Dodge Challenger 392 Scat Pack vs 1967 Dodge Coronet RT Hemi | STOCK DRAG RACE

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Cars And Zebras

Cars And Zebras

2 жыл бұрын

1967 Dodge Coronet R/T Hemi vs Dodge Challenger 392 Hemi Scat Pack Shaker. Factory stock drag race. pure stock muscle car drag race.
First car is a 1967 Dodge Coronet, the other a Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Shaker. The Coronet has a 426 hemi V8, the Scat Pack has a 392 V8. The Challenger Scat Pack 392 was rated 485 net horsepower, while the 426 Hemi Coronet R/T was rated 425 gross horsepower. Both cars have a TorqueFlite automatic transmission: the Coronet R/T is a 3-speed auto, the Challenger Scat Pack is an 8-speed auto. Rear gearing in the Scat Pack Challenger is 3.09, while the Hemi Coronet R/T has an aggressive 4.30 set. Curb weight for the 1967 Coronet R/T with a hemi is 3726 pounds, and the Challenger 392 hemi scat pack shaker is a whopping 4239 pounds. There were only 162 automatic equipped Dodge hemi Coronet R/T cars built in 1967.
Remember, both cars participate in Factory Stock class through F.A.S.T drag racing. Make sure you visit their website. www.fastdrags.com.
Here are the Factory Stock rules:
Rules
For 1955 to 1979 muscle cars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Drivetrain:
Automatic Transmissions: The transmission and torque converter must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Shift improver kits are allowed. After-market shifters are not allowed. No manual valve bodies. No lightweight internal components allowed.
Manual Transmissions: The transmission must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. 3-speeds may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
Rear Axles:
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed. Driveshaft safety loops are mandatory on all cars 13.99 and faster!
Engine:
Must be factory correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Dealer installed engines and dealer performed engine modifications are not allowed. Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Modifications are prohibited. Blocks do not have to be "numbers-matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only. NO strokers! Random P&G checks are possible. Compression may be increased to the greater of NHRA allowable stock blue print or 1.5 over advertised compression. NHRA
Electrical System:
The battery must be retained in the original location and securely fastened down with the original style hold down. The charging system must be fully operational at all times.
Fuel System and Carburetor:
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Valve Train:
The complete valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Rocker arm ratio must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed. Roller tip rockers allowed as long as correct ratio is used.
Camshaft:
The camshaft must be correct for the model, year, and horsepower claimed for duration, lift, and type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). No roller cams allowed.
Exhaust:
Cast iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. NO internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. The exhaust system may be upgraded to a maximum of 2.5-inch head and tail pipes.
Ignition System:
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
Suspension:
Front Suspension: Stock springs and shocks must be retained. Drag springs and shocks that allow excessive lift during launches are NOT allowed.
Rear Suspension: Traction devices are limited to hop-stop bars for the upper control arms on coil-spring cars. Pinion snubbers and clamping of springs are allowed on leaf-spring cars.
Tires & Wheels:
Reproduction tires or radial tires only. No soft compound tires of any kind allowed. Retread tires are not allowed. Use of traction compounds or rubber-softening chemicals on tires are strictly prohibited.
Disclaimer: The Cars And Zebras KZbin channel is a news channel bringing results/news of drag racing with added history of automobiles. All footage/pictures used were either captured by the Cars And Zebras channel, or used for critique purposes under Fair Use.

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@bobmizoski9669
@bobmizoski9669 2 жыл бұрын
All that power and money and it still only runs a 11.... Oh and since they're big heavy boats going around a track also isn't their Forte... these cars are for people who want to show other people how small their "tool' is
@hisss7926
@hisss7926 2 жыл бұрын
You seem very obsessed with "men's tools". Do you not have one you fondle all day considering you don't even understand such basic concepts as power-weight ratio? Clearly no woman can distract you from your quest to touch as many men's tools as you desire....
@ianberry5879
@ianberry5879 2 жыл бұрын
The only people who make fun of other's cars with asinine class characteristic observations, bring up money invested, and make dick size swipes, are just showing their own jealousy and insecurity.
