DnD Player Thinks ATTACKING Her Party Is The Way To GO

[@ChaosCounseling]

People like Sasha who say sexual violence or abuse is okay if it happens to men make me sad. If something would be wrong if the gender was swapped it’s always bad.

[@JimAbooGames]

Exactly.

[@MarquisLeary34]

Anyone, male or female, should slap Sasha for saying that.

[@realdragon]

There are people who say to raped men "You should enjoy it". Imagine telling that to raped woman

[@MarquisLeary34]

@@realdragon Again, those people should be slapped.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

That’s a horrible thing to say. Why on Earth would sexual violence be okay if it happened to a guy? No human being, regardless of gender, deserves to be put through something as horrible as that. The fact that someone can rationalise that one demographic of people would be fine being put through that is- Sasha should count her lucky stars that I wasn’t at that table, otherwise she would’ve had to catch these hands.

[@Geth-Who]

15:50 That ain't what Jester would do. Her mother's job means she's bound to have been raised with a zero-tolerance attitude toward unwanted touching.

[@taddad2641]

even beyond that her chaoticness and jokery is basically pranks that she saves for when they aren't in the middle of important business.... yea she almost got arrested defacing a bahamut temple but that is part of her religion... literally XD

[@Geth-Who]

@@taddad2641 She got consent from *grass*.

[@MarquisLeary34]

Critical Role ruins everything. AGAIN.

[@K_i_t_t_y84]

@@MarquisLeary34 critical role didn't ruin dungeons and dragons. Shitty people ruin dungeons and dragons. Deflecting blame onto a show because it's a popular and an easy target doesn't seem useful in this situation, especially since they had nothing to do with this girl's behavior.

[@Geth-Who]

@@MarquisLeary34 Inaccurate, have a nice day.

[@TigerW0lf]

Annoying woman:"You're just a child." Me: "Yes, and they are far more mature than you!"

[@falxblade1352]

Well, you're just a teenager. (Eh, still fits in spirit)

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

22:48 Tldr: older player constantly picks on OP for him beim underage, gets sent to the Shadow Realm by the DM

[@Michaeljack81sk]

That line about Critical Role not creating all fantasy plotlines really hits hard. I've rolled my eyes plenty of times hearing players equate anything and everything in any game to CR and insisting "CR did it first"

[@finnmchugh99]

Or to quote that scene in South Park "Simpsons did it!"

[@thegreatcanadianweasel9928]

As a person who does live on the other side of the world, I have spent a stupid amount of money on stuff from home before. It is definitely something an adult would do, cause every other expat does it as well. Kind of love how she is gatekeeping being an adult.

[@WakoDoodle]

"an adult would never pay that much for something like that (candy)" Have you seen the internet lady? There are people who pay for a picture of a pixel or a portrait of a monkey. Or even virtual items in a gambling system. If anything this is exactly how some adults act, if not; paying a lot for candy is probably more worthwhile than something ppl buy in reality XD

[@DnDDoge]

dice... i buy dice.

[@pLanetstarBerry]

My bard once bought an absurd amount of candy and toys to give out during Trolltide (Faerun's summertime equivalent to Halloween). We're taking a large crate, stuffed to the brim with goodies. I had two other party members volunteer to help me out, we all had a great time making these fictional children smile.

[@biffwellington6144]

Never? Yeah... How much is a copy of Amazing Fantasy #15 selling for these days?

[@starbird3939]

Story 1 “It’s what my character would do.” In that case… (kills traitors) It’s what our characters would do.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

That last one is a perfect example of what I like to call the "sometimes" rule. Basically, it goes: "Sometimes, you just have to do something that would normally be a bad idea in order to effectively fix a problem." So, in this case, "Sometimes, you just have to tell the problem player to shut the fuck up."

[@pLanetstarBerry]

Now I'm just remembering one group I was in where most of the players were 16 (DM and I were teaching them how to play), and their reaction to a big payout was "let's all go to the bank... and OPEN UP ACCOUNTS!" with all the tone and enthusiasm of a bunch of 20 somethings going clubbing (someone even imitated an air horn). I was laughing so hard my sides ached for the rest of the weekend. They were delightful players, I hope they're all doing well.

[@TheNightmareAngelYT]

How did you laugh so hard that your sides hurt?

