DODGE RAM CUMMINS VS LANDROVER DEFFENDER 90

WHAT THE ??? ? little landrover 300 tdi vs dodge ram 5.9 L cummins .TUG OF WAR - not the outcome you expect !!!!!

[@QUANTUMRohan]

I'm British, I think the Defender might just be the best car ever built... But I'm sorry that Dodge Ram does not look like it's in 4WD, I've been staring at that front wheel for the last 5 minutes and not once does it look engaged... This must be staged... If this had been a fair test, of course the Ram should win, and that would be nothing for the little Defender to be ashamed of :)

[@myoriginalmusic6739]

Yep defender rules

[@85305]

Dodge was definitely not locked into 4 wheel drive.. none of the front tires were spinning.

[@zhr4121]

Lr is far from being the best car, is totally junk... Japan rules

[@christiaanstaps8336]

@@zhr4121 that's what i'm talking about! Toyota Landcruiser will easily do 500000 miles. Defender needs a new engine after 80000 miles. Just garbage, English junk

[@user-ey4ki3tk8s]

​@@christiaanstaps8336 i mean......mines on 169,000 and only had to change one outrigger as it got some rust under it....... they're good cars if you know how to look after them.

[@TheGeekPub]

The Dodge is in 2 WHEEL DRIVE mode. Of course it can't win. Turn on 4x4 and the Land Rover would lose from the sheer weight factor.

[@modmorsy]

right

[@The68Fox]

But then again, rovers have Diff locks

[@gordonjcp]

+TheGeekPub If it's in two wheel drive, then in the second pull why is there smoke pouring from the front nearside tyre?

[@The68Fox]

+gordonjcp Brakes

[@deputydillhole]

+gordonjcp it's the smoke from the rear tire going around the front tire when moving backwards

[@davesunglasses9106]

The comments on here are insignificant.. Which car you like best or most matters not. In a tug of war between a British Land Rover & an American Dodge.. The British Land Rover wins Nothing further to discuss.

[@SinisterDNB]

Land rover defender vs one big shitty yank tank.... Quite an expected outcome...

[@SPECTACULARIRISHMEN]

Shitty yank vehicles, Ha, that's why the rover could only pull the dodge when it was in 2wd, and your ass had the nerve to say the rover was in "front wheel drive" how stupid can you get?

[@dillan2jz302]

If the ram was In 4wh it would demolish the range rover, think about the weight.

[@MrTaftser]

Dillan pridgen It wasn't a Range Rover... Also weight has nothing to do with it.

[@dillan2jz302]

MrTaftser My bad it's not a range rover, but weight does have allot to do with it. And tires

[@MrTaftser]

Dillan pridgen Not weight, its all about torque and the way this is transferred to the ground. The Landy was built for low torque manoeuvres, and with the ability to pull 3500kg as soon as the ram starts to spin the Landy will be gone.

[@Dan_B]

Love how people are complaining that the Dodge isn't 4WD and saying that Dodge isn't American made anymore as its owned by Fiat. If the Dodge won that you'd see people commenting the complete opposite.

[@FacuGonz3]

That Dodge RAM is from the age of Daimler so.. haha Not Fiat here. Anyway, modern RAM trucks aren't made by Fiat, so.. haha

[@Dan_B]

I think you need to reread what I said. Where do "I" say that dodge is fiat owned???

[@FacuGonz3]

Daniel Bree I'm talking about the people who says that.

[@dannybanks3969]

Daniel Bree yeah your right but ive always said yank 4x4's are SHIT and wont ever beat a Brit 4x4 at ANYTHING. this is just another leaving proof that the yanky car fan boys cant live with

[@panas1122]

***** DODGE belongs to Chrysler, Chrysler owned by Fiat. But dodge is still made by dodge, did not change anything with dodge ram.

[@sacronus1]

It would be fair if the dodge truck had four wheel drive.

[@TheMijman]

+Arnold Hall (Sacronus) Not LR fault that Dodge is poorly designed.

[@biginufm4264]

It isn't poorly designed, the idiots never locked it in 4wd, are you that dumb?

[@chewy77snipedyou]

+Arnold Hall (Sacronus) no it wouldn't. It would be fair if the defender was a Pick-up truck (LR Defender 130) like the dodge and both in 4x4. Then it would be fair. This is the LR Defender 90 It's the baby of the defender category of LR vs. Ram Cummins

[@thefinn-isher9116]

Do you think the dodge driver bitched about how his truck should of had 4wd, I’d hope not

[@thefinn-isher9116]

It can’t be fair, there very different vehicles meant for different purposes. It’s like comparing the top speeds of an F40 and a semi truck, it’s an unfair comparison.

[@jcaled24]

I clicked on this video b/c I figured the only reason someone would post such a video is if the unexpected, less powerful vehicle 'wins'. I automatically assumed someone did something really stupid like use a 2wd truck in a sad attempt to project the LR as the more powerful vehicle and gain a little insecurity back.... You did not disappoint.

The lesson is: Power is not the answer.

[@Lukedawg1984]

Iñigo Zapata No the lesson is put the ram in 4x4!!!

