DJI Digital FPV System: First Impressions

[@WKfpv]

I need that t-shirt

[@stingersswarm]

Link in the description bro!! Get on that merch and rep some powerloops!!!

[@DavidReynolds-kr6yh]

It’s an amazing piece of technology that’s going to revolutionise the whole industry, it’s going to mean that every other company is going to have to put a lot of work into their current systems. It’s not just like a next level system, but several levels above what’s otherwise available at the moment.

[@bzbwaiinswitzerland5504]

Would it be possible to use the dji rc with a simulator?

[@fsarfino]

Love the possibile commerical opportunities that this opens up

[@a.i.thinker4059]

Hopefully this is the up and coming bar for FPV flying. Maybe in the near future analog will be the cheaper secondary, entry level option for beginners to see if it’s something they’ll want to get into. If this is where it may be headed well that’s cool af!

[@MindOfBoomBoom]

i wonder, if you are Flying the DJI next to other pilots would there be a broadcast issue? How many Miliiwatts does the DJI Goggle operate on? 25mw, 200mw,500mw? it appears the 5.8ghz channels are the same as analog signal Frequencies from what i have seen. might be a good test to see if it affects any one else flying analog. just a thought

[@stingersswarm]

There is a frequency DJI recommends analog pilots avoid I forget which one its a "common" or "public" frequency. IDK what that means.

[@MindOfBoomBoom]

@@stingersswarm it be an interesting test then i guess? thanks for your review i enjoyed it very much

[@pyroman590]

Today the FPV game is forever changed. Whether DJI is the end all be all answer is yet to be seen. Others will jump on board, DJI will continue to update as the product is adapted. This is a God send for frame designers, they will undoubtedly come up with DJI friendly designs, that equates to increased sales. I'm not jumping yet, but likely will as it ages.

[@mike0wnzu479]

Will it be possible to get that hd digital signal in a module for the fatsharks in the future?

[@yannickg6904]

Now that would be awesome! DJI HD Fatshark module for HDOs. Even an external receiver that plugs into a docking module would be acceptable.

[@stingersswarm]

You would have to ask DJI. But they seems unlikely.

[@anthonygobeil7894]

Hopefully. Someone else will come up with a clever hack I'm sure. Maybe the dji module found on the phantom pro controllers that currently let you link up fatsharks could be modified or integrated into this new controller..? We'll see, regardless it's an exciting time to be in the hobby.

[@Blizofoz45]

Can I just power this camera with via battery connection or do I absolutely have to wire it to a FC to make it work? It looks like a kind of AIO setup but it sounds more like a Runcam Swift/Caddx/etc type of package.

[@stingersswarm]

You can power it off of 7.4-17.6V

[@kevinjei]

So i can use my taranis x9d plus se and just buy the air unit and googles? Is there a disadvantage if i dont use the dji transmitter? Hopefully someone can clarify this

[@stingersswarm]

My understanding from the documentation is that if you only use the video receiver it is in audience mode which has lower range but it will work. I could be wrong on this though.

[@Ferdigrapher]

@StingersSwarm: The reason why your sides were a bit blurry/pixelate is that you had Focus mode turned on all the time. It keeps the bitrate higher in the middle section and loses bitrate on the sides. It is beneficial if you fly in environments with lots of details (like forests). If you turn Focus mode of you have the same picture quality on the whole picture.

[@fernandogil7994]

Hi Ferdinand you are changing to Dji Fpv ? You really think this is a game changer and sell your analog gear.

[@stingersswarm]

Yeah that info was more clear in the documents DJI released on launch day. In the documentation they gave reviewers it just said Focus Mode: provides clearer picture.

[@Ferdigrapher]

StingersSwarm 😂 I am sorry for that.

[@butcher]

There is possible to use extra lens in the googles?

[@stingersswarm]

It doesn't appear to be.

[@MrElectrick55]

For everything this system “replaces” Receiver Radio Camera VTX Goggles HD camera(GoPro) The price isn’t outrageous. I jumped and I’m going to swap everything over. This maybe what I’ve been waiting for. Thanks for the comprehensive video!