@guns942
@guns942 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@bwtv147
@bwtv147 2 жыл бұрын
@@ianberry5879 Penis size burns are plan A for liberals. It makes me wonder how big a penis must be to satisfy a lib.
@CDarb1881
@CDarb1881 2 жыл бұрын
lmao you are the absolute biggest loser. The irony of YOU of all people saying that is just beyond unbelievable lmao
@garybattaglia4009
@garybattaglia4009 2 жыл бұрын
The driver of the Coronet has been drag racing since 1967 (at least). His launch out of the hole showed that he knows exactly what he is doing...holy crap....
@Chris-jm4zk
@Chris-jm4zk 2 жыл бұрын
Rear end swap helps too.
@johndeeregreen4592
@johndeeregreen4592 2 жыл бұрын
The dude cut the light like a pro, for sure!
@noaht5191
@noaht5191 2 жыл бұрын
I think those slicks and a 4.30 & -500 pounds had a little something to do with it as well.
@jefftaylor1247
@jefftaylor1247 2 жыл бұрын
The driver has some serious launch skills. With that much power it would have been easy to roast the tires.
@Litauen-yg9ut
@Litauen-yg9ut 2 жыл бұрын
Old man strength, gotta watch 'em
@johnhenry8424
@johnhenry8424 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes Old School is the way to go. O.K. it's always the way to go
@thegrimmer
@thegrimmer 2 жыл бұрын
I bet your opinion changes on the ride home. That trailer queen wouldn't make it 100 miles
@johnhenry8424
@johnhenry8424 2 жыл бұрын
@@thegrimmer At least I could fix it without Bill Gates and Mopar standing by
@supershop6831
@supershop6831 2 жыл бұрын
@John Henry thank you and also you forgot it can be fixed without needing a computer or diagnostic machine 🔧
@antoniobattle2036
@antoniobattle2036 2 жыл бұрын
I will go old school every day of the week....
@petergoodwin2465
@petergoodwin2465 2 жыл бұрын
Can't beat a carburetor.
@doncnunez6231
@doncnunez6231 2 жыл бұрын
1967 Dodge, when a Real Hemi shows up on the Track and shows you hows it's Done !!
@charlieandhudsonspal1312
@charlieandhudsonspal1312 Жыл бұрын
That was great
@RedXWorld
@RedXWorld 4 ай бұрын
Idk …
@goneshootin61
@goneshootin61 2 жыл бұрын
The coronet took off like a bat out of hell , impressive !
@Guardian4ever
@Guardian4ever 2 жыл бұрын
Dodge 426 hemi to the scat pack "I'm going to put some dirt in your eye"
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap 2 жыл бұрын
👍🤣
@chuckgross6024
@chuckgross6024 2 жыл бұрын
Why does it seem that 67 was way faster than it should have been? Lol wow!
@1badhaircut
@1badhaircut 2 жыл бұрын
street hemis were de-tuned to sell legally and put-back to race-spec (as much as possible) for FAST class. Essentially a “Sleeper” set-up.
@johndeeregreen4592
@johndeeregreen4592 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of those street Hemi engines ran into the 12s on shit tires back in the day. Mopar underrated their engines to the Nth degree.
@paulanger2048
@paulanger2048 2 жыл бұрын
The tires are better. That's why Landy started moving the rear axle forward. Not sure how much difference it would make here.
@BruceLee-xn3nn
@BruceLee-xn3nn 2 жыл бұрын
Back then they lied like hell about actual hp numbers.
@lb9gta307
@lb9gta307 2 жыл бұрын
Because they're allowed to make some changes in Factory Stock like the mentioned shorter than stock rear gears its running
@davidbattaglia2336
@davidbattaglia2336 2 жыл бұрын
It takes a hemi to catch a hemi, except when it can’t - Confucius
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 2 жыл бұрын
Liked that one
@calebrose4607
@calebrose4607 2 жыл бұрын
holy hell, that Coronet is really impressive!! 11.01 in the quarter mile is insanely fast!! especially for a big, American land yacht from the pre-smog era
@rotaryray
@rotaryray 2 жыл бұрын
125 mph quarter mile ain't no measley 425 HP 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Uptown59
@Uptown59 2 жыл бұрын
That Hemi RT maybe a "land yacht" today, but it wasn't back then.
