DmC: Devil May Cry - The Reboot Nobody Asked For

[@thegatek33p3r3]

The brothers Damian and Vincent.

[@unappealingpig8592]

DAVE N VIN

[@SageRuffin]

That's legit the same thing I call them.

[@ejm1225]

Don'te and Vergin

[@4007a]

cain and abel

[@JustBrandon-i]

Diddy and Vinny

[@ThatRandomDude204]

If it wasn't a reboot of Devil May Cry it would've been a kickass hack and slash game all on its own

[@LeanneKrv]

Exactly. The gameplay was genuinely fun but since it's a DMC reboot that's killing the already good written characters, the game ended up bad.

[@nerostriker1033]

Agreed, slap a new game title and chance some characters names and it won't get nearly as much hate

[@Crim-kun]

if it was a cyberpunk anarchy type of game yeah

[@kiyanoshpazooki2193]

Nah the gameplay was horrible too,A recurring scenario.heavy weapons that break shield and low dmg weapons that dont deal much dmg.how familiar... Oh wait i have played tons of games like that before 👎

[@jurtheorc8117]

Check out Soulstice! It's taken gameplay inspirations from both DMC: DmC and DMC5 alike, as well as some bits of Bayonetta. Tone seems more in line with Darksiders. Has its shortcomings but it's a very solid game with a good story and a lot to offer! It also makes the color coding much more managable: You simply cast a forcefield around yourself and all seven total weapons are equally viable against any enemy. Some more than others. Big sword, giant hammer, punch daggers, whip and some others.

[@pekee3289]

"Going from wacky woohoo pizza man to edgy whatever alcoholic man" is the perfect way to sum up what went wrong with DmC

[@Samdoesstuff553]

Then 5 came out and things were back as they should be

[@Me-jf2oo]

kinda funny how edgy whatever alcoholic man describes anime dante

[@ShinobiX8]

Most people don't know DMC started with the first game and not the third. Wacky woohoo pizza girl is the fanfic version of Dante and the reboot was a different take on the cool, stylish devil hunter people refuse to see Dante as. That's not Ninja Thoery's fault.

[@pekee3289]

@@ShinobiX8 Considering Dante is pretty "wacky woohoo" in DMC4 and 5, I'd say it's a bit more than just a "fanfic" take on the character. Also what do you mean people refuse to see Dante as "cool and stylish devil hunter"? Like the whole point is that he's stylish/cool and hilariously over-the-top. That's why people didn't like the reboot Dante, 'cus they didn't think he was anywhere near as cool, stylish or fun as the OG Dante.

[@kotzer71]

​@@ShinobiX8pretty shit take ngl

[@birdquest8695]

What’s weird about Donte is that if you wear the classic Dante outfit, then he looks like a weird cross between DMC4 Nero and DMC5 Nero wearing Dante’s clothes.

[@swr.nezumi]

calling dante by a different name every time was for some reason one of the funniest things about this video for me

[@aWraithsSoul]

"I am the Rain-storm dis-si-pa~ ting, De-esca-la~ting, blue skies in, Com~ pa-ny~" - Redittor Vergin. Probably. Maybe. Surely.

[@Ryuuko-chan]

I can't believe I tried to sing that, and then felt offended

[@florida_man11]

lol same😭

[@aWraithsSoul]

@@Ryuuko-chan You're welcome, I tried to make it fit as best I could! :P

[@Ryuuko-chan]

@@aWraithsSoul I think is perfect 😂💙

[@Jonathan-Shadow]

The chair definitely got replaced with a gaming chair at the Quiloth.

[@Darkseany]

Vergin: Wears a fedora and calls it "the Yam-atto" Any Vergil fan ever: Commits World of V

[@MoriDemonBornInHeaven]

What happened with the 4th?

[@orangebjort5222]

Vergin?! 😩

[@RonPaul42069]

Tbf the original Vergil pronounces it wrong too. Nero pronounces it differently than everyone else, and correctly.

[@Darkseany]

@@RonPaul42069 Dante pronounces it two different ways in dmc 5 for some reason. I can tolerate "Yama-toe" and "ya-motto-" But "yam-ATTO" is sin.

[@delusion5867]

@@Darkseany also i still dont know if its "the yamato" or just "yamato", it changes every 10 seconds

[@TF2Fan101]

Who else is tired of the mindset that ‘Mature=Swearing and Graphic Violence every five seconds.’?

[@KaedeLanyo]

It's not even a matter of content, just _density._ Excessive swearing loses its punch, no matter the intended tone. Violence... Depends, but there is a point where it becomes more crass than anything, too.

[@viscountrainbows2857]

Hear hear. If anything, the Bell Curve of "Mature content" misses the bump and skiis down into adolescent puerility but technically only saleable to adults that should have grown out of that energy already.

[@asdergold1]

It was for modern western audiences. What did anyone expect?

[@ryujisama]

I don't mind excessive graphic violence if it's part of the "joke" of the product. Like the movie Shoot 'em Up, for instance. Simple plot loaded with dumb violence to turn your brain off and enjoy? I'm down. But excessive cursing in ANY type of script is just bad writing. If over 85% of your characters' speaking lines are just F-bombs, to show how edgy and "mature" your characters are, you need to re-write the script... badly...