[@lukeboy1231]

except the landrover and the truck were both in 4x4

[@F6garage]

Some people like u piss me off the ram weights at least 2 times the defender and it has a bigger engine that was a fair test as the ram also had bigger wider tyres a locked rear diff and it was heavier so the defender won fair and square

[@commieslayer5045]

Fucking dumbass comment even with 4 wheel drive the dodge ain't doing shit against the diff locks not to mention you drop the clutch in a defender and she'll tow the factory it was built in down

[@allistairc123]

Well the dodge is famous for its million mile engine

[@powerstrokekeith5458]

So is ford have you heard about the 7.3l ?

[@powerstrokekeith5458]

o, is that why almost every diesel truck that is on the road is a ford. and ford is number one selling truck in 38 years. fords stock has also made more torque and hp then the dodges stock. the international 7.3l do some times have a hard time starting but you cant kill them.

[@MustObeyTheRules]

Who gives a fuck, every brand has had many engines go a million miles, just up to the owner and how they take care of it

[@petemclovins9166]

Fiat owns chrysler, chrysler owns dodge, fiat is one of the lowest quality automakers in the world and unfortunately it's rubbed off on dodge, I've used all three American truck brands extensively through work and the dodges are ridiculously unreliable, aside from that I just love the power of the 6.7 liter Cummings, insane towing abilities and decent fuel consumption. This video doesn't account for much, it doesn't look like the dodge is using four wheel?

[@MrJaman0083]

***** Dodge and Cummings are 2 very different companies.

[@ihelpdogs]

I only came here to read the comments from the dodge boys with their whiny excuses. Sure enough, wasn't disappointed...

[@F6garage]

dogboy exactly

[@thefinn-isher9116]

Same here, that and it looked interesting

[@beyondthelol]

Dont give a fuck about either brands so dont call me biased, but the dodge is rear wheel driven so once those back tyres break traction its all over red rover, doesnt matter if its 5.9 liter or 5900 liter - no power to the ground is no power to the ground

[@GreetingsGoodday-el6kx]

So why waist your time commenting... grow up and go do something productive

[@beyondthelol]

@@GreetingsGoodday-el6kx you just replied to an 8 year old comment idiot

[@EricthaRedd]

You've done a great job on that RAM, it looks great! I'm sure it would pull a house if it were ever put in four wheel drive, LoL.

[@davidcullen5134]

A lot of people don't understand physics. The Dodge has a light box, less weight on the tires, so they don't grasp the pavement. That is why they are spinning. That truck is designed and made that way for a simple reason, ability to have a heavy payload is what that truck was designed for. The Landrover, with 4 wheel drive, has the engine weight pushing down the front tires into the pavement, so because of that, the tires grasp the pavement. That gives the traction. If you put heavy weight in the box of the Ram to push the tires into the pavement as well, then the Dodge's tires will have traction also and no longer spin like that and the Dodge then wins hands down.

[@G53X0Y0Z0]

David Cullen You are correct. This was test of tire traction not vehicles.

[@extremeskierx528]

David Cullen Right you are and the Land Rover is weight balanced power on all wheels with posi traction all wheel drive. The Dodge is made for hauling tons of horse shit.

[@larry365]

I still have a feeling the defender would have no problem pulling this truck even if it had a tonne of weight on the back. But yeh. It's a grip text, not really a torque test which is what everyone thinks it is.

[@Aggie7158]

David Cullen Also, the land rover just puts the brakes on until the dodge tires start spinning and then starts to drag the dodge. Same way to win human tug of war, hold your position until the other team gets worn out then pull.

[@StreetDrivenDaily]

David Cullen i totally agree, some people cant understand weight distribution. they should put sand bags in the rear of that dodge.

[@JFinne9]

No tow mirrors flipped out. That's why the cummins lost. Ok, being in 2wd vs 4wd on the LR might have made a difference too...

[@nealmcclung4721]

Two wheel drive Dodge against 4 wheel drive landrover. No wonder the results. Horse power had little to do with it.

[@F6garage]

Neal Mc Clung what about the weight

[@gh3860]

Extremely Vulgar and distasteful rims on the Dodge Ram!

[@allistairc123]

That's your opinion , the dodge is black and chrome, the rims are black and polished , what would you have put on ?

[@johnboboson2727]

gh3860 No they look nice

[@mobilly12]

gh3860 Really? Vulgar? I don't think that word means what you think it means. Inconceivable !!!

[@TheMijman]

+gh3860 It's for cruising. It's not actually for working. Like most American made things.

[@headstashmusic3897]

+Sam Brown No way dude! Im not crazy about their vehicles but when it comes to componentry, American engineering and manufacturing is second to none, except maybe the Japanese.

[@JackDaniels-ok2qv]

The fact that the land rover was in 4wd makes this video worthless.

[@TechnicianJack]

Land Rover Defenders have permanent 4WD. It's not possible to put them in 2WD mode. I'm not sure about what drivetrain the Dodge Ram has.

[@darkcuda1]

TechnicianJack Its 4wd also

[@TechnicianJack]

darkcuda1 Thanks for letting me know.

[@sstroh08]

darkcuda1 except the first time here it was turned off obviously you can selectively turn the 4wd on and off on these

[@garethifan1034]

The fact that the Dodge is TWICE the weight AND power of the Landy and STILL LOST...makes this video well worthwhile.

[@RocketDogRc]

What a stupid challenge. The Dodge in 2 wd and it has no posi traction, the d90 is in 4wd....

