Doctor Who 6x13 REACTION!! "The Wedding of River Song"

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[@calebbowey2072]

That awkward moment when you get shot by your wife, in front of your wife, who then proceeds to try kill your wife, while your best friend is to the side pregnant... WITH YOUR WIFE

[@galonski64]

Part right, river purposely miss shooting the spacesuit, she already knew about who it was.

[@catxborsuq1]

Is that a meme by any chance? Cause I remember reading this precise sentence somewhere...

[@maeahem]

catxborsuq1 it is, I remember posting a meme about it when the episode came out

[@paddystrongjaw9995]

Caleb Bowey relatable

[@bluestar2059]

@Conrad Ferrus Maybe she remembers someone shooting her the first time.

[@Wolf6119]

The fixed point in time was River shooting the Tessalecta, all along. Time fucked up because that exact thing didn't happen, not because the Doctor survived. It's just that everyone THOUGHT it was River shooting the actual Doctor and killing him. Time itself wasn't "fooled" in any way, it always "knew" that was going to happen, but everyone else in the universe was fooled about what the fixed point actually was. Also, the "Doctor" we saw in this episode was actually the Tessalecta at every point after the intro sequence - so time started moving again when River touched the *Tessalecta*, not the actual Doctor.

[@TheMoonRover]

Yeah, it's about River shooting "the Doctor" not the Doctor dying.

[@AndrewEmmett]

I would go further to say that a Fixed Point is a point in time that has been physically observed by a time traveller, or perhaps even a crossing of a time travellers own timeline. However the specifics of the event may not be clear as in this example, so fixed points are open to manipulation if handled carefully. The Fires of Pompeii is a good example.

[@anonymes2884]

@@AndrewEmmett I see it more like a point for which it _doesn't matter_ if a time-traveller observes it or if/how they're involved, it has happened and it always will. Fixed points can't be manipulated but it's possible to realise they were never _actually_ what you thought they were, your information about them can change but the point itself can't. Like Wilf's four knocks for instance - for as long as there's been spacetime, that event has been there, waiting to happen to 10 (as he says "Because that's who you are, Wilfred. You were always this. Waiting for me all this time.") or Pompeii, where the event was always fixed, it's just that it turned out it was _also_ always instigated by the Doctor.

[@Helbore]

Yep, this. Still surprised that some people don't get how the fixed point works. There's never any change - just read up on the bootstrap paradox. The whole story is a predestination paradox and quite frankly, if you don't like that, then stop watching a show about time travel!

[@anonymes2884]

@@Helbore Indeed. Sometimes I think most of Moffat's era can be traced back to someone telling him "All You Zombies" was the ultimate predestination paradox story and him going "Hold my beer" ;). (he also seems to have read up on some actual physics though likely just at the pop-sci level - a lot of his ideas and even dialogue calls to mind the "block universe" concept from special relativity for instance)

[@icantthinkofagoodusername4575]

Brigadiers death wasn’t planned the actor died while Series 6 was Being filmed

[@craigtcaster]

Nicholas Courtney was the actor who played the Brig. He's the only actor to have appeared in the original series with ALL seven of the first Doctors. He played a different character with William Hartnell (1), in The Daleks Master Plan. Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart was introduced in two stories from Patrick Troughton's (2) time. When Jon Pertwee (3) took over, he was exiled to Earth, so worked with the Brig and Unit on a regular basis, which spilled over into Tom Baker's (4) era. He made a couple of appearances with Peter Davison (5). He didn't actually appear during Colin Bakers (6) regular years, but did appear with him in one scene from the 30th Anniversary short called Dimensions In Time, which most people would rather forget. His last on screen appearance in Doctor Who was with Sylvester McCoy (7). The actor did make several shows for Big Finish audio, including working with Paul McGann (8). Finally, he also made an on screen appearance with Elizabeth Sladen in the Sarah Jane Adventures. Sadly they both died within a couple of months of each other.

[@eclaire_x88x]

Brought a tear to my eye that

[@Tsukiakari-qb3tk]

horribly sad@@craigtcaster

[@craigtcaster]

I agree,@@Tsukiakari-qb3tk, it was! Especially Elizabeth because I hadn't even known she was sick.

