DnD DM OBESESSED With R*p*! | r/rpghorrorstories

[@G94Nick]

"If you played a boy, r#&e wouldn't happen to you" if you want to be REALISTIC then yeah, this would happen to boys/men too. And I'm sure if you'd say that to the DM, he'd get pissed and boot you

[@sleepyhead8620]

What happens is that in his worldview, men cannot be violated, or, he does not want to suffer the same risk because he does not want to experience being dominated. Such a weak masculinity binds his perspective

[@teddy8807]

@@sleepyhead8620 I think it might just be because he wants to get off to DND characters, but he isn't attracted to men so he would rather not narrate it

[@eirinym]

When he says that, he is saying he wants to see her character have that happen to her. He enjoys it. That's the really sick part, and yeah, in real life, no one is safe. It can happen to anyone.

[@Juju2927]

There's 2 Levels of Fucked up on the first story : - The fact that he basically states that "All female characters are subjective to SA" in itself is already horrible enough, basically establishing "Women get SA'd in a realistic world". - The implicit message that since it only happen to female characters, "Males can't be SA'd in a realistic world". I know that it's probably because the DM is only interrested in women and therefore would apply those plot only to them, but the implicit message of "Men will never get SA'd" is also gross and invalidating.

[@SinnerChrono]

I was going to go to a club with a female co-worker. (This was 17 years ago) we were waiting on a buddy of mine to get off work and all 3 of us were going to go. When my buddy canceled I called off the night as I didn't want to go without my buddy. The female co worker tried to get me to still go. When I refused she left. The next week at work I was talking to a mutual friend who knew her very well. He asked me why I didn't take her home that night etc etc. I said I wasn't interested. He was shocked and said that she was expecting me to try and sleep with her and had even planned on getting me drunk while at the club. And if that didn't work she had brought drugs to get me fucked up and drag me home with her. I never spoke to either of these 2 people ever again. Men can be raped and assaulted. I got lucky.

[@Thundarr100]

​@@SinnerChrono And what happened to you was women SAing men (rare, but it happens). The even more frequent occurrence being men getting SAed by other men. Just look at what happens in HBO'S Oz. Or the movie Pulp Fiction. Or The Shawshank Redemption. American History X. The list goes on and on. And that's just in Hollywood fiction. In real life? It can be even worse. Just look at all of the Catholic priests who had sexually abused the altar boys under their supervision for years. And when the Church found out, instead of reporting him to the police, they would ship him off to a different congregation, giving him a whole fresh batch of new victims to violate. And you notice how those priests always targeted the altar boys, never the Catholic school girls (who are part of many a straight man's sexual fantasies).

[@frankficcle7081]

That honestly sounds like an ERP situation. It was very responsible of the DM to be upfront before the game even started.

[@Juju2927]

@@frankficcle7081 They advertised it as a normal game with hint of NSFW. "Hints of NSFW" doesn't mean "Chose your gender : Male or R*peable !"

[@rynowatcher]

@@frankficcle7081 that was my take too. He is up front, asks for consent, and gives the player a way to participate without taking part. I am not sure why this is on a horror story thread. Not my kettle of fish, but there is a lot of truth in advertising here and dm's wife seems really into it. Not sure what more wou would want.

[@spectrelead]

The story with DM wanting in-game consequences for real-life lateness sounds like DM and Cleric were junior high 'mean girls' who never left high school

[@davidtherwhanger6795]

I agree with you.

[@bgdowns10171]

and then..... I was sucked into a wormhole. Consequences!

[@yomin2162]

I'm starting to shy away from DMs that advertise their games as "gritty and realistic". Too many times I've found out "gritty and realistic" are just code words for "r*p* and torture".

[@sandpiperr]

Yeah and "historically accurate" is often code homophobic and white supremacist.

[@alanbear6505]

About that second story: a GM who keeps a list of dead PCs to make himself feel good is a big red flag in my book. It’s kinda like a child keeping the bodies of flies that they’ve ripped the wings off of.

[@rynowatcher]

I actually thought that was a joke more than literal the way he phrased it, but it is more funny if it is not. It depends on your playstyle if this does it for you. I am blanking on the name of the game, but there was one in the 00's that you would gain a level when you died as the only way to level up as if you are surviving the challenges and not too hard for you. Kind of a reverse dark souls, so it was a thing to finish a campaign as low level as you could. Good beer and prezzle game.

[@chelonianmobile]

Have you heard of "The Binder of Shame" stories? Named after a DM doing exactly that.

[@scratch7971]

Idk, doesn’t seem too far off of ranking up in CoD by k/d or something, just weirdly personal in that they would keep track.

[@rynowatcher]

@@scratch7971 I have met people at cons that kept character sheets of characters they killed in the con game. That was back when competitive games, though.

[@byronsmothers8064]

Trigger Happy: if your 'good' GM not only has a bad habit of killing off characters, but keeps a list of characters he's killed, your GM is not exactly good.

[@ArcCaravan]

The "good" that DM did is worth nothing when the character dies off pointlessly.

