Does the Boberg/Bullpup9 Design Reduce Recoil?

[@BoldAlligator]

Quote of the day “Don’t break it, it cost a thousand dollars”

[@andljoy]

and its 300 extra for all the malfunctions !

[@charaznable2379]

1000 d0llar remington rm380 . rather hav an r51

[@FordPrefect23]

It didn't need any help to break, the damn thing did it all on it's own!

[@Cacowninja]

Reminds me of that GI Joe movie with the Exosuits.

[@stilllife8]

$1000 for a bad trigger, bad sights, bad ergonomics and bad reliability. Gee, I wonder why I don't see them more often.

[@metrazol]

Dang, Carl looks like he aged 20 years. Sunblock, my dude!

[@simonp1165]

I lol'ed hard :D

[@bazookaace]

Dude. He's living his best life leave him be.

[@Autobotmatt428]

Jamison Moore and lost a few inches of height

[@riffraff9000]

LOL!

[@seang5284]

I’m in the spf100 club. It sucks lol

[@LordRaa]

The smile on Joel's face when he first shoots the SIG will brighten anyone's day.

[@Ben_not_10]

LordRaa “We want one!”

[@pug-aloentertainment3801]

Totally true, that geniunely made me smile too. Such a great person

[@calebnation7797]

I’m in the market for a carry gun, and I’m definitely interested in the 365... rented one the other day and it’s super nice. I like the 938 better control wise, but the 365 seems more “practical”

[@JoeTheGre4t]

His reaction to the Sig was my reaction to the Sig M17

[@pkennedy0219]

Caleb Nation I have a 938 and I love it. Great gun has never jammed once, but I’m partial to 1911s so just my 2 cents

[@IMarcaI]

Ian you should really bring Joel on some more, he's very enjoyable. And for some reason i would like to see an 80's style action movie with him.

[@thegeneralissimo470]

Coming this summer, "Get the f*** off my lawn" Rated R.

[@phantomspaceman]

@@thegeneralissimo470 Directed by Clint Eastwood

[@thedude4795]

@@phantomspaceman "They where the first all black swim team... -Get out of the pool!"

[@helicocktor]

I wanna see him as an old retired outlaw in the old west

[@CrippledMerc]

@@helicocktor That’s closer to what I was thinking too.

[@emptyhousedweller3670]

04:41 - his reaction cracked me up 😁 so happy=) "We want one!"

[@davidcool5189]

EmptyHouseDweller Yeah, as revolver and 1911 man myself, that reaction alone was a petty solid endorsment of the Sig.

[@beefpiston]

8yo me discovering my hidden ability

[@FL_nar_Rayya]

"That's a pistol"

[@TarterSauce]

I don't blame him. I got one and it replaced my two subcompact Glocks. (26 and 43)

[@MrLotrecht]

In Germany Police use ;-)

[@planescaped]

I think you can get away with open carrying a big bore revolver so long as you wear a cowboy hat.

[@hornyducks4090]

Or have bleach white hair

[@Zretgul_timerunner]

Or being clint eastwood

[@adammanning8882]

Don’t forget that you have to wear cowboy boots and ride a horse everywhere.

[@d-rot]

I think you can get away with open carrying a big bore revolver so long as you open carry a big bore revolver.

[@WurledPeas]

I've known Joel since he lived in California. He can get away with whatever he wants to get away with regardless of headwear. Well...unless he wanted to get away with a 50 yard dash, or rock climbing.

[@ringsystemmusic]

Wow, Joel's an *amazing* host, and you guys have great chemistry even on camera! More of him please!

[@KuroNekoKohi]

I second this

[@poseidon6916]

Here here!

[@JustMakinProgress]

agree. Drop Karl and pic this guy up. He looks like he's seen some shit in his day . Favorite part: .....*BANG*...."Holy Shit!!"

[@poseidon6916]

@@JustMakinProgress Don't drop Karl! He's great! This guy is just also really good.

