The Marvels FALLOUT Disney ATTACKS Fans After Failure

The Marvels reviews highlighted several issues with the movie, but now The Marvels has been out for a couple of weeks, it's in trouble. The SAG-AFTRA strike is over so Brie Larson can now talk about the movie, but despite this Disney Marvel isn't getting the results they want with the MCU. This has sparked critical media to cover for The Marvels, coming up with every excuse under the sun. While the Director Nia DaCosta decided to directly attack the fans herself. Is The Marvels worth watching?
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[@Jonathan_Collins]

I am still respecting the strong independent women who told me the movie isn't for me by not watching it.

[@theunknowncommenter725]

Stunning and Brave

[@Dr.Infin8ty3810]

'Put a chick in it and make it lame' looks in the direction 'except for her '

[@independentaquaman7424]

If you still have contact with her, ask her if women who are lesbians are even more stronger and independent for being lesbians than other women. You can add that this is because it's since been found that after SouthPark's Panderverse episode came out, the Marvels quickly removed part of one of their scenes before making the movie available for us to view. Which part was removed? One where Brie's Captain Marvel promotes herself being a lesbian with her alternate reality black version of herself.

[@schnarfschnarf5886]

Are you a 40yo white dude? The group with the most spending power was told to piss off by her and I can't forget that dumb ignorant atuff

[@jeffreyspinner9720]

Bro, the women didn't show up to support this "movie" either, but only the men can do wrong. If a husband is in a forest and he talks to himself, no one else able to hear... is he still wrong?

[@TheOriginal_Unaleska]

I am so tired of men being blamed for female lead movies failing. I AM A FEMALE AND I DIDN'T WATCH IT EITHER! What's their excuse now? I am their target audience and I didn't want to see this trash or any pandering trash. It's insulting to my intelligence.

[@grimnar6725]

Heard it said perfectly the other day. They took a genre made for boys that girls also liked and turned it into a genre for girls that no one likes.

[@odindarkll3706]

You're just a white dude internalized in a female body... Istaphobe! This film wasn't made for you, chud! -some out of touch femnazi

[@MrMuffinTaco]

They've had their excuse for that lined up for years now According to them you're a "gender traitor" and a "closet misogynist" Lovely people, aren't they?

[@dingdongmus]

@@MrMuffinTaco "Internalized Misogyny"

[@multitimmytiger2]

According to them, women can be men too.

[@austinbevis4266]

“There’s super hero fatigue” “it wasn’t made for you” “you’re watching movies wrong” “you’re just racist and misogynistic” they’ll pull out every excuse

[@TraditionalAnglican]

Anything to avoid looking at themselves & asking tough questions like, “Why do we keep shoving this crap down people’s throats instead of just entertaining them?!?

[@austinbevis4266]

@@TraditionalAnglican it’s called cope. It comes from a place of narcissism. It’s like those people who genuinely believe that the reason they are single is because they’re “so attractive people are too nervous to approach them”

[@lordomacron3719]

standard format 1. Lie 2. Deny 3. Deflect 4. Project and it is just too predicatable

[@TeslaKuhn8]

why bother making a fan movie if it doesn't appeal to fans? at this point I feel they're just trashing the stock on purpose. benjamins waiting in the sideline.

[@ehiebert1297]

@@TraditionalAnglican I have been seeing a pattern here. Disney buys Star Wars and destroys it, making the fans mad. Disney buys MCU and destroys it makes the fans mad. Disney just makes a movie and makes the fans mad. From my point of view I think there is something wrong with Disney they should stop trying to make movies.

[@roboninja3194]

She called fans violent. These are the same weirdos who say words are violence and silence is violence.

[@richardcollier1912]

Everything you do can be conscrewed as an endless series of microaggressions. Excuse me, construed. But THE KILLER is a marvelous tutorial on MACRO-aggressions.

[@kamilka-visuals]

And milk is violent as well because it's white! Even vegan oat milk is violent it's white also! And actually everything is microagression. I miss the times where the only one micro thing was microwave oven...

[@Rembreiker_lychec9257]

Brie Larson said it best: It wasn't made for me. This is exactly what they wanted, right? Seeing them fail is more entertaining than the movies could ever be.

[@odindarkll3706]

Look on the bright side: at least you're not a white dude. She has a raging boner over white guys especially with their critiques on A Wrinkle in Time!

[@colorin81colorado]

You are 100% right, the Marvel's was not made for me nor the fans...

[@furtalance_x]

Ur a 40 yr old man for whom a wrinkle in time wasnt made. Goes the same for this movie lol 😂

[@KrolKaz]

She's 100% wrong. These films are for us, just not the way she thinks. It's for us to gawk at and laugh, like the town idiot who can't fetch a bucket of water without messing it up somehow.

[@Gyrfalcon312]

Four+ years on, but I bet Larson still thinks this of men who'd possibly watch _The Marvels_ .

[@constantlyenthused336]

If you say “Nia DaCosta” in a mirror five times mediocrity appears behind you

[@user-hb3fi3vn2w]

I'd rather take Beetlejuice

[@fionnaitsradag5152]

🤣

[@juliebartlett4222]

And it's wearing men's pants pulled up to its ribcage.

[@rachalc3092]

Lol nice

[@crossedwires2629]

🤣

[@goupigoupi6953]

"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made” - J.R.R. Tolkien

[@user-lf3kr1nq2d]

Excellent. 😃

[@tooreal4softassyoutube]

Just like evil never can truly rest, which is why these celebs never retire an why they keep putting out trash films. Whenever they stop, they got to pay the price on the dotted line.

[@cvdm9663]

There are movies from the 70's, 80's and 90's that people continue to re-watch every couple of years. Almost none of the movies made in the last few years has any staying power and will rightly just be forgotten.