[@MasquedMocha]

i think it depends on how often characters die and whether or not the difficulty of the campaign was properly discussed between the DM and the players. in this context, yeah, id definitely say the DM wasnt very good

[@skull_scrimmage3953]

"gritty and realistic" is always a red flag for me. 98% of the time I've run into it as a descriptor, it _actually_ meant "edgelord r*pe land". If a dude says that r*pe is a big part of his game, he's a creep, red flag, do not play with him.

[@monikasernek1177]

Also I would add homophobic to the the list of the description of gritty and realistic™

[@alanbear6505]

If he wanted to be truly “realistic” then it could happen to male characters as well. Since males are safe it’s about his fantasies not realism.

[@rynowatcher]

I mean Warhammer Fantasy and Age of Sigmar are gritty fantasy without expliced SA. It can be fun to play the game on "hard mode." Dark Souls and Elden Ring type fantasy is usually what people mean by gritty. They can be fun. The satanic panic happened because conservatives thought people played games with demons in them was Satan worship and caused suicide and violent crime. Just because you like killing orcs and taking their stuff in game does not mean you are an irl murderer and theif, so inclusions of SA does not nessicarily make a person a bad person. I think the gm approached this as above board as possible, so I am inclined to think they approached this the right way. At least one player is also confirmed to like the sa, so it seems like a kink that the dm is, ironically, asking for concent and warning op about what she is on for. The sadistic player in the last story seems worse to me and had no lead up.

[@draconicfeline6177]

@@alanbear6505 Yeah that's the key here - when it's always LOL FEMALE RAPE it's a fantasy. And usually framed in a "sexual," not "horrific act of violence" way. It's hard to describe "described as titillating fantasy" versus "described as brutal reality of violence" but you know it when you see it. Historically, males have been victims of SA. It was brutal, done for many of the same reasons (dominance, control, entitlement to get rocks off...)

[@monikasernek1177]

@@rynowatcher Good point, but the problem still is that this non-con (that's the name of this specific kink) game is still aiming only at women characters. Of course the dm's girlfriend likes it and it's probably her kink (I'm not kink shaming her), but it's also a sensitive topic and it effects a lot people in real life. They should have tag it as NSFW and immediately told that is a game with kinks.

[@oneandonlymario659]

Re: the kill happy DM. Personally, I'd drop the DM. He wants to feel like he's winning. He doesn't want to collaborate. Even if you like the rest of his DM'ing style, he still sees what he's doing as more important. I'd walk.

[@jordanhunter3375]

The DM needs players more than the players need him. So sad power-tripping DMs like this whelp always forget that.

[@davidtherwhanger6795]

Obsession Story. R@pe can happen to guys as well. And has happened. To me it sounds like this DM was going to make sure it did happen to each and every female character. R@pe is not a natural consequence of ones actions as I believe this DM was trying to imply, but a deliberate act chosen by one to inflict on another to establish dominance or illicit p3rverse pleasure. But now I must turn to the DM's GF. As a Navy sailor I can state with firm confidence that for everything under the Sun, and much that is not, there is a person out there with a f3tish for it. And I have met one girl that did have a r@pe f3tish. Which is what I believe the DM's GF has as well from her reaction. And with a combo like that all their games will turn into a s3x fantasy. Not a might, but a when.

[@frideonfriday7725]

Saying that to a SA survivor is so wild, like, you DID NOT just say "if your character is stupid, she's gonna get raped" to a rape survivor oh my fucking god

[@chichivandoll]

Gritty and realistic has got to be the biggest red flag ever.

[@gimok2k5]

Certainly on the GM-Side of things.

[@stripedouble6661]

I have a different take than everyone saying the DM thinks men can’t experience SA. I think it’s actually worse than that. I think the DM doesn’t want to roleplay SA’ing a male because in his mind he’s the wicked monster and he’s not gay. That’s why the girlfriend was giggling - they’re doing their kink together in front of the rest of the party. I mean, she could also be giggling because she’s uncomfortable and he is a bad guy to her as well, to be more charitable, but either way, he did NOT need to describe this to OP for her to understand that she was not a good fit. He could have just said “we roleplay SA in my group, FYI” without an example. Even if there’s no more detail than in the story, and I’m pretty certain that there was, it was too much to make a survivor sit through. Gross.

[@IvanV-g3y]

I don't think anyone was confused about this dynamic.

[@siobhanroberts2329]

Kicked: A good lesson I've learned in life is when someone accuses you of planning to do something, that thing is usually what they would do in the situation.

[@mikebytheway]

That, or they've seen it happen before

[@mirrortherorrim]

7:50 If I were the OP, my next character would be named Kenneth McCormic, and my next character would be named Kenneth McCormic, same stats, same skills, same inventory, no memories of his previous death, and so on ad infinitum.

