Dissecting Minecraft's Most Complex Minigame - gnireenignE Ep 1

A great way to learn is to learn from others.
Tango's Channel - @TangoTekLP
Featured vid - • Let's Shuffle Some Car...
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:10 The Goal
01:40 Permanent Cards
06:56 The Shuffler
14:37 Temporary Cards
16:59 Card Return/Destruction
25:02 Outro

[@Fhill467]

Tango often says in his streams he forgets how his own redstone works in Decked Out 2 because there is so much of it now. I think it would be hilarious if people started sending him these videos so he could be retaught on how his own systems work. Keep it up this was really well done.

[@jazziiRed]

That would be really funny

[@julianemery718]

I don't think it would be funny, it would be really useful! I think Tango would love to have this sort of simplified example of his systems so he can remind himself what does what. If I were tango I'd think this was some sort of godsend.

[@valtteripennanen4043]

imagine being taught something you created

[@slavsquatsuperstar]

Forgot to comment his redstone xD

[@mz7315]

That... is a certified BRUH moment.

[@EnderMega]

I understood that "gnireenignE" was "engineering" backwards, but didnt thought about _"reverse engeneering",_ good one lol.

[@glitchkiller872]

it seems you also didn't "thought" about how to use proper grammar so in turn used "thought" instead of "think" (this is just me messing with you [Thought I may as well clarify this, since this comment may come off as a sort of mean remark])

[@EnderMega]

@@glitchkiller872 Im brazilian, not a english speaker, that why I may have said stuff wrong. But thanks anyway.

[@chickendoodle3241]

@@EnderMegaquick note; shoulda used ‘an’ on ‘English speaker’ rather than tha wrong-sounding a. It’s not a (pronounced ‘uh’ in this context) thing we like to do. It’s not a requirement, just an embellishment, to make your words sound better than they do. On you learning our language, i’d like to thank you. It’s fucked in the head and I would’ve stank through my every attempt at using it.

[@chickendoodle3241]

(* had i not been born into using it)

[@anton_r]

14:21 Tango has since updated the shuffler, precisely because of this problem. The new version uses 40 hopper-minecarts. (Each minecart grabs one card randomly). The design is by cybot2419, it was also used by xisumavoid for the automatic TCG-arena: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJWToqOYhKiiaNk

[@jazziiRed]

Sweet, thanks for letting me know :)

[@Wjanabdjd138]

@@jazziiRedAlso the 5% random card destruction system has been totally removed. Non-ethereal cards will never be destroyed

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@Wjanabdjd138I wish he did a version of it where you would lose a (ethereal) card only if you die in the dungeon or dont return with an artifact. This way you would be rewarded by getting out with an artifact and could rerun the same card the next run again. So the card would die with you, upping the stakes. But it might be a bit too snowbally for players that win multiple times in a row.

[@GavinBisesi]

@@SETHthegodofchaos I don't think that would work well - it creates a "lose more" feedback cycle. Losing one run makes it more likely for you to lose the next run, because you don't have a card you otherwise would. It's better if the runs are totally independent of each other (up to the limit of them buying new cards of course)

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

@@GavinBisesi yeah you are probably right

[@yiannchrst]

FYI the card destruction feature got scraped! It was nice of you to cover its redstone, just letting everyone who didn't know know. btw this is a very nice series! can't wait for ep2!

[@U.Inferno]

I was curious about that because when he said "Each card has a 5% chance of being destroyed" my first thought was "In a full deck that's all but certain to happen at least once." Iirc in a filled deck, at least one card would have been destroyed around 80-90% of the time, which is *terrible* design. If he wanted a card to be destroyed for every 1 in 20 games rather than 1 in 20 cards, I would have rolled right before the return, and then randomize which card is sacked. But even then to me the concept isn't that great to begin with.

[@vannername8413]

Don't watch Tango, but every time I heard a mention of Decked Out I instantly became very curious, even though I never tried to analyze the thing myself. Thank you for making this video to explain stuff in a quick and informative way!

[@thfreakinacage]

I didn't either, Decked Out 2 is the thing that earned my subscription to his channel. Absolutely insane build and I just had to see every minute of it :D

[@spanishSpaniard]

Another change tango made (as far as I know) he took away the 5% of card destruction.

[@manucaouette]

This will be an awesome series, the name says it all

[@TheDrover15]

I think Tango got ride of the 5% card "destroyer" and reworked the Shuffler becasue of the 1 item glitch

[@droumerda]

I like how you explain even the "simple" parts of the redstone (like the observer clock).

