones to have fucked an industry with her decisions. Now it's Amazon's turn. They think making women act like men is a way to show off the power of femininity in their movies, they're only proving that masculinity is the trait most needed for leadership.

[@nedbigby9694]

You're talking about a company that uses child slave labor.

[@Mike45978]

When I was a freshman in college, I came into a seriously struggling theater program. The main director was enamored with weird, off the wall shows to "confront and challenge" the audience. You might get 20 to 30 people per show, the program was in bad shape. Along with me, came a new director who realized that the world sucks and people just wanted to be entertained. He started doing "meat and potatoes" shows. By the time I graduated, we had sold out, standing room only shows every single night. There's a place for avantgarde, off the wall sturm und drang - but it's not going to make you money.

[@TheWarrrenator]

Avante garde requires good marketing in order to meet audiences looking for that experience/content to be successful.

[@RebelLeigh]

So it would seen that one would mix in "vegetables " with the "meat and potatoes" by doing 15% avant-garde productions while keeping the solvency of the theatre

[@scottadler]

When I was at an extremely prestigious film school, one of my classmates -- a German admitted because he was sorta black -- did a "meaningful" project based on the work of a pair of German post-war communist novelists. I did a Bob Newhart Show episode. Much to my shock, the faculty and the other students loved it, but the Gunter Grasse and Heinrich Boll adaptations were intensely disliked. But my German colleague was allowed to finish his program. I was thrown out for anti-communism. Hollywood...

[@robertmaybeth3434]

That's a great story Beefers can we have the name of this clever director? And what he's done since then?

[@macmcleod1188]

​@RebelLeigh there's the problem... you think they are vegetables... but the audience thinks they are Surströmming .

[@hermitsunite953]

for a moment, I had hope that they cancelled Rings of Power.

[@parzivalSkywalker]

Me too man me too

[@ReformedSauron]

Same. I've got serious blue balls now.

[@Peak_Aussieman]

Me to. A man dream damn it. Not all who wonder are lost...

[@Danimeows]

Same!

[@Mechenzo440]

They cant, they have to make 5 seasons from what i know

[@JustAnArrogantAlien]

Amazon’s programming is so far off my radar that I’ve never even heard of most of these shows. _Rings of Puke_ was so awful I can’t even pretend to have any interest in anything else with their stamp on it.

[@wrath231]

Pure dreck!

[@insane_troll]

The Grand Tour is pretty good, but we're lucky to get one episode a year now.

[@sociallyineptclownprincech8731]

They use profit and loss synonymously

[@boatymcboatface666]

The Expanse? That was worth the subscription I never paid, came as part of my broadband service lol

[@captaingenius-o1c]

there are HUNDREDS of Kathleen Kennedy's in hollywood, who have been given authority for no reason...NONE, except they are a WOKE chick.....

[@adamcolon]

Jack Reacher is a fantastic show because it was based on the writings of an actual author, Lee Child. Someone without an agenda, someone who isn't trying to make an impact on the world, he's just trying to write a good story with good characters. These people need to get over themselves and focus on writing a good story that people will enjoy... that's it.

[@dannyt4663]

The showrunner (Nick Santora) also happens to be extremely experienced and competent, which you can't say for many other Amazon dumpster fires like Rings or Wheel of Time (also based on writings of actual authors). For some inexplicable reason Salke & Co. continue to give hundreds of millions to inexperienced dunderheads like Rafe Judkins and Payne/McKay

[@johnandersonii]

Wheel of Time has some of the best fantasy source material the literary genre has to offer. The show runners decided they wanted the name, "Wheel of Time", but they wanted to have theie own woke story which has nothing to do with the books at all. They produced a train wreck, but they'd already been greenlit for 3 seasons before the first episode aired. Most fans of the books bailed after the very first episode. If they'd have followed the books, it would have been a hit. It seems Amazon studios just likes setting money on fire. No way has any increase in prime subs from these shows covered the costs. Just no way.

[@bubbajones5905]

the Jack Reacher series was a big success, and yet we only get one season, while the garbage gets renewed. Great business model.

[@ComedyTragedy12]

Just because the show features people that are different than you, doesn't mean there is an agenda. It just might be a story that involves people who might be different than you. No different than a TV show with all straight white people doesn't necessarily have an agenda against people that have different than you. But a racist or a homophobe will refer to things as an agenda as a way of putting the blame on the Creator rather than putting the blame on themselves

[@ComedyTragedy12]

​@@bubbajones5905Jack Reacher season 2 comes out in December

[@objectivelyacat4862]

You've got to love all of the half-measures Amazon is using to save pennies while shoveling pounds into the bonfire!🤣 The entire studio is rotten to the core! The management has absolutely no capacity to gauge quality and talent! But we're going cancel a couple of series to save on their budgets!

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

They just released the last season of Jack Reacher... but they renewed WoT and RoP. Salke and Kennedy are like two peas in a pod... incompetent idiots.

[@gitamic2287]

I do have to wonder where their world class managerial "scrimp everything to bare bone to save a buck" is. Imagine how many workers got docked because they were 5 seconds late returning from their pee break funding one episode.

[@GenericProtagonist7]

EGS, they get paid more to do this than they get paid for making a good product or piece of media.

[@MadsterV]

@@GenericProtagonist7 they get paid in rating. As soon as the rating becomes useless, their stock tanks.

[@mrsleep0000]

Who knew pandering to people who aren't fans of the original IP was a bad idea? Who could have seen this coming?

[@TheBestEverEverEver]

Those communities advocate to destroy franchises and once they know they’ve gone woke and will become propaganda pieces they celebrate then drop the IP and work to destroy another. They never actually watch what they destroy.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

What do you meannnnn, surely all of the lord of the rings fans are 80% female. Right?! Right?! Its not like us men have been made to feel like shit in the 90s-2000s about being nerds who like star wars, LOTRs and Marvel to it now suddenly being purposely marketed towards women....that would be ridiculous.

[@alicecheshire4806]

@@scotttimbrell8632It hurt my heart to see what Amazon was trying to do the LOTR, and what Disney is doing to literally everything else I love. I would love to say to both of their mugs “Stop pandering to me and give me GOOD movies again!” I loved all those movies the way they were! 😭

[@zimriel]

It can sometimes work. Gremlins 2 exists because Joe Dante and most of the cast hated Gremlins. As one who also hated Gremlins I love the sequel.

[@bubbajones5905]

(Who could have seen this coming?) Clearly NOT the people at Amazon.

[@NeoN-PeoN]

Threatening to label some suit a "bigot" in order to get your show renewed is a lot worse than "emotional manipulation". It's a downright threat to a person's livelihood and, in many places in California, a threat to their physical safety.

[@NoOneGetzOutAlive]

Lol physical safety lmao!!

[@gigiizzy5651]

And yet, there's no accountability for these people. The ones responsible for these decisions made more in a year than we will make in our lifetimes, and most of them still have the job somehow.

[@mrcliff3709]

Or can run into insolvency and they'll get their golden parachute and wind up as an executive somewhere else

[@SirBlackReeds]

Well, Disney's getting sued by one of their financers.

[@mrcliff3709]

@@SirBlackReeds I know I hope they get dragged through the coals

[@StephenGillie]

Origin of the term "brown nosing".

[@undomiel152003]

@@mrcliff3709 No they wont, half of Florida will buy their stocks to save them.

[@kaltaron1284]

I love how the "Snow Brown" actress calls the cartoon dated because it's 80 something years old. Can you imagine what would happen if she ever finds out how old the story is?

[@nintendogamingchannel1007]

Rachel Zegler is dumber then Peter Griffin (Opinion)

[@ArDeeMee]

„Snow Brown“ sums up the problem nicely. Amazon is too racist to respect a story about a fairy tale person with Nordic skin.

[@ab62051]

I doubt she can count that high.

[@Sebadee80]

It goes back to Ancient Egypt, the Brothers Grimm just re-compiled it which was still 300 or so years ago? But that girl is just weird, weird! Enjoy your weekend and nice comment 👍

[@Scarecrooo]

@@Sebadee80She is killing her own career which is funny, because she is a terrible person. Headbutting a wall...what could go wrong right?

