THE TRUTH ABOUT SELFLESS BY HYRAM

[@Doctorly]

We feel that our subscribers here on Doctorly represent the best of the online skincare community and we appreciate all of the discussion here on this video. Many of you bring up valid points in the comments in regards to sustainability, pricing, and the marketing of this brand in general. Everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion about the brand and Hyram. As consumers, you vote with your wallets and as educated consumers, you are powerful. As far as ingredients are concerned, the products will perform as they are expected to. Like we always say, be deliberate and choose products that you think will benefit you. If you have a routine that you love, no need to switch it up for the new product on the block - stick with what works for you!

[@65NART]

The best bit of advice ever. Unless you need to change stick with what you know. The old adage of “it ain’t broke don’t fix it” comes to mind. Thank you Sir.

[@elinaelina129]

Plzzzz help meeee 😓😓😓 i"m confuse between the ordinary azelaic acid suspension 10 or acide salicylique for sentitve skiiin ????

[@pappysprite]

Yes. So you would do the public justice by bringing up skincare lines that are safe, effective, and very affordable. As you both would know more than anyone that skincare line prices are out of control and unnecessary. There are no proven proprietary ingredients (outside of Retina A) that I am aware of that have proven to be anti aging for example. Why would anyone, for example, pay $500 for a jar of La Mer when we know it has not outperformed a basic moisturizer. There are so many of your viewers that are on a very tight $$$ budget and it is time to be real here and not buy into fancy lines, with fancy packaging, that really do nothing better than an $8 moisturizer you can get at a drugstore. FACT.

[@Doctorly]

@@pappysprite we’ve done whole videos on how la mer is overpriced and recommend products from affordable brands in all of our videos. $20-30 for a skincare product is not the cheapest option but it’s a far cry from la mer’s $500 moisturizer. A lot of our favorite products are in the $20-40 range

[@pappysprite]

@@Doctorly Yes. I used that as an extreme example. But even the $30-$40 range is extreme and I believe you deep down agree with that. They offer nothing better than much less expensive brands. Skincare shouldn’t cost more than $8-$10 per full size item (at least 4 to 6 ounces). I’m quite sure whatever product you bring up in a line that costs $30-$40, I could find an equally as effective product for 1/4 or 1/3 of that cost. I’ve spoken to several well respected dermatologists that feel it is criminal to spend that kind of money when you don’t have to. No offense, but we live in a world that continues to become more and more expensive. People should be saving their money or spending it on more important things. I’d love to see a channel like yours promote less expensive alternatives and identify common food ingredients found in a kitchen that can help with everyday common skin problems. If your goal of your channel is just to make money, then perhaps it doesn’t matter. We all know a lot of these KZbin stars make millions. A new trend should be made in skincare. Lines that actually are very affordable and effective.

[@carolinapillow3310]

Not gonna lie the first red flag I see is that it says it works for all skins... I’ve always found that to not be true in my experience. I feel like skincare isn’t a one size fits all. I have extremely dry skin and there’s just no way to me that someone with oily skin can use the same products I do...

[@nataliechaput9293]

i’ve seen comments from people with fungal acne saying many of the products have known irritants for fungal acne in them and they can’t use them. I feel like fungal acne is pretty common so he’s definitely excluding a large amount of consumers from that alone! not even to mention everyone else like you with dry skin too!

[@carolinapillow3310]

@@nataliechaput9293 yeah most of the products he said were better for oily skin. So if that’s the case how about not market it for all skin types... sounds like a typical marketing scam which is very disappointing considering how well respected hyram seems to be In the skin care community...

[@stephaniem5188]

I wish I could recall which video hyram said this in but he’s definitely said in the past to stay away from Products that are for “all skin types” bc it’s just not possible

[@carolinapillow3310]

@@stephaniem5188 he seems to contradict himself a lot if we’re being honest.... he’s been caught a few times doing this now that I think about it.

[@Braelynne713]

@@nataliechaput9293 it’s true I have fungal acne and I looked at the ingredients and I can’t have some so it’s tuff to find ingredients for all skins it’s mostly impossible!!! I feel like…

[@nageenaahmadzai339]

Doctorly, could you please enable the CC for me? I am Deaf and would love to watch your video. :)

[@iiLuvvEminem]

I wish I could help you out.

[@wynnk88]

Up uwu

[@69231]

same, it’d be nice for youtube to allow subscribers to participate in making cc or something that useful

[@beatrizfontes5645]

it would help those people that English is not its first language as well :)

[@christineszlobodnik7814]

it will pop up in next few hours hopefully. im deaf too!

[@bbsail]

Already some other dermatologist said. "If you want to be environmentally conscious don't create another source of waste". The products look good as Inkey list has been, but pricey

[@zeynep-9976]

I don't agree because the products brands come up with can depend on consumers and what they'll respond to. If the brand is successful enough to influence the rest of the industry and pushes them to also be more environmentally conscious, it is going to have a great positive impact. I guess we just need to wait and see.

[@lorimoore5589]

I don't think that's true because you won't continue use your old product if you buy a different Brand, your just going to replace it for the new one. Plus I hate this thing people do where they try an find ways people who are trying to do good things fall short. It's not an all or nothing thing. If Hyram had no say in his products being in plastic containers but will use part of profits to donate to causes them he is doing more than most of us do. At least he doing something to help an if he said no to this line then he wouldn't have the extra income to put towards causes he feels strongly about. I think we sometimes forget these people are not making a lot of the decisions we disagree with but if they try an do something to offset things they were not in control of that's good enough for me.

[@Momofukudoodoowindu]

@@MK-gs4tumaybe he means removing CO2 by means of less plastic, wherein the polymer is made from gasoline, that which CO2 is released in the factories... but thats a reach, considering its not common knowledge to the majority and I've arrived at that conclusion by pure conjecture.

[@ramonagrunder6780]

Yes!! That is what I was think so many times already.

[@TheQuintanaRoo]

@@zeynep-9976 this is the perfect response I think any rational person would want-a brand forcing others to do the same. A genuine spark. That would be great extraordinary. That being said, we do indeed have to wait and see, but this is complete and utter idealism, and bottom line, this is more waste. Recycling differs from area to area so in many cases hyram’s stuff will just be more waste. This is line is unnecessary, end of story. I can only pray your idealism holds true in some tiny way.

[@sadiem6758]

“I don’t talk to a lot of people so I don’t know how to say things in real life” I felt this 😂

[@amandaleggett]

I need that on a shirt 😂

[@sadiem6758]

@@amandaleggett same! Dr. Shah put this on some merch please.

[@chelsiterry804]

Same 🤣

[@Maria-006.]

🤣😂😭Same

[@klopl100]

Felt it to my soul! Read all the academic papers in the world, and when it's time to pronounce them during a zoom meeting, I look stupid lol Decided I'll start reading aloud and practice keywords. Plus I'm Jamaican, already have a barrier lol

[@measbeauty]

Here's my thing, instead of him donating from the profit he makes, he added the donation on to the price of the products, so it's us donating not him!

[@barbieblue3336]

Yes

[@gracez593]

My thoughts exactly!

[@michelletidler6773]

So you want to pay more for it? This guy is extremely wealthy thanks to his you tube channel. I certainly dont think I care to pay more for a donation as Im sure hes not hurting in $ side of things.

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner here!! Michelle, she is not saying that we should pay more... She is saying that we ARE paying more - the higher price - for the products so that Hyram gets HIS pay AND he gets to say that a donation is being made. He could have simply done the product, kept the prices similar to others from the brand, and donated any of his personal profit. The guy is a millionaire so doesn't need any more money. He's not a struggling youtuber. He's a sharp business man who knows EXACTLY what he is doing and how and why. And it's not for all of us. I can't stand the rich donating and getting credit for it. Bezos donates and people cheer... But he's donated to get tax breaks and he's donating money that should go to his workers pay and benefits... Let them donate it if they don't need it for living.

[@KrystenStrunck]

Just like most brands lol not surprised

[@elin_]

His whole brand rubs me the wrong way for some reason.. Dramatic promotion, not disclosing how many percent that goes to charity, many of the good ingredients are below phenoxyethanol etc.. I also heard that if a company donates to charity they will get a tax deduction.

[@orozcoaj69]

The promos are pretty cheesey 🤯😝

[@lyubo_stan]

He’s basically donating the profit to 2 organizations. You can go check them out for more info

[@richysarney44]

I wonder if Hyram was selfless enough to give a goodie bag of free product to that black african lady pumping the fuck out of that water pipe in the promo vids? Least she deserved for her cameo was some free overpriced skincare, in tiny unsustainable packaging with weak gimic formulations but it isn't even available in her country to buy. I guess at least Hyram aims to donate 10% of proceeds...... Social change my arse and the narcissism is on another level. I don't think Hyram is a bad guy at all but he's been really badly advised on this and looks such a hypocrite for so many reasons.

[@elin_]

@@lyubo_stan "hoping to donate 10%" doesn't mean that he will.

[@cdd4248]

Yes!

[@asifnothingeverhappend]

The only unbiased review for this brand comes from Dr Dray. She doesn't suck up to Hyram like all his other skincare friends. Their reviews need a disclaimer for being completly biased.

