Narcissistic in-laws: when YOU are married to the GOLDEN CHILD

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DoctorRamani

DoctorRamani

Күн бұрын

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@youngblood8540
@youngblood8540 Ай бұрын
You'll never have a good life with The "Golden Child" unless they cut the proverbial umbilical cord that's attached to the narcissist.
@basantidevi2305
@basantidevi2305 Ай бұрын
Or their narcissistic friends.
@NarcSurvivor
@NarcSurvivor Ай бұрын
The golden child was spoiled in childhood. Many golden children turn into narcissists. I was the golden child until I was around 12/13 and then I became the scapegoat, once I moved in with my narcissistic father. Maybe that saved me from becoming a narcissist myself - who knows? But golden children can be very difficult to deal with. Many of them are perfectionists and obsessive compulsive.
@susanbradleyskov9179
@susanbradleyskov9179 Ай бұрын
Thank you for talking about the possible narcissism of the golden child, and not just the narcissistic abuse meted out to the spouse of a golden child.
@p.w.352
@p.w.352 Ай бұрын
It's hard to say. I think it depends on the personality type. Some people are predisposed. My scapegoated sister was the one who became the narcissist.
@susannakotoff7095
@susannakotoff7095 Ай бұрын
golden child-covert religious narc sil
@susannakotoff7095
@susannakotoff7095 Ай бұрын
toxic bully antagonist mil
@michellehollis9787
@michellehollis9787 Ай бұрын
Yep my ex was a golden child narcissist. Mother in Law and Step mother in Law was narcissist too. Got the abuse from all sides. Thank you NarcSurvivor for mentioning this. Stay strong. You are not alone. 💕💪I pray for God heals you completely from your recent heart attack in Jesus name I pray.🙏
@dennism8346
@dennism8346 Ай бұрын
I radically accepted that I'm not good enough for some in-laws. It's not my problem to fix their stuff. I just move along.
@redlikewineagain697
@redlikewineagain697 Ай бұрын
The overvaluation of sons is spot on, Dr. Ramani. And when the overvalued son is an *only* child of parents who have made that child the center of their world, the stakes are even higher. I know of a situation like this. The son tried to put physical distance between him and his wealthy parents by moving 100 miles away, but 5 years later, the parents moved within a couple of miles of him. They also control him with money. The son has a live-in girlfriend. I feel sorry for both of them. They will never have any peace until the parents are dead and gone. ~ Ladies, I'm telling you....if you find yourself dating a man where these dynamics are present, run for the hills!
@tsukigalleta
@tsukigalleta Ай бұрын
Also keep in mind that golden child could be playing clueless when they actually know exactly what's happening
@ToniKemp-h6b
@ToniKemp-h6b 14 күн бұрын
Happened to me!
@ShivaSolentei
@ShivaSolentei 11 күн бұрын
Happened to me too…
@tteejay9837
@tteejay9837 Ай бұрын
Sometimes the golden child joins the parents and talks about the spouse with them.
@TheCutieAnimalss
@TheCutieAnimalss Ай бұрын
💯 facts
@sueg2658
@sueg2658 Ай бұрын
🎯
@poojamalhotra5093
@poojamalhotra5093 Ай бұрын
Yes
@nancykg6666
@nancykg6666 Ай бұрын
All the time! Treat the spiuse as a common enemy of his/her family! They "bond" over you!
@melisentiapheiffer3034
@melisentiapheiffer3034 Ай бұрын
Fact
@Rut-vi7iz
@Rut-vi7iz Ай бұрын
Oh my gosh, did you ever nail this one. My ex would never take up for me against his narcissistic parents. He didn't see why any snarky remark his mom made about me (I was beneath them) should bother me. I finally got kicked to the curb 27 years in. Best thing my ex ever did. I've been healing for almost 10 years now, and I finally feel like I am regaining my bearings.
@user-wi9hv2pb2q
@user-wi9hv2pb2q Ай бұрын
My SIL married the golden child who is a raging narcissist himself. Who truly suffers are the children, except of course, the next generation golden child. 😢 My mother blames Everything on my SIL, and she believes this entire fantasy past my brother created of how he was the savior of the family etc. She blames everyone but her husband. It takes toxic to the stratosphere in that house. My brother wrote the scape goat invisible children out of his will. Completely. They are 5 and 7.
@Amazinglilflowers
@Amazinglilflowers Ай бұрын
I’m leaving him after 8 years of marriage 😊
@meabeck
@meabeck Ай бұрын
​@@AmazinglilflowersBe good to you. Stay safe.
@lainaentzminger9903
@lainaentzminger9903 19 күн бұрын
Still in a 38 year marriage. Suffering for what I know but too late for me. Seriously is too late for me. Dying a slow painful death with this.