[@warp00009]

I liked The Peripheral and was looking forward to seeing the story develop in a second season. Still looking forward to the next seasons of Reacher and Bosch Legacy (on FreeVee). Wish they'd bring back a new sequel series to The Expanse too.

[@musicdaydreams2506]

I liked The Peripheral, too. I’m disappointed it won’t be back.

[@flappyturtlesnatch]

Is it based on the Gibson novel of the same name?

[@musicdaydreams2506]

@@flappyturtlesnatch Wikipedia says it is “loosely based”. I haven’t read the book, so I can’t say more than that.

[@flappyturtlesnatch]

@@musicdaydreams2506 gotcha. Thank you

[@undomiel152003]

Peripheral was very good. It was thought provoking but wasn't pushy. The fear I had was that it would become a Westworld with 20 seasons rather than doing 1-2 or 3 seasons max but closing it like Dark. Where it tied up neatly. One of the biggest mistakes of American networks in plural, make shows that are 1-2 seasons and that is it. So they have less of a risk of cancelling them.

[@therocinante3443]

Yknow, if they stopped wasting literal $billions on this nonsense, maybe they could afford to treat their warehouse employees better..

[@randerson4124]

they never will, remember all that data driven decision making? yeah, it says they can keep doing what they are doing.

[@jamaldominicbarr7379]

Disney fired an entire studio in Asia because KK produced poop!

[@EyeSeeThruYou]

💯

[@TeensierPython]

People keep working there. So it will continue.

[@Orphican]

Just like every other corporation they treat their employees well enough for them to perform and no more. That's the inevitable downside of working for a large corporation.

[@jeffagain7516]

As has been said by many savvy YT Hosts and Commenters; "The Studio has every right to make whatever type shows they wish but the Customer, has every right to ignore those shows." Watching Multi-Million $ Companies losing a fortune due to stupidity and hubris, has become the new and greatest E-Sport yet devised and I am HERE FOR IT!

[@jackhhun2698]

TYT sold out

[@jaffarebellion292]

Rings of Power and Wheel of Time were renewed, but The Expanse got canceled. We truly live in the worst timeline.

[@jeandiatasmith4512]

All they had to do with Wheel of Time was stick to the books. 1 book per season and you'd have an audience for a decade. The amount of minute detail descriptions should make it PERFECT to be made into a true tv show. Everything they could possibly need to know about the entire world is right there for the production. Instead - they hired a person that wasn't a fan, showed disdain for the source material and for the fans, and adamantly wanted to make it his own. You can tell that the set designers scoured the books. But none of the showrunners bothered to read past the first few chapters, skimmed the rest and didn't bother to even get the cliff notes of the entire story. Amazon really needs to cancel it, or hire a good showrunner, listen to Sanderson, and start over.

[@christracey5813]

The birth of Rand, was the jumping the shark moment for me. I don't know how anyone could have thought the show could be taken seriously after that. But in all fairness, I am listening to the Audio Books now and I can say Wheel of time doesn't really get interesting until book four. So there had to be some liberties taken. At least the TV show lead to having Rosalind Pike (Moraine's Actress) read the series for new Audio Books

[@jeandiatasmith4512]

@@christracey5813 They lost me at throwing Egwene off a cliff and Perrin kiling his pregnant wife. I've tried really hard to get through all the shows....but I just can't do it. I've made it into episode 4. I'd rather listen to the audio books for the umpteenth time.

[@dbeaton1111]

Very true. They had a surefire hit and blew it. The showrunner even came out and said he was going to remake it and that fans of the books would probably not like the changes. The books had such a huge following that they often made it through the entire first season, hoping the series would eventually return to the original plot and show some of their favorite scenes, but the show kept disappointing them until the end, when it became clear it was irredeemable. They're not going to be fooled again.

[@Crunch2327]

​@@jeandiatasmith4512didn't them destroying the entire world Jordan built in S1 Ep1 out you off?

[@jeandiatasmith4512]

@@Crunch2327 It sure did. But I pushed through as far as I did, hoping for it to redeem itself. LOL

[@mp4-27d3]

I had a theory that studio executives were out and out stealing money…saying a show costs $100 million when they actually only spent $20 million and just pocketing the difference. Now we know they were just wasting it. I guess that’s stealing in a way…

[@Soupie62]

You just described the plot of "The Producers" by Mel Brooks.

[@TheWarrrenator]

Bloat and largesse.

[@jeffreymatter3620]

Wheel of Time is such a great series of novels, Amazon could easily make it as popular as Game of Thrones. I read both series of books before they were put on screen. Both stories are excellent. The story line for game of Thrones branched out in so many different directions, it was hard to follow in reading the books. Wheel of time is a better written series, consists of 14 books and has the potential to run for 14 or more seasons (IF AMAZON WOULD JUST STICK TO THE STORY AS WRITTEN). The first season of Wheel of Time was very disappointing, but not as disappointing as Rings of Power. it can be rescued but will probably go down the same path as Rings of Power. Never really was a huge fan of Tolkein's writing style, but the stories are great. As for Peripheral, I thought the concept was good and I was looking forward to the next season to see where it went. Was never interested in League of their Own. Could tell just in the previews that it would be a woke mess doomed to fail.

[@farkasabel]

The Game of Thrones show is utter shite compared to the books. Cercei is a m0r0n in the books who just wants power but have 0 knowledge how to keep it while everything falls apart around her while in show she is a mastermind supervillain. The show completely ignores the little details what are hinted in the books which makes it the most interesting like the Lannisters started the whole war because they had no choice as their gold mines became depleted and they are technically broke.

[@danicic87]

Just a question @jeffeyMatter3620 do you feel same after S02E06 of Wheel of time ? I think that second season is much better yes a lot of story is changed .. But there is chanse that adaptation will be good at the end

[@TeacherDoug7]

Not a huge Wheel fan, but I read the first two books and can confirm it was written 1000 times better than GoT, which looked like it was written at a 6th grade reading level.

[@TeacherDoug7]

@@farkasabel Cersei seemed like an idiot in the show too, but was saved by one macguffin after another. The mountain too, they literally kept him alive as a zombie just to have the silly cleganebowl nonsense.

[@justNGC604]

Not cancelling RoP will lose them more money than just dumping it and paying the contractual penalty for not producing five seasons. Imagine treating your customers that way once, lying, deceiving, calling them names, while the whole world watches. And now imagine you'd have to repeat that four more times. 😂 If consumers can learn drinking a different beer, they might learn to shop somewhere else, too.

[@JimAirborne25]

I predict they'll start listening to the fans about mid-season fifth season. Get people interested and the show will have been cancelled and not likely to be resurrected at all, not even "Serenity/Firefly" style. Idiots.

[@forrestdorman4870]

I think they’ll make all 5 seasons but the big wigs will gradually reduce the budget for each season to lessen the loses.

[@OuchXXI]

I don't understand how they can hire no name actors and spend that much money. It's not like we are getting these amazing shows either. Most of the quality doesn't even come close to what modern video games can do. There needs to be a reckoning, cause all of this is looking more and more like money laundering all the time.

[@RantTheRetort]

fraud, waste, abuse

[@ardendragoon]

Some of that cash is being burned for d.i.e. My friend does commercials. The other day on set, they had an "environmental coordinator". We still have no clue what her job is. Tell people what bin to use?

[@chaos.corner]

Interesting proposition. We're all familiar with the 2M book deals by now. That's surely not the only avenue for such antics.

[@BLOCKBOI3RD]

Facts the new actors don't even have raw talent. It's like everyone is getting jobs because they know someone.

[@nathanmorgan3647]

It is DEI. Diversity, Equity, Inclusion quotas. Woke peacocking at its finest. I am sure knowing which alphabet shafts to suckle like a lollipop on the casting couch also plays a part.

[@ZelPie]

i find it insane that they renewed rings of power but cancelled the expanse

[@nocturnal6863]

It's pretty expensive to make, and I understand it (I haven't read the books), there is a 28 year time jump between books right about here. Hence why the show is "on pause".

[@samblack5313]

To be honest, and I say this as someone who thinks season 1-3 of Expanse is the best sci-fi I’ve ever seen…. Thank FVCK Amazon stopped flogging that corpse.

