Don Brash on the Treaty of Waitangi

Sean Plunket speaks to Don Brash about the Treaty of Waitangi.
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[@5150show]

Defund RNZ and TVNZ

[@Cruising_the_Dash]

Lets be frank, the mainstream media in this country are absolute scumbags. As for Seymour, I don't agree with everything he says but he's got my vote on equality irrespective of colour or creed.

[@magingi]

Yes I think you're correct. Even thought the public voted out the radical left, it still remains within the main stream media and is causing NZ immense harm due to the unilateralism.

[@gavinivers8941]

David Seymour is a future PM in my mind.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Go David Seymour.

[@magingi]

I have left a perfectly reasonable reply to this(my opinion), and one person liked it, but it has now been shadow banned.

[@Anony_mutt]

@@magingi yer certainly not alone 🤷‍♂️

[@berniefynn6623]

Brash was to have spoken at massey a few years ago, braindead indoctrinated students caused so much noise the thick female chancellor, instead of telling them to go somewhere else to protest brash, she cancelled the event, depriving those who wanted to hear Brash from doing so. This is an example of the people teaching these days and the results.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Yes., I remember.That was an absolute disgrace.

[@user-rn1kk5oo7m]

This lefty attitude has been ripe in education for so many years. I spent almost all of my teaching career dodging this stuff.

[@schlookie]

Yes, I remember that. The protesting students should have been identified, and barred from graduating.

[@MandySam13]

It’s called the Thugs Veto. The academics are totally gutless and have no spine. They are bullied by left wing activists all the time. The universities are places were intolerant fools are indoctrinated now. Not places where you are taught to think. Most uni students are incapable rational debate. They think everyone with an opposing view should be silenced. This is why after leaning Left during Uni I eventually saw through their intolerance & decided to go to Centre right.

[@bigthinker281]

Well said Don. Equality for all New Zealanders!👍

[@erichatu9352]

Equality for all New Zealanders!White NZ first.Maori & Polynesia 2nd. Asia 3rd & then the rest! So, do we really offer Equality to all? Ummm!🤪😊

[@bigthinker281]

@@erichatu9352 Equality meaning all races are treated equally. Do you think separate voting rights and institutions for one race is equal?

[@jamesbroughton7635]

The problem for you is that the Treaty did not mention equality. There was no such thing as a democratic governing system at the time when the Treaty was signed. Gov General William Hobson was basically the King in New Zealand amd was like a dictator. Democratic rule didn't come till 1852, 12 years after the Treaty signing with the Constitution Act of New Zealand. And then that paid little attention to the treaty.

[@bigthinker281]

@@jamesbroughton7635 So you believe in a state where some people have a separate set of rights based on their race or ethnicity?

[@bigthinker281]

@@jamesbroughton7635 ???

[@J.Smith-rc6wh]

platform just gets more and more relevent every month, great work Sean

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

YES

[@roberthooker4970]

The platform does not back workers.

[@gordoncooke6785]

On what planet.

[@whatthe6532]

Excellent. The public on David’s side will carry the day. We are all equal. One person one vote.

[@rogerorme2396]

I live in a bubble mate I was a Maori boy punished for speaking Maori my tupuna lands were seized impacting economic base for many generations my uncles returned from war the pakeha soldiers got land the Maori did not. My mother was kicked out of a butchery because she was Maori fortunately despite this I became a successful businessman so please don't lecture us on equality the act party is simply a white supremist org together w racist Don brash who's part of the hobsons choice another right winger

[@mattyallen3396]

​@rogerorme2396 Bullocks. Big estates where carved up ( Sir James Carrolls estate for example) for Maori soldiers. The govt post ww2 took charge of Maori blocks, set them up as farms and then handed them over to the owners.