[@cristela4034]

Now they make movies for the "modern audience", so they become outdated in a week. Movies should strive to be timeless, not to just be enjoyed in a very specific period of time.

[@lorij3786]

Some from much earlier, Snow White, it’s a wonderful life, white Christmas, holiday inn,, just the first off the top of my head

[@donnafurlotte530]

As a middle aged white cat lady, I'll take the 15 bucks it would cost to see this and donate it to my local humane society to help cats in my town

[@glitterkitty1979]

😂😂😂

[@wezweasel]

You might be on to something, if half the ticket sales went to local shelters within the county the theaters are in, I may go see the movie, I've walked out of films before, but they still got my cash.

[@JB-yb4wn]

There you go! Money well spent!

[@thanatoast4389]

Brilliant

[@Br0130]

Youre on the correct pth maam

[@sonofzorro1]

"Adolescent fan boys" is literally the primary super hero movie audience.

[@viscountrainbows2857]

I wanna know how so many of these studio heads and media outlets came to the conclusion that insulting the paypigs and expecting to cash out is a viable business strategy. Biting the hand that feeds, more like they chomped off the entire limb and expect to get more later.

[@Shanard242]

But we gotta have diversity what about the 7-10 percent of adolescent girls (at best) who wants to see a woman lead movie production 😂

[@jericslater889]

It’s insane insulting your OWN costumers…. This happens when you ignore reality and act like a sect with a fanatic ideology.

[@richardcollier1912]

What's wrong with the movie's COSTUMERS? Those COSTUMES were the bomb. No pun intended.

[@dodgephonesly1083]

Costumers?

[@Inastewpopotogo]

If I insulted a customer for any reason, I would be fired that very same day

[@ninawhiskers87]

My daughter and her friend wanted to see this. Sitting through this endless "you go girl!" "Girl Boss Biotch!" theme was so painful. Thankfully my son having to go pee in the middle was a sweet respite but unfortunately too short. The awkwardly forced attempts of emotional conflict was painful. Even the girls complained about the movie being too long 😂

[@jacob-the-awsome-autist]

😂

[@YuriBez2023]

This movie wasn't made for me. So I didn't go. I didn't go twice, just to be sure.

[@JB-yb4wn]

I think you shouldn't go again, just to make doubly sure.

[@erichtomanek4739]

Don't go Thrice, since Thrice is a word not oft used.

[@happyguy0105]

How to work in Hollywood: 1. Make rEpReSeNtATiVe movie 2. Attacks fans 3. Watch as movie massively flops 4. Attacks fans more 5. Wonders why no one is even watching it not mentioning paying to see it 6. Attacks fans even more

[@JB-yb4wn]

Who finances this dreck and why?

[@darthlaurel]

Also call characters who represent the religion of peace "south Asian" and pretend like people are racist against a theoretical "racial" category they've never even heard of.

[@thesaltyweeb]

Seems like attacking fans give them some hope that they'll watch this dumpsterfire of a movie. Let them yell, it'll never work.

[@xiiirob]

You forgot 7) fail upward, and get hired AGAIN, just to do steps 1-4 even more because this time it will work!!!!111!11!eleven

[@crackedwindowproductions]

7) sweep it under the rug and pretend it never happened.

[@grandwazoo4283]

I see no toxic anger. There is only mocking, laughing about it and apathy.

[@acegardianarocrat]

and sadness about what the MCU could've been if they'd taken stuff slowly with care and passion.... i've seen fans come up with brilliant ways to fix the shitty content mcu has been putting out. Literally just hire the fans!

[@Mereologist]

When they couldn't 'see themselves' in the movie, everything needed to be changed so their surrogates would be present and always powerful and always right. Now that I can't 'see myself' in the movie, I'm supposed to just shut up and watch it anyway even though it wasn't 'made for me'. Equality!

[@mihmo2663]

I’m a 40 year old divorced woman with 6 cats. I will never see this movie.

[@kennyhudson9201]

Why though? I thought it was going to suck, but I actually watched it and it wasn't bad.

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

Me personally, (an elderly woman at this point with no cats), am completely fed up of superhero movies. I don't follow, and I don't care. I will watch a drama or a well-made horror once in a while, maybe some reality-style episodes of Catfish and Project Runway, and loads of true-crime trials and commentary on KZbin. For free. @@kennyhudson9201

[@mihmo2663]

@@kennyhudson9201 Because everything that came out after Endgame felt like it was written by a 12 year old. Spider-man was ok, but everything else made me cringe. I cancelled my Disney+ after Moon Knight.

[@kennyhudson9201]

@@mihmo2663 Well, it was actually a good movie. And Loki was actually good too.

[@helmut3356]

40 is ok. Wait after 50+

[@MrsMacLover]

Nia DaCosta to fans "You're istophobes!" Fans "Oh no! Anyway..."

[@JB-yb4wn]

Yeah we all wear long white robes, carry confederate flags and sing "Dixie".

[@multitimmytiger2]

If an istophobe is someone with no interest in seeing the marvels, then I guess I am one.

[@eduardoarancibia169]

I'm quite sure that istophobe is not the right word for "We don't care"

[@yuankun99]

The actors and actress involved in these movies have got to stop attacking fans saying they're toxic. They've got to stop taking the bait by reporters when asked how do they feel about toxic fans. Another one to fall for this was Iman Vellani who blamed the fans calling them toxic. The fans are the people who made it possible for you to even got this job. Blame Marvel, they're the ones destroying every source material they can find.

[@ValladaresJ0]

"its not your job to force an opinion on them" 100% bullseye.

