Response to Adam Conover’s Tweet | Hospitals & Mammograms | Wednesday Checkup

After the last Real Doctor Reacts to Adam Ruins everything there were many questions and critiques of my stances. Also Adam did a great job or replying to my video via twitter (link below) so I thought that this is the best way to continue the conversation. Keep in mind that if you missed the last video you should watch it here: • Real Doctor Reacts to ...
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[@VinaELee]

Not only did Doctor Mike clarify his points to avoid misunderstandings, he also teaches us how to handle criticism and teaches us the benefits of accepting criticism, etc.

[@kraven4444]

He shouldn't have to defend himself against such a person like Adam.

[@fanOmry]

@@kraven4444 Agreed. Adam is beneath him. I should be trolling saying this, and of course not being litteral. But Yeah. Dr. Mike has proven himself very often. Adam has so much politics in his videos. With Ideas that.. yeah. I have little intellect based respect for the guy. Not to mention. He's a serious Educator or Entertainer completely by what is convenient at the moment.

[@Stargazer3147]

yet Adam still managed to misunderstand some of Dr Mike's points. Or possibly simply lied about them to win the argument. I wouldn't have the patience not to simply point it out. Hell, even in the initial video Dr Mike was extra understanding of Adam's.

[@andpark1566]

​@Balto the Wolf , yep to be honest.

[@tonyoso1391]

He still messed up saying that the focus should not be on profits. He himself said administration fees are to high and to many accountants are staff. The only reason you have that is to make sure you are making profits! I love his channel but he sounded really dumb arguing that.

[@Mysticmanaged]

Dude I just wanna say, I have so much respect for you. You're a genuine role model for an aspiring person interested in healthcare.

[@rachelrachel4922]

He actually increased my respect for doctors 100 times over tbh

[@Mysticmanaged]

Rachel Rachel Yeah he does wonders for the public image of healthcare. When you’re in hospitals it feels like you’re in a system and its hard to find doctors like Mike!

[@PiercedMine]

If you like Dr. Mike you should check out zdogg MD! They did a collab. Zdogg goes a little more in depth but he covers SO MUCH of what healthcare workers actually do and deal with.

[@DodderingOldMan]

He's a genuine role model for anyone aspiring to be a decent human being, too.

[@chelsennn]

You kinda look like him lol

[@LivingInTragedy]

One main reason I subscribed to this channel is the way mike explains topics. He tries his hardest to put this information in an unbiased and simple to understand way, something that is very rare on KZbin. Absolutely love this channel and everything mike stands for ❤️

[@wxtherplays3184]

This guy takes criticism so well. He doesn't sound defensive, yet he defends his opinions well. I think that Dr. Mike is very correct in his rebuttal, and if I was Adam, I would either apologize, or... well, at least acknowledge that his statements are correct.

[@darksungate]

He kinda did, he didn’t specifically specify this but he did do an Adam ruins himself were he did acknowledge that he makes mistakes and that he is biased

[@Gamerad360]

@@darksungate He makes a ton more mistakes then he addresses, like Christopher Columbus.

[@mihailmilev9909]

@@Gamerad360 what was the mistake?

[@publiclydeceased7630]

@@mihailmilev9909 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHbaaZZsidKtfck&vl=en If you have time I would watch this video. It does a pretty good job digging into some of Adam's mistakes and the mistakes of others who have talked about Christopher Columbus before.

[@martinessentials162]

Tbh Doctors do need to be a little chill

[@B_B_Wes]

Kudos to Dr. Mike for properly handling internet beef the same way he would handle a misinformed patient. 😂

[@soratruekid]

Patronizingly?

[@copbphoenix]

@@soratruekid It's a fine line between "educating" and "patronizing". Here? I think he fell right on the line, unfortunately.

[@IngeniousIgneous]

Sar'ras Fae'lynn I would disagree? As a medical professional I’d say he has an established right(?) to his tone when speaking to a layperson I think he spoke with authority without being condescending. Furthermore, he invited and applauded reasonable public discussion 9/10 response imo Edit: when I say “established right to his tone”: He has both the medical knowledge as well as real world experience to inform his points (though admittedly less so on the topic of cost)

[@tankofnova9022]

to call this beef may be an over statement. There isn't much disagreement to be had here.

[@dw2843]

@@soratruekid How was he patronizing? I didn't pick up on that at all.

[@kansas8152]

You are one of the most honest and genuine KZbinrs I’ve come across..too bad for the people that don’t see that in you.

[@DriscolDevil]

"Doctor DESTROYS critics by being humble and honest." There you go bud, fixed that title for you.

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Dear lord, that's only a fix if you're a total drama queen. Which to be fair, apparently 90% of people who write headlines and KZbin video titles now are.

[@DriscolDevil]

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4usg2Cbj8mpfc0

[@DriscolDevil]

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated no offense, I feel like we agree. I was making a joke about clickbait titles, that's it.

[@martingriff101]

I am so glad he does not use titles like that because when I see titles like that then I call the person who make that title a a£$%h$%e. Realises now was a joke but my point stands of what I feel about those titles

[@NJ-wb1cz]

Eh, his position is still shifty. Saying that hospital prices aren't the problem, and then saying that hospitals employ too much unneeded staff, makes little sense. Because those prices are spent enriching unneeded staff! He merely provides an explanation to Adam's point, not contradicting him in any way. And saying that hospital prices aren't the main problem while his own examples of supposedly larger problems merely create those inflated hospital prices, is either disingenuous, or simply argument for argument's sake.

[@ninaalbrechtsen3814]

Hey Dr. Mike I hope Adam understood your point about mammograms. Mammograms and screening here in Denmark has made breastcancer cases in later stages decline. But I thought that Adam could just have included the patient/girl saying “okay so mammograms are bad and I should NOT get them” then he could correct that statement and tell all the great facts about mammograms.

[@sayaleerakh3175]

THIS is how you take criticism. Having an educated healthy discussion and try and meet in the middle. I really think Adam was quite rude instead of trying to understand what Dr. Mike was saying.

[@Brennan.P]

criticism today is mostly taking place against other people's opinion. Medicine is an objective science so it is easier to defend. Most people today get lost in figuring out what is fact and opinion.

[@nathanbueche8429]

Adam Conover's show is biased. His writers give him a narrative to push. You can find many channels that break down the points in the show, revealing the bias. Or go watch Joe Rogan's show with Adam.

[@joshuawhittick4496]

thisssss

[@clydefrosch]

@@Brennan.P objective might go a little too far. many objective truths in medicine are just thousands of people quoting the same text that no one bothered to check in a century. a lot in medicine is just peddled by big pharma too. and they make decisions based on money. and its cheaper to just add like one useless molecule to the same old painkiller with the same old sideeffects to keep a fresh patent, than exploring actual new painkillers.

[@clydefrosch]

@@nathanbueche8429 of course, everything is biased. yet they still give you all the sources to check for yourself, unlike so many others, they don't just pull stuff out of their ass.

[@suchnothing]

As an average woman, I totally agree that Adam's segment on mammograms could scare women away from getting them. It came off like they were saying mammograms are useless and even harmful, and arent necessary. Then at the very end they were like "oh yeah by the way you should still get them." Like hello?

