Dodge Challenger vs Ford Mustang vs Chevy Camaro - Who Makes The Best Muscle/Performance Car?

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Gonin60

Gonin60

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@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Here is what I would add since posting: Camaro is the smoothest and best shifting manual. Dodge is second and the Mustang with the MT82 is last. Mustang is the best value/cheapest with the Camaro not far behind. However, when you consider everything the Camaro comes with it really is a great deal. Most technology - I would give this to a Camaro 2ss with a Mustang closely in 2nd. Best sound system - Camaro with those Bose. I had the B&O in my Mustang and wasn’t overly impressed. Hartman Kardon is okay. Lastly, guys I love cars. I don’t care the make or model. This is me being fair and giving my honest assessment. I don’t have bias towards any brand. This is meant to help those looking at cars to provide a perspective from someone who has owned all 3.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
@@clintonlunn4357 it’s tough to say. My Camaro feels more harsh because it’s the track package but it is still very smooth. The Mustangs was good and rode great. I didn’t have magnaride in the Challenger.
@robbydragi
@robbydragi 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed that the Camaro Tremec is by far the best. But in terms of feel I'll take the Mustang MT82 over the Challenger. My Scat Pack shifter feels like a tractor
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbydragi if I didn’t have the grinding of the Mt82 it would have been fine. It did feel lighter and cheaper. I was always worried about breaking a shift fork. The challenger shifts like an old muscle car
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 2 жыл бұрын
I changed my stock Mustang GT Clutch Assist Spring out with a Steeda. Makes a world of difference in feel. I don't have any grinding issues, but I'm also in my 60s and have been using manuals since I was 16 so......... 😁
@Sboo78
@Sboo78 2 жыл бұрын
@@clintonlunn4357 I have a 2SS as a daily driver and it it very smooth and comfortable.
@Shelf_Help_ca
@Shelf_Help_ca Жыл бұрын
This was the most helpful review. The categories you laid out are how all vehicle comparisons should be done. You painted such a great picture of life owning these cars, what each excels at and what their limitations will be. Bravo!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Very kind of you Eric!
@909scat
@909scat 2 жыл бұрын
I love the comparisons! This is exactly what the viewers should expect from you due to the fact that you've owned all 3. I'd love to meet up and help you provide data as to which car would win in the qtr mile..lol.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Bring it! Haha
@whitt3927
@whitt3927 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Austin! I recently sold my 16 Challenger SRT 392 and bought a manual SS 1LE. I agree with your assessment of these cars. I got really tired of constantly smoking the tires everytime I got on the Challenger. It gets old after a while. The Challenger felt like a 72 Caddy with a big motor, which is great if all you do is go straight and never turn. The Camaro, in my opinion, is a far superior driver's car. It feels like a true sports car and not just a fat pig with a big motor. Keep up the great content and Happy New Year!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Yep you nailed it! People sleep on the Camaro til they have owned one.
@Galaxybeyondgalaxies23
@Galaxybeyondgalaxies23 2 жыл бұрын
".. a fat pig with a big motor", lol
@User-cc6cq
@User-cc6cq 7 ай бұрын
Appreciate your perspective. Thanks!
@RichLopp
@RichLopp Жыл бұрын
My 6 gen SS handles AMAZINGLY!! Hugs turns at high speeds like nothing I’ve ever driven before!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
They handle so well!
@mosesolatubosun5445
@mosesolatubosun5445 Жыл бұрын
I like your evaluation. And I think you're fair. I have never owned all the three, but drove them for a week each before I settled on the Challenger T/A 392. The comfort, the raw power and the whole unapologetic oozes confidence that is unmistakable in the Challenger. Thanks
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
You have a sweet car!!!
@kceealexander
@kceealexander 8 ай бұрын
I love your honest review,i own a 2023 camaro 1LT v6 which is already a beast now i can imagine what a v8 would be like
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 8 ай бұрын
The v6 in the Camaro is no joke!