[@vanyc5716]

Agreed. Dr Dray is no nonsense and actually recommends affordable skin products for her audience. Love her!

[@BedboundME]

Dr dray Looks too much thro a dry skin lense. She didn’t appreciate enough that oily skin people need a gel light moisturiser so it’s great

[@candiedragon]

Cassandra Bankson seems pretty capable of throwing away any bias with her reviews imo.

[@OYJluv]

Exactly! She was so professional!

[@dcnannen4319]

@@candiedragon agreed

[@Kensingtonhawk]

The thing is, he isnt up front about his natural skin and use filter during videos and IG stories. However, today during the pre launch ig live, i got to see his skin without filter and although its nice, it isnt what people claim it to be. Similar to how trisha paytas came out with her skincare line however her real skins isnt even close to how it looked in her marketing video. Also, the packaging aint revolutionary, its been done by multiple other brands and $30 for a 1.7 oz serum?? HELLO?? HIS MARKETING SCREAMED WHITE SAVIOUR as well.

[@DanielFolsom]

To be honest, while I'm probably not going to purchase this, I'm not sure I care about what his skin looks like. There are people who have incredible skin-insanely amazing skin-and their skincare routine is either insanely overdone (hey there Jada Pinkett Smith!) or basically non-existent; they're like "lol i just use shampoo on my face." A lot of this is genetics. And just because someone's skin isn't perfect doesn't mean their skincare routine or products are bad, in the same sense that just because their skin is perfect doesn't mean their routine/products are good. As to the white savior thing ... idk, he does live in Hawaii and always talk about sustainability (especially regarding the coral reefs) and also marketing towards subpopulations that have traditionally been ignored by the skincare industry. I think the line here is tough. Would it really be better if he continued to ignore, for example, black people, as a lot of the industry has? Surely no, but then intentional inclusion can come off as being a white savior. YMMV.

[@DanielFolsom]

@@MK-gs4tu To be fair, that's because (for whatever reason) they're basing their charitable giving on sales rather than profit, which is really unusual. That corner of the website also says they'll publish reports on their giving every 6 months.

[@DanielFolsom]

​@@MK-gs4tu You could always wait and see how much they actually give (and how transparent they are) rather than have this strong a reaction to, yes, an ambitious "ambition" that's difficult to guarantee in light of the fact that 10% of sales is a huge number and could quite plausibly threaten the brand's existence. Now, you could be saying "I want more specifics about what they'll do from this brand that launched ... uh ... today." But those are also provided: "Over the next 12 months, we have committed to protecting 2,500 acres of tropical forest from deforestation through our partnership with Rainforest Trust, storing over 370,000 tonnes of C02." And AGAIN ... I'm not saying this is an insanely charitable brand. We don't know yet. We'll see if their commitment to transparency holds up. But your reaction is pretty extreme.

[@DanielFolsom]

@@MK-gs4tu You're asking for a guaranteed percentage of sales before the brand has launched? ... Alright. (Also-update, you shouldn't have to wait six months! While they say they'll be releasing full reports every six months, they also say after they launch that they'll provide regular updates.) And again, you're making a weird number of assumptions. If you're jaded, I understand, but just now you literally made up a hypothetical out of thin air and then switched to saying "that's definitely what he's what he's doing." (Notice the switch from "I" to "he": "If I gave Unicef $1, I could legally claim that I have actively contributed to the increase of funding in social welfare for underprivileged children in 192 countries around the world; it's technically true! So he's basically taking credit for everything that charity has ever done since it opened.")

[@DanielFolsom]

​@@MK-gs4tu I actually don't watch any of his videos! I do watch Doctorly-I just prefer dermatologists to estheticians and lay people. I just find it interesting that you're making so many assumptions. For example, you still don't see how you've switched around the charity example. His words are: ​*Over the next 12 months* we have committed to protecting 2,500 acres of tropical forest from deforestation through our partnership with Rainforest Trust, storing over 370,000 tonnes of C02. You've said "Oh he's taking credit for what the charity already did." ... But that makes absolutely no sense. For one, it's a future commitment, ("Over the next 12 months.") and it's actually distinct from the charity's commitment for the year. (So the whole theory of "he's donating a small amount to charity and then taking credit for everything the charity does" has gone out the window.) For two, and this is key, the idea that it's already done or not tied to brand's donations doesn't gel with this, also from the website (on how you can track them and verify the brand's charitable giving): *The social impact of the brand, delivered through your purchases, will be updated with progress every month, showing how many acres of rainforest were saved and how many community water projects delivered. You’ll be able to see exactly where this impact has gone.* I'm aware of the corporate speak and the non-concrete promises. I know you like to talk about language drawn up by a lawyer, as a recent graduate of law school, I'm familiar. What's just surprising to me is that you've gone straight into "He's definitely lying and making weaselly promises so he can get out of them later," when Occam's razor would suggest a much simpler solution: He has no idea how the brand will do, so he cannot commit to a certain percentage of sales going to charity. All of this is rather pointless: If, in a month or less, we see that he hasn't provided any updates or isn't donating to charities, we can continue this chat, if you like! But all you're doing right now is speculating with no basis. (In the meantime, I do think it's worth noting that things beyond charitable giving-such as ingredient sourcing, sugarcane packaging, and other commitments are currently checkable, which, for me, adds some validity to the claims. But I completely understand saying "I want to wait and see." That makes sense! What doesn't make sense is the weird confidence you have in "it's all fake!!")

[@sasuxsakuxfan]

Why listen to an influencer who calls themselves a "specialist" with no history of being one ever when you can listen to doctors who been in school for 8+ years?? make it make sense

[@kaylaannstation2740]

i mean yeah . But Hyram is indeed a skincare specialist and even dermatologist approved him . no hate though

[@Lola-oy6fm]

All you can say is that he isn’t a dermatologist? He is a specialist! he is smart and has passion for his work. If his informations weren’t correct dermatologists wouldn’t support him and they would tell us right away! Thats a fact if you agree or not.

[@ambergerhelper7852]

I can’t, because it doesn’t. Listen to a professional, not an influencer.

[@1rimmad1]

@@Lola-oy6fm :/ I don’t think the main argument was that he isn’t smart or to knock his work ethic. Just pointing out facts that he ISNT board certified and in an over-saturated market people would much rather trust products and recommendations from someone who has the certification as opposed to a kid on the internet who has done x hours worth of research. :) Also this dermatologist is his friend as is Susan Yara etc and whilst they may not want to, that friendship to some extent makes their reviews somewhat biased even if unintentionally.

[@brooklynlea]

@@Lola-oy6fm he claims to be a specialist but has very little or no proof of an educational background for it. I think he only got the “specialist” name because he worked for a skincare brand and was an beauty counter/sales representative. I’m not saying he isn’t smart, but there’s a difference between self taught by reading on google vs. going to actual school for it. I agree with the other comments, if he isn’t certified then many people are over crediting him. I think he does a great job spreading good information, but he does not have as reliable knowledge as other certified creators.

[@SVKD98]

They've use 5% of cosme phytami centella(which has abt 94%glycerin, 5% water and 1% asiaticoside) and 3% cosme phytami green tea(Glycerin above 95% and caffein). I'd rather have him put them in leaveon products. Effectively you have 0.05% asiaticoside and abt 0.04% caffein in then end product. Thats y its below Phenoxyethanol. Also this product doesnt have deposition system that will deliver the extracts to your skin. They'll just wash off. So know that even if it works for you it isnt the extracts that worked for you because in any cleanser without potent actives like GA, SA, BPO etc its not the extracts that are working but the base surfactant formula which is showing results. For any cleanser, 90% of the effects are due to in actives. Also 26 bucks for 50ml moisturizer,? Hell no. Let's not even go into prices. Also his donating is very technical. On website it say he only donates when you buy a SERUM. I'll probably prefer hylamide cleanser for 20 bucks which has pretty superior tech than his basic cleanser or even LRP which gives 400ml for 14 bucks. Also about his retinol, its 30 bucks for 1ounce which is super super expensive. Retinol is eq to 0.2% and rainbow algae which pretty much is a gimmick. He could've just put normal algae. I have much superior products at much cheaper price points. Also the donations which he's so hyping about will give him tax benefits. He's talking money from consumers and donating from company accounts to get tax deductions. I'd rather donate money myself bcz it gives me more control over where i want to donate and choose the cause myself. I'd rather buy good cheap products and donate some money myself which will still be more than what he donates and also don't give him tax benefits from my money. He says I created a brand which sparks social change when in reality its the consumers money that's going to charity and also giving him tax benefits. Basically he using customers money to reduce his company's carbon footprint while selling them the idea HE has done this. Also about bioplastics. They're still plastics and are pretty similar to normal plastics. Most of recycling places dont have proper infrastructure to recycle this. Plastics are actually recycled more than glass. So I'd rather have him use normal plastic and reduce the pricing and have a recycle/reuse program separately in brand where he can recall all the used packaging and reuse or recycle them. It'll still be a lot cheaper than his marketing. Bioplastics are just giving him marketing material. You know whats more sustainable? Not creating a brand if you cant compete with cheapest in the market. Because at this point market has become so saturated with actives that people don't need more. I knw this for a fact that he's never even going close to big players which have cheap products and also have charity programs. Most companies today have some or the other kind of chartiy programs integrated into their brands and still they're much much cheaper than his expensive brand with basic formulations. Combining all this is a massive greenwashing and justifying his price point. I remember he used to recommended more affordable products and then he signed with YTTP as "specialist" which tbh isn't even a thing. He didn't even disclose his partnership with YTTP. He's contradicting pretty much all the principles he has worked upon since start just because its his own brand. So I'll take his own advice that don't fall for the marketing and I'll buy product which are more cheap and work for me and I'll donate the money myself and get the tax benefits for myself.