[@jleemar22]

I agree. Definitely a turn off for mammograms and I'd like to think of myself as someone who weighs up both sides

[@commentcopbadge6665]

Jennifer Marshall *weighs

[@jleemar22]

@@commentcopbadge6665 haha yeah noticed the minute I revisited the comment . My bad

[@theforeverfalling]

Inebriatd awww you’re trying so hard to pick a political fight 😂 it’s almost cute

[@suchnothing]

@Inebriatd wth was that word salad? What does any of that have to do with the discussion being had here? I'm so confused lol

[@ayragon]

I went and got my first mammogram after seeing your video, and paid the extra $40 for the fancy 3D images. Good news, no issues, even better news, it was a wicked cool machine and I’m happy with the whole experience. Side note, it was uncomfortable but not painful or awkward. The technician explained everything and was amused by my obvious excited geeking out over the machine and process. Thank you for speaking about the possible misunderstanding of the episode and for responding to these tweets in such a direct and mature way. Cheers to you!

[@malindastevens1016]

I didn't find it painful either, slight discomfort but I've felt far worse in my life. As I commented though those machines are NOT made for short people though lol, it was more painful on my calves having to stand on my tiptoes through the entire process lmfao!

[@xzonia1]

@@malindastevens1016 When I had mine done last year, the technician lowered the machine to my height because I said it was uncomfortable where it was, so they can be adjusted some. I'm 5'6", though. If they adjusted it and you were still too short, then they should have gotten a step stool for you to stand on, in the least. I couldn't have done it if I'd had to stand on my tiptoes! My back is too messed up for that. Lol

[@malindastevens1016]

@@xzonia1 I'm only 4'10" lol and yea I have a bad back as well and sadly they didn't get me a stool. The lady adjusted the machine down as far as she could but it wouldn't go down quite far enough

[@hannap8052]

I'm happy everything's ok

[@malindastevens1016]

@@hannap8052 Yea everything came out alright, it was mainly a just to be safe thing because of a swollen lymph node, though I'm very near the age for regular screenings (will be 40 this August)

[@jayjayjacobs3845]

I ... Im shocked,i mean i am huge fans of both of these people but the way how adam changed dr mike's words in his tweets to make it seems as if dr mike claims hospitals are above critisism and so forth It completely blows my mind,it feels like he takes dr mike's words and twisting it to his will

[@arcticpangolin3090]

Cor VD It’s really just a strawman of mike’s actual position and just straight up intellectually dishonest. Bad Adam.

[@thebygoneking]

If you look into Adam a little bit, you’ll find that this kind of behavior is extremely common for him. Made me stop watching his content.

[@neontime8507]

The Bygone King same. I’m always baffled by unearned arrogance, not that I think anyone should be arrogant, but given his humble beginnings at collegehumor, it’s a bit odd for someone like Adam to think so highly of himself

[@alexthompson942]

Anytime someone makes legitimate criticisms of a video of his, which there are many, he gets butthurt and name drops people. He uses facts in a way to shape his narrative and advance it when he should be presenting facts and context to the relevant facts to provide non-biased info.

[@ptpumpkin4227]

adam is like my mother

[@ryeman7980]

As a nurse I definitely agree with Mike, its not so much the content but the focus that is the issue with Adam's video. Its videos like Adams that lead to the idea that hospitals are filled with greedy people trying to turn a profit and lead to mistrust. Really most of the people a patient will meet (Nurses, Doctors, Case Managers) are actively trying to make the whole process cheaper for the patient and are on the patients side. At least that is my experience with my hospital.

[@xger21]

I feel like a not insignificant reasons for this back and forth is that Adam seemed more interested in critiquing for profit hospitals generally (which is valid, even if it could have been clearly/more articulate on that) whereas Mike dealt with the reality that we have.

[@RavenMistwolf]

Jordy Diaz I’m sure there are people who don’t differentiate and thus blame the staff. I have found that most people are really bad at actually placing the blame correctly (like if their food comes out wrong at a restaurant and they blame the waiter). I think it’s largely because they seldom SEE the person/people who should be blamed and want to have a face to put with the blame. None of it is right and they definitely shouldn’t blame the staff, but I don’t doubt there are those who do.

[@nhall1270]

Woo, well now I know.

[@pixie89]

*Oversimplification can be dangerous sometimes* - Dr. Mike

[@mcastillo830]

Pixie basically if ur doing an essay for school Edit: also comprehensive tests

[@itssssstef]

So my reasoning is dangerous sometimes

[@goodolmeplant5809]

@@itssssstef over reasoning, there is a thing called being "over rational" y'know.

[@jessicamccorkle692]

Adam: combativly puffs chest Dr mike : chest bump bro! Adam: confused Great job Dr.Mike-drop. Accepting criticism, clarifying point on which you two agree and disagree, and thanking Adam for his critique of your critique. Perfect.

[@apimpnamedslickback5936]

True king other guy is lost

[@jessicavsbridget]

I've never trusted someone that I do not know as much as I trust Dr. Mike. He is so genuine, so transparent, and so gracious and classy. It's so obvious he truly cares about public health and sharing truthful and factual advice.

[@Bravo-gw8th]

He also thinks you are an idiot lol. Congrats!

[@ANtroposo524]

Its like doctor mike is the kind of doctor we don't deserve, but clearly the one we need.

[@rachelrachel4922]

"Being a primary care doctor, I have a pulse" - Doctor Mike, 2019

[@alexs5968]

Being a dead man, i don't

[@DoctorMike]

haha I'm going to run on that =]

[@darrenyeoh9000]

Someone needs to make a T-shirt of that and send it to him

[@mrgallbladder]

Well... In that case, you, sir, are fully qualified to practice medicine! Haha

[@franciscolaurean8550]

I too have a pulse :D

[@NekoMouser]

I used to love Adam's sketches and show, but the more I watch, the more I started realizing how biased and ill-targeted it could be. Not just on this, but all topics. I think it is a good idea and often well-done, but the bias is clear. Not just some political bias, but often Adam's show over-simplifies ideas and ignores historical context. As Dr. Mike says, it's not that mammograms were over-used, per se, but that was the best research of the time and the recommendations have changed over time with new studies and information. Also, like Dr. Mike mentioned, Adam's work seems to boil things down to the lowest hanging fruit and misses larger-scale nuance and more complex factors that influence what he is discussing. I haven't written him off, but with time I've come to take Adam's show with a lot bigger grain of salt than I used to. It's a starting point for more research more than a true clarification and final word on most topics.

[@Gambit9020]

You should check out his debate with Joe Rogan on transgenders in women's sport. Part of where I figured out Adam had strong bias and ignored biological facts.

[@doms.6701]

@@Gambit9020 and where we learned he can't hold an oppinion without checking with someone first

[@savannahkat4093]

Adam also very clearly does not respond well to criticism (based on the intentional misinterpretation of Mike’s points in these tweets, imo), even when it is presented in the most genuine possible way. I’ve always felt a little leery of his show because of how dramatic and oversimplified it is, but this makes it a hard no for me.

[@6thgraderfriends]

I think what would help if the episodes were longer, a full hour rather than half an hour so the topics can really be discussed and people could really get educated on what's out there.

[@NekoMouser]

@@6thgraderfriends I agree in theory, but I think part of his shtick is fast, witty, and meme-able. A longer show would be more accurate and more informative, but probably less popular given the audience they're aiming at.

[@vitoriaLouise15]

Dr. Mike couldn't hold back the chuckle at the " I respectfully reject your criticism." Also, regular mammograms which lead to early detection save many lives, including my mother's, so please always speak out on them.

[@kev3d]

I'm glad your mom is okay!

[@LEFT4BASS]

Mad respect to Dr. Mike. In the original react video and in this video, he was polite, and presented a well-informed, intelligent opinion. He never disparaged Adam. I’ve liked a lot of Adam Ruins Everything, but Adam’s reaction was a let-down. Adam struck me as as the type who would take criticism well and be happy to hear other perspectives, but his tweet came of as snarky and defensive. I hope for a better response next time. Good job Dr. Mike.