[@jaco3394]

What bothers me massively about this is that 'diverse communities'( e.g. LGBT+, immigrants, POC) are always used to explain away why a show wasn't popular by the show's creators. There are literally millions of people who are part of those communities, who don't give a f*** about your political agendas and just want to watch good stories. If they include representation, that's nice, but it's not the be all and end all. Still, there are plenty of films and shows out there that are popular and diverse, so stop using us to avoid taking accountability for your bad writing.

[@psychopompous3207]

Yes, their are millions. But as an ethnic minority, I don't need a bunch of progressives telling me when I should be offended. This is the main reason most of these projects fail, along with the bad writing. As a result, half the country avoids it, and even many minorities do too. Thus, failing.

[@ArDeeMee]

^ This.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

I dont think they understand that white people like all black casts too. Fresh prince for example is a staple in my head category for good comedies. But now? You can have all black cast, but youll be fired, hunted down and attacked for simply making an all white cast show. Even friends is being hounded for its lack of black casts, despite having black characters in it. Its a joke and it needs to stop.

[@spurezurko]

Exactly. The put diversity in the middle and then kinda put 'what sticks to the wall' story lines around it, instead of writing a good story, with multidimensional characters, good world-building and then mix representation in it...

[@squarebird]

The word "pandering" seems to have been forgotten.

[@trastewere]

Lol, so you are telling me that burning multiple millions of dollars on a products that noone wante to watch/consume is not sustainable? I am shocked, shocked Amazon!

[@montrose1313]

You're winnings sir.....

[@arentibbs799]

Amazon: "Am I paying people tens of millions of dollars to produce content that the audience does not want to watch? No, it is the audience that is wrong." This can be the only explanation why they renew failing series but cancel series that people want to see more of.

[@shykorustotora]

When I went to Uni for film production, my on set teacher said to us. "If you want to make a movie for yourself, daydream. If you want to make movies for an audience, go to Hollywood." A lot of us students just wanted to make projects that appealed to us. He snapped that BS out of us on Day 1 Edit: I should point out, this was before all this garbage woke crap was choking out Hollywood. Eg, for research, we watched a lot of Hitchcock, not She-Hulk

[@Whookieee]

I feel like a high school English teacher would reject 90% of Hollywood scripts these days.

[@shykorustotora]

@@Whookieee I wanna know what my pre-production teacher made of the “rocks look down” line 🤣

[@InfinityX2]

And fair enough. Everyone is free to make something for themselves but don’t expect the big budgets… hmmm wait given the cinematic output for ‘modern audiences’ the last couple of years your teacher was wrong 😜

[@creatrixZBD]

That’s pretty normal in creative industries education. Best to get it over with early.

[@robertdouth8979]

@@InfinityX2 That was said about Hollywood when he was in school. Now Hollywood doesn't make movies for audiences, but to check woke boxes and then they hope the journalists will berate you and guilt you into watching it. I haven't watched a movie in theatre since COVID honestly, with maybe one exception because so few movies are worth it.

[@jasonligon5937]

I'm part of the Amazon data driven numbers. Six years ago Amazon asked me if I wanted to be a part of the Prime early access group(or whatever the name was, I forget). I accepted because it gave me access to watch shows before they were released. All I had to do is take 50,60,70 question surveys and tell them what I thought was trash, good, etc... So, yeah. I told them just like you, "Why the hell are you making niche shows for 2 percent of the population that are trash and cancelling the shows we like and want to see?"

[@hendywijaya3213]

Please elaborate on their response to your question/opinion.. Wait, do you still work at Amazon?

[@kl1970]

Uh this is uno reversed by leftist diversity ethics.

[@us89na]

Terminal List + Reacher + Critical Role + The Expanse = good, more please

[@scottadler]

@@us89na The Expanse was too much of a downer for me.

[@mcmackmuckm8180]

Shame about the Peripheral being cancelled, I thought it was an interesting idea. As to whether the idea could keep entertaining throughout season 2 is open for discussion, but by the end of Season 1 I was still definitely engaged and looking forward to more material.

[@YuriBez2023]

Amazon hired A-tier developers for the web services side of the business (and it makes mucho dollars). But somehow have hired D-tier people for the Prime side. It makes no sense.

[@badlaamaurukehu]

Gotta get that ESG score somewhere where it won't completely tank things.

[@osets2117]

As they say "it's not about the money, it's about the message"

[@BLOCKBOI3RD]

They also run their warehouse very strictly. But when he comes to shows everyone gets free money 😅😅😅

[@YuriBez2023]

@@BLOCKBOI3RD I wonder if the showrunners get piss bottles?

[@BLOCKBOI3RD]

@@YuriBez2023 facts they need piss bottles and spaced out 15 minute breaks at 17 an hour

[@franciscodanconia4324]

I am still amazed that Terminal List and Reacher actually made it onto Amazon Prime Video without being completely castrated.

[@clogs4956]

Not every producer is incompetent!

[@rebornstillborn]

I suspect they were told "you need to have non-whites and women whom are powerful characters" and the producers just said "Like action movies have had for decades now? Gotcha".

[@ReinoldFZ]

They are good but also they feel too artificial. Like a checking list for a caricature of what is "far right." Amazon is aware of what is cultural war and will try to use it to its benefit.

[@franciscodanconia4324]

@@ReinoldFZ The Reacher series is pretty true to the books. Not sure about Terminal List, but I do know that in the books he falls in love with the reporter character, but that doesn't seem like it's going to happen in the show.

[@franciscodanconia4324]

@@ReinoldFZ Plus the author created Reacher to be a bigger than life character, both literally and figuratively.

[@j.a.terranson]

*As a retired 72 year old businessman, I couldn't agree more - your presentation and arguments were spot om, perfectly rational and wise. No business that starts out (or starts to fall in to the Sulke pattern) doesn't deserve to survive it's first year. What Sulke did was so **_incredibly_** irresponsible that if I were the CEO, she would not only be [loudly and proudly] fired, in the loudest way possible (to let the few non-nutters out there know that change IS coming!] - I would sue her for every dollar she lost by ignoring focus groups.* *On the other hand though - I absolutely wet my pants when I think about Bezos losing several billion dollars, no matter how it happens - the fact that it happened because of his own failure to oversee his own company!*

[@rogerborg]

Clearly they just need to educate audiences in why we should feel bad for feeling good when we watch things that we enjoy. If only they could find a more Modern Audience.

[@nbodeh4658]

they forgot to mention their shows are made for future audiences? damn

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

If I was a studio exec, and someone pitched a show to me that was "aimed at modern audiences", I'd use them to demonstrate the meaning of "defenestrate".

[@randerson4124]

@@Nyet-Zdyes defenestrate verb- (rare) to throw (someone) out of a window..........HELL YA!

[@scottkirby5016]

You have to remember THEY ARE the modern audience. They make this stuff for themselves. Which is why they such different "internal conversations" than those of us outside the Hollywood social networks.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@scottkirby5016 Seriously though, that one comment about the "internal discussions" that they are having... perfectly demonstrates the problem of a "boss" surrounding themselves with "yes-men" and brown-nosers. It sounds like quite a few people at Amazon Studios suffer whiplash every time Salke turns a corner too quickly.

[@MakeitZUPER]

Telling those who get "offended" to grow up was the coolest things I've heard in a long time. The young generation actually believes that they should always get their way and the world needs to change to meet their personal desires. It's just nuts.

[@slickrick7438]

Your comment should have a million more thumbs up.

[@ReinoldFZ]

I don't think people like Kaithlyn Kennedy or Salke are treated softly because they are young, they aren't, but a mix of their privileges as women and their status as fellow millionaires. I was surprised to know the people owning Google had many actions at Apple so they can go to their meetings, as if there would be no conflict of interests.

[@christopherkelley1664]

They could work to change the world rather than whine to daddy corpo, but the latter is all they know

[@Username4real]

Honestly, I was impressed with peripheral. It didn’t come across as girl boss and there were archs for all characters and great CGI

[@kentslocum]

It's so funny that Amazon Studios is making this content in order to avoid offending a vocal minority, but ends up offending everyone else. It turns out they are simply trying to stroke their own egos with adoration from a very specific group of people they want to be adored by. So much for "inclusion and diversity" when you exclude and denigrade everyone else.