[@aquicandaquak822]

I have no clue how I JUST now realized you have a cooler chair. Hell yeah

[@ChaosCounseling]

I only realized two episodes ago so I feel that

[@tsifirakiehl4250]

First story: I feel like this could have been solved before it even happened. In my campaign, I told my players in session zero that I didn’t allow PVP, and they haven’t tried to betray each other even once. Communication works! Second story: I’ve seen less than one episode of Critical Role, and even I know that’s not what Jester would do. Third story: Julia has clearly never been anywhere near a high school if she thinks teenagers don’t swear. She also doesn’t know very many adults if she thinks they never get attached to sentimental objects or make bad financial decisions. You know what? I think everyone should just cut Julia some slack, because this is clearly her first time interacting with real people.

[@asioca1992]

1st Story: Imagine trying to betray your allies in the middle of an active warzone and then being surprised when the guy you tried to betray turns the tables on you. Some people are truly their own worst enemy, shame the campaign ended but I guess it was also for the best. 2nd Story: I feel sorry for the GM, especially if this group's b.s. caused them to end the campaign prematurely. These types of fans are the type that gives the source material they're obsessed with a bad name. 3rd Story: Nothing worse than dealing with someone who gets offended on your behalf, especially when you ask them politely to stop. I also love it when people try to tell you how to play your character too, that's always the greatest stuff ever. I'm glad for OP that she decided to leave and that the game improved after she left the table behind.

[@lalunafate]

That last story is tough, I don't think the adult should be talking down to or belittling the 16 year old, but I personally feel that it is probably not appropriate to be making sexual jokes around a minor no matter how mature they are. But I'd probably just adhere to that rule myself rather than force it on others.

[@stevenschnepp576]

No, that's a rule that should be enforced on others. Sex jokes around minors goes nowhere good. The problem is everything else she did.

[@jacksparrowismydaddy]

geeze he's 16 not 6, he can hear dirty jokes.

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

With the 16 year old, I've learned that individual levels of maturity can be on extreme ends of the scale or anywhere in between. Some have kiddie levels of understanding of sexual things and clutch their pearls at swearing, or be the worst perves who can teach their parents a thing or two and make up new swear words when the old ones aren't enough. And you can mix and match everything in between. It's possible that one woman was used to the "nicer/cleaner" side of the scale (or probably a graph with that many variables) and didn't interact enough with other teenagers to realize that's not always the norm.

[@m.tigerbeans6898]

I mean how many of these other stories are/were underage girls subjected to sexual jokes and humor that wasn't appropriate and thus the basis of a horror story? Maybe she was genuinely trying to protect him? Also I've met many a 16 year old who considered themselves oh so mature and .. yeah thats what they think lol

[@m.tigerbeans6898]

@Druid of Scosglen lol I'll let you know if my kid gets to that point (so far so good!). I only have the one but worked with aged preschool to high school, at a summer camp and babysat for 500 years. Don't hate kids at all, and most of the ones I'm referring to were peers. Good guesses though

[@shadiafifi54]

"Que Julia telling me an adult would never spend money recklessly for something like that." No, they just blow it on sports cars and assorted crap when they hit their midlife crisis :P Dude, idiot spending isn't just limited to kids or teenagers. I've seen adults with no sense of financial responsibility, myself included (I have not bought any sports cars, though, to be sure. Can't afford them).

[@DnDDoge]

dice

[@rattailcole3376]

Action Figures and Board Games

[@Ashhley_the_shawty]

Gatcha...

[@stevenschnepp576]

Warhammer 40k. Boats. Gardening. Cars. Children. College. Financially responsible adults are the rarer breed.

[@snowrios8084]

Elon Musk paid 44 billion for Twitter, so.........

[@TheRPGNerd]

spell: summon lucky. gives you defense against psychic damage for one combat, once a day, by being cute.

[@DnDDoge]

I'm adding this homebrew whenever I DM a game.

[@queerios9925]

Julia: "An adult wouldn't spend money like that recklessly. " Me in my mid-30s: ~spending over 3000 USD on Dwarven Forge terrain in a year ~"Are you sure?"

[@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627]

Our favorite cat herding doge is here

[@marybdrake1472]

That last story makes me roll my eyes.

[@REfan2002]

Time for kitties and Doge time. And attacking your own party cause you think it's a way to go, your friends are not going to invite you back.

[@HomeCookinMTG]

"an adult would never spend money that recklessly like that" yeah okay how many people get a new TV whenever they get their taxes back?