[@luthasunspell8365]

Southpark forgot to add a line for Kennedy ordering press releases after a pander-project: “Call them racist and sexist and lame!”

[@user-fg5qu4lf3b]

Put Brie Larson and Rachel Zegler in the same Marvel movie and see what happens.

[@Lostouille]

You put 2 massive egos in one point ? Bro you re going to compress to much matter. It will end up in black hole who'll suck the hole plot.

[@SammEater]

At least Rachel has nice legs... just saying.

[@Viva15thBrigada]

I might pay to watch them in Dumb and Dumber.

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

These type of movie will be dumped on Netflix and some other streaming service nowadays. @@Viva15thBrigada

[@KomboEzaliTe]

@@Viva15thBrigada The all-female reboot that might actually work. They don't even need a script.

[@PracticalBibleStudies]

Disney attacked fans when they decided girl power and diversity was more important than making a good movie.

[@lp4725]

I don't remember asking for this movie to be made so don't blame me, Disney.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

I went to business college and this was the first thing they taught us. If consumers don't like your product, won't buy it and even make fun of it, turn things right around by insulting and belittling them rather than examining your marketing decisions. You have to tell those idiots who's boss in this deal!

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

I liked your comment because I could feel the sarcasm loud and clear.

[@BridgetStuart]

lol that is awesome

[@TeslaKuhn8]

"Now give me all the money!" (smacks them with a loaf of bread)

[@nazsheikh5006]

Don't blame the fans, You made it, live with it

[@cinifiend]

All of these woke disasters follow the same cycle of race/gender swapping characters, disrespecting the source material, focusing more on political issues instead of the story, bombing at the box office and then finally with the production crew attacking and blaming the fans.

[@scottcarter8155]

They have shown total disrespect for the fans that made Marvel what it was.

[@danpatterson8009]

In their rush to "diversity", industry has taken the easy path of tokenism. This has attracted ambitious narcissists of the desired phenotype who are no longer filtered out by the need to perform, and who reflexively deflect any criticism outwards as the imagined deficiencies of others. Talent needs no excuses, makes no accusations, and is content to be judged on its merit.

[@Desertdragon1]

So let me get this straight. She says the movie wasn't written for men but blames men for it's complete failure. If that's true...does that mean men have the power to destroy her films?

[@juliebartlett4222]

As the Yas Queen Slay of all women, Hillary Clinton, once said: "I should be president because it is MY turn." It doesn't matter what you want, nor does it matter that it's your power she's using; it is HER turn when she says it is. Now sit down and give up your money, attention, and approval; it's NIA'S turn.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

Of course we do. In general women only have rights and jobs because men let them. You know cause we could just...theoretically....you know whenever we want....put a stop to that. Dont tell them that though, it pisses them off.

[@anno5936]

Nah, wasn't men destroying it; they perfectly executed it themselves

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

They dont realize they are saying men have enourmous power

[@paulheinl9684]

​​@TheSuperappelflap 🤣🤣🤣 I didn't even think of, genius dear sir, that is so true. The director: "We didn't make this movie for men, f**k them misogynistic pigs!" Producers to the director after opening weekend: "Your movie is a huge.......flop, what do you have to say about that? " Director's answer: "It's the men's fault!!!" Right........

[@ShooterMcgavin119]

This is what gets me. They HATE on us for not liking their stuff, call us every name in the book, but where are the millions that want this stuff? Where are their supporters? Why are they failing? Why are they not making a successful movie? NOBODY wants what they're selling. It's easy proof that it's NOT because of istaphobia

[@jeffreyvandenabeel9400]

Yes it is...... biggot, how can you not care about 3 Marry-sue's that didn't need to earn there power and are better then you in every way, shame on you for not watching a movie made by the people that told you you're the problem, shame is tell you

[@DeadlyPlatypus]

Things don't fail because people hate them, they fail because no one likes them.

[@Likexner]

I AM the istaphobia!

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

My words!!! Where are all women for whom this movie is made? Seems like they support this movie only with their keyboards on Twitter. And if all of them did go see it,then we have proof they are a small portion of the audience,since they helped this movie raise only like 150mil.globally

[@Blodhelm]

@@svetlanaandrasova6086 LoL when Disparu showed Steven King shaming people for not going to see it to score points with those people, but admitted he didn't watch it either.

[@LiveFreeOrDie2A]

They never stop to consider why people would be “fatigued” of superheroes or the MCU.. it’s just a coincidence that this fatigue happened the same time EVERY superhero and MCU movie starring Mary Sue girl bosses

[@TraditionalAnglican]

And “girl-bosses” who are one-dimensional characters who we could never think of liking or cheering for!

[@NotoriousNickNorris]

Marty-sues suck just as much. We respect characters that actually grow as people. None of the MSheU characters or even Rey Palpatine earned their endings.

[@shaitanlavey]

It's hilarious. We keep telling Disney we won't pay to see woke trash films BEFORE they make them and then when they do it anyway and it flops at the box office suddenly it's OUR fault for not paying to see it.

[@aguywhocanfly1335]

Hollywood: This is for women! Also Hollywood: Why aren't those evil men watching my movie?!?

[@Rreka240]

More Men seen it than the women though still, that’s the funny part.

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

My reply: because it is not compulsory and people can choose.

[@Blodhelm]

@@LisaSimpsonRules "My body, my choice and my body ain't going anywhere near that trash." - Female audiences.

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

I've always been pro-choice in all fields of life, LOL! Can't disagree with you there!@@Blodhelm

[@RayTX1337]

I love the logic. "We are not making money because the fans are evil, we should insult them!"

[@songxuefei5730]

When you attack the people you need to pay to see your movie all i can say is Good Luck with your franchise and careers

[@kierathunder1004]

The same people who complain about beauty stereotypes and unrealistic standards towards women then make these obnoxiously powerful and completely perfect female leads that almost never face a hardship in their life. They create exactly what they claim to be against.