[@indrar7766]

best comment

[@KrisD007]

Thank you. I didn’t know this

[@jelena27]

You put this so eloquently and covered everything I was thinking 😄

[@ingupin]

Totally agree with the recycling point. Having recollection programs for proper recycling should be a priority for any self-proclaimed 'sustainable' brand.

[@leylanipaola]

hi! just to clarify he stopped recommending the simple cleanser because it was discontinued in the US!

[@Zenmasterzzz]

A “skin care specialist” who worked at Saks as a make up artist who gives advise on skin care, why would I buy from him? The price point is way too high for the amount of product you are getting and you can get the same ingredient for far cheaper with other brands. No thank you, I rather spend my money elsewhere. This is such a cash grab and I hope his young fans realize this.

[@leahcarnevale7340]

I used to really like his videos when I came across them like 2 years ago. Then I stated looking more into it because I waw curious why he called himself a 'specialist' rather than a more official title that would be indicative of formal education, or just 'enthusiast', as many skinfluencers seem to be. Turns out his formal training is that of a sales person for youth to the people... (at least as far as I have been able to see). It seems really disingenuous and manipulative, like he's actively trying to establish his authority, yet has zero qualifications. What's wrong with just being interested in skincaer? Nothing! Just don't try to fool vulnerable young people into thinking you're educated so they'll buy the products you recommend (though your affiliate links, of course). just gross.

[@Zenmasterzzz]

@@leahcarnevale7340 tell me about it. For a year he raved about youth to the people, and I gave in to it and bought the product and found out that he was affiliated with them on a level that is more of an employee relationship as if he worked there and that’s when I began to look at him more closely. In some of his videos he raves about a product that is sponsored eventhought it had fragrance in it and other products that is not sponsored he called out the fragrance specifically, makes you wonder how much he actually like the brand or he likes it because of the money he is receiving. His opinion changes base on his sponsorships.

[@farahjichi4617]

You realize he has experts who are responsible for the laboratory and scientific prodovtion and design of the products? Do you think he is making them in his kitchen? Do you think the owners of most popular and successful skin care brands are expert themselves on skin care?

[@Zenmasterzzz]

@@farahjichi4617 yea you’re right. Some people just slap their name on something just for the money.

[@photohey9856]

Hyram has dragged multiple brands for the ingredients he has in his own product😐. After he drags a skincare brand he just promotes the one that is sponsoring him without saying he is sponsored. There is a lot more to that. I stopped following him.

[@Momofukudoodoowindu]

I've never liked Hyrams attitude... the persona he presents online, at least. It always comes across very condescending.

[@karincope3019]

I am not a fan of his either , find him very fake and condescending.

[@elizaheathen]

which ingredients?

[@starlight1818]

i follow him but prefer watching derms and estheticians anyway, still... can't please everyone, but i'm genuinely curious about what ingredients you're referring to?

[@danieljalomojr5856]

I don't like Hyram either. I finding him annoying, condescending, and really phony. And how can these Derms say they are friends w/Hyram and provide an honest non biased opinion on Hyrams line?

[@karincope3019]

I think that I am one of the few that is not a fan of Hyram . He’s another influencer who he promotes what is sponsoring him with out being upfront that he’s being sponsored .

[@olivial5558]

...except he always says if he's sponsored...

[@ginar51]

You would do the same thing if you had the chance.

[@elin_]

@@olivial5558 lol no he doesn't

[@arctic2921]

@@ginar51 that certainly says a lot about you...

[@nujhat424]

Isn’t it illegal to not disclose sponsors? It’s serious if he isn’t upfront

[@action1679]

Notice how he says “We, ours, us” even though he’s alone right now. He’s a REAL ONE💯

[@tweetingsparks]

I love it.

[@monermccarthy7198]

Good point!

[@maggyhamada2560]

Really, no offense to anyone, but I"m pretty sure if these products were created by an unknown Joe, reviews by all these Doctor and aesthetician youtubers would most likely be harsher and more critical of the products. There is no such thing as putting your biases or subjectivity aside when you're good friends with someone.

[@Lintrovert]

I’m pretty shocked there isn’t a sunscreen

[@ladybuggs11]

Sunscreens take longer to release because there is a process they have to go through for approval.

[@gracebubier3021]

It’s coming out next year!

[@nikki2370]

Riight

[@Julie86Mac]

Sunscreen takes much longer to produce because it has to go through the FDA, as sunscreen is considered a drug.

[@BringBackCyParkVendingMachines]

It has to be FDA approved first

[@MoniqueXSM]

Won’t be purchasing for a ton of reasons but notably, the amount of product you get for the price? I would have must rather Hyram invest in the Inkey List brand than to create his own brand powered by the Inkey List. That’s more sustainable in the long run. Wish him all the best regardless.

[@zooppies]

I think the price is reasonable for the amount of product. I can see these easily lasting almost 3 months with the amount of product you would use, I think that’s really good. Don’t forget, some of the products like the retinol and exfoliant most likely wont be used everyday by some extending it’s usage life.

[@MoniqueXSM]

@@zooppies that’s fair but retinol can be used everyday (which a lot of people do), once you’ve built tolerance & a lot of these products are very mild (albeit for sensitive skin). For someone like myself that uses prescription retin-a & sees a dermatologist, there’s nothing this line can bring to the table for me. There’s nothing overtly revolutionary here & a lot of other brands (example, FaceTheory, Geek & Gorgeous, even Paula’s Choice have products that are as well-rounded / more well-rounded than the treatment products here). For the basics, the cleanser & the moisturizer (for me) the price point is large especially for the amount of product you’re receiving -these are items you’d be using everyday. To each their own & I was just stating why I won’t be supporting the brand. I didn’t state why the brand shouldn’t be supported but merely why I won’t be supporting.

[@sunscreenhoarder6558]

@@mertcanaksut5653 it doesn't justify a $10-15 markup from inkey list pricing when the production costs are already likely very low. For reference, the ordinary's niacinamide costs something in the range of $0.05 per bottle to make. Hyram's products cost an couple of dollars per unit overall *max*.

[@MoniqueXSM]

@@mertcanaksut5653 “sustainability” is much more than what’s packaged here. There are numerous of companies that are known as B-corporations with positive environmentally sourced ingredients & packaged to be environmentally conscientious with price points that are more accessible to the everyday consumer. Again, feel free to support the brand (didn’t say that others shouldn’t support) but also respect that others don’t need to / want to support for numerous reasons.

[@sabinajoh]

@@MoniqueXSM Just some math to estimate how long it will last Let’s say you use 5 drops per time/day. There’s 20 drops in 1ml That means you can use it for 4 days to use 1ml I think the serums are 30ml? 30x4= 120 days. That’s a little under 4 months which is pretty awesome. I think I gotta buy the salisylic acid serum because anything that lasts that long i good in my book lol

[@roopalsingh4384]

I like that he always says “we” even when he’s alone in most of the videos. So nice😋🥰😍

[@sm3675]

He is married and religious. 😑🤦‍♂️

[@stacylbrewer]

One thing I always wonder about Hyram is, what are his qualifications that make him a skin care "expert?" Did he go to school for this? Has he had any hand on experience with working on peoples faces? Not to be a Debbie Downer, but why do so many ppl take advice from him if he doesn't have these qualifications?

[@nataliechaput9293]

he has an undisclosed partnership with Youth To The People where his title with them is “specialist”…. evidently, he took it way further

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

My dermatologist had 'skincare specialist' written on his prescription papers and pamphlets. He has MBBS (basic medical school degree all doctors need before masters in India) and MD in Dermatology from the top-notch medical school in India. He has 28+ years of experience treating skincare issues especially acne. Now Hyram on the other hand has none of that. He's educated but his qualification is in the arts. My dermatologist didn't exactly give me the best advice (he suggested products full of irritating fragrance and didn't prescribe sunscreen) and I already started seeing sm1 new and would now see sm1 even more dedicated. I'm not against Hyram because his advice can be good. He should just stop equating himself to a 'specialist' . He's just an enthusiast.

[@rakong246]

@@taiyabazaheer9492 derms aren't the best people to get recommendations from regarding products as their training lies in a different domain (skin disease and treatment, predominantly). For this, cosmetic chemists and aestheticians are way more reliable for product recs! I fully agree that Hyram doesn't have a single qualification to be giving out any credible "advice" but he can give an opinion that people can choose to follow or not. Medical professionals of all kids really get the shaft on social media compared to these influencers who have zero qualifications but are good at marketing and are likeable.