[@sebradfield]

Craig Caster and Elizabeth Moore A big thumbs up to both of you. I don't find too many others (at least on these boards) who is as big a fan of the Brigadier as I am. As for Sarah Jane, well, she was one of the first companions I ever saw, so she'll always have a special place in my heart.

[@WhoviVortex]

Gah, Calvin's reaction to Brig's death. Such a heartbreaking scene in this one!

[@Triskaan]

Came here to talk about it... I only stayed with Cal during that scene.

[@carealoo744]

I can't wait, for them to get caught up, and say: 'Well, that was a lot of: 'Doctor Who!' But, it wasn't so bad! Now, let's see what all that: 'Classic Doctor Who,' is all about!'

[@1111e-t2b]

@@gavinhenderson7250 Har har, typical response. If you have no argument against this, then just be quiet. A holocaust of ugly people would benefit mankind.

[@gavinhenderson7250]

@@1111e-t2b trolling? Really? In this day and age?

[@1111e-t2b]

@@gavinhenderson7250 I don't know what I hate more. Ugly people, or people who think I'm trolling whenever I say this opinion anywhere on the internet. Newsflash people: when people have opinions that trigger you, that doesn't mean they're trolling.

[@matthewvido3902]

The fixed point was: Someone looking like the Doctor dies, which turns out to be the Teselecta. No one else was supposed to know it wasn't him

[@anonymes2884]

Exactly. The Doctor _appears_ to die and importantly is _witnessed_ appearing to die (so River can be jailed for his murder and so gets the invitation, goes to Lake Silencio etc.). But the Doctor _actually_ dying was never a requirement of the fixed point.

[@Mr_M_]

The Doctor's name is "Look into my eye" confirmed.

[@RaphGirl]

Nuh uh...his name is Please :P

[@marvelshield5061]

Maybe is his name in our language like the tenth doctor in series 2 said “physics,physics,physics...” this is the doctor explaining physics but in our language is too complicated so is translated in “physics”you know what I mean?😂

[@henrikjangel]

The real name of the Doctor is "Theta Sigma" and has been known since Tom Baker (1974-1981) played the Doctor. (the episode is named "The Armageddon Factor")

[@marvelshield5061]

henrikjangel theta sigma is the Doctor’s past self not his name (or at least is what it has been written on a Doctor Who page where you can search everything about it)

[@sean.a.s7234]

@@henrikjangel wasn't theta sigma his codename when he was in school?

[@baptistepg8707]

Fixed point: if River do not shoot the Doctor, she is not sent to prison for killing the Doctor. Then, all the adventures (episode) she had where she started in the prison could not have happened. Thus, making this a fixed point. River even left the prison to go to Lake SIlencio in the first episode of this season. If she do not kill the Doctor, she is NOT in prison, she can't receive the letter, thus she can't go to lake silencio, thus time is broken, etc...

[@bel410la]

Yes, so that's why when Amy early this season wanted to kill the person/young River in the astronaut suit and she told River, she said, it was a fixed point, she wasn't afraid of him dying, because this is future River, she knows he doesn't actually die. She knows she can't change what happened.

[@plantainsame2049]

Think that's how you make a fixed point you make them read it they know the doctor has to die because they saw that at least they saw him get shot and lit on fire teeny little bit of wiggle room

[@shanaali5302]

Calvins face when Brig dies, only he feels the pain

[@Dannydarko27]

Rory and Amy have the most epic lines, "It has activated ma'am" and "River Song didn't get it all from you, Sweetie" So much pain behind these simple lines.

[@cherine3229]

What if the doctors name is Hugh, and they’ve been telling us this whole time but we think they were asking Doctor Who?

[@icantthinkofagoodusername4575]

Sad thing is Both Nicholas Courtney and Elizabeth Sladen died around the same time

[@ryugaknight]

ICantThinkOfAGood Username Atleast they can go see, Jon Pertwee, and Robert Delgado, again.

[@7pitpat7]

@@ryugaknight Roger Delgado*

[@krisb.1565]

Technically they died within two months of each other, but it is depressing. Especially since she died right around the canon date the doctor “died”

[@giglefreakz]

Despite all the hate this storyarc gets, I really love the complexity of it.

[@npe9483]

I would pick it over juvenile Dalek world takeover plots any day of the week.

[@MARYWTHER]

And it's still not over at the point they're lol.