[@inkchariot6147]

DmC is what America thinks maturity is.

[@cthulhista4052]

Fun fact: Ninja Theory was very afraid of changing Dante too much but every time they sowed their ideas to the Capcom bosses, the answer was "make him more different."

[@Noblesix84]

This was the first Devil May Cry game I ever played, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. Threw me for a bit of a loop when I learned it was the black sheep of the series

[@CharlesAlexander0]

Id say the black sheep is DMC 2

[@ahmed4363]

​@@CharlesAlexander0at least this one had fun gameplay

[@lilapotato4815]

Love the last part "I can not accept him as dante he never got impaled in the hole game"

[@_Tzer]

vergil dlccccc

[@gergopahollo]

We don’t know what happened with him and the strippers, he might have 🤷🏻

[@joeszymanski3540]

I don't know if "hole" was a typo ....but it's better that way😂.

[@stiimuli]

whole

[@jasonterre1056]

This game's rep made everyone accept Nero, his initial reception was mixed, even negative, to some. But this game's "interpretation" elevated DMC 5 once it was revealed.

[@zarthemad8386]

... and even more sinister.... made people forgive the opera in DMC4

[@_Tzer]

its cuz dmc dontes personality is just more dickish nero

[@aleksandrsiv6099]

Peoples hate towards Nero when DMC 4 come out was more of fact that most players want to play as Dante, rather than he was a bad character. He wasn't perfect, sure, but not bad either. People was just afraid that Nero gonna replace Dante back then, that where most negativity comes from.

[@keigoftw]

The interaction between the reboot and 5 is fascinating. How the later has actually given some catharsis and allowed people to engage with the reboot as its own separate thing.

[@austinwilliams7180]

Virgil: Where's your motivation? Vyrgil: Where's my fedora?

[@crazyRAY1]

It's Vergil not Virgil

[@jakomioftherose2434]

​@@crazyRAY1Virgin. Not Vergil.

[@AnakinSkywalker-u5b]

​@@jakomioftherose2434 Nope! It's Vergin, the Beta & the Incel.

[@crazyRAY1]

@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b 🤣

[@crazyRAY1]

@@jakomioftherose2434 🤣

[@linksbro1]

The level going into the news broadcast to fight the media demon was one of the coolest level executions I've ever seen in ANY game.

[@gibleyman]

The upside down city INSIDE a frickin reflection right before that boss is also absolute peak and probably my favourite ever visually. Level design in general is something this game nails. Mainline Dmc has the issue of looking cool in the first half but falling off in the second part. DmC however finds ways to keep things somewhat interesting even by the end.

[@Renatinho12ful]

this game was solid. Dmc fans just like to talk it down because it farms engagement

[@darknight10000]

​@Renatinho12ful Dude, people genuinely didn't like the game. It's not about "driving engagement ". There's a reason DmC never got a sequel, and we got Devil May Cry 5 instead.

[@premiumdaytpra]

@@darknight10000 theres DmC shit in DMC 5

[@darknight10000]

@@premiumdaytpra Even if there is they still decided to use the original series for the next big entry for the series. And what DmC content are you referencing? I don't remember anything from that game in DMC5.

[@Snomrade]

Donte is closer to what I imagine Nero was like in middle school

[@falconeshield]

You don't diss our boi like that

[@Snomrade]

@@falconeshield I do like Nero but he DEFINITELY had an edgy middle school phase

[@delta54]

yea definitely what i was thinking, this Donte reminds me of Nero the way he acts

[@spacecatghostboi776]

Come to think of it he actually never did get stabbed in the chest. That’s like the one crucial thing about being Dante

[@_Tzer]

vergil dlc debatably

[@DancingAngelOfSpira]

I didn't even realise until it was pointed out 😂

[@RandomGuy-dt2em]

Vyrgil is more like Dante than his lil bro💀

[@kaosu326]

It's like the DMC equivalent to the Skywalker family rule. "Each male (or identifying as male) must lose his arm."

[@arushamshafeeq9428]

The fact that this was the same year as mgr confirms that the news guy is senator armstrongs twin

[@elhidancazador7245]

And the final boss is "Sundowner", when in "MGR" is just another boss

[@arushamshafeeq9428]

@@elhidancazador7245 mundus doesn't look like sundowner

[@SolidFish23]

​@@arushamshafeeq9428 Are you sure about that

[@RudoMike21]

Not to mention it's a month before Metal Gear Rising Revengeance release date

[@gyrozeppeli00]

Spot on Vergil impression, the real Virgil not the fedora one

[@crimsondragon9099]

Both are Vergil

[@Lardsonian]

@@crimsondragon9099 vergin*

[@idontwanttobefishingforfish]

Dentist and Vötgil

[@LexingtonRoseG]

"I don't know who I am anymore" That perfectly sums up DmC

[@falconeshield]

If Andrew Tate was a game developer, the game:

[@xyrenegade]

I can't with this guy lmao, the impressions with the OG Vergil saying something out of character is fucking sending me ahahahhahahahah

[@Adam-xd9tr]

The several names for Donte already had me laughing, but calling the news anchor "Senator Armstrong's twin who loves the media and celebrity bullshit" was the best part of this video.

