Doctor Reverses His Own MS Diagnosis | Dr. Sam Gartland

[@gldiego]

Since my diagnosis 9 months ago, my way of life has completely changed, I continue to improve my diet, I walk more than 10km daily at night, I gym with weights 3 times a week, I really feel in my best state even with MS. Greetings from Argentina!

[@debraindxb]

Wow, 10K each night!?! You're an inspiration!

[@gldiego]

Hello, to be honest, I don't feel it that way, but my body tells me I'm doing the right thing. Thank you

[@DanteLikesRock]

@@gldiego what is your diet?

[@muckfs2733]

after a decade of taking the best medications i feel great...if you actually have MS you should try them before you're disease activity gets to be too much

[@gldiego]

@@muckfs2733 sorry but what is the best medicine?

[@les8518]

I was diagnosed with MS at the age of 50. I know now that I had MS long before that. I am 80 now and still have MS. I have learned to live with MS and not fight it. My thoughts and heart is with all those that have MS.

[@yobafox1jason556]

How do you keep it from getting worse?

[@yobafox1jason556]

Or how did you jerk it under control so long? 💚🙏

[@nerychristian]

@@yobafox1jason556 Thiamine helps with the symptoms.

[@Take_a_breath208]

They never said they had it under control. Unless I missed it. I’ve been diagnosed for 16 years the Dr’s believe I have had it since I was a teen. I use Ocrevus and the Wahls protocol. It’s kept me lesion free for 7 years. The Swank Diet did help me in the beginning.

[@triciathetrucker1654]

I have an extremely similar story with my MS journey! Except I'm a truck driver not a doctor lol. Now I am training for a 2-week hike in Peru! Oh... And I've lost 50 lbs working on the last 20😊

[@LiquidFlower]

That is brilliant! I hope the hike went well. Thanks for sharing this is working for you also

[@miryreina925]

Wow!!! Healing IS possible. GOD BLESS YOU!

[@thedroneguy6914]

Hello ! I was just wondering if you had any trouble getting your DOT physical renewal due to your diagnosis ? What kind of paperwork did you bring if so ? We are currently going through an MS diagnosis of a trucker in our family as well and I am just trying to gather some information but its very sparse on the internet. Thanks for your help and all the best !

[@ameegrant6055]

Great job! Wish you permanent remission!

[@kilis3804]

omg amazing

[@KJSvitko]

It is just crazy that Doctors do not get nutrition training in Medical schools. Every doctor visit should include some nutrition discussion. The majority of the population is over weight or obese leading to high blood pressure, heart disease and cancer. Schools and hospital cafeterias should be leading the way to good health by setting the example of what is a healthy meal and teaching people what to eat and why.. Every person in the hospital for heart disease should have a nutrition class before being checked out from the hospital with follow up education and training in nutrition. Medicare and Medicaid should require patient nutrition education as part of their standard of care. Nutrition information should be run on the hospital TV channel.

[@fionanicolson7642]

Absolutely. Also goggle Dr R. Lustig on diet/sugar. Very informative on lack of MD training in lack of medical nutrition.

[@MM-qp4pd]

Then you have celebrities and politicians promoting alcohol and fast food. Bribing you with diabetes inducing ice cream to get the vaxs.

[@kjirstinyoungberg7794]

Trouble is...fresh foods aren't splashy. Ads for them don't make you want to run out and buy them, like pizza, burgers, tacos, ice cream, BBQ, donuts, cakes and cookies! We need a complete mind shift, where giving candy to a child is not seen as a reward, but an eventual coffin nail. I once worked for Walmart, and employees were given $1 coupons, as a bonus for a treat if we did something exceptionally well. One day, I got four of them, and when I went home, I grabbed a gallon of milk, cashing in my coupons for it. The managers all came around, and eventually decided I couldn't buy food with it. "It's just to reward you-like with a Coke or a candy bar." Excuse me, largest-store-in-America. That's a death sentence, not a reward. Now, I won't even eat 96% of the food sold at Walmart. How can we educate them?

[@MM-qp4pd]

@@kjirstinyoungberg7794 fresh foods don't create customers for doctors and the pharmaceutical company. They want you to eat sugar and junk food so they can prescribe ADHD drugs, anti depression drugs etc to your kids and you. It's a never ending toxic cycle.

[@klassy86]

They don't make money off of people being well

[@jeanninethompson6243]

Thank you for this podcast!❤ I have been relapse free since 2001 by following Dr Swank’s diet then transitioning to a WFPB diet. I still have some numbness and fatigue but for the most part am disease free. Mri went from 11 lesions to 1 inactive lesion.

[@roswithabed3650]

I am so happy for you. Many do not dare to do anything else than the doctors say or they think "if it would help, my doctor would have told me".

[@jeanninethompson6243]

@@roswithabed3650 my doctor dismissed my diet as the cause of my remission. He ordered my old records (they were paper records) and old mri to review my diagnosis at the 15 year mark. He orders mri every 2 years. I just stopped going to him because I hate getting the mri .

[@roswithabed3650]

@@jeanninethompson6243 I hear nothing else from colleagues who took their health in their own hands and had much better results than with "modern" medicine. It is a real tragedy.

[@SolomonTheStoryTeller]

WFPB diet hurts my stomach. Feels like it is shredding my stomach

[@roswithabed3650]

@@SolomonTheStoryTeller check out Dr. B. (Will Bulsiewicz). Guthealthmd. He has good advice how to deal with many stomach issues online. He is a very practical gastroenterologist. Fiber Fueled: The Plant-Based Gut Health Program for Losing Weight, Restoring Your Health, and Optimizing Your Microbiome Will Bulsiewicz MD

[@kb7128]

Oh the crazy meds! I tried 4 treatments, IVig, injections, Tecfidera and all caused severe suicidal attempts, severe anaphylactic reactions to name a few side effects. My body told me to get that crap out of my body fast. I am meds free for 10 years and am doing 100% better. Gut health is so important as was mentioned here. Good job and thank you!

[@amck72]

Hello, what exactly are you doing to stay off the Tecfidera ? Being you are meds free for over a decade now, do you still get any form of mild symptoms from time to time ? If I run on the ground, my legs shock up after a few seconds.