[@stingersswarm]

It does replace quite a bit for the price. I want to see some durability tests before I swap everything over though.

[@TMachotka]

Can you verify you can output video to a broadcast system? From the specs the "broadcast mode" only outputs to other goggles, not a digital output like an HDMI you can output to a TV or other broadcast display. I've searched and searched for an answer but have come up with nothing on confirmation that it can actually broadcast to publicly viewable systems rather than just other goggles.

[@stingersswarm]

That was a misunderstanding on my part. Broadcast mode is to other goggles only. We are going to need a dedicated reciever from DJI for this to work.

[@DronoTron]

Are you sure about the HD video out for live streaming?

[@stingersswarm]

No I am not. DJI's documentation stated broadcast ability but this may just be to other goggles. I need more clarification from DJI.

[@steady747]

Are the goggles compatible with the mavic etc...?

[@stingersswarm]

Idk. Maybe DJI can clarify.

[@steady747]

@@stingersswarm That would make a big difference for those who own a Mavic. I'm sticking with my set up for now. I will be buying one of those shirts though. that shirt is everything

[@ashleyschooneman2998]

Could you use this for rc cars

[@davidwong5104]

I have a question, and I think I might have waste a bunch of money on this, my elevator is inverted, so when my right hand push up, my quad tilts back, and push down on my radio, my quad goes forward, how can I change that, I can just change the weight on my Taranis in the mixer page, how do I do it for this?????

[@VinceIrie]

Powahhh loopin in HD all day 🚀 Great video bro! 🙌🏽😎

[@stingersswarm]

Thanks man

[@billybbob18]

You noticed the fuzziness of the image edge during signal loss. I actually had an idea over a year ago for a poor signal compensation algorithm. It would couple the gyro readings with the receiver RSSI to take the last known good image and perform pan and zoom operations while filling in the new frame data with the raw feed. Something like that requires a GPU to operate. If the innards contain GPU hardware, then that sort of post processing is probably happening in the backround at near real time speeds. DJI definitely did some good here. This would have the drawback of moving objects holding still while this processing occurs which could be pretty terrible depending on where you're flying. This would probably take as much computer power as a high end phone.

[@skins6007]

Is it possible to use the goggles and camera only, without having to use the DJI radio? In other words, Do you think you could use crossfire on taranis with micro or nano receiver combined with DJI goggles and DJI camera? Nice video👍

[@QuebecConnection]

You talk about HD output for broadcasting. Have you found anything to connect an HDMI/SDI cable on? It seems like it's not actually supported..

[@stingersswarm]

You are correct. I misunderstood DJI's documentation and their "broadcast support" is in reference to other DJI goggles being able to tune into your video.

[@raphaelboudreaultsimard]

StingersSwarm that's what I was fearing! Thanks for the reply

[@CoffeeandDrones]

Dang buddy look at them switches! Thanks for the thorough first look chief!

[@richardclayton7170]

Does the air unit have a radio receiver built in as well?

[@stingersswarm]

Yes it does.

[@EthanMitchell_YouTube]

Really wish DJI started out with the air unit and matching module that would fit in FatSharks. I think they would have hooked more people that way. I’m super excited to try them out though!

[@stingersswarm]

I agree but there is no way to cram that computing power into the module bay on a pair of fat sharks. Just saying.

[@EthanMitchell_YouTube]

I see, very good point! Still very exciting tech! Thanks for the reply Stingy!

[@EthanMitchell_YouTube]

BTW, does the betaflight OSD come through?

[@MrEndercreeps]

Does the dji radio have multi model memory?

[@stingersswarm]

Hmmm. That is a good question. It doesn't have a lot of customization like you see in OpenTX for example but it does have some customization with the goggles.

[@TheXanUser]

impressive. hope they do a groundation version , with lighter plugin goggles. , ground station to goggles wireless link with a single receiver/antenna. (get most of the weight and bulk off the goggles and up on a pole.)

[@carrboro_chapelhillfpv2442]

Why has no one showed the connectors that it is working with? At least we know Sbus now. I am thinking of slapping this in a fpv wing to see how it would work. Imagine fpv spec wings racing in HD. Would be nice to say the least.