[@Hajime790]

Your pitiful comentary and this copium video is so laughable

[@boodledemic6430]

I immediately thought Armstrong when I saw him lol

[@Pokaroquai]

Many people call Bob Barbas as Bill O Reily, but I've always seen him as Armstrong if he got failed to be a senator and decides to be a news reporter, works with someone who's above him

[@oldfan4049]

actually, it's more like "Dawnte" which suits him perfectly XD

[@Pokaroquai]

@@crimsonzone8984 now since you mention it I can't imagine Bob Barbas being an asshole and loves to talk shit about Dante in a jokingly way

[@ShadowPirateX]

I’d also like to mention that another serious breach to Vergil’s character in the hostage situation is the fact he’s not supposed to use guns. He doesn’t like them and thinks they’re “crude” and “unrefined”.

[@vz1270]

Yet he still uses a gun twice in the main franchise aswell... Other than that ... yeah this reboot is so far removed from the main games that its a sin to call it a DMC game

[@iceman1287]

O wow it’s not like this is a Reboot and the characters are supposed to be the same as the original games

[@Glitchedpixel5]

​@@iceman1287just cause it's a reboot doesn't mean the changes are good

[@iceman1287]

@@Glitchedpixel5 If no changes were made then ya’ll would complain about how it’s copying the original

[@aleksandrsiv6099]

@@vz1270 Twice? When was a second? I remember only "Jackpot" scene.

[@mikeoakeshart3823]

Did you know during the development, the director of this game has literally the same haircut, fashion choice and mannerism as Donte? Yeah, this is a self-insert game.

[@elhidancazador7245]

At least, he's gone from the studio, but when during the development from Hellblade 2.

[@steffanofumo]

What we got is the toned down version, the skinny smoking Donte that was in the OG trailer was a complete self insert of Tameem Antoniades lol

[@qudratzazai]

Lmao I remember this he got roasted so bad for that and this game wasn’t even successful because of him

[@AluminumFusion22]

Matt McMuscles and Stop Skeletons From Fighting did a really good video breaking down what exactly went wrong with the Devil May Cry reboot. It came out during the era where Capcom was pandering to Western audiences at the expense of their Japanese audience and so their games were in a weird state back then. It doesn't help that Keiji Inafune, one of Capcom's most prestigious alumni, wanted Capcom to cater to Western gamers completely because he felt like Japan's gaming industry was in sharp decline back then. DmC's director, Tameem Antoinades, straight-up admitted in a pre-release interview that he thought Dante's style was dated and only appealed to a Japanese audience, while ironically making a redesign that caters to an American audience, specifically the Hot Topic, edgelord audience and said he didn't give a damn about how Devil May Cry fans felt about the reboot. In summary, it was a reboot made entirely through spite and ego.

[@HeavySandvichGuy1]

No He didn't self insert. He liked Donte's haircut and got the same one for himself

[@cornm7716]

The Donte in this just feels like Nero doing his best impression of Dante after being called "Deadweight"

[@nicolestack3217]

Funny story: when I beat this game it glitched so Vergin was on the other side of field from Daniel after the final fight.

[@plaguedoctorj.c4963]

Dante went from being the embodiment of "cool" to being what kids at school think is "cool".

[@crimsondragon9099]

DMC4/5 Dante is just a grown up Corey Feldman

[@ridkwngridken3863]

Dude old dmc was that, reboot was much better so stfu

[@stinkfinga4918]

How to tell someone got bullied by the cool kids for doing the naruto run in gym class

[@_Tzer]

more dickish nero with v's hair colour

[@williamsmith6857]

If by "embodiment of cool" you mean every middle school weeb's OC, sure. 😂

[@LouPhonze]

Netflix adaptation is the best description for this fever dream of a game. I didn't hate it but at some points it felt like it hated us

[@DarlingMissDarling]

Dude. 🤯 That's it! I couldn't put my finger on it but goddamn, that's exactly it. It deadass felt like the game hated _us._

[@AluminumFusion22]

​@@DarlingMissDarlingDoesn't help that Tameem Antoinades said in a pre-release interview that he didn't care about what Devil May Cry fans thought of the reveal trailer.

[@falconeshield]

​@@AluminumFusion22Isn't the the guy who reaaaally resembles Daiman in person?

[@vuxxx0]

The dreadful story of DmC gets a lot better and actually watchable with the "El Donte" mod.

[@frogjog8822]

El donté is like a spanish soap opera retelling of devil may cry proper, its really good to see it like that.

[@Silverman160Zero]

"Si, pero llámame me Dánte, el exterminador de demonios!"

[@elhidancazador7245]

"El Donte" wears mexican costume and speaks Spanish from Spain!!

[@LycanCorvid]

it's Dathaniel or Don't 😅🤣

[@alis7763]

A black hole is a region in space where the gravitational pull is so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape from it. They form when massive stars collapse under their own gravity at the end of their life cycles. Black holes can vary in size and mass, ranging from small, stellar-mass black holes to supermassive black holes found at the centers of galaxies.