[@weasle2904]

@@JustMakinProgress Nah I like Karl

[@MostlyPennyCat]

"You have to identify them, you're on TV now, you're not just talking to me" _"stop pointing out of frame"_ 😁

[@-John-Doe-]

Joel: 2:17 Boberg 2:34 Kahr 2:55 Rohrbaugh R9 4:36 Sig P365 Ian: 6:30 Kahr 6:54 Boberg 7:25 Rohrbaugh R9 8:20 Sig P365 8:41 Boberg High speed: 9:59 Intro 10:37 Boberg / Bond arms rises least 16:56 Problem with Boberg mechanism

[@doge-of-venice]

God bless.

[@Wetcorps]

QUESTION : Does the Boberg/Bullpup9 Design Reduce Recoil? ANSWER : Just buy a Sig lol

[@elementalist1984]

Or forget the subcompact idea and buy either a regular compact or a normal length gun and have much less recoil even in a slightly larger caliber like 40 s&w which is the smallest I'd carry.

[@todorkolev7565]

I was honestly about to post the same reply :D

[@elementalist1984]

@ which is why it's the smallest I'd carry.

@@elementalist1984 Carry a 9 or a 10. Anything else is cringe and gay.

[@elementalist1984]

@ so carry a 10mm, because I don't like 9mm

[@shawjt82]

Ok, I SERIOUSLY appreciate it when a manufacturer sends a product to a youtuber to review, and actually gets reviewed HONESTLY! Thanks Ian, your integrity should be the rule instead of the exception 👍👍👍

[@trefod]

Go ahead and do more collaborations with this dude. He'll learn speaking to a camera eventually, but he already has the "happy face with a nice firearm" pegged.

[@Melody_Raventress]

Yes, let’s see him when Ian does a triple lock episode.

[@charlesadams1721]

Joel’s stance shows he shoots a big bore revolver and knows how to handle recoil. He also is old school of his appreciation of gun handling characteristics.

[@Isaac-ho8gh]

True and I love that he was pretty open-minded about those guns despite disliking one of them and not being into compact automatic pistols.

[@hemlockoutdoors]

Does he twist his elbow to absorb the recoil?

[@taiteraide]

that’s an automatic-don’t bother trying to dampen the recoil

[@SuperDoodler101]

When I hear the words bullpup and pistol in the same sentence, I cant help but think, "oh wow, is it blow forward too?"

[@joaquimpereira4995]

I know right

[@AnimeSunglasses]

Now I'm hoping that someone tries designing that, just so Ian can feature it in a video...

[@brudibrudi9237]

A blow forward bullpub revolver? What the heck are you on, this sounds great!

[@UpcomingJedi]

This makes me want a suppressed model 610. dumb idea too.

[@fallout_nerd1012]

@@AnimeSunglasses Blow forwards are real, and Ian covered it

[@BassicBear]

That Rohrbaugh is probably ready for a new recoil spring. The manual says you should replace it every 200 rounds.

[@Isaac-ho8gh]

Wow, that's insane if that's true.. Pistols, especially compact ones, should have much more reliable recoil springs.

[@ivankrylov6270]

@@mannys9130 I believe that, it can't have a long mechanical life given the fact its so tiny taking a 9mm... On the other hand if you design in a part to break, make it replacable and cheap

[@JuiceJive]

IIRC, 200 rounds is also the "don't trust with your life until complete" break-in period that Kahr recommends for the PM9.

[@BassicBear]

@@mannys9130 it's 100% true.

[@ucfgator2007]

The rohrbaugh is that expensive since they didn't make a huge number of them and the company ended up getting purchased by Remington in 2014. The RM380 is simply the more suitable for mass production version of Rohrbaugh's R380.

[@alphazuluz]

Joel didn’t flinch a millimeter when the Rohrbaugh didn’t fire. That was amazing. It takes some serious experience and skill to fire a snappy little gun like that and not flinch at all when the hammer drops on an empty chamber. I was seriously impressed.