[@gimok2k5]

Story 1: Ah, yes. The "Gritty and Realistic" world which is full of a blatant double-standard towards one gender. aka "Edelord world", which is not realistic at all. My recomendation to OP: Keep looking for games, and if anyone ever mentions "gritty and realistic", just expect "edge and unrealistic" and don't bother. Story 2: I would just go with the most petty approach here at first, creating "Bob the Fighter". His backstory is "he's a fighter", his hobby is "being a fighter". And when interacting with NPCs, he goes into "Sierra Adventure"-Parser-Talk and goes single-word-conversation, while T-Posing (in-universe while aggressively staring at the other person, if someone asks). And if he dies, I then "roll up a new character" (read: pull out a photocopy of the previous sheet), for the character "Bob 2 the fighter", who's backstory is "he's also a fighter"... until the GM gets the message.

[@R3GARnator]

The world IS filled with double standards though.

[@gimok2k5]

@@R3GARnator Ah, are woman raped exclusively, and men never? Because last I checked, both are.

[@DunantheDefender]

"Gritty and realistic" or "historically accurate" are the DM version of "its what my character would do".

[@MenxiGoblinQueen]

I don't understand how a crappy player killing DM can feel any sense of pride when the bulk of their kills boil down to "poof you're dead". It's like a whole other level of pathetic for this flavor of DM.

[@cortneybourlon9799]

Simba has an aura of "yep. . .enjoy my face" and so I did

[@KentaroMiyamoto21]

The majestic sounding music helps.

[@alarkhar]

Something fun just happened. Doge had finished reading the "trigger happy" story and was starting his comment, but after the very first vowel KZbin fired up a commercial. Basically, he went "ah", then a short pause as the commercial loaded. For a moment, I thought our canine narrator had been struck speechelss by the story.

[@jordanhunter3375]

Timestamp?

[@teddy8807]

You're good at describing, you'd make a good DM

[@alarkhar]

@@teddy8807 I am. A GM, I mean. Not sure if good.

[@oneandonlymario659]

Regarding the r*pe happy DM: I haven't encountered a DM that energetic about it. And he's got some misogyny issues if he thinks males never encounter SA.

[@stoneharvey1017]

That would be a misandry problem, not a misogyny problem.

[@LadyDiskette]

​@stoneharvey1017 It always reminded me of those guys who are so "protective" of other dudes being hit on by gay men, but if that same dude came up to them and told them a woman SA-ed them they would be like "High five buddy! Was she hot?" to their shock traumatized face.

[@DuskyPredator]

The DM getting blackout drunk and later cutting all contact saying the won, sounds like he is having real problems outside of the game. Someone needed to check up on them.

[@Snowfox572]

that second story i'd be tempted to roll up saying "This is my character. He doesn't have a name, He will die anyway. Do you want to kill him now or wait until later, DM?" then just tear the DM's ass out on why their pride in randomly killing player characters is stupid.

[@KhanjoOfEthiopia]

in the last story, i'll never understand people that hear the dm's rules for a game and instead of moving on and looking for a different game, they try to find "loopholes" in the rules and then complain when they get the boot

[@lucid7500]

I personally try to find the best in people, not assuming contempt prior to investigation. People who do the same may find themselves in situations where a truly rotten person will go out of their way to get under our skin.

[@alphons1456o]

If its not a r*peland, then the gritty realism setting is gonna be mud ore where every npc is needlessly hostile. Id say, even if the op played a boy, she would have not had fun either way

[@gimok2k5]

Usually, it's both.

[@Voidi-Void]

Male characters don't tend to live long when god has a monster rape fetish, either.

[@IronLordEXO]

"Gritty and realistic" are literally the reddest flags for any D&D campaign

[@IronLordEXO]

@kenpatchiramasama1076 bro I wish 😂

[@davidtherwhanger6795]

Gender Reveal Story. Some people just see a hill and think to themselves, 'THIS IS THE TIME! THIS IS THE PLACE! TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE!'

[@foller2electricboogaloo575]

"Gritty and realistic? We gonna have more complex combate rules and long time injuries, work more on the roleplay and our actions will have consequences, right?" "All your holes will forceful stretched by sevaral dirty men."

[@mathewhaight]

I think the main issue I have with the D&D campaign where rape is a possibility is that it is an exclusive possibility for women. That means that they are not trying to actually make it realistic. They are just injecting their barely disguised fetishes. If it was truly trying to be realistic and gritty, then both men and women would have that possibility in their campaign.

[@wolfherojohnson2766]

Trigger happy story: Bring this concern up with the group and then confront your DM about this. Come the game, if the DM doesn’t keep them alive, leave as a group

[@philipwagner9169]

Hi Doge: You continue to give a lot of entertainment to this non-player, and sound advice to the youngsters. Thank you for both. Did you know that when your Patreon shoutout overlay is showing, there's a random black "C" under your chin? I've noticed it just in the last 2 or 3 uploads!

[@DJRM01]

I will never get tired of kittys communing with the cosmos.

[@CooperAATE]

DTT is here! "Was he jealous of how I made my characters" is a super pretentious thought process.

[@keybladewizard49]

I've heard that first story before, and I'm still 100% convinced that the GM in that story and his girlfriend had a CNC fetish.