[@DnDDoge]

one word. Dice

[@lanir9543]

Critical Role: There's a huge difference between passively consuming something and being a part of trying to make something like it. The actual thing requires a lot of talented people to produce. This is true of Critical Role as well as films, tv shows, and even comic books. Characters in novels are a bit easier because you're already using your imagination but any source with a visual element may not be as fun to recreate as it is to just watch or read. And that's about your whole table, it's not just your DM's responsibility to provide that experience. Even Mercer doesn't do that alone so you can't expect your DM to pull it off.

[@vidmanandrew09]

You can’t fix stupid, true, but duck tape can muffle the noise.

[@dragowolfraven3806]

Wow Haruko brings back memories of FLCL.

[@9ftgl]

knew i'd find this comment👍

[@gharanohen9460]

I know it isn't all sorcerers, but damn, I've encountered the kind of sorcerer from the first story too many times. Main character syndrome sorcerer is just as bad, if not worse, than murderhobo rogue, lawful stupid paladin, or horny bard imo

[@bonthebunnycat667]

As a Sorcerer enjoyer we dont claim them and will punish them accordingly

[@gharanohen9460]

@@bonthebunnycat667 I know 99.9999% of sorcerers are good players, I have just been immensely unlucky with some of the sorcerers that I have been unfortunate enough to play with. I actually quite like the class in 5e and both editions of Pathfinder, and really want to play another one in the future,

[@stevenschnepp576]

"An adult would accept the loss of that precious item and memory." "An adult would never spend money recklessly like that." So Julia has zero life experience, I see.

[@gazblackheart4596]

Ah yes, the all too common matt mercer effect...truly a plague on many tables

[@brianvance1178]

“You can’t fix stupid” is something I first heard from comedian Ron White

[@vortega472]

Hi Lucky! The Sorcerer from the first story seems like a chore of a person and pretty horrible - but the real star is the DM - I think he handled it pretty well, and while he didn't give the players plot armor, he kept the game going instead of doing a TPK.

[@aplaowattanakul7760]

When I was 9, I heard almost every curse words my country has.

[@vodostar9134]

Lucky is so cute today. So, last week the party I play in was fighting some kind of angel/demon/something that we couldn't possibly beat - so I guess that counts as a boss fight - and our wizard throws a sleep spell on my barbarian (to be fair, I had started the fight once negotiations had reached the point where the angel had thrice said he was going to kill us, but he wanted to keep negotiating). The spell failed. Then he cast hypnotic gaze on the other barbarian in the party and held her out of combat until the DM deus exed a break in the action so we could escape. My character doesn't have the deceptive skills to do what this OP did, so I just attacked the wizard, but it was a large battle field so I didn't really get close enough to get a good hit on him. I understand the wizard's IC reason for doing that and, aside from being tactically stupid, it wasn't unreasonable... but I don't understand why the player did it, lol. He's not a bad player. We're actually all experienced and mature. Not a horror story - we're all just playing our characters as we should and everyone's OK with that. But I am wondering how this will shake out in the next session. We have two barbarians who don't trust this wizard and I doubt he's learned his lesson (cause that's his character flaw, lol).

[@SnaxTheSnaxolotl]

Wooo time for cats and doge!

[@ChaosCounseling]

The last story. I live in Utah where most people are super conservative…and we were less uptight about swearing around teens

[@towelgirl21]

In the last one, the only real concession I can give Julia is the "as legal adults, don't make raunchy sex jokes with minors" point. I've listened to hours of DnD horror stories by now and am paranoid.

[@starbird3939]

Story 2 Nope. Molesting men is bad and I don’t think Jester would do something.

[@5minutesofcrack719]

I'm pretty sure you told that jester story before I used to be friends with eagle and so we always got excited when we saw your video post our stories

[@soultpp]

So great to get this just when I needed something new to watch. :) I shall now watch! So now that I've watched: As far as the Matt Mercer Effect goes, it's one of the reasons why I have never tried to watch any streamed of recorded D&D (almost, did watch a little Oxventure once.) Also regarding the last story, the operative word here is clearly "condescending".

[@theskyischill]

Good morning, cutest D&D Pupper and Lucky!!!

[@jaysonklein6018]

clicked because of Haruko's face.