[@helenlizzystewart4908]

I am a white lady was constantly beaten up at school by Maori girls for basically being a white poor girl, but I moved on and got a life. so don't lecture me and us with the white supremacist line, there are a lot of races in NZ who are very racist against white people, and white peoples always get singled out because you know they do not react

[@murraynorris6681]

I hope the public are given the chance to have their say on this, l some how doubt it

[@mattyallen3396]

@rogerorme2396 Across the valley from me is a 11,000 acre Wi Pere Farm, further north are the Mangatu blocks which are huge. Whangara farms just up the coast from Gisborne are also huge.

[@kiwiingrid]

I'm right behind Seymour on this. Media and a few Maori don't run this country and the more they whinge and stomp their feet the more the average kiwi will see them for what they are. I don't agree with Seymour all the time but I'd hope kiwis get behind en mass.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Absolutely

[@user-mk2vi9xo9x]

It's Bizar everytime Labour are in gov, they ruin NZ and all people One people.😔

[@jamieferguson7867]

I give up have everything I will love my culture behind closed doors

[@dash-kt7uf]

The Māoris are the racists - I can believe how things are so upside down Woke bs Hi David - he C should be PM

[@andrews127]

Make anyone a shoplifter.. Pure Gold Sir.

[@olliemoose2020]

Don brash could see the writing on the wall a long time ago and the division it will cause in NZ he was the only one with the balls to try and do something about it unfortunately he got little back up from other people that should have had his back, now look what happening in this country.

[@rod-contracts1616]

A lot of people just hate the truth, preferring the lies of others, like the MSM, certain Maori, liberals, and academics.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Absolutely,go Don, you had forsight.

[@Neff17]

What’s happening exactly?

[@matakitaki1]

What is happening is the white elite aren't getting away with their corporate racism

[@greyhamlogan2255]

We are pandering to those who choose to do nothing for themselves but are happy to claim racisim when they don't get it. One person = 1 vote.

[@annemackay-ib4gy]

The public are definetly on david seymores side, so keep on keeping on david, you have a lot of support and onto a good thing.

[@tonygee3284]

great to hear you again Don

[@andreflavell3453]

Don is a very intelligent gracious person. To smart for NZ especially in these times . NZ is a open air mental institution.

[@markturner2971]

Thankyou Don, it must be so difficult putting intelligent and logical thinking into the mainstream for self absorbed and clueless people in high places to trample. People like you and Seymour and Jones are what this country needs.

[@m-egreenisland7086]

They need to sell TVNZ.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Excellent

[@nzkid2599]

Those morning tv hosts are biased!

[@Cyril_Squirrel]

It would make no difference, TV3 are as bad. Stuff is awful. Radio NZ is cringing. Th e Christchurch Press are pushing it all the time.

[@annatetiad.4991]

Talking bobble heads - every one of them. @@nzkid2599

[@m-egreenisland7086]

@@Cyril_Squirrel it would depend on who buys it.

[@PeteThecurious100]

This channel is never a waste of time ;)

[@mattheweden-pc5pk]

I was talking to a person who has come to Nz from South Africa 7 years ago, He said Nz has become more racist, just look at what the greens and Māori party behave There behaviour towards the rest of us is disgusting

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Absolutely.

[@-Free.Spirit-]

yeah but they are pushing their puppet masters narratives and intentionally acting like blm activists so to promote racism, not stop it! one interesting fact, yes Maori are indigenous in the fact that they were here before the British, BUT the current population of maori is only 17% of the population 904k. So two things alarming with that, why should so much go to the minority at the expense of the rest when we are equal according to not just the treaty but basic human rights, not separated by colour nor creed, the globalists did that! But more so, 17% is alarmingly low. The more who have come here, the more the Maoris own bloodline has been out bred. Sadly I see them as a dying race.

[@user-rn1kk5oo7m]

So true I feel for those who came here to get away from the racisism.