[@CruelestChris]

They're into computer-controlled lathes?

[@keybladewizard49]

@@CruelestChris CNC - Consensual non-consent. AKA a r*pe fetish

[@mark9960]

Gritty and "realistic" to me means death is quick injuries take time to heal, and anyone who dies is dead for good. But honestly, that game sounds like a kink game.

[@commonskoomaenjoyer]

Your "that guy" voice is top shelf

[@SewerxGator]

I understand having the SET UP to that situation for your characters to swoop in and be the hero and stop such actions from happening, but making it a main mechanic and actually showing/describing this is disgusting, especially how these people describe it, its never a heart breaking or serious moment either, its just a way for these individuals to get their sick fantasies out. cannot believe people go through this playing this game

[@SocialistStrike]

Gender reveal parties that go over the top and cause destruction are clearly a problem and just bad generally. But as to the question of whether or not they are bigoted, well, they are to some degree. We don't know the *gender* of a baby in the womb, let alone for the first 2 years of life. We technically don't even know the *sex* as a matter of fact, unless the parents have done a chromosomal screening, which most people can't afford or have need to do. Generally, we only know what the sex characteristics are, as in whether or not the fetus has a penis, and sometimes we even get that wrong. Until the baby comes out, we usually can't know for sure whether it has typical sex characteristics, and even then, there could be chromosomal fuckery.

[@phobiawitch835]

Just starting the video now, but the title alone made me wary and think this could be a former DM of mine. He wrote a story of how one of his characters was killed and it involved the R-word, and then shared it (I know I read it, still unnerved, but I am HOPING he didn’t show it to other players cuz, that was explicit and gross). Edit: the story is not the same DM, so that’s good. But time to experience the horror. Edit 2, the Kicked story: a fellow former player actually reached out to me sometime last year or in 2022 about the DM I mentioned above. Said player is one we were all told rage quit because they suffered consequences for their actions finally (albeit to an extreme cuz theybwere thrown into a jail cell in the 9 Hells). Well, I came to learn from that former player thst they were actually KICKED. After their character was thrown into the Hells, the DM told the player that no one liked them and that everyone wanted them gone, then removed them from the server. This other player is in a better game last I heard, and I wish them the best. I know that there was times it did get a little frustrating to play with them (most of us were new, and they tended to do some weird and petty things to anyone they didn’t like in game), but I know all I wanted was for them to tone it down a little, cuz other than those petty actions, they were fun to play with.

[@ganmerlad]

Kicked: It's pretty clear (to me) that the DM was a self-involved tyrant and OP was either going to be driven out or was going to be kicked for some reason or other as soon as OP said they went to public chat and had the hypocritical 'punishment for lateness' rule thrown out (by popular vote or player uprising against it). You don't step on the toes of a tyrant and come out unscathed. It's kind of surprising the DM didn't have OP's character 'mysteriously fall off a balcony and die' before then. The DM was probably too busy seething that OP dared to question them to formulate a calculated revenge. That game was never going to end well. Murderhobo: That story reminds me of another horror story I heard 6 or so months ago about a pair of guy friends where one was a psycho-brained murderhobo edgelord and his friend seemed otherwise normal but was edgelord's steadfast stan and constantly argued for anything the twisted edgelord wanted. They were kicked out of that game but the group found out they had been kicked out of a lot of other games as well. I wonder...

[@willropa4226]

For the trigger happy DM, it reminds me of a character I was playing with back when I was a silly highschool kid. The joke was that he died almost every session, so we ruled that he was Kenny from South Park, no matter how he died, he'd always come back like it never happened, that way he'd never have to make a new character each time he died. Do the same for this DM, just to stick it to him. Like, create a Tiefling who, whenever they die, no matter what, they'll drop into the Nine and just portal back to the real world. They could be smote by Bahamut himself with enough power to destroy the world, but no matter what happens, death means nothing to the character, they'll always come back.

[@davidtherwhanger6795]

Murderhobo Story. Honestly most of those bandits would have been forced into manual labor for a period of months or years. Life may have been cheap back in the Medieval Period of Feudal Europe, but no ruler was giving up free labor without good reason. There was always some job that no one wanted to do. And sometimes that was being forcibly relocated to a border region or far off colony as an exile from your native land. Heck some of them could have been conscripted into the army to serve as cannon fodder. So the idea that the bandits would be executed anyway is just false. Sure some were to make an example of them. But not every last one of them. Not to mention that once the town guard saw what the murderhobos did for kicks, those guards would probably bar them from entering the town again. You don't let psychos into your home after all.

[@DarnHyena]

Also of note they specifically picked out one of the female bandits to torture

[@AzureKyle]

Yes, it is possible to play an evil character in a really well done way, I have done so with a Lawful Evil Vengeance Paladin in a Punisher/take no prisoners style of roleplay, but I got the OK from my DM to do so beforehand, and it didn't interfere with the party or the story at all. The issue is, most people do not really know how to play an evil character in a well done story way, and just use it as an excuse to be murderhobos. If someone has to argue about being allowed to play an evil character when the DM says no, they were planning to be a murderhobo, full stop, and just got pissy that the DM said no.