@lainaentzminger9903
@lainaentzminger9903 19 күн бұрын
@@Amazinglilflowersbless you and best wishes. I’m stuck. Thirty eight years and now just too late. Much suffering. You are definitely doing the right thing. I pray you slay the terrible feelings. Sounds like you are very intelligent and I just want to send empathy,prayers, and support. Enjoy life He took much and you grew and rock my friend. Inspiring. Just good to hear someone got smart and is saving the life we only have one to live. ❤🙌🙏
@sarahcook908
@sarahcook908 Ай бұрын
Oh man being married to the golden child was the WORST. He was a narcissist too. So very glad I left, life is really really good now 5 years later.
@PaulaCoronado-w7j
@PaulaCoronado-w7j Ай бұрын
I am currently going through this, your comment gave me hope in a hopeless situation. 🫶🏽❤️
@sarahcook908
@sarahcook908 Ай бұрын
@PaulaCoronado-w7j good luck ❤️❤️
@QX-xq5uj
@QX-xq5uj Ай бұрын
And now I get it! I was struggling with double abuse and manipulation because they defended each other and justified every unhealthy behavior because he was used to being treated like a prince, but was not loved from his mother! To keep this dynamic going on he had to always accept what she wanted and allowed her invasive entitlement at our home.😨 And I was double gaslightet!!
@youngblood8540
@youngblood8540 Ай бұрын
One of the biggest red flag and most selfish and weirdest thing she told me, was that "all the holidays belong to her mother". I responded, "WHAT? SMH, I have parents too. We have to compromise and share the holidays".
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Ай бұрын
She wishes. 😆
@Chessica450-m3d
@Chessica450-m3d Ай бұрын
THIS!!! So glad we're free to spend the holidays as we choose!! I told my now fiance that I don't want to spend ALL HOLIDAYS AT HIS PARENTS HOUSE! WE HAVE OUR OWN PLACE! PLUS I'M NOT GONNA BE PRESSURED INTO HOSTING AND BEING UNDER HIS MOTHER OT EXTENDED FAMILY. WE'RE FREE TO CELEBRATE OUR HOLIDAYS IN PEACE! NO FAMILY GET TOGETHER SHOULD BE FORCED
@leecotton3242
@leecotton3242 Ай бұрын
My goodness: that was my former fiancé’s mother. I am so thankful that relationship went south.
@masquarra
@masquarra Ай бұрын
I finally said enough when my ex-husband, whilst pushing his fingers in my face, demanded I took the entire blame for the stress of our marriage. Absolving himself and his family
@Sweetpea-2023
@Sweetpea-2023 Ай бұрын
100%! Accurate! Joining that family was like walking into a coven of vampires. 🧛 My ex narc MIL went so far as to get involved with my ex’s affair partner and groomed and promoted her to current love, while the family disrespected, devalued and discarded me (12 years of marriage). I had no idea. It was the best thing they ever could’ve done for me because i’ve been free of that psychotic family for a few years now and the transformation of my mental and physical health is dramatically better.
@deborahrobinson6553
@deborahrobinson6553 Ай бұрын
😂 A coven of vampires
@juliezuvela8865
@juliezuvela8865 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this insight. The weird mother's enmeshment. The smear campaign The triangulation
@user-mx3kh8rj1t
@user-mx3kh8rj1t Ай бұрын
My ex-wife not only attacked our son’s wife, but also his wife’s parents. He finally cut his mother off for good, years ago. No contact. Best thing he ever did for himself and his wife. He also finally figured out and understood why I was a mostly absent father during his childhood. His mother was/is a monster - a destroyer of any and all relationships our son had with others, especially, what had been a beautiful father/son relationship.
@Behindblueeyes-r2u
@Behindblueeyes-r2u Ай бұрын
I believe my husband is the golden child and I’ve been dealing with issues with my mother-in-law over the last few years. We went on a family trip and that’s when things unravelled. She said some mean things out of the ear shot of my husband and then she said she didn’t mean it that way, and he bought into her manipulations. My husband then saw some further passive aggressive actions from her that’s when he started to notice her behavior. However, my husband and I are implementing boundaries which has been very difficult because of course she doesn’t want to follow boundaries. I went and sat down with her at a counseling session and went over boundaries with her with the counselor so we’ll see how it goes. The situation is still very much a challenge and it’s causing conflict in my marriage. My husband is seeing her covert narcissism but also says he won’t cut all contact with his mom. We are low-contact at this point.
@TheCutieAnimalss
@TheCutieAnimalss Ай бұрын
Wow…feels like she’s telling my story. I always thought I should have fought harder; but after the math, I realized it’s the best decision I’ve ever made for myself. No matter what or how much you do, you will not satisfy them. There’s always somethings pops up in their head just to hate us.