[@rakong246]

In short, because most medical professionals lack the marketing skill that influencers (who have zero training or qualification for giving such advice) have. People need to wake up and start taking advice from the pros.

[@aniraz90s]

He doesn't have to be a dermatologist. He doesn't need qualifications because he learned and understand the ingredients in a product. He did his own research and he expands his knowledge through it. If you have skills and talent in something you are passionate about, you don't need to be certified. If you don't trust him on his knowledge then simply don't take his advice. The only reason i trust him is because he can read and understand all those ingredients on the back of the product that sounds and looks like alien to me. He explained each ingredients very well and the products he recommended are working very well for my sensitive skin. I watched various youtubers who learned about the ingredients in each product and I can say that i trust Hyram with his knowledge.

[@chadspro]

All I am going to say is I think it's very telling when people who come out with their own line's continue to use products cherry picked from other brands.

[@1shu]

You mean kylie

[@blobster91]

We appreciate Dr maxfields smoldering at all times.

[@tweetingsparks]

At ALL times.

[@delanosmall6912]

Girl, Dr Shah has a much better personality, which translates well to bed side manner professionally and personally 🤔

[@annestep6741]

@@delanosmall6912 well we don't really know about Dr Maxfield by the bedside do we? They are both adorable

[@SilviaGarcia-pt1lu]

@@delanosmall6912 I agree, I don't know them in person but Doc M appears bored or something. I enjoyed this video a lot more :)

[@blobster91]

@@delanosmall6912 yes Dr Shah is the vibrant one with a great on screen presence.

[@dip5635]

His line is a good example of just because you can doesn't mean you should

[@RJ-sd6uc]

Won't buy his, he talks about bad ingredients so many times but end up keep on promoting brands that have bad ingredient that he talk about because he received PR from them. He only in it for the money.

[@kaylaannstation2740]

show me where . He even stated in his videos that he rejected brands that wants him to do a PR for products that contains harmful ingredients / fragrance .

[@RJ-sd6uc]

@@kaylaannstation2740 go to BLUEMJ Channel & Jordan Sparks, they have exposed him with Receipts.

[@kaylaannstation2740]

@@RJ-sd6uc thank youu , i will be checking that out

[@imaanjaffri431]

Tbh I don't understand people that are buying from Hyram. I love the guy but he isn't a dermatologist. He isn't a professional. Why buy from another celebrity/influencer?

[@kaylaannstation2740]

he is a certified specialist ,

[@imaanjaffri431]

@@kaylaannstation2740 Yeah but would you take professional advice from a dermatologist or from a famous influencer that doesn't choose to pursue an esthetician's license or dermatology degree?

[@kaylaannstation2740]

@@imaanjaffri431 sorry i took advice from both sides . And Hyram really helped me fix my skincare routine . you do you

[@321MjC]

@-w -a LMFAOOO☠ But on a serious note, 100% agree with everything you said. This is all just so odd to me... it's like everything he ever supposedly "stood for" he has eventually, in some way or another, COMPLETELY contradicted/been a total hypocrite about. I've never liked those kind of people in real life why in the worlddd would I like them && support them online ???!!!🥴 ALSO, this may be a little far fetched but in my opinion he is/is becoming the literal skin care version of James Charles. Only time will tell🤷‍♀️

[@bellab1142]

@@imaanjaffri431 he doesn’t need a piece of paper to be a self taught specialist...

[@gennaa6111]

Maybe if he disclosed the exact percentage going to the charities I would consider buying his line, but I don’t know if I’m paying $30 for a product and $1 is donated or if $15 is donated, there’s a big difference, and considering the fact they are twice the price of regular inkey list products tells me that they saw this as a chance to make huge bucks and not really about sustainability and helping people, but rather helping their pockets grow. If they are planning to donate 10% there should be a 20% increase (10% to donate and 10% for Hyram) but instead it’s over 200% increase 👎🏻

[@Sofia-dt1if]

I think he aims to donate 10%

[@gigistrailsandtales7203]

@@Sofia-dt1if define “aims” please?

[@Sofia-dt1if]

He is planning to donate 10% (wants to donate 10% in the future but is not at that percentage right now)

[@Euphoria0717]

with all the respect...why produce more as if there's not enough already??? all these calabs with "influencers" are made just to get more cash and that's true..it's not selfless in any way....and to invent something special you have to be a professional in the field...not just an influencer...

[@meganz020]

Because he’s setting a new standard for brands to adhere to. Competition in the marketplace is a good thing - his innovative ingredients will push new brands to take their products to a bigger and better level

[@leahcarnevale7340]

@@meganz020 Is this a joke?

[@mahnikt]

@@leahcarnevale7340 She's obviously a big fan of his. She's been defending him under all comments. Just ignore her.

[@gracebubier3021]

That’s why he turned to the inky list for help a.k.a.(the professionals)….he’s brand is focused on suitable packaging, making sure the ingredients are properly farmed(gives more job opportunities for people) , and the impact when you buy these products (depends on what products you buy) you are giving a person in need free drinking water for a whole year , and with every product purchased you are helping protect CO2 rich tropical forests from deforestation. So I don’t really know what your talking about every product you buy you are helping the earth. I like what Hyrams trying to do here (it’s more for the earth). That’s my opinion.

[@elopix234]

You could ask that yourself for any new innovation on the market. Aren’t there enough cars on the streets? Why would Elon Musk make new ones? Well guess what Audi, BMW and Mercedes are shitting in their pants and were FORCED to change due to the competition. Now Audi won’t produce combusted after 2026. And you know how a market shifts? If 100 people buy 100 face creams from let’s say careve (which is a subsidiary from L‘Oreal which is owned by 23% by Nestlé -> both are stock corporation). Do you think they have anything besides profit maximization in mind? Would they spend more for ethical sourcing, fair trade and fair wages in other countries? But anyway - now, under the premise that their creams are empty, 50 people buy next time Hyrams or any other *more sustainable* brand. Cerave has less sellings, so they won’t produce as much product anymore. The market shifts toward the demand. If cerave acknowledges that this happened due to environmental reasons they maybe will change their production - either have less profit then to let the pricing as it is now - or will raise prices. Everyone wants to do sth about climate change as long as it’s not affecting oneself right? No higher prices for fuel (car or heating), no higher prices for electricity, no higher prices for more sustainable cosmetic. And then ones cognitive dissonance kicks in and everyone screams „greenwashing“. 🥱 If hyram actually donates a lot and does help for social and environmental change I‘d rather give him my money than the billionaires from L’Oréal or Nestle etc 😌 But I still buy my products made in Germany/Europe from regional manufacturers where I know how my money is used.

[@Seaotters.and.smiles]

I read over the ingredients list of Hyram's products... They are not terrifying but they are also not superior quality. These are average products at a mid priced point. I love Dr. Maxfield and Dr. Shah, but when you're friends with someone, it's really tough to provide feedback to them or about them. I'm not a dermatologist, and I don't claim to know all they know, but I personally am not a fan of these products, I don't think they will do much for your skin. To be quite frank... They are comparable to whatever you can find at Target or Walmart. You can verify what I'm saying by researching the ingredients in these products.

[@BethaneyLilly]

Yes! You cant give an unbiased review/feedback when you have a relationship with the person/brand (BIASED) It’s similarly for free products/PR/ or anything else where someone given you something …it establishes a relationship unbalanced from the start, there’s tons of psychology behind the whole mess …there’s a reason why PR exists and brands send out pricy gifts! They know what they’re doing. Even the most genuine person can’t be completely unbiased or neutral when they don’t have their own money on the line or have some other personal interest.

[@davidwebley6186]

@@BethaneyLilly Not forgetting in the YT skincare sphere Hyram has a lot of followers so having his name or products feature on your channel will also drive traffic to your own channel. In say that I do think that Dr Shah is being genuine with his review, after all his professional credibility is at stake here.

[@poppykins2714]

What are the products actually like though? How do they feel on your skin? What is the consistency? How do they absorb? Do they layer well? What are the negatives, if any? Do they interact well with products from other brands? Where would you put them in your own skincare routine? How do they compare to other similarly priced products? I would have liked to know what your personal experience was, not a general discussion of the ingredients.

[@sunsundks3891]

Comparing his friend's products with other products eould be a strange thing to do tho haha

[@melly4746]

He’s literally going into lather, absorption, skin type, strength, allergens... I think he did great in a somewhat awkward situation.

[@Seaotters.and.smiles]

I am not planning on purchasing these products. They are pretty mediocre if you research the ingredients and search for them on the skin care decoder apps. I'm very surprised that Dr. Shah made this video. I think he should have just not. I would have appreciated him saying that he is friends with Hyram and therefore would prefer to not review his products.

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

James Welsh did a 30-minute video on his experience. I couldn't watch the whole thing. I simply don't care and am disappointed in the hurrah for all of this.

[@ellielyndon1645]

Thissss🔥🔥🔥

[@carltonbanks2351]

I am happy Hyram got this opportunity, he seems like such a nice guy! I might not buy his products (because I already have a routine that works thanks to Doctorly) but I hope it does well nonetheless :) Thanks for the honest review, Dr. Shah

[@simplysharonxo]

Same for me. I just started Curology and don’t want to mess my skin up by incorporating something new 😬

[@Doctorly]

Love this comment!! Definitely don't buy anything you don't need!