[@brandonturner4113]

Do people think it's the dms job to mediate between pcs and babysit them cause they can't talk things out themselves? I guess a new thing to add to my session 0 is I'm a dm not a baby sitter damn Edit I should add cleric and dm were wrong and assholes on literally every other aspect though

[@timdaferretmailman7297]

The story about the DM being upset about timezones and assuming that they weren't being respected is kinda bs. Bro, timezones cannot be helped, and neither can work schedules. Work is a very important thing in anyone's life, and it's not so simple to put off just for a DnD game. I don't understand how this has anything to do with respect.

[@UltimatBlitz]

"She had plenty of time to change her mind" but didn't and then she giggled about the results. Yeah, I think she wanted the monster to go after her.

[@lucid7500]

The DM in the last story just wanted to power trip.

[@nateunderwood7819]

When he said maybe I can entice you with a Kitty, I thought he said Kidney and was like “What? Are you secretly running a black market for organs?” Then I saw the kitty on screen, Simba you are a great cat

[@gazblackheart4596]

I do think gender reveals are stupid and pointless, bigoted is a stretch but the gender of a baby should not matter at all.

[@TBTabby]

Stories 2 and 3 both have the "DM vs. Players" problem, which means they both have the same solution; Ditch the DM. Of course, in Story 3, the trash took itself out.

[@rumbleroller2154]

(4:19) No, they're not overly sensitive. It doesn't matter how realistic the DM pretends their game will be. They allow explicit simulations. And whats more, said material would not add anything remotely constructive to the game. Its just there to promote some sick fetish. I dunno what the girlfriend was giggling about.

[@IvanV-g3y]

She was giggling about her fetish, duh.

[@Solosomnia]

Reminds me of Jarhead. DM: "I wanted the pink mist"

[@calebwyman5510]

I love the third story that’s totally me. I’ve only played DND three times I was drunk twice, but I’ve never been the drunk the dungeon master.

[@ЯковБахтин]

I mean In the 1st story, at least everything was honestly discussed before the game, like grown people and everything. Yes, some people are into weird stuff, but this one understood their weirdness is not for everyone to enjoy, and didn't try and convince the player everything was normal after it would already be late

[@Michaeljack81sk]

Exactly! They just should have advertised what kind of game it was in advance to avoid uncomfortable situations like that

[@shanegibbens]

The op from the Rage Quit story sounds like he is as bad as the DM with how he phrased how he optimizes characters and almost sounds like the dm was tired of dealing with op's bullshit, guessing villager railgun stuff or coffeelock nonsense lol.

[@ArcCaravan]

It was mentioned DM did the same so it'd be hypocritical to rage quit over optimization.

[@bandwagonbuzzard1617]

Story 1 sounds like Goblin Slayer, which does contain a bit of that (and it is **not** done as fetishistic). We may generally not want that kind of game, but i will give credit that DM was upfront about it.

[@michaelortiz1561]

That one just seemed like a fine interaction with a dm where she found out before the game she didnt want to play with the group? I dont know why ppl are acting like its this horrible story of deep horror

[@TigerW0lf]

Trigger Happy is already showing signs of a serial killer. He shows no empathy for his players and enjoys killing characters. He even collects and displays his kills like some trophy hunter. It's only a matter of time before he decides pc killing is not enough to make him happy

[@Bunny._.IsHere]

I watch these videos on the big tv sometimes, and my mom stops whatever she’s doing just to marvel at the fact that there’s a wizard dog on the screen telling stories. She knows nothing about DND.

[@Runzu87]

lol cuteee

[@vortega472]

Simba's gonna make us an offer we can't refuse.

[@calebwyman5510]

This is why I don’t play dungeons and dragons except for like once every five years when the power goes out

[@alexandramusilova8148]

I wonder what the "particular anime world" was. Because if you sign up for a game based on something like Goblin Slayer, then yeah... you can expect those things to happen. To add: I wouldn't count it as a horror story. Nothing was sprung up on OP. The DM was very open about what would be in the game, didn't throw a fit, didn't insult OP for having different comfort limits, and it seemed like the people in the party had no issue and even enjoyed the darker content of the game. OP is just mad that other people like other things than them in their fictional no-consequences game they don't force OP to join.

[@Fletch55]

Killing a character unexpectedly and unprompted from five miles away isn't being trigger happy; It's called bullshit.

[@sarahthesarah2850]

Ugh 😩 I have encountered the rape happy DMs. Its horrible. They wouldn't just say that happened. It would be described in graphic detail. I was the only girl in a group if guys too. I have encountered it more than once and get out quickly. Sometimes I was not warned at all. I've also encountered a DM who was determined to murder the characters in some pretty terrible and gross ways. Toxic people can be found in any game. Just got to keep looking until you find the right fit.