@User-cc6cq
@User-cc6cq 7 ай бұрын
So glad this found me...still relevant & helpful. By far, the best comparison I've seen so far. The Gen 6 Camaro wasn't even on my radar. It is now! Thanks!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 7 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@ashlysmith7525
@ashlysmith7525 Жыл бұрын
Got 27.7 on my widebody scat, the MDS really helps with that gas guzzler lol, they are all good cars, performance, looks, and heck the mpg isnt too bad for what they are all together.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on ALMOST everything. It's almost as it you took the words out of my mouth. I haven't experienced the quality problems on my GT that you did with your Mustang, and I hope I never do. I think you just got a bad batch because other people I know haven't had issues. The MT82 Transmission sucks, but I modded mine to offset its weaknesses to a degree. As far as these three car types, I love all three and have driven all three (GT, Scat, SS) myself. I didn't feel cramped like some people complain about with the Camaro, but the lack of visibility was an issue until you get used to it. The Challenger was too big and awkward in areas where parking spaces were narrow, but it's old school looks and bearing are hard to beat. Overall, the Mustang fits me just right. Your assessment of the Mustang GT being "crazy fast" on the top end is accurate. People bashing Mustangs don't realize that as a drag race progresses past 70 mph, the Mustang will overtake the Scat Pack and the SS. I know from personal experience on numerous occasions. The Challenger rules in the Low-end torque department. It has no equal. But at the high end, it's the Mustang's world. The Camaro has more Low end torque than the Mustang, but can't match the Challenger, and IMO is a better track car than a Mustang, but the Mustang is still better at the high end on a straight away. Of course, a lot depends on the drivers in question, as these are just in general observations and results. Your Quarter Mile Assessment is spot on, EXCEPT the Mustang CAN POSSIBLY catch the other two depending on the drivers. The Mustang is coming to life at right about that point. After the Quarter Mile, the Mustang EASILY dispatches the Scat Pack and will pull ahead of the Camaro as well. The Camaro will also beat the Scat Pack at that time. The added weight is also working against the Scat Pack. In every race that I saw and/or was in, that's pretty much how it went down. You can't go wrong with any of these rides and your assessment was the best I've seen in ages. Thanks for doing it.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your comment and assessment as well! I appreciate you taking the time to write it. I do think I got a bad batch in the quality department. Funny thing is, I don’t miss my scat but I do miss my Mustang from time to time.
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 UR Welcome, Bro. I wish you would have gotten a better Mustang. You might have kept it if you did.
@ceooflovingthehomies9294
@ceooflovingthehomies9294 2 жыл бұрын
Great assessment. I’d also add that with a 10 speed auto mustangs are the fastest in the quainter mile when compared to the 10 speed Maro and 8 speed Scat. The 10 speed really does wake wake the coyote up in an amazing way even tho it isn’t as engaging
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceooflovingthehomies9294 Well said!
@WhatsYourDadSnap
@WhatsYourDadSnap Жыл бұрын
Did the Camaro 2SS and just added on the suspension, breaks and exhaust. Much better then the 2SS 1LE imo because you get the performance and comfort of the 2SS. Seats especially are way better then the recaro ones from the 1LE.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Doing it over again I would have done it just like you.
@bigmixx
@bigmixx 2 жыл бұрын
We need a combination of all 3. Camaro handling, Challenger comfort/styling & Mustang tech & aftermarket support. Now for the engine….🤔
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
There ya go!!
@eduardoortiz8961
@eduardoortiz8961 9 ай бұрын
You have 3 of my dream cars, I'm a car enthusiast, and I'm slowly but surely building my dream garage. I just bought a Scat Pack, and next on my list are a Mustang and a Camaro
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 9 ай бұрын
Right on!
@ClutchKillers
@ClutchKillers 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Camaro 2SS 1LE and previously owned a Mustang and I concur with pretty much everything you said! Although the Challengers problem isn't necessarily too much power, it's not enough grip!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You are right on the grip. Well said!
@nokoolaid
@nokoolaid 2 жыл бұрын
Even with 275's, it's tough to hook up in drag mode.
@ClutchKillers
@ClutchKillers 2 жыл бұрын
@@nokoolaid need 305’s for that much power
@EscapeFPs
@EscapeFPs 2 жыл бұрын
Love my 2ss as a daily couldn’t be happier
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great car! Kind of wish I didn’t get the 1LE package as a daily
@EscapeFPs
@EscapeFPs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 yeah I had a choice between my rapid blue 2ss and a red 1LE but the 1LE I woulda had to wait another 2 months to take delivery and the rapid blue was sitting on a lot so I just snagged it but apparently I made the right choice as a daily driver
@xum0007
@xum0007 2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeFPs love your profile picture, all 3 of these are great budget options, especially in the used market.
@ashlysmith7525
@ashlysmith7525 Жыл бұрын
Not true. My widebody scat beats 10 speed 5.0s and 10 speed SS. Maybe because it's a widebody idk, but it does.
@jmspr1
@jmspr1 2 жыл бұрын
Best video I seen in a very long time; as soon as I find what is going to be the last year Camaro, I’m picking one up
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good move! Thanks for watching!