[@devolutionrc8016]

1 wheel vs 4? I agree stupid

[@kassimbabika]

@Rocketdog So, you agree then? A better engineered car with sophisticated 4x4 setup, differentials, better power delivery, better traction (even though FAR smaller/lighter) is just...better? Many American trucks prioritise style over substance and have the technological advances of a cassette player compared to an MP3 player

[@RocketDogRc]

Oh yeah, a better engineered vehicle will always out perform anything else that tries to compete.

[@RocketDogRc]

Now I will also add, if that dodge was in 4wd not 2nd it could pull the d90 anywhere. Only because of diesel power, size and weight.

[@joeguinness8951]

Plus american trucks arent made for offroad

[@southernwulf6983]

Whoa Whoa Whoa!!!! that dodge ram was not in 4x4 like the rover i call a lie on that shit.

[@tmk70]

You mean like empires? Oh right, you lost yours!

[@lecoeur1231]

whatever dude, why you gotta bring prejudice into this and insult a whole people group and country.. smh

[@johnwharton2617]

Hay Brenton, I was about to say something, but you called it!!! And if it was, by by Defender!!! And I have a 1957 but you cani change the laws of physics!!!

[@southernwulf6983]

John Wharton Yea u cant change the law of physics but u can change the way truck drives. their is more weight in the front then the back.

[@johnwharton2617]

I think you missunderstud, I am with the Ram on this one! In four wheel drive the Ram being rather heavier should walk it! and with enough sand in the back probably in two wheel drive also, I am with you man!!!

[@duro845]

2x2 vs 4x4 who wins? really this is so absurd

[@john5743]

+Martin Gård you mean 4x2

[@terriergal]

maybe you should put the Dodge in 4wd.

[@pauljager2969]

Put it in 4L no contest

[@fx4.alvxr_]

The guy has not put the 4wd because is a dumbass guy

[@harrydestcroix5516]

terriergal landys back wheels didn’t spin

[@quicktrails8129]

@@fx4.alvxr_ that ram is a 2wd

[@captainobvious5993]

If the ram had 4wd it would have pulled that rovers body off the frame

[@DHFL]

A cummins in 4 wheel drive will NOT let those front tires spin backwards. Watch the video guys, hes in 2 wheel drive.

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

Nick actually it will because,the front is not a limited slip and doesn't have a diff locker, with the exception of the power wagon. regardless this is stupid because,if the dodge were in 4wd it would easily win with all that traction and torque, I'm a land rover guy, and they don't build anything that can even come remotely close to a stock ram diesel when it comes to torque. that rover has street tires, so has more contact patch on pavement than that ram also. meaningless comparison. towing or pulling, the weakest ram half ton would easily walk all over any land rover defender, the most powerful one has a 4.0 v8 which began life in the 60's as a Buick engine that Rover purchased from Buick in 63. its only making just over 180hp. off-road the defender would destroy the Ram though.

[@DHFL]

rochab77 I currently drive a 2004 Cummins 4x4 diesel period and bone stock from the factory I have limited slip front and rear. and regardless of if it has limited slip or not in the front, it will not allow the wheels to spin backwards in 4-wheel drive. the power to the front wheels will force them to be spinning forward if it is in 4x4. I have done plenty of truck pulls and my front tires never spin backwards unless I am in 2 wheel drive. unless I am in two wheel drive. But yes the torque stock that my truck made would have been more than enough to overpower the rover

[@dodge25007]

funny how the land rover is in 4x4 and the dodge 2 high

[@lorddeathomega]

Thought the same thing

[@peterstaalblauw8965]

I whouls like to see the hp disadventage of the defender, it whoul make up for 2wheel drive

[@DistinctOgre]

In don't think it's funny.

[@DistinctOgre]

@@peterstaalblauw8965 Idiot.

[@grizzleypeak]

I'm callin' b.s. on this one...... The Ram is obviously not in 4wd.

[@jamievolak5913]

lol, so is the defender

[@owenwright4484]

Jambo Jimbo the defender is in 4 wheel drive

[@jamievolak5913]

haha no its not, use your eyes!

[@MK-qh7xg]

Owen Wright Truck is open diff. Rover has lockers. This means the truck puts power to one wheel and lets it spin while all 4 wheels of the rover have to spin at the same rate with same torque and power.

[@rexforddundon4993]

***** truck is also in 2wd.. only powering the rear wheels..

[@robmuzz]

I love the way after losing 2 he yells "Best out of 3" :-D

[@seanparmeshwar7626]

& That's why we're proud to be BRITISH!!! :) :D

[@cooldbz12mach1padilla]

Sean Parmeshwar The dodge wasn't even in 4 wheel drive.

[@harryreid1597]

Sean Parmeshwar It obviously wasn't a video on dental hygiene then.

[@adzz_s]

Hell yeah!

[@nationalcitysycho]

Why cuz of ur dumb brains...or no brains?.... PROUDto be an American...SQUASH UR COUNTRY INTO PIECES?

[@jbbairoletto1509]

+Nationalcitysycho d Ignorant.

[@MadMatt-bs3xv]

I have to admit I'm pretty damn impressed with that Landrover, honestly when this started I really thought the Ram had him for sure.