[@yobafox1jason556]

What type of things did you take do for your guy?

[@shaderuiz7264]

Doctors get paid prescribing prescriptions to all patients . All meds and over the counter has Side effects and they are damaging all your organs and hair loss walking and loss taste and there's more .They don't put all of it on your medicine bottles or the paper that comes with it. The government is poisoning & killing us . Doctors will tell you if you don't take this it'll better your body that's bullshit and lies . Do things naturally have a better diet .Your fruits and vegetables, herbs, and spices are your medicine . I don't buy medicine over the counter or get medicine from a doctor . Man made medicine is poison too all ages nobody's will not live long by taking those medications destroys you quicker than you think depends on how much you take a day how many medicines you gotta take that sucks. I feels so much better Chemical free I do work out every day Feels great to stay away from all man made medicine

[@nerychristian]

thiamine helps. also dry fasting

[@adamchaifetz5876]

You may not be happy of there is lesion formation coming of the medication. Unfortunately, relapses can cause permanent damage to motor system, sight and myriad of things depending on the aggressiveness of the condition. Tecfidera is not the only choice. There are many.

[@saratonnan]

This is one of the most inspiring episodes to date! This gives not only those with MS and other autoimmune diseases hope, but it's also inspiring for anyone wishing to find a way to optimal health. Thank you so much for this and all you do on this channel! ❤️❤️❤️

[@sharranallen8387]

The 'Swank Diet'was the first one that I used

[@hoyuk61]

@@sharranallen8387 Is it helping you?

[@abhayagarwal5097]

​@@orbitingdecay6797 why

[@nataliedelapaz434]

Imagine a resort for MS patients. Offering healthy diet, exercise and more. It would be a great place for docs to monitor the effects and improvements on patients. Hopefully help cure many people and teach them how to live a healthy lifestyle for when the leave the resort.

[@captainearth6717]

Check out "Ayush Prana, Kerala" People heal their MS there, its like a resort and a hospital.

[@Take_a_breath208]

That’s something I want to create. Funding and lack of knowledge to start something like this has kept me frozen. MS centers are close. They don’t teach the cooking. They do monitor with physical therapy and activities all in the same building as the neurologists and treatment center.

[@rewiringM]

Im very up for a collab for this:) just been diagnosed with MS and i know that diet, lifestyle and mental health are of equal if not more importance than meds.

[@allyssamclemore791]

@@rewiringMI have a good friend here in Texas just diagnosed. Happy to collab as well. Where do y'all live?

[@oksanabaila-fl]

and who is going to start the funding for such a thing and buy this resort, hire doctors and everything? that would be very expensive and how much will it cost a patient to stay there that will include the housing, the care, and the food? will a patient afford 1K a day that will have to cover the cost of food, care, and living? they need guidance and monitoring and support from a specialist. you will also need to advertise it because no patient will go to it if they don't know about it.

[@stonz42]

I was diagnosed 3 years ago after living with vague symptoms for 16 years. I attribute my diet and lifestyle to managing my disease over that time until vision loss prompted a diagnosis. The key to living well with MS is managing inflammation through diet and lifestyle, along with DMTs. I've improved my diet since diagnosis and have no evidence of disease for over 2 years now.

[@dominicingram6896]

Please help. Did you do any hospital treatments like receiving Infusions to help you be in recession? With the WFPB diet what other hospital treatments did you do? I’m trying to figure out what hospital medicines and treatments I should do or do you feel they don’t work?

[@stonz42]

@@dominicingram6896 I've been on Ocrevus for 2 years now, but started on tysabri for 5 months. I never received any other treatments from my MS. I'd recommend aggressive treatment with a DMT as early as possible. I don't favor escalating DMTs over time.

[@stephangauthier911]

I see a lot of diets. What about yours?

[@nerychristian]

@@dominicingram6896 Thiamine injections help. Also try dry fasting

[@odaynedaley7080]

What is your diet?

[@EvenSoItIsWell]

Thanks so much for this! I have also been living well with my MS for over 15 years. In addition to my medication, I eat a whole food plant based, exercise regularly, get good sleep, and practice mindfulness/kindness. All of these are key to my health and well-being.

[@sealseba8762]

Can you recommend a plant based cookbook to start? I am trying to save my life from ms. Newly diagnosed. Thank you for sharing this comment.

[@klassy86]

The Multiple Sclerosis Diet Book By: Roy Swank

[@mycomage]

Fascinating that a demyelinating condition is improved by a diet with no saturated fats or cholesterol (important factors for building myelin)

[@trukar]

Maybe the plant based diet is the reason you still have MS after 15 years. In tribes such as the Masai who only eat meat and drink blood and milk, these diseases do not exist. Have a listen to Mary Ruddick, very interesting lady.

[@snowwhiteicq]

Matthew Embry and 'The Best Bet diet" for MS. His father, a biologist went over the original Swank materials and later info from Mediterranean diet etc etc comparing it all to come up with and have now published the Best Bet Diet

[@tiffanymartin7769]

I got a lot out of this. His examples of MS life struggles gave me similar resemblances in comparison. Diagnosed in 2009, I ignored, denied and had my first really bad relapse for two months (the two hottest months in Texas/June/July 2024). Eating wrong foods for 15 year has brought me here. Yikes! I now eat plant based foods and am recovering, getting better everyday. It’s hard to explain but shows through my walking gait and energy. I have to force resting periodically, daily but my energy levels are positively increasing! I meditate 2 hours daily, use a rebounder for exercise, get 8-9 hours sleep with resting and naps when needed. I look forward to my future again because I see the light with someday not having MS! :) Tiff in Texas ❤🎉

[@malanaidoo3687]

Thank you so much for sharing your success story. I have also reversed the symptoms of Secondary Progressive MS, RA, Fibromyalgia and Hoshimotos Thyroiditis. I have published my healing journey. I am driving, dancing and playing golf now.

[@LoneStar-mr8jy]

What is your book? Can you help me? I have Ms, ra, fibro, Hashimotos, Vasculitis, Sjogern syndrome.. chronic fatigue and my muscles tighten.. I need hope, I never felt good about Ms treatments. I have had Ms for 16 years.. then more and more autoimmune diseases kept coming.. what did you do to heal? I want to drive and hike again.

