DIY - Ducati M659 Lams Upgrade 50 percent more power.

[@SteveRidesBikes4Ever]

Wow . . . That's got to be the best & clearest instructional video on any process I've ever seen! WELL DONE!

[@turbobike749]

Cheers Steve. Thanks mate !!

[@georgechrysler5700]

Just did this to my bike. Video is very helpful. Two items need clarification. Firstly, to unplug the wires to the throttle position sensor you will need to get a flat screwdriver behind the black plastic socket and prise off a wire clip that is out of sight. The socket will never come apart unless you get the wire clip off. Secondly, to remove the throttle cable metal tube, pressing the flat metal spring, which you cannot see, behind the mounting will do nothing. The throttle cable will come out of the housing easily, only after you have fully released that flat metal spring. To do this, get a tiny flat screwdriver under the top of the spring and prise it upwards. It's not a coil spring, it is a flat piece of metal that slides down and holds the end of the cable (i.e. the metal tube) into the throttle body. Before you do either of these activities stuff a rag down the top of the throttle body, just in case either of these springy things flies off and ricochets into the throttle body.

[@darrenchambers2041]

Struggling to get the throttle cable out big time!

[@darrenchambers2041]

Just done it haha

[@lawrienolan5189]

Thanks So Much for your Expertise! I purchased a 2021 Monster 659 for my son to ride but he's moved away so I'll now de-restrict the 659 for a lightweight and nimble alternative to my Blackbird. Cheers!

[@turbobike749]

Thanks Lawrie !

[@NoStringsAttached777]

Thinking about getting one of these as a first road bike so it's good to see there is an " upgrade" path down the road. Thanks so much!

[@thefilthyginger5719]

Thanks for the video mate, I've been looking everywhere on how to derestrict this models 659. Legend!!

[@turbobike749]

No problem 👍👍. This will crank up the little monster for ya ✊

[@Bok2022st]

​@@turbobike749sorry only just seen your video is this all it that needs to be done or does it need also retuning or is its Engine safe just doing this ?

[@maxcarter970]

I had the previous model 659 that I bought when I got back into riding a few years ago. That model was so much easier to derestrict! Two minute job. With the restricter off these bikes are almost the perfect amount of power for urban riding. Lots of fun.

[@turbobike749]

I agree Max. You can use 110% of the power and have alot of fun in suburbia.

[@dg5433]

Thanks for that. Even unrestricted, the air fuel ratio was still rich at 11.5 in the higher revs so there is even more power there with a powercommander or similar to tweek

[@turbobike749]

Yeah mate. Tune it up for maximum potential !! ✊👊👍

[@MrLiesAngeles]

I might recommend the Cobra instead of the Power Commander as it adjusts itself instead if being stuck to a map which would most likely be harder to get seeing as how its unrestricted now. They are the same price too.

[@KrisH-mc8hd]

You would be an awesome instructor champ 👍

[@turbobike749]

Cheers !

[@hanyuli6708]

good job mate!! best video I've seen on youtube very clear. just wondering when you said there is nothing done to the bike , I realise that your rev limit is 9300 rpm but mine is 8300 how do u adjust that?

[@craigkaschan4822]

Mate awesome video. Does this process also apply for the 2012 model.

[@Guesty12]

well explained and shown, cheers mate

[@turbobike749]

Awesome and glad you enjoyed it.

[@ryandix7910]

Cracking video, thank you

[@kylelawson3495]

I have the same bike but with the termi race pipe and the flash tune does the exhaust give to bike any power gain ?

[@harlz31]

Great video. Looking at getting a 2011 659, the one with the vents in tank. Would this mod work for an older model?

[@turbobike749]

Easier on the earlier bikes. This stopper is on the right hand side of the throttle bodies.

[@nope.c]

This is awesome. Can it be done on a 796?

[@bradthebikeboy]

torque peak at 8k is pretty wild for a 2v. same cams as the other scramblers, which are quite short so that's impressive. well, i'm just looking at the specs now. 8 degrees less duration, but inlet actually closing 6 degrees later. exhaust opens 8 degrees earlier too - so you couldn't really advance it. wonder how that cam would work in an old 659? i have one i'm hoping to put in an old monster at some point. how does the power and torque compare to an older 659 or 696?