[@YunisRajab]

Watch Adam on the Joe Rogan podcast and you'll never want to see him again

[@jasonmillsom2981]

Watch Joe Rogan interview to see the real let down

[@edd542]

I followed some of the sources the show uses for information and it really ruined the show for me. The show has a really heavy left wing bias and as a result they cherry pick evidence and never offer contradictory evidence for some of the topics on the show.

[@charlotterobinson6044]

Did he really come out here and say "I reject this criticism"

[@rimfire8217]

HaHa.

[@robertjackson8790]

This is one of the best responses to critique that I have ever seen. He acknowledges what is true while respectfully disagreeing at the same time and also remains polite. This is a master class in conversation and response. There are also a few things to be learned here in the field of debate even though I know Dr. Mike was not debating Adam. (If it were though Dr. Mike takes the win) But again the video was well done.

[@LesAnderson]

Dr. Mike keepin’ it classy (as usual). Seriously there’s no reason to not love this guy

[@rexana_rexana]

Lol, adam kinda sounded butt hurt

[@blackbird7781]

He did sound butt hurt as hell

[@tommyellis7728]

He always is when someone smarter than him debates him and debunks his arguments.

[@KlintKaras]

He's still sore from Joe rogan verbally spanking him.

[@SwordTune]

Tends to happen, when one is butt hurt.

[@christinev5089]

His ego was definitely bruised! He missed a great opportunity for growth & learning something new

[@TheHDStation]

Doctor Mike, If a producer comes up to you and asks if you would like a daytime television show. Please say NO! You're good where you're at. Buuuut, if Netflix comes to you... maybe... I could see you with an informative and interesting show. Just don't become a hack like Dr. Oz.

[@kouseiblack8289]

Not even netflix. The second you sign on with a producer you leash yourself to demands to become bigger and more successful at any cost. The self-propelled nature of a youtube channel let's him stay focused on the entire reason the show exists. As soon as he signs on with a producer he's going to be pressed into slanted and click-baity topics. I actually think that's what happened to Adam, the kinds of nuance that Dr. Mike presents does not speak to the lowest common denominator and thus isn't efficient at drawing in large audiences.

[@sangwoohan1177]

Netflix is going to be bankrupt with Disney coming in anyway.

[@tjl102]

lols probs not netflix worked its way into our hearts, and groins (netflix and chill) disney and chill is something to do with your kids, not a lover.

[@eagle3676]

@@tjl102 actually Disney alone won't kill it. But WB, DC, HBO, Disney and everyone else having their own streaming services will make them all cable again essentially and that is what could kill Netflix. That's why Netflix is laser focused on originals. Originals will keep people on a service or bring them there. Like cobra Kai and Wayne and Mind field for KZbin premium or Doom Patrol, swamp thing, young justicem Harley Quinn, stargirl and titans for DC universe

[@Zlittlepenguin]

Kousei Black I dunno, Netflix is pretty hands off about their shows. That’s why there’s so much crazy shit on there like black mirror. You think netflix forced black mirror to be 3 episodes long for season 5? You think three episodes is going to take in the dough? Nah, that’s why shows like “norm has a show” (or whatever) we’re allowed to come off of KZbin and basically be the exact same thing on Netflix.

[@serenkuner1280]

As a scientist, I can say that you are unbiased as much as a scientist can get, can't say the same thing about Adam though. You may be the only Doctor that I actually believe you wanting me to educate myself is a genuine and heartfelt recommendation. As a genetic/bioenginerring senior year student I always ask my doctor based on what I know and they always seem overwhelmed and get angry when I point out simple facts that they don't account for... I can also understand how Adam's advisor was biased during the development of this episode since she is probably more frustrated about the subject than us, I believe that's why she let them be more agressive with mammograms. On top of that, my grandmother had breast cancer (she's ok now) and hates mammograms which scares me because I'm in the risk group and after seeing Adam's video i thought of the following things; 1. Gosh, I don't really need a mammograms since it's not really a reliable method of detection! 2. Is the survival rate so high because most of the patients who are treated don't actually have cancer? Do i actually have a less chance in survival then I thought before? The first idea I had was positive for me because I'm scared of mammograms, and the second is depressing... Which is why I am glad that you clarified the subject for me, someone who is at least familiar with the subject at some level, and those who don't have an education to weigh in what Adam was trying to say.

[@awlabrador]

I agree that some doctors get really defensive, particularly when dealing with patients who are themselves more knowledgeable than average. However, there are also doctors who, if they know you are a scientist, for example, treat you with reciprocal respect, like a colleague albeit from another field. I find this is more likely to be true of specialists. You just have to let them know, preferably in a collegial way instead of a haughty way. Yes, some of the treatment is undoubtedly "good bedside manner" to help the patient relax, as well as solid medical practice in discussing things completely with patients, but I like to give credit for some genuine respect as well, based on some of the longer conversations I've had with them. It also helps if you can develop a long-term relationship, so you get to know each other better than just a doctor on one side and a patient with symptoms on the other, but that obviously doesn't happen with every doctor and patient. As for Adam, I stopped watching him early on, for ideological, insufficiently analyzed shows like that one.

[@peterparker6956]

How come everyone responds to this comment with a paragraph? I’m kidding.

[@alexisriggs9946]

I loved this episode. No offense to Adam but I think your videos are a lot more precise at getting towards the issue. I love the Adam Ruins Everything show and its a great intro into different topics, but the average person doesn’t continue their knowledge on the topic with research and sometimes episodes can lead people to wrong conclusions. Maybe my mind works differently from others, but I have thoroughly enjoyed how you give information. Thanks Doctor Mike!

[@Glitterbeauties]

Someone can’t take criticism...and I’m not talking about Dr. Mike ..you would think he would be able to..... Specially since his whole show is based on criticizing EVERYTHING and all 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️😒😒🤦🏻‍♀️

[@jacobhamilton2473]

Lol. I'm not sure if Adam's response is ironic, but it is sad.

[@jacobhamilton2473]

Watch the Joe Rogan interview with Adam. Its pretty telling as go Adam's perspective.

[@seigeengine]

@@jacobhamilton2473 Ugh. I really don't want to watch that, because I really dislike Joe Rogan, and it seems from what I've heard that Adam completely fucked up discussing an important issue presently under attack by anti-science troglodyte cultists. Probably going to have to though... and I mean, It's Adam Conover. It's probably not a repeat of the Bill Nye thing where the bitching was 100% in the wrong.

[@clydefrosch]

they literally had an episode criticizing their own show.

[@daegrun]

Dr. Mike doubled down on a couple of things that were false but was very pleasant about it. Yep.

[@445luana]

I think the way Adam talked about mamograms sounded like they were a bad thing. Saying stuff like "The more mamograms you have the more false positives you can get" can scare people and make them fell that it's better not to do a mamogram even if you need it.

[@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult]

yes. Adam really missed the opportunity to grow with constructive criticism here.

[@loser-by-choice1269]

Right? I'd rather a false positive than not finding it in time.

[@NitroRonin23]

He still wasn't wrong! The more mamagrams you get, the more likely you are to receive a false report that says you have cancer. Theyre are still good though. Everything in moderation.

[@tactlessraccoon5280]

There is also the issue of probability. The more times you do something the more times you can get it wrong, but it doesn’t increase the chance of you getting it wrong. It’s like flipping a coin. The more times you flip it the more times you’ll land on tails.

[@captaincc5700]

Doctor Mike is a big ball of positive energy.