[@dracone4370]

Thoughts on revised material for D&D coming later this year that has already been revealed?

[@barrydheil]

The only time I have had that dark a material in a campaign, was a game of Kult, which is usually very heavily involved in dark material. We usually avoid that stuff in DnD campaigns.

[@finnmchugh99]

This DM in the first story sounded like he played WAAAAAAY too much Monster Girl Quest

[@justinmargerum2559]

Intro: Simba! Cats = Likes Obsession: Nope; definitely not normal. Kudos to OP for helping keep it that way. Find a healthier group. Trigger Happy: "The problem is, besides this, the dm is really good." Seriously? Random arbitrary deaths kill investment and immersion while killing trust. That's a big "this" to dismiss. Rage Quit: DM vs player mentality? Maybe. It could also be a substance abuse issue. Kicked: Red flags abound. It immediately appears that Cleric and DM have a pathological codependency, with Cleric enabling DM. And the story played out exactly as that theory would predict. Untrue Romance: Player agency is a thing, so OP shouldn't feel compelled to submit to an unwanted "ship." Gender Reveal: It was a family thing, so it should have been enough to just respect that. June needs a talk but her removal is definitely on the table. Murderhobos: "I'm not entertaining anyone's murderboner." That's a good line. I'm stealing that one.

[@mllamo_alex]

The first story is disgusting lool, poor girl trying to look for a game. :(

[@Vahktang]

Characters keep dying? File off the numbers, repeat. “Oh, no. Todd the Clone the VI died? Good thing Todd the Cline the VII is nearby. Yes, same stats, spells, equipment.”

[@Gripen1974]

giggling may be a self defence method so her giggling could be how she handle things she think is uncomfortable. Also i dont know the power dynamic is in that relationship so she may not even have an option to protest and say she was uncomfortable.

[@CruelestChris]

Or she could think it's funny and you could stop infantilising a complete stranger

[@Gripen1974]

@@CruelestChris I reacted on how the op thought her giggling was strange, i don't infantilising the giggling girl, i just point out another way this situation could be read and what really happen we don't know for we need more context and information to really pass any judgement, so i simply played a devils advocate. So i simply gave another option to that she was weird and strange as op may have thought, we need more info to really know.

[@CruelestChris]

@Gripen1974 I think the normal people assumption is that if someone is laughing at something, they think it's funny. With no other observations, there's no reason to suppose it's something more complicated. She probably just thought the mental image was silly rather than shocking.

[@Gripen1974]

@@CruelestChris its your experience , mine is more mixed, ppl giggle when they think things are funny, when they are uncomfortable, afraid, shocked, when they are in pain and so on so i never just say it is because ppl think it s funny, it may be 50-60% of the time but the other times can be ppl hiding abuse, being hurt, scared shitless and so on, so context is needed, in this case with the information we got and my experience i say it is around 33% chans she is an abuse victim who is controlled by a controlling and abusive boyfriend. but it also mean she has 66% chans she just thought it was funny and was in on this weird creepy thing. We will never know what is in her head for we wasnt there.

[@CruelestChris]

@Gripen1974 Well how can one argue with numbers pulled out of thin air?

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

You really have to wonder, how people like this are not on a registry of some kind...

[@nerdyogre6683]

They don't do anything illegal.

[@gimok2k5]

@@nerdyogre6683 yet.

[@Michaeljack81sk]

For running a NC kink game with fully consenting players?

[@lonespartan2272]

second story a dm that gets giddy over player deaths and says he keeps a "wall" of character names/sheets on dnd beyond to make him "feel better" is a psychopath. if i was in his DND game and i put my heart and soul into a character only to be killed off in 5 mins or by next session whould most likely get a EARFUL by me before i leave that server for good, hell id leave on the spot if i learn from the players that the dm is supper giddy in killing off player characters at the snap of his fingers, no dnd is better then bad dnd applies hard to this.

[@Ieatpaste23]

Dnd is about the people having fun, and the pcs feeling like they accomplished something. You fail is someone "won".

[@Lupostehgreat]

12:31 I am actually going to say "not always." I would not be surprised if this is one of the most common arrangements for narrative games. While it's not always the spouse/SO, I have played in many games where one of the players is essentially a co-DM and gets lots of little perks and gimmes for aiding in keeping shit moving, helping to teach new players at the board how to play, helping to prevent murder-hobo mentality, and many other things. However, the problem comes from situations where the Co-DM is an asshole who takes advantage of this situation and bullies the other players, or demands the spotlight at all times, refuses to do any role playing, etc. Having NO ONE who knows what the fuck The DM is planning can result in a ton of boring, and wheel-spinny affairs as no one is particularly invested in anything The GM wants to do, and The GM can trust no one with anything. You would end up feeling alone and miserable as GM.

[@subgeta07]

While it is possible that some people may enjoy "consensual" non-consent, that really is something to keep to your intimate partners, not your friends.

[@graysnake8585]

The guy in the murderous character story at the last post here belongs in a Warhammer lobby...