[@tiap2152]

Where did you publish it please?

[@MiaJ-t3s]

I had asthma for 10 years and had to take steroids. After reading and studying about immune system I decided to try to go a different route. Instead of killing my immune system I decided to take something that is calming your immune. I took quercetin with bromaline supplements. 3 weeks later my asthma was gone. My doctors don’t even want hear it.

[@MelissaFortune]

Yeah this is crazy I was born with asthma . And I had the gamut of long disorders with that hay fever bronchitis allergies all my life. Fast forward I get the MS diagnosis in my late thirties I reviewed everything they were talking about definitely wasn't getting ready to sit for 2 hours several times a week to let them pump experimental drugs in my brain like that wasn't going to happen. After that I got a divorce and relocated ironically I had one bad asthma attack right after the divorce. After all of this I relocated and the most ironic thing is from the time I relocated until now I don't have any allergies I don't have asthma anymore for the first time in my life I don't even have a pump and a pump was a part of everything in my life all my life I did the whole steroid thing at certain points too two. Anywho everything went away when I moved and then several years ago I fell leaving the pool and from that time the disease took hold and my entire life just shut down and is just horrible I don't even have a life anymore really I never leave the house I barely can walk is absolutely terrifying. I'm self-employed business has been super slow doing large part to the fact I can't go out and find new clients anymore. So now I'm trying to treat myself with you know good diet and red light therapy and you know just trying to figure it out

[@mail2vw]

How much are you taking?

[@johnknight2012]

No they Dont ! So True!

[@TCMcGowan]

Fantastic, this needs to be shared far and wide. Amazing science.

[@kb7128]

What I’ve come to notice more and more is, so many people with MS were very active, physically fit people prior to diagnosis. I was a fitness trainer for big corporations and this knocked me right out of the box. It seems obvious that with exercise, our core temps elevate causing internal heat which is a trigger for exacerbations. Has anyone else learned more on this aspect of MS?

[@MinnieOnCam]

Yes Heat for some makes their symptoms more active. it did for me, so exercise has been changed and there are cooling vest, and fans you would wear while exercising.

[@laughterpandemic]

Not Heat its animal products and obsession with protein. I noticed that lots of GYM 'fit' people take protein shakes made with powdered cows milk (not our species). The body has to fight it as "not me " just as it would reject a transplanted organ. Plus Human breast milk is about 6% protein so that is the amount we need as humans. How do you think the body would react to lots of rats or dogs milk and its products several times a day. Plus meat is very acidic and lots of fit people are brainwashed into thinking they need lots of it. You should see Teh Game changers movie as maybe it will help.

[@emmajooste9672]

Hi. It is so interesting to read your comment. When I was 26 years old I used to go to the gym 7 days a week for circuit training on all of the machines followed by a mile swim afterwards. I started with numbness in my legs just after my 27th birthday which continued to progress to symptoms all over my body. Three months after my 28th birthday I was finally given a diagnosis...that of RRMS. The MS hit me hard. I have never been given any MS DMTs which has allowed my MS symptoms to progress. I am now 44 years old and find it difficult to walk from my lounge to my kitchen, let alone go to the gym. It would be interesting to know if there is some link between very actively fit people and the on-set of MS. Also, one of my main symptom triggers is heat! Emma

[@Kristina-yr6xg]

This theory does not fit to my two Cousins nor a friend...I would say it's from a vaccine in earlier childhood which triggers a myelitis which leads to MS that is my opinion..I mean a myletis is post vaccine sympton...

[@neww0lf611]

MS and hyperactiveness has something to do with.. I was a mechanic always on my foot moving my body.. healthy individual but i do suffer from ADHD, always hyperactive and can't sit idle for long... i was 27 when diagnosed and but symptom started at 25.. now 30 can't walk without a stick.

[@Jennifer-ls5ke]

This is an incredible episode. Inspiring for everyone with a so called incurable illness. Thank you so much ❤

[@jellybeansi]

It's bullshit. There is no treatment to reverse MS.

[@markkerryfinney5608]

So inspirational! Thank you for sharing such a wonderful story. Hopefully this can inspire those who suffer with this disease & those of us who don't but know the health benefits of plant based living. ❤️👏

[@jonijacobs8499]

Good on you! Happy for you and grateful for you sharing and helping others. ❤

[@famasmaster2000]

Praying for all here 🙏 ❤️

[@mini4196]

Wow🌞🌞this was mind blowing interview 🙏 thank you both so much for sharing😇😇

[@mae9064]

Fantastic show Chuck and Dr Gartland. Utterly inspirational❤regards from Ireland 🇮🇪

[@jewelsngemsbycheav]

Thank you for this. Was recently told that I have 2 new lesions. Diagnosed on 3.2.18. I'll be following

[@KarenLee-ne6he]

Fabulous thank you for this episode. I follow the OMS programme and it really is a game changer. The seven steps cover more than just diet (although that's key) - my favourite is 'do whatever it takes'. Empowering and hope filled. Everyone who gets diagnosed should be given this info

[@adelaidegrayjordaan3962]

Thank you sooo much for this program! I have been living with progressive MS for 30 years now. Never give up hope, where there is still live, there is still hope! I am 70 years old now and wont give up hope till the day I die! Winnie Jordaan from South Africa!❤❤❤

[@Brider-jb4um]

Thankfully my parents had the resolve to change my diet at an early age.. I was able to go decades without a major setback.

[@Wishing_you_peace]

I know someone with MS who did well with this diet for a couple of years but still moved into the progressive stage of the disease. Good luck x

[@AD-BC-84]

Some attacks are a lot worse than others and leave damage and symptoms that seem to be permanent, or certainly don't fully recover for years after the attack, even with plant based diet

[@demoskunk]

@@AD-BC-84 Plant-based diets damage our health.