[@paranoiarpincess]

I feel like some of the things Adam said, come from a defensive, reactionary place of "lets create controversy, to attract more attention." He seemed to ignore your followup to most of your points, and simply attacked the points as though it was all you provided. Example: the mammogram thing. You had already mentioned that the multitude of mammograms in the past was entirely due to lack of knowledge. The people of then just learned mammograms help! Therefore; mammograms all the time! And when we learned oh, maximum amount of mammogams = unnecessary, we started doing that. And you're reitterating it, it seems, because he entirely ignored that you had previously said that.

[@yattasuccess9212]

I really wished Adam didn't do this on twitter, especially that it will drive way more attention to people who don't have the basic background of Dr. Mike and the video where He reacted, people reading Adam's tweet will already get the impression of what Dr. Mike thought in His reaction video, but it shouldn't since the interpretation in Adam's tweets were insufficient to what Dr. Mike actually said. Therefore creating possibly more controversy in the eyes of the average person reading which Dr. Mike and I'd imagine Adam would rather avoid.

[@dawnmidnightsun2521]

Adam has a good point though. When xrays were first invented people were using them in shoe stores to get "more accurate" sizing. Yes, we now know that xrays can cause additional issues when people get too many. But it is the same with mammograms. When we first got them they were over suggested. Adam is simply pointing out that it was a bad thing and the "truths" that come from that kind of over adverstising can become perminate ones in the minds of the people. We saw it with the engagement ring, that was just a very successful ad. So while he might seem to be critical of it, that is because he knows the over reaching effect that kind of thing can be. Both Dr. Mike and Adam are just trying to point out their viewpoints on a subject based on what they know and are having an intelligent debate.

[@rr2109]

@@dawnmidnightsun2521 The issue for me and I believe Dr. Mike with that though is in the original video they never explicitly clarify that the reason behind those 80's recommendations were based on facts available which insinuates it was done for malicious reasons such as profiting on the expensive x-rays. They both agree on the result but the way it is presented is the problem.

[@dawnmidnightsun2521]

@@rr2109 we have to remember that Adam makes a living off of edgy topics. Yes he has a whole team who collects facts for him, but even they would have biases. So yeah the context can be taken the wrong way. But at the end of the day it is meant to be funny and informative. Just like when Dr.Mike does his show reviews. Education is something everyone should take with a grain of salt. So many take it at face value and don't do their own digging. So yeah, they would have their opinions skewed. But there are more people who are looking deeper into things, because ignorance is only bliss until someone steamrollers over you. At the end of it, yes, some are profiting on it. Ads are MADE to get your attention and convince you to do something or buy something. If they didn't want any profit at all they would spend money advertising. That may not be the goal for all, but it is Definately the goal for enough in this capitalist based society that not all the facts are fully checked before hand. You can tell that from the number of drug recalls or lawsuits.

[@nearlystuck6947]

I personally think Adam just skimmed the video and didnt actually listen to it

[@MattBenicFlintZA]

Classy and rational. Great response and hopefully the start of a larger discussion 👍🏼

[@Yoshimiko951]

I really enjoyed Adam Ruins Everything for a while, 'til one of his episodes really upset me. I'm amazed at how you can stay so calm & collected through this. Good on you, man!

[@wyattwilliams2457]

Which one and if you do not want to to talk about it is fine.

[@ranelgallardo7031]

@@wyattwilliams2457 I assume it might be the hospital one

[@rambomonopoly]

I Love this man! He’s very understanding and compassionate. I have Nothing but respect for what this doctor does! Working alongside MDs and DOs I have a strong gut feeling he is one of the good ones!!!!!

[@alinecabrera4727]

I like how meanwhile the beauty community was crumbling, Dr Mike just uploaded a very respectful response to Adam

[@mikewrites1577]

That's because Doctor Mike is an intelligent and respectful person who is debating with someone rather than causing drama. Meanwhile, the beauty community isn't doing and doesn't seem to be capable of any of the above. It's kind of funny, kind of sad.

[@samanthagalarza3421]

That's the difference between the medical community and the beauty community. Doctors will always be relevant and just want the best for their patients. Beauty influencers make their money off of attention, any publicity is good publicity!

[@caitieeeee]

When is it not crumbling tho lol

[@farahshaumi2827]

Now I know how to properly respond to criticism. Thanks Dr. Mike. Great video as always 👍

[@connergates9605]

Dr. Mike, I’m glad you have the platform you do. I have political aspirations, and I realize that the healthcare system in America is very expensive. I’ve always seen profits as a reason, but not the main reason, and I’ve been called heartless and cruel for not immediately jumping on proposals like price fixing or taxpayer funded universal healthcare. I’m glad that you point out the other factors that are raising costs, because it allows for more productive and less divisive solutions. It’s from watching your videos that I’ve decided if/when I enter the political sphere, I need to sit down with people within the medical field to discuss the best plans, instead of trying to solve the problems with just an outside perspective. Thank you. (I’m 16, btw)

[@reynamoyer2379]

I really like the way you explained why it's so expensive to go to the hospital. I always wondered why and had my own ideas but you cleared it up

[@tealponies2445]

When he said, "I chime in," I instantly thought of I Write Sins Not Tragedies.

[@wheezetube607]

Hola sinner

[@SG89056]

The key difference is, Dr. Mike always cares about presenting the facts rather than promoting his own bias. Adam has never cared about the facts, only about presenting his persona biases as fact.

[@iristorres4176]

Oof dr mike

[@elliehunter4577]

Allergy and immunotherapy video please!!!!!! Ps Love your videos!

[@fitnessmmaplaylists3548]

Yes! Especially immunotherapy related with cancer treatment

[@iluvmusic151]

YESSS

[@RettigJ]

*Ah sh*t here we go again.*

[@elliehunter4577]

BentheCookie thx for catching that!

[@mikemalon3143]

@Ellie Hunter - I agree completely with this comment. Best video suggestion I've seen in a while. I've got stage 4 melanoma that's metastasized into my liver and some spots on my lungs and unfortunately for me immunotherapy, which was the first line of treatment we tried, had zero effect. (Besides giving me the sickness, shortness of breath and weakness that were supposedly rare side effects) lmao. That's just the way medications work with me though...I always get the more rare side effects. Also, another odd thing it did was turn my facial hair from reddish blonde to gray. And the only reason I assume that it was the immunotherapy that caused this is due to the fact that now that I've been off of that for two months and moved into oral chemo the gray is gone. Which I honestly think it's a bummer because I thought it looked quite nice if I say so myself. Lol. I do think that immunotherapy would in fact be a fantastic video as well though. It's a quite interesting treatment prospect that I think needs more eyes on it, despite it still being in quite early stages at the moment.

[@tnils234]

One of the big factors of the exploding cost of healthcare that Dr. Mike talked about, but only briefly, are corporations. Whether it is insurance, medical device manufacturers, or pharmaceuticals all of these corporations have a heavy influence on how price is out of control in healthcare. Talk about trying to turn a profit. I would argue that these businesses sole purpose is to turn a profit, not help people. At least with Hospitals they are trying to help people.

[@lillyshaffer536]

This video really emphasizes just how intelligent and knowledgeable you are. You are so damn well spoken! I love all your videos!

[@CarlosRodriguez-dh7mm]

I like Doctor Mike specifically because he's aware of his biases before he tries to set them aside. Most people simply claim they're unbiased. Everybody's biased. Being aware of this limits the effect of your bias. Edit: Grammar

[@theconvert1208]

To say you know you have a bias and to act with awareness of that bias are two different things. Mike fails that specifically in this video.