[@9Kualalumpur]

@@ookam9685 They had already guessed it by that point, them paying attention and discuss the story really led them to understand a lot of things way quicker. Heck, Shane guessed River was Amy's daughter in the first episode, if I'm not mistaken.

[@Y2M4444]

What complexity? It's wibbly wobbly timey wimey

[@stridecrafter5581]

Unpopular opinion: I never had trouble understanding the arc

[@alex_gaimar]

RIver "bought" a vortex manipulator from Dorium Maldovar in the beginning of The Pandorica Opens, not in Series 6.

[@coladict]

**sigh**... I said OFF the wrist! I love the facial expressions he made when he opened the box in that scene.

[@jeckjeck3119]

@@coladict ....The hand of Boe?

[@coladict]

@@jeckjeck3119 You do know that Jack wasn't the only time agent ever?

[@jeckjeck3119]

@@coladict I know..... but he has to become a giant head in the jar.... Did the monks help with that?

[@cait812]

@@jeckjeck3119 He was supposed to be in this episode and beheaded, hence becoming the Face of Bo but Barrowman was busy with other commitments so the blue guy was made to replace Jack.

[@MrHunkmccoy]

The Doctor was already in the Tesselecta when River killed him ANd then didn't kill him, and was still in the Tesselecta when he and River touched - he AND the Tesselecta were always part of events from the beginning. As Calvin said a Fixed point will always be going to have happened... think of a Fixed Point like the ultimate Bootstrap Paradox Eric - the fixed point is always there but in order for it to be always there it has to be initiated but which came first?

[@LazerDude]

I view time in this show like water... sometimes it is solid like Ice and can't be changed, sometimes it is more fluid and can be directed, and sometimes it is like a steam where everything is up in the air and can go in any direction depending on where the wind blows

[@valathor95]

Wow comment section for this one. Half of the commenters saying what a horrible episode this was, and the other half saying this is one of their favorite episodes. I personally loved the episode.

[@valathor95]

jockadoobee agree to disagree on that.

[@maxeyre2024]

Series 6 is one of the weakest for me. The only episodes I really enjoyed were The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon, The Doctor’s Wife, A Good Man Goes to War, The Girl Who Waited and The God Complex

[@Joshua-xh6bm]

I wish you guys the best of luck. Season 7 is a rollercoaster of emotions, full of good times and bad. But the Name/Day/Time trio of episodes/specials are by far the highlight of Doctor Who for me to this day. That's what I'm really waiting for.

[@fizzystarsong]

I've been waiting for those since they started this reaction series.

[@maxeyre2024]

Yeah definitely, the rest of Series 7 is pretty weak tbh. The only episodes I really enjoyed were Asylum of the Daleks, The Angels Take Manhattan, The Bells of St. John and The Name of the Doctor

[@Domino2097]

We got so closeeeeee to having a Christmas Special on Christmas week... ah well maybe next year

[@jameschan4929]

They probably filmed it during the week of Christmas though to be fair

[@charleyarcher8893]

Nope, not next year either :/ they'll be in the middle of Series 10.

[@Domino2097]

@@charleyarcher8893 i know but if they put some mini episodes in for a week or 2 we could get one if we're lucky that or they do 2 eps a week again we could just about get one

[@Grimlock7]

@@charleyarcher8893 do u mean midway production of S10 or airing? coz it was confirmed by BBC that doctor who wont be back on tv until 2020 at the earliest

[@laracameron9876]

@@Grimlock7 Series 10 came out in 2017

[@ExplodingJellyfish]

I love how unapologetically American the Blind Wave team is when it is brought into question.

[@anthonyellis987]

Nicholas Courtney (The Brigadier) is the companion to work opposite the most Doctors (Patrick Troughton, Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison and Sylvester McCoy in the series and the Colin Baker and Paul McGann in a Big Finish audio) and also appeared in The Daleks' Master Plan with William Hartnell as Bret Vyon. He died a month before Elisabeth Sladen in 2011 which was shortly before this series was broadcast.

[@Lenny-ue8hk]

8:06 Calvin: "I knew there couldn't just be this technology that helps everything" *cough* sonic screwdriver *cough*

[@CrankyGrandma]

He always was a robot....that was the fixed point. In the fixed point she shot the Doctor suit with the doctor in it. That still happened...that is always what happened. The silence assumed he died. The Silence made the fixed point out of the still point, and the fixed point still happened. Break a fixed point and weird stuff happens (as in Father’s Day with Rose and Nine). The fixed point that broke was her gun didn’t shoot a real shot.