@orbitty1354
@orbitty1354 2 жыл бұрын
@@Uptown59 back then it was a mid-size car.
@georgewetzel4380
@georgewetzel4380 2 жыл бұрын
Hey idiot, this is not a land yacht.
@jdgreen214
@jdgreen214 2 жыл бұрын
That rear wheel gearing is super aggressive. probably gets about 5 miles to a gallon. I have a 442 restomod with a olds 445 and my rear gearing was a 2.78 and a camaro ss only beat me by a half of car length. If my rear gearing was at least 3.42 that camaro would have ate my dust.
@mikeriv60
@mikeriv60 2 жыл бұрын
Original owner. Damn !!
@jamesblair9614
@jamesblair9614 2 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of seeing that R/T, it’s beautiful and obviously in fine tune with a 125 mph trap speed. Auto on the column, some people laugh, but who needs the extra weight and complexity of all that console shift mechanism, it was optioned as a race car, I approve!
@SoI_Badguy
@SoI_Badguy 2 жыл бұрын
Always will prefer an auto car to be on the column.
@brandaneakright6082
@brandaneakright6082 2 жыл бұрын
The 426 hemi cars were monsters and still are they were way underrated, but you throw in some 4.30 gears and you got a rocket. Both cars ran really good, but nothing beats the old school muscle.
@bwtv147
@bwtv147 2 жыл бұрын
Dragsters continued running the 392 hemis from the 50s long after the 426 was introduced. They only started switching after Chrysler quit supporting the old engine.
@danielmeadows9821
@danielmeadows9821 2 жыл бұрын
Old school 🤙🏼
@DoctorMotorcycle
@DoctorMotorcycle 2 жыл бұрын
The trap speed tells the whole story. I recall after digging into it a few years ago that the quickest trap speed recorded back in the day was 108 out of a 427 corvette if I remember right, the best Hemi trap speed by Car and Driver was 107MPH, same for the mightly LS6 454 chevelle. This "stock" Coronet went 126mph lol come on. A 3,700lb car would need 600+ crank HP to trap 126, so either it has a ton of weight reduction, or it's making a lot more power than stock.
@mocharger06
@mocharger06 2 жыл бұрын
NHRA factored the 426 Hemi at well over 535 HP. Thats how Chevy got the NHRA to keep adding weight to Hemi cars until they were no longer competitive. NASCAR made Hemi teams destroke them to a 5 liter maximum displacement.
@philiptripi6106
@philiptripi6106 2 жыл бұрын
The Elephant had about 500-550 at the crank
@Litauen-yg9ut
@Litauen-yg9ut 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, but Dude, alot of those old cars were not even tuned properly off the showroom. Get them set up right and all of a sudden you got a rocket. Then change a few parts an holy Shitte. Plus the Coronet has a gearing advantage for the 1/4. The Chall would eat him in the long run no prob.
@mocharger06
@mocharger06 2 жыл бұрын
@@Litauen-yg9ut , a lot of those cars weren't tuned properly after the owner got them home.
@mocharger06
@mocharger06 2 жыл бұрын
Look up the class record for A stock, which is the class a 67 Hemi Coronet would be in. I already have, the class record is 10.45. So, for all you people saying that there's no way that's a stock Coronet, nuff said.
@joltinjack
@joltinjack 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! That 4.3 : 1 gear ratio and lower weight really paid off; however, that 425 HP rating at the factory flywheel is under-rated, IMO. I think it's closer to 500. That was a great launch by the Coronet R/T.
@e-wing6200
@e-wing6200 2 жыл бұрын
426 Hemi's religiously put down 490-500hp on dynos. Dodge stated "425hp at 5000rpm"...while that's not a lie, it's more like a half-truth. 426's rev out maximum power at anywhere from 6100-6400rpm; which is where you see the true power of those beasts come to life.
@karlsracing8422
@karlsracing8422 2 жыл бұрын
I want that 392 in my 3,300lb Duster!