[@turbobike749]

Thanks for commenting Brad. Not sure about the comparison as I didn't overlay it. I would guess it would be similar. Also mate I enjoy you channel uploads. Good work.

[@TheSchlippsters]

Is there a restricter on the 797...? Holy hell this is amazing

[@turbobike749]

Haha nah mate...... ya need a M1200 or V4 streetfighter 😂

[@tomashermann2994]

y thing not, because 659 is actually restricted 797

[@mervyoung5397]

Is that 64.29HP at the rear wheels? What’s that equate to at the crank? 72HP?

[@lobsttt]

Wow cheers for that, and there's no risk at all when doing this nothing else need adjustment only removes these pieces and get more power? that'd be sweet as!!

[@turbobike749]

Glad you enjoyed it mate. Way more power !

[@xyanidenz1515]

Im bout to get my full soon , and i have this bike amazing beautiful thing... i knew about the restriction, but are you saying that if you remove that throttle stopper you going to gain that more torque/HP? Without doing anything else? I was told by my dealer you need to reflash the ECU? Which would cost 2 to 3k

[@turbobike749]

I just did what was in the video mate. Nothing more or less.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

What about the upmap and termi factory fitted end results? Did this bike already have these or was it just stock standard?

[@turbobike749]

@@marcusgeorge1825 This was just a stock bike with no other upgrade.

[@Mick_23]

2 - 3k for a reflash. Did you call them thief's/criminals? I would.

[@AnnieMcNeill]

I am not experienced at reading a dyno chart. Could you please tell me the output in kw and hp of the de-restricted Monster

[@braim143]

Hi mate,, can you plz confirm what year models this works on? And what model is in the vdo?

[@turbobike749]

Hello Ibrahim, It is done on the Australian models that are M659 which are learner approved. The bikes it works on look same as video and the earlier model M659 look different to bike in this video and have different setup.

[@braim143]

TURBOBIKE 👍🏼grt.. thanks heaps. I was told by the dealers otherwise.

[@iceblue1963]

excellent vid, thanks for posting..

[@turbobike749]

Thanks mate. Im glad you liked it.

[@nyChannel09]

Why is it restricted in the first place? I know its learner approved motorcycle, but dont you have the license already?

[@luckyhah]

Is the weird bolt to hold restrictor easy to get back on? Cause I'll probably want to restore to stock condition if I need to sell the bike in the future. Thanks!

[@turbobike749]

Very small to get back in there but I think it could be done pretty easily.

[@denniskladaric881]

Do you have to do the tune or can you just take off the restriction and ride straight away?

[@diamondmidnightgardener]

Great vid, thanks for that. Also, if I want to sell it later I have to re-restrict it as it's a LAMS bike and therefore is supposed to be sold with all the restriction shit on. If I do re-restrict it at a later date will it be a problem? [eg. inspectors get the idea that it's been tampered with etc]..... again thanks... very high quality vid without any bullshit.

[@turbobike749]

Thanks for the comment Phil..Yes I would restrict it so the next young bloke that jumps on it doesn't have too much power. Then they will get their skills up before unleashing the beast :)

[@bdgnz]

Great vid mate - cheers - how has the bike been ever since ?

[@turbobike749]

Hi Brandon. Still going great mate !

[@nic6754]

Awesome vid brother, cheers.

[@turbobike749]

Thanks Nic

[@Serraph125]

Thanks for this mate! Been wondering how to go about unrestricting her. Did you get to ride before and after?

[@turbobike749]

Its very good as it is I think. As far as tuning I'm not sure what's out there mate.

[@scottmorrall7519]

Hey mate. Need help getting the throttle cable back on with the clip. Any tips?

[@turbobike749]

Hi Scott. Nah not really but just make sure it is correct before reassembly.

[@davidmcnamara8759]

Impressive little engine

[@turbobike749]

They sure are Dave. Good that they can be upgraded in the power department very easily.

[@t4ketsuru]

do you have to remapped the ecu or anything like that or just remove the plate. EDIT: nvm found another comment about that

[@turbobike749]

Hi mate. I did run it up on the dyno and the air fuel ratio still looks good on the bike I tested it on.

[@Conky769]

Great video mate. Ledgend.