[@DynamicDurge]

"Concealed carry isn't my field but it sounds interesting" What a badass 😂

[@langanjoseph]

Meanwhile in sig headquarters "Hey guys watch this" Cue hysterical laughter 🤣🤣🤣 That Joel guy seems cool, I'd like to see his take on a few other vunder veapons 😀

[@jesusisalive3227]

Sig should send Joel one!

[@petesheppard1709]

Joel's grin was eloquent and spoke louder than words. I wish you'd been able to include the Kel-Tec PF9. I've put well over a thousand rounds through mine, but it's really snappy.

[@petesheppard1709]

I’m only good for about 50 rounds per session with my PF9. After that, it starts rubbing a sore in my hand. I also have a P11 (9mm) that is not nearly as uncomfortable to shoot.

[@shelbyz1988]

The PF9 is the most unpleasant pistol I’ve ever shot. It’s so snappy and thin.

[@weizhong7865]

title could be "they managed to invent a unique jam"

Right because no other firearm needed premium ammo.

[@William_Asston]

two! the case getting ripped off the bullet is just too absurd and funny to leave unmentioned

[@zbm-2375]

I've always found Joel's Gulch to be an interesting read. He's certainly a pretty interesting guest for your show. Here's hoping we see more of him here, and on InRange.

[@matthayward7889]

I’m an unashamed bull pup fan in general, and love this pistol in all its compact weirdness

[@mrsquishyboots]

The British bullpup was designed by college students with zero engineering knowledge...its a rover

[@crushglobalists8640]

Not a fan of that price tag though...

[@charleshaynes815]

Matt Hayward me too

[@Limescale12]

well that comes along with the thumbnail origin

[@tjbarke6086]

@@crushglobalists8640 I can hear your dog whistle, shit for brains.

[@morelenmir]

Absolutely *excellent* video! I enjoyed this one more than any live-firing since you and your other pal did the one with the duplex cartridges. The 'east meets west' vibe of the older chap with obviously buckets of experience shooting traditional weapons trying out the super-modern tiny pocket pistols was really fun as well.

[@DavidM-um2uk]

Old dude ringing the steel with every shot. The Sig made him so happy!

[@Hibrass]

As soon as Joel mentioned 44spl, I knew I like him! 😁

[@samhouston1288]

There ain't nothing like a well made 44.

[@Hibrass]

Maverick44 Love the 44. Especially the special.. I have several Mag Rugers that I enjoy but my SAA 44spl Colts are my favorite play and hunting guns.. 😁

[@richardbell7678]

I am glad that you commented on the long trigger reset, as it explained why there were moments when it looked like the trigger was pulled, but the Bullpup9 did not fire-- the trigger had not been allowed to move forward enough to reset and fire the next shot.

[@Cactus_Hugger7]

I dont think I've seen Forgotten Weapons thrash a brand that severely since the Cobray Terminator. That was hilarious

[@geetarmanpete]

I love that Ian did not get the answer he wanted, but yet was satisfied with the answer given... That , my friends is honest sharing of information.

[@fablesguykol3025]

I like how you can see the difference in pistol and gun handling between you two. Joel keeps a finger around the trigger guard like how people were taught in the 70's, whereas Ian you keep your hands just tight round the grip and locked together. I find that oddly satisfying and cool to see how instinctive some of this stuff becomes for people.

[@DavidCowie2022]

If you watch KZbin on PS4, you get a few seconds of preview. The preview for this vid was the screen "Much fiddling later."

[@hellmonja]

Ian looks like he just dropped by one afternoon on Joel's place and said, "Hey man. Wanna shoot stuff?" I wouldn't mind seeing more of Joel here in Forgotten Weapons. Such a chill guy, very easy to watch, doesn't hog camera time or drop long comments, and is actually pretty funny. Next time you two make a video together, do it in front of cups of coffee...