[@NORKETT7]

a land drover is a awd and can go in 4wd. Basicly the Americans cant take watching this video

[@ryangowen2728]

i dont think you noticed the truck was in 2wd... once again the brits suck

[@IgorLollatoTrevs]

Ryan Gowen Brits, Germany, Japan......These guys know how to make a engine.......poor americans full of wrong proud can't take it.

[@erikkovacs3097]

This is exactly the outcome I would expect IF the Ram was in 2 wheel drive with an empty bed. Which it was.

[@bobbiarcher8480]

My dad bought this (EXACT ONE) Land Rover after he seen this video, I have been in it many times and it's very impressive, can't believe I have been in a sort of internet famous 4x4!

[@pookitherat]

I drive a Defender at work. I love to hate it, but I cannot fault it! It "always" does what you ask of it! I tow welfare units (worksite cabins with kitchens & toilets with generators, etc) which weigh a lot, but the Defender hauls them up hill and down dale. One time, I had to fetch a 2.5 tonne cabin 100 miles from work. It was 10 miles down a single track with uber steep hills. I had to drop into 4 low, but she pulled that shit up a hill so steep I was pushed back in my seat and even my son commented: "Look daddy, most dangerous road!" I hate the fact there is no room in the cab, but I love the fact it has so much power and torque. Keep your American sheds with their acres of plastic and mirrors warning about shit behind! We all KNOW vehicles look small in a mirror FFS!

[@Senkino5o]

A Ram 1500 can tow twice what a Defender can, also, Defenders have a little 2l motor with f-all torque or horsepower whereas that is a 5.9l Cummins, you are speaking out of ignorance.

[@joeschleprock3409]

why wasn't the Dodge using 4 wheel drive ?

[@MrJcjet]

Joe Schleprock Because if it did you wouldn't watch it. It wouldn't even be a remotely close comparison and the dodge would drag the little defender out of the screen in the first couple seconds. It's a rigged test to make a video people will watch. The biggest surprise to me was that the D90 stayed running for a full 30 seconds. That's a feat in its own right.

[@joeschleprock3409]

Actually I would definitely watch the video then to see the Dodge rip that silly little blue thing into pieces.

[@timmiser]

MrJcjet Reminds me of the old joke at the local British Auto Wrecking junkyard... "You know why the British like warm beer? Because Lucas makes their refrigerators!"

[@a6t8vw1]

+MrJcjet haha.. right on..

[@TheMijman]

+Tim Miser Actually British don't like warm beer. It's not served warm anywhere. It's served cellar temperature... which is a few degrees above fridge temp, but nowhere near room temp. If it's super cold then you cant taste it, in comparison to American beer it's warm. But in reality it isn't. This is also the reason American beer is served super cold. So you don't have to taste it.

[@horvoje_]

sometimes the brain is the better tool than muscle.....

[@alexanderpowers195]

I laugh at all the uk commenters supporting the land rover, oh shut up, you've never once made a good reliable car, when're Chrysler/dodge has not only made good cars but collector items

[@GreetingsGoodday-el6kx]

Im American and grew up on American muscle cars but ive owned a Range Rover for the past 9 years and will not ever change again ❤❤. The English absolutely know how to create an all around vehicle with off-road capabilities and true luxary at the same time

[@Papa7Bravo]

Holy shit, 1WD vs 4WD? That is quite the disadvantage, if it weren't open diff I'd expect a different result...

[@StuffWithAlexGaming]

4WD vs 2WD, plus power = tires spinning, plus that RAM has mud tires on it and that land rover has street tires. You can see by the fact that the RAM smokes the tires and the shit rover doesn't that it's not engine power it's just the fact that the RAM isn't set up for the road. Put them both offroad and tie the chain, RAM will crawl forward but the rover won't do shit.

[@StuffWithAlexGaming]

Automatic trans in the Shit Rover + Manual trans in the RAM. No fucking duh, have fun replacing your clutch plates now that you grinded them down Shit Rover driver...

[@sammasson3116]

StuffWithAlexGaming An automatic gearbox wasn't even an option for a 1997 Defender. I'd like to see how a LWB American pickup could better a SWB Defender offroad.

[@snipermonkey321]

Sam Masson idk what the fuck SWB or LWB means but im just gonna say a jeep would destroy a defender offroad

[@aflatminor]

snipermonkey321 SWB= Short Wheelbase LWB= Long Wheelbase ;))

[@nationalcitysycho]

Yes .

[@KnightShadey]

What happened up to 19 seconds, didn't get the outcome you wanted so reset? I still don't understand the point of the video, other than perhaps Australians can't locate the 4WD button on their trucks. Is illiteracy that common in Oz? I thought you guys had a better education system than the Yanks.

[@JFinne9]

I've met some rather dumb bastards here, but I have yet to find one who owns a truck and yet does not know what 4WD, 4X4, or 4H and 4L stands for. But yes, some of our (USA) schools absolutely suck. Kid failed? Blame the teacher, can't be the kid's fault for not putting in any effort....

[@2TUFSS]

Australians? LOLOLOLOL Don't know if you know dude, but those are clearly UK number plates.