[@stingersswarm]

No connectors. Bare wire to be soldered to your Flight controller.

[@Jrod_FPV]

Strange that the frame rate looks completely normal even though you said it feels like it gets choppy at forget distances/ lower signal.

[@stingersswarm]

Yeah, I am just saying what it feels like. I think it may just be the higher latency as signal degrades that I was "feeling"

[@Jrod_FPV]

@@stingersswarm ahhh ok. Yeah I can imagine it's a strange feeling flying a completely different type of system. would be cool if the latency number you're reading out during the flight could show up in the recorded dvr. thanks for such a great review on this exciting new product!

[@layrad]

Good review which takes into consideration the non FPV hobbyists who might be confused about the new dji product

[@josephbove528]

Awesome video! I think the system is badly needed. Looking forward to checking one out. 6 months into the Hobby and I'm addicted!

[@roodick85]

Try out an old cellphone,a cheap GoPro and Google cardboard goggles first. Under 100 bucks you'll have a cheap fpv

[@bartgrandorff8907]

I have a traxxas aton. And what i dont understand is why and how do i pair that dji remote to my quad.

[@shar-ura]

Good afternoon. I want to start flying with FPV drone. I need advice what fpv drone it is better to buy to use it with a suit dji fpv system. Thanks a lot.

[@stingersswarm]

I am not aware of a frame that currently suits it well. I'm looking for something myself.

[@shar-ura]

@@stingersswarm ok, thank you

[@GavDoG7]

Is it possible to pair the controller with a computer to practice on Liftoff? That way I'd minimize the number of expensive bits I lose in the ocean haha

[@DangerDavefpv]

i know that fpv race drones is its own thing but honestly dji has the best systems ...the range and setup is great , so i feel dji can take info from the fpv guys like me and make this great

[@jasoncorr7193]

Kevin Great Vlog my Buddy... I been watching you since you first started 👍🏽👊🏽✌🏽 your the BEST YOU AND ROTOR RIOT

[@frasersteen]

Really want to see some range testing and bando footage to see where the reception is really at but I don't think I'm going to need much convincing.

[@fishbonez5670]

A hige step forward it seems. The module looks heavy do you know the weight of the module?

[@nozreenreen3535]

Can anyone tell me is this google compatible with rodeo 150? If yes i plan to get one...

[@shadeshiest22]

Wow those goggles look great!!!

[@kanenstuff]

I done the hdmi mod and used my hd2's back in the day on dji P3 it was great thats before I got into racing and freestyle but i would like to check it out but converting my kwads or even trying might be a bit costly and happy with what I have

[@Skydive4ever]

Were you flying at 25mw?

[@stingersswarm]

No 800

[@Skydive4ever]

@@stingersswarm Really! That was no where near the range they announce, not even 1/2 a mile in you flights by the looks of it. Although RR tests seem good. Can you do more real situations range tests? Thanks for the vids :-)

[@wynnfpv]

GREAT JOB EXPLAINING KEVIN! THANKS FOR TAKING TIME TO SHARE

[@stingersswarm]

Thanks man

[@airframe2632]

Product looks great. AND I think we now know why you have been growing out the beard, it pairs great with these antman googles.

[@stingersswarm]

Hahaha!!!

[@ThatFailedartist]

birdman goggles

[@michaelclark5757]

What 5” frames do you think will fit the dji digital system the best? Fits great in the acrobrat so I’m starting there but I need my 5”!!

[@fongfpv738]

Michael Clark flywoo croc frame

[@invisibleaznDJ]

Y'alls last round of videos is costing me a lot of money!!!!!!

[@stingersswarm]

Give me them doll hairs. Lolol. But for real use my links lol.

[@DonaldReynoldsII]

Need to know if that transmitter will work with a pro or air for all around savings!! need that shirt!!

[@stingersswarm]

Link in the description bro!!

[@DonaldReynoldsII]

@@stingersswarm got two!

[@sf2372]

If you are struggling to ID any latency it must be pretty good.

[@catsarewaytoocool]

Really love your studio setup!

[@stingersswarm]

Thanks man!!