@salpanahi
@salpanahi 2 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video! I love my Challenger Scatpack widebody Manual..but I wish it had the Auto Rev Match and the No Lift Shift of Camaro and it would've been perfect :)
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have touched on these features because those things I loved that I wish the Dodge had.
@salpanahi
@salpanahi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 hey, more future video ideas :)
@nokoolaid
@nokoolaid 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Barton shifter?
@metooblueshoes
@metooblueshoes 2 жыл бұрын
You just can't go wrong with any of these. I think all of these cars, at their best, is like splitting hairs at some point if spec'd correctly.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@pauls.4860
@pauls.4860 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Austin! Each car has its strengths and weaknesses. But its all about America muscle with all 3 🇺🇲🇺🇲💪💪
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I agree!
@lreed31
@lreed31 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Austin, its funny that FCA beat out Ford because my Challenger had some issue when it came to quality. My body stripes were damaged, my Uconnect flickered, I had a rattle that I never found int he interior and there was a screw rolling around inside my decklid that drove me crazy when ever I opened the trunk...🤣 I haven't had any issues from my Camaro
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Dang. Sorry to hear that! I think every brand has some lemons.
@jdscoco
@jdscoco Жыл бұрын
Have had my 2023 Camaro LT1 now for a few months. Love it. Had a Mustang in the past, left ford for quality also. I love and dislike the Camaro for all the things you mentioned, and love that car overall for what it is. I have owned Prosche in the past. An American muscle car, nauturally aspirated V8 Camaro is by far the fun factor and the best car of this type on the market today IMO. An under the radar car for sure that can shred.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Can’t disagree!
@patcurrie9888
@patcurrie9888 8 ай бұрын
I have had all three too, 7.5 yrs in Mustang 2008, 2013 Camaro 1LT 3 yrs, 2018 Camaro RS 1 yr, 2017 Challenger SRT392 3 months. Good points, especially on Mustang quality, When I got my 2013 Camaro the quality seemed pretty much better. The 2018 Camaro, I hated the downsized, rough ride. I traded it in after 1 yr. The 2017 Challenger looks great, (My 2013 Camaro is a close 2nd in style.) I've gotten compliments from back seat passengers, room and comfy seats. All four have been automatics. Challenger is the winner in MHO.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@DoctorHemi
@DoctorHemi 11 ай бұрын
I considered all three before I bought my 2022 Challenger as I like them all, but I ultimately chose the Challenger because I like the looks a bit more and I feel like I'm sitting more upright than in the Mustang or Camaro.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 11 ай бұрын
Right on! Keep enjoying it!
@darrylsimpkins8456
@darrylsimpkins8456 2 жыл бұрын
Great review on all 3 ! So sweet to own all 3
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@thespeedyviking9682
@thespeedyviking9682 2 жыл бұрын
I came off of 3 years of Mustang ownership into a Challenger. The Mustang was cramped, the quality felt cheap and it was a bellybutton car. There’s 4 GT’s just in my neighborhood. It is quick and nimble but has no bottom end so it’s fun to begin with but once the honeymoon phase is over it just feels sluggish and cheap. The Challenger is on another level, instead of a cheap and quick sports car you have a luxury muscle car. Plus all of the torque and power down low it makes it soooo much more fun on the street.
@JoshuaWorth
@JoshuaWorth 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Challenger but luxury? The interior parts are trash.
@thespeedyviking9682
@thespeedyviking9682 2 жыл бұрын
Some things are obviously trim level dependant but going from a Mustang GT premium to a Challenger SRT 392 was a night and day difference. I'd definitely class it closer to a luxury interior.
@raymonds7492
@raymonds7492 2 жыл бұрын
Well let Chrysler tell it the 300 is a luxury car. I guess space is an element of luxury.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I think for me the Challenger just felt more solid. The mustang felt cheap and tiny.
@ceooflovingthehomies9294
@ceooflovingthehomies9294 2 жыл бұрын
Solid comparison! I’ve driven all three and I mostly agree with your assessment. However I looked at automatics in all these cars which does change a few things. With most of these cars switching to an automatic just makes you a little faster, but the Mustang is transformed by the automatic. It still doesn’t have the insane low torque of a scat but it def pulls harder sooner (real world 0-60 is close or even favors the mustang vs a scat) Makes it quite fun to hoon around town. It’s all subjective but I liked the coyote and 6.4 best engine wise (tho the LT was great), I liked the mustang interior best (I haven’t had the quality issues you had), the Camaro handling was best, and the challenger looked the best to me followed closely by the mustang. I went mustang because to me it’s only short comings were that it was slightly less sexy to me then the challenger and when carving a canyon it’s not quite as good as the Camaro. But it looks great to me and carves canyons well and has one of my favorite engines so it was had the best package of traits. You can’t go wrong with any of them though and I love them all.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Yep can’t go wrong!