[@christinereilly3699]

I dont fall for this or anything like this of promoting all this fluff. The moment he said " oh hyram and i are friends" the creditability is gone. I go for no nonsense basic products. I'll keep my cereve cream/lotion; gentle cleansers and such without breaking the bank. My 20 year old dumb self would run out and get this; but this wiser and older say nope nope nope.

[@lyndseyogorman5367]

Completely agree! I love Hyram but if you're friends with someone you are biased.

[@knaxor]

Even the people who aren’t friends with him say they’re good products. Stop being so jaded and trust someone for once lmao

[@বদমাইশব্যাটা]

@@knaxor this is why hyram's fanbase scares me. It feels more like a cult because God forbid you point out a criticism because they will chew you out

[@IDontCare39]

@@বদমাইশব্যাটা I stopped following him because of this reason. The comments I found on his videos were disgusting. People would call names and be so rude to people who criticized Hyram. Nowadays, I mostly follow the dermatologists here.

[@beatm6948]

@@knaxor Yeah. Overpriced, but decent.

[@midlifemom5829]

Now that Hyram is pitching his own stuff, can I get my hands on some Cerave ?!

[@jodiehenry4334]

I know, RIGHT?????????? I can't get Cerave to save my life! Sheesh! Out of stock everywhere!

[@MichieKy]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 ikr!

[@bodnarova05]

lol right? 🐑🐑

[@NG-68k]

Yessss! I went to get my usuals only to be told they went viral on tiktok and social media and they didn’t have any in stock and wouldn’t for a while!

[@jodiehenry4334]

@@NG-68k I use the SA cream for K.P. and it's nowhere in stock, and it was $85 on amazon! I'm like, WTF? On their website, they said that they recently started selling in Australia and that's causing an issue with supply!

[@dominiksagan9622]

The whole line costs around 120 dollars. Paulas choice kits also cost around 120 + you can get some free products. + the Pc has way more studies behind than Hyrams new brand. I would say that these products would normally cost 15-20 dollars, and you pay plus 5-10 dollars for the marketing.

[@harleen.10]

I wud say those 5-10 dollars go to the social impact the brand is gonna bring Dominik :)

[@dominiksagan9622]

@@harleen.10 Yea ofc. Keep dreaming

[@jadaaurie7696]

@@dominiksagan9622 exactly

[@sunscreenhoarder6558]

@@harleen.10 no they don't. $0.50 per product goes to the thirst project but hyram has yet to disclose how much is going to the rainforest trust. he's claimed their "ambition" is to donate 10% of their profits overall but that's actually textbook corporate speech for "we're saying we will so we can mark up our products, but we almost certainly won't donate all that at all and don't want to get sued". The recyclable packaging is also nothing new, the ingredients are either gimmicky or in very low concentrations in what look to be pretty cheap formulations and there's just no way they cost more than a few dollars to produce overall. the inkey list was also founded with the intention of being the "fast fashion" of skincare and have boasted of their very short development times and low production costs in the past. most of the production costs seem to be on the marketing lmao.

[@xyber81]

As someone that has tried all sorts for my acne prone face and neck. Don’t mess about. Get a tretinoin prescription and a bland, but decent moisturizer. Use a Vit c serum, a light moisturizer and spf during the day. And don’t believe the scare tactics on silicone based products. The most matte and beneficial product I’ve used for day time use is a silicone based spf. Never take advice from someone trying to sell you something. Research and word of mouth is king. So many influencers that are chatting up products, don’t actually have a clue how to use them. How many have you seen rubbing neat cerave cleanser on their face, then moaning they broke out. 😂

[@holicseasky]

heyyyyy can I ask what silicone spf you use?

[@michelletidler6773]

I couldnt agree more! Just another you tuber trying to make $.

[@modernenergy682]

I don't have acne prone skin and it is still basically what I use too.

[@xyber81]

@@holicseasky supergoop unseen sunscreen

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

Exactly! Exactly the same things worked for my acne and scars. Hyram: Hi my name is Hy- Me: Hold my tretenoin.

[@lola.odetola]

here for the truth

[@DetectiveHouse]

Everyone and their mother seems to be coming out with a new skincare line. 🙄

[@bodnarova05]

And alcohol brand 😂

[@kawakibkaouther298]

Exactly like makeup or clothing lines

[@MarissaCooperButPoor]

Shereene Idriss is coming out with hers 💀💀💀 I-

[@whispersamungtrees]

At least skin care is on Hyrams brand 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@paolasejasayala6472]

@@MarissaCooperButPoor Really? Well good for her! She is a dermatologist who has worked in the cosmetic industry but I don't think I will be able to buy them

[@NG-68k]

I feel like Hyram just copies Dr Dray’s videos. Or at least he did. I would watch one of her videos and...what do you know...he would come out with a video extremely similar a few days or a week later. Haven’t watched him in a while because I’d rather follow an actual board certified dermatologist who has the knowledge and background to speak about skin care...

[@christinereilly3699]

You noticed that too? Lol. He (hyrum) looks like a nice guy and i couldn't watch his videos all the way thru.

[@ajae...]

In the beginning he definitely did and was open about it. He said that Dr. Dray and Beautipedia were his main sources of information.

[@charkitte]

Dr. Dray has given out some seriously erroneous advice at times. 'Board-certified' does NOT impress me at all.

[@NG-68k]

@@charkitte specifics? That’s a very broad statement to make without referencing any specifics

[@dayze2764]

I did use to think this as well.

[@lindsayp8131]

Would love a video on skincare for pregnancy and breastfeeding! I feel like we are often excluded from product lines (especially when it comes to safe exfoliants & treatment serums).

[@barbieblue3336]

Does Dr Dray have anything?

[@mimimoon6082]

Often? It's more like always. Dr. Alexis Stephens has an excellent video on pregnancy; and Dr. Vanita Rattan has one as well. Both moms with small children who know what to use and stay away from. You should check them out.

[@vst8968]

Dr Dray does have a video about pregnancy safe skincare. Spoiler…it ain’t a lot. I’m pregnant and the struggle is REAL. I miss retinol and bakuchiol is not cutting it 😭

[@rizkiidesti1956]

Dr dray & dr shereene idriss addressed these issues on their serums

[@jennifermcdaniel3910]

Lindsay-Maybe it's not left out, it's because there aren't safe treatments, serums, retonids etc. for pregnant women?! This is because most of the greedy world of skincare still has enough values left to not want to intentionally harm pregnant women & their fetuses!!! 🙃 How do scientists do their R&D without testing?! Especially, on pregnant women?! 🤰

[@kaslayton]

Including the time stamps on your videos is SO HELPFUL!!! Appreciate the thoughtfulness for your viewers

[@JAY-oe5jj]

No offense to H but I’m not buying any of his product , one it’s too pricy and just not going to spend $$ on a influencer who named it selfless.

[@bodnarova05]

I’m not spending my money on anything from an influencer. No offence to Hyram. He seems sweet though, and we all gotta eat :)

[@blobster91]

Same. What they said ☝

[@Leticia-yj2tq]

Plus he is extremely misleading about his credentials. I don’t trust him at all

[@versai2770]

To expensive, small and I just rather not!!

[@chaelisa2763]

Finally someone said it I got hate for saying that!

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

He's a millionaire business man. Everything he does is contrived and to make money.

[@nellis9377]

"I don't talk to a lot of people" - me, someone whose social life is 98% virtual, felt this in my soul 🤣

[@SebastianoZanda]

How can a 50ml package be sustainable? These products are expensive and they bring nothing new to the market. I don't get the hype for them

[@ryanmartin3012]

👏👏

[@harleen.10]

if ur concerned with how it’s sustainable, go read on the website lol. it does actually bring something new to the market, cuz I’ve never heard a skincare product make social change, nor have I ever heard a skincare brand to be accessible to all skin types, nor have I ever heard a skincare brand also being all safe for sensitive skin while still having good ingredients. It’s all about the way u look at it. 🙃

[@sarahmunson1778]

@@harleen.10 yeah, cause none of those claims are accurate about the brand lmao

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

@@sarahmunson1778 Exactly... And there are likely brands who do good for the earth without having a mouthpiece like Hyram partnering with them.

[@roxey1217]

Yes, the real questions we should be asking !

[@measbeauty]

Don't lie Dr Maxfield's in the bathroom reapplying his tretinoin for the third time today! Edit: I didn't come up with the first part of this comment, I thought the original one was funny , so I switched it up to something more fitting of the last video I seen from Doctorly. Had this been twitter I would have retweeted, but this is YT and all we can do it comment! Have a great day!

[@Doctorly]

haha he's a savage

[@Name-se3xz]

Lol, you really had to copy someones comment and format to replace it with tretinoin. Very original and creative.

[@measbeauty]

@@Name-se3xz well they said he was putting on moisturizer and I said he was putting on tretinoin for the third time I wasn't really copying bud sorry that it offended you!