[@RockR277]

There comes a point where you can have too much realism

[@Knightshade08]

I've played and DM'ed a lot of games and have always lived by 2 rules: The Prime Directive and General Order 1. Prime Directive: Have fun! If you're not having fun, there's no point in playing the game. General Order 1: NEVER rape a PC. Use an NPC if needed for the plot or backstory but don't sexually assault PCs. That's basically how you got Half-Orc PCs in 1st edition. It's NEVER something that "might" happen because your character is female or low level, or .

[@icecreamnoodles3742]

"Do you want to play a girl or a boy?" I am playing an adult. Thanks.

[@justalittlesprout]

The DM in the second story sounds like he should be playing a Warhammer ttrpg, not Curse of Strahd 💀

[@DiceFTW273]

I like these horror stories. I usually feel like I'm a bad dm, regardless of what my players say. At least im not as bad as these ones.

[@keeperofdragons456]

Dm killing characters for no reason? That's a Henderson

[@Crow-7655]

nah why do simba look so goofy XD

[@tenshyklonik]

First time I say I´m gonna DM a realistic rptb, get DM by the discord owner that say "Dude, Did you really say that Karen pc is gonna get SA?" and of course my answer was "What? No, I never say that, and also, Who the f*ck is karen?" then proceed to tell me that karen ask me to join and I told her that, bc my game is gonna be realistic, her character is gonna be r*p*d multiple times, told him to go to my house and chek my DMs, that lady NEVER talk to me, obviously when the owner ask her why did she say that, she have the balls to say that "Every realistic game I participate ends the same so I told you to get rid this leech"... She got banned of course, bc my realistic game means that you can starved to death, get sick, don´t have all the equip in the world in your backapack and critical hits can amputated your hands or feet

[@hellcat64]

that cat looked high or tired, or both

[@LadyRP]

There's this random C imposed in the last of the video on Doge and I cannot take my eyes off of it. . . . . is Doge haunted?

[@eirinym]

AITA for not engaging in romantic roleplay I don't want? No. Full stop, no ambiguity-no. It's your character. If someone is interested in roleplay and it seems fun, by all means. If they ask and you say no and they keep insisting, they're TA.

[@sittisittivarakul5101]

May we have short videos featuring Simba, your lil' boi?

[@ingakozuruba9145]

If I mean gritty and realitic than I would go the route "your character can die from gangrene and food poisoning".

[@Laughingadvocate]

So Dm sounds honest and straight foward, if you want that sort berserk/goblin slayer vibe go for it i guess. But it's a green flag that they don't drop it on new players without consent if thats worth anything.

[@davenrippe480]

So only listened to the first story so far and I get it. A lot of people play games like D&D, Pathfinder, and so on to escape from real life things and traumas to have a good time. You'd be suprised to know that some people do have a kink for the idea of being raped and get that "joy" in the table top game. I know cause one of my partners has that kink and yeah, being the dm for a special game for two of my partners that has it as an inclusion for it all can be a little hard but it's what makes them happy

[@lamiahunter]

Story 1: if you have the stomach turn it in reverse. Play a dude who r words other dudes, tell him ‘you said it was gritty and dark, this happens deal with it’. Also the dm’s gf giggling isnt unlikely. 1/3 women asked in a study said they did have a r* word ‘fantasy’. Which in itself is pretty gross

[@draconicfeline6177]

I know some people who survive R* will have it as a fantasy as a way to reclaim control, but it's obviously very... different... to what's going on in the story. When they act out the fantasy, there's been consent given beforehand and it's done... differently... than when it actually happens. Dimes to dollars, outside of the fantasy, no one wants that.

[@BlueTressym]

With respect to the last part of what you've written here, having r-word fantasies is extremely common among survivors of IRL SA (men, women, and enbies alike). Calling it 'gross' is victim-blaming so please don't condemn people for their coping mechanisms without even trying to understand them. Also, even without that, people like what they like. Kinks and fetishes aren't a choice. What the GM and GF were doing was gross and handled badly but not solely for having that content exist in their game. Some people enjoy those kind of scenarios and don't deserve to be shamed for that. That said, NSFW games need to be advertised as such so people don't apply for them unknowingly. Don't lie in game ads, folks, and yes, that includes lying by omission, and especially includes using 'grity and realistic' as a cover for what you really mean. Don't even get me started on them claiming their world was 'realistic' when playing amale chaartcer would grant immunity to rape; THAT's truly gross and an insult to survivors.

[@lamiahunter]

@@BlueTressym NGL chief it IS gross. If my coping mechanism was to eat living chipmonks u dont go 'well its how he copes' you go 'get your ass to therapy. If you think its 'okay' for people to have an r word fantasies or fetiches just because of trauma is a terrible thing to say.