@QX-xq5uj
@QX-xq5uj Ай бұрын
Very helpful for my healing process! My Ex was not only the golden child from 4 kids, but also a covert N himself! He was from the type that "didn't get it" as I tried to make clear that the inlaws broak all boundaries and could walk in the house whenever they wanted and use him every time! His younger brother was the scapegoat and could get away from the whole toxicity and admitted that the only way possible to live a healthy life was to move to another country with wife and kids. Once again dear Dr.R. your insights are excellent!👏🏼✨️
@thoughtfulthreadsAI
@thoughtfulthreadsAI Ай бұрын
Geez Dr. Ramani, you hit the nail on the head again. Thank you! My in-laws viewed my wife, the only child and golden child (Scapegoat when needed too), as a baby making machine. Her mom wanted her to be a single mom, dependent on her mom (the Narcissistic leader) and just produce grandchildren for her. Her mom even used words to beat around the bush from saying this directly.
@vanessacotter8684
@vanessacotter8684 Ай бұрын
Yes!!! It's like they want them to fail and need to move home with mommy!!!!
@ruthslater6364
@ruthslater6364 Ай бұрын
Absolutely true the golden child. My mother in law was the worst woman I have ever met in life. She was horrible, mean , manipulative, vindictive, absolute control with her son. He would never stand up to her. I have always suspected they had a thing going on. He was adopted. It was a sick relationship.
@suecullen631
@suecullen631 Ай бұрын
Lord have Mercy I am so finished.
@Medicbythesquare
@Medicbythesquare Ай бұрын
It's such a surreal feeling to have an entire extended family join forces to grind you into the dirt. I didn't understand what was happening till I heard an interview about a book on golden children.
@Luna-rj3if
@Luna-rj3if Ай бұрын
Yes. Had an argument with his mother and sister, (he instigated) and than he just stood there quietly and didn’t say a word. The older he gets, the more he becomes like his mother.
@surlif
@surlif Ай бұрын
What you describe is exactly what happened to me. It is taking time to get over. The family I married into used their religious belief system to gaslight me and blame me for everything that went wrong and plenty went wrong! They found hundreds of ways to let me know I was inferior to them and did not deserve their golden child. I am gradually pulling myself up by my boot straps. Thank you for being here for us, Dr. Ramani!
@lindasadler4646
@lindasadler4646 Ай бұрын
I married the scapegoat and saw the golden child's marriage be destroyed by a nasty and jealous MiL who I suspected of having Jocasta complex. I've ceased all contact with the MiL because of the way she treated my husband and myself and also encouraging my husband's brother to treat him like the poor relation. Fortunately my husband is fine with it because he sees what I see.
@Chessica450-m3d
@Chessica450-m3d Ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤ hope you both keep each other safe ❤️🙏🏿 so good when your spouse sees it too!!
@littlemissdreamy
@littlemissdreamy Ай бұрын
Years of sheer hell. I hope I can heal.
@Teebirdlaw
@Teebirdlaw Ай бұрын
This is my story. The validation hurts and heals at the same time
@cominghometoyeshua
@cominghometoyeshua Ай бұрын
my MIL didnt fully show her communal narcissism until i had kids. she is the most covert narc ive ever seen. my hubby is a very loving man that has come a long way but ive almost left many times. he has some of her traits but i believe he chose to be as different from her as he could. he definately decided to marry a woman completely different from his mom. we are finally a team but it is still veryyyyyy hard for him to see what i see. i think he knows more than shares because so painful. he feels guilty for his siblings. the triangulation is something she did all the time but cant anymore now that we're a team. but she does that to everyone else's marriage, even her clients (she's a therapist!!). she knows i know what she is and will never stop trying to violate boundaries and gaslight. shes a compulsive liar as well. she gossips about my FIL to their kids and it is disgusting. her new golden child is my husband's youngest brother who is sadly a complete narc and probably sociopath.
@DianeR-h7v
@DianeR-h7v Ай бұрын
Thank you Dr Ramani for all that you do!
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Ай бұрын
Congrats! You're 1st 🥇
@barbarag.269
@barbarag.269 Ай бұрын
This blue is definitely your colour😍
@colleenmclaren7365
@colleenmclaren7365 Ай бұрын
Dang - yup I married a first born son who is a golden child , played a very strong leadership role in his family It’s been a long, slog. They pretty much didn’t even acknowledge me when visiting our place even after making food and coffee. My hubs didn’t notice Now I don’t care any more and just try to work the days he goes to Visit for holidays. It’s been a slog For sure . All you talked about happened
@ThanksHermione
@ThanksHermione Ай бұрын
So this what Debra suffered through with her husband and in-laws on Everybody Loves Raymond. It's also on I Love a Mama's Boy.
@AlextheENTP
@AlextheENTP Ай бұрын
Amazing how poorly the 90s sitcoms have aged, eh? 😂 Back then her awful MIL was hilarious and the abuse went right over everyone's heads. (That said, I did find it very clever that in the much less toxic sitcom _The Middle,_ Doris Roberts once again played a woman who hated Patricia Heaton's character. I thought it was a nice Easter egg for "those in the know"😄)
@JaneDoe-rd5wh
@JaneDoe-rd5wh 19 күн бұрын
My inlaws are worse than what Debra suffered through. They are mad that we bought a house further away from them. My inlaws actually wanted us to move in with them. I would rather live in a homeless shelter than with my inlaws. Fortunately, my husband is awake to their behavior. We are working on boundaries.