[@KnightShadey]

2TUFSS I was just guessing/going off the uploader's (Allistair's) avitar/logo of the Ozzy flag, the plates aren't as much of a giveaway of origin as that flag... but it was obvious it wasn't North American, and definitely not an Alberta plate. =;-)

[@moviewatcher1024]

The Dodge is actually a Ram, owned by Fiat Auto, not an American company any longer - that is a fact. That said, the Ram needed to engage its traction control. Once it started spinning its wheels the Range Rover takes over. The Range Rover is not a British owned company. It is solely owned by Tata Motors of India! How shameful!

[@b9y]

So fucking what? The Range Rover is still a British thing.

[@BeatsCraftn]

and America owes money to China, and takes orders from Israel. So America is Israel?

[@FEGTTTSDH]

Tata just put the money. Land rover make the cars in UK

[@MrGolferjoseph]

dodge is not an American owned company, it is owned by FIAT

[@Yazawo]

Physics major here. Allow me to educate everyone. Ever wonder why tug of war isn't an Olympic sport? The reason is that the summer has nothing to do with strength. The side with better traction always wins. So better tires/4wd wins no matter what. There are videos of subarus beating trucks. Does this mean they have more torque or towing capability. No.

[@waynejohnson1304]

It is OBVIOUS that the Dodge was not in 4 wheel drive and the Land Rover was. This is an unfair pull.

[@MrGolferjoseph]

there was no range rover in this video, plus the dodge is crap anyway, Silverado FTW

[@leeduncan7944]

It's a Land Rover. Duhhh!

[@cidpusa700]

4 wheel drive vs two wheel drive,if a heavy load is placed on the dodge bed it will easily pull the defender

[@print4apet]

***** Nah your wrong, you can see the back wheel actually spin on the LR, look again at around 1:45

[@scottb3838]

print4apet The video is over around 1:45... starts rolling credits @ 1:37... but you will see it @ 1:15

[@print4apet]

Scott B sorry meant 1:15 typed in 1:45 from old age....

[@ricko0381]

Imran Khan Just face it...it's a Dodge!

[@wolfbanger2124]

+Imran Khan i think i have to agree here that the 4 wheel drive is what made the difference

[@4xoverland]

Dodge driver didn't have a clue how to drive. Or. It doesn't have low range. Which was it, because mathematically, the Dodge should have won every time? The one that moves first will always have a distinct advantage.

[@Bodgemiester]

Totally agree, I'm a previous Land Rover man (won the BORC) but now a jeep convert. That dodge shouldn't have noticed the defender. I would appreciate a subscribe from you!

[@joeyiguot2857]

The dodge wasnt in 4 wheel drive was the thing

[@schwanzelstock1071]

You don't know shit haha.

[@helennicholas8804]

To be real it should have been a defender 110 not a 90

[@jessestanley23]

the defender was stationary and the dodge was already spinning it's tyres the dodge had no traction when the defender took off. @4xoverland driver would definitely play a big part in this 👍

[@RAM-BAWN]

The RAM is NOT in 4 wheel drive while the landrover is. Not really a fair comparison.

[@rexforddundon4993]

if you notice, around 1:15 sec, this is an open differential pickup (doesn't have the optional limited slip, and then neither of the front tires are spinning (see that at :26 sec into video), showing that it's not in 4x4, just 2wd.. (or something is broke in the driveline) IF the Dodge was in 4x4, it WOULD NOT loose to the lighter Land Rover

[@iRoach94]

when has a cummins ever won a truck pull lol

[@snipermonkey321]

umm it won the first one... and it was in 2WD going up hill LMAO

[@iRoach94]

chrysler fucking sucks, lets get real kid.

[@snipermonkey321]

yet another person with no respect to american vehicles. what did they ever do to you?

[@iRoach94]

nothing, Chrysler isn't even American anymore they have a lot of European influence notice how much better their cars are now

[@snipermonkey321]

***** thank you. finally someone who doesnt think the dodge sucks just because its american.

[@ManWithBeard1990]

Ram must have been in rear wheel drive. Even without diff locks a 4WD one can't really lose because it weighs 2.5 times as much. The defender is still the better offroader though.

[@mjc2gaming607]

It can when theyre that tall they just bounce, whereas the defender is lower and sticks

[@Rich73515]

Try putting the Dodge in 4L (the same as the LR) and see what happens. All four wheels are spinning on the Land Rover, but only the rear on the Ram.

[@roflcopterkklol]

That dodge has no 4wd diff.

[@Rich73515]

If it is not a 2wd, it has a two speed transfer case and the ability to put power to the front axle. It may have an open diff in the front, but even power to one wheel that has some weight on it would definitely help.

[@roflcopterkklol]

Does it really matter lol? Me and you both know there are only 3 reasons to get one of those cars and they are You own a big boat. You own horses. You are a douche. They are never going off road so why argue about their 4wd capabilities in the first place?

[@Rich73515]

roflcopterkklol I have to admit that I don't understand the point of hooking vehicles back to back and trying to pull each other. Then again, I'm apparently a douche since I own a Ram 2500, but not a big boat or horses. Mine does go off road (and onto logging roads), usually dragging a tractor or skid steer. Most of it's off road time is snowy and/or rock roads in northern Ontario and there are a lot of times when a front locker would save me having to use a winch. It will get one eventually, but I need manual hubs first.