[@Name-se3xz]

@@measbeauty well no i’m not offended lol it’s nothing i’m just saying you commented on mine then post Me: You can’t fool us. Dr. maxfield is in the hotel washroom, most likely applying _________ You: Don’t lie Dr. maxfield is in the bathroom reapplying _______ And i totally agree we the man knows what ingredients he loves and uses them all to no end lol

[@measbeauty]

I definitely commented on your post first wasn't trying to hide the fact that I used the in the bathroom comment def just thought it was funny because I just watched their retinol video where he said he applied tret 3 times a day, and I couldn't resist to pick on him.

[@karenfarmer8709]

I have no interest in 'influencer' products...all Hyram did was pick out some colors, packaging, and add his name to Inkey List chemists' formulas/products. There is nothing new here product-wise. I will never overpay so that Hyram can give to charities and pat himself on the back for redistributing my (our) money and call that being 'selfless.' I'll pick my own charities to support...and buy The Ordinary and CeraVe products.

[@ponnakmoniktoch5216]

With your one negative perspective, the company still run so perfectly fine, pat ur urself Karen and go learn about the industry more.

[@Zenmasterzzz]

Thank you! Why would I spend all that money for that when I can buy from a cheaper brand that actually works. Influencer brands are just a cash grab and take advantage of their fans.

[@Okamisou]

Generally I completely agree with you, but out of curiosity I’ll probably try it once. Not because of Hyram but because i think the ingredients in some are interesting.

[@t.ris_]

@@Okamisou yess! I had the same opinion

[@ponnakmoniktoch5216]

@@Zenmasterzzz oh u found the duplicate?

[@deniselawrence8758]

You are such a nice human! Why can’t everyone think like you? I love watching your videos! Thanks for being you 😊

[@modernenergy682]

Hyram does not disclose that he is getting paid for products he recommends/reviews. No one can test that many products as Hyram.

[@Fabiana_A_A]

He does?

[@modernenergy682]

@@Fabiana_A_A he doesn't. Only if it is a sponsored video. But he reviews products a lot like best this and best that. All of that is paid too but he doesn't disclose

[@natashafraser8685]

@@modernenergy682 I thought the same thing, but if you look in the descriptions of his videos he has affiliated links that he gets a profit from. He mentions it in almost every intro, but I always skipped those so I didn’t know lol

[@modernenergy682]

@@natashafraser8685 those are separate. Brands pay him to review products. There are videos on KZbin about it. Like millions of dollars a month

[@karatalksaboutstuff7333]

@@modernenergy682 I've seen a few of those videos. The ones I've seen conflate being a "partner" (which just means you have affiliate links) with being sponsored.

[@thamaira2979]

For those who’s wondering what “Maracujá” means: I’m brazilian and “Maracujá” is actually a portuguese word that means “Passion fruit”. I looked for the ingredient list of the product and it says that contains maracujá seed oil that significantly reduce Trans Epidermal Water Loss (TEWL) on inflamed or breakout skin to support reinforcing the skin barrier :)

[@sarahmunson1778]

It's totally fine to make a good living, we all need to, but to call your brand "Selfless" while doing it? When Hyram is already making quite a good living and could donate 100% of the profits if he wanted to, which would be the ACTUAL selfless thing to do (or better yet, not start a brand at all)? I think if he wanted to really help the planet and marginalized humans, he would have started a campaign to push already existing popular brands to become zero waste and have more ethical and environmentally friendly production processes - THAT I would be impressed with. He's one of very few people in the skincare world with the influence to do that and it could have had a fantastic impact. If he had done that, then I might accept him using the word "selfless."

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

He could totally influence his fans to be better at selecting fewer and better products and to consider waste when making purchases... Instead, he sells more garbage.

[@sarahmunson1778]

@maria daza there are brands started by celebrities that do that - Newman's Own, for example. Rich people don't need the profits.

[@sophieya.3996]

@maria daza true, he can only donate some but not all since it is a business, not charity.

[@sophieya.3996]

@@sarahmunson1778 make ur own then. His business, he decide.

[@sarahmunson1778]

@@sophieya.3996 my comment, I decide. Make ur own.

[@giadafurno5986]

“I read a lot, but I don’t talk to a lot of people” what a mood

[@sabina6280]

I just think it's ridiculous to call the brand selfless when you know he is gonna earn big bucks from it

[@sandcake]

I can't believe he will get more than 10% from the profit. Inkey List does everything (Creation, Production, Homepage, Packaging, Warehouse, Customer Service, Shipping) with Hyram's Name on it. They have to pay all workers and have all the risk. (Of course I am not saying that 10% isn't going to be a lot of money).

[@noahderyck7185]

@@sandcake why do you think people will buy it? Because of hyram so its normal

[@chroniclesofangie2762]

@@sandcake omg. So what? Is He not supposed to make money from It?? Did ANYONE disclose who is producing and manufacturing the products? How do we know that Hyram didn't put in money to start the product Like?

[@vanessac1721]

"Selfless" is the most humblebrag flex I've seen in a long time. For that reason, pass.

[@kaitlinoconnell517]

agreed. the name = huge turnoff

[@CeeCee630]

Agree

[@vanessac1721]

@Ballerina Bailey I don't think they are actually friends so much as youtube influencers who know each and say nice things about each other because it might lead to more views in the future whether through a collaboration video or one of them recommending the other on their channel.

[@vanessac1721]

@@kaitlinoconnell517 Did you see he changed the name of his KZbin channel to the same thing. Yuck.

[@vanessac1721]

@Ballerina Bailey of course. They all talk each other up. It's a big circle jerk.

[@pappysprite]

Honestly, I'm shocked by this level of promotion. Here is the deal folks: There is an average whopping 78% markup on skincare products. This line $ is excessive! You need a decent face wash, toner, and sunscreen and there are plenty of lines out there with decent sized bottles of at least 4 oz or more, that are cruelty free, and safe ingredients. The price-point is no more than 10 bucks each. Don't throw your hard earned cash out the window by paying too much for skin care.

[@imaanjaffri431]

Honestly, you can buy the exact same things from the Inkey List and for much cheaper! Hyram's products are a bit expensive for the size and amount of product they hold imo.

[@harmonee07]

Well said!

[@lavanniarajalingam50]

Sticking to my tretinoin, timeless vit c , niacinamide frm the ordinary and cerave pm

[@pappysprite]

@@lavanniarajalingam50 I couldn't agree more! Mine regimen is almost identical: Retina-A like you, The Ordinary's niacinamide - about 6 bucks, the Ordinary's Glycolic Acid Toner - full bottle about 8 bucks, I trade out face washes but generally like the South Korean ones and they are all under 10 bucks, full bottles. No reason to pay for any of these things for more than $10 or less with at least 4 oz or more. Finally Neutrogena's SPF for baby - under $10 bucks.

[@pappysprite]

@@ravenswood118 Your statement is wrong, especially for oily and acne prone skin. There is no facial cleanser in the world that can get down into the pores like a toner does. Often times these oils and grime show that proof on a white cotton pad.

[@Sunlit_Reading]

I just wanted to say that I have found so much joy in learning more about skincare. I'm very new and have loved Doctorly, Hyram, James Welsh, Cassandra Bankson, and Anthony Youn MD. It feels like there's a space for everyone, and they all offer their own wonderful content. I discovered Hyram through Dr. Mike, and that's how I discovered all the other skincare KZbinrs. If dermatologists say he offers something worthwhile to the skincare community, why say he has no value? Some of our most beloved brands like CeraVe were not founded by dermatologists, but with them. If Hyram partners with Inkey List dermatologists and chemists to create a skincare line, and no dermatologist is saying any of the products are bad or harmful, our beautiful community doesn't need to attack its right to exist :) Anyhow love to you all

[@toritwopointoh]

im sorry but the name "selfless by hyram" is the dumbest, most ironic thing i have ever heard

[@xyu610]

why

[@elizaheathen]

@@xyu610 the word "selfless" also means "unselfish" and hyram put his own name in the product...some might say that isn't "selfless"

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

Right? My jaw dropped when I heard about the name. Might as well have called it, "I'm selfless, B*&ch!" .... Would have gotten away with it too from the looks of it. So many stans.

[@arctic2921]

@@teletubbiestunetwister9570 legit. it's sad that ppl seemingly can't think for themselves.. I used to like hyram well enough tbh but I'm seeing through everything now

[@dominiksagan9622]

@@elizaheathen and advertising it with Hyrams face 😅. They should have promoted it with nature and how it “helps”, but to they promoted it with Hyram.

[@supriyagour2892]

I'm so excited to see derms reacting to Hyram's product launch! I bought all 5 products, but it's so relieving to hear that the products really do seem to be all he's promising they are. Thank you for your review! I've never clicked on a video so fast. Lol

[@bsnit1]

since you have tried it for a month, I think it would be a nice added bonus if you also include your experience using each product ... is there anything that stand out, etc ... afterall, other youtuber would probably say similar thing about ingredients, etc ... personal touch makes a difference

[@TK-dt4nk]

Thanks for the review! But I have to say, pretty sure my skin broke out just watching it 😳. These products would send me right back in my dermatologist’s chair. Hyram is an influencer, not a physician or even a medical esthetician. The ingredient list is over priced botanicals.