[@mearip6116]

rubbish....come from South Africa and start talking about Maori...but won't blame the europeans for anything 🤦‍♀️

[@-Free.Spirit-]

@@mearip6116 if you read the comment properly. He didnt mention maori. He called out BOTH greens and Te Pati Maori for pushing racist issues. That for the majority of kiwis no matter what colour you are is not appropriate and if you care to read what Seymours bill is about its nothing maori didnt have pre what labour tried to do which was creating racism and that's what instigated all this. He wants it so its protected for all and so the likes of Ardern cant do what she tried

[@jamesdick9153]

We live in an era when shouting down elected people, is deemed acceptable. Questioning media lies, not so much. Water ownership is about the financial benefits that come from it.thank you for your public service dr brash

[@broniabutler4166]

Well said Don, keep up the good work on Hobsons Pledge

[@paulwhitehead4449]

Don Brash is an intelligent decent man, he speaks sense. I wish more New Zealanders would listen to his ideas, our land would be a better, less divided place.

[@macolmlnz]

I remember voting for don brash ✅

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Excellent choice

[@geraldseymour5044]

Why 🤦‍♂️

[@JG-us9lu]

If you dont know youre either to young or to dumb​@@geraldseymour5044

[@neil3488]

Fantastic interview - great commentary from Don Brash! I remember the 2005 Election; it was so close: Party vote was 41% Labour vs. 39% National.

[@nzkid2599]

It was even closer

[@StGammon77]

David Seymour is a class Act

[@Kult365]

You spelt ass wrong😂

[@tim2muntu954]

20 years since the Orewa speech seems like a lifetime ago. That was when being called "racist" still has some content. Since the spreading hegemony of social justice fundamentalists, probably the majority of New Zealanders have realised smears like "racist", "white supremacist", or "far right" have been worn out with overuse and now simply mean anyone who opposes the woke agenda. Many now see the whole racial agenda was only ever about power.

[@Oceanfoxy]

I’m watched from Australia, and it’s been hard to watch when the vote for no went through, people got very crazy, this is why we have democracy. We have to respect that time moves on, we aren’t divided by race anymore, it’s getting tired

[@heywopics7485]

Our msmedia are a huge problem in this country. I often wonder how this coalition government got elected as it was despite our msmedia. I expect had Labour not been our worst government in decades the Right would not have been elected due to.NZ's msmedia bias, lack of balance and the running to.its own narrative. I deplore them and their lack of ethics.

[@mikee4639]

I don’t think some want a debate. They want their points and only their points to be all that’s heard, otherwise they would be happy to have a debate, without name calling. IMO

Don’t sell TVNZ; close it down.

[@bennichols1113]

I just looked at a contract for a council and it started with we follow the treaty and prioritize maori and went on to say not to be racist.

[@tokoloshi214]

NZ should look at how the current SA government managed to split a nation along racial lines by implementing preferencial policies . Black Economic Empowerment is an excellent example. Once you have given preference to one racial group, democracy, equality, and inclusiveness ends.

[@JG-us9lu]

They just reversed apartheid. The difference in SA the blacks outnumber the whites.

[@Neff17]

There’s been one racial group in this country that have been given preference for over 180 years

[@JG-us9lu]

@@Neff17 Here, here the Maoris would be the most racist people in our society. Thanks for pointing it out.

[@Neff17]

@@JG-us9lu hmmm not what Mike Bush thinks though

[@JG-us9lu]

@@Neff17 That excuse for a Policeman hes part the problem. They tolerate this criminal element far too much. Look not all Maori are the same, infact most are great people and get on with life like rest of us. But there are the gangs and the racist Te Pati Maori party who stir up racial disharmony to for their own gain. The gangs for drugs and theft and TePati Maori for a few who think they Elite and are grifting for personal financial gain. Example: Willie Jackson who has made a lucrative career out of race baiting.

[@5150show]

Take the cheaty to a referendum

[@serenasmith26]

Why should a group of people get more of anything because of their ethnicity?

[@StGammon77]

The Maoris think Pakeha have more equity so we should pay for them to develop to our level. It's ridiculous since Pakeha are not a racial collective with trust accounts, in fact Pakeha are not racial people neither are they all successfully doing well. Maori radicals have spread a lot of terrible data that isn't reality due to their tribal mentality. All this extractor Maori, shouting their sovereign and the Country is theirs to decolonise is treason and breach of the Treaty.