[@Fanatic_Foremem]

I actually assumed the fixed point was just what was perceived to have happened and either the Doctor or a convincing fake doctor needed to be shot in that moment.

[@CrankyGrandma]

NekoVira I think what happened, always happened. It was always a fake doctor at the lake who got shot...We viewers, and Amy, Rory, and river thought it was the real doctor

[@rhysfrechette7739]

It's all still waiting for him. The Fields of Trenzalore. The Fall of the 11th and the question.

[@StupidWeb]

The look on Calvin's face when he found out that the Brigadier died made me tear up

[@johnking5174]

It seems Calvin knows more about the classic Dr Who period than the rest of the guys, is that right?

[@StupidWeb]

@@johnking5174 yeah, he watched a lot of Tom Baker and a few other doctors when he was younger

[@toonguy7739]

Well this won't make me cry. I know what happens to the Brig. *CALVIN'S REACTION* OH GOD WHY *SOBS*

[@emilyhadley9089]

I remember when this aired and when they brought up the 'oldest question' I said out loud to all my family, 'Tea or Coffee?'

[@raalmn1180]

I have done the math and at the current rate, blind wave will be caught up on April 8th 2020. That should be in time for season 12

[@maxeyre2024]

Raalm N They might do some mini episodes tho

[@raalmn1180]

@@maxeyre2024 if you mean the little 5 minute shorts then they usually release them alongside the episode

[@Jim_The_Fish]

Raalm N Close, but they started Series 12 early this year. They won’t be caught up until at least July or August.

[@Hussain-tv6rs]

good maths

[@catxborsuq1]

Aww, why did you ommit the first time he says "Doctor Who?" in that end bit? I remember having the chills in that precise moment...

[@michaelthomas5249]

River does have a vortex manipulator, she got it off the blue guy at the end of season five, he took it off a time agent.

[@coladict]

The reason the Doctor answered "a woman" to Churchill is because he asked to explain it "in terms [he] can understand".

[@Wipeout325]

coladict why is he in square brackets?

[@sophiefilo16]

Wipeout325Because the original quote, spoken by Chruchill, was "in terms I can understand". When you change a quote (often to make it match your point or two reiterate the subject), you put the part you changed in brackets to indicate such a change...

[@thejellyfisha]

I think changing a fixed point in time is pretty easy. As long as you know what the event is, you can just make the decision. It's just a mad thing to do because time breaks. River just decided to. Sometimes time fights back (Waters of Mars, Adelaide kills herself), but the Doctor there simply made the decision to change things.. This fixed point was always the Teselecta getting shot, just no-one else knew

[@anonymes2884]

It can be done but not without breaking the universe. Since most of us feel like we _need_ the universe in order to, y'know, do our washing, store our stuff, have adventures in space and time etc. that counts as not being able to do it ;).

[@carealoo744]

I can't wait, for them to get caught up, and say: 'Well, that was a lot of: 'Doctor Who!' But, it wasn't so bad! Now, let's see what all that: 'Classic Doctor Who,' is all about!'

[@carealoo744]

@@komierror5129 Yeah, as time went on I lost more and more faith in these guys. Coincidently, I actually stopped watching their videos just before the Name of the Doctor. It might seem dumb to stop watching them before they even tackle the 50th Anniversary, but while I knew that they would do some stuff to lead up to it I'd like some reactors, they quickly hit me about after that, they were just going to follow the main episode list and nothing else.

[@charleslee8313]

Your discussions of fixed points/still points in time had me grinning from ear to ear. A talk about theoretical physics, regarding a sci-fi show -- this was glorious. The Brigadier was from the 3rd, 4th, and 5th (especially the 4th)

[@npe9483]

Never understood why so many people dislike this finale. Its fun, full of ideas, emotional and doesn't involve corny world takeover plots. I think it is a thoroughly entertaining finish to a very good season of Doctor Who.

[@connorwood9211]

Too many loose ends The wedding itself felt force The Doctor faking his death really cheapens his reaction and decision to Brigadiers' Him faking his death was pointless as next episode he returns to Amy, everything returns to normal making the whole season arc feel cheap and a waste of time.