[@CyclingUrchin]

I want more people to talk about how disgusting it is he's using stock images of third world countries to promote his brand. It's such a white savoir brand. "buy this and you'll help save the world and these poor black people!" when the amount donated is next to nothing (just for appearances and tax deductions) and the products aren't even available im Africa (the people who's faces he's exploiting). It's obvious he's wanted to make a skincare line for a long time but between the ingredients, price, marketing, and amount it's such a cash grab

[@Catb3333]

Yeah... They have no clean water but a Sephora nearby ...sure... 😹

[@dominiksagan9622]

Also the thirstprojectcompany seems a little unbelievable for me. It says “Give two people safe, clean drinking water for life as they start their family and build their lives together in their community.” Just for 50$. I am paying more for water in 1 year. Can I have this opportunity, too? I am little bit concerned with these companies, cus what they offer ( for the donation) seems unreachable. And I don’t want to be mean, or get advantage on people Who are in a worse situation that me.

[@randomina465]

@@Catb3333 as a person who lives in third world yes we have Sephora,Vichy ,and the ordinary but no clean water because those brands want to sell their products they don't care if the place is clean or not clean water however is a gouvernement responsibility and the gouvernement isn't doing it's job simple as that

[@mishaslilbae828]

Hyram has completely change my skincare routine and knowledge. All these people painting him as greedy and trying to cancel him bewilders me. If you can't afford the product, don't buy it, he didn't force you. Just watch the free videos of advice and recommendations and purchase the cheaper ones he's recommended. I won't be purchasing his products, but I won't deny how much he has helped me

[@mildredclark7257]

Fax

[@mishaslilbae828]

@lunarpierro you know what's greedy? Brad Pitt's $385 serum.

[@bethleannmartinez5474]

exactly

[@natasha4046]

@@mishaslilbae828you mean Brad mondo? 💀

[@mishaslilbae828]

@@natasha4046 no I mean Brad Pitt💀 look it up it's embarrassing

[@socialanxiety1541]

I respect Dr. Shahs opinion and his analysis of the products themselves but I really wish he or any other major skin care influencer would acknowledge the controversy surrounding hyrams brand. It has nothing to do with the products themselves but everything to do with the brands ethics, marketing and sales. To anyone considering buying selfless by hyram: please do your own research into the issues surrounding the brand before you make the choice to go out and buy. Then if you do still purchase the products you'll at least be making an informed decision.

[@sasuxsakuxfan]

hate hyram but I love your channel so i'll upvote for Dr. Shah and Dr. Maxfield

[@hellostina]

I’m not always super psyched over Hyram, but I do like a couple of his products. I really appreciate the way you’ve reviewed them!

[@NMG722]

"I read a lot but a don't talk to a lot of people..." that's me too 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 On a side note: there are tons of skincare products and brands in the market, we as individuals and consumers decide what to try, however, we also should be accountable and responsible to do our own research and based on our values buy what is best for us. I watched many of his videos, and yes, currently the speech has changed (usage of added fragrance, %s, ethics, etc) but he has never been my "go to" source of facts and information. No, I will not buy his products because I have a clear view of my values and what my skin needs, that been said, I truly wish him good luck and success with his brand, ...with everything tbh. And again, each of us as individuals are responsible to do our homework, there are many sources in youtube, IG, etccc from real professionals and don't get me wrong, I understand many feel betrayed, but hey, if you were using his prior-brand videos as your only source for knowledge, then you need to re-think again your priorities and accountability for your decisions on skincare.

[@habituallinestepper8839]

Sick of the virtue signaling myself. And I’m sick of companies lecturing me about things unasked for

[@yasssgawwwd5643]

Dr. Dray is the only Dermatologist I trust. She has Zero bias.

[@andersj91]

You should think about what you're saying here. Everyone has biases - I appreciate that these guys openly state theirs and still try to be accurate and honest. You just frankly don't know what Dr. Dray's biases are if you say she has none. **This comment brought to you by a guy who is somewhat biased against Dr. Dray due to her complete and utter inability to be concise (she VERY obviously does not do as much pre shoot prep work as these guys and ends up wandering/monologuing/repeating herself a lot), as well as frankly not being the biggest fan of her voice.

[@rohanrash953]

@@andersj91 for me u have some real shitty reasons to not like someone...& All of that sounds like ur personal problem. May be if u keep that urself u can go places

[@bebbykhan7919]

I have to agree. I thought even Dr Dray was being hesitant to criticise the products too much but it's incredibly honest in comparison to all of the other reviews I've seen.

[@altheanicolequerubin3764]

Check Dr. Shereen Idriss too. She's hilarious and brutally honest.

[@TC-ku4vv]

@@andersj91 I agree. I find her hard to listen to as well. She just needs a good editor. I really love Beauty Within's format and graphics. Although I know they aren't qualified so I take it with a grain of salt. The info is just easier to absorb than lecture-style.

[@Lazybeautycare]

🤑 KEY TAKE AWAY: You are paying for the “sustainability” aspect and to profit someone who believes in sustainability!🤑

[@lyubo_stan]

I hope this is not sarcasm

[@Lazybeautycare]

@@lyubo_stan not sarcasm. This was truly the easy I interpreted the review of this line.

[@annibunny5968]

@@Lazybeautycare maybe its more expensive because of sustainable sourcing?

[@lyubo_stan]

@@Lazybeautycare I cannot understand what you’re saying sorry

[@elopix234]

Yeah let’s ignore all the sustainability master programs in Europe because sustainability is a hoax and not scientifically backed 😂 because like COVID it’s something only a sheep believes in, right? 🤡

[@ViardotVSGrisi]

I find this whole deal raises more questions about the Inkey list than Hyram. I can’t blame a 20 something for not turning down that check. This whole thing is a great segway for the Inkey List to raise their prices for new products while at the same time opening up a line with more complicated formulations. Add Hyram’s groupies and stir. I see you, Inkey List.

[@Doctorly]

Not familiar with any of the inner workings behind the scenes but this seems like something that would make sense for Inkey from a business perspective. The prices are unsustainably low unless they get bought out by a bigger company (like The Ordinary did). I would not be surpised if Inkey used this momentum to raise their prices and increase the complexity of their formulas to target a more mature age group

[@ViardotVSGrisi]

@@Doctorly this will all become part of a Netflix series one day. I predict the show will be called “Irritated”. Episode 1 NOTurium. Episode 2 Beet the benzene: The SPF Saga. Episode 3 Oochie Bakoochi oil? The final word from Dr Dray. Episode 4: Shamesless.

[@Doctorly]

@@ViardotVSGrisi I’m a fan of Susan Yara, Hyram, and Dr. Dray but I’d be willing to host this Netflix series 🤣🤣

[@ViardotVSGrisi]

@@Doctorly we would have it no other way!

[@paulaarizona9108]

@@ViardotVSGrisi I can't stop laughing just imagining the episodes!! Thanks for the grins!

[@i-zachlim6085]

The name of the brand "selfless by hyram" itself already a major turn off for me. All these gimmick in naming and skin care line are just to promote the influencer to make a big buck. I can't go through first 5 min of his videos for some reason. Never liked him. Never will.

[@MiaLakshmiNamboothiripad]

Dr. Shah there is a huge positivity around you. Meeting you once is one of my bucket lists.

[@cash4859]

I refuse to buy any influencer skincare because there are products from Walmart that fulfill all my needs and are dermatologist approved so why waste the money???

[@kaylaannstation2740]

always remember that tested by dermatologist and dermatologist approved is different

[@delanosmall6912]

Please, tell us the truth Dr Shah! We trust you like the good physician you are. You can’t disappoint me now

[@omarpierre249]

I do not trust hyram at all

[@silviafarfallina]

I love Hyram, I really do. But the first ads that showed kids from third world countries gave me awful white savior vibes. I hope Hyram can move away from that. Its probably not his fault but whoever edited those videos.

[@productofthe80s61]

Wasn’t Hyram just doing adds for Curology?

[@meganz020]

Y’all would complain if he didn’t do anything, either. What makes you happy? Jesus.

[@silviafarfallina]

@@meganz020 white savior complex involves using images of less fortunate people to make money and paint yourself as a hero. Its not hard to avoid that. Its sad you and others think its fine to use people as objects. This is why Critical Race theory is important.

[@sunsundks3891]

if it was a black person doing that would it be just savior ? Like is it impossible that someone tries to do something good without reason beinv apearing like a hero but mire to sensitise people? Okay

[@ajae...]

The children were from Africa. According to his website it's a small country in southern Africa. There is no place called the third world.

[@sunvavachi]

The products look good however it seems like everyone is making a brand nowadays and people are confused what to get. Dermatology is a hot market now! Wishing Hyram the best.

[@jackieoprean]

Sounded really bias. The retinol will show little to no results! It is not medical grade or a prescription every dermatologist mentions that when they speak about retinol

[@Masked_muscle_mommy]

personally I dont like him NOW because he was already just another yter who was making a brand off of a hobby (something hes not technically qualified to teach) which i shrugged off because his videos were decent quality but he also acts like he's poor asf despite previously living in hawaii and being a millionaire. He ALSO throws "bitch" around a lot like its endearing which is weird but I digress. Now that hes made a brand from a hobby as complex as skincare, its disappointing because I remember when he used to bag on people for making skincare brands despite not being an est or derm

[@andrewwilton5017]

not so selfless after all.