[@AlexA-vd7li]

Ian can introduce his comrades like: - Hi, I'm Ian McCollum, and YOU'RE NOT.

[@jtip82]

Joel's reaction to Ian's statement of the Rohrbaugh costing $1000 was priceless

[@risingsun101ch]

"different isn't automatically good" New FW tshirt please. 😂

[@Inncubus-J]

Needs "But is interesting" on the back :)

[@BullCityCocktails]

The actual meme is "you might be unique but that doesn't make you useful"

[@jonathanpresson777]

We need Joel on the show more often.

[@AdMan-The-LabRat]

Joel like Ian, your brevity reeks of intellectual honesty wisdom and integrity. Thank you for helping Ian help us to learn!

[@CFABN267]

Love Ian's scientific approach to comparing these pistols.

[@Isaac-ho8gh]

Same here.

[@mrfnk]

It’s not scientific if you don’t talk about the most important thing about a gun you may have to shoot to save your or someone else’s life with. Witch gun was the most accurate?

[@abcdef5742]

Holy crap! Hi Joel! I spent many hours on your blog. Love you guys!

[@FuzzyBrains555]

The Bond arms is really cool. But I think it would be cool to see a service size one 😁

[@jonasstrzyz2469]

Not sure if the 5 inch or 7 inch makes a huge difference when we are talking about 9mm and .45 ACP. But maybe you ment a 4 or 6 in barrel, a 4 inch barrel would be really nice.

[@oldesertguy9616]

@@jonasstrzyz2469 I think what he means is the overall pistol sized up, as opposed to just barrel difference. I would like to see a full sized one, but I'm not sure it's worth the cost and time to design it for maybe a slight improvement over current full sized guns. I'm not really sure it would be an improvement, but it would be cool to see one.

[@RealMrSmit]

@@oldesertguy9616 I think the big disadvantage is that it doesn't lock the slide open, I know It wouldn't make sense in this design but in a gunfight you can't really count rounds. so you think its ready to shoot and then comes a click. so I think this is intended for only the mag thats in the pistol.

[@jonasstrzyz2469]

@@oldesertguy9616 Ok, I personally would rather take the boberg design, make one with 4 inch barrel for 9mm and 6 inch barrel for .45 ACP. And then see how concealable they are compared to non bulpup designs.

[@sandervanduren2779]

Mr. Smit with proper training, you can count rounds pretty easily. My father was in the Dutch Air Force and Army, and he was issued an Uzi during his service. To this day(40 years since he was in the military), even when he fires machine guns that are so powerful that you get “tunnel vision” when firing, he still counts rounds perfectly whether it be semi or auto firing.

[@Melody_Raventress]

I like Joel’s blog. I LOVE seeing him on camera. Please sir, can we have some more?

[@sethrich5998]

It’s so weird to hear the term “bullpup pistol” considering essentially every pistol is a bullpup configuration as the term is used for a rifle, with the trigger in front of the magazine and a transfer bar back to the sear behind the magazine.

[@flytyer232]

All of the Sig 365 haters out there are in for a surprise..... I do agree - the p365 is in a class of its own

[@rustknuckleirongut8107]

Sig should use the old guys reaction to the Sig after the other guns as a commercial.

[@wingracer1614]

No hate here, the Sig is the best in class by a mile IMO. The only problem with it is a lot of people aren't comfortable carrying a SA pocket gun. Those people should pick something else but for me, I love it. Best trigger, best handling, best capacity in a pocket gun.

[@dbmail545]

I have been waiting for Sig to work out the teething problems with this gun. Maybe time to spring for one.

[@Isaac-ho8gh]

Although SIG's quality control isn't the best at times, I agree that its a good compact 9mm Parabellum pistol. I don't hate SIG, its just that they usually aren't innovative nor as caring of their production. But they still innovate quite a bit, they even made a suppressor which is legally a muzzle brake since its basically a tube with baffles to make it considered a muzzle brake but its actually designed to have a more hollow tube go over it so the gasses actually slow down through it.