[@manosp6448]

the ending actually showed some character development for dante. also the music was DOPE

[@ZpectreWasTaken]

*”Drastic Game Changes: Devil May Cry”*

[@qudratzazai]

Biggest change is the director making Dante look like himself 🤣

[@IHateEverybody3]

​@@qudratzazai He doesn't look like Dante, they just barely share haircut. 😭

[@HobbNoblin]

13:36 I like how your shining example of Virgil's code of honor features him striking a pose, showing us his sword, and calling us schkum.

[@JoeMama-n6u]

peak honor

[@iamthemostautisticperson]

"Donte, El exterminador de demonios" is the best name the DMC community could've given him in this game, Great and funny video 2:52

[@PSYMEDIC]

It's just some crazy parallel universe featuring el donte el exterminador de demonios and his wuss of of a brother Vergilio.

[@grotus5549]

Donté, El Exterminador de Demonios is unironically the best thing that's come out of DmC: Devil May Cry.

[@mimi100210]

Some Max0r shit right there fucking love him

[@joaofranco942]

The game is much better in Spanish fr

[@crimsondragon9099]

Nah it’s just a reminder how immature the dmc community still is.

[@ॐIo]

Was a fanatastic game. Favorite level design. Its just such a bummer that it was DmC reboot

[@Qballiz2kool]

The thing about Bob Barbis is, he probably had the hardest boss fight in that game if your playing on Hell & Hell, because one slip up and your out, it was probably one of the most satisfying fights to get 100% right on an attempt because even the devil trigger couldn’t cheese it for you.

[@_Tzer]

super dante op

[@Qballiz2kool]

@@_Tzer He really was, that form of devil trigger could cheese everything but the bosses because they couldn’t be suspended in the air.

[@kushagrachaturvedy2821]

Seeing Vergil in a bowler hat is unreal

[@ElickFlash]

another thing that bugs me about the reboot, is that Vergil has a KNOWN Distaste for guns, to the point he refuses to use one unless he has every intent to disrespect his foe, (Arkham) In this game, Vergil LITERALLY is the one that gives you all your new guns, and you first see him use a gun before he pulls out yamato.

[@kidsthefor]

>hates guns because they are "dishonorable" >spams you with mirage blades from across the room with no need to reload 🤔🤔

[@ElickFlash]

@@kidsthefor Swords aren't Bullet's Silly. Honestly they are more like spells more then anything.

[@max-potato-muncher]

@@kidsthefor Of course, it's the perfect time to say "schkum"

[@chandlerburse]

@@kidsthefor thats why Vergil has no need for guns mirage blades are considered more proper to him

[@Razyeldev]

Devil May Cry the only game that came back from a reboot that almost killed the whole franchise

[@blacky8987]

let be real dmc 4 killed the whole franchise first

[@jdizzy192]

​@blacky8987 Fair but I don't entirely agree. Capcom cutting the games budget but still expecting it to move a ridiculous amount of units just because it was a multi console release is what really killed 4

[@PapaRunebeard]

dragons dogma, saints row, andromeda, inquisition, gotham knights to name a few even more got killed before release

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

@@PapaRunebeard What do you mean by Dragon's Dogma? We only have like 2 games at this point. If you're talking about the BS DLC then no, that didn't stop the game from selling 2.5M 2 weeks after release.

[@Razyeldev]

@@blacky8987 i don't believe that's the case to be honest dmc 4 had a lot of issues but it still innovated the combat and the story was decent + special edition added Trish and Lady

[@CaptainIsNasty]

Cant wait for the Devil May Cry 5 video, I hope you get the 1 with Virgil as a playable character.

[@Cellus5000]

The worst part of this game is that it is so fucking good. They actually kept a lot of the system mechanics they changed for Dmc5, like how the combo counter screams at you, and the slomo last hit for the rooms

[@whossoap355]

This dante is literally the schitzo league streamer with the same name lol

[@mickeybat5816]

I see Dantes comment, I like, simple as that

[@matoiiveyy2005]

HOLY SO TRUE

[@v9idistic]

lowkey looks like him too 😭😭😭

[@Drago_012]

Comparing Dantes to Dante is crazy 💀💀

[@xyrenegade]

The guy who screams at the mice as a persona? Lmao

[@alicekurtina4788]

This game was historical in of itself in gaming.

[@alicekurtina4788]

I couldn't say good history though.

[@viscountrainbows2857]

Pol Pot was also historical. 🫠 This game is a war crime, is the poor taste joke, I guess.

[@Bruh-bk6yo]

@@viscountrainbows2857 and you will never be a history.

[@viscountrainbows2857]

@@Bruh-bk6yo Are you sure? And why?

[@dee_dee4640]

Still better than saints row 2023

[@N1GHTSTRIKER-45]

They Did Best Father Sparda *REAL DIRTY*

[@DianaProudmoore]

He got trapped in the BDSM corner~ Poor dude~

[@CrazyLazyMarie]

​what is up with these "~" symbols my guy

[@Mizzwolf-un1cn]

Oh don't get me started, after that I learned that from my boyfriend I had to take a long 30 minute break because I never seen a character so badly assassinated. Like how can they mess up probably the coolest demon character I ever seen into...whatever that was about? Let's hope daddy Sparda comes back in DMC6.