[@PaladinGear15]

When players try to recreate characters... I have NEVER seen it done right. I once played with some guy who decided "I'm Bayonetta from Bayonetta" (the videogame) and insisted to the DM he could strap wands to his shoes and so on. His attempt at being Bayonetta was just to do a whiny bratty "valley girl" voice, while insulting everybody over everything. Hell, the time I saved his character from a swarm of ghosts that were literally 1 turn away from killing her, he started the valley girl talk about "oh ma gawd, I so can't believe you even touched me? I like was gonna beat all those ghosts, only a fucking moron idiot dumbass retard would pull me away?".

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

Dude. He took away Bayonetta’s British accent? Wtf? Also. I think he’s confused. Bayonetta doesn’t just insult people. From the gameplay I’ve seen, she likes cracking a few jokes at her enemy’s expense before kicking their ass. And even then, that’s not her only personality trait. She’s confident, has compassion, and while she is snarky, she knows when to take things seriously. I don’t think this guy actually played the games or even watched clips of the cutscenes online, if he managed to not even get her accent right.

[@PaladinGear15]

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios Haha I agree, you know what else is embarrassing? he had a british accent to begin with! why he thought talking like a valley girl made him sound more like Bayonetta, I have no clue! We actually called him out a bunch of times, and his answer was always "It's what Bayonetta would do/say".

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@@PaladinGear15 Wait- he- he already has a British accent? I- Man. That’s weird. Also, if he thinks that Bayonetta would call someone a r- - - - - , then I seriously doubt he’s actually looked into the games. I mean- I’ve only watched the cutscenes from the second game on KZbin, and even I know that saying that would be something Bayonetta absolutely would NOT do. I think this guy heard about her, and decided to play her without actually knowing her character.

[@PaladinGear15]

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios I'll never understand his deal, I did insist Bayonetta doesn't act like that, but I never got a reply. All of our characters hated his character so much, while my character was busy in one place, and the cleric was busy in another place, the warlock and bard found a cursed slab that had to be freed from all curses before the entrance would open, so they both grappled her and slammed her face into the slab until she absorbed every curse. I disagree with what they did, but I can't say it wasn't cathartic after his character was such a jackass to everyone XD

[@jrytacct]

A direct quote from *Page 1* of my House Rules: Lastly, a note for fans of Critical Role. I am not Matt Mercer and do not care how he runs his games. If you’re so insistent that all D&D games be run just like his, then go bug him to DM for you, as opposed to constantly harping on me to “be more like Matt Mercer.”

[@alexandersergal]

Me at 23: buys literally every package of my fave candy from the nearby store spending almost 40$

[@realrealwarpet]

I will have you know my sorceress is more inclined her looks to seduce men, because she thinks she’s hot stuff…and she is. Being a natural beauty and caster means she thinks less of most people, viewing them more as servants then allies. Though, you can’t mistreat your servants, or they wont obey. Except the ones who are into that. Those are her favorite.

[@joshpiotrowski3487]

Final story: An adult NOT spending a stupid amount of money on something frivolous? This problem player must not have heard of cocaine, or she's 3 kids in a trenchcoat. When you're an adult is when you finally get to be silly with your money.... I buy what I want

[@starbird3939]

Story 3 How to treat a 16 year old: • Don’t send them NSFW artwork • Don’t ERP • Treat them with respect There that’s it. Julia was infantizing and bullying OP

[@SIS3W3N]

TBF, at my age I would feel creepy about sharing dirty jokes with a 16yo of the opposite gender, but I would just drop out of the game instead of trying to control the behavior of others.

[@starbird3939]

@@SIS3W3N same.

[@xandan1668]

Rogues often forget they aren't Frontline fighters.

[@thephantomwolf1002]

How did I get here so early again

[@nezukokamado46]

I can see the rouge being pissed off by the bad rolls and he went by that Amazingly most people just try to throw tantrums he did what is necessary exist yourself from the situation and calm down

[@fcold9402]

An adult would never spend that much money on candy. Says the adult who pribalbly spent a bunch of money on dice and books to play a game.

[@axelwulf6220]

Save for the Problem Player turning on the party... THAT'S how you play Ð&Ð

[@slagarcrue85]

To dnd doggie your amazing dude. Your such a talented smart doggie your top dog in this fandom dude. Your the leader of the convent. Don’t you mean leader of the pack. Lol

[@ChaosCounseling]

Yes pvp the only way to synergy

[@DiscoTimelordASD]

Last Story: Sounds like Julia just needed to parent SOMEBODY and it was OP unfortunately. I would LOVE to know what the DM said that made her leave the game completely.