[@Victor90NOR]

If it had a separate vtx/camera system without the onboard 1080p recording in a smaller package I would empty my pockets easily. Hero7, Crossfire, my old trusty taranis hall effect gimbals and this dji HD fpv feed would be freaking awesome 🔥🔥🤯

[@kaksniemi78]

What frame did you use it? Nice video.

[@DJDevine]

Love the enthusiasm! And the future...Cheers

[@BirdlessFlight]

I really hope they come out with a JR module or something in the future, that controller looks huge :(

[@friederek]

Al die eisen man 😜

[@stingersswarm]

They sell a package without the controller to be used with your controller of choice. But I believe that reduces the range of the video feed somehow.

[@tonyh6438]

I thank it’s only getting better from here.

[@BOTGRINDER]

i like my static though it makes me feel more connected to my quad.

[@stingersswarm]

I’m not ready to give up my Unify and crossfire yet either but I like seeing development on the hd and digital side of things.

[@HomeGrownCanadianFPV]

lol

[@GUILLERMO.NESPOlO]

that static its not your analog signal its your brain that its all ready fried .......

[@GUILLERMO.NESPOlO]

@@stingersswarm check out " teradek " its the video trasmiter we use in cinema the have a transmitter working on 4k all ready for shure with time price will drope on this

[@BOTGRINDER]

@@GUILLERMO.NESPOlO (:

[@yuewang4581]

Does the system support osd function for FCs like betaflight or raceflight？

[@stingersswarm]

They do. It isn't through the FC it is through a UART with an MSP connection so you can see telemetry in the osd and change pids etc.

[@snowballfpv7583]

A review in 6 months time will really see how well they are doing .

[@Disc_gD]

is it just me or do the 2 side 3rd's of the screen look blocky. is this a dji thing or youtube.

[@stingersswarm]

They are, this is Focus mode. It was more clear in the documentation after release. With Focus Mode on it preserves higher quality in the center of the image as the signal degrades.

[@Disc_gD]

@@stingersswarm okaycsimillar to the crossfire's dynamic power. Now heres a good question and you may or mat not know but what's the power consumption on the air unit and camera like.

[@frederikvanreusel]

DJI FPV System Me: “My dream comes true, i can finely be antman”

[@Brokewokejoke]

Lol

[@Dieseltorq]

Awesome review!! Been watching you for 3 years now and I have to say I've never got any kind of motion sickness before. This dji set tho for what ever reason gives me mild motion sickness watching. What would cause that?

[@stingersswarm]

Higher frame rate than I usually film in and that quad was kinda janky.

[@triggermovies]

If they can come up with a modular version of the system (Fatshark-style module for goggles and JR-style module for radios), I feel like they'd have a killer product. Right now, I'm afraid you'd lock yourself into the DJI ecosystem.

[@mikev2116]

They operate on 5.8ghz so you can use your fatsharks, and It's supposed to be able to bind with crossfire radios, and you will be floored how detailed the image is with FS goggles! They may have a killer product here!!

[@nabbsone]

it will not work with fatsharks.

[@triggermovies]

I doubt it will work with CrossFire as well... I don't know where Mike V got his infos, but it's most likely (i.e. 99.9%) wrong.

[@nabbsone]

you can use any control you want .. the controller is optional but you will basically be carrying an extra receiver for no reason

[@topcatgc1]

Nice review Stinger, quality and picture look good for a V1, V2 will be good in the future🍻

[@djdubz]

can you use the headset with our current vtxs? (e.g. tbs unify, akk ultimate, etc)

[@stingersswarm]

I'm not sure. I'll have to give it a try.

[@djdubz]

@@stingersswarmVery interested to see your results! That will be a video no one has done yet with everyone reviewing these today :) (doubt I'll give up my hdo's but who knows)

[@onepunchndown]

Are there different levels to this system? Since its AIO I assume so. Great review man thanks!

[@TeddyH79]

Did you fit this system into a Stingy frame? If not, which one, or what would you recommend?

[@fongfpv738]

Teddy Hutcherson flywoo Croc frame

[@feralfpv8381]

I think I'll wait to see if Stingy makes this is daily driver

[@darrenwhitaker1015]

Pushing the technology forward is a good thing. I'm not switching, but I'm excited to see what systems get built on the back of this.