[@CrazyLazyMarie]

@@Mizzwolf-un1cn Sparda is 100% dead though. But a spin-off game would be cool.

[@Mizzwolf-un1cn]

@@CrazyLazyMarie I know but still, I want more Sparda things

[@Fatal3dge21]

You deserve way more than 126k subs dude, I hope your account continues to grow dude! Seriously one of the best KZbinrs on the platform right now.

[@GameDesignverse]

1:50 DMC devil may cry, no no, Drastic Major Changes,,,,,, explained the game in one line man

[@ariesfaturrahman7982]

"Vergil, a man who drink Motivation Smoothie filled with Protein POWER" Never I heard such ridiculous yet badass title at the same time

[@Z0mb1e_b1te5]

I love how quickly he’s become a huge fan of the series

[@lycaniii1856]

DMC would have been a great opportunity to delve into Donte’s Tony Redgrave persona.

[@DCDsauce]

That's what Bayonetta is for, Luca's dad is named Antonio Redgrave.

[@polandsocks]

11:15 ... Man i can see why she ain't like the rest of succubuses, she gets no pray with whatever is going on with her.

[@RoyFokker93]

5:01 That is true actually, at the time when the developers were questioned about Dante's new design they said that the old Dante was lame, that the "drunk uncle" style was not cool anymore. One of the major causes of the backlash at the time was not the game itself, but the creators mocking the old games and saying that the new DMC was better. If they just kept their mouths shut, the game would probably had a better reception.

[@TCgamerboy2002]

There were things you neglected to mention about the combat that people hated. 1. The color-coded enemies. There are red and blue demons that can only be harmed by demonic and angelic weapons, respectively. Hitting them with the wrong weapon will cause you to stagger, breaking the flow of combat. 2. Lack of hard lock-on. You get a soft lock-on that allows you to attack whatever enemy is nearby. However, you can't change your target, meaning if you're being attacked by a shooting demon from a distance, you can't use your guns on it until a nearby enemy is defeated. 3. Style system. Unlike previous games, your rank system is based on how much damage you can deal. It makes getting SSS rank WAY too easy. You'll be relying on demonic weapons to get it. 4. Devil Trigger. When you use Devil Trigger in this game, enemies are sent flying, which limits your combos. It also freezes enemies. All of these would be rectified in the Definitive Edition.

[@jurtheorc8117]

Hyve Minds released a video on DmC:DMC barely half a day ago that goes into much more depth. Recommend checking him out.

[@TCgamerboy2002]

@@jurtheorc8117 I did, actually. Shortly after posting that comment.

[@jurtheorc8117]

@@TCgamerboy2002 Noice! It's a good video!

[@jazzberry1713]

Well 1 and 4 are fixed on the definitive version of them game, unfortunately pc players don’t have access to that version i think

[@raneerickson3398]

Shoulda played the game in spanish. The Spanish VA for Donte is having the time of his life. Donté, el exterminador de demonios.

[@jojogacha974]

that’s actually a pretty good vergil impression. Seriously sounds almost like Dan southworth himself

[@ZeniV2]

5:09 to add to the Irony they try trashing the Old Dante But his Devil Trigger is basically looking like the OG Dante himself Red Coat and White Hair Like who are they fooling at💀😭😂

[@RulerOfYore]

Not gonna lie I think that was the point especially because his hair goes completely white towards the end😂

[@falconeshield]

He smokes. He never my Dante

[@skarodexttm8249]

The moment where I laughed hardest first was when you called Donte "Danakin". I've been on a Star Wars related binge lately, can you blame me? Actually, no, I laughed whenever you didn't say his name correctly and kept calling him by other names. Such a classic gag! Also, the game characters are pronouncing the main villain's name wrong, I'm just realizing. In the first DMC it's pronounced Muundus (put a special character of the letter 'U' somewhere there) but in here, of DmC, they say his name by the way it's spelled. LAAAAAAAÀAAAAME (where did that special character come from? that was not intentional but I'm keeping it)! I think I'll just do research instead of trying out this one, Cyan. Hope you had fun with whatever hell this was.

[@Jgt612]

I actually think Classic Dante does try to be cool, it just fails every time and we’re sort of in on the joke. Like his dorky ass trying to turn on the jukebox in 3, he’s only doing that to show off, it fails spectacularly, even the demons pause for a bit. Thats endearing, even the Smokin’ Sexy Style beast can botch it.

[@ribiagio98]

Yeah, but he actually is at times, like when he threw his sword down a tower, shot it, ran after it while shooting demons, caught it and jumped off, all while Devils Never Cry was playing in the background.

[@spencerhaveman4117]

@@ribiagio98 and then he gets eaten by a giant sky whale.

[@jackmoseley4959]

Dante IS cool, but not when he’s trying to be. When he’s trying to be cool, he breaks his jukebox, starts sneezing, gets eaten by space whales, and goes into debt to buy Lady a new chopper.