[@scottdonbrosky5968]

Why is the Dyno pulls in STD and not SAE?

[@AWEdio]

Nice one mate, only seen people sharing photos on this subject, up till this point. People seem to think you can get at that bolt from the other side, without removing the entire throttle body. Also, the photos I've seen don't look anything like what I am seeing in your video. So it would seem the internet is full of it, as usual heh *edit* Oh, wait, maybe your m659 is a different year to mine (2014) my rear suspension configuration is not the same... guess I'll have to go have a look and see what I can figure out.

[@AWEdio]

Presumably this tweak will have no effect on my max top end, but it will just get there a lot faster! The dealership I bought mine from was telling me about the de-restriction option and claimed I would gain some top end, which made no sense to me...

[@turbobike749]

Definitely the bike will gain top speed as it will make more power when derestricted . I would recommend getting it done only if your riding skills are ready for the extra power. Cheers for your interest and comments too.

[@AWEdio]

@@turbobike749 I've had it for four years so I'd love the extra power, now in the UK where LAMs does not apply. Is the bike in your video a 2018 M659? Mine's a 2014, so maybe this is actually correct (for me) eat-the-bear.blogspot.com/2015/09/how-to-de-restrict-ducati-659.html If it wasn't 2:30 a.m. I'd just go have a look at the bike heh

[@turbobike749]

Yes Andy this is the latest version of the monster here in Australia. Yours may be different.

[@AWEdio]

@@turbobike749 Thanks mate, my friends and I have all figured it was going to be something inside the throttle mechanism on the handle bars. So although your video isn't of my model, it has still pointed me in the right direction! *edit* - Bike is now de-restricted. So much for jobs on Ducati being difficult lol I bet they amended the set up on the newer models to make it more difficult. The internet was right for a change, it was one bolt, accessible without removing anything else, took less than a minute. *double edit* - Wow, what a difference a bolt makes! I've loved this bike for many years, only now do I fully appreciate what it is really capable of. I absolutely agree with you, if someone has only recently passed, do NOT remove the restriction, unless you want plates in yourself, or worse. I can only imagine what she'd be like tuned up combined with an exhaust upgrade! Now she deserves to be called a Monster... Hilarious :D

[@Tether970]

Legend thanks mate great video

[@turbobike749]

Thankyou mate. Huge improvement in power hey.

[@leonpalermo1069]

Do you have to tune it after de-restricting?

[@philabraham9144]

Any advice on removing the external throttle cable tube thing. I could feel the clip around the back but no matter what I did I could not get it out.

[@turbobike749]

Hi mate. I used a 90 degree pick to slide in under the top part and lift it up.

[@Winfo-eq5rq]

Just wanted to ask if the ECU needs remapping after de-restriction?

[@turbobike749]

I ran it up on the dyno with the standard ecu tune and it all looked pretty good to me. But maybe a powercommander or something could get it even better if your local dyno dude wants to have a play with it.

[@danieldavidson6277]

So what should it be closer to without the restrictor? A 900?

[@turbobike749]

Makes it feel like a 660cc not like a 400cc bike. Perfect amount of power.

[@bretloyd8097]

"for racing purposes only" Hahahahaha Hahahahaha Hahahahaha Hahahahaha bahahaha Fucking love it, if I had 1 HP for every time I've heard it or used it I'd hose Rossi off.

[@msbuilding2806]

Is the restricter in the same place on the 2022 model?

[@turbobike749]

Nope only the Australian bikes that are LAM approved

[@msbuilding2806]

@@turbobike749 I'm in New Zealand so I assume it's the same?

[@westie659]

So you can take this screw out without needing to re tune the bike?

[@turbobike749]

Hi Dan. I didnt need to retune the bike I tested and it ran fine after the mods.

[@westie659]

TURBOBIKE thanks for replying to my comment. Awesome I’m getting mine done next week

[@westie659]

Out of curiosity how does your monster run when it’s raining?

[@GlennWillis]

yes and anyone tells you, you don't get heaps more power they are idiots....