[@Spydaw]

Great video, thank you so much for sharing, newbie here ;) Love the shirt! I would like to know the Pros vs Cons of using your own TX vs DJI's TX

[@dietervdw]

The focus mode is exactly the function that drops the quality on the sides. They explain that on their website, you don't seem to understand it. Just FYI. Pretty ingenious.

[@stingersswarm]

Yeah. I've seen that now. All the info they gave reviewers about that was that it "improves clarity" that is why we were all confused.

[@BlasterDavo]

How did you mount the camera to the standoffs? Just pre-ordered the Stingy V2 FC and looking at running this.

[@technoxtreme178]

Some of the framerate and side graininess is from heat issues and the system "throttling down" frame rate and quality....essential that the quads themselves need to be re-designed so that the VTX receives cooling on all six sides of the VTX cube. I worked with Connex for the longest time, and heat is the enemy because of the needed bandwidth for HD....quad designers now need to design like race car engineers...more cooling!

[@MrPsyfresh]

Am gonna wait for TBS to come with a Similar product.

[@splinterl8754]

Thanks for the honest info. Super excited to see how this compares to their current goggle system for their drone line. It is pretty awesome!!! I am even more excited to see what Fatshark does to be competitive!!!

[@meytimeshki]

Could you please let me have your permission to use your video in my online store ?

[@rightcoastbias]

Definitely my favorite of the HD FPV release videos. Practical information. I'll be sticking with analog. Speaking of practical! Still rocking the Fit. As a Honda Fit owner, I have to wonder why you haven't upgraded to a sports car like Steele, Ummagawd, Bardwell, etc?

[@ratsemor]

I was one of many who couldn't see in their race goggles even with glasses, So I wonder if this will be the case with these as well?

[@stingersswarm]

That’s an excellent question. I can confirm there is no way to wear glasses under these goggles. Also it doesn’t appear to support swapping the diopters for prescription ones. I could be wrong but I don’t really want to go prying on mine.

[@215cyclone]

I may have missed it somewhere...So no more regular VTX channels like raceband etc ?? No video conflicts would be huge !

[@stingersswarm]

I wouldn't say no conflicts. They are using the same 5.8ghz band. There will be interference on some channels.

[@christianprogrammer9131]

Daymnnn Fooo how do you NOT have the supra cool 3D printed antennae mount that smoky err I mean Drew had on his demo of the Air unit's antennas. Yours is all gettto Uggg Stingy c'mon

[@stingersswarm]

Haha!! they didn't send me them pieces and I don't have a 3d printer 🤷‍♂️

[@BlasterDavo]

Great overview of this! Just wanted to check, you mentioned you had it on a 4s build, can you use it on a 6s build?

[@JimBoRamaWickyWo]

David Shannon 17volt Max input volts to the air unit. 4s or a 1 amp 12 volt bec to step down from 6S...

[@BlasterDavo]

JimBoRamaWickyWo couldn’t you just run power from your FC if it got an output over 7.4V?

[@JimBoRamaWickyWo]

@@BlasterDavo Not sure if the bec on a FC can support that much current.

[@BlasterDavo]

JimBoRamaWickyWo Good point, something to double check then!

[@JediDrift515]

I keep staring at that shirt! I just need where to buy it Stingy?!!!

[@5zero7RC]

Someone is going to make a bit of money selling cool stickers to go on those goggles.

[@stingersswarm]

Dang. Good idea. Let me fire up photoshop. Lolol

[@touchthesun2448]

I can see FLY EYES!!!!!

[@5zero7RC]

@@touchthesun2448 Exactly what I was thinking!

[@mikegrimsley9017]

I get a Star Wars vibe from them, maybe some blaster marks.

[@5zero7RC]

@@mikegrimsley9017 That and a storm trooper sticker wrap or color scheme.

[@j.finesseflights1403]

Careful what you say... I've seen your spots!! You say lets get together and fly sometime and I'll freakin be there this weekend 😂😂...SERIOUSLY THO!!