[@mangelsimonpaniello2256]

@@jackmoseley4959 Holy shit Dante is a cartoon character

[@firehedgehog1446]

4:54 Actually that is PRECISELY what the developer is trying to say. Like no joke, the director of DmC Devil May Cry actually said classic Dante isn't cool, so making Donte all edgy and such was his attempt at making Dante his definition of "Cool". And that cutscene with the wig really was him shitting on classic Dante

[@phootaphan9166]

I still think they should have found a way to do a similar scene in DMC5 with a fedora landing on Vergil's head.

[@firehedgehog1446]

@@phootaphan9166 Agreed

[@runningcommentary2125]

I mean, not quite. He thought the original character was outdated and wasn't as cool as he used to be. Which was still wrong, but maybe a bit more forgivable.

[@crimsondragon9099]

Honestly DMC3 is alright, DMC1/anime as well. But DMC4 and 5 Dante is just a cringe middle age Corey Feldman.

[@luketfer]

These are the same devs that openly called the original Dante design a "Gay Cowboy". In fact the hatred between devs and fans, the constant back and forth, it REALLY didn't do the game any favors either. Of course then in DMC5, Capcom gives Dante a cowboy hat weapon which felt like a shot across the bow towards the DmC devs about that comment.

[@Jonathan-Shadow]

The *REAL* dead weight.

[@derekhogan9685]

The most amazing thing you learn when researching this games dev cycle was learning that it was actually Capcom that kept pushing for further and further changes.

[@gavinweisel6438]

That yell edit with donte was hilarious 😆

[@solracstormhunter3023]

A decent game, that should've been a spin-off, or parallel universe ...and also made the mexican Donte canon.

[@j.aquisado8858]

Agreed.

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

If Capcom hadn't marketed this as a reboot that replaced the OG games or heck even as a new IP people would've been a lot more happier, at least DMC 5 happend.

[@solracstormhunter3023]

@@BuryTheLight-tds I agree to every word in that sentence.

[@elhidancazador7245]

I'ts just a Spin-off, a what if from the franchise.

[@1Synner]

"It feels like the developers were trying to say 'Well, my Dante is SO much better than that older loser Dante-'." The funny thing is... you're 100% right. It's not just conveyed in the game. In pre-release interviews and talks with the Director Tameem Antoniades and Producer Alex Jones (trust me, it's a different dude), they've expressed time and again how much "old" Dante was uncool now and their new version of Dante would be so much cooler because the new version would be more in line with the times. AKA, they followed trends, not what was actually cool. IRONICALLY ENOUGH, the Dante they made was nearly a decade late with the trends at the time. So, with all DUE respect to their piss poor attempt, I tend to call this version of "Dante" DiNO. ViNO for this game's version of Vergil.

[@justsomenobody6740]

Right. I hate how they insulted the fans and the OG Dante. That's why I will never touch DmC. And gee, guess who and what was voted favorite character and game by Capcom fans....OG Dante and DMC5.

[@1Synner]

@@justsomenobody6740 Lol, yeah. Worst thing is, if they would have kept their mouth shut and/or made it a brand new IP, the game probably would have been seen as some lost cult classic that emulated Devil May Cry combat. Such a waste, really.

[@_Tzer]

@@justsomenobody6740 play it for the music and gameplay and where dmc5 took its style announcer and nero and vergils movesets

[@RT-cx2ic]

I think a lot of that came from the doxxing and death threats from the neckbeards though.

[@supersaiyanshonathan]

What made Dante cool is he didn't take himself seriously

[@atangbalapile8260]

This was my first devil may cry game. I had fun with it, but after playing the other games, I can see where the OGs would have a problem with it.

[@roboboy_uk]

This is by far one of my favourite videos right now. Your so cool dude

[@JackketKnightmare]

I love how Dan, Johnny, & Rueben called him "Emo Dante." 😂😂😂

[@MrSpartan993]

You can be honest. It’s not just a different take on the character. It’s a WORSE take on the character.

[@phootaphan9166]

They basically took Dante's cockiness and Nero's angst, cranked them both up to obnoxious levels, and shoved them into one character. I don't even want to know how bad a DmC Nero would have been.

[@jakomioftherose2434]

​@@phootaphan9166 For the love of God, don't imagine a DmC Nero.

[@Bertiboy]

⁠@@phootaphan9166 you don’t have to worry about that, it is quite literally a categorical impossibility that reboot Vergil has ever got laid.

[@phootaphan9166]

@@Bertiboy Fair point

[@crimsondragon9099]

@@phootaphan9166 But your fine with DMC4/5 Corey Feldman Dante.

[@shadenthefishlegs3469]

I once made a cringe Homestuck story where one of the trolls used the red and blue weapon system and it made the troll become deeply annoyed at the fact that he didn't throw this game away

[@BladeMaster84]

With the original series still continuing after this reboot, i started to like this game, kind of. Despite the "dirty" re-characterizations and the embarrassing dialogue, the gameplay is still fun. I recommend getting the Spanish dub mod for anyone who has this game on PC. I'm sure you don't want to miss this: "Mi nombre por cierto el Donté" Donté, le exterminador de demonios

[@rysundae]

Man i still love this game it was so much fun to play

[@SS4Inferno]

And then the Vergil DLC set up a sequel we'll never see

[@guwon5149]

"it seems our creators are at odds" i lost it

[@jackyboilad]

i deadass subscribed to you about 2 hours ago and this is what you do? brilliant

[@Overdoseplus]

Worse, it wasn't a fedora. It was a derby hat. It's double the cringe.