[@wolfyblackknight8321]

for the second story I feel really bad for the gm who had to deal with that as a fan of critical role myself m(mostly campaign 2 the first one I had some interest it and the third my interest comes and goes) it sounds like they just wanted to play in a critical role fan game with ester eggs and references instead of a real dnd game. that being said if they called me lame for not watching a certain dnd show or podcast, and constantly droning on about another game I would of just told them if they would rather play in a game like that they can find a new table or they could just take turns gaming between them and run a game just for them. but I'm not going to take time out of life to run a game if they don't seem that interested. and would rather just do a carbon copy of critical role. also as for jester grabbing a guy by the jewls that's not in the show. at most she just blackmailed a person or two and at least one of them was kind of an A hole who frankly probably deserved it. also if they can't respect ground rules like that of "no sexual violence of any kind" I'd of just pulled the plug on the campaign then and there/

[@nope6021]

I think that if it's a bunch of adults playing with a minor, then sexual themes should be off the table. And any sexual jokes should be vague or more innuendo, or in game, keep it to plot-relevant fade-to-blacks. But swearing? 10 year olds swear dude like of course u can swear around a teen. And talk about important and heavier topics. Include trauma and gore and shit in the game if they're ok with that. Imo the only thing that should be censored is overtly sexual content, *because* it's a bunch of adults and a teen, so there's a power imbalance and if the teen is uncomfortable they may have a harder time speaking up about it.

[@Nesseight]

Sasha should have been sent to the realm of the Cupcake of Consent, a godlike entity that glazes her with the Frosting of Deliciousness, among other things too graphic for rpghorrorstories.

[@marooniballooni03759]

I've said some pretty creative and naughty language first when I was around 9 years old.

[@Stephanie568]

I don't watch CR anymore, only seen like 1 or 2 episodes on Campaign 2 and I know Jester wouldn't just do what Sasha tried to do Also what the heck Julia?! I STILL have a doll from when I was like 4 years old because she's super special to me and I have A LOT of stuffed animals and I'm an adult. Julia doesn't know crap!

[@ashuradragosani5960]

Yup that was the problem, those players were into a webshow and not actually D&D. You can bet if Critical Roll played any other game they would be into that.

[@CheshireChan1107]

Like i can understand how frustrating the last story must be for the OP as she was very condescending, HOWEVER! As a grown ass woman, if i was in a game with someone underage and they started to make sexual jokes, it would 100% make me uncomfortable. Yes i was a teenager once and said and did many things i shouldn't have, but it was with people in my same age group. I wouldn't go up to someone twice my age and think its okay to share sexual jokes with them. In this day and age, an underage person can get an adult into A LOT of trouble with "innocent" sexual joking. Intentional or not, in the eyes of the law, that adult will be held responsible. I think if you plan on running a game with someone underage, and the rest of you are adults, ide HOPE that the adults have enough common sense to not allow someone underage ( no matter how mature they present ) to engage in any kind of sexual behavior beyond what can be considered rated PG-13 in the movies.

[@vladimirdragonov]

Last story. Did that person never go to middle school? Or high school?

[@dlarso11]

Thanks Doge

[@JimAbooGames]

Man that First one those people are never gonna have a good DnD game. The last one, I hate people like that. And yeah a lot of us at 16 act like we know everything but I hate people who do what she did and try to white knight teens like that and then get mad and turn around to do the opposite cause they're mad they couldn't white knight anymore.

[@Spartanunit5]

Hey what game is that being played in the background?

[@Arudon117]

Hey Early Gang!

[@nickmillar999]

What’s the gameplay from? Looks very familiar

[@magdam10]

Not liking CR raises some 🚩.

[@Serbinderbintine]

Engagement

[@Dragmiredraws]

Idk, with that last story, I’m inclined to side with Julia, not on the condescending part, the having to watch your language and stuff. I can understand feeling uncomfortable covering certain topics around minors because WHEN it gets back to the parents, who will they scream and cuss out? Especially considering this was an online game, a potentially unmonitored setting. I think a Session 0 would’ve helped, assuming they didn’t have one

[@ChaosCounseling]

Critical role fans strike again

[@caaliber115]

question, what game are you playing?

[@DnDDoge]

Ys9

[@AtelierGod]

Sasha sounds like she’s British.

[@Klonbold]

doge dude i hope you payed for animaze. this guyes could claim everythingh you own otherwise

[@DnDDoge]

No worries there

[@ivancybran]

ugh, Critical Roll is so overblown and overrated IMO. I dont think people who like it are wrong or anything i just cant see what is so great about it.