[@robbieroden6015]

can i just correct you on the 4litre land rover because its a 2.5l

[@loadingname98]

It's all about torque. On the last round. The lady was on the brakes and the tank couldn't pull it because it's diffs, we're not locked or in 2 wheel drive. Plus it's not just about weight and torque. It's also about how hight the vehicle is too. The center of gravity is off and can be altered so if you tug on the bumper ( just as an example) the rocks gravity will change from the center to the back, some cases lifting the front wheels off the ground and or getting pulled. Btw. That's one Sexy truck man!

[@getsomemtb7427]

I've owned a lot of 4x4's. Land Rover Discovery II was one of the strongest. Then came the Jeep CJ7. But the most fun was a jacked Nissan SE V6 extra cab I had. Did this same bumper pull with a Ford F-150. He lost each time. But we did learn that while the Nissan had more pull power, the cheap metal proved it was built crappy. On the 3rd or 4th pull he ripped my hitch and bumper clear off the truck. Funny shit, but I was definitely bummed. Killer video.

[@mikecorrea6467]

the land is on 4x4 but the dodge is on 2 wheels, off course this results

[@Altema22]

Hmm, 4 wheel drive Defender pulling a truck with an empty bed in 2 wheel drive mode...

[@LU8HRW]

and without lockers!

[@captjim007]

Just put a pallet of cement bricks in the Dodge and still leave it in 2 wheel and see what happens.

[@tomrose7959]

Jim Adams same with the landrover they are so light at the back emty that with more weight in they are more comftable to drive

[@DWillis7]

***** a Land Rover is 2.2 tonnes. No where near 4.

[@zacharyaltman3148]

what kind of awful car needs cement to win a tug of war

[@brainfart101]

Pretty cool. There's also a video of a inline 6 cylinder Jeep Cherokee dragging a full size V8 pickup around like it owns it. Where the power is made in the power band has a lot to do with tug of wars like this, not to mention pickup trucks are ass light. Diesels and inline sixes tend to make their power down low in the RPM range, once momentum is started in their favor it's an uphill battle to beat them. It doesn't matter what the brand or model is.

[@ГеоргийС]

why does ram use rear weels only?

[@Ballenxj]

COOL! I can see why this happened though. The Landrover apparently has all four wheels locked up, in other words, the power is getting to all four without slippage or spinning. The Dodge on the other hand has an open differential, ie, only getting power to one wheel, making it effectively "one wheel drive." Now if the Dodge had four wheel drive, with all four wheels locked up, I think you would see an entirely different result.

[@КонстантинЛихачев-в9ш]

Если бы…если бы…Если бы у бабушки был хер,она была бы дедушкой😊

[@AdamC3046]

I bet someone won a huge bet...

[@MrHammer1975]

watch the 1st pull the dodge smoked the rubbish then took it out of 4x4 so the rubbish didnt look bad

[@michalhavlicek6521]

Yep, you right. On second try, Dodge switch off AWD.

[@1982james111]

Hate to admit but your right here. The weight advantage on the Dodge would of made all the difference in pulling the little Landy in 4wd.

[@MrHammer1975]

is the rover awd or 4x4 ?

[@1982james111]

Russ Lashley It has a permanent four-wheel-drive system derived from the Range Rover, featuring a two-speed transfer gearbox with a lockable centre differential. Ps have a little respect for the iconic Land Rover (not rubbish) its simple and does what it says on the tin, no frills. If you want luxury go for the Range Rover Sport or Vogue from the Land Rover range. I have respect for all vehicle's including the Dodge.

[@Chrisnuzzo76]

That style Land Rover is the one they use all over Africa for safaris and it is a beast but I am still surprised that Cummins diesel couldn't stand up to it. That just shows the brilliance in the drivetrain of the LR. I once had an 03 Discovery and I had unhindered confidence in it's ability to travel on any of the steep terrain throughout West Virginia and Ohio. For the people that are making fun of Dodge for Fiat owning them, well take a look at the new company in India that now owns Land Rover. I'd put more confidence in Fiat than some unknown and unproven company. Fiat also owns Maserati and Ferrari. Are they junk?

[@chinonumberz]

what if the dodge ram is 4 wheel drive? i show this video to some peoples, they said "the dodge is not using 4 wheel drive, and is only outputing power in one of it's wheel. I just want to ask will the dodge be able to pull the defender if is on 4 wheel drive? and it does not seems like the dodge is only outputting power to only one of it's wheel, seems like both back wheels are trying very hard to win the tug of war.

[@TheJuan1966]

*DEFFENDER 4 X 4 Vs DODGE RAM 4 X 2 . . ...... better title... would be no merit to deffender ...*

[@yco67]

not surprising..

[@jscottsimms9]

4wd vs 2wd... Seems fair.

[@deadhead911]

Hm is this hill on a incline?

[@ah0792]

It looks like the dodge was in 2 wheel drive? Why not 4 wheel drive?

[@bigrobbiesadventures]

its 4 wheel drive LR vs 2 wheel drive dodge whoopee

[@silviu.x2661]

ram is heavier and that helps a lot in tug of war

[@vincents6261]

4x4 vs 4x2 ppfffff

[@BondBought]

K guys lets make up a reason your truck lost annnnnddd GO!

[@Biastai]

Ha ha

[@rcediction]

Because its a 4wd diesel vs a 2wd diesel both with insane torque and weight its obvious dude.