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

The Sig is excellent in design, but lacking in qc. Ron Cohen is a hack that ruined Kimber, and now he's ruining Sig.

[@RyTrapp0]

"That kinda handles like a miniature Real gun than a small gun" LOL, what a quote

[@John1Brady]

Honest and fair review here. That said Arne Boberg designed the XR9S to have the ballistic performance of a 6.5" gun with a 3.5" barrel in a 5" long gun. The rotary locking mechanism, 3.35" barrel, tighter bullet to bore clearance created that effect and Arne posted a number of tests to demonstrate this performance. The rotary locking mechanism takes about a 1/4" of slide travel before unlocking and the bullet has well cleared the barrel by that time. The Boberg grips were designed to provide some cushion to recoil and were thin vs. the Bond grips which are attractive but wide and lack the previous design feature. I have an XR9S and as long as you use correct ammunition and are aware of the proper chambering motion pulling the slide back until it stops... it has been quite reliable.

[@bengriggs1344]

"Just for kicks." Did Gun Jesus make a recoil pun?

[@thegreenman2030]

I enjoyed the fact that you had Joel in this video, he really gives a very down to earth strait up practical opinion on this subject. I would like to see him in other videos like this.

[@shkotayd9749]

5 mins in and I already know that we need more of Gun Jesus with Gun Moses!

[@SlavicCelery]

Maybe Gun John the Baptist?

[@thomassmith7451]

Starting about 4:40 the SIG went from "SIG three sixty what?" to "Shut up and take my money" a week later I had the SAS version and love that thing.

[@cheesenoodles8316]

Now I would like a video with Joel and his 44. I have meet a few desert dwellers with open carry full size guns....most are a 4 something. They all have been pleasant and polite.

[@sportsman48]

Gun Moses has some of the best trigger and flinch control I've seen. Awesome job

[@alexandruianu8432]

So, don't buy a Rohrbaugh?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

I, for one, have zero desire to ever pay for a Rohrbaugh.

[@csjudgement6012]

Damn man 4 weeks you must be from the future

[@coffeestainedwreck]

@@csjudgement6012 Patreon is a powerful thing.

[@jamesnorlin1273]

They got bought out by Remington, and changed to .380

[@GunFunZS]

I think that it has collector cache. It would probably be a decent investment as a safe queen.

[@willros6128]

We need more Joel. He’s so relaxed and entertaining .

[@grumpyboomer61]

Well, I'm definitely unimpressed by the higher dollar Rohrbaugh. The Bond Arms looks interesting from a technical standpoint. But, as a practical matter, I'll stick with my Glocks and HKs.

[@MrHugabum]

Lol when the old man waves his gun hand Ian briefly pauses and looks like "wtf dude, muzzle control"

[@ExUSSailor]

Does Karl know you're cheating on him?!

[@petesheppard1709]

Must be an open relationship; Karl and Russell Fagan seem to have a thing, too...

[@MrZippy052]

That's what Karl gets for shooting that 3G match with Iain

[@Oliver_JW]

3:01 "Don't break it! It costs $1000!" Loved the double take reaction.

[@criffermaclennan]

Just call it the bobond bullbergpup 9

[@StarkRaven59]

What started as a Bond review turned into a glowing recommendation for the SIG. From everything I've heard, they put a lot into their firearms, and it shows.

[@Morbacounet]

"Original doesn't mean better" is Forgotten Weapons motto.

[@jameslooker4791]

This is one of the few pistols I would consider for an ankle holster. This does bring a lot to the table as a backup pistol.

[@SgtKOnyx]

Ah Joel's the reason we got checked trigger guards

[@wilemelliott]

with pistols that small, It makes sense. I wouldn't mind seeing the Devel or Asp style hooked trigger guard to help keep the muzzle down

[@SgtKOnyx]

@@wilemelliott At a certain point you're burning your fingers

[@joshwist556]

SgtKOnyx I mean you see he didn’t do it for the Boberg and one of the the other pistols.