[@DnDDoge]

I'm a critical role enjoyer, but I like the campaigns I'm in more.

[@xryeau_1760]

I think it looks cool but I don't have the patience to waste a whole year watching one campaign

[@Nesseight]

Julia is Karen.

[@rynowatcher]

I mean, the elder lady was uncomfortable with a 16 year old cursing is not a foul on her. If anyone is using too course of language, it is appropriate to tone it down. It I just impolite to talk certain ways, even if it is your normal speech. That just seemed like the op wanted to just be able to be rude in game without consequence. As far as "that is not how adults act," kind of thing, it just seemed like she was trying to ask them to tone down irratic behavior in a polite way. Reminds me of my grandma who would use it as a stand in for "quit acting like a $#@&." Every 16 year old thinks they are mature for their age, but the mockery of adulthood is often off-putting for some. The lady in this story might have just been uncomfortable playing with someone such as that.

[@SIS3W3N]

If anyone of any age believes that a certain arbitrary list of words cannot be used in their presence, that is most certainly a mark against their moral character and intellect.

[@rynowatcher]

@@SIS3W3N anyone is allowed to say, " that is rude, do not do that around me, please," for any reason. That is just being polite. It would be impolite of me to call you by a name you disliked, for instance. You getting mad at me for doing it is not you being too dumb to understand my speech so much as me being rude. The cursing here is appearantly not how op normally talks because the original post contains no swearing. Had to judge if it is offensive or just annoying because op can appearantly stop when they want too, but refuse to for another player.

[@SIS3W3N]

@@rynowatcher If ones ideas about what is or is not rude are rooted in class prejudice, like the childishly absurd notion of "swearing" then I am allowed to think less of them and those who taught them said absurd notion, and I am most certainly allowed to disassociate myself from them.

[@rynowatcher]

@@SIS3W3N I think it is unfair to assume it is rooted in class prejudice and there is nothing to indicate that. The elder in the story seems to have a problem with the speech from someone of the age group, not op's class. Sure, you can choose to associate with whomever you wish, but that I'd not what is happening here. OP did not leave the group, but they did drive the other lady away with offensive behavior.. This is the same issue of a 16 year old trying to introduce sexual content in a game and an adult not being ok with that because it makes them uncomfortable and asking them to stop. OP is the "that guy" that is making another player uncomfortable with a behavior, refusing to compromise, and driving them away because they will not stop, as I see it. It does not really matter if it is cursing, being overly sexual, murdering npc's, or randomly breaking into song; if you are annoying another player and double down on the behavior when they say it is making you uncomfortable, you are being rude.

[@SIS3W3N]

@@rynowatcher It's not unfair. It's historical fact. The concept of base/coarse/vulgar language comes from class prejudice. If someone tells me to stop using the language of the common soldier/sailor, the construction worker, and the pleb, then they are a bigot and I owe them no consideration. I can understand the older person in the story no being comfortable sharing sexual jokes with a teenager of the opposite gender. It would probably make me feel creepy. Unlike her, I would excuse myself from the game instead of trying to control the behavior of others. Regardless, that is a separate issue from my contempt for those who engage in class bigotry, knowingly or otherwise.

[@TigerW0lf]

First

[@derajtheyuler7101]

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[@Sussy_Bottom_Boys]

The church is evil trope? Why would you do something so controversial yet so brave?

[@SIS3W3N]

More of a truth than a trope.

[@Sussy_Bottom_Boys]

@@SIS3W3N something being a historical truth like the corruption that comes with power doesn’t make it an interesting storytelling device. It seemed to me that the OP thought that was an interesting twist in their world. I’m saying that we’ve seen that so much that it’s the norm, not a twist.

[@SIS3W3N]

@@Sussy_Bottom_Boys You know what? I'll give you that one. The way OP worded it they seem to think that a theocracy being militant and xenophobic was some kind of reveal, and I think a lot of people would have assumed that was the case from the beginning. Actually, in the series of novels I'm reading right now, the "Church of Purity" is working with the Big Bad in book two, and the somewhat genre-savvy protagonist sees it coming from early in book one when he meets a member of that church for the first time.

[@Sussy_Bottom_Boys]

@@SIS3W3N sounds like a refreshing take lol.

[@shawmiserix404]

i found myself less interested in the story and more in the gameplay in the background

[@IHateMyChanneI]