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 2 жыл бұрын
I think your assessment is spot on! Please read my post here as well.
@GuysTalkingCars
@GuysTalkingCars 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Austin
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@johnnyshipula6934
@johnnyshipula6934 2 жыл бұрын
Got dam the cat or dog up stairs made me jump 10 feet I thought someone was trying to come in the front door 🤣 it’s 1:25 am. Don’t need my blood rushing!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Lol sorry about that haha
@gramb8528
@gramb8528 2 жыл бұрын
Rank 1-3: 1:Mustang 1.5:Challenger 10:Camaro
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Nice lol
@72breezy
@72breezy 2 жыл бұрын
I own 2/3. 2015 mustang 5.0 and a 2020 widebody scat. I love the 5.0 and I love the aftermarket support but I do prefer the scat more.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I like them all in their own unique ways!
@michaelmarkku3348
@michaelmarkku3348 2 жыл бұрын
Tank you so much,i Will by One of the cars in spring.fan and new sub from Norway. Reale fall in Love Whit am cars. Have a Nice Vette C3 stingray -69
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome and thanks for subscribing!
@WD-sr8qz
@WD-sr8qz 2 жыл бұрын
Well done man!!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@deadly134
@deadly134 2 жыл бұрын
The problem to me is that Camaro and mustang are throwing gobs of power at their v8s in a cheaper price to get that same power from the challenger I need the 392 which is almost 15k more than a gt or lt1 to me it would be mustang or Camaro. Also another thing to consider is if you like to mod the gt has the easiest replacement engine to source as f150s have the same motor with different intakes
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Good points for sure!
@6.2Slomaro
@6.2Slomaro Жыл бұрын
392 is just a bore out 5.7, When it comes to modding it won’t make as much power as the coyote and LT motors since the 392 motor already somewhat at its limit.
@jasondixon9095
@jasondixon9095 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason!
@johnryleebozeman5560
@johnryleebozeman5560 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Love the content
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@sawkoeko9712
@sawkoeko9712 2 жыл бұрын
good video all around but wouldve been better if u included which car is/was the most bang for ur bucks.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion! I just added it to a pinned comment.
@xdcoleus3097
@xdcoleus3097 Жыл бұрын
I had ZL1 . Thanks for video
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
You bet
@bluesguitarfan2631
@bluesguitarfan2631 10 ай бұрын
The mustang loves being at and above 70. I can vouch.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 10 ай бұрын
Yes it does!
@marcmcphee
@marcmcphee Жыл бұрын
Excellent video…I’m looking for a car with V8 power to replace my Civic soon and I have two kids (12 and 8)….so it basically boils down to just the Challenger because of the back seat.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense!
@marcmcphee
@marcmcphee Жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 I can’t wait to hear that V8 rumble!!!
@saviordream
@saviordream 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Austin! Watching it really helped solidify the fact that the Camaro was the right choice for me. It's not going to be a daily driver, and what I'm really looking for is a car to have fun with on the back roads and the twisties when the weather is nice (and hopefully start doing a few track days, which is always something I've wanted to do). I've never had an American car, nor a V8, and I thought I'd better get one while they're still available. And I've always been intrigued by the 6th Gen Camaro anyway, so hearing the honest opinion of someone's who's had all 3 of the domestic offerings was really helpful in making me feel I made the right choice for what my needs/wants were. Cant wait for it to get here!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I do the best I can to be fair and honest. I’m happy it could help you out!
@Sboo78
@Sboo78 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first V8 a few months ago. I got a 2SS and I daily drive it. I test drove the 1LE and it was very uncomfortable. This car is so underrated. It handles perfectly. It is so much fun to drive and grips the road when handling turns. You made the right decision.
@andreas333bb8
@andreas333bb8 11 ай бұрын
​@@Sboo78that's very interesting, don't hear too many comments regarding SS vs. 1LE. I was researching for months between the 3 cars discussed and finally decided on the 2SS and love it. I was always wondering if I should have bought a 1LE though, but since I never found one to test drive, decided against it, since I wasn't going to track the car anyway. Your assessment makes sense though, since it's built for the track, I just assumed the magna ride would be able to soften it up when needed. Love the SS suspension, firm and capable, yet not harsh. Thanks for your comment.
