Doctor Who’s unforgiving Boobies 😂 r/MenWritingWomen

[@PokhrajRoy.]

My favourite trope from Men Writing Women is how short hair and trauma are the only tools to fight life with.

[@thetranarchist710]

Older movie, but perfect example... "The Legend of Billie Jean"

[@IndrasChildDeepAsleep]

@@thetranarchist710 Tasha Yar from Star Trek The Next Generation

[@kezia8027]

hey, don't forget dying a streak of your hair a non natural colour like bright red or blue!

[@kezia8027]

@@IndrasChildDeepAsleep so disappointing x_x she basically isn't a character outside of the "R-gangs" or her trauma about it... Like literally EVERYTHING is somehow tied to her being R*ed. Even the episode we find out about her sister is still just about escaping sexual violence x.x

[@rage_of_aquarius]

That has been my personal experience, but I don't see it often.

[@BassMisteress101]

“Not very feminine now, is it, DAVID” is going to be stuck in my head

[@aeryngoodspeed]

men writing women will always give me hope about my own writing. idk how others will take my writing but surely I'll never end up in THIS sub LOL

[@maril2048]

I am sure your writing is good, keep going! Honestly I hate a lot of female characters written by male writers, they are so unrealistic...but I am very proud of one of my friends (male) for writing a book with a female main character (not a woman, a female ogre) she is very well written and realistic 😊

[@phoenixyfriend]

Oh my gosh the second you asked "is this setting the standard?" I squeed because yes. Yes that is the standard. They are really That Bad and I'm amused to see you encounter it for the first time

[@hannahk1306]

Men Writing Women seems to be at least 90% weird descriptions of breasts. Often, there seems to be a very brief description of the rest of the character's body or personality, followed by several sentences describing her breasts in the strangest way possible...

[@WelcomeApathy]

Often by anthropomorphizing them! 😂

[@michellecoleman5577]

This might be my favorite topic. It doesn't even have to be about the woman, 95% of the time it's just bad writing all around. And funny.

[@MarcusH]

Re the Having most of my eggs line: I'm pretty sure she's just trying to say that she's still very young. Rather than being middle aged when at that school, she's likely there as early as possible, so saying most of the eggs are still present just indicates she either hasn't had a great many menstruations OR she's been pregnant a LOT and stopped the period that way. Either way, ew.

[@forestgrump4723]

I mean she also has “plausible deniability in regards to purity” so…. Maybe she’s had a lot of abortions? Lol

[@Link_the_enby8087]

Happy pride month everyone!🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

[@Rose_Haw]

❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

[@rainbowtropolis]

🌈🏳‍🌈

[@jennifers5560]

Happy Pride!

[@faenene]

Yay! ^^ 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ I went to my first pride festival this month and it was lovely

[@jennifers5560]

@@faenene nice!

[@marvelhead17]

I was reading a Detective Rebus novel a few years back, and there was a full on s*x scene but it was written so badly I hadn't even realised it was happening, paged back and had to reread it to confirm 😂

[@Pink_Sinthetic]

When the scene is so bad your brain disassociates from it.

[@mandyb2245]

Wow, these descriptions make me feel better about my own writing.

[@KiboSanti]

If you need a cringe cackle, I HIGHLY recommend the (Extremely Adult! NSFW!) books "Belinda Blinked" by author Rocky Flintstone. You will never cringe at your own work ever again 😂

[@animeamm]

Did not expect a Gudetama (name of the little animated egg) mention in this video!

[@KiboSanti]

I'm not surprised Shaaba likes him, I'm more surprised that this is how I find out there's a movie on Netflix now...

[@faenene]

We love Gudetama in this house 🍳

[@watsername]

🥚🍳

[@emmcod]

9:36 When you ended the Doctor Who one with the fact that Gareth Roberts wrote that book, I was like Of course it was the worst person to have ever written for post-2005 DW... Such a transphobe and bigot

[@bacul165]

Yup who else...

[@Pazuzu33]

Yeah, immediate reaction when she said who wrote it was "Ah, that makes sense!"