[@ice_fox]

They are, and have long been, professional projectors.

[@ajtame]

We are all racist and sexist for hating this movie, its a masterpiece. I trust no sarcasm tag is needed.

[@JB-yb4wn]

No, but someone should really invent a sarcasm font.

[@bensonofthunder9229]

You know, I find it offensive for Marvel to say the fans are the problem. That would imply this movie has fans!😂

[@davidgantenbein9362]

I don’t think that current year MCU has any fans. What they call „fans“ is just the audience that loved phase 1-3 and has since then left.

[@bensonofthunder9229]

@davidgantenbein9362 This is why you don't make the movie that only the director wants to see.

[@bl8388]

It's that elite leftism that says we should accept their view of art. We should praise it. And we should spend our own money on it. Otherwise the aristocracy scolds us.

[@uglybetty8747]

Lmaooooo savageee

[@pfc_church]

I liked the movie. It was fun. I liked the kamala character.

[@nickdirienzo2849]

I remember seeing a movie and it sticking with me for days, even weeks afterwards! Feeling like my life had been changed, even if it was only temporary.

[@lonniemonroe2714]

Titanic

[@tch2296]

This channel is like the final boss of Disney Roast channels. I started with the critical drinker and ended up here. Might have the coldest roast game I've seen in this wonderful corner of KZbin

[@GIBBO4182]

If only women were represented in the audience…the vast majority of them simply don’t care!

[@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi]

Most female Marvel fans back in the day weren't crying our for more women. They wanted more shirtless chris hemsworth & chris evans and tighter spandex for them to wear. I still am in awe of the cluelessness of the execs at Disney/Marvel to not have realized this

[@kkcombs622]

Right, 60% of the audience was men apparently.

[@bandgeekforlife406]

@@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi I recognize that those fans exist, but personally I wanted less "fan-service" and better quality writing 🤷‍♀

[@steveouk90126]

Back in 2005 I was on a comics chat board and women were griping that there were "no" female-led superhero movies. _Elektra_ was literally in the cinemas when that topic came up and I referred them to it, only to get slapped down with "that doesn't count!" because it wasn't a runaway success like Superman or Batman before it. When I asked "How many times have you all paid to see it?" I got a bunch of "that's not the point" responses.

[@dragonsman4733]

​​@@steveouk90126 tbf I saw a lot of male fans clammouring for a female led superhero film too (some just for the fanservice if you know what I mean) purely because it would bring some more uniqueness to the MCU and DCs characters/film arrangements, as the female characters that were introduced had the same personalities as pretty much all the girls in the comics. obviously once they did with captain Marvel, both ended up hating it, and most mainly because they thought Black widow should've had one so that she'd play some significance in the inifinity saga lineup.

[@catrie9965]

The thing that always irked me, is that Brie Lawson said that A Wrinkle in Time wasn't for a 40 yr old man. But it was, because the book was published in 1962. I'm a 48 yr old woman and read that book growing up. So, yes, the book was for that 40 yr old man who grew up on it. That she was then upset because that same man was complaining about the poor treatment a beloved book he grew up on still astounds me. This is only one reason why I don't like her. I didn't like Captain Marvel as she was one dimensional who only thought a "strong" woman meant physically. Why would I want to spend my money on a movie that featured a character I hated and 2 I barely know? It doesn't make sense.

[@kathyp1563]

Her attitude when speaking about criticism of "A wrinkle.." was akin to a momma saying "Don't give me no lip!" She's not our momma. It's simply not her place to reprimand us for having an opinion different than hers.

[@Iam-still-noone]

🤔 - good movies with good stories an good characters will be liked by everyone it dont matter what u look like or ur age - it only the bad written movies where certain groups get blamed 4 it failing -

[@christophersmith8316]

Two out of the three protagonists of the book are male. Now, being normal, I never noticed that fact as it was about individual kids, boys and girls and not an political pressure group.

[@lmahu6627]

@@christophersmith8316 And now we can't have characters be individuals anymore. They must all be a representative of some minority nowadays, because modern-day writers and execs think minorities are too insecure of their identities.

[@jamesbaron8387]

Shes super arrogant but without the talent to earn being that arrogant

[@teddyspencer6969]

What i like about youtube (many things i don't like) is that this kind of analysis is absolutely impossible on tv.

[@szalaypeter3810]

Not even the director turned up to watch her own movie. The absolute low.

[@Kal-El-tq7lk]

It's wild that they try to blame "sexist men" for The Marvels failure, meanwhile more men went out to see "powerful women" than women. These people are entirely delusional.

[@jerk1921]

Its propaganda; their masters knew it was all lies when they ordered their minions to think that way. Only half of these people are drinking the cool-aid, the other half knows its bull$hit and still pushes it on you.

[@rhetorical1488]

It takes effort to hate. The women are making an extraordinary effort to hate the male audience. The men can simply choose not to care.... and cold indifference to a woman's opinion is utterly devastating to ego.

[@carljohan9265]

There are hundreds of anime with multiple strong female characters that have a huge male fanbase. A trend among them is that the male characters aren't disrespected for the sake of artificially elevating the female characters.

[@AdamWeisshaupt]

She forgot something to mention. Her movies were better watched than the movies of other nations. That would also fit in the narrative: The people are all MAGA-nationalist, because my movies were watched more than the movies of Non-Americans.