@janemclean7032
@janemclean7032 Ай бұрын
You look absolutely gorgeous today . That sweater that color looks so beautiful on you! Thank you for your videos! My mom was a narcissist and it really affected me so much. I have been to lots of therapy which has helped me understand, but your videos have helped me go deeper and are so helpful❤
@SAHMof4-k8b
@SAHMof4-k8b Ай бұрын
This video is a God send! It explains my situation perfectly as my spouse is the golden child. Unfortunately he only understands everything to an extent but I keep praying hard he sees the full truth more and more. He does stand up for me here and there and understands I come first but at the same time tries to play both sides. My MIL has emotionally and psychologically abused me for years and it definitely got worse after having kids. My MIL also wore a similar white dress to my wedding. I just hope there's light at the end of this what seems like an impossible situation.
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Ай бұрын
She wore that! OMG! I bet people saw through her at least. Oy yoy yoy.
@MNL5270
@MNL5270 Ай бұрын
broke my family up..now, I know what it's called..I have been asking myself "why"..now, I get it..thank you..please talk about communal narcissism too..
@Ozy-te1rr
@Ozy-te1rr Ай бұрын
My goldenchild sister and her husband always treated me as a liar and disrespectull against my narcisstic mom,when I understood eveything.I went no contact
@velvetvoiceartist7733
@velvetvoiceartist7733 Ай бұрын
I hear you. My GC brother and sister in law have definitely treated me as a liar, smeared my reputation to others around them. After our mother passed, I saw sooo much when among their friends and our extended family for the funeral. It was clear to me, there will always be something wrong with me in his mind. I'm just done. I don't care what anyone thinks of me anymore or if they keep excluding me from activities. Life is too short to spend it being misunderstood, mistreated, unloved, and under constant surveillance and evaluation. I'm so done.❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹💜
@girlbloggerlolita
@girlbloggerlolita Ай бұрын
doctor ramani i just wanted to tell you how thankful i am for your videos. if it wasn‘t for them i would‘ve never left my abusive relationship and i still would‘ve prolly suffered to this day. please keep making these videos, you‘re an angel❤️ thank you for being the voice for people who are afraid to speak up
@QQuandary
@QQuandary Ай бұрын
Thank you, @DoctorRamani !! This video filled-in a missing gap that I didn't understand about my situation.
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Ай бұрын
Me too, and I thought I'd learned about every angle already.
@KarenCrouch-d3k
@KarenCrouch-d3k Ай бұрын
You are the best Dr Ramani! I’m learning from you every day ❤
@ChelseaMorgan-q5q
@ChelseaMorgan-q5q Ай бұрын
Can you do a video on after you have children With the golden child and toxic in laws pleeease.
@SENSEF
@SENSEF Ай бұрын
THIS!!!
@tribecalledmaya
@tribecalledmaya Ай бұрын
yes please
@PCAGA2298
@PCAGA2298 Ай бұрын
Oh yes, I married the narcissistic golden child of a narcissist family. Mother in law was a kind empath but very easily manipulated by her narcissistic daughter (my sister in law). That woman (sister in law) has caused me unbelievable pain over the years until my husband finally agreed to go no contact with said sister in law. This was only after my dear mother in law died. My mother had tried to warn me about that family 😢
@FernandoMonteiroNeto-y9h
@FernandoMonteiroNeto-y9h Ай бұрын
Try being the golden child (now scape goat for not doing with my life what I was told) of a malignant narcissist mother, married to a covert narcisist. My life was hell for the 10 years my relationship lasted. During my divorce, I saw a video of Dr Ramani and finally understood what I was going trough. Life is still hard. But at least now, at the age of 42, I know what I'm facing.
@judenagarza3501
@judenagarza3501 Ай бұрын
Dr.Ramani Many Thanks!!
@earthrooster1969
@earthrooster1969 Ай бұрын
0:14 Good luck and we're done 😂.. I love your sense of humour that comes out of a very good understanding of the situation, as painful as it may be...
@BunnyBinkies7
@BunnyBinkies7 Ай бұрын
Going through this now. Been married almost 20 years to a covert narcissist and I identified the manipulative/abusive behaviors in his mom first. Playing the victim, ignoring boundaries, faux apologies, etc. It wasn’t until 4 years ago that I realized he did the same things except it’s more insidious. I’ve never felt supported by him when it comes to his family. He pretended to set boundaries with them but he was always way too soft. He always takes credit for any gifts, cards, etc. I send them for holidays so he looks like the good guy while simultaneously excluding me/preventing me from building a relationship. Now that the mask is off, he all of a sudden wants to build a relationship with his parents and takes our kids to visit them, against my wishes, as passive aggressive punishment to me.