[@TheMorlun]

It doesn't involve corny world takeover. Instead it has a corny 'love story' with River, a disappointing ending to Silence, ideas that are going nowhere. It is Moffat officially lifting his arms in the air and going 'Fuck, I don't know anymore.'

[@LiveHedgehog]

@TreatoDogra I think people mistake a complicated plot for a complex one. Moffat's plots are usually complicated, but aren't complex. Considering how much the ratings tanked during Moffat's era, I think it's better to write for "noobs" than pseudo-intellectuals.

[@shadowphoenix1696]

I don't think most people had a problem with the episode as a whole but just that a lot of people didn't fully understand how the Doctor survived a fix point and to be fair it not a easy ending to follow, you really have to pay attention and think about it. you know a show that treats it audience like there smart can sometimes get a little overcomplicated for the casual viewer who just wants to sit and enjoy without having to think too hard on any point in the show. I also like this finale.

[@jamesg6660]

The main problem with Moffat's plots is that they are not suitable for a show like Doctor Who, which has always been primarily focused on being a Saturday night sci-fi romp for families. Unless you're sitting down every single week and intensely concentrating, you're gonna be shit outta luck. It began appealing more to the hardcore fanbase that had begun to spring up around that time. That's why the ratings tanked. I know that personally, my family stopped watching because it was no longer suited for the "vaguely concentrating on a lazy weekend around the TV" situation. Which, no matter what you have to say, has always been Doctor Who's strongest audience, and is what the show has primarily focused on targeting until Moffart came along. Basically, as has been said. Moffart panders to pseudo-intellectuals. The show has always survived by playing off of the fact that that _isn't_ the type of show Doctor Who is.

[@icantthinkofagoodusername4575]

This episode is full of Foreshadowings for The Series 7 finale and Matt Smiths final episode

[@ne0nblaze265]

I don't know if the Blind Wave crew know which episode is Matt's final one, so you might've actually just put in a spoiler.

[@lewanbroski504]

Spoilers don't really matter I assume Aaron is the only one reading the comments

[@ne0nblaze265]

@@lewanbroski504 eh, Eric said something referencing the comments, so he way read them too.

[@tommyrandall3489]

Yo you should delete this

[@essay383]

since matts first episode they've been for-shadowing his final episode lol

[@samfrisby6135]

Erik: “He’s not the oldest Time Lord, right?” Chris Chibnall: “Hmmmmmmmm, interesting...”

[@peggin169]

The fixed point was River shooting the Doctor and being sent to prison for killing him. All of which did happen. The only thing that changed was that the Doctor didn't actually die as was widely believed... assuming it changed. Maybe that's always what happened.

[@ojwh1933]

"He kisses so [well] it turns into an episode of '24'" ... Love it.

[@Jadeleath]

I loved all of y'all's reactions to this episode. This was a great way to start the New Year! Thank you guys!

[@LODintheshadows]

Don't care about next Christmas episode, but episode after that if gona be a big one for me

[@sophiefilo16]

I like to pretend the next Christmas episode doesn't exist. I actually thought we were getting 7x1 next week until Aaron said otherwise...

[@ne0nblaze265]

Isn't that the one where the only redeeming factor was that moment with Amy and The Doctor?

[@BlueSparxLPs]

Series 7 will be a pretty big one for me, because of Clara. She was the first companion I was ever exposed to when I learned that Doctor Who was a thing, and she's been my favorite since then.

[@ne0nblaze265]

@@BlueSparxLPs She isn't my favorite, but i do love her character. I don't dislike her nearly as much as a lot of others to.

[@Fanatic_Foremem]

I really liked the next Christmas episode, it's one of the few episodes where 11 gets to be in his element.

[@daveofyorkshire301]

Brigadier Leftbrigde Stewart ran UNIT throughout the original series, it's his daughter who runs UNIT in the new series.

[@xRiizo]

As someone who has saw all Doctor Who, this is brilliant to watch along with and see people getting to enjoy it for the firs time!

[@tuuli4002]

River does time travel, because she has a vortex manipulator. And doctor use it in big bang 2

[@Cornberry]

I can’t believe a certain someone is going to show up for the first time, in just a couple weeks!

[@StormageddonTMS]

rycbar123

[@mauricioramirez8817]

Soufle?

[@DextroDNAOfficial]

The worst character in Doctor Who history?