[@pareshpadhi2454]

Literally all 3 female characters in the marvels movie (even the female antagonist) got their powers accidentally, and didn't earn the power. They didn't take efforts and hard work to learn to polish their strength. What makes these characters strong, just their power? Then surely Ironman is no one compared to she hulk! Tony stark showed how intelligent and fidgety he was in his movies. In each movies he was shown working hard to get better and better in each of his innovations. These characters did no such thing. They even tried to do the same halfway with iron maiden or whatever in the black panther movie, but ducked up halfway by getting shuri lend her a lab to get her shit together. To be fair, even the new spider man movies also did the same, which I didn't like either.

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

Funny how nobody called audience sexist and homophobic when Flash and Indiana Jones 5 and Shazam 2 and Fast X flopped. Also. Where is the target audience - women? Why are they supporting the movie only on social media but not with their wallets?

[@richtes]

Think they did sexist for Indy 5 since he was replaced by a strong unattractive powerful woman

[@jeffreyvandenabeel9400]

​@@richteswho was better at everything Indi ever was, and took a sht on his legacy..... So fun to watch your childhood hero getting belittled

[@jaylenwilliams8271]

Nobody was sexist when people were dawgin on ghost rider

[@infinitydreamzz]

​@@richtesone of the best scenes in cinematic history is when that said woman knocked down unconscious Indiana Jones with a strong sucker punch for his own good and when he woke up old and confused she was gloating on her wisdom. What an amazing way to send a cinematic hero played by an iconic actor to retirement! These people really respect men and masculinity, so I have no idea why their movies flop so hard

[@SirBlackReeds]

Wasn't Fast X a modest success?

[@arthurbrax6561]

my vengeance is only beginning. this is for marvel and star wars. Disney, you will lose everything

[@Weissman111]

DaCosta wasn't chosen for he talent - she ticked the right boxes on a DEI spreadsheet. Must be a bit disheartening to know that this is why you got the job.

[@Wien1938]

I have a feeling that NdC was one of the "new" female directors being talked up five or six years ago. YT commentators kept questioning this and pointing out that she had an undistinguished record.

[@TheSnakehunter]

That's assuming she even cares that she was only hired for DEI. Activists don't care that they were hired as the right person for the job, they just care that they were hired at all and are going to be allowed to push their personal politics and Feminist ideology.

[@IntheCourtoftheCrimsonKing]

But but Disparu, she a 8lack lesbian woman. How can't she be the most qualified director on the planet?

[@juliebartlett4222]

Because she's not also trans and doesn't have fibromyalgia and vitiligo.

[@vladimirspoutine1264]

"The movie bombed because our fans didn't buy tickets!!!" Well...um...yeah. That's how it works.

[@AH6man]

Last time I saw a big wig attack the fans it was one of the largest corporate boycotts in my lifetime. Bud light still reeling from it.

[@bv_7766]

The completely toxic response from the director and loony “fans” I think actually made it do worse the second week than it was going to. These people haven’t seemed to grasp that going out and yelling at the fans and calling them names for not seeing your movie, isn’t going to make them see your movie, and anyone that hasn’t seen it yet and was thinking they might, you just turned off from seeing it by being a dick…

[@soulechelon2643]

what in the world happened to Stephen King? Seems every time I hear about him nowadays he's being a hypocrite on social media.

[@marychocolatefairy]

King: "I've never watched MCU movies and don't follow them, but why are people so happy this all female superhero movie flopped?" Gets legit answers about Disney's fan blaming and declining quality. Those were not the answers he wanted. King: "I feel as though all the haters of The Marvels must be doing it from misogynism!"

[@angfour9684]

I always think that Stephen King sure talks a lot of shit for someone who wrote a scene about underage children having a gangbang.

[@juliebartlett4222]

We're talking about a man who wrote a book in which a bunch of minor boys graphically do "locomotion" on a little girl and portrayed it as a good thing. He hasn't changed since then.

[@Hiccuple]

Maybe he gets a ghost writer to do his social media as well

[@daisukeakihito9832]

Disney blaming fans with -isms after their shitty product fails to deliver... Wooow... I'm surprised. In other news. Sky is blue and we are all breathing air.

[@glitterkitty1979]

😂😂😂😂

[@AJsMillions]

Shocking development. A character in this movie claims to see... Light.

[@npenick66]

Apparently it didn't matter if she showed up for work because someone else must have been doing the job (poorly). That's what happens when you hire check boxes instead of talent and experience.

[@G30MaN27]

I ALMOST went and saw it in theater just as an excuse to finally go and eat some movie theater popcorn, but i couldnt bring myself to do it 😂😂😂

[@tolkienist7905]

For a bunch of people who literally go on about entitlement, they do feel a whole lot entitled to my cash. To the point of calling me a sexist and a racist if they don't have constant access to it.

[@AdamWeisshaupt]

You are also a nationalist because the movies from other countries are even watched less than Nia DaCostas movies. (Sarcasm)

[@LisaSimpsonRules]

That's a very good point. Like the "Imagine" song sung by millionaires in their mansions, everything reeks of delusional entitlement.

[@random.3665]

...Which is especially ironic given that they tell us that those movies "aren't made for us" (men, i suppose). So they get offended when you dont buy a product that they themselfs claim isnt for you. The mental gymnastics of these people is olympia level.

[@AdamWeisshaupt]

@@random.3665 Well said. They also say. You have to see yourself in movies (your identity). After the movie fails they say the opposite: identity is not important. Men can see themselves in women and women can see themselves in men. Please watch our movies.

[@bl8388]

And the least interested in Sci-fi girl boss movies is women.

[@gunstargizmo]

I'll feel bad for these cats when they have to explain this film to their kids.

[@michaelharig6506]

Kudos!!! That was one of the best comprehensive brilliant youtube videos I’ve seen that makes the point Hollywood does not want to acknowledge….