@VictorN-o2z
@VictorN-o2z Ай бұрын
.. stole the golden goose vibe is so accurate and heartbreaking, they were trapped in a hurricane of foolishness like a tragic sitcom. Unrelenting and menacing 💯😮😬 Thanks for these so informative, I will need to buy & read the book 🙏🏾
@budayjerang2195
@budayjerang2195 Ай бұрын
Golden children are the worst narcissists.
@PCAGA2298
@PCAGA2298 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah, it was always in private with no witnesses.
@p.w.352
@p.w.352 Ай бұрын
As the invisible child, which was pretty damaging, I think it would be worse to be the golden child. At least it was easier for me to escape.
@AlonzoJ-pf4dt
@AlonzoJ-pf4dt Ай бұрын
No
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Ай бұрын
Yep. That's the conclusion many of us have come to.
@FernandoMonteiroNeto-y9h
@FernandoMonteiroNeto-y9h Ай бұрын
My narcissistic mother hated all my partners. There is no one good enough for her golden child. She thinks she owns me and that I should be living with her, and doing everything she wants. I'm 42 and I'm so tired.
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Ай бұрын
Can you cut ties with her?
@dannillebennett1761
@dannillebennett1761 Ай бұрын
Wow. Yeah. I was made to believe I was the problem for having boundaries with my inn laws. I refused family together with them for ten years. They insisted I was controlling even though I always encouraged my partner to go with them -- I just wasn't go to subject myself to it. My partner had glimpses but never stood to them for me. Ultimately our relationship ended ...
@justme9342
@justme9342 Ай бұрын
Mine ended too I did the same never went
@tribecalledmaya
@tribecalledmaya Ай бұрын
I am dealing with this now we just had a daughter 4 months ago. he’s stuck in between- seeming frustrated I won’t have open access but then is also clearly embarrassed and aware that they are acting grossly entitled. it’s like he’s stuck and instead of choosing one side he wants to mesh his old life/ his toxic enmeshed family he was born into with the new dynamics of the family he created. I am not budging though. I don’t play those silly games with my children. it’s like they’re annoyed they can’t get VIP access from me- but they ignored me my entire pregnancy. i’m not even bitter I’m simply following suit. any advice would be helpful though.
@Snowfoxie1
@Snowfoxie1 Ай бұрын
My ex was the golden boy of his whole family (and, surprise! turned out to be a raging narcissist himself), but especially his insanely narcissistic grandfather. I met his grandpa when I was in college and it felt like a job interview meets police interrogation. The man grilled me about my resume and family history and earning potential and religion. Despite me having better grades and family stability than my ex, his grandpa told him to dump me because I would hold him back and was probably going to get pregnant to “lock him down and steal his family name” 😆Thank God that relationship didn’t last.
@mshiker
@mshiker Ай бұрын
I did. He lived double life: just a perfect son infront of his childhood family but in reality a monster back home..an alcohol and porn addict.
@katherinekorineck8145
@katherinekorineck8145 Ай бұрын
This is great, very informative and spot on! And, sometimes the GC becomes a narcissist themselves. Will you also do one about being married to the Scapegoat?
@brigittecuthbertson7197
@brigittecuthbertson7197 Ай бұрын
Doesn’t the golden child have some degree of Narcissism? They must have to engage with and still benefit from the family dynamics.
@Luna-rj3if
@Luna-rj3if Ай бұрын
I think so. The golden child may like the attention, the arguments between his family and his spouse.
@sushmayen
@sushmayen Ай бұрын
It's very difficult to prioritize our own wellbeing while navigating such in-laws. Add loneliness to this while being in the relationship. They're never there for you.
@tribecalledmaya
@tribecalledmaya Ай бұрын
right- then add in children God forbid
@Chessica450-m3d
@Chessica450-m3d Ай бұрын
With one right now!! BUT!! he has set boundaries with his family, especially his parents!! I told him about my concerns regarding his overbearing mother and other red flags. I let him know, I'm not puttinf up with none of it! He gets it!! He even confided in me that his mother makes him sick. So we limit our time with them!! We don't disclose anything personally to them regarding our lives..we just tell them we are busy working!!!! We protect each other and are each other's safe place. He is sept 14 , i am sept 12, virgos, both givers, former ppl pleasers and givers..now we choose to put ourselves amd each other FIRST and won't let extended families on either end mess up what we got going. We protect our relationship as if it's a new born baby!! I told him, I'm not marrying into his mother's family, I'm getting together with him for us to start our own family!!! I'm not under nobody in your family!! We decide how they can be involved in our lives, not the other way around.
@nashbenditormenta6092
@nashbenditormenta6092 Ай бұрын
My narcissistic golden child brother got married to a sweet, meek woman. I've been no contact for 8 years with all of them, but I still feel bad for her. I often wonder if she would trust me or believe me if I reached out to check up on her, but being the scapegoated adult child I think she's already been told a lot of untrue stuff about me. So I just let it be. It's hard to watch good people get vampirized away by these empty, cruel sadists. PS: Love the new set up! Just a thought, is it just me or the audio tends to be only on the left speaker? It wasn't like that before, but it felt like that the last couple of vids.