[@rcediction]

lucas young look at the front tires on the truck they roll backwards.

[@BondBought]

K so your pointing out that this pickup was a dumbass and didn't engage is 4x4 and that's why he lost cause I know damn well he has 4x4 bigger engine and weights more.

[@rcediction]

Now all diesels come with 4x4 so thats an ignorant comment. Also just because its a truck doesnt mean it weights more considering theyre making trucks lighter these days and a bigger engine means nothing if you can put all the power to the ground.

[@db2855]

These contests are always about grip, not power. This video just proves it.

[@marcstevens6019]

No weight on the drive wheels of the Dodge, and the pulling was taking even more weight off the drive wheels. But hey, I'm not a Mopar fan so I'm not complaining. You need more than the weight of those stupid stacks back there.

[@jamievolak5913]

This says a lot about American engineering lol

[@gabrielmessam2374]

If you look reeeeeeeeeealy closely, you can see the Landie rusting before your eyes. The brits have no idea how to make a reliable car that doesnt rust.

[@andrewclover6294]

Gabriel Messam American cars don’t rust because they r plastic

[@bobbarker7733]

Yeah, real fair! A 4 wheel drive vehicle versus a 2 wheel drive. How stupid is this?

[@eddasapr]

4wd vs 2wd

[@augustfarum]

Is the Ram only rear wheel drived? And if yes: dosn't it have 4x4?

[@stateservant]

Let's do this tug of war 50 years from now and see the Defender would still be operational

[@GoingOffGrid101]

lmao at all those poeple that think that the dodge is in 4x4 and trying, LOLOLOLOLOL

[@03056932]

dodge is trying its hardest, cannot win because it is inferior.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

03056932R LOL your comments are inferior and make this video so funny

[@atlas-vista]

LAND ROVER are awesome !

[@Yuu_Tuub]

One of the best off-road vehicle VS for north american idiot, daily used, aimless, xxxxl size thing. Can anybody tell me what the purpose of rams or chevy trucks? Work? With gasoline engine? I dont think so. Make no sense paying $3000 gas monthly Speed? I dont think so. After 100 km/h they are nothing, because of its height they cant handle any fast curve (they can reach to 100 kmh as fast as vw golf) Comfy? maybe, it can handle at least 4 xxxxl asses Looks nice or charismatic? :) just a joke Then what??????????

[@Rich73515]

At $3.50 a gallon and 15 MPG, $3000 a month for gas means that you are driving approximately 13,000 miles per month. I have the 6.7L diesel in my Ram 2500 and spend about $500 a month for fuel (14 MPG city/ 20 MPG highway).

[@Yuu_Tuub]

Rich73515 First of all here in Canada gas is more expensive than in the US; $1.40 - 1.45 per LITRE (around $5.3 gallon). Second 15 MPG is so optimist value for this kind of engines, lets keep it at 10-11 (when loaded even lower). I have to admit I exaggerated little bit, but my friends who have these vehicles give me approx similar numbers. According to them, they spend over 2 grands and they drive like 6000 KM

[@snipermonkey321]

ok, here is a guy with no respect towards american vehicles, what did they ever do to you? well besides be better. the dodge was in 2wd and going up hill so the rover had alot of advantages. and a dodge ram or a chevy are great work trucks, very reliable and capable of towing, offroading etc. so please have the decency to realise american vehicles arent bad so we can just get along

[@Rich73515]

The big issue that many people outside of N. America have is that they judge vehicles based on their view of how these vehicles are used. My Ram won't out corner a porsche or out run a lambo unless you add 3,000 lbs of stone payload to both vehicles or attach an 8,000 lb trailer. I wouldn't expect an Aston Martin to be judged based on the amount it can tow, so why do we insist on judging a heavy haul vehicle like the Ram on ride quality, cornering ability or 0-60 unloaded? The fact is that you can attach an 8,000 lb trailer to the Ram an drag it up a mountain and still be comfortable enough to cover 600 to 800 miles a day (towing the same or higher weight trailer) without fear of having the engine or drivetrain give out on you (front axle unit bearings are another story). Compare vehicles within their class, which means that you really can't compare the HD pickups from GM, Ford or Dodge to anything from any other manufacturer.

[@GingerThembo]

10 mpg unloaded? bullshit. We've got an f350 duallie crew cab long bed, biggest one ton you can get, it get 17mpg towing a car. It's a 1999.

[@tonesbones502]

Doesn't look like a very good traction control system in the Dodge, or is it in 2WD?

[@scales7989]

How many times did they schedule this and have to cancel because the Defender was in the shop?

[@rapha_santos]

_Land Rover 3 x 0 Dodge_

[@monelfunkawitz3966]

I am so sick of these bullshit videos trying to stomp big trucks. Range Rover is running a locked front end, open differential rear, and pulling in 4X4. The Cummins has an open differential rear and is pulling in two wheel drive. Lock that Cummins in four wheel drive, posi front and rear, and you can drag that Range Rover sideways.

[@DWillis7]

It's a Defender, not a Range Rover.

[@peeprox1991]

Monel Funkawitz It's a defender, and a stock looking one at that. No locking front or rear diff, only locking centre diff. Possibly traction control depending on model year. Either way, it's a very basic drive train at work - just very well designed suspension. The Land Rover sits on coil springs with proper radius arms at both ends rather than the leaf springs on the rear axle of the truck which allow wheel hop.