[@GlennWillis]

I have 2014 model, only a rivet with a bolt on otherside, I used a drill with a very steady hand, and it removed instantly, I just push it away the stopper, is alot easier on 2014 model, it's just a plate, i left bottom rivet, and plate on bike, i just pushed it away until throttle cleared, simple as, it gives you, at least 30 percent more throttle and air, which equates to bigger explosion, more power, lol.... u only need to remap, if you put sports exhaust on, mines had the lot done to it, terni ehaust with ecu, kit.... and its a nice little ride....

[@cumulusclouds7975]

Will this work on 2018 Monster 821?

[@turbobike749]

Not on 821,, only the restricted Australian M659 models.

[@anthonymorris6791]

"for racing purposes only" You're funny,

[@turbobike749]

Haha yep Shhhhhh.....

[@Brockstar10000]

I saw the air box mod for the Scrambler on the forums, but can’t seem to actually find it for sale. Could I install it on my 659? Thanks!!

[@turbobike749]

Yeah I dont make those kits anymore. The M659 is same looking throttlebodie and airbox but the frame is different etc so all bracketry wouldn't fit.

[@Brockstar10000]

TURBOBIKE Okay, not a problem thank you very much.

[@colin319]

Just did this to a 2020 659 way more angry😉

[@Samzeramiha007]

Torque seems low compared to say the Yamaha mt07 restricted

[@titustheman1]

how do you disconnect the throttle sensor plug?

[@ReturnToSender1313]

Someone mentioned a hidden clip behind it that a flat head screwdriver is needed for.

[@jimmyzhu9953]

hi why my 659 wont rev over 5500rpm？I mean it simply can’t

[@turbobike749]

Hi Jimmy, I'm not sure why yours wont rev over 5500rpm. The mods that I have done to this bike have fully transformed it.

[@jimmyzhu9953]

TURBOBIKE wt have u done, my 659 doesn’t give me any more power and it is super hard to rev over 5500-6000rpm, dealer said it’s learner restriction

[@turbobike749]

@@jimmyzhu9953 Thats correct. I have de restricted this bike for "racing use only". Basically what I have done in the video makes it way faster than a restricted model

[@gureno19]

Makes you realise how understressed these motors are in factory form!

[@turbobike749]

That was a really great power improvement for sure. So much better to ride now.

[@captainawesomeness9238]

Legend

[@turbobike749]

Cheers !

[@Dave-ig3km]

Is that the current model lams, I just called in to look at one today and was told there was no way to open it up or derestrict it after you have a full license.....

[@turbobike749]

Hi Dave, that was the latest bike generation but it was a 2018 bike. I check the parts listing and they both run the same throttlebody with that restrictor.

[@Dave-ig3km]

TURBOBIKE thanks for the info, they obviously don’t want people to know that.. but I don’t want to buy a bike that I can’t unrestricted for that sort of price.

[@mikecarmona9024]

These restrictors are only in European Ducati models correct?

[@zerozilchnada5373]

Tfs 😉

[@turbobike749]

ok not sure what that means sorry mate.

[@bennib5558]

Do a lams street triple plzzzz

[@turbobike749]

I will do mate if one turns up at our shop !

[@bennib5558]

@@turbobike749 can you maybe shed some light on this then until you get one in the shop. There's a guy selling a lams 660 which is unrestricted and tuned, said he's getting over 90hp on the rear wheel, that's over double the standard right? In real world scenario what sort of improvement can this achieve, e.g. 0-60mph goes from 5sec to 3.x or torqueall the way through each. I'm not a mechanic would love to know what this means to a lay rider.

[@MrCobalty]

For the love of god some one tell me how to make my 1000ds faster

[@vegasdavis5404]

Hang on so you're telling me that anyone can take this little pc off of their bikes and get almost 20+hp and 9+tq ???? It definitely looks like a pain in the ass to do but im willing to give it go on my 797 monster

[@TheGameIsUp1984]

Hi mate...thinking of buying a 2012 model...do you know whether it would be the same procedure...?

[@turbobike749]

HI mate, the 2012 is different and runs a throttlebody for each cylinder (not single like later models). The restrictor for this model is on the R/H side where the cables go in. Feel the throttle add look at the throttlebody. If it only goes to about 1/3 throttle restrictor is still fitted.

[@TheGameIsUp1984]

@@turbobike749 champion...thanks mate.

[@turbocharged9589]

@@turbobike749 does a Monster 796 (North American model) not have this limiter then?