[@maryhelprankster]

I grew up playing the DMC games and Im in the middle of this game and I Dew enjoy playing this game. but your commentary got me rolling!!!

[@DemonKnight85]

I'll say this, I was and still am of the belief of the title of this youtube video. It truly was the reboot that no one asked for. And while Dante didn't quite reach the iconic status of let's say Mario Brothers, Master Chief/Halo, Sonic, etc, he was pretty damn close and with all the potential in the world. You don't take such an excellent IP like that and try to reboot it. Not when there was so much untapped potential. And I think the success of Devil may Cry 5 was a testament to that fact. Now that said, after learning that Alex Garland was the writer behind the reboot. Some part of me does feel bad I didn't at least give the game a chance. Because that guy is an excellent writer and it would be interesting to see what he brought to the table. But yea.............................I think we can all admit DMC 5 was the sh** and is one game for the books!!! That game rocks so hard and fires on all cylinders. A game literally made for the fans and a love letter to the series. Crazy to think with that success Itsuno is now leaving Capcom...............Well if there is no DMC 6, we couldn't have gone out on a higher note. Loved the ending of the brothers reuniting and carving their way through hell!!!

[@Blacky1632]

wdym like FOR DMC5 we want you experience the Glory, its the obligation to finish what you started and you will love it to the end. But thanks for the Video Cyan

[@dragonheartrave7687]

"Senator Armstrong's twin brother" I was thinking the same thing😂😂

[@doomslayer3294]

it honestly really sucks that they decided to do a reboot because they were not confident enough to make their own characters. if you change the names and VERY little of the story as to not come off as a complete ripoff, this game could easily have been one of many people's favorites. music was kickass, gameplay was good and story was ok but it's not like people play hack and slash for story anyways. overall it was a shame because this could have been so much more, but at least playing the game was fun!

[@jurtheorc8117]

There's people who quite like hack-and-slash games for story and/or characters. Of course, depends on which one. Hi-Fi Rush, the Darksiders games, Soulstice and the Greek GOW games are examples where the story is a pretty big part of the appeal. True though that the gameplay is a *very* important part of this genre, but it can be nice to have story be a more central ingredient instead of a sauce that you can take or leave for the main course, so to speak.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@jurtheorc8117 The only reason this game exists is because Devil May Cry 4 sales didn't live up to Capcom's expectations. So they felt that in order increases sales, Capcom needed to pander to Western gamers. The problem is that they did it in the most stereotypical way possible.

[@opadrip]

I had a blast with this game. Should've been a separate continuity with a line of sequels, like the million MegaMan sub games.

[@GorehowlBeardhead]

Honestly though, Vergil wearing a fedora in this version was fucking inspired. They just forgot that most of us kinda like Vergil in a weird way :L

[@SierraHotel2]

Imagine writing this game on purpose.

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

Imagine slandering the original creators

[@AnakinSkywalker-u5b]

Imagine licking the boots of the people who made this dumpster fire.

[@sleepyyAshh]

nah the creators were probably in gunshot range forced to make this abomination

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

@@sleepyyAshh I mean you could be right, they originally wanted to keep this reboot as close as possible to the original series but Capcom "suggested" that they go all out with it.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

PFF. Yeah about that. This technically wasn't the first draft. Capcom ceos somewhere along the line made the infamous "final draft" People have found cut audio files of Kat virgin and donte having actual conversations to give you an idea of their characters, which capcom BLANTANTLY removed

[@jurtheorc8117]

About halfway through the video, and your line-up quotes of all the weapons like the power of Spinjitzu and axing the demons a question was a delight. Got me smiling. I'm glad that gameplay-wise the game was fun for you, and i quite enjoy the video myself. I've left this comment to a few people in the comment section here and there, but to leave it in a more general way: The character action game Soulstice from 2022 is very much worth a look. Has taken some gameplay inspirations it seems from DmC, DMC5 and Bayonetta, tone and writing cues from Darksiders, some other inspirations from manga like Berserk and Claymore, new ideas on the "Devil Trigger" state such as different Alignments which have an effect on the way this Rapture State as it is known functions, and it's not as easy as DmC either. There's some more special things to Soulstice's "Devil Trigger" modes, too. Good story and writing, first or middle third may feel slow, seven total weapons, mix of a Style and Devil Trigger meter, a skill tree for your dead ghost sister's skills that can give full currency refunds, generally solid enemy roster (bar 3 out of the over-twenty-total enemy designs) that can influence each other too with aggression buffs and shields, quite good bosses, controller button remapping, colorblindness options, and I just really like it. It does have a kinda divisive central mechanic with the Banishment and Evocation fields: basically color coding but with casting forcefields around yourself instead (Banishment is Red, Evocation is Blue). Does make all the seven total weapons viable for any enemy, with some having dedicated strengths against specific types such as the whip being low-damage wide rapid stunning hits to unprotected enemies, punch daggers supplying concentrated rapid stunning hits with a good launcher that puts you in the air as well, the warhammer being good to destroy shields, the big fist for armor, and some more. (all weapons also have some subtle differences in behaviour compared to one another). Thing is, there's a kind of timer for how long a Field can be up. You gain more "time" by continuously hitting colored enemies though and later skills make it more managable, but i've seen people say they dropped it because of this mechanic. If you decide to check it out, or some other reader, i wish you a lot of fun on Soulstice!