[@CoreenMontagna]

17:06 my guess is that someone over 50 or so wrote this and was thinking about the old school polio vaccination scars that people born before like somewhere in the seventies got

[@R.senals_Arsenal]

Gareth Roberts. No one is surprised. I've read that book too, and I don't remember that. I was probably reading too fast to register it, but then, I'm a man. I guess unforgiving to her aching back? IDK.

[@DeeCross]

Maybe she's actually very buff too and as a result her entire chest is intimidating.

[@noahbleumansell9036]

0:09 Shaaba its so kind of you to plug a smaller creator like Jammidoger

[@yugenknows740]

Her husband with over a million subscribers? 😂 (yes, I get you were probably joking.) 😂

[@wayfaringspacepoet]

@6:34 it's actually not a fictional piece, but rather a personal essay and author's retrospective that was published by the sensationalist website The Cut apparently her parents are wealthy condervative Catholic Miami Cubans and her mother in particular is notorious for having written an essay where she made a case for, I quote, "the goodness of the gift that is a woman’s beauty" because of this essay having been published she had to scrub the About Us page on her website and deal with media platforms wanting a statement from her about the essay

[@someonewithazeldaprofilephoto]

Hmmm.. Tbh a woman talking about the "goodness" of womens bodies sounds kinda gay.. :0

[@michellecoleman5577]

"but mama Shaaba! It's for all the future writers learning what to NEVER do.

[@Kayari]

So my mom was a kid when the polio vaccine first came out and she has a small mark on her arm from it and I guess that was a pretty common thing with the early vaccinations so maybe that's what the author was referring to, but the mark itself is smaller than a dime so there's still no way that's remotely plausible Also on a bit of an unrelated note I had a fantastic time seeing you, Jamie & Mercury in Milwaukee hope the rest of your your tour went well!

[@TheDopekitty]

This. My ex has a polio vaccination mark and dime size is pretty close

[@hannahk1306]

Yeah, the author is obviously middle aged at the youngest from that description. I think the smallpox vaccination also left a scar, but modern vaccinations don't typically leave any permanent mark. I think Shaaba was thinking of the tiny red dot you sometimes get with modern jabs 😆

[@thepresence365]

Ooh. Interesting. I was born in the Caribbean in the mid 80s and I have a tiny (not nearly dime-sized) vaccination scar. Never knew what it was for.

[@Rose_Haw]

15:47 Snow White has been a character for quite some time. Men have liked a tuberculosis missis for a while now.

[@helenmohammed2518]

I’m watched this is bed and my husband is asleep, I had to keep covering my mouth to stifle the laughter; that writing was abysmal but your reactions were hilarious 😂😂😂

[@aShadeBolder]

"I like oranges and I like freedom!" - me too, Shaba, me too. I really enjoy the "minimalist pyjamas" and hope to sleep in them for many years.

[@vibeslime]

I used to be a woman and it was nothing like this

[@madanotap6492]

Okay. THAT title got my attention

[@ShadowAnimeation]

Pretty sure she's using "most of my eggs" as a "I'm super young still" sort of statement. Which is kinda uncomfortable because she then proceeds to say older men want that, so like implying they want a woman as young as possible... which just leads to some very bad situations if you keep going down that rabbit whole O~O And now I've made myself feel nauseous OOF

[@Hedwig_3000]

The way you just could not read any further and stopped the video was so funny to me, 10/10 did laugh

[@PierceSimms]

When writing romance novels, and for many other reasons, many writers will use pen names to publish under, and I think I have good reason to believe alot of romance written like this (subject of the subreddit) are possibly penned by a cis man using a feminine pen name.

[@joanfregapane8683]

This was a disturbing yet hysterically funny episode. Love your commentary, Shaaba!

[@sydneywright6545]

I think “unforgiving breasts” actually kinda works. Unforgiving by definition can also mean harsh conditions. For example, the unforgiving wind blew their house down. What I pictured when I read the text was a woman with breasts so huge that she seriously needed a breast reduction because her breasts were unforgiving in the sense of causing her to experience the harsh condition of chronic back pain.

[@anitaholmes8201]

The writer with most of her eggs wrote this in an opinion piece in which she advocated for young women marrying rich older men. That way, a lot of time is saved in not having to DIY one's way to becoming established in a profession and in life. She did, although her husband is only 10 years older than she is. YMMV, obviously. Social media has not smiled upon this author.