[@nerychristian]

Thiamine injections, hyperbaric oxygen treatment, and dry fasting helps

[@Shaycomposedbackagaingains]

This is awesome. It's great to see ANOTHER ONE. The truth should be promoted by Mainstream Media, but I'm completely aware that doing so, isn't a part of certain agendas, which is sad. Every patient is completely different, and what works for someone else, didn't necessarily work for others. I have RRMS, so I know firsthand about MS. I took, was a Certified Sports Trainer, with the National Academy of Sports Medicine. There's so much to be uncovered, yet, there's so much STILL being hidden. Why is this man not in the biggest newspapers in the Country? It's not promoted because it will cause 'issues'. I'll leave it right there. GOD BLESS HIM, for coming out and talking about it. I heard some stuff about Ms. Donna Eden as well defeating MS. The list will continue to grow, THAT'S MY PRAYER. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😊!! 🧱 walls are meant to be broken.

[@lynnmcmillian5137]

Thank you for not being afraid to stand for true Health!❤

[@TomRommelmann]

Wonderful and inspiring story! I just sent this to a friend who's wife is dealing with MS. I thank you and thank God for steering me to your interview!

[@debbiemarchbanks8538]

Following Carnovore WOE Was a total life changer for my RRMS! Dr Ken Berry, Dr Anthony Chaffee, etc! Best to all!!

[@mycomage]

I tried vegan/PBWF for 8.5 years but I did not start experiencing healing until I went high-fat carnivore in '21

[@kathymyers7279]

I’ve lost over 100 lbs while not exercising and eating dairy and meats. Energy UP! No more shortness of breath while has ALL lead me to increased exercise which has lifted my entire soul up. Whatever works for YOU.

[@aliciar.2016]

Are you saying you did or did not eat dairy and meat?

[@trapped-ion]

​@@aliciar.2016 LOL. I was going to ask the same thing. I've tried all interpretation combinations but walked away empty-handed.

[@kellio8087]

I chose an anti-inflammatory diet and focused on vitamins and minerals that heals the nervous system. Eliminated all stess until got better. Symptoms were gone 1-2 months later.

[@yuukielric6756]

What are the vitamins and minerals that you took?

[@dshoccz]

Magnesium

[@kathykonkle1097]

My exact choice as well. Stress>Inflammation> Poor nutrition>Fear & worry>Lack of sleep>Not enough sunshine & fun = autoimmune disease

[@kellio8087]

@kathykonkle1097 YES! I had the same symptoms as you and in the same order. Doctors were no help, so I had to do my own research to save myself. Perhaps you did the same type of research 🤔

[@kellio8087]

@@dshoccz Yes, magnesium was a big one.

[@RANDOMPLANET]

A little misleading. All MS is different. RRMS, PPMS, SPMS are all different forms and literally every different case affects everyone differently. What he did was not 'cure' his MS at all, it was simply treatment through diet and lifestyle. That works for some, but sadly not for many. Just because 2 doctors reverse their own diagnosis, but yet tens of thousands more do not as a person who suffers with advanced stage RRMS, where it wasn't discovered until after I had 8 lesions on my spinal cord and 13 in the white matter of my brain, and have worked my way back to walking through diet and exercise as well, that does NOT mean I am 'cured' or no longer have MS.. it means I am treating it with a better lifestyle. Sorry, but this is legitimately clickbait. Sorry, but after 5 years and all the articles I have read, doctors I talk to, and hundreds of other MS sufferers in discords I am part of... it doesn't work that way.. every case is wildly different, which is why there is no cure, only treatments. And he says this is a be all end all, and he isn't even 50. Diet and exercise can slow it.. but he will have issues later in life, because the disease is still there, whether he wants to acknowledge it or no. Hope is good, but making people think they can 'get rid of MS' with good lifestyle decisions alone is dangerous.

[@yourcelebrant]

So how long were you purely plant based and following the protocol he, Swank, McDougall and many others doctors recommend ? Reading about something / Talking about something, thinking about something has never cured anybody, as McDougall says, "The easiest way of doing anything is doing it 100%" So I repeat... How long were you 100% following the Swank / McDougall / Goldner protocol ? When this guys Scan came back with No lesions.... that tells me he's snuffed out the disease. Will it return.... Maybe. But you seem to be wishing it on him to prove your point and that is a low act.

[@johnsmith-zf1fd]

hes 43

[@RANDOMPLANET]

​@@yourcelebrant Okay... thats were I KNOW it is a snake oil salesman... lesions don't just poof. He might not have anymore ACTIVE lesions, but many lesions are where damage is done via your immune system attacking the lining of your nerves, causing scar tissue and damage to the nerves themselves. Unless he is somehow suggesting that diet also reverses nerve damage and deletes scar tissue... Something tells me this is 100% wordplay for clout. He is treating his MS through diet and lifestyle changes, it didn't miraculously go away. Once again selling snake oil, especially with diseases where there is no cure and you need to keep on top of treatments and lifestyles... IS DANGEROUS. Someone who believes this will 100% work will have a bad experience if they stop all treatments for this 'cure'.. because NO TWO CASES of MS are exactly the same.

[@JulieTobin-Ruszczyk]

It's autoimmune. Diet can control it. To the point you are functional.

[@karenpny]

We can change the trajectory. I did. 12 years now. Nutrition and fitness. I had been in a bad way and mostly symptom free now. Keep going!

[@WOK-YT-handle]

Beautiful story. Spreading good in the world ❤

[@tamarawestberry8838]

Thanks for this information. I'm kicking MS in the Teeth. I've been interviewed locally. I started a support group. Often research UK and Australia. I am more Functional and Naturalist methods. They work!! I've had lesions disappear off my cranial. Confirmed by 3 MS Neurology specialist.

[@hussainalhuwaykim9639]

can i contact you?

[@hussainalhuwaykim9639]

what did you do please?

[@DanteLikesRock]

what did you do.

[@trapped-ion]

YT should give the option for negative votes like Reddit does - too many down-votes results in a temporary commenting ban,which is a nice reward) for such vapourware comments that offer no diagnostic value or practical help other than stating diluted general information and mere abstracts. Likes and dislikes are not sufficient. Maybe someone understands the psychology behind such semi-valuable comments, but to me, withholding details when a fellow MS suffer knows the desperation and quest for solutions from other MSers, comes off as just boisterous, if not cruel. Just my two cents' worth.🫥

[@quinquinn8659]

So glad to discover your video today …I was diagnosed 14 years ago and my ms has changed a bit but maybe I’m not as mindful as I could be …so this has boosted me back on the right track ….( just home from a cycle with the dog ) Let’s remind myself all the recommendations again and get back on track .thank you - stay healthy

[@adiposerex5150]

Wow what a history. I am amazed that anyone had useful lifestyle advice for this lucky doctor. Congrats on joining the good fight.