[@_Revengist]

5:10 The piston, the observer, and the concrete walk into a bar.

[@dorithegreat6155]

Thank you so much for this video, I'm a massive fan of Tango but unfortunately despite being a mad genius he's really not great at explaining what he's doing or sometimes just straight up doesn't explain I'm loving the reverse engineering pun but I'm not sure if it works as branding because I absolutely cannot pronounce it at all. And if you want a challange for this series, try explaining one of DocM77's contraptions

[@elijahanonymous4596]

That's cause he has a wide audience to retain and much of it may dislike lengthy explanations of redstone.

[@leovaldez6280]

Docm is never alone in building contraptions tho. There's always a whole ass group behind it

[@slimecubeboing]

Love this new series! I've been watching Tango's videos and have always wondered how the redstone actually works behind the scenes

[@MacroAggressor]

I'm very excited to sit down and watch this when I have a moment. Decked Out 2 looks _INCREDIBLE!_

[@jaysonbunnell8097]

I love this!! Always wondered how decked out works lol, awesome

[@MegaGaming11]

Nice. Lookin' forward to what you have next here!

[@ErrantThoughts]

Quality video, his project is interesting from a creative and technical level but there is of course not enough time or energy for him to fully break down his systems. This would make a great series if you’ve the context to do so available from his streams and vids

[@LMC_Jarred]

I love the idea of more episodes of gnireenignE (title is great, too) and am looking forward to more! This was really interesting. The stacking of items after shuffling was on my mind too. I guess one potential fix would be making all of the temporary cards be nonstackable items.

[@mcgrewgs]

Please keep doing these!

[@thfreakinacage]

I do hope a future season also brings Decked Out 3. Not to say 2 isn't amazing enough on its own, it absolutely is, but I'd just love to see if, and how, Tango would incorporate the new auto crafter into it. I believe Hermitcraft already has datapacks for custom recipes, so I can easily imagine him turning a dungeon into a collect-a-thon where you pick up all the pieces of your artifact and when they're all in place, the auto-crafter spits it out or something. Or probably something far more interesting than my basic idea here, I'm sure he would add in some amazing ideas with that new item.

[@reecejacobmusic]

THIS IS GREAT! KEEP DOING IT!

[@metr4770]

Great format

[@OriginalCatfish42]

I know my way around redstone and seeing the naked machinery its pretty cool I can pretty much tell what its doing and how it works but BOY Tango is a genius! Thanks for the videos man they are really helpful!

[@wearron]

Thanks! now I can build my own card shuffler so I can suffice my gambling addction!

[@LugborG]

This series is going to be incredibly helpful as I attempt to build a version on my own server.

[@GalaxyGhost135]

Woah! I've loved tangos work for awhile now and have been slowly building any Hermitcraft redstone things on bedrock and currently been working on Decked out 2 and currently constructing level 2

[@RevereShin]

With Cubfan's Newest "One Card Challenge Run" Video, you are proven 100% correct with your assessment that the contraption breaks if only one card is in the deck. While in-dungeon gameplay appears to be unaffected, the system never returns the deck.

[@Rdasboss]

Yes definitely a good series. In a basic redstoner and it helps to see how the simple stuff gets put together to make a whole other game inside a game.

[@dekcraft262]

Dude this is awesome. Im working on my own version to a decked out game. I understand 95% of tango's redstone but i love to see how others look at it. I have studied the redstone of decked out 2 for months so if you want a hand hit me up i will be happy to help

[@jazziiRed]

Best of luck, and thanks for the offer :)

[@diggoran]

I loved hearing you pronounce gnireenignE XD

[@FireBlockerPro]

I love this new set up... keep it up!!

[@jazziiRed]

Thanks!

[@forax]

This is a guess/idea of mine. If you make the cards with custom named books they won't stack in the shuffler, and also you can write the cards description so players know what they do

[@hamsterdmg]

im not gonna watch this video for one simple reason. out of respect for the hard work he put into something so unique

[@RubusCalculum]

With the cycling pulse extender I like to counter that by putting a 2 tick extender first with a repeater going from that to a second, longer pulse extender.

[@Terger17]

I love it, well me encanta

[@coruscaregames]

i love the name of thsi series

[@autumnmaru]

The two main systems I really were interested in the first decked out was the artifact shuffler and the artifact giver. I'm excited to see you tackle this, but please don't give up on the what the heck is series.