@6844376
@6844376 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparo, I was hoping which intereor was best since that's what you see and feel while driving.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I should have touched on that. My Challenger had cloth, my mustang had leather and my Camaro has recaros. They are all so different.
@garyfuller7851
@garyfuller7851 2 жыл бұрын
Good video and comparison.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary! I hope you’re well!
@sugerhitman1295
@sugerhitman1295 Жыл бұрын
Get the manual Camaro... install LT headers, cold air intake and a Throttle Controller...thank me later...but if youre really crazy about carving up back roads...get the 4 banger Camaro and mod it...that baby punches way above its weight...a full on sports car.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Right on! Thanks man!
@KT-yw1ip
@KT-yw1ip 2 жыл бұрын
How tall are you? I'm 6'5, trying to make sure I fit in any of these. Great video, thanks.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I would go the Challenger route if you’re that tall. Still may be tight.
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Imo fuel economy really matters, big time!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 10 ай бұрын
To some it doesn’t on these kinds of cars but wanted to at least cover it.
@joro7304
@joro7304 Жыл бұрын
The Challenger looks the best on the road in my opinion.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
It is good looking for sure
@SudeepC1973
@SudeepC1973 2 жыл бұрын
Might be able to trade out the Recaro for 2ss seats from another owner?
@lilpre504
@lilpre504 2 жыл бұрын
Good point
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Good point for sure!
@stevesmith6236
@stevesmith6236 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Nuff said.😉
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@safwanmalik3
@safwanmalik3 Ай бұрын
When it comes to winter driving - are there any of these you would recommend more than another? Asking from Ontario Canada.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 29 күн бұрын
They all will be pretty similar. Probably the Mustang idk
@safwanmalik3
@safwanmalik3 29 күн бұрын
@@Gonin60 I appreciate that - not sure you’ve driven them much in the winter but would you still get one in a place it’s winter 4 months of the year as a daily? For context- I have a rwd AMG E class coupe now and it hasn’t had any issues but no idea how it would compare to an American muscle.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 29 күн бұрын
@@safwanmalik3 I drove all them in winter. Tires make a difference but rwd and torque is going to make driving them hard. I did it but I grew up in Idaho. What you propose is a big change. I think both the Camaro and Mustang have snow mode. You should see my video of bringing my Bullitt Mustang home from Iowa haha
@safwanmalik3
@safwanmalik3 29 күн бұрын
@@Gonin60 I appreciate thr help, I’ll sub and check out the video now! It’s a big change from German (my 4th) to American but I think I’m ready for a change up in driving experience. Besides I’d like a manual for a more genuine driving experience. Cheers!
@AB-coyote
@AB-coyote Жыл бұрын
Mustang is in a different league than both of those of you want to make big power with boost. Hemi 6.4 and LT1 6.2 aren’t even in the same conversation.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Very true
@JasonSmith-cz1ri
@JasonSmith-cz1ri 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Austin, excellent comparison video of all three cars. I am really torn between the Camaro and the Challenger. So much so I can't decide. What I am looking at is a 2021 Challenger SP WB Shaker package fully loaded, or a 2022 2ss 1le. Basically, given both options here you are saying you would more than likely go with this spec'd out Challenger, correct? Another factor to look at is the MSRP. I get both the affiliate discount for dodge and the GM employee discount for the Camaro. Obviously, the GM discount is much greater. Pretty much covers the taxes and fees. That being said MSRP on the dodge is 67k and on the Camaro basically 56k. Huge difference in cost. Alot I can do with the Camaro with an extra 10k you know. I am a bit of a bigger guy 285 at 5'11. I drove both and love them both. In another video you made I agree with you on; I do like all of the little things the Camaro offers like the spectrum lighting, exhaust pops, camera mirror and lighted door sills. I can go ZL1 for the same price as the challenger. Dude, I just don't know.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason! Thanks for commenting. Man I’m torn for you. It’s always hard to pick one that’s better. I think you would need to determine if you can live with the lack of space in the Camaro. Is the car comfortable for you? At that price difference I don’t think a wb scat is worth almost 70k. If I had close to that I would get a ZL1 hands down. Feel free and message me on instagram if you want to talk more.
@guysmiley8473
@guysmiley8473 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason to buy a challenger is it's looks. It's a classic muscle car. If you're worried about space and want two doors then I guess... Why anyone is buying a coupe with a need for space is beyond me. The mustang shouldn't even have a back seat. The Camaro and Mustang are just sports cars with muscle car names.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@ronb9901
@ronb9901 Жыл бұрын
$20k budget, which would you buy used. Which year would be best, used?