[@kingcosworth2643]

The western world for decades has been operating like this. Things been banned because of a few bad eggs, shows pulled because of a single complaint letter. even our elections in the Commonwealth produce minority governments where a major party may get less votes than the other, but if enough independent parties give them their seats, they win.

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

But I think its unfair to put The Periphal in the same corner as Rings of Power; The Periphal had just a different concept. Like kinda Mr Robot. A Niche Series. One of those why I've actually Amazon Prime because I want once in a while some niche Stuff. I am not interessted in FRIENDS in another Format, another How I met your Mother Spinoff or a CSI Miami only on Moon this time. Rings of Power was just simply bad. Like the Witcher Series. It was really bad. No question. But The Periphal wasn't bad. It wasn't the "greatest series of all time!" - Maybe it wasn't even something like Mr Robot; but it wasn't uninteressting, uninspiried and simple boring.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

@@DaroriDerEinzigeif you’re going to use a Gibson staple as your source, stick to the damned source. It’s fricking Gibson, you can’t do better than that. None of those “loosely based on, but we want the name so people will come” bullshit. If you want to reimagine it, build something new.

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

@@c1ph3rpunk You mean, it ain't an original idea but an adaptation?

[@captin3149]

@@DaroriDerEinzige In the case of Wheel of Time it ain't either, it's a tragedy.

[@AnthonyScottGames]

It’s like going to a restaurant and ordering a cheeseburger then the waiter brings you fish and tells you it’s healthier, then complains about not getting a good tip… 😂😂

[@edennis8578]

It's worse than that. It's like ordering a burger and the waiter brings you a pile of corn chips covered in jalapeños when you can't stand jalapeños.

[@kittehgo]

"This is not what I ordered, I want my burger" the server looks at you and calls you a bigot, then proceeds to tell you to eat it. Because you will hurt the cooks feelings..

[@AnthonyScottGames]

@@kittehgo 🤣🤣

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

It's so funny how fast we went from The Golden Age of Television where everyone had a list of shows they just had to watch to a bunch of shows that are just a chore to get through.

[@kennethmcgurn3830]

The big problem is representing those outside the mainstream 100% of the time, not the 1.4% of the time that their numbers deserve and they should appreciate getting.

[@sibusiso2841]

Its like hearing an indian American complain about representation as if india doesn't have a whole movie industry. "Its all about me" mentality

[@Nite-Mite]

@@weird-guythen they should move to India if they care about representation that much.

[@tcunero]

I feel there is a probable link to this being a result of schools and parents not allowing the children to fail. Instead of teaching how to improve we teach to lower the standards and "not hurt their feelings". People need to fail to learn to improve.

[@rebornstillborn]

Good point, though I'd blame the rampant Marxism in woke trash. They view it as a given that their "potential" should be financed by a common pot of money. The fact that corporations and viewers get to make their own decisions about where they spend their money is a problem with "the system", not their own failure to make successful shows

[@ConceptJunkie]

@@rebornstillborn Marxist ideology is the root of all badness in Hollywood (and the rest of the world as well).

[@planetdisco4821]

I grew up in Australia in the 70’s. one of my earliest childhood memories is my old man making me “finish off” a badly wounded buck kangaroo with a 600 mm king-chrome spanner because it was a 250 km drive on dirt roads to Tibooburra for more ammo. Best childhood ever.

[@rfichokeofdestiny]

@@planetdisco4821With a history like that, how did Australia end up becoming such a nanny state?

[@planetdisco4821]

@@rfichokeofdestiny because the overwhelming majority of us basically live in just two massive cities and a handful of smaller ones while the rest of the place is completely empty…

[@NeoN-PeoN]

If a streaming company is not giving the numbers, then it's 100% guaranteed they lost money.

[@arthurw8054]

This channel is better written and performed than most of the TV and movie content being talked about. Thanks!

[@ConceptJunkie]

That's true of a ton of similar channels. I get far more entertainment value out of KZbin critics than any of the material they are talking about.

[@bondgabebond4907]

When Amazon gets their hands of a good book and make a move that is as close to the book as possible, they have a winner. Terminal List is one example of a series that was excellent. They can do it, they need to rid themselves of the woke and immature people in charge of making garbage movies.

[@scottadler]

Read the original novel by David Brin "The Postman" and compare it to Kevin Costner's Hollywood dreck of a movie that cost over a hundred million to make.

[@stub4958]

Yes, I know I enjoyed "Man in the High Castle".

[@psychopompous3207]

Just movies?

[@Rellana1]

@@scottadler I didn't think the Postman was that bad,but I never read the novel. I'll have to give it a look.

[@scottadler]

@@Rellana1 The novel was a simple story about an imposture that became reality: A homeless man finds a postman's uniform and sack of mail and delivers it. The crazy fascist army that dominated the movie didn't exist in the book and appears to have been concocted as a leftist wet dream by screenwriter Eric Roth.

[@MizGizma]

I honestly went into wheel of time wanting to like it. I overlooked the race changes and the slap in the face that was to a series of books that was already culturally diverse. I overlooked the aging up of the characters and the immediate jump into Rand and Egwene having a sexual relationship. But I simply could not overlook the outright slaughter of the plot. I couldn't get past the 5th episode. I couldn't even manage to hate watch it anymore. I look forward to its cancellation and hope that someday someone will do the story justice.

[@killahkentae4788]

Can't agree more. Amazon absolutely butchered the story. Way too ambitious to produce both LoTR and WoT simultaneously. Even still I think Amazon couldn't help themselves by injecting cultural ideologies into the story which destroys its integrity. WoT felt so half-assed, top to bottom. Casting was atrocious besides Thom Merrillin (+1) and maybe Rand, in a different setting? If there was a more progressive gender identity goal to push a narrative by Amazon then it absolutely was not needed. JUST TELL THE STORY!!! There are so many badass women characters in the story that don't require a "reimagining" to make it current to our times. So F'ing frustrating b/c now we will likely never see a reboot or proper telling of the epic story, which IMO is up in the ranks of Tolkien (certainly R.J wouldn't have been there without J.R.R though)

[@darktenor4967]

Same as my lady and I. I am a fan, my lady is a huge uber super fan! including having her own great serpent ring (made long before the series). We watched the hole thing, but we were actively dreading each new episode, just seeing which ways Jordan's writing would be sacrificed on the altar of agenda next! At this point I sincerely hope both Rings of power, and the wheel of time tv series get cancelled and fail so hard that any future adaptation has to promise to stay true to the books.

[@FidelisRaven]

@@darktenor4967 Who was watching what hole?

[@saladinbob]

ROP has a season 2 because the deal with the Tolkien estate is five years, and it hasn't yet become more expensive to produce than to break that contract. That point will probably be reached after 3 seasons, with season 3 having its budget cut to the bone after season 2 flops.

[@kpsk8031]

Season 3 of ROP will be a narrator, still images and royalty free background music.

[@Fishster]

Astonishing they didn’t take an option for 5 seasons.

[@rebornstillborn]

Damn, that's insane. Season 2 they will probably try to catch an audience and then season 3 just give up, just like you said.

[@Vypros19]

Watching a company that treats their employees like shite losing money makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. This is where the real entertainment is.

[@AniClips699]

yea true man but, the money they lose they make back in just a few days and if it doesnt make money they can claim i on taxes as a loss...That why WB cancelled all those finished movies and shows

[@Ravnka]

We have a relative who works for them.. She says they treat her very good. It's peoples dogs that cause the problems..

[@undomiel152003]

@@AniClips699 Strikes is going to be their excuse.

[@Resmund]

"losing money" is a bad term. It goes from a company that treats employees badly to the people that make bad, preachy shows that will never change the world, and truthfully are just a waste of resources.

[@AdamantLightLP]

I still think it's hilarious that the current generation really thinks Amazon workers are treated poorly. Silk shoes man.

[@xavier71a]

Wheel of Time would have been successful if they stuck to the original story. It was already a diverse story, but removing focus from the main characters (and flat out changing their personalities and back stories) ruined it.