[@michaelclennan8425]

All Doctors are not the same. Some are scientists and healers. Some are average and follow the agreed approved protocols. Some do not care and want the reimbursement. Most Americans like in confusion.

[@bowwow7505]

Out of the horse’s mouth, Doctors don’t become doctors because they care and want to save lives, they become doctors for the money

[@Just_Lurking8]

Thank you so much, I’m sending it to my friend that has MS…

[@MD-cn1nt]

I know it's supposed to be helpful, and is to many, but it's so frustrating and confusing to have such radically opposing dietary approaches to MS out there, each saying the other side's logic is flawed and pointing to this or that study or this or that person who has recovered and claiming proof of efficacy as a result. The fundamental approach to Swank is the removal of saturated fat, with recommendations of multiple servings of grain and legumes daily. Meanwhile the Wahls/Keto/Paleo protocols point to science that says that (the right) saturated fats are a key to combatting MS and regenerating myelin, and that grains and legumes are major contributing factors to MS. Then allopathic doctors say nutrition has virtually no impact on the progression of the disease. The only real answer is to be your own guinea pig and watch what happens. It wouldn't be quite so maddening if the stakes weren't so high, but it's my f'ing life you'e talking about here.

[@veganwinter2090]

I've been vegan for about 25 years, and have had a lot less health issues. Accountants are trained to make their error on the side of conservancy, so it's rather better to be safe than sorry, ❤love. I'm also somewhata religious vegan also I study different sacred texts and the early messages for us to be strict vegetarians /vegan is almost lost but it is out there and it is recommended as a practically panacean diet, along with fasting once a week. So I don't eat anything of the forbidden fruits of the tree of knowledge of Good and evil which is all of us creatures people's animals out here in this world. (Ref. Traditional references and Essene Gospels of Peace book one, gnostic texts found at Nag Hammadi Egypt ( and Pistis Sophia)). I'm glad also that I've learned to fast once a week.

[@stephangauthier911]

word! I just don't know what to eat anymore. Saturated fats are a big no-no that's for sure, as well as processed unhealthy foods that's a given. But when it comes to fat free yougurt (greek in peticular), fruits and vegetables and types of meat, nuts and legumes, rice and whole grain (bread, oats, etc), I'm totally out of ideas. I'm losing weight and cognitive function fast and I don't know what to load up with. My GI is all over the place and reacting to almost everything.

[@kathykonkle1097]

Eat the full fat yogurt and dairy products. The low fat thing is because 85% of people are obese. The fat in the milk products will help to slow down the zooming effects of the milk sugars helping you to regulate your blood sugar. Sugar is bad. Eat low carb but not NO carb. Choose organic grains when possible. It's the pesticides, chemicals like Roundup and processing that's the real problem. Aim to eat food as close to the way nature made it. If you eat beef- a steak is better than a hamburger. Organic chicken is good. Organic eggs if you're not allergic should be OK. Avoid refined processed oils. Cold pressed oils are OK. Olive oil is good, ground up sesame seeds (tahini) is high in calories and good. Buy nuts fresh never on sale and keep in then in the fridge or freezer. I put some out in jars and freeze the rest. Limit sodium. Wash fruits well. Keep a food diary and try to spot patterns. I fall asleep sitting up at my desk after eating cereals. I get a stuffy nose from who knows what. Still trying to figure that out. Good luck and remember everyone is different. Use your own intuition, pay attention to how you feel and try not to get too obsessive over it. @@stephangauthier911

[@bother222]

​@@stephangauthier911what is wrong with saturated fats?

[@shaderuiz7264]

@@stephangauthier911 I just started to change my diet was last month knowing I just did MRI three years ago they suspection demyelinating disease now I got to take it seriously, I don't want to be disable to this day feel the same way don't know what to eat sometimes.

[@garyssimo]

I have a friend who has Parkinsons and I bet that can also be overcome. This mans story needs to be given to every MS sufferer worldwide! Animal fat collects all the toxins they bioacumulste? Roundup is water soluble and getting into our air, rain, etc and I think is causing huge health problems. This is my favorite podcast of Chucks ive seen! I feel like getting a spray can of paint and writing ITS THE FOOD! on every hospital around here.

[@annemccarron2281]

Dr. Brooke Goldner cured her Lupus with a WFPB diet. Many have cured CVD, cancer, type II diabetes and numerous other diseases. Some doctor's say even type I diabetes can be cured. These diseases originated from a bad diet and they can often be cured by a WFPB diet!

[@MohammadAsif-tu2os]

How's your friend now? Tell him to follow the whal's protocol

[@demoskunk]

Ruminant animals filter out most toxins. It's the fruit and veggies that absorb toxins and roundup. Red meat is the healthiest food.

[@colingathercole391]

The humble potato is chemical attack 5 times before it gets on your plate, the last chemical attack is round up to kill off the potato plant, while at the same time some of the poison gets stored in the potato.

[@Miceliism]

Your brain is 80% fat Myelin sheath that is damaged is fat. I'm carnivore, I no longer have MS

[@FRANCISCOPerez-wm8ez]

Thank you for sharing this helpful info. From El Paso Texas

[@TheMeJustMe75]

I got my MS confirmation diagnosis today. I found out the medication is going to cost $346 a month after the pharmacy called me. I take supplements that are supposed to be helpful and I also go to the gym to lift weights. I have good and bad days related to walking. Took my son to the movies the other day and could barely get up the steps to our seats. Some days I can walk with ease but my gate is always off. Hopefully I can get some treatment answers that I can slow it down or stop it completely.

[@swilbo7139]

Hi, look into Coimbra protocol. Basically high dose vitamin D. The quicker you start the better. It apparently can heal nerve damage. Do research on vitamin D. My client found out to late in her MS journey. But hers has not declined in 9 years, and rarely does she go to a doctor or use any prescription drugs. All the best.

[@lesliex7894]

Sorry about your diagnosis. I'd recommend specialised exercises, not just weight lifting. I like MSing Link and MS Gym . Food was easiest to change for me, have never liked exercise.