[@Anony_mutt]

Customary roits! ✊🏼

[@serenasmith26]

That's bullshit and everyone knows it!@@Anony_mutt

[@user-fb2he6vb2d]

The funny part was it wasnt in orewa it was in silverdale .It was in a building right beside the silverdale united rugby club .

[@mr2981]

Silverdale, always the bridesmaid.

[@brucegibbins3792]

My goodness, how about that. Time to re-write the history books.

[@rod-contracts1616]

​@@brucegibbins3792Re-writing history being highly fashionable.

[@Anony_mutt]

​@@rod-contracts1616...oy vey

[@geraldseymour5044]

Dirydale😂

[@overover..]

Enough to make anyone a shoplifter! 😂

[@hydrosafari]

What is a “non-maori” should this term be changed to “New Zealander”?

[@davethewave7248]

It was once said that Bill Rolling was the last gentleman of NZ politics. I think this title beongs to Don Brash.

[@ralphfoley4827]

This is all a distraction. The problem is the economy is going from bad to worse and we are all fighting over a shrinking pie. We need to encourage hard work and entrepreneurship. If we had a genuinely strong economy we wouldn't even be arguing over this stuff.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Absolutely

[@ronaldwarren1267]

And who f credit up the economy grant somebody and side kick cindy

[@jeffmcintyre2091]

They dont understand plain english.period

[@robinterry8242]

A few years ago an elderly friend of mine made a comment which I have never forgotten " In years to come the only land that will be owned in NZ by New Zealanders will be Maori Land "

[@bennichols1113]

If racism is an issue then its a government issue. We are not equal. " for a group to be appointed a minister the government must have proof that group needs help" NZHRC. So all groups with ministers are inferior to groups without ministers. Thats why non maori men are the only group without a minister.

[@dianefitzgerald1693]

Some Maori believe there are two versions and two different meanings of the Treaty, that the English one was for the English, and the Maori one was for the Maori. Logically, the English version came first & was translated badly into Maori.

[@davethewave7248]

While many believed it was translated very well, and communicated verbally very well to the chiefs. What's going on is a program of propaganda that says there are two fundamentally different meanings to the treaty... when there isn't. There are just two translations. The idea of a different treaty only began in the 1970s~~

[@StGammon77]

Maori language is a grammatical mess with meanings and definitions made up as time goes by. We all speak English now so the final English writ should be the only reference considering the disaster made out of the translation which noone understands! It just gave rulership to Britain it doesn't need to be twisted to mean the opposite

[@anthonykaumoana9356]

My comment on the Treaty Of Waitangi is only that it should be honoured

[@berniefynn6623]

The treat sole makes maori subjects of the English Crown,NOTHING more.

[@user-ub5ci1ce7o]

All politicians & public need to better understand the treaty in its entirety better. Not just pick and choose what points they want to support. Once this is understood then are we able to move forward as a nation. I’m pretty keen for those knowledgeable individuals from both sides to debate this in the public arena.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

If I came back in 100years.There would still be arguing. It will never be resolved.

[@JG-us9lu]

What does amaze is how many 100+ Moaris there are.

[@JG-us9lu]

@@Montell-ys2dj bad spelling or wind up.

[@djhemirukahemisphere8893]

Right of the bat. The idea of taking anything away from anybody is the premises of logic ? Doesn't make any sense at all

[@roberthooker4970]

In the previous interview . Equaity! What does this mean? It depends a view point and your current situation.

[@tangihorofitzgerald915]

Lets give Don Brash a medal for standing up for Racism. Lets give the Maori Battalion the Honour for Defending Aotearoa against Hitler, the Father of Apartheid...

[@Tupunaforever]

The full context of the Treaty incorporates the 1835 Declaration of Independence. Until that's sorted

[@StGammon77]

Yeh independence from warring tribes

[@khzn9309]

Mate racism in this country has been around for years whereas these days we just thinking out aloud about only one positive thing that comes from this is that we know where one another stands no beat around the bush no more under ones breathe just out loud live and direct putting it on the table for everyone to see and create a space for discussions of everyones Truths to the Matter.