@SweatyFatGuy
@SweatyFatGuy 2 жыл бұрын
If I could find one cheap enough, I would stuff it in my 70 Cuda, then maybe it would get out of its own way. Its the slowest muscle car I own with its 340.
@gregabell4799
@gregabell4799 2 жыл бұрын
@@SweatyFatGuy or just do like Mr. Norm did to the '72 340 GSS Demon - through a Paxton supercharger on it
@gary9426
@gary9426 2 жыл бұрын
The '67 R/Ts are one of my all-time favorite Mopars ..and with the Hemi, very formidable. Nice to see the Old School shut down the New. Great race!
@onedge70moparsuperbee23
@onedge70moparsuperbee23 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison of old and new muscle cars. Thx!:)
@jonros5854
@jonros5854 2 жыл бұрын
I take that old skool anytime 🚗💨💨💯
@Spunky-iq8jm
@Spunky-iq8jm 2 жыл бұрын
The Coronet wasn't stock. Far from it. A beautiful car regardless.
@payneasylum469
@payneasylum469 2 жыл бұрын
agree, not even close to stock.
@lb9gta307
@lb9gta307 2 жыл бұрын
No one said it was stock. C&Z even mentioned the not stock rear gears in it.
@ricktaylor3748
@ricktaylor3748 2 жыл бұрын
These one (1) run races drive me crazy, they need 3 races. God job Cars And Zebras !!!
@rotaryray
@rotaryray 2 жыл бұрын
125 mph quarter is a lot more than 425 horsepower. It's closer 475 at the tire . Awesome car
@e-wing6200
@e-wing6200 2 жыл бұрын
426's tested from private dynos very consistently put down 490-500rwhp...if that tells you anything lol.
@TheJMan1K
@TheJMan1K 2 жыл бұрын
@@e-wing6200 stock or lightly modded Hemis from that era were laying down 470 wheel?
@crunchyearwax
@crunchyearwax 2 жыл бұрын
That coronet was not bone stock. I did love how it smacked the scat pack
@jdsrcs8061
@jdsrcs8061 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the saying "Don't mess dad he has that old man strength!!! Great vid with to beautiful cars!!!🤘🤘🤘
@louiskats5116
@louiskats5116 2 жыл бұрын
Goodday C & Z, Absolutely awesome. The Coronet looks at the Challenger & says " Son you have abit of growing up to do before you can catch me " Love the colour, idle & body lines on the Coronet. Challenger not my cup of tea. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
@gcrauwels941
@gcrauwels941 2 жыл бұрын
As my first car was a '67 Coronet 318/727, I have a biased opinion. 😆 That R/T is badass.
@johnwilkerson2195
@johnwilkerson2195 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Mopar man but I'd rather have the Coronet 426 hemi
@IRastalion
@IRastalion 2 жыл бұрын
I am a chevy guy and still take the coronet.
@chevyblue10
@chevyblue10 2 жыл бұрын
"but"?
@briandungan515
@briandungan515 2 жыл бұрын
Two words "track prep"
@turdferguson4124
@turdferguson4124 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I took one look at those race tires on the back of that Challenger and thought it would make quick work of the old R/T. Boy was I wrong. I couldn’t help but laugh when the old school ‘67 left the Scat Pack for dead and never looked back.
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap 2 жыл бұрын
same here!
@68dart
@68dart 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome , Thanks C&Z
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@hardwurk2012
@hardwurk2012 2 жыл бұрын
That coronet rt is fast,i have a cousin back home in georgia with a brown dodge coronet its not a rt though. Beautiful car when you see it in person.
@dragginwagon406
@dragginwagon406 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! My Monte and that Scat Pack would be a great race!
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 2 жыл бұрын
very true 👍
@daltonhanleyjr4142
@daltonhanleyjr4142 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@DiecastNewb
@DiecastNewb 2 жыл бұрын
Dang what a beauty that Coronet is!!! 😍😍💪🏼
@johnnyboyssite
@johnnyboyssite 2 жыл бұрын
11.9s for the Scat is actually very good if it is stock. The old Hemi is just Plain BEASTLY though… thinking about it Zebra, this HEMI car may be the fastest stock looking car ( FAST racing class ) that you ever recorded in your vids?