[@SapperRJMorgan]

This is exactly what I’ve been saying. 85% of the population doesn’t care about the whole agenda. I have nothing against gays or lesbians but it’s not my chosen topic in my entertainment. Just silly.

[@cashkitty3472]

I think it is nearer 99% that don't care and that includes some lbg people

[@ilfirinms]

If it even would incorporate to the plot somehow. In Strange World, one of leading characters is gay just to be gay a have gay scenes in it. If you cut it all out, literally nothing happens to plot and you wouldn't even notice it.

[@ReinoldFZ]

Most of the gay people I have meet aren't like those on these programs. They are more focused in their businesses and hobbies than yelling their private preferences each five minutes

[@ptonpc]

When a character's defining aspect is what kind of reproductive organs they want to grind against, it makes for some rather limited characters. I have no problem with Hetero / Male / Female / LGBT / etc characters. As long as they are 'people' first instead of that being their core definition.

[@countryjoe3551]

@@ilfirinms That's how you know that it is about indoctrination.

[@iemzaf]

'Mean GIRLS behavior' is spot-on. I'm seriously not a muh-soggy-knees, but its become a pattern when it comes to crazy-cat-lady-karens that just seem to HATE all these fantasy/superhero shows they're working on and or it's audience; - Jennifer Psalke (Amazon) - KK (Lucasfilm) - Lauren Hisrich (Witcher) - Victoria Alonso (M-She-U) - Jessica Cow (She-Hulk) And the list goes on

[@RoseBaggins]

Exactly. It's got nothing to do with them being female, though it's not entirely odd they all are, but if a true female fan was in charge, things would be so different.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@RoseBaggins The problem is FINDING one of those "true female fans". Oh, they definitely exist... but they are also seriously outnumbered. Even then, most of them would probably find it difficult NOT to interject more "chick flick" type activity into the story... like talking about their feelings in hallways... etc. For things like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Wheel of Time, etc., the ratio appears to be something like 5:1... and HIGHER, in terms of male to female ratio of fans. THEN... Characters can't really be any smarter than the writers... Male geniuses outnumber female geniuses about 7:1. Now, you don't really need a genius to run a sitcom... or a rom-com... because they don't take much imagination, but when you have to "develop" some alternative world (as in fantasy), magic system, super-advanced science and technology (Sci-Fi)... it darned sure helps to have someone smart enough to do that... Very similar things apply to spy thrillers, and some other genres.

[@Sammysung]

Lol@ Jessica Cow

[@BigDaddyJinx]

I too observed a very distinct and unmistakable pattern of failure emanating from the XX chromosome crowd. Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this pattern.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@BigDaddyJinx It isn't just the XX's... it's also the limp-wristed XY's...

[@XHobbiesPrime]

I really liked the Peripheral and was really hoping to see a season 2.

[@Alpha67Wolf]

The Peripheral deserved a second season to finish it out. I thought season 2 was a given, but apparently not. When started watching I thought the production was movie quality. .... I digress , They should have stopped Breaking Bad after season 4. It was tightly wrapped up and finished and season 5 was a money grab and after watching season 5, I went from really liking Jessy and Walter to hating both of them.

[@ErinJeanette]

​@@Alpha67Wolfhorrendous perspective

[@coreyleader6206]

The message must be continued. No matter how much other people's money they go through.

[@markusgorelli5278]

Hopefully, that of Chinese Government backers. lol. 🤔

[@My2Cents1]

That was the original plan, only it's failing miserably. Hollywood as an entity thought it had enough money in its warchest to condition the world into accepting a new world order. They knew there would be resistence, but they continued because they figured that people need entertainment. And if they just push it long enough, we're gonna give up and just go to the theaters and swallow anything to alleviate the boredom. But the fact is that Hollywood studios are running out of money one by one, and this will continue until they go bankrupt and sell to Disney. Disney is soon going to own every single major studio.

[@hope-cat4894]

​@@markusgorelli5278Money isn't infinite. Even they'll run out of cash eventually if this keeps up.

[@TheBestEverEverEver]

Push the agenda! Program the young with propaganda! Gaslight those who call it out!

[@losmi85]

Best line from Disparu: "I though everything from the past was useless and we have to re-invent everything every single day" 🤣That's exactly how the people who are in charge of making modern series/movies are thinking. And it's scary.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

Fortunately, we can always count on the markets to be self-correcting. Whether the project is motion pictures or sacks of steer manure (often they seem to be one and the same nowadays), the consumer always decides everything in the end.

[@lordbezzington8435]

They just "invented" a sail for shipping, so get ready for steam power next!

[@smb123211]

I've thought, there are so many- hundreds of thousands fo good books that could be made into a series and yet they make crap no one wants to watch (and then declare it "important")

[@iSOBigD]

I have to disagree because all they're doing is releasing the same product but slapping different names and IPs on it to make easy money from established audiences. They're not reinventing anything, they're just race and gender swapping characters, making them unlikeable and throwing in memberberry references to things people actually enjoyed. It's low effort garbage with no creativity or originality, they're not inventing anything.

[@Frostbite12211983]

​@@iSOBigDThat sounds like Mortal Kombat 1.

[@crispybatman480]

"The audience doesn't know what they want." Only applies to new ideas, for well established stuff like Tolkien's work, they know exactly what they want...

[@thecaptain3594]

Back in the network and cable days, if ratings dropped one point, the network would cancel the show. Now, with these streaming platforms, they're like, "our ratings are down 85%, we are getting panned by audiences and critics alike, and there is literally an angry mob outside screaming for our deaths. LET'S MAKE ANOTHER SEASON!" It is like these egomaniacs in Hollywood cannot come to terms with the fact that their creations are shit and cannot let go of them.

[@silverscorpio24]

Amazon is that "fake celebrity" trope that wears expensive clothes and attends all the nice parties but everyone still ignores them.

[@ReinoldFZ]

And the whole Hollywood. I know other Hollywood companies look down to Amazon but is weird seeing how much garbage they put out themselves.

[@poppinc8145]

@@ReinoldFZ They had a few critically acclaimed productions but then shat the bed with so much junk.

[@bf3knifer]

all controversy aside, i absolutely loved the peripheral, watched it 4 times. to me it seemed such a unique show, ahead of its time, i was so disappointed when i heard it was cancelled

[@chaos.corner]

Peripheral wasn't completely terrible and I'd have liked to see more of the story but 170M? Completely understandable. I think these companies need to hear about the law of diminishing returns. The more you give these creative types, the more they will waste.

[@treytilley333]

I loved the concept, seemed original, can’t think of anything that resembles the plot. I really don’t know where all those millions went though even considering the VFX.

[@chaos.corner]

@@treytilley333 I suspect the lead isn't cheap these days. Though yes, lots of unnecessary VFX and a lot of stunts and trashed vehicles. Having the story be transatlantic probably didn't help either. But no doubt also lots of just plain waste too.

[@Me__Myself__and__I]

I liked it and wanted to see season 2. Though I didn't realize it cost so much. But that is probably because Amazon is bad at negotiation not because it had to cost that.

[@chaos.corner]

@@treytilley333There was a show that started playing with timeline stuff that this put me in mind of. I can't recall what it was called now. Continuum? [Yep, that's the one]

[@Me__Myself__and__I]

​@@treytilley333Its based on a book by William Gibson, so yeah cool concept.

[@aaronm1855]

I'm a film crew employee, here in the west, incusivity and diversity are more important than entertainment. Entertainment is slowly (sometimes not the case) turning into a scorecard of sorts, even down to the crew hired to produce the show...

[@akeelyaqub2538]

Lets call it what it really is. Propaganda.

[@ianlassitter2397]

I have been in it on and off and I 100% agree with you. It’s insane. It has zero to do with quality or entertainment.

[@Deathwink1]

it is capitalism

[@StoneDeceiver]

@@Deathwink1 ?? what?

[@EGreeneConversations]

When it makes sense to have diversity, it should definitely be added. But as a viewer and consumer of entertainment, most of the time, it adds zero to the story and it doesn't make any sense at all. This whole check mark ideology is killing modern media slowly.