[@Suppagappa]

Want more! The horrified reactions are what’s so enjoyable 😊

[@minashepard1255]

Lol me as an aspiring fantasy novelist will take this as a lesson on how not to write lol. This subreddit is so cringe. My ex-best friend tried getting me to write this way with my love scenes. Yeah there is a reason why we're not friends ... this is one of them. Btw I love how you said jugjitsu Shaaba.

[@lordknightalex]

the little egg with the butt is a sanrio character called gudetama, there is merch of it and some cute animated shorts on youtube

[@blackmoonroze9336]

I can honestly say, you were more fun to watch than Jamie doing this... I love him too, but your reactions are *chef's kiss*

[@autrnaut]

Breast boxing literally has an anime 🙈 it’s called Keijo!!!!!!!!

[@DylanRaccoonboy]

I get that butts are comfortable to rest your head on, I still wouldn't describe them as a memory foam pillow xd

[@marieugorek5917]

If you want a little payback on the men-watching-women-sleep thing, watch Babylon 5. The Minbari have a tradition where a women who is interested in a man will watch him sleep for three nights, so she can see his "true self" and know whether she really wants to continue deepening the relationship. That, frankly, always felt wholesome to me... unlike men just randomly watching women sleep without any apparent reason.

[@claritybadb]

"I can.... but THEY can't. " 😂😂😂😂

[@Guro-Blue-kun]

The other day when I was on my balcony, a neighbour was talking loudly on the phone which was on speakers, about some guy they both tried to date recently. They both said he told them: "I'm not willing to compromise and date women with low quality flopping boobs anymore. If they go on the sides when you lay down, you're disgusting" I was standing there, just shocked lol But good thing they both laugh saying stuff like WeLl SoRRy I'm aFfECtEd bY gRAviTy Haha Still...disturbing those people exist for real... (Also, if you're my neighbour and recognize this event....please don't dox me xD)

[@Vahlee-A]

Happy Pride Month! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🎉 Today my 28th birthday. 😢🎉 I love you Shaaba! 😊🎉 I wear some sparkles today. ✨️🎉 I like them better than regular makeup. 🙂🎉

[@silverghostcat1924]

Happy Birthday 🎉🥳. Sparkles are the best 🎇💖

[@momamiandkiddokelsi9027]

Happy birthday!! 🎉 🏳️‍🌈

[@missnaomi613]

I hope you had a happy, sparkly birthday! ✨🎉🎂

[@asmolgaytree]

Having Saaba dying of (uncomfortable & confused) laughter at these makes em easier to get through

[@hannahparker7006]

This video was hilarious and exactly what I needed today 😂

[@Silentgrace11]

Regarding the mention of the “vaccination marks”, there are some vaccine variants that will leave a scar due to the immune reaction, or at least used to in their earlier construction. The most common vaccine with this effect I know of off the top of my head is smallpox. As for the comparison to nipple sizes….that is a severely variable size range is all I can say lolol

[@HanShaw-hc2kc]

My TB vaccination scar is about 5mm across, which isn't ridiculously small for nipples, it's just a bizarre choice of comparison. Assuming he means literally just the nipples and the areola are bigger. 5mm areola would be tiny

[@Pink_Sinthetic]

Watching Shaaba discover the atrocity of this writing is amazing. Also, definitely noticed you got to one of the creepy ass underaged ones at the end there. They are FAR too common. And it is doing me a concern. I would say that these sorts of things remind me of what I should never write, but I do not need a reminder to know that this stuff is beyond ludicrous.

[@zoekrishel6677]

That is Gudetama, the laziest egg in Japan! I love him, he sleeps a lot- his bed is made out egg white and his blanket is bacon.

[@korp_skog]

No but you need to do this subreddit more. There are some truly abysmal examples of writing that you just have to laugh at because otherwise it makes you lose all faith in humanity.

[@WelcomeApathy]

This was hilarious! Your reactions were so good. I think my favorite example of men writing women was the guy who said women have a maze inside them that makes it take longer than men for their pee to come out. That and the classic mix of basically sentient breasts and ovaries.