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 2 жыл бұрын
Quickest one I’ve shown, but I have footage of a quicker one. That is actually a factory stock car (a stricter class in fast, like Pure Stock). FAST runs deep into the 9s.
@whaleonitduster3402
@whaleonitduster3402 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras Now that sounds beastly!
@JrGoonior
@JrGoonior 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarsAndZebras A certain black 71 HEMI Cuda comes to mind. Running high 9's in the FAST class.
@johnwesley9000
@johnwesley9000 2 жыл бұрын
392 Scat Pack is on the record books as 11.7 seconds as a naturally aspirated motor.
@johnnyboyssite
@johnnyboyssite 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwesley9000 would it be the 1320 limited edition ?
@AMCguy
@AMCguy 2 жыл бұрын
These new cars weigh like twice the amount of that old beauty
@rodneybrand8521
@rodneybrand8521 2 жыл бұрын
Never had a doubt about the coronet..🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@skatpak2967
@skatpak2967 2 жыл бұрын
I HAD A GREEN ONE AS WELL..but now ive got a smoke show 2021 Scatpak...i love these cars!! had a 2016 hellcat as well!! these dodge cars are the best!! love em
@dukedavis8950
@dukedavis8950 2 жыл бұрын
Wow my mothers cornet didn't didn't run like that lol 😆. Love the video I wish it was best of 3 that would have been really cool.
@wrotenwasp
@wrotenwasp 2 жыл бұрын
Old school rocks. At 58 I dont do much messing around with street racing but I lined up with a Charger scat pack last summer with my 86 Olds 442. 1968 Olds 350, turbo 350, 650 DP, 10" converter/3.73s . I had to roll out to 20 then stomp on it...no traction control here. When I hit it at 20 I pulled nearly a car length then by 70mph when I let out of it, I had him by close to 1.5 car lengths but for a 4400 pound tank, that was close vs my 3500 pound Olds. Very impressive for a stock, high tech land yacht.
@xXcashXx3
@xXcashXx3 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that coronet is fast the fastest stock shaker i seen went 11.50 that that woulda still lost
@jeremyg7975
@jeremyg7975 2 жыл бұрын
That coronet was fantastic
@deadhead7930
@deadhead7930 2 жыл бұрын
Frak yeah. Scat pack is solid
@harleyvulcancobra4.619
@harleyvulcancobra4.619 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That RT hemi is fast! Both are great cars! 125 in a quarter is fast!
@davidkeller2832
@davidkeller2832 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised by that trap speed too. I thought the engine would run out of rpms before that given the rear gearing choice.
@BruceLee-xn3nn
@BruceLee-xn3nn 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidkeller2832 426 hemi was the high rpm motor
@davidkeller2832
@davidkeller2832 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceLee-xn3nn True but I don't know the rpm where the driver is shifting gears. I had a 1973 Mercury Montego with 4.11:1 rear end and I would pull shifts at 5,500 rpm. Factor in the 14" tires and the top speed was 88 mph. The hemi supposedly hits peak HP at 5,000 rpm but does have bigger tires. This is why I was puzzled with that 125 mph trap speed (haven't worked the math on probable tire size to figure out the rpms he was hitting).
@solodad001
@solodad001 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidkeller2832 I think you can run it to 6400 rpm safely.
@sabba_dabba8649
@sabba_dabba8649 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa ho ho! Loved seeing this. Very sweet
@martinstyblo6355
@martinstyblo6355 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyable race! Great to see both old and contemporary one (with the old-school look and heritage though) side by side. I would be glad for 15 s with my little heavy V6 (Chally GT AWD)🙂But she's ment to cruise, not to race on track... Greetings from mid-Europe.
@jackmioff9919
@jackmioff9919 2 жыл бұрын
People don’t seem to realize the coronet is going to walk the 392 every singe time because although it is badged as an RT under the hood is a 426 hemi
@natemofield281
@natemofield281 2 жыл бұрын
Challenger driver got caught sleeping at the wheel.
@georgewetzel4380
@georgewetzel4380 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE the Coronet
@shedred1967
@shedred1967 2 жыл бұрын
Both beautiful yet that 1967 brute is AMAZING!!!!!