[@boigercat]

I love how Mike just destroyed Adam with kindness. I'm sorry Dr Mike I know you prefer civil dialogue but I really don't like Adam

[@kuro.hitsuji]

My 4 year old asked me who you were as I watched this, and I answered "Dr. Mike." He watched a moment, then asked me if you were my teacher. I looked at him and slowly nodded, "... Yes. Yes, he is." So now you're Teacher Dr. Mike 😂

[@imaanahmed4965]

Aww that's sweet 😄

[@roy4173]

Fun fact! Doctorates were originally given to people who teach and medical doctors were equally expected to be a teacher to their patients as much as their health care provider.

[@thetings2868]

That's DOCTOR Professor Mike to you.

[@AnnoyingAsianWitch]

Happy Teachers Day to Mike lol

[@grogu_2003]

I like how Adam says the truth but manipulates info to his favor😂 while Mike is being 100% sincere

[@wonderbreadjumps]

Dunno why I'm just getting this video now; been subscribed for awhile. What you say makes a lot of sense though and I wasn't even against what you're explaining. All info is good to know. Well done doc.

[@jonathanw11]

Adam Conover took a big turn towards 'meh' a long time ago. A number of his episodes are clearly biased and often neglect to include relevant information.

[@JuanGamb]

Adam is a beta Male 👍🏻

[@joncarranzakuh-ran-zah8566]

It's ok to be biased. But Adam is obviously *ONLY* politically motivated. Since his episode on "the wall", 85% of his episodes have been of the "woke" variety. And the problem with his bias is he leaves out critical information in order to fulfill his political leaning.

[@seigeengine]

Nah, it's not politically motivated. Almost none of the episodes since the border security episode have had anything to do with political subjects. Seems to me the likely reality is that you're politically biased, and so frame everything in the context of your deranged world-view.

[@dustinjames1268]

@@seigeengine "Not politically motivated" And "Adam ruins everything" are mutually exclusive. Choose one or the other. You cannot have both.

[@seigeengine]

@@dustinjames1268 Repeating a premise in a sassy manner is not an argument.

[@commonsensespiritualist7809]

Dr. Mike, I watched the episode where you critiqued Adam ruins everything: Hospitals. I agreed with your critique. Especially since I am 55. I regularly put off my mammogram because it hurts so bad that I've sobbed and had panic attacks only to be ridiculed by the women who perform these mammograms telling me, "Stop it, it doesn't hurt that bad." or "You're acting like a child." Which fundamentally speaking, caused me to avoid going to the Drs. office out of fear the subject of my breasts would come up. The reason I am mentioning all this is because, Adam's episode gave me one more reason NOT to get a mammogram. Then I watched this video and saw you responding to his tweets. Dr. Mike, Please understand when I watch your videos it reminds me, although I have developed fears of hospitals and doctors etc in general because of how I've been treated, (not just the mammogram) but situations since I was a teen. It is very important that I go any way. Bring someone who can help me feel safe so I can get my necessary visits like physicals and blood work etc. completed. YOU DID THAT, you gave me the push I needed and sometimes people like Adam with their presentations forget about people like me. So, thank you for helping me with your humor and gentle persuasions to follow through with taking care of me. Also, my family thanks you too. Respectfully, a fan.

[@juditnagy1706]

I'm sorry that we live in a world where a TV personality gets to throw actual Doctors under the bus.

[@arabhero10]

Judit Nagy a TV personality that worked with doctors and medical administrators to try and squeeze a ridiculously complex topic into

[@juditnagy1706]

@@arabhero10 my point is that Dr. Mike offered constructive criticism, and the host is clearly unwilling to take it under consideration. If fact, he twisted his words, then he dismissed it. THAT is my problem. And this is the PLACE.

[@arabhero10]

Judit Nagy he did not twist or dismiss. Mild misinterpretation maybe, but he definitely did not dismiss it. More rather, he acknowledged the criticisms, and then politely disagreed and stood with his original point, Which is a totally valid response.

[@0doublezero0]

@@arabhero10 Adam definitely misinterprets, dismisses, and twists. The video is just to short to show that he is doing it. The Joe Rogan interview speaks volumes of this. Adam was dismissing multitudes of facts that were stated by Rogan. Adam then continues to put his own "opinion" that is poorly backed by facts. Its like Adam chooses the "facts" that back his opinions and dismisses any facts that don't.

[@arabhero10]

0doublezero0 ok, at the insistence of like 90% of you conservatards screaming about the Rogan interview I watched it, despite the fact that Rogan himself is such a huge waste of time, and at no point is that statement accurate. Adam dismisses feelings and opinions, but at no point do Rogan of his buddy present anything resembling concrete fact. They have half formed “I read a wiki once and I think I know enough to successfully debate this topic” thoughts. Maybe if you learned how science and debate works instead of hoping for gotcha moments that agree with you, you’d be better off.

[@nobelg.]

I wish I had a mini Dr.Mike with me so I can ask health questions whenever I’m confused

[@gagne6928]

it's called a phone

[@zappawoman5183]

I agree with you 100%. I'm a 48 y/o woman, never had a mammogram, but Adam's episode definitely put me off the idea of ever having one.

[@joeyrasmussen8394]

Yeah. I think Adams episode failed to drive home the point that you should talk to your doctor and let them help you decide whether or not you need a mammogram

[@jessica99998]

Please get one darling. Better safe than sorry. Also do self exams frequently

[@samanthawhite5532]

Great job Dr. Mike your patience inspires me to be a better nurse!

[@tasqeenmomin9851]

Hello Dr Mike! Excellent way in which u explained your points... As an aspiring student in Public Health/ Family medicine, such videos of yours, are an informal way of education for people like me. Good luck, keep up the good work!!

[@alethearia]

It's so annoying when in the US you tell your GP that you are worried about a mole and they send you to a specialist instead of just doing a biopsy.

[@johnriggio9781]

Thank you Dr. Mike for showing that data on healthcare costs. We have a nation where tens of thousands of people die each year cause they don't have enough money to cover their deductibles so they forego healthcare. We can see clearly that having a dozen private companies with each having a dozen different plans is so inefficient that it is literally killing and bankrupting people. Most people don't see or are not aware of such a simple point about the cost and you've highlighted that brilliantly and accurately. I hope more doctors like yourself explain this to people, we are past due for a major improvement of our healthcare systems.

[@CarlosSanchez-en6mr]

Hot Mike: Reacts to Adam Adam: MAD Hot Mike: Logical burn Adam:😮

[@YashSharma-gk7fb]

Hot Dr.Mike lol Dont worry about it though, Adam failed to mention it in all his tweets as well

[@UnderTheMoon3]

Carlos Sanchez it’s hot DR Mike

[@ShellyS2060]

The man went through med school, intern hell and residence, AND respects nurses, it's DOCTOR hot Mike

[@swolby9230]

This might be a bit odd to say, but after this sort of binge I've been on with your videos and especially this video, I can certainly say that I look up to you. You're smart, informed, caring and take care of yourself. I want to be like that some day.

[@RoundPi]

Adam (specifically his online persona) sounds like a person who either: disagrees, criticizes and hates a thing or aggressively agrees and frames it as a disagreement, because just agreeing is not part of his brand. It's his position, and only his position, to take. No one is allowed to agree with him /j

[@saigesmart4167]

11:52 "our episode clearly and explicitly lays out the USPSTF guidance..." that's just a lie. I've watched the original video, and as Mike points out, this point is very overshadowed by a negative view on mammograms. Your video may contain this point somewhere, but you basically refute it everywhere else, so don't try and claim innocence

[@maazkalim]

Guess you're not aware with the formal definition of verb “lying”.