[@shidderalpha2293]

It's my headcannon that the injuries Vergil recovers from in 5 are in fact ones inflicted by the attempted character assassination of the reboots.

[@ariesfaturrahman7982]

The fact moist critical said this is the best DMC series.... Make me feel like being violated from the inside.

[@TOROMEHRORO]

Beat every DMC and as a side mission of a game. I liked it. Didn’t take me away from the original. But it was a weird kind of cool change of pace that I accepted

[@averytherockgod9822]

Didn’t know Vinziepop started out as a writer on the Devil May Cry reboot🤯

[@LordZazas]

Fun fact: Vyrgil was voiced by a Power Ranger, keeping the tradition going strong(He was RJ in Jungle Fury)

[@changsiah2]

RJ is motivated

[@nightmarearcade2663]

Personally one of the reasons I think this reboot is so hated even now is because of one Tameem Antoniadias (sorry if I spelled that wrong.) For those who don't know this man was one of the leads of the project... And He was EXTREMELY antagonistic towards the fanbase. Like it almost felt like he hated the original series going as far as to say that the original Dante was a gay cowboy and if he walked into a bar he'd get laughed at. He almost acted like the reboot would be the first good game in the series with how his attitude was. which granted it is admirable that he stuck with his guns on this game but seriously this man was just very petty at points. Keep in mind at this point in time ninja theory the studio that worked on this game didn't really much of a pedigree at this point in time.

[@Me-jf2oo]

Tameem never said dante was a gay cowboy, that was just a slide that they showed during a presentation that was shown by the artist of the game. Sure still a lowblow but it was never said by tameem or in words at all.

[@phootaphan9166]

From what I hear, they also got kind of screwed by Capcom. They had originally planned to do something closer to the original series, then Capcom told them to make it different. I seem to remember hearing that they said something to the effect of "If we wanted the same thing we've been doing, we would just do it ourselves." So I'm not sure how much of the PR mess was just them trying really hard to double down on what Capcom was making them do.

[@dee_dee4640]

And he would still be better than the developers of saints row 2023. Not to mention, that he is done with it and moving on

[@slick8582]

Maybe the scene of Dante dancing with a cowboy hat on DMC 5 is a reference to that

[@nightmarearcade2663]

Thank you for that correction. I sometimes accidentally fuse those parts together due to his actions at the time so I apologize for the slight misinformation.

[@sofabored2150]

The combat was top notch broseph

[@Pinak1264]

This is the most Nerrel a non-Nerrel video can get, good job

[@billnye4496]

4:50 always loved they gave us this line then in the definitive edition there is literally a skin for him called “classic Dante” 🤣

[@walterdimm848]

I still remember the uber cringe presentation at conference one of the lead designers did to defend reboot Dante's new look by comparing old Dante to a gay cowboy. Not only has that shit aged like milk. It also reeks of, "My Dante's better, nananana booboo stick your head in doodoo"

[@pkshd]

Then come DMC V, Dante can use the Faust hat to turn the enemies into Cowboys.

[@Adam-xd9tr]

I've never played the game, but I love the look of the city crumbling and reshaping around you and messing with gravity. I could the idea making for a killer platforming game if it was used again.

[@jurtheorc8117]

Mayhaps Gravity Rush may be interesting for you where it concerns gravity manipulation mechanics.

[@Adam-xd9tr]

@@jurtheorc8117 I've heard of the series, though I haven't tried it. I'll have to give it another look sometime. Thanks for the recommendation.

[@jurtheorc8117]

@@Adam-xd9tr Hope you may find it interesting whenever you give Gravity Rush a new chance.

[@Catinkontti]

This was my first DMC game and I absolutely love it!

[@WhoISDATTONI]

The things is I was introduced to Dmc through the Reboot so I don't mind both of them as I was very young when I first played

[@mateusmessias360]

Remember, this is the game that decided to canonically establish that Vergil has a bigger dick than Dante. And I don't even know what's worse: That this game decided that was an acceptable quality of dialogue or the fact that Vergil, cool collected samurai-inspired Vergil, said that line. I'm genuinely impressed, I can't think of a single line that could go against everything his character is about more.

[@jeremyhall2727]

😂 really?.. he should be pride

[@vz1270]

Whats worse is that you are using the word "cannon" while talking about this game as if a similiar name is all that is needed to make any lore "cannon"

[@OnePunchHam]

This is the ABSOLUTE last place I expected to hear some OG Hoenn region soundtrack

[@Scrubjay457]

Thank you! I was trying to figure out which Pokémon game the music was from.

[@troo_6656]

Ahh yes the adventures of El Donte

[@ChannalWatcher]

A Nephilim would be a good villain for Dante and Bayonetta

[@grieverleonhart2630]

I may not have asked for it but I am damn glad it exists. I’ve poured many hours into DmC and regret nothing.