[@thfreakinacage]

I recently replicated the artifact giver if interested. I also expended on it to make it "item safe". The one Tango made you can throw any item into any artifact giver, so I extended it so it only accepts the correct compass and spits any other item back out 👍

[@SrVerataro]

I still remember the first time i saw decked out in its full glory I said "Jesus Christ..." and stood there silent and sill as stone

[@GameBoy-ep7de]

I thought of a possible flaw in the shuffler. It was that if there are 8 or less cards that make it into the shuffler it would just cycle them in a loop instead of shuffle. When you pointed out the flaw in how it was triggered I thought that it would partially prevent the flaw I perceived. I also noticed that if there were duplicates, then the probabilities in the shuffler would also be effected. The last thing I thought of was that in the 5% destruction chance at the end, that it should be triggered PER item, and so the pressure plate used to separate the water streams would be the ideal trigger mechanism.

[@whtiequillBj]

have you thought of going to get the map of Decked Out 1 and figuring out how it works as the HermitCraft map should be avalible.

[@shadowbryant0198]

I comprehend what is happening and how, but i’ve played bedrock for so long i’m not sure if I could build it, very impressive stuff

[@wearron]

I noticed the first item sorter was realllyyyy looking like the item sorter in your mail system 😅

[@saisarathsainathuni3622]

its a pretty standard design used by a lot of people

[@justinnamilee]

And here I thought you were just gonna build all of Decked Out 2... xD

[@wibiz9657]

Great video, although I never realised there was a 5% chance for the non-ethereal card to be destroyed. I've never seen that happen to the Hermits so I think Tango got rid of it, as it would decrease the value of all the cards as well as make even me paranoid about everything, as it could destroy a 60-ember card.

[@KornPlays]

very creative episode name 😂😂

[@Mr.Evert_]

If there is only 1 temporaly card you don't need to shuffle it so I don"t think it would be a problem btw i love your video

[@jazziiRed]

But what if there is a gap induced by a bunch of permanent cards, such as T P P P T T T? That gap where the permanent cards are processed would create the cycle that I showed in the video.

[@Mr.Evert_]

@@jazziiRed you're one step ahead of me

[@MisterAwesan]

Love this idea. Maybe ethos nexus could be next?

[@nikorinmp]

Hello! I loved the video! Really informative, even if I don't usually do much Redstone. I have some feedback I'd like to share about the 5% destroy chance system.. 23:35 Shouldn't the repeater for the chance be triggered each time an item goes through the ice line? I don't think it originally worked with a "global clock" as you mentioned... I think with the implementation described in this video, the "global clock" will keep triggering the system while the game is not in use. Eventually getting that "5% chance" and locking that repeater. Which would then guarantee the first card of the next player being destroyed. 24:10 Instead of "Waiting for the next item", for it to be truly a 5% chance, the redstone signal for the chance system, should be extracted from the stream of cards and NOT from this "global clock". This way, each time a card goes trough, it has a chance of it being destroyed. I'm excited to watch the next episodes in this series! :D

[@KFishproductionII]

you should try dissecting etho's latest shulker search engine, he made no tutorial on it

[@fleetwingpone966]

tango is a genius

[@jazziiRed]

He really is

[@hitmoh]

13:17 even if it pul the items prematurely it's one item no meaning to shuffle one item

[@splaturials9156]

that 5% destroy cards chance is not in the final game luckly

[@derklempner]

I think your reverse engineering idea would be a great way to create video content by having viewers send you redstone contraptions that you could compact or improve upon. I know I'd love to see somebody improve my chicken-killing food dispenser so it automatically refills the food dispensers.

[@tox1c_box]

lol the series name is so clever, reverse engineering!! haha

[@honeybadger2371]

Damn

[@DragonTecCo.]

Hear me out... if you play every ethereal card at once in one decked out game, i think it'd be funny if tango made some kinda yu gi oh reference, maybe to exodia, the forbidden one... maybe like as a secret final boss to decked out

[@HelPfeffer]

Why hoppers for the sr latches? In 3:57

[@user-ln2ri9nx8u]

Hey, jazziiRed, I made a version of this postal system where you can put certain items in the minecart chest and those items will determine where (or who) the shipment goes to. I would love for you to see this and even maybe make a video on it if you're interested. I'm putting this comment both on the "How to Send Minecarts Through Unloaded Chunks" video and your most recent one, the "Dissecting Minecraft's Most Complex Minigame - gnireenignE Ep 1" video in hopes that you may see it. (it also might be on the next video you post because this took me a week to build and I really want you to see it, sorry). Thanks!