[@AnnekeOosterink]

I'm still waiting on the book without any physical descriptors for women. Or limited to two traits max, and none of them can be a sexualised body part, or use food in the description. Neutral descriptions only. Male characters get that practically always. I've read a great fanfic in which the main character had a great many traits and habits, she was smart, compassionate, determined, willing to confront literal god for abusing angels, a Buddhist, inching into alcoholism and then pulling back in time, unable to care for plants, a good therapist, brave, kind, and I have no idea what she looked like, because she was never described in any way. She was the point of view character, and never once did she get naked to glance in a mirror to describe how perky her breasts were, or how long her legs, or how wide her hips. She thought about a lot of things, including how she looked, but she described things that were relevant, like how unkempt she looked during a stressful time, not how sexy she was.

[@princessofhell4639]

This is what I hope my writing will be like

[@hannahnohlgren989]

I am always reminded of men role-playing women in games. 😅 Same vibe. Always hourglass body, wide hips, thick thighs, big boobs and long fabulous hair. Walking sexily. 😂😂 Always an experience to read that. 🎉 Happy pride month 🏳️‍🌈

[@unapologeticallylizzy]

I recently did an Italian exam which mentioned Piero Chiara so the first one was likely translated from Italian. I'm not sure if the person to blame for that text would be the author or the translator but both of them are assuredly men.

[@nathryl03]

Happy Pride Everyone ❤🧡💛💚💙💜This is your regular reminder that you're all awesome, beautiful and valid little beans, just the way you are ❤🧡💛💚💙💜Love you all ❤🧡💛💚💙💜

[@missnaomi613]

Back at you, lovely person!

[@nathryl03]

@@missnaomi613 💜

[@ecologist18]

17:20 I think they are referring to a smallpox vaccination scar, which in my experience is a little smaller than a dime.

[@Below.average.version]

Thongs in Australia are called "flip flops" in the UK. So odd hearing it in a sexy way, I know what I'm supposed to be picturing but I'm thinking of a pair of shoes instead

[@princessofhell4639]

Replying in hopes more people see this comment because that is so funny

[@gracem1231]

This video was hilarious, please do more

[@omikun17]

I want to see you do more of these just for your reactions to this stuff. Those weren't even that bad. There are a lot worse things in that thread that men compare women's breasts to.

[@dannymoneywell]

"A tea cup size sentient Blancmange from planet Skyron of the Andromeda Galaxy"

[@silkandcottonhawaii]

I think I have the missing puzzle piece that makes “nipples as tiny as vacation marks” make sense. I’m not saying it’s good writing but it must be an old book because it’s referencing the Smallpox scars left on the upper arm that were administered in the 60’s and 70’s. My mother has one of these scars and it kinda does look like she has a tiny areola on her arm. 😅

[@missnaomi613]

14:29 Is... Is this an ad for mattresses? Those last 2 were creepy. I forgive you, Shaaba. 🙏🏳‍🌈🏳‍⚧🟦

[@kelzz094]

Baring with you! Glad you uploaded today!!! Jamie and you are the absolute best, happy pride month guys

[@lostinmymind8147]

The end had me cackling 😂

[@russelhundchen8000]

I love your videos they are always so wholsome thank you❤

[@vocalsunleashed]

9:08 I hope it's 2 decades and you weren't born with them 😂

[@cgirl294]

my breasts were unforgiving, so I got rid of them. (celebrating the 18 month anniversary of my top surgery today!)

[@Simpltn-vids]

16:36 I think this excerpt with Zoya is actually part of a book series written by Leigh Bardugo, a FEMALE author! It seems the problems of r/MenWritingWomen unfortunately don’t just apply to cishet male authors anymore🤦‍♂️

[@krmrivera83]

I laughed so hard that i spooked my dogs lol

[@ravensong7128]

lol😂 you’re like one of the only people I know this use the peach emoji as a peach 🍑

[@Mega6470]

Anyone who doesn’t know Sarah Milligan GO CHECK HER OUT NOW. She’s my favorite female comedian, so good, no fcks given 😂

[@jennifers5560]

These were hilarious, please do this again!