[@monelfunkawitz3966]

Just because a 300lb guy can pull a truck does not mean a 300lb guy can pull any truck. You can skew results in any direction. You can pull a Ford Superduty with a Chevette if you set things up right.

[@nationalcitysycho]

I SEE WAT UR SAYING...but when dumbasses hook up a truck to a suv with lockers and set the ram into 2WD AND THEN FLOOR THE PEDAL...GUESS WHAT...U LOSE GRIP.....if ram had better tires it can take that box on 2wd. BUT THESE DUDES R MORANS...NOT AMERICANS THEIR BRITS I THINK.

[@OliCM3]

+Squeek Tate You're comment sums up the stereotypical American truck driver. The fact Britain has a smaller automotive market than America has nothing to do with this video. Your just but hurt because the big American truck that probably weighs twice as much and has an engine well over twice the size got out pulled by nothing more than British engineering.

[@petersorbo4317]

The dodge is smoking one tire , WTF is this a joke . Land Rover fans are a little bit sad

[@gamingdad2549]

People saying the ram would win in 4WD, you missing 1 important thing, the landy isent even useing diff lock, and once that happens, 2 rams wouldnt pull it.

[@NikolajHansen]

It is all about traction. Try the same with a 4x4 Dodge / Dually and toss in some bags of sand in the tub. Anyone that comes from the farmland knows its not about the size of the tractor, its about the power you can transfer. Am a Defender owner.

[@techdavey3486]

The Land Rover has a superb proper full time four wheel drive (most 4x4 vehicles only have part-time 4WD that cannot be used on tarmac because of the lack of a centre differential) A friends Shogun for example, ripped the tread off one of the tyres after using 4WD for just a few yards on tarmac. Later a slapping noise was noticed when the car was driven in 2WD. It was the tread coming away from the tyre casing and the tyres were expensive Bridgestones. The main drawback of the Land Rover is its high purchase cost and even Defenders that are over 15 years old will auction for a high price because of what the vehicle is capable of. The good points are that Land Rover parts are also made in South Africa hence a 300 TDi cylinder head can be bought for a quite reasonable non-Japanese price.

[@judemark]

Land rover the humble work horse. Just gotta love it.

[@scottbrixey6284]

As someone who is a dodge guy, and someone who owns a Land Rover discovery, this was awesome lol

[@UDoIt2]

Its the tires. It's gotta be the tires. The Landrover is using that sticky stuff banned in the NFL and the Patriots underinflated the tires. We need a formal investigation into the Landrover's tire pressure and "sticky" substance..

[@JacquesMWest]

I'm confused as to why the 4x4 on neither trucks are engaged...

[@JonDingle]

Had many Land Rover's and I still love them. Except the new Defender, that is just horrible!

[@Todd82TA]

This video is kind of ridiculous.... the Dodge isn't even 4x4 (look at the front wheels rolling independently) and the rear differential isn't even limited slip. You've got LITERALLY 4x4 against a single wheel open differential. Totally absurd comparison...

[@Ken10017]

The Defender has a Full looking Center Differential in the Transfer case from the factory. The Dodge weigh and powers more than twice as much of the Rover. You will see the Dodge spinning 2 wheels in the back without full locking transfer case compared to the Rover.

[@bergbauer5820]

Where it is ? UK or Australia ?

[@rmyers1968]

Aside from power of the vehicles, other factors need to be considered, like the quality of the tires on each and how much weight is resting on the driving wheels, as well as the position of the tow line... In this case the tow line is lower on the pickup, so the rear of the pickup (driving wheels, apparently a 2 wheel dirve)), are being lifted of the ground while the SUV is having its rear wheels being pulled to the ground, and given it is a 4 wheel drive, that is putting more weight/traction on the SUVs rear tires... I am not a truck or SUV fan, but I am scientifically inclined and although an interesting video, the testing methodology may have people drawing the wrong conclusions...

[@taylorlivingston5963]

That Cummins would skull drag the Defender if it was in 4x4 with a bit of weight In the bed, and last a hell of a lot longer.

[@jarnosaarinen4583]

Now try the dodge in 4 wheel drive?

[@kevinmonk4046]

Static friction > Kinetic friction The main differentiator for me is that the land rover driver had his technique right. He did the equivalent of ABS. Watch how he pulses the accelerator.

[@troymontague]

Listen, Some of you are clearly not paying attention to the video, (or you are purposely instigating an argument) 1. The Dodge IS a 4X4. Look at the tailgate at the beginning of the vid. 2. No the dodge is not engaged in 4 wheel drive. 3. No the dodge does NOT have a locking differential. 4. Yes the land rover is in 4 wheel drive. 5. When you boil the tires, you loose traction, keep your foot out of the gas. 6. Do the math. 4 tires vs. 1 tire equals no traction. 7. Simple physics. 8. Have a nice day.

[@danfox1458]

Don't know if i'am one hundred right but was the 200tdi designed by ford for land rover which the 300tdi is the predecessor of.

[@StoneyPoint100]

Any reason the Cummins was never in 4WD?

[@thomaswykes3647]

That's a great way to blow up the 90 centre diff. Remember to engage diff-lock in future kids...