[@user-nz4dr1sy5g]

That's not what lying is sir

[@aluneesan1916]

He said in this video that this was his first time watching the video but in the original one he said he had already watched it

[@williammitchell1837]

You should present this speech to all the news networks.

[@MudakTheMultiplier]

Commenting for engagement rating because this is good.

[@elizabethschrader1600]

This response makes me so happy. Dr. Mike was consistently kind, humble, and understanding throughout this entire video, and didn't give in to the temptation to shoot back defensively. It gives me hope that someone of such integrity holds a spotlight in today's social media landscape.

[@SpencerBryant620]

Price-gouging by hospitals is I think something the common person can relate to better than high administrative costs. We see the bills and how much procedures cost, but we don't see the behind-the-scenes billing. So, I think it was entirely fair for him to focus on that aspect of the high costs. It's more consumer-focused. It would be amazing to see how much a procedure costs at the outset, before you have it done. And then, we could focus on what makes those costs so high. But we need to know the costs first to be able to make decisions. That would be an incentive for hospitals and insurers to bring down costs, since we could make informed decisions with our pocketbooks.

[@killerwaspy1303]

Adam Ruins Everything he makes.

[@Perktube1]

He's an overly-dresses soyboy.

[@kottonkandy0962]

Perktube1 - soyboy lmao that’s a new one. Is this a new version of Onionboy?

[@joebiydenn9835]

Lolololololololollollololololoolol

[@Funny_Potato_Man]

Oh shit

[@squidletdos6624]

Rj Simas someone who is overly feminine, but refuses to admit to any of the feminine qualities they express. Generally, a soy boy is also a liberal or a left wing member.

[@deanmasters3279]

The administrative cost is directly linked to profiteering. Only a for-profit hospital has to have administrators work out billing costs and insurance etc.

[@firstylastington9928]

Having social intelligence and being a logical person is a rare quality. You must practice everyday. I hope you get the credit you deserve. People like you are not born this way, it only comes from practice. TLDR Big fan Dr.Mike

[@samw9089]

Doctors Mike is who I aspire to become (tho I’m not trying to be a doctor) ie factual, logical, methodical, empathetic, compassionate, respectful, well intentioned, able to take criticism, yet still able to (successfully) challenge paradigms without pause 10/10 would watch again

[@illironic1348]

Nobody: Doctor Mike: I'm about to drop facts and logic on something health issues...yeah B)

[@FaunaJoy]

Sounds like Adam and a lot of commenters seriously missed the point of Doctor Mike's video.

[@idonno8938]

Dr Mike being an Actual Adult for 17.44 minutes. Love how he takes criticism and answers without being defensive unlike someone else....

[@mateolitc8898]

Tysm for a follow up! I've always been a bit bothered by the way the information in ARE are presented, so I'm happy to see people actually talking about these topics instead of taking his presentation for face value. Always ask questions!

[@yungthunder2681]

Hey, Dr. Mike, I think you should do a video on circumcision, because it is a really important issue at least for men in the USA and women in Africa in the 21st century

[@leoniek6351]

He is of the opinion that parents should be informed about the advantages of circumcision and the risks of the surgery and then make the decision for the baby. Many people idolize this guy, but he's really not that smart. See how people are storming to defend his side. It's ridiculous.

[@yungthunder2681]

@@leoniek6351 I mean, there's a lot more to discuss than that, and the female circumcision that takes place often in Africa to discuss. Also, what advantages? (This is a rhetorical question. The advantages people usually cite are founded in ignorance and are almost entirely irrelevant to western society)

[@fairystail1]

@@yungthunder2681 this may be controversial considering the video topic but Adam actually does a good video on circumsision I think it was done when he was still with College Humour so you can easily find it online

[@leoniek6351]

@@yungthunder2681 I'm quoting him on that. He said it in a previous video. Go shout at your favorite doc, not me.

[@betha3463]

Could you do a video about mammograms specifically? (what they are, why some women don't get them, why they're important, what to ask your doctor, etc.) I'm nowhere near the age to get one but my mom is and I think a video like that could change her current mindset around them

[@sydneyloemker4719]

Damnnnnnnn dr. Mike over hear blessing us with a 17 minute video 😍😍😍😍😍

[@levimays55]

This is your best video on healthcare

[@Nessmess001]

Dr. Mike, I think is really cool how you take criticism in such a mature, easygoing way! I think your point were completely fair and made sense

[@DeathBeGone]

As I read his tweets, I felt pretty sure that Adam was focusing far too hard on the side wherein hospitals earn money to profit. It may be true to some point but it isn’t the main reason why hospital fees are so expensive. As Dr. Mike said, it may be true that hospitals earn for profit, but there’s other factors at play besides this like the evolving of medicine and technology as a whole, the purchasing of new equipment to accomodate the increasing demands and needs of patients, the administrative decisions ongoing that is beyond the physicians’ control, and the like. Working as an lab intern in 2 hospitals for a year, it’s pretty rare for me to find a case where they ask the patient to pay for so much tests to be done all for the sake of profit. I got to see it probably only once BUT I could tell that the certain patient was heavily in need of it the moment we went up to get their blood sample just by looking at how severe the patient’s condition was. Other than that, most of the doctors and nurses hardly request for many tests on the spot unless necessary for the patient. They struggle to find more cheaper yet effective means of helping their patient because they know how expensive the fees can be.

[@kvngcasim7712]

When I saw the administration graph and I immediately think of colleges. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@tacobella6474]

Omg same!

[@lonewander6772]

They pay too much people to do paperwork and not enough to actually do the job. And sometimes they don't even do the paperwork properly, especially colleges.

[@kvngcasim7712]

Lone Wander I’m going to assume you mean to many. In schools and universities the administration isn’t always paid that much so it’s the number of employees. And even then the majority of the time their work is done correct in any administrative position. The problem may be that it wasn’t done as efficient as possible or the fact that they are human so human error is shown especially when they have to deal with hundreds to thousands of files a day. They would actually be better limiting the number for administrators to much lower and making more of the job electronic so that they can get trained to use the technology to do the job for them and double check it.

[@lonewander6772]

@@kvngcasim7712 Too much is still paid towards paperwork when paperwork gets done inefficiently. I'm not saying all post secondary institutions are like this, but if its a problem then you might as well have students file their own paperwork and save on paying excessive employees to inefficiently process paperwork.

[@kvngcasim7712]

Lone Wander actually you can’t do that. There is only so much that is able to be done by students, but in the end it will always need to be checked by administration. Just like they do with hours at a job, payroll and HR always look over them.

[@laner.845]

I'm 39, my grandma died of breast cancer, thought my mom has been fine all her life. I was exposed to burn pits in Afghanistan, and the moment I heard of a significantly increased rate of breast cancer in women stationed near burn pits (so much so that the VA is encouraging women under 40 who have had burn pit exposure to go to the VA for free mammograms), I called my doctor and set up a mammogram early. And I'm so glad I did. The screening mammogram didn't hurt. The follow-up diagnostic mammogram didn't hurt. The technology today is INCREDIBLY improved from what my mother and grandmother had in the 80s back when it did hurt. The biopsy on the lump hurt just a little that first night after the local wore off, and the surgery I'm having later this fall is definitely going to hurt. But guess who isn't going to die of cancer, not from this tumor anyway. GO. GET. SCREENED. AT. FOURTY. It does NOT hurt!

[@juliak5251]

With the mammogram skit: I was already scared of them, and the segment did truly make me never want to get one done. So I do think the information couldve been presented in a different light

[@wintersprite]

I took it as not getting too many done (such as getting it every year when you only need one every three years). Self exams and regular breast exams are fine for in between mammograms. For me, the part I’m not looking forward to is the pain as I’m bigger on top.