[@michaelpiper8198]

what was that about it being weird that a director left a $250 million movie with a few months to go? It got blanked out for me.

[@sarkastodon30]

Reporter: How long will you play Captain Marvel? Brie: I dunno. Does anyone want me to do it again? Audience in 2023: No

[@Hiccuple]

They recast Rhoadie. I don't see why they can't do it again with Larson. Let her enjoy the direct to DVD days of her career.

[@UltraFlea]

If ppl are still watching and re-watching stuff like Buffy, Bones, Rissoli and Isles, Aliens, Xena, Charmed why do we hate female characters again? They will die and be homeless before they admit they are bad writers...heck they would probably blame being homeless on misogynistic men then.

[@andrewbailey7045]

Or SG1. Or the X files. Or Kill Bill. Or terminator. Or literally every horror movie (elm street, Halloween, etc etc) with a triumphant final girl. I could list a hundred of them. They all did fine because none of those movies or shows thought you had to hate men, particularly white men, to be a strong woman. As a result, men liked them and the strong women in them. In fact, I'd wager most of our first crushes were on exactly those women. They can't be this stupid. They know what the problem is. They just think that if they repeat the message enough people will believe it. Their propaganda has never really failed before and they don't know how to do anything else.

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

Of course they would. If you are a feminist everything is the fault of the patriarchy.

[@PChazman1]

I could live with that.😂😂😂😂

[@Theinen84]

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS?!? No. Seriously!!! The fact that stuff like Charmed and PowerPuff Girls have been remade to be more inclusive and more "girl power" is absolutely bafflingly insulting. Wtf could you add to Charmed to take it more in that direction than it already was?!?

[@UltraFlea]

@@Theinen84 ahhh you just reminded me of the power puff remake lol... the Charlie's Angels remake was bad enough lol

[@Jorasaurus]

Just because they made something doesn't mean people HAVE to like it. And here they are blaming other people for them making something that is objectively not good.

[@RoyaltyJupiter]

I’ve honestly all but stopped watching any superhero movies or book/game adaptations, I’m so tired of these directors and producers taking established franchises and changing the characters by race swapping or completely changing their personalities/sexuality to fit their woke quotas instead of hiring people who look like the established characters and can act well. It’s just not worth wasting my money to be disappointed in stories I grew up on and characters I love anymore.

[@lonniemonroe2714]

True words were never spoken. I tolerated the black Nick Fury. In the books he was a white vet who ran sheild. Never did & still don't care for black Nick Fury. DEI hire. Not racist..just wish they would leave characters established rolls alone. I been into comics since 5th grade. I'm 66 now. I bought Luke Cage. Black Panther. Captain America & Falcon. Good stories made good books. Still got em. Along with a slew of others. May be time to start selling them. I'm getting old.

[@f-empire-8]

Isn't it ironic that they're making it about race by trying to be super diverse.. then calling people racist for not caring, it's a massive gaslight.

[@joshuageorge80]

You have a point there, they're spinning 2 opposing ideas simultaneously. Either it doesn't matter what your gender and race is, or it totally does and makes all the difference... Which is it, Hollywood?

[@matthewmosier8439]

​​@@joshuageorge80"Which is it commie subversives?" This is all political.

[@blackleague212]

@@joshuageorge80smh Harvey Weinstein had many people helping him be a perv. These people in Hollywood are so scared that they are burning all the money they saved.

[@timpavloff1567]

They don't even have the ground to blame their customers. We took their advice "if you don't like it, don't buy it", it's their fault for turning on the majority of the fans. Nobody wants to pay to be constantly insulted?

[@Tony-5000]

Why aren't they angry at women for not going to see a movie made by women for women???

[@jpnelson7791]

Hey, Disparu, you are in my Core 4 of KZbin reviewers. Keep up your great work and energy. As usual, you speak right out of my own mindset.

[@videomaniac108]

This reminds me of the recent Netflix bomb, Cleopatra. It's so much easier to blame the audience than accept responsibility for one's mistakes.

[@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ]

She’s a perfect example for other young black women who want to be filmmakers. That is, a perfect example of how not to be.

[@danpatterson8009]

I've only known one personally, and while she was smart and talented, she was way too confident in her ability to manipulate others and "talk my way out of it'. This woman reminded me of her.

[@Satch_4_Hogs]

I am a 40 year old white dude. I didn’t go watch The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants either. That movie was also not made for me.

[@douglaslindeman797]

Charlie's Angels (TV show), Golden Girls, and Designing Women all did very well. Why? Because of the quality of the show. Great writing, great direction, great casting... Tah Dah. Female led success stories are possible if we put the "WOKE" BS behind us.

[@NotoriousNickNorris]

Golden Girls fan here. Straight white male that watched that and many more female led shows with zero sexual depravity. I watched because it was GOOD!

[@erichtomanek4739]

What all movies should be: Well Written, Well Acted and Not Woke.

[@kucingnumpakalphardasli8178]

In other words, "Entertaining"

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

It they were well written then they wouldn't be woke.

[@dothegandalf4205]

Go woke Go broke!😂🤣😂

[@MichaelAussie05]

A brilliantly researched and laid out opinion thanks D for your time and efforts on interesting and entertaining article. Cheers.

[@joey5745]

I'm black didn't know the director was black, I didn't have any interest in seeing a heroine with absolutely zero struggles in life. With literally nothing to overcome,

[@AliceBowie]

The Director leaving reminds me of when i was at work on the busiest day of the year, and the manager got flustered and said "I'm going home, you guys figure it out", at like 2pm. The rest of us were like "did she just quit? What is going on?"