@tonymahan1211
@tonymahan1211 2 жыл бұрын
Wow nice!!!
@brianmaynard7320
@brianmaynard7320 2 жыл бұрын
That Coronet hauled ASS!! Nice run!!
@doncnunez6231
@doncnunez6231 2 жыл бұрын
More like Whooped some Ass!! 🤣
@XBobbyVegasX
@XBobbyVegasX 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man that idle!!
@gimmesomesugar
@gimmesomesugar 2 жыл бұрын
That Challenger is gorgeous.
@c.wdervin5987
@c.wdervin5987 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool race but that 426 must’ve had some work done to it….. I’d say the 4:30 backend helped a lot. And if nothings drastic done to the 426, then I’m impressed 😛😛😛
@bwtv147
@bwtv147 2 жыл бұрын
125 MPH with a 4.30 rear end is turning some serious RPM.
@3-2-1-.
@3-2-1-. 2 жыл бұрын
If the Challenger could shave the 500 extra pounds, it would be close. The reaction times of both drivers weren't even close. The Coronet had a full car on the Challenger at 30'.
@srt8rocketship241
@srt8rocketship241 2 жыл бұрын
I want a first gen. 426 so bad. Really want the stroker 572 though. Street beast. I'm thinkin' the '67 was tweaked a bit. Love it.
@stevepick9527
@stevepick9527 2 жыл бұрын
Now that’s how to cut a perfect green! As for someone else’s comment about shaving two seconds off of a stock time, it’s because Of the stiffer rear gears and better tires than in ‘67.
@Carguylogan
@Carguylogan 2 жыл бұрын
Partly. Those cars sure as shit didn't trap 125 mph off the showroom floor in 1970 though. They do a lot of engine work in this class. Factory castings are required but heads can be ported, camshaft must have stock lift but they don't limit duration, LSA and valve timing. They do a lot to these engines.
@kentuckytim4443
@kentuckytim4443 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather owned a Dodge Coronet RT similar to this one. My uncle said, the first time he drove it, he found out that when you went to pass someone, you had to pull out in the passing lane before tromping down on the accelerator in order to avoid running into the car you were passing.
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. The 1967 had the lead from the start. It's tires will work better traction wise in the cold temperature. The new one, not so. My 2004 Z06 tires don't work worth sh t in colder temperatures. Also the lighter weight is a plus. So is the "real Hemi". I'm an old Mopar man with a few 440 magnums behind me. Great video. Thanks for posting this cause I've wondered about the "NEW" ones. I used to own an old "real" 392 Hemi engine.
@gloriamaletta8667
@gloriamaletta8667 2 жыл бұрын
3700 pounds to 4200 pounds with equal power and traction equals 4 to 5 tenths of a second slower
@BruceLee-xn3nn
@BruceLee-xn3nn 2 жыл бұрын
In other words the newer one should have raced another heavy turd.
@gloriamaletta8667
@gloriamaletta8667 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceLee-xn3nn no the newer engine should have been in a 1971 Demon or Duster
@FullTimeGT
@FullTimeGT 2 жыл бұрын
To acheive 11.01s 1/4 mile the R/T has lot more power than 425HP, maybe with also weight reduction, numbers not match up. To achieve the 11.01s with 425hp the car's weight should be around 2600lbs. Also it is mentionned that the 426 had 425 "Gross Horsepower", meaning that the measurement was done engine on a stand without any accessories, ie ideal conditions. The R/T's engine was surely modified. Nevertheless 11s @125mph for a 1967 car with most of it's original mechanical components is badass. Much respect for the driver of this car, hope he had enough brakes to stop by the end of the runaway!
@mrkemblegilstrap
@mrkemblegilstrap 2 жыл бұрын
awesome!
@peteragersea377
@peteragersea377 Жыл бұрын
Boy that coronet sounded as good as it looked and went even faster
@gzuzsavz
@gzuzsavz 2 жыл бұрын
Gears. 4.30 gear is pure 1/4 mile perfection..the 3.08 gear on the Chally ofc is for all around driving. That + the lighter weight spelled out a big W for the Coronet. I have all
@tcjohnson3437
@tcjohnson3437 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Coronet ! A little something in here, and a little something back there goes a long way. If he ever wants to sell it, name your price. I'll write you the check.
