DMP #8 - The Shen (神) & Daoist Concepts

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Damo Mitchell - Lotus Nei Gong

Damo Mitchell - Lotus Nei Gong

Күн бұрын

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@Traumatose
@Traumatose Жыл бұрын
Beautiful discussion. Maybe I'm from a rough background, but I can't even imagine becoming upset, offended or angry at these actions that are being apologized for. Hope to learn and understand more soon. Thank you, Mr Mitchell 🙏
@andrewm4911
@andrewm4911 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant talk, thank you:) Brought to mine at times the image of the Buddha pointing to the moon - the message being not to confuse teaching, or the Buddha, with enlightenment. And Bruce Lee- beyond form. And the Buddhist story of crossing the river and leaving the raft behind, rather than clinging to it. Letting go of forms is essential, but do that too soon there isn’t the results of the journey (or bike stabilisers to let go of). Another aspect I find enriching from Buddhism is that middle way between conformist/traditionalist and individualistic/non connected to allow the individual not only to emerge more clearly but also to see that connection and oneness. I’ve listened, trained and watched many instructors and your depth and insight is fantastic-thank you.
@UnobtainableSilence
@UnobtainableSilence Жыл бұрын
Yes please do one on the difference between TCM chi and chi gong chi some time.
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
Yes, as I said it in this podcast, I kind of realized that may be a helpful one
@earthhorse917
@earthhorse917 Жыл бұрын
@@LotusNeiGong This is me shouting angrily due to my interest in hearing these cheese distinguished....of course, 6 months later, you may've already done this and so my liver should relax. Aside, I just discovered your KZbin content....thanks for sharing what you share.
@benjaminslattery9926
@benjaminslattery9926 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Damo After watching Adam Mizner for some time and just starting to gear my life towards extended practise instead of just contemplation. Your insights and how on the mark you stay have been very helpful and I appreciate you sharing with us very much. Your also a crack up, which is needed to let some air in here. Keep on trailblazing❤‍🔥
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
🙏
@stevesala101
@stevesala101 Жыл бұрын
Your deep understanding on these subjects saves us so much time.. thank you so much once again Damo.
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@91dgross
@91dgross 3 ай бұрын
i suddenly cannot stop binge watching your videos. have known about you for years, i guesss now finally ur teachings are making sense to me where before i wasn't following lol
@dianorrington
@dianorrington Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I actually understood most of what you just said. Well done, me. Better done, Damo. More astounding (to me, at least), is how closely your words align with my own experience with my Buddhist, Daoist, TCM and Shiatsu studies and practice over the past few decades. I've only quite recently begun to let go of all I have learned through formal study and practice, and had the confidence to let things become a bit more cloudy before they can clear up, perhaps. Thanks for the Guidance. Looking forward to the controversy. :)
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
🙏
@dianorrington
@dianorrington Жыл бұрын
🙏
@Blackridy
@Blackridy Жыл бұрын
It makes so much sense! I am in my first year of TCM after some years of personal spiritual experiences. Tcm is such a good framework to hold these experiences until its no longer needed to be understood. I guess somewhere in between integration/living and forgetting and being. Anyways great talks, glad I've found such a controversial teacher in a world of self-centered teachings
@zerocrutch
@zerocrutch Жыл бұрын
I love that flamingo popping in during the intro! Thanks for these chats!
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
🦩
@yanasophia1955
@yanasophia1955 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks Damo!
@theshamm
@theshamm Жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd! Love the name drop, and, more importantly, the analogy. Thank you for sharing.
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
🙏
@sinabehbahani7746
@sinabehbahani7746 Жыл бұрын
Great talk . Listen to it for the second time. The argument of psycho- shen parts totally makes sense. However, I think we can almost purify that, and once the individual existence is given up, that's the mystical suicide and full absorption. I feel the human experience is more prime if it maintains the balance of heaven and earth 🌎! Just my idea, Damo!
@user-uu1cd2tp1v
@user-uu1cd2tp1v Жыл бұрын
Thank you Damo.
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
You are welcome :)
@scottkaminski2661
@scottkaminski2661 Жыл бұрын
Also, when viewing the 3 Dan Teins, which aspect of one's being it views their reality will show their flow.
@VioletYT
@VioletYT Жыл бұрын
Could you please elaborate on the topic that TaiJiQuan and BaGuaZhang don't use the extraordinary vessels and meridians? What do they use then?
@intuitivesean443
@intuitivesean443 Жыл бұрын
Damo if you don’t mind me asking we’re in Indonesia is your school. The reason I’m asking is I’m getting ready to Retire and would like to be near a good school to do the occasional retreat and to on occasion connect with.
@macrocosmicorbit3982
@macrocosmicorbit3982 Жыл бұрын
Ubud, Bali
@intuitivesean443
@intuitivesean443 Жыл бұрын
@@macrocosmicorbit3982 thank you
@SnakeAndTurtleQigong
@SnakeAndTurtleQigong Жыл бұрын
🙏
@hawrify2148
@hawrify2148 6 ай бұрын
is attention deficit a shen issue
@markallanneuhaus
@markallanneuhaus Жыл бұрын