[@darktenor4967]

For me, and likely for a lot of other people, the moment I hear "diversity", or "inclusivity", I actually find myself anticipating that something will be an abysmal mess full of preaching, dislikeable girlbossess, male characters who act like door mats and lots of sermons about how wonderful the author's favourite ethnic group/whatever gender designation is. It actually got so bad that when I recently read a startrek novel released in the eighties, and Spok started talking about life being: "Infinite diversity in infinite combinations!" I found myself wincing even before I realised he was talking about biological species, and not whatever identity some pink haired lune has desired to call them/her/cat/zee self today! The double irony is that prior to this era, I've actually enjoyed series like torchwood, or books like Christopher Liden's falcon banner, which do have prominently gay or bisexual characters and half of the fiction I've read or the films I've seen have had female protagonists. The difference is, those were characters first, female or gay or whatever second!

[@zimriel]

See, I saw Current Year happening when Torchwood came out and decided to skip it at the time. An abnormal person cannot help but try to make his perversions superior to others; being 'virtually normal' cannot suffice. All the homophobes were right, back to the days when Genesis and Leviticus were redacted.

[@theghosty99]

IDIC has been a central theme of Star Trek for decades. And yeah, it means all kinds of diversity. If you think otherwise then I hate to tell you but you may not have understood a single solitary minute or page of Star Trek.

[@zimriel]

@@theghosty99 Star Trek isn't my sci-fi religion. Anyway, if a tribe practices sodomy it will probably die, removing that tribe from contributing to future diversity.

[@skitidet4302]

I think the real irony is that Startrek is a really liberal show built upon an incredibly liberal world view, yet they talk about life being infinitely diverse. I guess it doesn't have to be ironic if they where implying that life being diverse was a problem that had to be eliminated through forced integration and ideological homologation, but I somehow doubt that. It's what people like that do. They preach about things that sounds good, while in reality they do everything they can do destroy those things and turn everything in to a despicable brown paste.

[@darktenor4967]

@@theghosty99 I'm afraid you seem to have misunderstood my comment. I did not say startrek did not include the concept of diversity, I said that because these days the concept, even the term "diversity", has been attached to so much bad fiction; often fiction which is in its term misandrist, straight phobic, or racist towards white people, I have a pavlovian response of hatred to even hearing the term "diversity", these days. Is it possible to create a good story with say gay or none caucasian characters? Hell yes, Fyi, I'm reading Victoria Shwhab's shades of magic series at the moment, which features a large range of bisexual characters, and a major plot relevent romance between two guys. However, it also features genuinely interesting world building and complex characterisation (even if it's principle female character is a bit of a Mary sue." However, I was recommended the series by my lady, as good fiction. If however I was recommended it by someone who spoke about "the diversity", I wouldn't have read it, since at the moment "diversity" has come to be associated in my mind, and likely in the minds of a lot of other people, with implicitly bad writing. That was why I winced when I found it in a startrek novel. As many have said, if writers want people to sympathise with characters from a given minority, just write good characters from that minority, and most people will like them, because news flash, most people are not! actually racist/sexist/homophobic. most people do however hate bad writing, and when "diversity", is always associated with bad writing, people are going to start hating that too. Hope that makes sense.

[@huro1845]

I still have a grudge with Amazon for cutting down the last season of "The Expanse" from 10 to 6 ep. for financial reasons, and throwing tons of money at crab shows like RoP. 😡

[@TheBestEverEverEver]

Good shows

[@hammerofscience534]

Eh the show had gone off the rails long before that, hence its terrible performance. Should have been cancelled long before.

[@macmcleod1188]

Yup. Expanse was a powerful show and most the cost was already paid It's a fantastic show, produced by people who loved and respected the story.

[@Valkyrioneu]

I honestly don't get the hate for Peripheral, it was actually a really cool idea and story, especially after reading the books (they did a lot of changes, but it was an interesting alternative to the story). Agreed with the other cancellations though.

[@marychocolatefairy]

I don't know that's it's hated- it was actually at #1 on Amazon when it was on, and has gotten mostly good audience reviews. It's just that it was too expensive to justify.

[@zac8670]

I enjoyed the show a lot. Idk why it costed so much tho

[@cruddddddddddddddd]

I liked it, but I thought they could've adapted Gibson's book in one season - maybe even 5 episodes. Instead, it was dragged out. I still thought it was well-done. I would have much preferred to see Rings of Power canceled

[@ThePainman88]

I really enjoyed the first few episodes, but the last 2-3 where all setup for future seasons. They felt really off compared to of good the first episodes where.

[@OctavianAsix]

What's peripheral?

[@dangtoons1760]

In my experience; giving tons of your boss's money to people you like (especially because you want them to feel good) has another name. it's "embezzlement".

[@amfitness5598]

This some of your best work. Keep their feet to the fire. As an Amazon employee working at AMZL I can tell you we could use those wasted billions put back into the actual business of Amazon …delivering packages 😎

[@coyoteone6197]

See, when Amazon sells me a phone case, you guys send me a phone case. 👍 When Amazon sells me Tolkien, God alone knows what I'll get. 🤣

[@capthavic]

This is what happens when paychecks aren't dependent on performance. The egoists and activists can make whatever they want and piss off your customers and will still get paid for it even if it loses you money. And they'll keep doing it as long as you let them get away with it.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

Which applies to unions and people (like show-runners) who have contracts.

[@capthavic]

@@Nyet-Zdyes I'm just saying that, when it comes to jobs like this, they should make the majority of their money based on how well the show/movie does. They need incentive to make what they work on successful and care what the audience wants. Otherwise we've seen what happens if the "fuck you, got mine" mindset is rewarded and allowed to grow.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@capthavic Agreed. Unfortunately, it doesn't take much of an imagination to picture these people laughing all the way to the bank...

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@weird-guy They need to either get rid of residuals, or figure out how to implement residuals on streaming platforms, which they don't seem to know how to do, yet. For example, you've got hundreds of people involved in making one movie or show. A person might watch 100 shows in a month of streaming subscription. Let's say that they pay 10$/month for the streaming service. Let's say that 1/2 of that subscription goes to the streaming company, and 1/2 goes to the people who make the shows... That would be 5$ per person... split among 100 shows... (5 cents per show) further split among the hundreds of people who made the shows. IMO, a thornier problem is... Why do those people deserve residuals in the first place? If THEY do... then EVERYONE does... or no one does. What about paying residuals to the farmer who grew the food you ate for breakfast 20 years ago? (and every other meal).

[@endangeredspecies8441]

It’s almost like white people trusting people that hate them with massive amounts of money is a bad idea 😂

[@elroysez8333]

The Peripheral wasn't a bad show. I think it had potential. It's a shame.

[@xzy89c]

I love science fiction but this show was meh. Seeing it cost 175 million,wow. What a mistake

[@spanglelime]

I just got back to watching it and finished the 1st season 2 days ago. I really enjoyed it and I am gutted it won't be renewed. If they had put more money into promoting it more than RoP, it might have actually become a popular series. Haven't read the book, and I've always planned on it. but I'm going to buy it through another website.

[@JeffreyRandall]

Is it odd that I think that when people tell you what they will pay for and you do something completely different. You expect the people to actually pay you???

[@andrewcutts3197]

Unfortunately, these executives have lost touch with the real world outside of their friends, colleagues, and social media ‘advisors’ that they rely on to boost their egos. The sooner they are replaced the better.

[@Danimeows]

For a moment I thought lotr was cancelled and I felt joy

[@Jsa460]

I thought WOT was too. Shame. Welp, I guess Amazon wants to lose more money.

[@Odelein]

But then we wouldn't be able to see them fail monumentally for a second time.

[@viktorvondoom5950]

LoTRRoP: The Rise of Galadrrrieeeel

[@juryrigging]

@@viktorvondoom5950 That's so close to being an anagram of trollop.

[@viktorvondoom5950]

@@juryrigging 🤣🤣🤣

[@IamGrief887]

I was part of the built in WoT fanbase. Giving Perrin a wife (that is not Faile) and a crush on Egwene, and what they did to Loial's appearance completely removed me from that fanbase.

[@1969bones69]

I haven't seen the show but from the books I detested Egwene. My absolute least favorite character. I had to force myself to read the parts that had her in it.

