DJI Osmo Pocket 3 vs Sony ZV-E1

[@DavidZhou]

What are your thoughts on the video quality from the DJI Osmo Pocket 3? 🤔

[@adriansoworka9283]

The Pocket has a crazy quality for this size. However, I see it purely as a vlogging camera. Due to the 20mm lens there is little variation in the shots. I would only wish that you could also film vertically with the full sensor in 4K.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@adriansoworka9283 You can get an L bracket for vertical :) - Also, you can set up guide lines on the screen to frame vertical content while filming landscape, there is enough resolution in the 4k to crop the image for vertical video as Instagram is limited to 1080p.

[@andrewsytek]

I don’t want to like the Osmo… but the more I see, the more I’m legitimately impressed…

[@seanp2k617]

It’s a legitimately fantastic little cam for recording family stuff and little hiking vlogs. It does actually fit comfortably inside the slim half-case in a normal-sized jeans front pocket too.

[@DigiDriftZone]

I looked more into this: - Osmo3 is 20mm f/5.4 equiv - iPhone 15Pro main camera is 24mm f/6.3 equiv (1.2x focal length, 1.17x aperture, so more or less same depth of field / light gathering as Osmo3) - ZV-E1 with 20mm f/2.8 gives you 4x the light gathering and shallow depth of field (and flexility to use even faster lenses) So compared to the iPhone 15Pro, the Osmo 3 gives you a wider image with physical stabilisation with more or less the same depth of field and low light performance. You can match this performance on the ZV-E1 by setting the 20mm lens to f/5.4.

[@dougmorato]

When you’re shooting videos, the iPhone main camera isn’t 24mm anymore. You can clearly see the difference in FoV changing modes - photo to video (especially combined with the EIS). So the difference between the iPhone and the pocket 3 isn’t that close actually.

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@dougmorato Actually, yes, you are very right, it's more like 28mm as it crops in for the stabilisation, which also means you are losing a bit of depth field considering the focal length change, it then becomes more like a 28mm f/7.

[@andrewsytek]

New Challenge: Shoot a wedding film on the DJI Osmo.

[@tjsopoci]

Check NVU films. He's already done it

[@petpixies]

Did anyone notice the cute squirrel running in the background at 2:32 ? 😍

[@DennisPoulette]

Funny I watched this video because of the title and then recognized the fountain at USF. Didn't even know you were there until I saw the student center. Thanks for the informative comparison.

[@DavidZhou]

Glad you enjoyed, and Go Bulls! 🤘🏼haha

[@HomeToursSingapore]

For face tracking mode, how did you get it to follow you 360 degrees? Mine can only do you 180 degrees

[@adz-ql6kv]

$519-$669 dollars vs basically $3000+++ with a lens + mic + gimble. ... that's what you're looking at here and pocket 3 can fit in the palm of your hand and in flashlight mode is relatively inconspicuous when you're filming around other people. that's what i like about it the most.

[@schoeferfilm]

I normally Film with the FX6 and since two weeks I have the small ZVE1 too and I really love it 😍 I think it depends on what you want to produce 🎥 the OP3 is definitely a great small cam for holidays but I think both are different cams

[@Lancefrei]

Consider if you need quick setup time for gimbal video (complete with balancing the gimbal with your DLSR-sized camera), the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 is the kind if tool I want to use. On many of my shoots, I have only a certain amount of time to get everything done for a client. It all depends on what you're using the camera for, but this looks like a wonderful setup for maximum efficiency and results that should do the job on most shoots. And for around $500? No brainer.

[@ScottsReviews]

I have both and I am thinking of selling by ZVE1. My set up would be a7rv, Pocket 3 and GP12. Put that 2000 into a new lens. Hmmmm

[@DavidZhou]

While I personally like having the ZV-E1 as my “smaller rig” and my a7S3 as my “big rig”, $2k for a new lens is pretty tempting

[@dylannolan7454]

I didn’t 4:56 give this camera a chance because I thought the footage would look like crap but it looks great…. What a cool tool. For a journalist (what I do for a living) this seems like a great tool. I don’t have the ability to carry a stabilizer to most shoots, but this would allow me to get those kind of shots from a camera that takes less space in my bag than a lens. Might be time to integrate one of these into the workflow.