[@Guardsmen4]

people i work with to this almost everyday

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yes, that sounds accurate, lol. Earlier in the process, the director was quoted as saying (to Entertainment Weekly) that she had more freedom on The Marvels than anything she'd done before. Then after it's clear the movie is a mess, all of a sudden she acts like she's not in charge.

[@Mangolorian-je3eo]

Hint: If NOBODY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD likes what you've made, you can't point at ANY subset of them and say it was their fault. The blame narratives don't work anymore.

[@above.average.gaming.natio3026]

Actually Black people have failed this movie as they didn't support it a Black Femaie Director made film with one of the lead leads also being black.

[@ShooterMcgavin119]

Nobody failed this movie, this movie failed us.

[@RealSkoolmaster]

@@above.average.gaming.natio3026 Oh yeah. Thats GOTTA be it. 41.6 million people. So, at an average ticket price of 20 bucks (which is high) were they expecting a full HALF of the black US population to go see it? This is a hypothesis contrary to fact. That being said, I am pretty sure I just fed a troll a snack, so enjoy!

[@Sekir80]

@@RealSkoolmaster Maybe you fed a troll, but I still waiting for an explanation: who this movie was made for? If Hollywood is so all about representation, maybe alienating half of the population surely isn't a good plan. Don't get me wrong: I have no problem with women led movies (Arrival, for example), I have no problem with black people led movies (Beverly Hills Cop, for example), but the movie has to be good in the first place. Look around in any movie rating site you will mostly find shit movies and a lot will feature white cast. Films aren't shit because the people's gender or color in it, the films are shit because they lacked care and love - and sometimes budget, but I can list extremely low budget films being cult classics. This become an unnecessarily long comment. Sorry.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

The blame narrative was never a good one as we live in a free market and are by definition free to not buy a product. We are in no way obligated to watch a movie and it’s the studios job to convince us. To blame the audience just shows a fundamental lack of understanding how a free market works.

[@kamilka-visuals]

Thank you, that was brilliant. A also enjoyed your other series of reviews Robyn - or whatever this show's called, I just can't wait to new episode being released, to be able to listen to your 'hate speach' rants. You always make my day! Greatest entertainment EVER!

[@kinabalucat]

its irony for stephen king to defend the movie he didnt even watch

[@veronicab15]

This is what happens when you hire people for woke points instead of competency. When you value yes men over people with a spine. When you prefer echo chambers.

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

They seem pretty happy to go on and do it all over again and again and again and again so they must enjoy it?

[@user-hb3fi3vn2w]

"yes men?" I find that offensive. These are strong, independent yes women! Lol

[@zt7044]

I'm going to add unnecessarily rich and then totally agree with you. Asking rich people to "inspire" the poor is rhe same as asking a stiker to direct a PETA campaign

[@Mereologist]

As someone pointed out, they're not hiring employees to do a job... they're CASTING them to fill a role. No rational person would expect this director - and most of her staff - to accomplish anything meaningful other than virtue signalling. And virtue signalling they did. As such, the hiring was successful for what it was intended to accomplish.

[@samblack5313]

‘Yasss’ waHmen

[@MovieGasm]

One thing Disney needs to remember. The customer is always right.

[@sinamy]

In matters of taste.

[@ashroskell]

I feel sorry for Iman Vellani. From all the reviews I’ve seen, she was the best thing about the film. Not seen it, so I don’t know for sure, but people seem to be worried that her career will be damaged by her association with it.

[@antman7673]

Disney could even push an Agenda and people would accept it. -They just overplay their hands. -those movies apart from CGI are trash.

[@joshbignell8891]

Disney forgot this a very long time ago

[@carlburton]

Disney don't care about how the customer feels, they have IP they have to keep using in order to keep their copyright.

[@bloodrunsclear]

'I'm not questioning your integrity. I'm denying its existence.' - Tyrion Lannister, Game of Thrones

[@chadrainternational7777]

Disparu I love that line you used " If the Patriarchy is the reason movies are failing, why not start making movies for the Patriarchy?" Just shows how stone headed they are (Disney) that they can not see the illogical words in what they are saying and what they are doing!

[@Carnax6969]

I love when these people in their echo chambers finally encounters walls that don't reflect their sound. People like Bree, Rachel, Nia need to realise that playing the bad bitch only works when you're too valuable to let go or when the public loves you too much that you've become untouchable.

[@JasonlaroseLaRose]

I only made it half way thru the video, mate. Watching you beat a dead horse into pudding was just too much.

[@thanatoast4389]

I dig that saying

[@tomwhite5868]

It's because their ego is fed too much by those who are hiring them, when in reality it's just a box ticking exercise for the hiring team. They'll say how great they are, how they love their work, and it probably continues all the way through production - even if things are going wrong, or if they're not doing their job properly - because nobody would dare speak out against certain demographics once they've been given the job. Then, when the backlash inevitably happens, they can't work out why people don't like them, then they cry racism/homophobia to decry the valid criticism. It's modern Hollywood, rotten to the core.

[@laurocoman]

It's also a display of inmaturity. Look at Rachel Zagler's attitude opposite to Gal Gadot's. Paying "the bad bitch" is for children.

[@KrolKaz]

Brie and Co. complain about privilege while being part of a class of people that are in the top 1% of privileged people to ever exist.

[@donavandwelch]

I've been happily watching reviews of Disney. I won't watch anything they make, but I derive endless joy all the great reviews of the Disney implosion.

[@neoware9030]

The Marvels: a movie so bad that makes Catwoman, Green Lantern, Batman & Robin, Black Adam, Spiderman 3, WonderWoman 1984 and Morbius looks like actual good superhero movies.

[@Hiccuple]

It made me miss the days of Elektra.

[@Ghostalking]

Marvel googled “black movie director” and just picked the first name they saw

[@UncensoredScion]

I'm still shocked by that advertising they did with cats. Though the cat lady target audience was appropriate they've rejected it too.