[@mrb692]

Give it a try sometime. My P320 has a serrated trigger guard front and it’s surprisingly helpful at taming muzzle rise.

[@wilemelliott]

@@joshwist556 he didn't do it with the Bond Arms because there's no place TO do it without risking your finger slipping in front of the muzzle

[@MikeLeFish]

Heh, I love Joel’s commentary, seems like the kind of guy I’d get along well with! I wish I were in the enviable position of being able to compare and contrast between different firearms like this, but I live in the UK. And even though I’m active duty military, my opportunities to shoot are incredibly few and far between, ESPECIALLY with pistols :(

[@GreatgoatonFire]

That Bullpup9 is one Ghost in the Shell looking gun.

[@fatherfletch]

Masume Shirow would be proud

[@enisylo]

"But I like my Mateba..."

[@oneproudbrowncoat]

@@enisylo when it's Kusanagi's ass on the line, use the Zastava.

[@HakureiReimuOfficial]

And that is why I want one.

[@mechwar31]

In regards to the failure to eject / rearward feed malfunction: I can think of two other weapons systems that have a similar issue and that's because they have a rather similar feed mechanism. Now granted they're not pistols however Browning's M2 and M1913 family of machine guns can experience a similar malfunction. With the Browning machine guns the d-linking/feeding arm pulls the cartridge rearward out of the belt, and then drops it down onto the bolt face. If you have a short stroke, such as a squibload, and your gunner can't manage to completely charge the weapon then you end up with a very similar malfunction to the boburg. So, the feeding arm has to first push the spent case off the bolt face prior to being able to drop the new one on there. If machine gun's bolt doesn't move backward far enough or come back with enough force, as the bolt returns forward the un-fed cartridge gets fed right back up into the feed tray and thoroughly jams everything. So while this is the first time I'm hearing of such a malfunction occurring in a pistol, for rearward feeding mechanisms this is not a totally unique issue.

[@JamesMelzer999]

Bond Arms provides a gun to try and help sell their gun. Prove the p356 is a better gun in everyway.

[@jussayinmipeece1069]

Well now they know what they need to do to fix it.

[@Desrtfox71]

As near as I can tell, a "crisp", i.e short, trigger isn't really an advantage to a concealed carry gun. That can be a liability. Additionally the P365 is heavier and larger. YMMV.

[@jussayinmipeece1069]

@@Desrtfox71 I do believe that the long trigger pull was a deliberate thing to prevent panicked people from shooting themselves.

[@bobagonoosh8483]

@@jussayinmipeece1069 It's more or less the only way we know how to make a Bullpup pistol operate. That's also why it doesn't lock back. It's just part of the design. I'm also not sure why so many people don't like it when a gun doesn't lock back. I don't see how that's an issue

[@jussayinmipeece1069]

@@bobagonoosh8483 there are a bunch of reason for wanting a pistol that locks back when empty. You can immediately tell that its empty, it reloads quicker, it clears malfunctions better and quicker. But the most important thing for me is that you can get a firearm that locks back back into a fight much quicker when seconds count and that's what you want in a defensive firearm. Scenario, You counter ambush a hijacker and his three goons , now you are still running for cover but you are empty. You grab for a full magazine while dropping the empty. You slide the full mag in and with the thumb you drop the slide and you are back in action.... Oh , wait you can because you slide needs to be racked again to chamber a round ...it did not lock back. In your haste to get back into the fight you short stroke. Now you have yo clear a malfunction. OR...you injure one hand and can't rack the slide....

[@Tinblitz]

I like the playful, slightly theatrical sense of humour your friend has. I really enjoyed the chemistry in this video.

[@jlee7811]

Can we talk about that ZERO flinch on Joel’s part when he dry fires the rohrbaugh expecting it to go bang?