@serooney77
@serooney77 2 жыл бұрын
That cornet is dialed in👍🇺🇸
@chevyblue10
@chevyblue10 2 жыл бұрын
Why no mention of the year model of the Scat Pack? There is no way that's not intentional. I see no one in the stands so I'm guessing this is not an "official" race where the rules apply? That's obviously not a pre-1980 Scat Pack Dodge, (as per the rules). Almost as obvious is the sound of that cam in the '67 R/T...I could be wrong, (I usually am)...but it doesn't sound like stock duration to me. Anyway, who cares. That is one badass 426 hemi R/T!!! Fun to see it run! Even more fun seeing old school beating new school! Thanks to the owner for keeping it doing what it was built to do and thanks C&Z for sharing this with us! (Miss the jokes, btw. Please bring them back.)
@issaf3676
@issaf3676 2 жыл бұрын
11.01!? That’s insane. That’s hellcat fast
@thomasconnolly7452
@thomasconnolly7452 2 жыл бұрын
I guess there is no school like old school. That was impressive.
@chevyblue10
@chevyblue10 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the videos from a year or so ago as compared to this one...no comparison really. The jokes, the special effects, the price comparisons etc...just like this race, old school beats new school by a long shot. I know how much effort it must take, but please bring back the old ways #CarsAndZebras !!!
@robertgembala8532
@robertgembala8532 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@ianberry5879
@ianberry5879 2 жыл бұрын
392s pull hard on the top end, their weakness is in the launch, getting a car that's over 2 tons moving without spinning is a problem. It's fairly evident from the video, the crusty old salt with decades of experience and a thorough understanding of his car's abilities, made his lighter, higher geared car launch about as well as it possibly could have, the 392 didn't have enough time/distance to overtake him by the time he got his car up to the point it started to pull hard.
@1972Ventura455ho
@1972Ventura455ho 2 жыл бұрын
The 392 had drag radial so spinning shouldn't been a problem. Also remember the 392 has a 8 speed trans.
@THROTTLEPOWER
@THROTTLEPOWER 2 жыл бұрын
Cool!!!! 👍👍👍
@orbitty1354
@orbitty1354 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I know what's gonna happen. Nothing beats old school.
@rustyshaklferd1897
@rustyshaklferd1897 2 жыл бұрын
Can we run it stock but with just modern wheels and tyres?
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 2 жыл бұрын
Who do you choose? New, or old?
@futon02
@futon02 2 жыл бұрын
Old
@frankrizzo2724
@frankrizzo2724 2 жыл бұрын
Can't afford either... so ford Taurus I guess. An old one...
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankrizzo2724 Taurus SHO?
@chrisdooley6468
@chrisdooley6468 2 жыл бұрын
Almost always old school, unless old school had an inline 6 and no performance model lol
@chrisdooley6468
@chrisdooley6468 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankrizzo2724 like an SHO? That’ll work believe me lol
@emerylandry2074
@emerylandry2074 2 жыл бұрын
I love the old mopars. Especially the 67 B bodies. But that cornet is far from stock.
@MikeShelby67
@MikeShelby67 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I like Mopar all around but that Coronet ran a little faster than stock.
@72RR446
@72RR446 2 жыл бұрын
The R/T is a Factory Appearing Stock Tire car, the Challenger was at a disadvantage from the start.
@sandyadams1737
@sandyadams1737 2 жыл бұрын
This class is "stock appearing"... Anything that can't be seen from the outside can be modified. The engine & tranny internals are heavily worked over. Even the rear gear ratio isn't factory. But at a car show where the car is shut off & parked, you'd never know. Perfect example is Dave Dudek & his 1971 Hemicuda. Now THAT car is insane !!!
@CarsAndZebras
@CarsAndZebras 2 жыл бұрын
No, it isn’t. This is factory stock. Dudek is in another open class of FAST. read the description box.
@americanpatriot3638
@americanpatriot3638 2 жыл бұрын
Grandpa SPANKED that youngster!!