[@CanditoTrainingHQ]

Wow, I knew Sony color science had a bad reputation, but that first clip really showed its well-earned. Sony looked absolutely dead (and yellow). Of course all if fixable in color grading with 422.

[@DavidZhou]

All hail fixing it in post 😂

[@tennissir1986]

Another Sony hater. S-Cinetone in Sony’s full frames has always been reviewed as good as anything out of Canon or Nikon.

[@andrewsytek]

Wow. Both Osmo mics put that ZV-E1 to shame.

[@seanp2k617]

You can get the Sony ECM-W3S wireless mics that go on the Multi Interface digital shoe. Not quite as seamless or compact as the OP2 plus up to 2x DJI Mic 2s but still pretty slick.

[@DigiDriftZone]

Other than the fully auto mode, did you have your Viltrox wide open at f/2.8 the whole time? - I'm surprised by the depth of field of the Osmo Pocket 3, have you tried to match it against the Viltrox? - To my eye, it looks to roughly match 20mm f/5.6 or f/6.3 maybe?

[@ChChCheckIt]

I know for a fact he wasn’t shooting at f/2.8- he probably stopped the camera up to around f/5.6 to match the osmo! I have both of these cameras as well, and as amazing as the osmo is- it doesn’t fully stack up to the ZV-e1. For the price though, it’s truly amazing!

[@DigiDriftZone]

@@ChChCheckIt Makes sense! - on paper it should be f/5.6 to get similar depth of field so I was surprised to see in some shots the depth of field difference wasn't as pronounced as it should have been :)

[@DavidZhou]

For the most part (besides the lowlight test), I remembered to match the Osmo Pocket 3 at f/5.6 to get a better comparison!

[@DigiDriftZone]

​@@DavidZhou Ah! - I guess then the main question is how often would you choose to film talking head and other type of content on your ZV-E1 at f/5.6? :) That's a bit of a double edged sword on the Osmo3 (and iPhone), sometimes you want f/13 for landscapes or to get nice sunstars or for macro (iPhone uses the f/10 equiv super wide for Macro for that reason). Sometimes you want to open up that aperture to get better object/subject separation and low light. But with Osmo you're stuck at f/5.6 forever (and f/6.3 on the iPhone), so you're not just limited on the focal length, but on the aperture too. This is actually why I personally went to the ZV-E1 from APS-C previously, the f/2.8 zooms on APS-C are huge and heavy and in terms of light gathering and shallow depth of field, the f/4 zooms on full frame beat them while being smaller, lighter and cheaper! What should be quite scary to APS-C manufacturers is you get a better image in literally every sense of the word (low light, dynamic range, noise, resolution, etc) using an iPhone 15Pro Raw vs a flagship Fuji X-H2 with their best 16-80mm zoom wide open at 16mm f/4 (24mm f/6 equiv), that's insane! - this probably applies to the Pocket3 too, though we're still waiting on the dynamic range tests.

[@DavidZhou]

@@DigiDriftZone I think you just helped sum up what I've been thinking about over the past few weeks while shooting with the Pocket 3! The fixed aperture, similar to the iPhone 15 Pro, along with the fixed focal length, is the biggest "weakness" of the Pocket 3. It doesn't make it a bad camera, just a camera that's great at a few specific shooting scenarios/types of shots. When compared to a versatile interchangeable lens camera, it just can't compete when used outside of it's intended use cases. Same argument goes for APS-C vs. Full-Frame, just to a much smaller degree.

[@yamahass66]

Did you have -2 all the time in this video on pocket 3?