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
I would probably go Challenger then Camaro. Mustangs people try to mod where the other two especially the Challenger, they are harder to modify to gain power. It all depends on previous ownership. Any car thrashed on before could be a problem.
@ronb9901
@ronb9901 Жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 thx 🙏. I do love the Challenger looks the most and not interested in canyon carving but I am worried about reliability. I want a V8 . Are there particular years of Challenger that are better/worse??
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
@@ronb9901 hi Ron. I only owned a Challenger new so I can’t talk about used ones. I’m sorry!
@avocado9763
@avocado9763 Жыл бұрын
Well done.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RyanL710
@RyanL710 2 жыл бұрын
Have been having a hard time finding helpful videos on it. Which of the 3 vehicles have shift skip and more specifically, do you find the shift skip in the Camaro annoying? I know there are fairly easy to install delete plugs, but just wanted to get some insight on the shift skip daily driving the car.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
So far the Camaro but I have heard of some having it in the challenger. I do find it annoying.
@thecartruthreport8451
@thecartruthreport8451 2 жыл бұрын
Did you check yet to see if your engine is from the BG plant? I checked mine and it is!!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t yet but need to
@shunpreek79
@shunpreek79 2 жыл бұрын
The a10 camaro would gap all 3 of those cars
@sparkalanio
@sparkalanio 2 жыл бұрын
Yep especially in the LT1 base pack vs a base 5.0 for drag racing I’ve seen the Camaro win but cars are close to the same challenger needs to drop some weight to even compete
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Sabrinajeromej
@Sabrinajeromej Жыл бұрын
Everyone don’t care about racing..it’s a preference thing
@kgd1423
@kgd1423 Жыл бұрын
Lambe bicho
@AB-coyote
@AB-coyote Жыл бұрын
Mustangs with the A10 have been high 11s stock. Don’t think Camaro has.
@BP-fx3qc
@BP-fx3qc 10 ай бұрын
Can you get the 1le pack with the 10spd auto? I feel like all the 1le i found b4 i bought my mustang were all manual.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 10 ай бұрын
Manual only
@ClutchKillers
@ClutchKillers 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get those custom canvases of your cars? Is the quality good?
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Quality is okay. Good enough for the price. Easy Canvas Prints
@dbmae1532
@dbmae1532 2 жыл бұрын
Stang gang wya
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be your huckleberry! ;) Thanks for watching!
@Smasher-Devourer
@Smasher-Devourer 2 жыл бұрын
Just pick the one you like and be done with it. They're going to be compared and contrasted for all eternity. Drive what makes you happy. I picked the Mustang because that's what I like. One day I might have a Challenger too, who knows.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I like all cars. The point of this wasn’t to pick one but rather a fair assessment. Not many have owned all three. I just gave my opinion across categories.
@havebluevette7485
@havebluevette7485 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this comparison! My question is: which car is the most fun just running errands around town? I don't mean in a practical sense, more like which car is more engaging in routine use. Since I don't have money to go to the track and I don't live near any Mailbu canyons, I wonder which would be the most fun in the real world.
@largenloud9744
@largenloud9744 2 жыл бұрын
Challenger hands down! That’s my experience the only down side is the car is bigger so parking in small spots is difficult. That and the B pillar blind spots. The car has a bunch of room inside and the torque in the 392 is enough to have fun without going to jail. That’s my opinion.
@thespeedyviking9682
@thespeedyviking9682 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say Challenger hands down as well. The torque down low makes it much more fun for around town stuff and playing around on the street. A Challenger will beat a Mustang in the 1/8th mile but lose in the 1/4 because the Mustang needs RPM to make power making it feel a little slow on the street. Otherwise the Challenger has more interior room and trunk space but the Mustang will get better fuel mileage and be a bit more nimble. I've never owned a Camaro but from test driving one I can say visibility is pretty bad and the interior is pretty cramped similarly to the Mustang.
@havebluevette7485
@havebluevette7485 2 жыл бұрын
@@largenloud9744 Thanks, good info. No wonder I see so many Challengers.
@havebluevette7485
@havebluevette7485 2 жыл бұрын
@@thespeedyviking9682 Thanks. I need to do a Challenger test drive!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
If I had a automatic Challenger I would say the Challenger. It’s clutch would wear my leg out. My vote on this would be the Camaro.