[@indianwarlord6935]

@TreatoDogra truth

[@cinematicwallflower2237]

@@DextroDNAOfficial do you remember the monster in Love and Monsters because goddamn

[@surelychoo]

You should also watch First Night and Last Night extras!

[@StormageddonTMS]

HOW DARE YOU FORGET MY TITLE, I AM STORMAGEDDON THE DARK LORD OF ALL! jk love you guys

[@Velociraptour]

You grew up into a lion? Tumblr said you turned into a hiddleston!

[@jeckjeck3119]

@@Velociraptour ''...''

[@ericmishima]

I was shouting it at my TV! All in good fun of course. Hail Stormageddon!

[@hiccuphufflepuff176]

I thought you preferred Alfie now. Did you and your dad have a falling out?

[@brinmoody]

Fun fact, River's Vortex Manipulator, which we saw her get in the first part of the season 5 finally from Dorian, is actually the same one Jack had, supposedly. I've also heard the squareness gun she had in the Library back with Tennant was also once Jack's. River is my all time favourite character. Alex played her so well, and I loved this season so much, partially because of that. I can't wait for you to see what else they do with her, cause there are some great moments still to come. Not telling though, spoilers, of course!

[@brinmoody]

Oh and Brigadier was also with the third Doctor who got stuck on Earth, and also appeared with four and five. Not sure about after that, how often, if at all, he appeared. But I know he was predominantly with Three cause Three got stuck on Earth and it was a UNIT heavy run with Three.

[@mcubxrnes6715]

Can't wait for you guys to get started on season 7

[@cinnamonbreeze5618]

haha when amy's "reveal" happened they went "oh noo" then immediate cut to "yayy'

[@RatchildUK]

It's nearly Clara time.

[@maxdennis2236]

I love Calvin's joke the 'fall' of silence lol

[@maxwenke1193]

unpopular opinion: s7 was actually one of my favourite seasons

[@britishninja]

The reaction to the USA capturing the pyramids was priceless.

[@taimurmuggo1634]

I don’t entirely get the hate for this finale .. it solves the main issue of the season which is The Doctor’s Death in a satisfactory way imo while leaving some questions for the future . A solid finale to one of my favorite seasons of Doctor Who !!.

[@jtrout5]

How this works was that in episode 1, the doctor was inside the Tesselecta controlling it. He walked to where river would shoot it. She drained the weapon power supply. This crazy time thing happened. Those events play out as in episode 13 and river realizes she isn't killing the doctor, agrees to shoot and the rest continues. It isn't seen in episode 1 by the doctor's friends because they see the continuous time stream as they are merely spectators to the situation and not participants. The amy and river and Rory in the 'aborted timeline' that actually happened all along are the ones from after everything that happened, as Amy remembers the death and the stuff from this timeline as it happened, while its happening without having happened. The doctor escapes the Tesselecta while it's burning and ties up some loose ends, then continuing on his journey.

[@Mermiam]

The reason they needed river to kill the doctor was because of her being a child of the tardis, making her timeline a blank canvas, not to mention a half timelord badass. Allowing the silence to set up this fixed point where the doctor "dies". So even though she had already been programmed to kill the doctor at this exact point, in this exact way, when amy shot young river in the spacesuit this caused a change in course but not in destination. Later allowing newly regenerated river to see the doctor as a good man and the doctor to discover the time, date, location and cause of his death. Rivers attempt to spare him broke time because she had already watched him die and burned his body, so preventing that caused a paradox, resulting in time collapsing in on itself. But with the doctor's plan the event still happens, the astronaut shoots the "doctor", the companions witness it and they burn the body. Fixed points often don't care about how or why, just what and when. Though i suppose the simplest answer would just be, "Timey Wimey"

[@dessindenfer1253]

but didn't they burn the body ? what happened to everyone inside the robot ? and how come we saw him almost regenerating after being shot ?

[@coladict]

Props to Lono for the quote in the outro!

[@firefly24601]

This episode packed A LOT into it. I keep wondering if it shouldn't have been a two-parter.

[@valathor95]

Definitely watch the nights mini episodes!

[@wolfpack_104]

This was a fun finale. I loved how creative they got with the idea of "what would happen if time broke?". Granted the payoff for what was setup here was, in my opinion, anti-climactic and I wish they'd finished "The Question" arc berore Amy and Rory left the show. Still, standing on it's own merits, it was a fun time and I loved how simple yet unexpected the solution was.