[@johnbernhardtsen3008]

the writers must have thought the saying from the showrunners of She-Hulk was amazing, "It wasnt made for the fans!"

[@SamtheBravesFan]

I love cats, but that was a incredibly insipid thing to do.

[@StickySyrupEverywhere]

Cat-ladies don't go to movies. They stay home, with their cats.

[@dragonsman4733]

I thought that it was real for a few moments, due to the animal verse of the multiverse, but unfortunately dissapointing. Would've taken a movie about the cats over the marvels any day.

[@NefariousKoel]

Those promo streams/vids are surreal, coming from such a high budget company. They come across as parody. As if it's subtly mocking cat-ladies whom they hope to draw to the theater. We've been living in Clown-iverse for years. Take me back to before the split, I want to take a different path of reality.

[@howardgstrecke]

The biggest enemy of diversity is incompetence. It's hard to make an action movie when you've never been involved with the genre

[@KaleRylan]

Sad but true. It frustrates me because as a comic reader in the 90s, I was a fairly big fan of carol danvers. X-men and Iron Man are my comics of choice and she was a pretty constant supporting character in both properties and generally a welcome presence. I was happy to see her rising star in the early 00s and 10s and actually quite excited for her to get a film The way she's been handled in the films, in the marketing, and in the comics since the films happened, has largely turned me off the character. She's not dead to me and can be fun on occasion, but I worry every time she shows up in anything that it's just going to be worse because she's there now.

[@unclecreepy4324]

Sounds like the current government administration.

[@Blisterdude123]

I see a lot of people keep calling out the thing about the director leaving during post-production but like, that to me just feels entirely normal when you understand how Disney films are made. Disney films are a factory line production, the system is entirely automated. Having a director at all is basically just a formality, they don't even really 'need' to be there. The production takes care of itself. And that, to me, not DaCosta leaving to make another movie, is the most damning indictment of all.

[@KaleRylan]

@@Blisterdude123 I think this is simultaneously true and not. While there's definitely some major truth to what you're saying, it's also true that a lot of the best MCU movies are clearly in large part the products of their specific directors. The Guardians of the Galaxy, Winter Soldier, Black Panther. I think the directors CAN matter for MCU films, but they have to have enough skill, vision, or whatever you want to call it to put their stamp on the product DESPITE the factory line nature of it. I think a lot of directors, whether because they're not as skilled or they're overwhelmed, get chewed up and spit out by the assembly line.

[@interestedparty00]

Blisterdude, what planet are you living on? Movies are made automatically without humans making decisions???? Wut?

[@Fayt540]

Weird that Larson would get upset over not caring what men have to say about a movie regarding women, but get offended when people say they don't care about the preachy messages they put in fans' movie about comic book characters. Yet Marvel wonders why they're failing..

[@yuankun99]

One of the things that I hate about female super hero movies is that how the action fight scenes look poorly done and unrealistic. Men always loses to women, and that's not even the issue, the issue is that the scenes feels fake cause during the whole fight no man can even punch the women on their face. Not that I want to, but it looks fake when a villain male can't hit a single punch in the hero woman and she can hit his face many times. Sounds not believable, specially because a bad guy would do whatever it takes to defeat the hero, so why wouldn't he punch a woman on the face? He would.

[@ugglorimossen]

Ok I went too deep into this but did some research on IMBD and checked all Directors' previous experience (Director, Actor & Producer) prior to their first Marvel movie. I am not going to list all directors' stats here, but these are some descriptive numbers: Average Debuting Marvel Director has: - Directed 9 projects prior to Marvel debut - Acted in 8 projects prior to Marvel debut - Produced 6 projects prior to Marvel debut - 17 years of experience in the business Median Debuting Marvel Director has: - Directed 10 projects prior to Marvel debut - Acted in 0 projects prior to Marvel debut - Produced 6 projects prior to Marvel debut - 17 years of experience in the business Nia DaCosta has (according to IMDB): - Directed 0 projects prior to Marvel debut - Acted in 0 projects prior to Marvel debut - Produced 3 projects prior to Marvel debut - 10 years of experience in the business (has she only done 3 projects in 10 years?) I could have included Writing, but most directors had so many writing credits, so that would take too long to go through.

[@absolutechaos13]

Out of curiosity, who skewed the acting average?

[@ugglorimossen]

@@absolutechaos13 Jon Favreau and Kenneth Branagh. Keep in mind that I didn’t care about how big the movie/series/role was. Just counted them up equally. So not super robust. Also, IMDB had some weird filmography. For instance, Taika Waititi has no Actor credits, but I know that he has done stuff, but I didn’t include those actor roles I know he has had because I don’t know enough about other Directors to make the same judgement.

[@bailysawyer804]

It’s funny how representation has become a headliner. Idk but if I was underrepresented I’d wanna star in a movie that’s actually good instead of a pity party

[@FOF275]

I can't wait for the day when Disney starts making $200k on $400m movies and yet still insults the audience that is long gone by then

[@reachforthesky1576]

You are really entertaining. Such an excellent channel.

[@heikira438]

I'm so shocked. It's not like they pull this card every time

[@dirdib69]

Agree completely. This is a business, not a college theatre project.

[@paladin56]

I wonder why Disney thinks that producing a product which is, specifically, NOT made for its fan base is a good idea.

[@taliesinhalliday]

when your product fails to sell, blame the customer. (the mantra of the entitled).

[@picies2020]

You are 100% correct... I don't hate the movie or want it to fail or succeed.. I honestly, truthfully, sincerely do not care.. congrats Disney you continue to make things worse way to go.

[@crossedwires2629]

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