@SixOneFive
@SixOneFive Жыл бұрын
Making my decision harder just let go ‘22 GT planning by new one spring ‘24, new s650, or ‘23 s550, challenger scat pack , or Camaro
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Best of luck!!
@SixOneFive
@SixOneFive Жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 any input !? Lol
@mohammedalwindi2813
@mohammedalwindi2813 Жыл бұрын
Which one has better traction control?
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Probably the Camaro. A lot depends on tires etc. the mustang didn’t easily break loose the tires so traction was good there.
@Braapd
@Braapd 2 жыл бұрын
@Gonin60 Which one was best in snow? Help a guy from Wisconsin here pick his first muscle car to daily lol (My exes include M240i, 2018 STi, Golf R, Audi S4).
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
All are very similar. What matters more is the tires you’re running.
@Braapd
@Braapd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 Of course, I used to service advise at a car shop and I would routinely surprise people who’ve never ran winter tires go seasonal for the first time, game changer in snow👌🛞
@Braapd
@Braapd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 I should’ve prefaced I’d be running winter tires when the snow season arrived regardless of which muscle car I choose
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
@@Braapd I would probably say mustang. Has snow and ice mode. Less torque than the others and with the right tires it should be good.
@Braapd
@Braapd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 Thanks for the info! That’s pretty cool❄️ You have any experience with the Charger SRT? Because the Charger SRT has been on my list of possibilities too with it being a four door option that could work💡
@janrico904
@janrico904 Жыл бұрын
dodge cha , comfort 4 seaters. classic design fun more ways grocery market more
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Okay
@johnnyshipula6934
@johnnyshipula6934 2 жыл бұрын
Does the 2ss 1le has lane assistance when it keeps the camaro in the lane when you get to close to the line?
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t have that unless I have missed it.
@talkboutit_tv7096
@talkboutit_tv7096 Жыл бұрын
392 is still the Tru root of muscle
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
I would agree with that
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын
I really wish the Mopars were lighter... Seems like I'm still gonna be waiting for my dream car, tbh. I want something that I can just as easily dance with as I can get serious with and as I can relax and road trip with. Needs to be a 3-seater (the passenger behind the driver can be a useless spot, but there should be enough head and leg room for the two right-side passengers to be full-size men and get along), RWD but controllable. LIGHTWEIGHT IS KEY because heavy cars suck and wear out faster and take more power to motivate, and TBH, I DON'T want a V8, even if they can be made relatively light, low, and compact. Why? Because I don't like underutilization. I want a solid 400-600 whp WITH turbo noises, but I don't want to be barely boosting a huge V8 engine for no reason, nor do I want to be quite maxing out or pushing a 4-cylinder hard enough to get to those numbers... This is part of the reason why I want a lighter car; I'd be happier with 400-450whp in a 3200lb car (full fuel+200 pound driver) than I would in a 3800lb car, and if that were all the case, a 4-cylinder just might be enough... Even if it wouldn't really make the sounds I want.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Good luck in your search!
@txkingg
@txkingg Жыл бұрын
I loved my mustang GT
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
They are great cars!
@ashescat99
@ashescat99 8 ай бұрын
Mustang and Camero handle very similar. They aren’t really muscle cars, they are pony cars. They are a mix of straight line and performance, Cornering, and handling. Although I think mustang is gonna have better tech and more cargo space if that’s important to you but as far as straight up performance they are basically the same. The Challenger on the other hand is straight up muscle car. It shines in a straight line, but doesn’t handle cornering as well compared to mustang and Camero. But it is pretty outdated as far as the tech goes and interior, So if you want a more well rounded sports car that’s gonna handle real well get a mustang/Camero cause they are gonna handle about the same. If all you care about is going very fast in a straight line get a challenger. Nothing wrong with either cars, just a matter of preference. Luckily the market has calmed down and most dealers are not doing markups on the hellcats anymore cause they have too many of them now smh 😂 so if I were to get either of these probably a challenger since they won’t be making them anymore. Camero is gonna go away next year too. Mustang will be the last one. There’s rumors that the new gen that came out for 2024 will be the last. So we shall see. Awesome review btw.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@tonythecargamer5991
@tonythecargamer5991 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sharing my honest opinion I love mustang's but they just aren't up there with the Camaro and Challenger
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 2 жыл бұрын
I've beaten every Scat and SS I raced in my 2018 GT so I don't agree. They always pull on me off the line because they both have more low end torque, then I catch them both and pass them both.
@ETovar81
@ETovar81 Жыл бұрын
Hands down!