[@stevenclark1662]

I am a 31 year old man who has had 2 mammograms because I have a weird lump on my Moob, and my dr. Wants to keep an eye on it. The mammogram itself is pretty easy, no pain or anything, a machine just squeezes your boob/moob for a minute, then they may do an ultrasound. Idk if thats what you are afraid of, but the procedure itself is pretty tame.

[@KatomaFoxling]

Mammograms have come a long way, they sqish the Girls, but not so much that it hurts. Not unless your girls are super tender (which is a thing for many) apparently not for me cause on a pain scale of 1-10, 10 being omg wth, I was at a .0001 on discomfort. It was like laying on my stomach level of annoyance. Then again, my girls aren't big or heavily padded....any more...sooo maybe that's another reason why they're done later in life? Less padding=less pain=easier to find anything potentially wrong? Maybe? As someone's that's had it done I was scared too and afterwards I was like.... ummm that's it? Huh..... it's anti climactic to say the least. HUGZ

[@Raevynwing]

Honestly I get a mammogram every year because my mother died young from breast cancer (beat once but returned a few years later, metastasized to her brain and bones. Since I turned 34 I started getting screened yearly. Even being on the smaller size it is not painful, just mildly uncomfortable on the arm having I raised and laying on the machine, that's all. I was terrified at first but it's really not bad. As scared as I am of hospitals I still go yearly. It's worth it.

[@stevenclark1662]

@@Raevynwing my mom beat breast cancer when I was young, then it came back metastases to her lung. Ishe died when I was 26. I'm 31 now like I said, and I check myself at least once a month. If something like cancer runs through your family like water down a stream, GET CHECKED AT LEAST YEARLY. When it came back for my mom, she spent 2 years telling herself the shortness of breath was just because she was getting older, til she collapsed at work. Take care of yourselves.

[@tarabayke6559]

Adam's misinterpretation of some of your responses mirrors exactly what you predicted would happen when average consumers heard Adam's argument, particularly in regard to mammograms. I think he missed that fact that you were trying to word your responses in a way that would effectively communicate the right message to the consumer, rather than simply giving commentary based on your personal beliefs or feelings toward the situation. It's great that he had medical professionals review his commentary; however, the way he mentioned it insinuated that since it was reviewed by professionals, the information was finite. Doctors frequently have different opinions regarding the same topic, and all perspectives must be heard in order to make the best decisions.

[@mr.fabulousmegardev6256]

This comment deserves more upvotes

[@RinHanyouChan]

Exactly

[@senjy3097]

Adam many times has shown his political views threw his episodes. The way he sees hospitals and the people you chose to feature matter. All I am saying is one of the 2 is biased is Adam.

[@crimnugget868]

Wanna do my language hw?

[@Kougeru]

@@senjy3097 nothing political about the fact that people are dying because of greed in the health care industry

[@matthewct8167]

Is it just me or is Adam Conover purposely mischaracterizing Doctor Mike’s response, in a passive aggressive way?

[@neontime8507]

Because if he didn’t misinterpret them, then he wouldn’t be able to claim dr mike is wrong. That’s why people construct strawmen

[@jwill7998]

Adam is a complete nob.

[@that_one_person5805]

@@jwill7998 I think it's more he's a manipulative person who can't admit his mistakes

[@jwill7998]

@@that_one_person5805 Yes, he's manipulative and very intellectually dishonest (and a nob).

[@henrytawnn8694]

I don't know if it was personal, but Adam did seem defensive. I don't think he was trying to be mean in his comment, but I think he may have taken the criticism personally. They work hard on the show with the constant fact-checking, even more so with this episode, so to hear criticisms might have upset him. The fact is, they both stated facts and thier opinions and no one is wrong. Adam seemed to take it a little personal, but Dr. Mike welcomes the criticism and owned up to what Adam mentioned, all while being respectful and didn't come off as rude. I like both Adam and Dr. Mike, and I don't think either of them mean any harm, or would ever intentionally try to misinform people with their show/channel. They just had a difference of opinion, regarding stated facts, that they both agree on.

[@akua.n]

Ways to solve all your problems: CHEST COMPRESSIONS CHEST COMPRESSIONS CHEST COMPRESSIONS

[@anushiyavijayan4463]

Technically chest compressions can solve your physical problems which in turn can solve your other problems so yeah

[@akua.n]

@@anushiyavijayan4463 hehe.........yeah

[@bigweld2732]

If that doesn’t get put on a shirt it’ll be a missed opportunity.

[@amandathompson6327]

I died😂😂 ( I need chest compressions)

[@tomstaunton1804]

if anyone wants to do chest compressions on my student loans that'd be great

[@TheTrueLDS]

Damn bro I’ve got serious respect for someone who can calmly and intelligently refute an argument - especially considering Adam’s response seemed quite defensive and in my opinion slightly arrogant. You laid your points out clearly, concisely, and understandably, and still maintained the level of charisma you always have. Mad respect

[@catzbestfriend]

N3ptune - totally gonna look at this when do debates in college

[@hummingbirdcity]

Arrogant is Adam's maiden name.

[@audih0e]

honestly i think from both sides they dealt with it pretty well

[@maxw__t__6538]

I wouldn't say defensive but rather he tried answer critisism so that there is a broader understanding of how the cideo was made and what their point of view was. On top of that i think the way Adam anwered was pretty calm to as he wrote multiple tweets explaining. Lastly it may seem arrogant but thats is mostlikely because it was based on dr. mike's video ,which only gave limited explainaitions (due to it's length and way of editing) on some comments.

[@EsotericTherapy]

Adam acts like a smug little bitch.

[@cooldude2251]

It's clear that one of these people watched the others show and the other didnt.

[@senza4591]

Yes, yep. You are right.

[@BreakingDnD]

Yeah this guy obviously misunderstood Adams entire video.

[@Cthulhoop]

@@BreakingDnD It's obvious that you're an idiot.

[@sajor6698]

@@Cthulhoop i hope you're joking...

[@AnastasiaMaliel]

Cthulhoop it’s obvious he was joking

[@chryss.3055]

I loved all your points but the thing I loved the most is that you replied to Adam so politely and truly without trying to make "KZbin drama" as many other creators do! You explained your points in the best way possible so that no one gets offended and you stated your worries about what was implied by Adam in a very positive way. Happy that you are on KZbin!!

[@danatreisch1542]

You said everything here better than I could. So, YES. It really just shows that people can still engage thoughtfully and intelligently in a debate/conversation without drama. It's refreshing.

[@Zutraxi]

It makes so clear that people/ creators can be just in it for the fame and money, because that was their motivation for starting content creation. While others set out to start creation purely to help regardless of if it will get them famous or not. I like, no I love not even that I am starting to crave Dr. Ms pure way of doing things. I am simply fed up with this defensive posture towards facts. One example is vaccines. We should focus more on teaching children that it is okay to be wrong as long as you are willing to listen to factual critique. Instead of letting this age of social media dilute their understanding of what an argument is. Your argument is not more valid because you have twenty million followers. Unless that is what you are arguing about, how it is to have so many followers. I just wish Adams response tweet was less aggressive in tone, and used less words on defending themselves and more words on looking at the critique. One thing I do think we need to touch on is how he might have come across Dr Ms initial video. Thousands of people could have started some sort of overdramatic shitstorm that forced Adam to watch the video in a negative light. Then afterwards commenting on it to defend the show from those thousands of people creating a mob. In my opinion and experience that is how can be with many of these types of responses on the internet. So I am sincerely happy, that it was handled in this calm collected way in this video.