[@GodsGirl-mf8hm]

Something to think about is that sugar feeds EVERY disease out there. Grains break down into sugars. Fruits have sugar. People have been eating carnivore for thousands of years and yet MS is a new phenomenon.

[@nancyheier7920]

I've had multiple sclerosis for 38 years. I was eating a very, very clean vegan diet and kept getting worse. I switched to carnivore fifteen years ago and have never felt better since. I take no disease modifying drugs. I'm off of three high blood pressure medicines off of muscle spasm medication and morphine for horrific pain. Everyone's body acts differently to the oxalates and lectins when not a carnivore.

[@debbietaylor20]

Carnivore diet seems to help everything ❤

[@kathykonkle1097]

Most likely the diet that works is the one you believe works. The mind & brain are very powerful. Just use common sense and eat as natural as possible and avoid fake processed junk food.

[@NYNC88]

Thanks for posting about your experience. Wishing you continued good health.

[@susanlimbaugh9616]

It’s so confusing. I got diagnosed over 30years ago, in 1990. I had a benign course until 2006. Now I have the worst pain and am on so many medications! I got better after many years. In 2012 I switched to strict paleo/ all organic/ grass fed. I also did IV vitamins and minerals, and IV glutathione in 2012-2013. I don’t know what got me better. I did postural alignment therapy and then got a personal trainer (2016) cuz my pain made me so inactive and I literally lost all my muscle. Built back up, started feeling better in 2017, got back to work and EVERYTHING. Then , while eating Paleo (not as strict, but pretty strict)? I got breast cancer. My life went down again. Cancer was treated, no recurrence so far. So I have no motor function problems from MS … just the worst pain. I don’t see anyone talking about pain but noticed that you mentioned morphine, so thought I’d reach out. My pain is officially HORRIFIC. I can’t work anymore, and can barely do anything unless I take medication. For cancer, BTW, a vegan diet is recommended. That’s such a huge turnaround from Paleo! Now I don’t know what to eat or do. Any thoughts. Thank you so much, if you read this!!

[@Erik-jv6fu]

Congrats Nancy. Do you eat eggs/butter? Do you eat only grass fed meat or a variety?

[@amitmor392]

Thank you for this talk. I will share it with my patients 🙏🏻

[@sheralschowe]

Outstanding testimony to the magical benefits of a WFPB lifestyle. Overcoming MS. Absolutely amazing and inspiring AND possible!!

[@tunneltu]

Not to be a downer, but its called relapsing - REMITTING - for a reason. I`m waiting to see his full lasting recovery 10+ years

[@mb1957]

I was dx at age 45 …. Optic neuritis but realize I was having mild neuropathy symptoms in the year or two leading up to that. One year later I had double vision . These events resolved well with time. I refused to go on meds and started the journey of self healing. I did really well for the first 10 -12 years and even though diet and exercise help immensely I am in a slow slide with strength etc. I’m also using Tao patches right now which have really helped with balance issues. I still walk unassisted but muscles get tired more quickly now. My neuro is amazed…. I’m 72 now… and said keep doing what you are doing because it is working! Winter is very hard because of cold and decreased exposure to sun. Sun helps me feel much better! I’m a firm believer in diet changes . I’m very interested in getting the book you have written. I have no family he of anything like this . I was a nurse for 45+ years so lots of pressure from various avenues as well as raising a family. All the best to everyone who is fighting the fight ! Stay strong and keep learning!

[@M1dfielder]

Omg. "Completely inadequate response to what I was facing" is exactly how I felt when I was sent home from hospital after diagnosis. I was given leaflets and just didn't really know what would happen next. When would they contact me? Should I return to work? I felt like they'd wiped their hands of me. I'm interested to learn more about this. I thought you were going to be a "quack". Its a breath of fresh air to hear your English accent, and see that you're a normal person, no showmanship. Thank you.

[@charlenetuttle6668]

Anyone who can see this and has MS, like I have had for 25 years, please try Lion’s Mane mushroom powder. It changed my life for the better!

[@ninadillon1689]

thats amazing, i love mushrooms!!

[@charlenetuttle6668]

@@ninadillon1689 I am taking Ocrevus, and it has kept me pretty stable. The powdered lion’s mane in a protein drink every morning has really made me feel and move so much better. 🍄 💕

[@ThatsBrilliant25]

Can you tell us more? Thx!

[@AnthonyOkafor-cc6uu]

How can i get mushroom powder. I have ms and is killing me.

[@Timtams61]

​@@AnthonyOkafor-cc6uu do Carnivore diet many have been healed by this..

[@monicarose2135]

Iyengar yoga for MS has helped many, contact Garth McClean. There’s also a book by Eric Small, both of these men were diagnosed w/MS decades ago.

[@jmc8076]

Congrats Dr Gartland. TY for sharing. True humility always appreciated. Hoping labels and division in health will be obsolete one day. Just medicine/health science for benefit of humans worldwide. Ideally based on cooperation and free open respectful debate and dialogue. Some say crowd funding for studies may help. Maybe if implemented so researchers are 100% free to report any/all results and objective/unbiased w/no hidden or potential conflicts of interest. Prob a long way off.

[@995freetree]

Powerful " How are you going to value the life that you Have"

[@fusunguzelmeric7305]

Çok teşekkürler. İlham verici bir video.

[@laughterpandemic]

I love that they are proving the links between animal products and MS. More and more people should be told about this and it's crazy that doctors are not trained in this. I always link my client to Plant based doctors website Nutritionfacts and any research, so that they can help themselves to NOT recreate their disease unknowingly.

[@bhavnasoni711]

Great information as always 👍 👌 👏

[@Starchaser63]

Very inspirational interview 👏 showing the effectiveness of nutrition on health. After years of excess animal protein I've just adopted a WFPB diet and feeling great after just one week. 👍

[@maryanncincinnati793]

I have PPMS and wheelchair bound. I got tons of sunlight when I was little. But as for healthy eating, not so much growing up in a big Italian family. Lots of pasta.

[@msagoo29]

Do not give up hope. I also have PPMS and have pushed myself through intense neuro-physio and now do 40mins daily on the spin bike and feel like a different person now. Try to move as much as you can - even if it's only your arms, just move and get that BDNF and neurotrophins flowing through your CNS.