@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus
@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 426 in the Coronet has a bit more stroke than as delivered, say 4.375? (496 C.I.)
@johnnysalazar5163
@johnnysalazar5163 2 жыл бұрын
4.3 is a v6 or a small v8
@jimmywilkinson9190
@jimmywilkinson9190 2 жыл бұрын
He is saying 4 and 3/8 stroke.
@jimmywilkinson9190
@jimmywilkinson9190 2 жыл бұрын
@Your Pappy It sure took the hole shoot. the 4.30 gears . it also had top end ?
@jimmywilkinson9190
@jimmywilkinson9190 2 жыл бұрын
@Your Pappy 4340 H-beam rods
@johnnysalazar5163
@johnnysalazar5163 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmywilkinson9190 right, I forgot, but I think it's unlikely that it's a stroker
@rb67mustang
@rb67mustang 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing an old Classic Win against the Expensive modern go fast toys. I know the 67 Coronet is a 1 owner car, but was the owner the person who kicked butt in this challenge?
@aaronbritt2025
@aaronbritt2025 2 жыл бұрын
That 426 is race class "stock", not stock. It ran 14's stock.
@lanzcossom8844
@lanzcossom8844 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing like the ol skool.
@danhillman4523
@danhillman4523 2 жыл бұрын
11.01??? Holy Cow! That thing flies.
@63MacGuy
@63MacGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I thought new would take it. That R/T flew
@roaddoggypsy
@roaddoggypsy 2 жыл бұрын
Old school 👍
@adammoffatt3832
@adammoffatt3832 2 жыл бұрын
The original 426 best sounding v8 ever and go pretty damn good its a cool beast.
@BMan100
@BMan100 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, curb weight and tire size is a factor, my 2021 scat pack has 275’s and a 6 spf and it’s still hard to hook up even ina rolling start. But! You can drive it every day pretty much in comfort and not worry about some aspects…like crash protection…bigger and better brakes etc etc.
@TheJMan1K
@TheJMan1K 2 жыл бұрын
Get a diff brace to cut wheel hop worked on mine pretty good and I’d hook with Nittos or MIckeys. Remove rear seats, replace the fronts with light weight seats, light weight bumper supports, 4.10 gears, light battery, and FBO get these cars into the low 11s. A NSR cam from mmx that just drops in also gains you 30-40whp. Upgrade the valve springs so you can rev higher reliably. That’s about all you can do without going crazy and deleting AC or radio.
@BMan100
@BMan100 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheJMan1K thanks for the tips but I'll keep it stock, she is my daily after all lol
@joshuacohn2004
@joshuacohn2004 2 жыл бұрын
Scat pak was faster than I thought it would be
@ct87gn25
@ct87gn25 2 жыл бұрын
Many have run 11.70's stock. It's all about the launch!
@johnmarshall3903
@johnmarshall3903 2 жыл бұрын
@@ct87gn25 What is the best way to launch, leave in 2nd gear maybe or feather the throttle from idle?
@yaboistu9448
@yaboistu9448 Жыл бұрын
Rule number 1 never mess with the old man
@beeee4482
@beeee4482 2 жыл бұрын
Sublime also
@mikekratzer699
@mikekratzer699 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell coming out of the waterbox who's the badass.
@johnnysalazar5399
@johnnysalazar5399 Жыл бұрын
Tire technology really helps the car like they should
@marinegunny826
@marinegunny826 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 The Coronet WALKED him! The guy in the Challenger must've been playing on his iPhone and didn't see the Christmas tree.
@paullacey2999
@paullacey2999 2 жыл бұрын
They are both winners to me🙂
@kimmorrison9169
@kimmorrison9169 2 жыл бұрын
I like it better when you show this Coronet run again’st the L88 Vettes. One fast well prepared ‘67. How old is the owner by the way if he bought it new?
@Red-rl1xx
@Red-rl1xx 2 жыл бұрын
80+ surely.
@krisberkowski5973
@krisberkowski5973 2 жыл бұрын
My friends dad has a 67 Coronet R/T bought new special order 86k original miles,paint,motor and interior. Black paint gold stripe and gold interior still smells like new.
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