[@theguythatiam]

I watched about 15 minutes of the rings of power and knew this was not LOTR. Then I watched LOTR trilogy again to make sure I wasn't tired of the genre. 15 minutes easily became 9-10 hours of complete immersion - from movies I've now seen at least 4-5 times.

[@thomasace2547]

Oh no! Does this mean we’ll have less Disparu material… probably not

[@Lonovavir]

No need to worry, the entertainment industry is renowned for not learning from it's mistakes and denying the obvious.

[@boomingbob1579]

No we still have Disney

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

You would think that these large companies would have some sort of clause in the contracts they make that if the person being paid makes nothing they get paid nothing. You shouldn't be paying someone $20 million a year to do nothing.

[@willdegra317]

They are infected by woke. Woke ideology believes people should get something for nothing. They lean socialist and anti-capitalist. Besides, they would hurt that person’s feelings. This is what happens with the woke cult as employees

[@gorillaau]

You pretend to pay me? I'll pretend to work. What about just axing some thing that belongs on the cutting room floor and then taking out the trash. If a program or movie is devoid of merit, cut it! Otherwise, perhaps Prime isn't such a cash cow for creating your own properties.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

Around 2019 the industry run into the „streaming bubble“, where everybody was convinced that winning the streaming wars would mean being the most successful media company in the world. So lots of companies started to increase their output beyond what the capacity has been. This created an issue with finding good people and drove the industry to insane deals. Nobody cared if this was sustainable as the pot full of gold was just waiting behind that rainbow. So yeah, the industry went into very stupid deals that make no sense, completely driven by fear of missing out (FOMO). Obviously somebody was clever enough to get paid for nothing just on the off chance he has a good idea while sitting on the pot and somebody smarter managed to establish this as a new model for keeping talent close. They all must have had a good laugh, while Jennifer Salke still got paid millions thanks to Amazon’s other businesses. Bottom line: nobody cared about common sense as they were promised to get rich just on the word „streaming“.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

Apparently Amazon is completely unfamiliar with the proverbial, and often repeated wisdom about never reinforcing failure. For Amazon to gleefully contemplate a Season 2 of "Rings", (instead of just dropping the whole gold plated turd and counting their losses) is not just reinforcing failure, it is betting the house on it.

[@johndurham6172]

Amazon should give Zegler a reality show. Everytime she opens her mouth I die laughing and the fact she thinks she's changing people's minds is just icing on the cake 🎂

[@clamum9648]

Highly plowable but incredibly mentally ill

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Crazy is never worth plowing.

[@clamum9648]

@@Kyle-sr6jm Yeah I mean I can't say she's appealing in a relationship sort of way, I just find her insanely gorgeous. But yeah, one of the more mentally ill actresses I've seen

[@Seneca85]

The fact that she wears her underwear on TOP of her shirt, should tell you something of her sensibilities….err … Sense 🥸

[@MrSphandor]

She is only 22 and raised in that background I wouldn't expect anything else.

[@tyrgoossens]

Amazon: "Out audience likes 'meat&potatoes' shows" Hollywood: "YOU WILL EAT ZE BUGS."

[@nathanjohnson6543]

I remember Firefly.... Everybody in every video about canceled shows ever: "I knew someone would bring up Firefly here....what's this joker's angle?" The only reasons why it failed was because it wasn't in a good time slot, it wasn't properly advertised, the series was shown out of order, and they canceled it before it gained enough popularity.

[@desallis]

The Peripheral was good, well written and not about THE MESSAGE and it's a shame it's getting cancelled but it shouldn't have cost $175M to make

[@nicbrone1846]

There were a few girl boss moments and messaging but very tolerable in this day and age. I was also looking forward to a second season.

[@xterracannondale]

I can’t believe it cost that much.

[@desallis]

@@xterracannondale I’m struggling to quantify what it got spent on. The VFX was good but it’s not exactly Avatar. The majority of it is in a small town or houses / sets. The abandoned London probably took a lot of resources but they could have been clever with their locations / VFX budget. Budapest doubles for 1800s England or New York all the time. I guess we have the books to find out what happens next. it’s a pity tho I liked the characters and A good role for Chloe Grace Moretz too

[@shimrodson5443]

It was a pile of dog turd but compared to Rings of Power its a masterpiece

[@MWH12085]

The thing is Amazon is a retail business. You can't just flush a billion dollars down the toilet and expect the executives to just shurg their shoulders and ignore it. Especially with the most recent boycotts of Bud Light and Target

[@edennis8578]

I hope Netflix gets a clue.

[@jamesstrom6991]

Actually they can flush - it’s called being a monopoly and immune to market forces. Monopoly profits lead to irrational market behavior.

[@DynamicUnreal]

Hard to believe a trillion dollar company would succumb to the whims of a couple of 20 million dollar producers just because they have a name. Fire them! Bring in young, hungry, and competent people that have no desire to shove their political and ideological agenda down other people’s throats.

[@rons3634]

Those internal meetings must have been hilarious. Salke: "Let's talk about this show that I really really like. I'd like your honest opinions. Did I mention that I could fire any or all of you? Good, let's discuss."

[@shaunwhitehead1485]

The movie ‘Air’ was always going to fail, Viola Davis had only a month prior she made multiple comments about the woman king movie ‘if you don’t watch it you hate women of colour’ I pass on her movies now

[@vanessac1721]

Pity because it was actually a really good movie with alot of heart and funny. VD is hardly in it.

[@kpsk8031]

Agreed. I was very impressed with Viola Davis in "Doubt". After the despicable "Woman King" and her press tour I don't want to see her ever again.

[@shaunwhitehead1485]

@@vanessac1721 20 years ago I would have liked the type of movie, today na PC, BLM, METOO have ruined the way I view black Americans

[@vanessac1721]

@@shaunwhitehead1485 well, the main cast is white. You don't actually see Michael Jordan. Its about Nike and shoe. But moreover, if you feel that way then you have let a small minority of race hustlers win in dividing people. Air is a feel good movie about an important part of sport history and ahould be looked at it that way. Besides Michael Jordan has never been political, he appreciates all his fans.

[@Tallacus]

It sickens me how the company would give these people such privileges that they can't even give those who bring in the real money to them the fulfillment center workers.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

I wish Amazon gave me a directing job, creating entertainment for the masses. I for one wouldnt fuck it up and insult literally 80% of their viewers. And theres many more like me who would actually want to do good for the sake of the industry and not pandering to fake information and unrealistic societies. Sad really.

[@OneIdeaTooMany]

Prime video is probably run different from Amazon from AWS etc... Andy Jassy sounds like an out of touch bean counter to me and he was originally the CEO of AWS before taking over Amazon. Things will probably get a lot stricter under him than they were before he took over. Expect even less sympathy from him.

[@DarthChrisB]

So generous of you to make a free tutorial video for Amazon executives on how to successfully run a business.

[@paulrichardson4715]

More Jack Reacher please! Great review of how the media companies work!

[@The_Primary_Axiom]

How is toilet rings of power not canceled? That’s weird… weird…

[@Lonovavir]

Money 💰 laundering.

[@TheGreySage0]

It's been cancelled but they are desperately trying to hide it

[@clamum9648]

They signed a contract with the Tolkien estate for multiple years. Wouldn't be surprised if it's cancelled regardless, before the contract is over, if it does horrible enough though.

[@littlejimmy7402]

My Wife saw an ad for "The Peripheral" a long time ago. We gave it a shot, I think we just kind of forgot what we were watching during a commercial or something. She never mentioned it again. We don't bother to even look at amazon anymore for entertainment. It's the same for all the major streamers, they have been cranking out formula since the start. There's only so much beating the corpse of a significant literary figure (who always happens to be a white guy, because history), then ripping the story apart to tell a different story using the title of a super famous and loved story to be inclusive to diverse voices? Are these people seriously telling me that a "diverse" voice hasn't written anything of merit since "Snow White" came out? Now is there time to fix "Song of the South", I triple-dog dare them.

[@RoseBaggins]

I quadruple dog dare them, since those were stories told by slaves. But I guess those stories and myths and fairy tales from anywhere but Europe aren't as good as European? Heck, even American folk lore doesn't cut it? We should have had a fantasy of John Henry by now.