[@st6548]

Very interesting and useful, really a great video, thank you for taking the time to present this information.

[@zerobudgethealth3308]

Multiple sclerosis (MS) is reversible by Lifestyle Medicine - the way we eat, feel, love & live. - George Jelinek, MD has many books 📚 & article in respected medical journals

[@cindydavis9559]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 fantastic and thank you for sharing.

[@sallythornton2774]

I had an event at 39 after a stressful time. I had a 2nd event 15yrs later where I woke up one day and couldn't walk very well. I continued for a further 11yrs taking bit d3:and foolishly overdosed on zinc drops that triggered an attack 2 weeks later. I am now 70, ride a motorbike and eat healthily. I am not on any drugs though I did try aubagio for 10 days and felt like I was dying so stopped. Stay fit, eat healthy and think positive

[@jamescullen6035]

This is awesome! It irritates me on how mostly the doctors nowadays just want to write a prescription that only causes more problems!? I am diabetic and I follow whole food plant based and energy is out of the roof and also my numbers. It is all about the food you consume!!😁👍💪 Congratulations Dr 👨‍⚕️ on your accomplishment!!

[@carmenfreitas168]

Now that symptoms are gone. And MRI was clear. Do you still take the medication.? Excellent content.

[@Nutbelly123]

Thank you. Congratulations to living life well

[@nancynicolaou8375]

I was doing yardwork and got bit by a tick and went six years with no antibiotic cause I didn’t have a bull’s-eye. I kept saying it was a tick bite and they kept giving me the test in the hospital. Don’t they know that that tick goes in your bone in tissue and not your blood. That’s why the test were coming negative. Long story short I almost died from an MS, drug and steroids, you have to go to a Lyme literate doctor when you get bit by a tick only and I did the best test in the country I Gen X it came positive for Lyme. Are we check for Lyme first with a lyme literate Dr!!!

[@DianaBumanglag]

Please interview Dr Robert Morse or Yahki Awakened regarding healing. Diet, exercise, sunshine, meditation are crucial to heal.

[@leonieduplessis4467]

Fantastic Guy "Dr" with a big smile YES PLANTBASED WAY OF EAT 👍👍👍👍😊Yes Big Thanks Chuck

[@iuliia8051]

I recently cut out 90% of processed sugar except the one in yogurt. I had to stop taking my DMD and to my surprise half of my symptoms disappeared. Also grains, especially gluten. I feel good and i don't want to ever go back on DMD. They gave me horrible suicidal intrusive thought. Heat is horrible for me. But in the cool environment i feel perfect.

[@SunFellow941]

This video has left me more confused about nutrition and MS than I was before. He mentions Prof. Schwenk and the youtube channel all about MS run by Dr. Beaber. So I went to Beaber's channel and he says that Schwenk's diet allows boneless chicken, egg whites, and nonfat milk. Beaber also discusses Dr John McDougall's plant-based research and says that it didn't work at all for MS, in fact his patients got worse. Gartland's own page points to protocols that recommend a pescatarian diet-- fish plus vegan foods. Gartland also mentions prostate cancer and diet, yet I've heard the Dr. Dean Ornish's research on this topic didn't show a statistically significant change in his patients (although they didn't get worse). Gartland also states that you have to remove unhealthy fats and replace them with healthy fats. This might explain the pro-fish position on links found on Gartland page. And if he isn't eating fish, does he rely on lots of flax seed-- I remembered he mentioned using flax in a fruit smoothie? This scenerio is reminding me more of Dr. Brooke Goldner's protocol for auto-immune diseases with a huge focus on omega 3 seeds, something you never hear from most plant-based doctors that say not to get any nuts or seeds at all. Gartland give little specificity on what his diet is and how this compares with others that have reversed MS. Also, Dr. Wahl reversed her MS and recovered after being a wheelchair and she did it on modified paleo diet (lots of meat and vegetables) and when Wahl was diagnosed with MS she had been on a mostly low fat vegetarian diet. Unfortunately, there are almost no other interviews with Gartland on the internet where he might clarify what his diet entails, and what it is exactly that he thinks works to reverse MS.

[@ThePikadrew]

Thats because its treatment of MS, not a reversal. The disease is still there, and can effect the patient through many means later on. This type of 'snake oil salesman' cures are incredible misleading and dangerous to people who actually believe it is a be all end all cure.

[@ninasnutritionandwellnessvideo]

Dr. McDougall said his MS patients were able to reverse MS. From what I've learned is that some people can improve when they remove dairy and processed foods, but other people need to be strictly WFPB.

[@SunFellow941]

@@ninasnutritionandwellnessvideo But WFPB is what he was using in his research, but Dr. Beaber-- whose entire channel deals with research on MS, said McDougall research was a failure. I haven't read the research myself, Dr, but Beaber is simply interested in what works-- he reviews all diets. I've never seen McDougall pop his research up on a screen to show how well it worked.

[@ninasnutritionandwellnessvideo]

@@SunFellow941 Dr. McDougall provides research on some of his videos. Dr. Brooke Goldner’s protocol is probably more effective for MS since it’s a lot more restrictive.

[@MM-qp4pd]

Yeah I feel like I wasted my time watching this whole video. Plant based is the message but he could have explained that within 10 min. Have you tried energy medicine? There is a woman who recovered from MS using energy medicine. I think it's called Eden energy medicine

[@janetfagan7536]

This is a great interview. However, I have not heard anything about exactly what foods he eats, and. doesn’t eat or can’t eat. I really would like to hear more specifics about the food and the plant-based diet he went on.

[@AloBurak]

People's belief is the issue more than anything I find!

[@estherbarnslater7613]

Doctor , I have been in a fight for almost 15 years. I happened to come upon your video. Changing your diet I heard you say. I’m already small. Been through a lot, from b tumors, beat two breast cancers, I have vasculitis of cns, Behcet disease. I think it’s from exposure in military. I was once physically fit and now barely getting by.