[@heyna1185]

Honestly unforgiving might not be the worst descriptor for enormous breasts. I like to think of it in the way extreme weather can be unforgiving. The enormous boobies don‘t care if you‘re dressed well, sitting, lying down, exercising or working, they will always be in the way, weigh you down and squash your inner organs. Not sure that‘s how it was meant in the book but that‘s how I choose to interpret it xD

[@sebastiankalstrom237]

oh I love this series I can't wait to watch the episode!! :D

[@claudiamcfie1265]

I needed the laughs this morning

[@barbarachesterton9615]

Big boobs in old who are associated with being evil, even for peri. Let’s not get carried away about it. There’s a reason, relative to the classic plot, as to why in new who theres a lot of boobs.

[@ShinTriAce]

Ah, yes, men who never interacted with women writing about them......

[@LunaTARDISFlyer]

say it with me: UNCONSCIOS PEOPLE DONT WANT TEA

[@Lord_frosted]

Dude you reading audiobooks 🔥

[@Soilfood365]

I would pay good money* to see Shaaba read through all the descriptions of the chief of the bog-burglars, and mother of one of the main characters in How to Train Your Dragon, the mighty warrior known as... Big Boobies Bertha. I feel like in coming up with the character, Cressida Cowell spent about a month reading posts on r/menwritingwomen and just decided to go for it. *I have no money, good or bad. But if I did, I would.

[@mrjr03]

This is not the same thing, but it immediately reminds me of it… Have you listened to the podcast “My Dad Wrote a Porno”? It’s so great lol

[@gaildahlas]

I feel like that's the best (and most fun) example of this kind of thing, honestly. So silly, so much fun, so many pomegranates.

[@mrjr03]

@@gaildahlas Pomegranates have forever been changed in my brain 😅

[@christinakyleloves]

Love you Shaaba!!🩷🩷🍑🍑 Excited for the new Video topic!!

[@TheDopekitty]

Unforgiving probably means hard, firm. Like falling onto an unforgiving surface and breaking a bone.

[@kiryanna]

I guess children's faces are usually round, which is similar to broad, but it does seem like the wrong adjective to use if that's what the writer is trying to describe

[@victorvilletess]

Vaccination mark - perhaps small pox, you are too young to have received this vaccination, but those of us over 50 have a small circular scar from this vaccination.

[@hawkeyescoffee6399]

That eggs line is an admission that the author is, in fact, not really a woman. And possibly has never met one...or a human in general, either: tis clearly one of the alien lizard folks wearing a 3D printed skinsuit.

[@n0b0dy--]

Wait... I thought we didn't start losing eggs till we got our periods?

[@BillSmithson-ir9fi]

It was a 2011 book I think

[@emppurepo]

Love this!!! 😂

[@cynhanrahan4012]

I like ruthless breasts. So much more proactive than unforgiving breasts. Vaccination marks - back in my childhood our smallpox vaccines was not one needle, it was a disk with a lot of pokie things that left a scar about the size of an adult finger print. Most people got them on the arm, but my mother insisted that mine be on my back so as not to ruin some form of beauty I may become in the far far future. We were like age 3 or 4 when we got them. Not an ugly scar, but definitely nothing like a nipple. This was absolute lunacy. Yep bad women's anatomy. If you want to get historic about sleeping women, you only need to look at old painting. Women sleeping naked in the woods was a big deal. So was 3 women wide awake and hanging out in the woods with their arms around each other. Not selfies, not snapshots, paintings. So they took a while to make. Me standing naked in the woods is because a spider crawled under my clothes or I need a really thorough coating of insect repellent.

[@christopherb501]

If you ever want the worst of it, look up Piers Anthony's nonsense.

[@annabrown3337]

Does the most eggs thing mean she's young?

[@dovestone_]

15:18 why does this pronunciation sound so indie lmao

[@snake-qm7jz]

Hi momma Shaaba!

[@anthonypecorara]

This feels like incel does writing.

[@Asongbook]

Look up smallpox vax marks. Still.duper small, though.

[@TheDopekitty]

Polio

[@meganmccarthy5444]

😂😂😊

[@TransGuyShane]

Ooh first/super early

[@SquirrelNutkins]

More to the point, us freckled folk do not tan well. Lobster anyone? 🦞 And trust me too that I do indeed have ice pale skin!