[@65NART]

I don’t need someone like Hyram trying to preach to me about sustainability and other environmental factors. If I wanted that I’d stick with Ms Paltrow believe you me. I don’t like him; the fact that he over dramatisises things and puts himself on a pedestal re his knowledge of skincare. He is not an expert, not in the slightest. Influencer maybe. Of course you are going to like his line, you are both friends regardless of what you say. And this bit of bringing about social change? What change. Charity begins at home.

[@65NART]

@@kea8349 you are spot on. The dear Dermatologist who put up this video sure, other derms sure. I may not necessarily agree with them but they know their stuff but “that kid” is a horse of a different mule. And his followers not all are equally as misinformed and vociferous in their opinions as he is.

[@SparklinYoga]

It is true that launching a skincare line is not sustainable BUT if it has success it will send a huge message to all skincare brands who don’t give a f. about environment. I am gonna support it for this reason, hoping to see more responsibility from other brands

[@sindhuarvapalli]

Why are these people not talking about the price? 😕 damn they are hefty 🥲

[@sunsundks3891]

Not the most expensive, but like, if a part of that money really goes elsewhere its normal that the product has that price

[@berlineczka]

@@sunsundks3891 Honestly, it makes more sense to buy the cheaper product and donate directly to the organisation the more expensive product claims to support. Not only it will likely cost you less, but also you will be sure thatthe organisation actually got your money. And bonus: you can deduct it from your taxes.

[@Catb3333]

@@berlineczka Yeah sure, like everone is going to actually do that! C'mon...

[@mattymariah]

The highest priced product is $30. That’s very inexpensive for a prestige skincare line. And proceeds are being donated. Chill out.

[@sindhuarvapalli]

What is the special ingredient that is costing that much? 🤔

[@hyacinthus6824]

I really love the videos in this channel because of how informative it is. But this video in particular seems a bit biased based on his friendship with Hyram. While not lying or saying anything misleading, he soften the blows on the things that are receiving criticisms and needs to be criticized

[@Doctorly]

I think that’s a fair assessment of this review - the products do have effective ingredients, and I wanted to focus most on who these products would be best for so that people could make informed purchases!

[@ericawatkins8360]

These skincare videos are the reason I ended up with a bathroom FULL of skincare waste that will contribute to our planets demise 😂😂😂😂😂. SO NO... I will not be buying a skincare line from an unlicensed, non-medical professional, content creator. Sorry. 😬😬😬 But hey, he’s on the up & up. Good for Hyram. Surprised at the small amount of product for prices though. That’s weird.

[@xristinarose2409]

Well tbh, that s kinda on you. I watched Hyram as well and for the first time in my life I bought a moisturizer that doesnt irritate my skin thanks to him because all the previous i had to throw away due to allergic reactions so Hyram saved me money and wasted products. But I only bought 1 and I'm very happy with it. You dont have to buy more and more you know

[@RCBlooming]

I mean I probably won't be buying any of his products cause I'm a cheap person, but he worked with an established brand which means he worked with actual professionals, so I can't hold it against him

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

@@RCBlooming So he worked with the brand.... He brought nothing but the consumers to the business plan. Such an obvious situation.

[@ericawatkins8360]

@@xristinarose2409 - oh I agree, I’m 100% responsible for my little skincare, let’s call it “hobby”- that got way out of hand during quarantine last year... that’s why I like to make jokes about it.

[@vanessac1721]

Are you really surprised at the price point? He shills YTTP.

[@rayradiance666]

Basically a praise Hyram video

[@kassiek6896]

“I read a lot but don’t talk to a lot of people. So I don’t know how to say things in real life.” Especially in the medical field haha!

[@annscott1965]

Love you guys! I have changed my skincare routine based on your advice. I started a retinol routine. I am 56 years old and am hoping to see some difference in a few months. Thanks for the honest opinions you give in your reviews. Keep up the wonderful videos!

[@Mellyouttaphase]

So did you see a difference yet? I am 38 and just starting and feel like I am way too late to the party!

[@noyaclyst2437]

How is it going?

[@MoralesGirl4]

Eh, never really took Hyrams advice anyway, would prefer the advice from actual Dermatologists. Luckily for me theres so many on KZbin.

[@stephaniem5188]

Amen

[@mammananna1705]

I only know Dr. Dray aside from this channel, do you have any other suggestions?

[@Ella-el3lt]

@@mammananna1705 Dr. Vanita Rattan. She's awesome, especially for hyperpigmentation. Super honest, and she doesn't do any brand deals or monetize videos.

[@almag0410]

“I don’t know how to say things in real life” lol! Relatable.

[@fionac3578]

Ummm you didn't actually give your personal opinion on the performance of the products..

[@edgarjrmalinao8173]

Hyram who? Just an influencer and not a Board Certified Dermatologist? Nawp.🙅

[@meganz020]

You don’t have to be a derm to make a skincare line… the vast majority of brands out there aren’t made by derms.

[@edgarjrmalinao8173]

@@meganz020 nope. Vast majority of brands that endorsed and owned by so-called "influencers" are formulated by Board Certified people who are very much capable of making one 😏

[@Momofukudoodoowindu]

@@edgarjrmalinao8173 YUP! I wish an influencer would one day showcase all of the hardworking chemists behind the scenes who generated the products.

[@edgarjrmalinao8173]

@@Momofukudoodoowindu TRUE😅 but unfortunately there will always be some foolish people who would rather purchased skinlines from "influencers" rather than to those who are legit and specializes skincare

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

@@Momofukudoodoowindu I would love to see that.

[@lauromero129]

"Maracuja" (maracuyá) is passion fruit :D

[@sirennem.6890]

yes, its Maracuya, not Maracuja

[@MarjaCamargo]

It depends, in Portuguese, we pronounce something like: “ma.ra.ku.jah”. 😌

[@kavyaganguri5702]

I was waiting for a dermatologist review of this

[@rm6700]

Well we have to wait more for an unbiased one

[@doodoo7207]

Can wait dr dray review just like naturium got 😂

[@sanskritibarman4928]

@@doodoo7207 yeah I swear I'll only lisn to her when it comes celebrity/infuencer skincare lines. Even Cassandra was supporting naturium which claims to be fragrance free and yet has essential oils or extracts from citrus fruits that can be potentially irritating. Although I love Cass cuz she is not so pressed about fragrance in skincare as it doesn't really harm the majority (again I have nthg against fragrance but Dr. Dray is looking out for the worst case scenarios although fragrance to irritation affects a small proportion of the population).

[@deecal4104]

Best review on letting us know on how to actually use the products! 👏🏼 Glad I watched. Regretful I purchased the complete set before watching as I definitely don’t need the oily skin products 😕

[@lonelyboyxo]

He could say that he is Hiram's older brother and i would believe him.

[@parvathaaa]

aw are you lonely

[@mirinaxo1663]

I love the Inky list but I’m not sure how I feel about this launch. I do like the brand supporting the environment but I feel like Hyram is very overrated, no shade just being honest 🤷🏼‍♀️ I

[@lucybelle5459]

He's an influencer that call himself a "skin care professional", but he's not a Dermatologist or an esthetician. 🙄

[@mcry2024]

I will NEVER understand why people listen to that kid about his THOUGHTS on skincare??!!!!🤦🏻‍♀️

[@TischTosh]

I'm not buying it, seems like a pretentious bag of same-old-same-old. , Gave up on Hyram a year ago (talking about how hard he's working and how tired he was); he's a salesman. I mean that's fine, do you-- but not for me. Love Doctorly and James Welsh.

[@teletubbiestunetwister9570]

Hyram is the Shane Dawson of skinfluencers. Poor poor (but not poor... very rich indeed) me.

[@sab4895]

I don't buy anything from influencers...if it's not backed up by a physician I'm not spending my hard earned paycheck to make some kid rich.

[@alexturlais8558]

I have no doubt he's sincere but the ethics side of things seems a bit iffy. If you cared about the environment, why make containers with such little product in them? And how is giving the customers money to charity really doing good? If you charge $5 more for a product just to give $5 to charity, that's not really the company doing anything. It seems more like marketing than about doing good.

[@arctic2921]

If only he were giving $5 to charity - that isn't even the case unfortunately. They only have the "ambition" to donate 10%. This is hidden on his website - of course he forgot to mention it in any of his videos 🙃

[@jelena27]

It indeed sounds very performative with a lots of greenwashing.

[@sunscreenhoarder6558]

@@arctic2921 to put that into context, we're talking $2-3 dollars per product *potentially possibly maybe* going to charity at the end of the year. on products that probably only cost about that much to produce. the profit they're making on this is massive.

[@Jexter-wl4op]

Well this is the first review without even trying the product. The skincare and makeup youtubers are really not different

[@heba30003]

Your friendship with Hyram gives 0 credibility to this review...sorry to say that. Dr. Dray didn't seem very enthusiastic about his line and she gave trustworthy reason

[@michellemar89]

Dr. Dray doesn't seem enthusiastic about anything. She basically said the same thing as Dr. Shah if you actually listen to the words and not the tone of voice. Both were biased by their association with Hyram