[@Scribbles69]

Well this is where I last watched doctor who so now you guys are ahead of me so we will see what violent delights come

[@Chemeleon15]

14:18 that's not the Doctor's real body!!!!!! When they touched, it was river and the Tesselecta

[@icantthinkofagoodusername4575]

Amy is thinking “oh no I tried to get it on with him a year ago”

[@michaelandrews117]

Genuinely guessed the Tessalecta twist as soon as it was introduced earlier this season, so obvious was that particular development.

[@Ideas-xv7lb]

This episode gives me chills every time

[@traveler07]

닥터후 제일 좋아하는 에피소드 😭 ❤ 맷스미스&리버송 나오는건 다 재밌고 좋아요.. 오랜만에 닥터후 다시보고 있어요. 아직까지도 리버송 나왔던 에피들은 제게 명작이나 다름없네요 ❤

[@VenoRPG]

I'll never understand why people didn't like this, it was one of my favorite episodes. It answered so many questions and showed a ton of very cool concepts. The train scene and pyramids and changes in time were incredible.

[@aureliaansah1462]

It's brilliant, isn't it! Watching this video & reading the comments made me understand the fixed point plot etc. in a more complete way. I still don't get how River stopped herself from killing him the second time, though. And if the Doctor was the Teselecta all along, why weren't the little people inside burnt along with the body in that Viking funeral, episode 1?

[@galarstar052]

@@aureliaansah1462 because it's a future robot, it's flame resistant.

[@nerdfightercommenter6969]

The time stopping stuff was seriously genius but it didn’t wrap up the millions of plot threads that they tried to tackle in one season. It’s good as an episode but not a season wrap up

[@eva44940]

you need to watch the minisodes "the first night & the last night"! to fill in some more River blanks

[@Kasino80]

Great episode deflated by a pointless tag on cliffhanger.

[@valathor95]

I love every episode and mini episode with River in it.

[@nghnnn2991]

my brain hurts and also this is the exact content I'm looking for

[@SandSlash242]

Maaaan I can't wait for them to react to the 50th anniversary episode

[@cassandranightshade696]

I understood that Time agent was jack for some reason and he was beheaded by the monks and he grew his head back but the head was alive on it's own too and that one became the face of boe - that's how both jack and the face of boe can exist at the same time

[@gilanes]

The ending of the next one is such a beautiful moment

[@sarahcoleman9912]

At some point the Dr really does tell River his name because she whispers it is 10’s ear in Silence in the Library episodes.

[@JH-ik1gj]

There are probably future doctor events that take place in the past, due to time travel, and so it was always going to work out this way ultimately. Imagine a roller-coaster, or sonic, going through a spiral before continuing forward, in a way. So the universes paradox for linear time is like a dance going through its complete play-through in order to keep going forward. So it's not that they created them, but that the universe had to find a needle to thread in order to keep its own continuity, from its own linear perspective. Imo.

[@kofiafram2911]

WE.NEED.THE.BEST.OF. BLINDWAVE.2018 VIDEO! 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@Krosskaos]

By creating a fixed point, you create an infinite number of alternate timelines that ultimately destroy themselves. The timeline where River took control and did not kill the Doctor was one of those timelines, along with all the other possible timelines, and therefore the only timeline left afterwards is the one where the Doctor is seemingly killed. That is how you know it is a fixed point in time.

[@Triskaan]

I love how no matter the show, some Black Sails reference will eventually pop up in the conversation (Tom "Billy Bones" Hopper here)... yeah, that show has the same everlasting impact on me. I miss Black Sails. :)

[@jfrance649]

Series 6 was a decent series IMO. For me the episodes ranged from amazing to good. So not a bad series IMO. The finale isn't Moffat's best but I enjoyed it and was happy with the answers to the arcs.

[@evertime123]

This episode is brought to you by wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.

[@zvimur]

10:55, my money on Name Reveal time is Let's Kill Hitler ep. Doctor believed he was about to die.

[@homiedclown]

That's my theory as well. In Forest of the Dead 10 says there's only one reason he would ever tell anyone his name, only one time he could. I used to think it would be for a wedding proposal, but now I think it's in the event of his permanent death. In Lets Kill Hitler he thought he was dying for good, but he also had to try and protect her timeline because he knew that she knows his name in her future. Even in the face of his permanent death his last act was to help her.