[@M_Alexander]

So as far as "the bandit is getting executed anyway" goes... that's just evil. It's not justice or even a "necessary evil," it's just evil. Heck it's something a lawful evil character would try to avoid. I play an outlander barbarian, a monstrous race (awakened owlbear), lawful (personal honor code) neutral. She will absolutely slaughter aggressors without mercy and will chase ot strike retreating enemies because of a predator's instinct to pursue fleeing prey. Once ate alive an uncooperative shapeshifter while the party interrogated a group of them after a battle. However it would never occur to her actually torture someone, especially not for kicks. She can be vicious and merciless but outright sadism is just Evil and I worry about anyone who thinks otherwise

[@jamesscheurich6006]

I think June had the mindset that the baby should chose its own gender and the perents should not be assigning the baby a gender.

[@ArcCaravan]

The "it's not your baby" comment makes me doubt that and think she's just looking for an excuse to blame the player for delaying the story.

[@K_i_t_t_y84]

June definitely had the right mindset, but since political discussions were not allowed, she should have kept it to herself, as right as she was. Honestly, it's good that they removed her because she needs to be with people that have similar political leanings so that her discussions won't be unwelcome.

[@jamesscheurich6006]

@@K_i_t_t_y84 there is too much us vs them mentalaty in politics today. It will only lead to disaster.

[@legendnodensetsu8423]

"Killed outside of session" Wot

[@davidtherwhanger6795]

Trigger Happy Story. Ok, the DM is sick. But hear me out. What about a campaign where the Player's Characters have 9 lives. Like on their first adventure they find a magic item, a small statue of a cat made of quartz or some other material like silver, something that would attract their attention loot wise. That night the statue begins to glow and without the players knowing it, it grants them 9 lives. They don't have to keep the statue after this and it looses it's magic afterwards or takes a really long time, like decades, to recharge. The players only find out something is up if one of them dies. They then resurrect within 10 minutes of dying, fully healed. Or as another campaign idea, the Party gets a mortal enemy, a rival Tabaxi adventurer that has 9 lives. So this rival will keep coming back time after time no matter how completely destroyed they are.

[@gimok2k5]

Pretty sure the PARANOIA TTRPG got that even as a default game mechanic (as a PC dying repeatedly can happen during a single session. Usually also over the top stuff like being run over by a stampede of cleaner robots)

[@Littlemoonworks]

Funny how despite this dm wanted to make the campaign realistic said that only female characters had a chance of being sa

[@hankbacksquat975]

Last story seems to be part of the Bad player theme, why’d dude pick a female bandit? To take off somewhere and torture? Like if it was a group of all male prisoners would it have even crossed his mind? Might seem like I’m making a leap in logic but that stood out to me. These murder hobos need some serious therapy.

[@eirinym]

So, the third story sounds like the DM was not doing well mentally. I don't think it was him being mad at any of you. He was drinking a lot, and then he seemed depressed in his last message to you. I don't know if you can talk to him any more, but I think he gave up because of something he wasn't sharing. That's the vibe I'm getting.

[@Breeykid73]

I mean tons of women like Redo of Healer, so i can believe DMs girlfriend being into that stuff.

[@Xylarxcode]

While I don't believe in the concept of gender reveal parties either and I agree that they are stupid, if you were invited and your whole family will be there, it doesn't matter. That's a social obligation you have to keep that takes precedence over a game of DnD. Gender reveal parties may be silly, but they aren't bigoted, though. Just a bit pointless. The group was right that she should have just let it go and move on. If he has other priorities, he has other priorities. What they are is not for others decide. They can decide their own priorities and they may differ from ours.

[@weaverdc292]

I'd like to offer a different perspective towards the story where the DM "ragequit" after not being able to kill the party members and the OP "Won DnD". It's highly possible that OP is just playing the victim but that he and his table are problem min max players who actively try to break dnd and fight with the DM with every spell to use some loophole. It absolutely is a draining process and it sounds like it's possible that's what happened here. Just a different perspective.

[@RWAsur]

"Bigoted gender reveals" player is... eh. As a bigender woman myself, I completely understand the perspective that the whole concept of 'gender reveal' is socially performative and actively harmful for the children who may grow up to have differing identities than the ones forced on them... but so is gender roles as a whole and whether a family has a party or not typically isn't going to be the determining factor behind their strict views of gender, but rather a symptom of the pre-existing indoctrination of the parents. This doesn't weigh on the scenario, though. The scenario is your fellow player can't come for a family obligation that has nothing to do with that player, of which the player of the family doesn't get a say in whether it happens or not, and is not some insidious or clear sign of future abuse or harm to the child or laws broken. She's just too deep in virtue signalling online to recognize the forest for the trees, that you should be kind and considerate to different perspectives, and that this was the opportunity to educate your friends about the patriarchy and the harm of gender norms without calling anyone names, saying anyone was going to do something harmful or evil, and just not be a jerk and belittle the people who had liked you. Nobody has ever changed their mind by being shouted at or belittled. The online concept of 'canceling' someone does not translate to reality nor to actually doing any systemic good in the world for it. Really, it makes you the bigger asshole for not just explaining your perspective in a mature way and accepting the fact someone else may still live a different life. They're way more likely to listen to you and maybe someday adjust their perspective to understand, if you treat them kindly. TL;DR: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.