[@sunstar1630]

Maori want Iwi authority over New Zealand. The Language and the Culture must replace the present language and culture and a tribal government with a Maori King as head of State. This system gives Maori complete Authority over all other Races.

[@vumba1331]

And we all know who would pay for it, everybody else!

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

We dont want that thanks.

[@kareemhetaraka-brown1259]

Sounds great!!

[@user-mc6js8or3r]

​@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj we want our country back

[@xxunisxx-zx3hu]

Hobsons pledge in yellow ...you will not get your bill passed the line...prediction

[@kingdavid3066]

how you gonna talk about equality ? look at the imprisonment rate

[@StGammon77]

That is equal punishment tho it has nothing to do with race, but Maori need to stop being assholes!!

[@daledj6768]

You wonder if M.S M is a political party with 1 view

[@AyJayW]

Wouldn't freedom be more of libertarian value than equality?

[@roberthooker4970]

D Brash. Another ACT party person.

[@laelles1313]

I saw you walk into a glass door at New World the other day Mr Plunket. Hope you are feeling okay, it looked like a nasty fall

[@johnburnett3942]

If we want equal rights for all. Then the Maori party needs to be scrapped. They should stand on their own merits. Not a gravy train.

[@gordoncooke6785]

Did you both click your heels when you met😮😢

[@JohanThiart]

If one looks at SA style Apartheid it is easy to see if there was a Treaty in South Africa that the Apartheid policies implemented by the South African governments would never have happened! History shows that the Apartheid policies of the National Party in South Africa was the manifestation of actual practices at the time in South Africa.

[@deksper]

"... I think would make anybody a shoplifter." LOL

[@drinkingup2157]

Oh dear , where did you find dear old Don. Didn't he claim he couldn't be a racist because his secretary , who he was having an affair with , was from Singapore , or had he married her by that stage ? After the Orewa speech he fired the National Party Māori Affairs spokesperson Georgina te Heuheu because she wouldn't support him.

[@xxunisxx-zx3hu]

Don ...it is what the people of that time thought , not your interpretation of the wording.. New Zealander did not mean colonist. Your wrong bud

[@horusmedia6399]

David Seymour isn't a Libertarian, he's a grapefruit.

[@paddygeo]

Racist & Divisive brash

[@kieranmurphy14]

Seymour picks and chooses when he stands for individual rights and equality. He never spoke out against the government over covid mandates and vaccine passes when it mattered.

[@vanyawere5938]

True that in fact none of them did

[@hoodyhoori]

te whakahinga i ngā PAKEHA

[@yogibear4682]

No idea what it says, but it will be some racist trash judging by the usage of the racial slur towards whites.

[@xsduprwd3937]

lol, then who will pay the bills?

[@StGammon77]

You already lost and thank goodness the Chiefs became Christians

[@jameskjx]

Bullshit. Of course Seymour is "rewriting the treaty" - what the treaty says is nothing like Seymour's bill. If ACT wanted a debate, that's one policy, they could have asked for funding for meetings or hui or debates or whatever. A debate is not at all what ACT wants, and their Bill is not about having a debate but about rewriting the treaty to abolish Māori qua Māori from NZ's polity,

[@StGammon77]

Everyone speaks English so the Littlewood Treaty is the Mother of tea tereetee

[@chrwoo74]

Regurgitation, this old pointless racist needs to stay at home

[@StGammon77]

Racist? Take him to court then primitive man

[@benyandall7598]

I wish all new Zealanders studied treaty of Waitangi or The Riti o Waitangi under the bachelor of Social worker.It may changed some of the confusion about the principles context and concept of the Te Riti I Waitangi.I feel so blessed to identify some of the issues within the Treaty. Pacific people are so get along with Maori and pakeha and other European People. But I don't understand why Seymour mentioned that the treaty was meant to bring all new Zealanders together and get along with each other but they already did. Maybe it's him that needs to get along with Maori people and other ethnic group.. Think twice .😊😊

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

I dont blame him.