the need to explain the fragmentation of the experience of the dao in the life of these bodies is itself a symptom of disunity?
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
Surely explaining it is also a step towards reversing it? :)
@drieskeppens1569
@drieskeppens1569 Жыл бұрын
The symptom of disunity is the symptom of unity. Whereas the Dao is something else and still is both of them 🤯🙏😍
@markallanneuhaus
@markallanneuhaus Жыл бұрын
@@LotusNeiGong saying it makes it so?
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
@@markallanneuhaus Not in my opinion :)
@ТатьянаЖалнина-е9л
@ТатьянаЖалнина-е9л Жыл бұрын
Благодарю за практику
@joaocunha5701
@joaocunha5701 Жыл бұрын
Universal spirit is pure consciousness. In Indian systems the divinity is also composed of both female and male aspects. the male being consciousness and the female potential energy which when in motion becomes what we call creation. I guess in the Taoist concept the same is understood and transmitted in another way. Although consciousness is immutable, what happens within it is subject to change. Wouldn't self-realization be awareness of mutation within consciousness without identification with it? or even not be affected by it? In my cultivation that is based on a Taoist system. The practitioner at a certain level of absorption observes the various bodies and even the five aspects of shen take the form of the observed object as a way of knowing them in all dimensions. Perhaps this is one of the things that sets Chinese medicine apart from alchemy. For in certain states of consciousness aspects of individuality (bodies, 5 shen) serve as screens for us to see and understand the multiplicity of 10,000 things regardless of their form. I know Damion is very busy but I would like for him to comment and give is opinion on what I said here. Maybe a vídeo. Very grateful for the content Damion have posted in this channel.
@akuujutub
@akuujutub Жыл бұрын
nice talk, thanks
@Corteum
@Corteum Жыл бұрын
In my observation and association with Daoist's, I found that they seem to focus too much on increasing their membership numbers than increasing and expanding consciousness or producing enlightened beings. Why is that? And why is it like that?
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Buddhists, Hindus, Christian’s and everybody else to me 😂
@Corteum
@Corteum Жыл бұрын
@@LotusNeiGong True that. lol It's not just the Daoists obvious;y. But it seems that such an focus on membership expansion is actually not in keeping with their mandate. Almost like they got derailed somehow along the way or lost sight of their own values.
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
@@Corteum Are we talking Daoist associations or Daoist teachers in the West? I am not sure :)
@Corteum
@Corteum Жыл бұрын
@@LotusNeiGong It was a Daoist organization in Auckland NZ. Was some years ago. They are good people, though. Kind and attentive. they were from taiwan. I wasnt hugely involved with them. it was a relative that invited me to come and learn and recieve the three treasures initiation.
@darth8freak
@darth8freak Жыл бұрын
somehow each time I've seen the 5 elements represented in a diagram, there was only one on the top, so the "pentagrams" that those diagrams "formed" weren't satanic. (The satanic one has 2 top points and 1 bottom one.)
@Labalix
@Labalix Жыл бұрын
Nice 👌
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@scottkaminski2661
@scottkaminski2661 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate You & your view, it is stimulating. I am coming from a Tantric view (Indian & Tibetan) plus Others. As to the 5 Spirits, it is not what you do But how you do it. Within the 5 spirits is the potential of the Divine. But our Karmic view distorts it's action and IT wants us to find the Reality. The Gold is There but can We Extract IT. I'd love to speak if it works for you. 🤘 Ashok
@murrik
@murrik 9 ай бұрын
28:00
@Dmm108
@Dmm108 Жыл бұрын
Regarding TMC, TMC studies wellness in the sense that it has a focus on what it means to be in balance with the elements while Western medicine focuses on what's wrong with a particular part or organ and nothing else
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
I find that this is, at most, a cursory aspect of medicine that gets dropped when TCM is being put into action. I rarely meet a practitioner who is synchronized with the elements, let alone a patient! :)
@briansprock2248
@briansprock2248 Жыл бұрын
Skillful internal dialogue.
@richardallan2767
@richardallan2767 Жыл бұрын
Nice talk. Thanks. My theory on theories/systems/frameworks is none of them are perfect or there would be more perfected people.
@Kosta110
@Kosta110 Жыл бұрын
12:17 The glass is just fine, don't worry, cheers.
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
Cheers! :)
@lobsterpapa2672
@lobsterpapa2672 Жыл бұрын
The masters will tell you to cultivate yang chi and yin chi but those are two wide bands of energy
@JM-jd7yp
@JM-jd7yp Жыл бұрын
When you rent a car you drive in a certain way...when you own a car you drive differently.
@elyzak333
@elyzak333 Жыл бұрын
Is that a dirty martini? Cheers Damo!
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
I wish….it was odd balinese juice of some sort…
@elyzak333
@elyzak333 Жыл бұрын
@@LotusNeiGong 😂
@elyzak333
@elyzak333 Жыл бұрын
Oh snap! You even commented about it later that it wasn’t alcohol 😂 ​@@LotusNeiGong
@elyzak333
@elyzak333 Жыл бұрын
Oh snap! You even commented about it later that it wasn’t alcohol 😂 ​@@LotusNeiGong
@cindyengel5670
@cindyengel5670 Жыл бұрын
You're not controversial enough ;)
@LotusNeiGong
@LotusNeiGong Жыл бұрын
Well, I have been holding back on what I think of the female spiritual scene….that one would be popular 😳😬
@khoitran6867
@khoitran6867 Жыл бұрын
@@LotusNeiGong Please hold nothing back. I'm looking forward to hearing it!
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