[@NaokisRC]

I found it funny how I asked my GF to explain how likely 5% was to happen using WoW experience... and made me completely understand why the 5% chance card destruction was removed lol

[@secretmeister]

My question about decked out, is how does it autoreset the number of ravagers and stuff, because people say that difficulty affects the number of ravagers everywhere, how does that work? also how does it deal with hermits dying in the middle of the dungeon and retreiving the items? also how do the artifact spots detect unique compassess, they cant stack right?

[@xenon2177]

Difficulty actually doesn't affect the number of ravagers at all, I think some people have assumed the difficulty means more than it does. All the difficulty does is determine how far you need to go into the dungeon for your artifact. Hermits dying in the middle of the dungeon is handled by having lots of items and just letting the ones dropped despawn, including treasure that never got picked up. There is a clock to prevent another person from going in before the items have despawned. Lastly, the compasses could stack since the ones bound to the same lodestone will actually stack, however, for simplicity's sake Tango hasn't bothered sorting to make sure you put the compass in the right spot. He has assumed the hermits aren't likely to follow the compass to the wrong spot, and I think most of them assume it has to be the right spot.

[@nochsta]

@@xenon2177Also, the item doesn’t even have to be a compass; you can drop any item in to get the artefact. In theory, if you wanted to cheat, you could visit multiple known locations and leave with multiple artefacts by dropping random loot in them. Or even sit and spam one location. Or you could “trade” a low-value artefact: keep chucking it back in until you get a better one.

[@stupidgqmer]

me trying to understand redstone 😰

[@neoaquadolphin]

what is the redstone texture pack that youre using?

[@jazziiRed]

I'm using the signal strength texture from vanilla tweaks

[@hjagu1323]

Plece put gnireenigne in the tile the next time

[@soninhodev7851]

your gnireenignE name just earned a subscriber!!!rebircsbus a denrae tsuj eman Engineering ruoy

[@jazziiRed]

!sknahT

[@escada5218]

Someone can explain what are the composters doing?

[@josephallen3978]

They are to minimize lag by stopping the hopper from checking above it constantly

[@escada5218]

​@@josephallen3978Thanks, I'd never have thought of that

[@josephallen3978]

@escada5218 no problem! And yeah it's not really something most people have to think about, but in servers with lots of farms and stuff it makes a significant difference

[@x7rh51]

with only 8 items it doesn't really shuffle, it just rotates the items but with more this should be fixed.

[@SWRDMaster]

As there are 2 hopper lines into a single chest it would be like taking the bottom card and placing on top repeatedly for the troopers but, at the end, the deck is split in 2 and left-right-left-right shuffled into the chest.

[@anonymousmisnomer5443]

The game isn't even done yet homie

[@Notabot-2112]

Much as I love the play on words that is gnireenignE, and would like to see more of this series, it's a bit of a pain to type, and therefore search. So if you care about this series reaching anyone beyond your subscribers, you might want to consider a name change...

[@gardenshed6043]

I find gnireenignE funny.

[@joseph_anton_white]

you are not so enterteining to watch but damn your underrated

[@jazziiRed]

My "on camera" presence is a work in progress for sure. Will continue improving :)

[@MrMattkid]

I like the format, but the name could use a little work lol

[@TheOnyx999]

Uhh you can just use the world download

[@tsumgye5370]

please stop the punch at the camera thing

[@Gekoloudios]

you know that title isn't getting you any views, right?

[@QuasiCosmiX]

I clicked on it just from the title mate, what’s your point?

[@Gekoloudios]

@@QuasiCosmiX it's kinda un-interesting and long so most people wouldn't bother to read it/watch the video even

[@jazziiRed]

True, it's not too catchy. Balancing between intrigue and clickbait is pretty difficult, especially for an education channel.

[@MinerBat]

@@jazziiRed you just have to mention hermitcraft, tangotech and/or decked out. not clickbait since that is exactly what the video is about. a popular and clickable title isnt clickbait if it accurately represents what the video is about

[@julianemery718]

@@Gekoloudios Its not interesting to YOU. Don't pass off your opinions as facts, please.