[@_brasse]

My MS doctor will not even consider the possibility that I have been mis-diagnosed - they are blinded by the scar tissue on my MR scans - I guess that if he only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. I recently made an FMT (Feacal microbiome transplant) on my own initiative, and for the first time in 25 years I felt a tremendous betterment… unfortunately it didn't stick, but now I am convinced that what I have said all along, ie that I do not have ms. That seems like an obvious conclusion since 6 MS specific treatments in a row, have failed me and has now left me in a wheelchair.

[@angeliquetamsinpotgieter1165]

S wonderful and true, I know exactly how to eat to halt my MS and reverse symptoms, I've done so much research over the last 2 year, bur my issue is I'm a single mom with 2 kids, no financial help and battle to feed us so I eat everything I shouldn't as it's the cheap food and I hate it, my MS is glaring again and I know it's my diet and just feel helpless

[@Youssefhawk]

How do you reverse ms and stop progression please?

[@Callummullans]

Eat sardines, figs, pumpkin seeds and almonds. This is going to level the catecholamine and oxytocin levels which will relieve symptoms of chronic stress, pain and fatigue. Water hyssop is also really good.

[@bekh759]

My M.S has been reversed. No new Lesions in 12 years and I now have 0 (Zero) “bands” in my spinal fluid

[@Top3-Tech20]

How did you achieve this?

[@cheridalee460]

Help I’m terrified

[@Ap9-q5f]

How was this done? Please reply?

[@Gloksic12]

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[@jenuine3611]

Great talk, thank you. It's a bit confusing to hear such conflicting information, however, as in direct contrast to Dr. Terry Wahls who put her MS into remission. She was vegan - and then got sick - and now promotes a varied diet of vegetables and meats. It seems as thought there's studies supporting both...which to believe?

[@DanteLikesRock]

Meat based, dairy free.

[@trapped-ion]

Or what works for you

[@tracyhayes4074]

Thank you. What great information

[@AD-BC-84]

What about the symptoms from really bad MS attacks that last for over a year and seem to be permanent to some degree? Is there any information on how to heal the damage from long lasting symptoms that a plant based diet alone doesnt heal?

[@glennmariacher4525]

I'm so glad for your results and finding this priceless info. It continues to be confusing, though, how so many things have been corrected with the intake of saturated fat; such as the entire family of Jordan Peterson, which took them all of a basket full of meds. This is an on-going discovery for us all. Thank you and congratulations. Glenn

[@raesen1462]

I appreciate this podcast. I was recently diagnosed with ms (9/12/23) My story is very similar. I just got put onto fml. The neurologist I see has even sad that I have a “special case” of ms. I’m not entirely sure of what that means or how severe it may be. . The scan results were 😟 I start IV infusion 11/16. I like to use the stationary bike multiple times a day 10 minute sessions, more if I could. I use PT exercises often, and I’m looking into a new diet to help as well. Reading, reading, listening, watching anything on ms that could help me. I want to be how I was before, I want to work and know that I can confidently, without shame, at least be able to walk around a grocery store. Again, I appreciate this podcast and hear a story very similar to my own. 😔👏

[@halcyon-cg2eb]

Wishing you all the best on your journey to recovery! hang in there, you are stronger than you might think. May I also suggest that you look into Dr. Brooke Goldner, she's amazing!

[@susanmunslow5989]

Yes, yes, yes, there are many MS diagnosed patients who have found all this works. First diagnosis 2008, first optic neuritis 1996. Now age 73. Very few symptoms, in fact fitter than many of my generation. Diet, exercise, keeping busy, and mindset.

[@sarakhaldi5085]

I go in for my second part on the 22nd of November. I am in the same boat as you. I can’t wait to be able to walk non sloppy again. This is so depressing for me, not to be a downer.

[@raesen1462]

@@sarakhaldi5085 it is understandable and you are not being a downer. It’s a sudden change in our lives that make it so hard to accept. It was for me anyway and it took me a while to actually do something about it 😅 Had my first appointment yesterday, I don’t feel so fatigued like they said I may feel like. I believe using a stationary bike really helped that for me. How was your first appointment? I hope it went well! ❤

[@raesen1462]

@@susanmunslow5989 Diet exercise and keeping busy with hobbies! Yes yes yes I do a lot of cleaning during my time off currently and I feel like that helps. I’m glad it’s working for you and that is my goal!!

[@bother222]

There are exemples of people with MS getting better on animal-based diets with lots of animal saturared fats.

[@Timtams61]

Yes the Carnivore diet.

[@nicolethomas3633]

Thank you 🙏 for this‼️‼️

[@bonitabonita3431]

Having my first relapse after being diagnosed fourteen (14) years ago. My vitamin d level was #7. Now, I’m looking forward to complete recovery.

[@andreag.6977]

Thanks for sharing.

[@judyclifford7238]

Amazing interview!

[@roofandlilies]

How I wish I had seen this or a similar podcast 12 years ago when my husband was diagnosed with motor neurone disease Now I’m on a mission to understand more on how food can heal our bodies

[@elainekoeppel7250]

What is the diet that got you well. Tell us

[@IS-LUV]

Great story and so hopeful for so many! Word is getting out more and more about reversing MS and autoimmune diseases. Dr Brooke Goldner is living and sharing this message too! Grateful for her and you who are helping so many. 🙏🫶

[@YvonneShamsan]

Great movie!!! Bravo!!! 🤗🌿🌾✔️

[@dorishardystanley9977]

Recovering is overstatee

[@deborahtruthseeker112]

What if he is simply in remission? I have much trouble believing this, but I want to.😮

[@nzuri5459]

Let me learn something new. We say in Africa that "the healer does not cheat"

[@shanesampson9730]

Because those he could not heal died, so they could not tell that he cheated them

[@PooPooBanana2]

The Rose Leslie video made me cryyyy

[@Sbannmarie298]

Absolutely do not recommend vegan diets for. Autoimmune diseases.

[@Harris19941]

why

[@swatigosavi7634]

Soo what lifestyle changes he made? Diet followed? How did he reverse his MS ?

[@zrobo]

I have talked to about a 100 people who totally defeated MS and then relapsed again. Now, I just say talk to me again in 40 years.

[@PooPooBanana2]

I will be sending this to everyone I know with MS

[@elizabethortiz-ce7jt]

Hi I really would like the info for this Diet so that it can change my life. Thank u ❤