[@ahdvd]

Amazon had one of the best tv shows with The Expanse when they took it over from syfy after they cancelled it. The first 2 seasons they made were absolutely superb and i believe big hits with the audiences and the fans. Then they bought lord of the rings rights and had a massive panic about how much they had spent on it. Total buyers regret, the people in charge of deciding things like this acting like they had a literal blank cheque and not caring about the cost. The wheel of time was bought about the same time and they gave it a full 10 episode season, but as a result they started to pocket pinch on other shows, the expanse was subsequently reduced from 10 episodes to 6 for a final season (the creators wanted to take a break as the books take a 20 year break at that point, hopefully in a while they will come back for the last few seasons of books) and it shows at times from the rushed storytelling it should have had the full 10 episodes. I fully believe that they overextended themselves with rings of power, and they will not admit how much of a failure it has been because it would just look so monumentally bad a failure with how much they spent on it. The thing is, as someone who did go back to watch the end of it - the last 4 episodes are actually good and really entertaining - they will make it a multi season show just so they can say they have a full story for what it cost, and probably release it on disc to have it be a set with the peter jackson movies.

[@samblack5313]

I’m a huge fan of the expanse, but I never watch past season 3. Amazing bought it and season 4 immediately went to “white man bad”. It was insufferable.

[@bilko991]

Wheel of time is getting a third season?! We truly live in dark times.

[@bastiangugu4083]

The mafia line: "Nice studio you got there, let hope no one calls you a bigot". Simply perfection 🙂 It seems that politics, universities and entertainment are fields in which you can get and hold a job down simply for being something or other. I really would like to see if those people care about the sexuality or proclivities of the one who assembled their car or plane or really anything that needs to function properly.

[@april6rain]

I really liked The Periphal, so sad its been cancelled. I was looking forward to S2

[@anomietoponymie2140]

Me too.

[@TaoScribble]

My job is having the same problem, funnily enough. Store manager (highest level manager in the store) is too spineless to enforce consequences on poor performers/the chronically late, and too afraid of being honest with the higher-ups as to the problems the store is having (mainly because it means she hasn't been doing her job for the past several years). She expects things to just 'work'; for people to not be 'negative'. She also recently had the nerve to complain about her management staff "not supporting her", while also wondering why the turn-over for managers at her store is at *_150%._* I'm not kidding with that number, by the way. The higher-ups recently came in and demanded to know WTF is going on and why we haven't been able to keep people for more than a couple months since she took over. She's a lovely person, but she's an *awful* store manager.

[@cheesesniper473]

Sounds like she shouldve had kids instead of a career lol.

[@likeorasgod]

@@cheesesniper473 no cause even kids should be accounted for there actions. When I did something wrong as a kid I got punished. Just like if I came to work late I would get punished. A person like that would never ground there kids and just let them walk all over them.

[@schoo9256]

​@cheesesniper473 speaking as a child of a woman like that, she 200% should NOT.

[@BigBossBernie]

Just imagine amazon spending that much money on better working conditions for regular employees... alone the some they gave away for Phobee not delivering anything could have covered production costs for one or two decent indie movies. On the same not, why does amazon even have a movie studio? Amazon music just provides music from established artists, comparable to AppleMusic or Spotify - to my knowledge, amazon does ot (yet) have their own music production line. So why not stick to the same with movies? There are studios and publishers who do not necessarily have their own streaming service, way not ptovide them a platform? I personally don't know any person paying for prime because of the video service or music library - so why even spend money on something that does not even generate new revenues?

[@dankoftinoff8119]

What's so strange is these companies had IP's that I actually liked, LOTR, Willow and League of their Own (Actually really liked that movie) and were able to corrupt and turn them into pure garbage, when the blueprint was already laid out for them, it should have been easy money.

[@mizorenight3851]

Sometimes I just wonder what a world would look like, where big companies like Amazon and Disney don't put millions and billions into one show, but actually just split the budget over like 10 different shows where one could be the virtue signaling one while the others are just plain entertainment over several different genres.

[@scotttimbrell8632]

This is Amazon and Disney tho, even if they split it, it would be 10 dogshite shows whos sole purpose is to tell straight males they suck massive cocks and that weirdo gay freaks and women are the best thing since sliced bread. Our audience is majority males? This is our chance to vent our anger over flawed logic and made up scenarios that either never happened or very small amount of cases ever happened. If I have to listen to another show tell me that I am a bigot who hates women, that all strong men are toxic troglodytes and all women are better than men for the sheer fact they can shake their ass and spawn a child...

[@boatymcboatface666]

Why can't Amazon do another awesome series like The Expanse!!?? That defined Sci fi for the last decade! Awesome ❤

[@PumpernickelBread25]

Or The Boys

[@Pizzpott]

You hit the nail on the head, it is pride and indignancy that has kept the releasing new seasons to Rings of Power.

[@rytlocknroll]

Sadly the “audience” they sought after never existed in the first place. Their delusions of grandeur get the better of them every. Single. Time.

[@Puzzoozoo]

Prid...sorry Prime comes before a fall. 😉

[@TheBigGMan123]

So basically, the CEO got hit where it hurts him the most, His wallet, and that's when he finally decided to do something... seriously, WTF?

[@bobbarclay316]

CEOs are disconnected from real life in America. They rely on graduates of various liberal arts programs, full of leftist nonsense, to tell them what the average American wants and needs from the entertainment industry. They get the purple haired feminists telling them that Mr. and Mrs. middle America love left-wing ideas, or at least they would if we understood our own privilege. Since everyone that gets hired has to be approved by the progressives in the HR department, the CEO ends up thinking that most Americans think like the twits they hired to manage their business. Disney, Target, Bud Light, CMT, MLB, ESPN, and the NFL have all suffered from this apparent disconnect between middle America and progressive ideology.

[@sinjun1973]

I read The Wheel of Time to get ready for the show. I was so disappointed.😞 I didn’t bother with Rings of Power series after that. There was no way they were going to get that right after what I’d just watched…. I have things love/hate relationship with anyone turning books into tv or movies.😡

[@davidbendall7919]

I loved The Wheel Of Time book series. I was thrilled when I heard there was going to be a series on Prime. I planned my premier night. I had my snacks prepared. My phone was off. All my comfort stuff was within reach. The Wheel Of Time wasn't the Wheel Of Time. The characters and story had been changed so much that I felt stunned, angry. I stopped watching when it got to Perrin. I've never had the desire to watch another second. I'm still bitter. Silly, I know, to be upset over a show. I refuse to watch any of Amazon's bastardizations. MTV did it to Shannara. Amazon has done it to WoT and Tolkien. I wish it would stop.😢

[@customsongmaker]

Book 1 is The Eye of the World, and The Eye of The World isn't in the show. Book 2 is The Great Hunt, and The Great Hunt isn't in the show. Book 3 is The Dragon Reborn, and in the show that's just a guy who died 3,000 years ago who ruined the world by not listening to lesbians. They did it to insult you personally, along with all fans, and all men, most women, and all people who have healthy families. They hate themselves, they hate you, and they want you to hate yourself too. So they take your heroes and your inspirations and they corrupt them. If they could, they would literally make a puppet out of Robert Jordan's corpse and make him do a dance in support of castrating children and calling them trans.

[@angelat7957]

LOL, I watched it and actually enjoyed it because I like the concept of magic and world building. Then I realised the fans of the books were so angry, and I bought the first book to understand why. I then proceeded to buy the whole series and I'm still in the process of reading it. But now I hate the show for what they did to Perrin.

[@akeelyaqub2538]

Sad that wheel of time fans didnt fight back as much as Tolkien fans did against this pathetic excuse of a studio. I wish the fandoms from all of the bastardised IPs (which is basically all of them now) could band together against hollywood and their, lets be honest, propaganda, that they try to portray as our beloved IPs.

[@TATZELWURMFORSAKEN]

They never learn, do they?

[@willdegra317]

If you’re woke you cannot be introspective, otherwise you’d realize most of your problems are caused by yourself, as being woke is an opportunity only privileged ppl in rich countries can have

[@Lonovavir]

Amazon learns in reverse.