@deemaysie6568
@deemaysie6568 Ай бұрын
I have also just sat and watched the inevitable happen to a lovely women who became a member of my in-laws family. She unfortunately went down all the rabbit holes, tolerated alcohol abuse and tried to fix the marriage by having kids. So VERY sad to watch all this play out exactly as you know it would!
@TallulahCat
@TallulahCat 17 күн бұрын
I’m dealing with this so much right now. Sent him this video. Thank you so much for making me feel real. Coming from a golden child who worked on boundaries and helping a golden child spouse still on the path. ❤
@Babysaysno
@Babysaysno Ай бұрын
Yeah, I would imagine so. Thankfully, the trauma bond is broken. There is no love left. However, it can get complicated with these family systems because of the nature of what they are.
@AlextheENTP
@AlextheENTP Ай бұрын
Years ago when I watched the movie _Monster-in-Law,_ I thought it was ridiculously unrealistic that the son be so BLIND to his mother's toxic craziness. He was written as this ditzy handsome guy who just wrote his mother off as "a little difficult," completely dismissing the hell she was putting his fiancee through (spoiler: at one point she even does severe bodily harm to the daughter-in-law). This video made me think back to that romcom and realise that he was her Golden Child! Her little blue-eyed boy, forever Mummy's. As you alluded to, Dr Ramani, in the movie of course it all ends well. But IRL the marriage would have been an absolute mess from the get-go. Maybe I'll go watch that again just for fun, lol.
@SENSEF
@SENSEF Ай бұрын
Oh, I totally relate with that movie!
@beatitcreep.
@beatitcreep. Ай бұрын
I was ready to put up with my golden child ex's awfully invasive mother, until her husband passed away and she decided to move into her golden son's basement. He dumped me after I asked to set boundaries with her (she was wearing my bathing suit without my consent). I'm thankful he dumped me, it would have been hell.
@paintedtongue
@paintedtongue Ай бұрын
Wow, I finally get why even if my marriage is at stake, my husband will cave to my sister-in-law.
@momunscripted7191
@momunscripted7191 Ай бұрын
Me. I clicked so fast! Thank you Dr. Ramani.
@MotherErie
@MotherErie Ай бұрын
My fiance at the time, would barely defend me when his mother, grandmother, auntie and sister would say rude and nasty things about me (in my face and behind my back) his grandmother would barge into our home unnanounced, one time as i was undressed fresh oit of the shower and he didn't think to correct that Ultimately, the ladies of his life formulated a lie that i cheated even though i didn't thus ending our engagment...it hurt but im sure it was for the best
@janiecepoush1904
@janiecepoush1904 Ай бұрын
Dr Ramani, As always I learned so much! Your Expertise is unparalleled: You cover Every Scenario, Talk at a pace to cover Miles in one Session in such a way that I can understand & Grasp Easily! You are such a Great Blessing! Thank You, ever Kindly! 🙏🏻 Blessings! ☀️💕🕊🍃
@Anne-zl1ij
@Anne-zl1ij Ай бұрын
Try being married to the scapegoat. I straight out told my husband if we get divorced, it will be because of his family. My scapegoat husband is doing better in life than his goldenchild brother.
@veeraganeshiyer
@veeraganeshiyer Ай бұрын
This video has been a game-changer for me, offering clarity on the issues surrounding my marriage. I am thankful for the wealth of knowledge shared, which has helped me find answers to the questions I had. 👍🙏
@kgalalelodire160
@kgalalelodire160 Ай бұрын
The parents have only boy children, his the golden last born child , we go to church together, the parents used to say such horrible things about me -because I’m beneath them- he is a narcissist himself, I eventually broke things off with him 3 months ago. I feel so disgusted seeing them at church , very nasty people pretending to be nice. We lived together at his house for a few months, whenever I went home for the weekend and the parents visited him, when I return, I’d arrive to the mother completely rearranged the house and decorated with things from her house, it got to me so much , he didn’t see anything wrong but how would he when he was exactly like her. When I broke up with him I told him to marry his mother because no woman would ever stand to be with a man-child like him , two faced, narcissistic, mommy’s boy man. I cried every week living with him, if a few days went by and I was happy he would make sure tears fall down my face and weirdly he got aroused from seeing me upset…disgusting really.
@tomchurch2285
@tomchurch2285 Ай бұрын
A lot of personal stuff here. One is not just marrying a person, but a tribe . . .
@nopereradicator
@nopereradicator Ай бұрын
In this case a cult.
@AlextheENTP
@AlextheENTP Ай бұрын
​@@nopereradicator Yes! A _cult_ is so spot on when you look at that weird incestuous vibe and the toxic loyalty.