[@RabidBadger_]

Doubly impressive considering he's firing a gun he knows has serious kick.

[@2Aknight762]

Thanks Joel for that excellent unbiased review of the Sig P365.

[@MrWarwick15]

More Joel please Ian! Nice Guy! Thanks, Rich.

[@zm6771]

Excellent video Ian! I'll add another vote for more collabs with Joel.

[@actuallyharuto2382]

Oh god please make this a series.

[@lancek7673]

I have the Bullpup 9 and the P365. They are both great pistols, and I enjoy shooting either. There is something about the Bullpup 9, that as a complete package, you don’t seem to notice the muzzle flip or recoil, when you actually shoot it. It just feels good in the hand. As demonstrated, it does have a long trigger pull, but it is very smooth and you get used to it very quickly. The Sig is a different animal. It is designed to hold the maximum amount of ammo in the smallest package possible. The trigger is pretty good, but not 1911 good, it still has some mush to it. It is very utilitarian, where the Bond Arms has some “class” to it. By the way, if you think the Sig is nice with the standard 10 round magazine, try it with the 12. It fits hands much better, and adds even more control. There is even a 15 round mag for the Sig now, which is great in some situations, but takes away most of the concealment advantages the pistol offers.

[@wilemelliott]

the 15s are for your backup reloads. Can never have too much ammo when the defication hits the rotary air mover

[@SpacePatrollerLaser]

Looks like the Rohrbaugh would be a great replacement for the Titanic; it's a real piece of ship

[@TrilobiteTerror]

To be fair, just like a Seecamp, some ammo will just not work well in them (which is why they have strict lists of acceptable ammo). It's the price that's paid when making a gun as small as it can be.

[@tranwc]

Love the addition of Joel’s point of view! Returning guest perhaps?

[@NicktheMac]

Bullbob Pupberg! I meant Bobpup Bullberg. No I meant Bobberg Pupbul. I give up...

[@dbmail545]

Dang! You may have sold me on the Sig 365. I had a Kahr that was constantly locking open on a magazine with cartridges in it. My thumb was hitting the slide release. I could shoot with both hands, left thumb holding right thumb, or one-handed lefty. The "fence" around the slide release on my XDs solves that issue.

[@stephenbinion6348]

Watching against the backdrop it seemed the Bond Arms Gun did recoil less. That said the SIG seemed to be best controlled. My Kahr. CW 9 is also quite flippy.

[@acresir]

4:31 - I don't know how the technique is on the thumb reloaded Robar, but on the old Sig 210 (Sig NEUHAUSEN) one is the index finger folded around the well and operating the magazine lock with the wrist of the hand holding the pistol locked.

[@Kianoho]

3:13: Me trying to calm the Mother-in-law down.

[@etherealceleste]

When you need deep carry, Bond Arms Bullpup9 is the smallest 9mm (5.1") but still has a longer barrel (3.35"). It is even smaller than almost all 380 super compacts (LCP 380 is 5.16" long). (Replace the Rosewood grips though to get the maximum width down to 0.93") Over 2000 rounds of cheap range ammo with no malfunctions yet.

[@44WarmocK77]

"But it's got a longer barrel!" -"Okay, and how much does that affect the gun's effectiveness when it's supposed to be used for personal protection against an attacker who's most likely less than 10 meters away?"

[@marblecake247]

More energy.

[@johneden2033]

Actually my dude, when you're talking about very short pistol barrels, even a 0.5-inch increase will dramatically improve hollowpoint expansion and give increased velocity. Watch Paul Harrel's video on the subject.

[@wilemelliott]

@Ganga Din Bond Arms. Boberg sold the design to Bond.

[@Isaac-ho8gh]

Energy man, it doesn't matter as much with 9mm compared to rifle cartridges due to having rather fast burning powder but a 4 inch barrel can still be quite a difference to a 2 inch barrel in this case for example. Even with hollow or soft points, it can still change their effectiveness at that range a bit.