[@DavidZhou]

Every time except during the Stabilization & Active Track tests because I had forgotten-you also can’t adjust it if you’re in Low Light mode 😁

[@yamahass66]

Did you have -2 on sharpness in all the tile in this video?

[@teaching-learning]

Thanks for the video David. The Pocket seems surprisingly good for the size.

[@dougmorato]

So the OP3 has a wider FoV than a 20mm FF? It looks wider in the video… that ZV-E1 is soooo good! But we can’t deny how well OP3 did.

[@DavidZhou]

OP3 has equivalent FoV to 20mm FF and can get to 15mm w/ the wide angle adapter-IMO the ZV-E1 is the better camera because it’s more versatile but yeah it’s crazy how good these tiny sensor cameras are getting!

[@RogerByrne]

Funny this popped up, I literally just sent my zv-e1 and 20mm1.8 back and bought the pocket.

[@DavidZhou]

How’re you liking it?

[@RogerByrne]

@@DavidZhou I’m no pro and the Sony was too much for me, early days but the weight and size is great as I camp and have a ton of other gear.

[@TheMaan2008]

Not sure if I should return my ZV-E1 now :( & get this instead?? Then!

[@DavidZhou]

If you like your ZV-E1, I wouldn’t! Unless you really need that higher megapixel count for photography!

[@ripcityheroes9046]

It's not even close lol. ZV E1 image quality is much better

[@DavidZhou]

ZV-E1 definitely wins for versatility of the images you can create, but if you’re going for casual shooting, it’s surprising how good the footage from the OP3 looks

[@petersuvara]

Soo... apparently the 10bit DLogM dynamic range is actually less than the standard normal mode. Go figure. That log profile must crunch the output somewhere. Everyone is saying to stick to the normal profile and ignore the D-LogM.

[@SeanHuangRealEstate]

Dlogm is different from Dlog. DJI is misleading everyone.

[@LowDoughTech]

The Sony has better separation, and that's it. $1700 better separation...no. Not really. The Osmo Pocket has more pleasing color, and much better stabilization, but that's to be expected with a gimbal head.

[@artmiranda8085]

If you're a vlogger then hands down the pocket 3 is the best because of the ease of use.

[@thefowlyetti2]

bought pocket 3, selling a7s iii. Thats what I think.

[@one901]

The pocket looks better in pretty much every situation you put it in. Could be your color grading on the Sony but it doesn’t look very good at all.

[@DavidZhou]

Only color corrected both to Rec.709 for all comparison shots (or they were shot on full auto, so no correction applied). Only color graded clips are the intro and outro (7:44 and on) clips.

[@expresscontent4346]

Wow, forget about the price for a moment. The OSMO Pocket 3 looks great, very stabilized, small/light and comes with a gimbal and external mic (with extra package). The OSMO wins in many side by side comparison. Works really well and very usable for casual users and traveling . When you add the price to the mix, there is no comparison. It wins over the Sony by a long shot.

[@DavidZhou]

Exactly, it makes it a really solid beginner video camera (or if you just want a super compact package for travel)!

[@davidvictory9764]

cant decide to get zve1 to have 1 camera do everything or save and get the pocket with a 12 35 lens for my gh5 as b cam

[@davidvictory9764]

I can't decide to get zve1 for everything, primarily vlogging. or get pocket 3 and a 12-35 lens for my gh5 as a b cam.

[@DavidZhou]

GH5 has better IBIS for walking+talking shots, plus switching camera brands feels like a bigger move. On top of that, I personally think OP3 is a fantastic vlogging camera and you could cut footage together with that plus your GH5 footage for dynamic content!

[@davidvictory9764]

@@DavidZhou ok great I'll just settle for that then. thanks

[@lonceysbusiness333]

Cheers so much for your hard efforts 😊 Waiting for a 18 to 70 pocket zoom version haha 😂❤

[@DavidZhou]

Id love that 😂

[@MAGPASIKATVLOG]

Watching your video idols,i like it ,i wish someday.