[@marielramirez2029]

i felt shade there for some recent youtuber. ⛱⛱⛱⛱🍵🍵🍵🍵

[@daegrun]

Dr. Mike did his honest best. That’s all I could hope for.

[@kaminsod4077]

Oh shit we got Twitter beef on the menu.

[@noisyguy12]

Let's go!

[@Kougeru]

doesn't really look like beef but rather professionally, well written responses on both sides

[@la-pantarana]

I feel like Adam tried to cover his ass for something he really didn't need to

[@sexycavetroll2788]

@@Kougeru lol you didn't see how Adam twisted what Mike said? Adam is a really shadey dude

[@krisgomez3997]

soft cream yeah I’m with you. Adam really seemed to try and make Mike sound like “one of them” and that mike was almost trying to “silence” him. Really rubbed me the wrong way.

[@jessediaz4342]

"I reject your criticism" what bro you can't do that

[@Coolsomeone234]

Lol

[@MentallyBougie]

😂 😂 😂

[@crocodileguy4687]

😆

[@freshrockpapa-e7799]

Specially when your show is all about criticising others lmao

[@neontime8507]

Never knew that was an option. “You killed my dog, you murderer!” “I reject your criticism.”

[@ankushdas5148]

I am genuinely blown away about how you can explain such complicated stuff with such simplicity. This channel literally makes my day. Dr. Mike thank you for the amazing contents every weak. And another thing you are the least biased person I have ever seen.(in a Mobile Screen) love your videos!

[@arielle4242]

Gigantic Director Official in a fun fact video about Dr. Mike he said that one of his best skills is explaining complicated topics in a clear and simple way! He isn’t wrong

[@Praz55]

Dr. Mike is the kind of person I would trust to babysit Baby Yoda.

[@iCybutMelting]

Praz55 really cool how Dr. Mike looks back and likes comments he probably found funny!

[@voltagetortoiz3137]

Blender

[@0zz1k5]

That is about all I can trust him with...

[@danielfernandez675]

That's so true!

[@vengefulspirit99]

This is the way.

[@LudietHistoria]

I really love the way you are Dr. Mike, I swear, you're just...a really good human. You take criticism positively and use it to improve yourself! I hope one day I can do that too.

[@AdmiringObserverR]

Key point: “How the average person will interpret the way the information is presented”

[@tjslam26]

Conover can't hear those words. All he hears is "disagree" and gets triggered and defensive.

[@carolinecc8888]

omg he said it right when I read this

[@yourloyalfollower6667]

Caroline Dodge MEEE TOOO

[@kharnthebetrayer8251]

I think what you need to do is go in knowing 'It's a comedy show'. The bit in the middle has a bit of exaggerating. you really only need the beginning where he has the point and the end where he goes more in depth about it. And with that it's Mammograms aren't as good as you think. You should only use them if you have a lump you're worried about. Or when you get into your 40's and the risks are higher. The middle has a lot of facts, but nothing that's really required to know, and is mostly the entertainment part to make sure people watch and help them to remember the show.

[@themalakorein396]

@@kharnthebetrayer8251 right but what mike said is correct, if someone is already afraid of the idea of a certain procedure, and then you go on a 5 minute rant about how bad they are and everything that went wrong, they arent going to pay attention to the 30 seconds of good you say at the very end. and even if its a comedy show, presenting information out of context, even though it may be factual, can cause misleading ideas. I will use myself as an example, growing up I loved to watch history channel, and one of the episodes i watched was about Ireland, and it had to do with the IRA. At the time, due to the way the information had been provided in the episode, I though the IRA were just freedom fighters for Ireland to escape British control. They are war profiteering terrorists... nothing more. Not giving full context cant greatly change the perspective of the information.

[@ruthiemorton873]

Thank you for showing a beautiful example of how disagree and debate in a respectful way.

[@jessedelaney920]

Ruthie... respectfully and sincerely, fuck you :)

[@meggylouwho]

@@jessedelaney920 I was scrolling through the comments and yours stood out, I'm curious: why did you reply so aggressively?

[@turk1766]

@@meggylouwho he was joking

[@ScathingSarcasm]

Great and very measured response. I love a media creator that can absorb that kind of vaguely insulting and aggressive slapback and give a calm, thought out and good-spirited answer. You're an amazing role model!

[@intipires3898]

I respect so much people who do this

[@holysecret2]

I would not be able to handle it in this way, a great inspiration

[@MemekingSupreme]

Wait until you see his reply to Dr Hope, shows his real attitude towards criticism. Still enjoy his videos but don't respect him after that old 'beef'

[@Pelmite]

How does adam criticize things for a living but not understand any of dr mikes critiques ?

[@blackbird7781]

Bias

[@adventuresoftj3301]

Because hes a personality.

[@SethMacMillan]

Well, it's not truly him doing all of the critiquing. He likely has a few researchers that he turns to for the information and then present that information. Not to say he isn't involved in the research process, but he likely is not as involved as that team.

[@jordandeering7145]

Matthew Smith wait till you hear him on joe rogans podcast

[@kyle-silver]

The episode is on the older side, and tbh I can imagine that Adam's moved on mentally from that episode and just skimmed the initial reaction video. I'm glad that this has remained civil, though

[@DevilGeneImbued]

Adam: **Gives a lightly snarky and butthurt tweet** Mike: “Ah! He tweeted me, and I’m so happy to have this debate, yes” Me: **Puts my face into my hands** Oh my God, he’s a puppy

[@DeidarasLilStudent]

This. So much this. Everything and this. He sounded so offended that a doctor disagreed with his video because ‘they did so much fact checking!!!!’ when he never really disagreed. Mike just thought that the information coulda been explained better/differently. Fact check and review it all you want but delivery is what actually matters.

[@SidRo1113]

Bluebird Grayson I don’t think Adams reply was particularly snarky, I also felt that (when I watched doctor mikes reaction) he felt fairly defensive, which is understandable. I also think that simply taking a section out of a segment can make anything look like “normal viewers will misunderstand” and I’m sure you can do the same with Mikes videos. In the hospital video it does clarify straight after the segment about those tests to start them at 40 so the insistence from Doctor Mike sounds strange. As well as this, doctor mike is reacting to those tweets in a video format, while Adams are written. As such it’s a lot easier to misunderstand Adams tone compared to Mikes because we can see mikes reactions as he’s replying. I’d like to clarify that I’m a big Doctor Mike fan and Adam Ruins Everything Fan and love this interation, I just also think it’s a little too hasty to assume Mike is chill and Adam isn’t because of formatting

[@Tigatron1448]

HeroRodrigues Adam isn’t chill though... have you seen him outside of his show? I truly hate this phrase, but if it were to apply to anyone it would be Adam - he’s the definition of a beta male. Ugh... the cringe... anyways... Adam is pretty much a know it all asshole who isn’t interested in debate or conversation. He utilizes anecdotes when it suits him and dismisses objective data if that information goes against his belief. I enjoy the premise of Adam ruins everything and I think there are some great episodes. However... I think a lot of the episodes are ideologically driven instead of simply fact focused. I find Dr. Mike to have a kinda irritating personality which makes his videos hard to watch for me. But I think he overall does a good job in presenting his opinions and is fair to others.

[@DeidarasLilStudent]

@@Tigatron1448 Honestly when you look at videos of him trying to explain his point of view on the spot he just makes him look like a dunce "WELL I BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE!" "because....?" "uhhh....w-well because.... because- could you elaborate?" 500% beta male and everything else you said. If i could make his a top comment I would.

[@ElPayasoMalo]

"Beta males" are not a thing.