[@tuuli4002]

If River couldn't time travel with out the Doctor, then how could she get to Utah in second time. So I believe that she can time travel.

[@theSpartan187]

Can't wait for them to react to sea 7 part 2

[@Dularr]

The fix point in time was the robot Doctor getting shot. River was just preventing that fixed point in time to happen, until she understood the Doctor had swapped bodies with the robot Doctor. Remember, the show did establish the robot could replace people during fixed points in time.

[@ytmndman]

The Time Lords created the Web of Time which defines what the fixed points are. Without the around, it's all topsy-turvy.

[@acapellagirl24]

The fixed point is the action of shooting the Doctor. People took that to mean the Doctor died, and that's why it all went fucked when she shot the ground instead.

[@rudrasingh6354]

Wibbly wobbly timey whimey

[@9Kualalumpur]

I always thought that the "oldest question" thing was a reference to the fact that, in the show, the title IS the first thing that ever happened

[@MetalPharoah]

2nd week of February will be The Angels Take Manhattan.

[@cal1an83]

Before season 7 episode 1 you need to do pond life ??? !!! 😄😄😄😄

[@jacobhogan3208]

why the question marks?

[@CabbageDynamite_Lucy]

So confusing, yet so interesting. I really like this finale, it's not the best or the worst, but I like it. The badass-ness of Amy and Rory throughout this episode also makes me very happy. They are very song characters at this point, which is why I hate what they do to them next season, I feel it takes away from where they were, and what they've done. Still excited for my third favourite Companion to come next season! :D

[@npe9483]

I agree with you. Its no perfect and not every idea Moffat throws into the story works, but its throughly entertaining nevertheless. I think if Season 7 had been stronger people would have liked the Season 6 finale more.

[@CabbageDynamite_Lucy]

@@npe9483 Yes, I really didn't get why so many people hated Series 7 I though it was good, not the best but it was good. But there are some series that I can't stand in Capaldi's era so in a way I understand and it's all to do with personal preference.

[@npe9483]

@LucyHicks The problem I had with season 7 was it didnt continue with this storyline as closely as I wanted it to. Rather than exploring Trenzalore, the Silence and River Song it went off on uninteresting tangents. I like Clara, but found the Impossible Girl hook much less interesting than the Girl Who Waited. The show gave Amy and Rory a powerful send off and Matt Smith’s Doctor a rousing finale but I wish they didnt cram all the resolutions into his last three episodes.

[@npe9483]

@LucyHicks I also agree Season 7 isnt the weakest. I thought Season 1 was pretty mediocre, and I didnt like Capaldi’s first season at all. I also think the opening halves of Season 3 and 4 are terrible, and people would remember those years less fondly if they didnt have such good back halves.

[@ericmishima]

I am liking it more the more I watch it. I understood more of it this time.

[@ElleKayGee]

A fixed point, once created, affects everything throughout time. There can be no fixed point until the action initially happens. Once it happens it can’t be undone without drastic consequences.

[@solarconker]

I need more of these

[@Fanatic_Foremem]

I love how over the top you all reacted to the US flag on the pyramids. That was very silly.

[@Richard_Ashton]

The Doctor's name was published in the Doctor Who comic in the 1970s. You can't pronounce it, though. Spoilers! δ³Σx². In the story 'The Happiness Patrol' his nickname is confirmed as 'Theta Sigma'.

[@salenebrom6476]

The robot is what it becomes Think image of an angel Becomes an angel but the original is still there

[@davis.fourohfour]

Eric, think of it like this: the fixed point did not exist until it was created, then it ALWAYS existed. It's like the gods and other critters in the Gaimanverse: they didn't exist since time's beginning until people dreamed of them. Then the gods always existed since the beginning of time. Wibbley-wobbley timey-wimey. From the outside of the framework, it makes sense. But inside the framework, it's best not to think of it. And you can't exist outside the framework.

[@banealexander7973]

I’m pretty sure River learned the Doctors name when she learned to read Gallifreyan. Maybe she found the crib during one of their nights together and was able to translate it

[@Velociraptour]

The Fat, The Bald and The Blue..........when are you guys reacting to that show?