[@adz-ql6kv]

DJI active track isn't 360 degrees it's 270. you can test it yourself there's a limit... but 270 is close enough for me. :D

[@DavidZhou]

I added a lil on screen note that said 275 degrees when I said it, realized it as I was editing haha

[@adz-ql6kv]

:D@@DavidZhou

[@cinematicsenses]

very nice comparison

[@DavidZhou]

Glad you liked it!

[@jhoffman81]

Man, something in this audio has WICKED static unless you filmed this in a rain storm

[@DavidZhou]

Think you’re hearing the fountain on campus in the background

[@worldchampion]

Pocket 3 is a winner❤

[@xPocketStaff]

i upload 2 cinematic video from pocket 3 :)

[@DavidZhou]

Just checked it out, really well shot!

[@shaemilq9975]

8:11

[@GatherFaithMinistries]

Honestly who cares if it's grainly if it's for KZbin 😂 we not shooting a cinema movie anyway 😂

[@GatherFaithMinistries]

One Sony can buy 4x pocket 3 so do the math 😂 I feel to use Sony to KZbin vlog is overkill 😂 yes u get sharper image with better lens but u using a cheap lens which I am surprised that you willing to spend $2k for body but only $120+ for lens?

[@DavidZhou]

Just wanted to compare a “budget” Sony setup to the OP3 😁 didn’t want to make the Sony side like 8x the price of the OP3 haha

[@GatherFaithMinistries]

@@DavidZhou I just feel it would be good if u did a challenge to film only through osmo pocket 3, so to tell people it's not about just hardware but the skill to videography

[@z352kdaf8324]

How much legitimacy to claims of the rotating screen having problems already...

[@DavidZhou]

I haven't had issues with mine, but I also haven't beat it up as much as the rest of my gear. I've seen a few reports of issues with theirs, but it's been a vast minority from what I can tell. Still something to be aware of but not extremely prevalent.

[@Ntthaibk]

okay 1 thing to notice on Osmo 3 is the quality is not that different from footage from my old iphone 13 pro max... and the only usage of it is to take walking talking head, you can't zoom at all (2x digital zoom is suck) so in real life scenario it's worse than 13 pro max with 3x optical zoom + 15x digital zoom. Sold the thing early so I just lose 10% of the price (rarely use) and get an old ZVE10 + 18-50 2.8 which is world different in video quality

[@DavidZhou]

It definitely has it's time and place, it's great for wide shots and "standard gimbal shots". It won't have the versatility of optical zoom so I treat it like an advanced point and shoot camera with solid dynamic range. Even though I've been shooting with it a lot more recently, it still won't replace my Sony cameras (except for in niche scenarios to get footage in places that don't allow "pro" cameras with detachable lenses, like concerts).

[@SeanHuangRealEstate]

The skin tone on Sony always looks green. Sigh.

[@khanajli]

4🎉

[@HansWurst-iq9xe]

You compare a toy and the zve1…

[@DavidZhou]

I wouldn’t consider the Osmo Pocket 3 a toy, it’s a less powerful piece of gear but it definitely has scenarios it would excel in depending on your use case. Same reason I wouldn’t vlog with a Sony Burano even though it’s better than the ZV-E1 😂

[@raywu6787]

In your video 0:51, Sony ZV-E1 produced fake color! A pieces of junk if it can not make the color right.

[@DavidZhou]

What do you mean fake color??

[@lwslwieserce]

DJI Osmo Pocket 3 WINNER Sony ZV-E1 with its price for body + lens + accessories it LOSES

[@DavidTramacchi]

I think the Pocket 3 video seems a bit mushy and may fall apart quicker? Again I'm looking at KZbin uploads but it seems to but Full Frame is still king.

[@tuvichuanhangngay]

i dont like fullfame. Big And heavy

[@DutchyTrailBlaze]

Liar