@justmichael6628
@justmichael6628 Ай бұрын
When you get to know the surrounding family members and realize you've entered into a Den of Vipers . And at a Family Reunion you see the bigger picture ' because you've now discovered that your surrounded by a Brewed of Vipers .
@anne-vc7bg
@anne-vc7bg Ай бұрын
20:25 👍😎 nice way of implying that you can't go back, only forward. I don't even care if I misinterpreted this Easter egg.😊
@artifundio1
@artifundio1 Ай бұрын
This is not an informative video, THIS IS A TOOL. Best video ever!! ...and I have watched all of Dr Ramani's videos. Many of them more than 3 times. ❤🎉 For my fellow anxious humans reading this, if you want to start healing and you don't know where to start... this is it. You'll understand all the different flavors of narcissism in one painful lesson. Whether you save your relationship or not, you'll never trip with the same stone again. Big win. I was supposed to be "healed" when I bumped into my now ex husband 😅, but I didn't learn this until we where married. I had all the clues before and didn't put them together 😢 because his love bombing lasted 6 years 🤷‍♀️ After we got married he just "went back to the pack", I guess.
@jfny1
@jfny1 Ай бұрын
In my case the golden child my ex is a covert narcassist just like her mother.
@nazaninebrahimi8879
@nazaninebrahimi8879 Ай бұрын
I was married to a narcissistic golden child with similarly narcissistic in-laws 😅 The ultimate stage of this situation
@blackmost
@blackmost Ай бұрын
Through experience, I had to endure with my ex’s narcissistic mother. I wanted to marry my ex. However, when they were together, I would be treated like I wasn’t even there. It’s like my ex had a mask on with me but when the mom is present another mask is present. My ex discard me but tried to return. I realized that the cycle of her and her mother will always continue. I came at peace with her decision. She wasn’t the golden child but she was the youngest one. In my opinion, is the worse to be in a relationship that has a narcissist mother.
@Scentaura123
@Scentaura123 Ай бұрын
Dr. Ramani can i ask you something, what if you realize after 20+ year of marriage that your husband was a golden child and himself a narcissist. You and some other people here on the you tube has given me strength to recognize, accept and break away. Trying to break away, long way to go and an extremely painful one as children are involved. You all are saviors❤
@ErinP79
@ErinP79 Ай бұрын
I’m in the exact same situation It’s torture. All day, every day 😢
@Scentaura123
@Scentaura123 Ай бұрын
@ErinP79 I am so sorry and feel for you ❤️
@Quboingie
@Quboingie Ай бұрын
I love that you left the 20:24 outtake/fumbled read in the video. :-) It made me smile. All of your videos are fantastic- great information that has helped me greatly. Two thumbs up!
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Ай бұрын
I was like, "Wait. What's happening?" 😀
@juliet2756
@juliet2756 Ай бұрын
I have a picture of my dad holding up my baby brother like the baby lion on the Lion King! 😅 He is spoiled, while I am like the slave!
@steveanhiron6764
@steveanhiron6764 Ай бұрын
Love your opening remarks with a swipe of your hands . Good Luck . RUN AWAY is about all I can say . As well as right on , Doc . and Thankyou .
@yurienperez5703
@yurienperez5703 Ай бұрын
YOU COULDN'T HAVE SAID THIS ANY BETTER. LOVE TO HEAR ALOT MORE ON THIS TOPIC. THK YOU!
@lesabrydson2526
@lesabrydson2526 Ай бұрын
Dr. Ramani, God bless you. Power Persevering in Prayers Psalms 1-150🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️🤲🤲🤲
@stevelarrivee3512
@stevelarrivee3512 Ай бұрын
WOW!!! This is the last missing piece of the lifelong puzzle that was my first marriage... I'll need to meditate on it as it has the potential of freeing and giving me hope to become vulnerable again and available for love again.
@Baobabooo
@Baobabooo Ай бұрын
Oh crap. I need to sit down for this…I’m going through a massive problem with my narcissistic in laws right now.
@Baobabooo
@Baobabooo Ай бұрын
Ok. I’m almost done with the video…what a journey…! I’ve been in a 10years long battle with my in laws. They blame me for EVERYTHING. We almost broke up after getting engaged, couldn’t even have a wedding, and the MIL still tries to get my husband’s attention by lying that she’s “dying”. Not gonna lie, it has been such an exhausting journey for me. My husband now sees how toxic his parents are, and is ready to FINALLY cut them off after they decided to turn him into a scapegoat. But I must say, I will always, always fear the day that he chooses his family instead, and if that happens, I’m ready to leave. I am still hopeful though…fingers crossed.
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Ай бұрын
@@Baobabooo Good luck to you. I'm in a similar boat.
@Baobabooo
@Baobabooo Ай бұрын
@@websurfer5772then good luck to you, too! I hope you get everything you deserve in the future❤
@pwhite5411
@pwhite5411 Ай бұрын
I have a malignant narcissistic mother and vulnerable narcissist mother in law. I have little and nothing to do with either. My spouse “ sort of sees it” but will never defend me to his mother and will always defend her. Radical acceptance and boundaries have been huge.