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@PeopleHealthTru
@PeopleHealthTru 7 ай бұрын
11:00 #1 Challenger has most comfort and space. #2 Mustang better gas mileage #3 Camaro seats not as good.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@marceloribas4616
@marceloribas4616 2 жыл бұрын
Camaro and Mustang are not muscle cars, they are sports cars, its a different concept, its not fair to compare them with the Challenger.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
I owned all three so I’m sharing my thoughts
@marceloribas4616
@marceloribas4616 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 cool
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 2 жыл бұрын
A Muscle Car is a type of Sports Car. So are Roadsters (Miata, Fiat 124) and Sport Sedans (Charger). Sports Car is a very broad classification with a few sub-categories in it. Some would argue that the Challenger is more of a Pony Car like the Mustang and Camaro. I'm not sure I agree with that.
@gramb8528
@gramb8528 2 жыл бұрын
@@thullraven1 true muscle cars are gone 😢 but these three are still great
@thullraven1
@thullraven1 2 жыл бұрын
@@gramb8528 Soon there will be only one: The Mustang. The Mustang wins the war in the end. New Challengers are gone after 2023. New Camaros are gone after 2024. Only new Mustangs will be around after 2024. It's going to be a sad time for American Pony/Muscle Car Lovers. I'll be OK. I'm keeping my 2018 Mustang GT until the wheels fall off.
@EscapeFPs
@EscapeFPs 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever owned a 392 charger ?
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, I was either getting a Charger or this Camaro. I haven’t owned one. I did like how it drove compared to the Challenger.
@EscapeFPs
@EscapeFPs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 oh so you’ve driven one but just haven’t owned one yet ?
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeFPs yeah just driven a Charger. I almost ordered one before I settled on the Camaro.
@EscapeFPs
@EscapeFPs 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 what was your main thing on why you chose the Camaro?
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeFPs manual transmission mainly. Interior lighting. Heads up display.
@redpilllife4life198
@redpilllife4life198 2 ай бұрын
I would have gotten the Mustang over the Camaro, but that MT82 is just awful.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 ай бұрын
Agree
@jrrogersstang4696
@jrrogersstang4696 2 жыл бұрын
Mustang best bang for your bucks 🚗💨💵🔥
@largenloud9744
@largenloud9744 2 жыл бұрын
That's a whole other argument lol but I don't disagree
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
For sure a discussion around this but it is well priced.
@jrrogersstang4696
@jrrogersstang4696 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 I actually own all three,all are great but nothing like raw mustang feeling, and when it comes to mods after market mustang wins ez
@thug2244
@thug2244 Жыл бұрын
@@jrrogersstang4696 I have the Mustang and Challenger - should be able to afford the Camaro in about 3 years from now - which car of the 3 is your favorite car to just jump in and go (without thinking about it, or it not even being a debate inside your head) - and I hope this guy is right about the Camaro - that gives me something to look forward to in the future - but I am still breaking the Challenger in right now
@jrrogersstang4696
@jrrogersstang4696 Жыл бұрын
@@thug2244 mustang gt...Camaro if you get heads and cam..
@Crysisplaya
@Crysisplaya Жыл бұрын
Mustang > Slowmaro any day
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
Have you owned both?
@Crysisplaya
@Crysisplaya Жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 drove both
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
@@Crysisplaya I owned both. Bullitt and 2ss. Both purchased new. Mustang had better top end but Camaro would beat it in the quarter
@GarveyMustangMan
@GarveyMustangMan 2 жыл бұрын
To me it's the Mustang
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
The mustang is great in its own ways. Thanks for watching!
@GarveyMustangMan
@GarveyMustangMan 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 thank you for the great video content! It's great to know before making any purchase, all three muscle cars are great and I just hope Dodge and Chevy don't kill off the mustang competition because competition brings out the best in everything.
@aidenarkham
@aidenarkham 2 жыл бұрын
That nose though lol
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@scottieodle7606
@scottieodle7606 2 жыл бұрын
He’s talking about cars and all you can focus on is his looks. I guess that says something about u doesn’t it.
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottieodle7606 Thanks man! It's all good. Some people enjoy tearing others down. My nose allows me to breathe really well haha!
@ragaso76
@ragaso76 Жыл бұрын
Jetta 98
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 Жыл бұрын
K
@ragaso76
@ragaso76 Жыл бұрын
@@Gonin60 challenger
@TaysonPlaysGuitar
@TaysonPlaysGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
MUSTANG GANG
@Gonin60
@Gonin60 2 жыл бұрын
Hey o!
Scatpack vs. Mustang GT .. which is the better car to own?
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