[@JohnDoe-nf7up]

In some callibers that extra in of barrel makes terrible loads viable.

[@g54b95]

I love Joel. Living off the grid in the desert. Counter top made from 2x4s with fabric for cabinet doors. No cover on the electrical outlet. Classic.

[@xxmichaelxx7831]

HK CAWS AUTOMATIC SHOTGUN NEXT PLEASE!!!. The G11 of shotguns a truly forgotten weapon. Only MGS peace walker has a realistic depiction of the weapon

[@noahcount7132]

Enjoyed the comparison of the mini-nines and enjoyed 'meeting' your co-evaluator Joel. If you plan more comparison/evaluation videos in the future, having Joel participate in the process would be delightful. Wish you'd asked Joel to show us his carry gun and tell us the particulars.

[@danduhman1955]

Joel, it’s a Bond arms review🤣🤣🤣 Sig plug🤣🤣👍

[@flimsedom]

„I wanted to get a second opinion.“ This is why I love your channel! You never pretend to tell the absolute truth and this makes you trustworthy! Thanks for your channel!

[@233kosta]

I think the biggest takeaway from the high speed footage is that slide velocity just ain't all there is to it.

[@corvanphoenix]

I think that was a great review. I admit, you clearly showed 2 new issues with the Bond & the Boberg not found in conventional models. However I feel if you're happy going with a unique pistol in the first place, you are likely going to be ok with the odd design specific issue. Once you're aware of the feed issue, you simply consciously commit to continuing to draw the slide to the end when you cycle the action. You're told openly the pistol isn't compatible with all types of ammo, so simply keep a stock of the ammo which works. I will never own one but I'm glad someone is still making such an interesting design. Let's hope the next model has a shorter trigger pull! ;)

[@ArcturusOTE]

3:01 Gun Jesus preaching to be gentle but firm

[@doejohn8674]

Great new format! Would love to see more videos with Joel!

[@hainhatphung1371]

Ah... thought it would be the SOCOM Mk.23 shooting from Ian. Oh well.

[@saltysteel3996]

Still haven't found a better conceal carry 9mm than the Ruger LC9s Pro with aftermarket tritium night sights. Amazing trigger, recoil is low, great size and very slim makes it easy and comfortable to carry. Has been 100% reliable with every type of ammo that I've tried. It's also very accurate. Easy to operate.

[@WK-ez1kg]

Boberg/Bond Bullpup got a longer barrel: the better test would be to compare the accuracy of the guns!

[@Texsoroban]

The Rohrbaugh is 1000 because it's got more features to fiddle with than the others. and its more exciting to shoot.

[@SuperAWaC]

so, basically, it's not like they are lying, but the difference is so small as to be pretty much irrelevant. i am looking forward to the long boberg

[@zbm-2375]

To some degree. In addition, there's more that goes into felt recoil than just slide speed.

[@nate_thealbatross]

Great guest. Love collaborations.

[@DjDolHaus86]

I think the main take away from this is that 9mm parabelum is too spicy for a compact pistol. Stop trying to fix it

[@TommyTombstone]

There are plenty of guns that work well in this size. The Sig P938 being one of them.

[@DeepCFisher]

There is in fact a gun in this video that could handle 9mm

[@wsc31]

This spring I bought a P365 to replace the PPK .380 as my summer carry pistol (the G27 is my winter carry). The Sig is, to me, more comfortable to shoot than the Walther and having more and more powerful ammo on board is a big bonus. When the weather turns cool I expect that the Sig will remain my preferred, go to concealed carry, pistol.

[@stitch626aloha]

there we go.. get the- OW... Gun-Jesus, you made me laugh. Then again, Gun-Moses reacted great to the Rorbach... HOLY *BLEEEP*!

[@clawrence034]

I'd like to hear more about Joel's off grid house. I've designed a couple up in Canada, and it would be interesting to see how they work in the desert.