@mrs.nyneaderthal640
@mrs.nyneaderthal640 13 күн бұрын
Yes! My GC husband is very sweet and adopted my first son from a prior marriage. The toxic narcissism of his mother didn't show itself until we had our first child together. 40 years later I went no contact after she tried and failed to turn that child , our daughter, against me. She's still at it after 3 years NC and I see now that she won't give it up until she passes away. Ugh.
@alrinaleroux9229
@alrinaleroux9229 Ай бұрын
"Sun rising in the East" -- yes, I think that's witty and appropriate 🌅👏
@anjalis2728
@anjalis2728 20 күн бұрын
You have described each and every detail perfectly. I'm an Indian married to first born son who's golden child(covert narc) of grandiose Mil. She did love bombing until I had child n later immediately turned into a witch. It was so toxic and horrible living in joint family without any support from my husband. I wasn't able to get mil n her son's abnormal behavior for 6-7yrs. Until then I had lost my job, peace of mind, confidence being confused n humiliated. Finally I decided to move out of husband home and live in another city to maintain my sanity and protect my child. I'm planning wget legally separated because though now my Mil has died my husband is still arrogant n typical covert narc. His sister is the perfect enabler and his younger brother is space goat and indirect enabler. It's a horrible family just as you described. Thanks for validating our feelings n situation s
@lauram3247
@lauram3247 Ай бұрын
As expected, another insightful video, Dr. Ramani, thank you. In addition to Dr. Ramani’s book, I recommend The Emotional Incest Syndrome by Patricia Love and When He’s Married to Mom by Kenneth Adams.
@pragmaticpoet
@pragmaticpoet Ай бұрын
Great movie for this one is 'Ready or Not' 😎🍿
@AlextheENTP
@AlextheENTP Ай бұрын
I just commented about _Monster-in-Law,_ I'll add this one to my watch list too!
@shaylinedmond2256
@shaylinedmond2256 Ай бұрын
So thankful my “golden child” husband realized his mom is a narcissist. It’s possible and I'm so grateful! 🙏
@JStarPeaks
@JStarPeaks Ай бұрын
I never thought of my kids father as a golden child until you said they went disconnect from toxic family because they benefit from them.... wow
@camille.anderson
@camille.anderson Ай бұрын
After 16 yrs married to a golden child, and 9 years divorced but still co-parenting, this is too triggering to watch (yet)
@websurfer5772
@websurfer5772 Ай бұрын
It's really good and supportive but take your time deciding if or when to watch it. Good for you for knowing how to look out for yourself.
@jessl1984
@jessl1984 Ай бұрын
And if your partner is also a narcissist, just tap out asap 😂
@tribecalledmaya
@tribecalledmaya Ай бұрын
!!
@veggiet2009
@veggiet2009 Ай бұрын
I almost didn't listen because i am/was the golden child, but I'm single. But i was gratified to learn that it will be better now that i am aware of my narcissist parent... But then i remembered that i just came out to them as gay, and when i marry I'm pretty sure i will be planted firmly in the scapegoat camp so i won't have to worry about this 😅 #silverlinings lol
@Gerberdaisy5380
@Gerberdaisy5380 Ай бұрын
You just described my ex in laws to a tee. It was a nightmare! He’s 42 years old and back in his childhood room because they won’t make him accountable for anything even though they clearly see his life is a mess. He doesn’t take care of his kids but I’m sure I’m to blame for all of it.
@MaseOne
@MaseOne Ай бұрын
I divorced my in laws. My spouse had to make a choice. I was decisive clear and absolute. After over 20yrs of marriage , I decided no more…My spouse finally saw it so clear it could not be denied..
@saritasingh884
@saritasingh884 Ай бұрын
this is the only solution I guess...
@jenniferwaidelich642
@jenniferwaidelich642 Ай бұрын
OMG, "I know him better than you, and always will no matter how long you're married to him"......and my husband..."I don't see how my grandmother treats you" lolllll Dr. Ramani is so right on!
@lovli31
@lovli31 Ай бұрын
I love Dr. Ramani!❤❤ endless gems as usual 😊
@mattlacasse5828
@mattlacasse5828 Ай бұрын
9:49 😂😂 Wasn't expecting that from you.... 😅😅
@vsanchez4336
@vsanchez4336 Ай бұрын
God Yahweh Bless and keep you and your team for this ! I feel seen and heard . Thank you 🎉
@Creation21502
@Creation21502 Ай бұрын
I feel silly asking this, but my sister has referred to me on many occasions as the golden child. I take this as a negative, demeaning comment. She categorically says it’s a positive and uplifting label. I completely disagree. Am I wrong to think this?? A few side notes. I believe my sister is 100% a narcissist and She was always jealous of me, but will NEVER admit it. There is a significant age gap between us. In no way do I think either one of my parents was a narcissist.
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