[@pacificnorthwestpilots6050]

Dope fpv system. I can't wait until other cam companies like foxeer, runcam, etc.. get into hd fpv.

[@esaedvik]

Fatshark released theirs a day later :D

[@ummagawdFPV]

studio game on point, review game on point, beard game...... on point!

[@TheMadmacs]

very exciting product, can't wait for the eachine version hehehe. i wonder why we cant split lets say an eagle micro sensor into two seperate analogue signals then out through two vtx's and recombine them on the goggles for a higher res fpv feed

[@prrcpor]

It's looks cool. if that reciever/video transmitter is reliable it's worth investment

[@stingersswarm]

I need way more testing before I’ll be swapping everything over. It is cool tech though for sure.

[@prrcpor]

@@stingersswarmif it's practical and reliable Its actually not bad price for all you get. Full HD Goggles, radio, and video tranmitter, controle reciever combined I think. I'm still using dom v3s . Works fine . haven't seen a big reason to switch. This would definitely be a reason!

[@PropsOff]

Very well done.. Propsoff to ya.. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@MCsCreations]

Well... It's looking pretty great! 😃

[@wdavie27]

Kev how much dose this full dji system cost lol

[@brokenprop2474]

What, no giveaway? 😂

[@mrozu1337]

Funny, how pixelating the sides effect is visible here, because you have props in view :D Like unintentional, but very beneficial to the review. Yup, spinning props are consuming the bitrate, so it's not ideal to have them in view. Same 720p60 could be achieved with 0-1Mbps when the picture is still, and 1.33Gbps !!! when the picture is not compressed (or every frame is "base").

[@stingersswarm]

This is also a function of "Focus Mode" it became more clear in the documentation after release what exactly it is doing. It preserves the image quality in the center as the signal degrades. Gonna do some testing with focus mode off this weekend.

[@808GT]

DJI knocked it out of the park and just stabbed Fatshark in the heart.

[@stingersswarm]

I wouldn’t go that far. Stay tuned for my follow up video.

[@chrisyork3714]

Nice work brother

[@hildy2222]

Chris York Nice and biased. Unsubbed

[@theibault]

Stingy, you ACTUALLY look like a Bee wearing those! I think it's your beard that set it all off. ;)

[@bigdatapimp]

I was thinking that too! Like one of the bad guys from The Tick. 😂

[@A3Kr0n]

I wish the Mavic goggles would work with that and save me a bunch of money.

[@Perceivedshift]

Still looks like you were running 25mW, I can fly an entire park in HQ mode without dropping frames with the stock antennas.

[@ShiftingPerspective-Outdoors]

But, will they add some kind of GPS to this system to not allow you to fly in "Restricted airspace" AKA not take off anywhere near an airport even if you're only gonna fly 50ft off the ground.

[@PortalFPV]

This would be really neat if it could pair with a Mavic or Phantom. Looks much better than the Oculus

[@stingersswarm]

Yeah that would be cool.

[@mafracao]

Honestly DJI just done much more than it needed to, making it more expensive and therefore harder to sell. A digital video link with fatshark module would cost a fraction of the actual product, and would sell muuuuuch easier.

[@stingersswarm]

I wish they could fit it in a fat shark module bay.

[@HattashFpv]

First! Edit: I thought I was first Edit: I guess you can use your own radio Edit: I would totally use this The killer for me is that you have to use the DJI Controller. I like my Taranis with crossfire and the confidence that I get with it. Oh and it’s $1,000. This is an amazing product though, just for me the pros don’t outweigh the cons.

[@stingersswarm]

Almost

[@HattashFpv]

StingersSwarm It does 16:9 too? All the other videos were in 4:3. That is very nice HD

[@stingersswarm]

Yeah it's like the only thing I changed from stock lol. I get it. It is pricey. They do sell a kit without the radio and you use your existing radio setup and only use the DJI system for video.

[@HattashFpv]

StingersSwarm Really? That’s awesome! In some other reviews I had thought they said you had to use the controller.

[@HattashFpv]

Kaz Bridges Yeah that’s pretty good. Maybe I will upgrade to it some time from my box goggles and $20 camera. It would save me money from not having to buy GoPro’s