[@StGammon77]

Maoris have become racists obsessed with a fake culture we let you play with, we know you weren't having poi concerts ok lol

[@Kult365]

The Vampire thrall doesn't like being called "racist"... if it walks like a duck...

[@maggigee6867]

Co-governance is what was agreed to in our nations founding document. Its not a new thing and it really shouldn't be treated as something controversial. If you owned a home and invited people to live that home with you, and then years down the track the acted like your ancestors had no right to be part of the big decision making for the home, wouldn't you fight for it? Forget ethnicity, imagine two families, and they invite their friends families too, and then their friends invite their own friends and soon its a party and then you all decide that the home owners don't more of a say than the guests you invited last. It just doesn't make sense. The arguments AGAINST co-governance make perfect sense for the guests that arrived last, they're entitled to nothing but someone wants to offer them decision making powers, ofcourse they're gonna take it!

[@StGammon77]

There's no co in te tiriti lol

[@nigelmadden7329]

Seymour is polite enough. However what hes trying to do will undermine a partnership agreement between Maori and the Colonists. You cant then decide to undermine and change the understanding of that agreement when it becomes politically opportune to do so. Calling the aforemented action, a defence of democracy is disingenuous and cynically devious. The treaty tribunal was a body of integrity. Best not to leave it to politicans and a media campaign.

[@StGammon77]

Maori have altered the meaning but we supremist God's of the sea know what it means lol

[@kiz11a]

It’s the sneaky Maori elite who’s changing the understanding of that agreement since in became politically opportune for them. NZ is for all New Zealanders not just for the Maori, sorry

[@ashernikora5942]

Seymour is using equality as the smokescreen for progressing big business interests...and Te Teriti is the impediment for big business achieving their goals of self interest and greed

[@heywopics7485]

Weird comment. It's democracy versus tribal rule, assume you favour the latter.

[@user-no3sl6xz1i]

​@@heywopics7485and your isn't weird 😂😂

[@heywopics7485]

​@@user-no3sl6xz1iAs the other Winston (Churchill) said: democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time

[@user-no3sl6xz1i]

@@heywopics7485 sorry I misread your comment

[@heywopics7485]

​@@user-no3sl6xz1i👍😊

[@Matika_awatea]

Doesn’t know anything about Māoridom doesn’t speak Māori knows sweet f all

[@StGammon77]

Maori language is a mess and doesn't man anything to 95% of NZdrs we all speak and understand English which has become a worldwide communication language.

[@Neff17]

So you’re saying 95% of NZers can’t read te tiriti..? No wonder Seymour wants a referendum

[@Matika_awatea]

@@Neff17 tiaki come on now

[@Matika_awatea]

@@StGammon77 shame that cause old dinosaurs like you will have children and grandchildren and there kids will speak it and also have Māori partners 😘 see you at the marae bud

[@Neff17]

@@Matika_awatea e hoa my comment was a reply to stgammon77

[@Thewandereringanzac]

One law for all people…why not make it Maori law then? If you want one law you want it only because it suits you. Why does it have to be colonial pakeha law? Especially when te tiriti gives Maori rights to self determination and rights to everything in NZ. Just be happy that Maori have only taken something like 4% of what they’re owed by the crown. Now you want to take away our sovereignty and give it to the govt? You’ll all lose out. That’s because you’re not seeing clearly and are blinded by your bias. We’re lucky to have te tiriti and he whakaputanga. Don’t be so hasty to try and erase them. Maori should have all rights bestowed upon them in te tiriti. And it’s not gonna hurt anyone.

[@StGammon77]

Maori had no law and Order hence the Treaty lol

[@Keepitsimple183]

Seems to me it's not Maori who are doing the stomping and whine about the Treaty.

[@mearip6116]

Just leave the treaty alone....Europeans always wants to make NZ a little Britian🤦‍♀️just leave the Maori culture and language alone.... No one is divided....its all in your head🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@whatthe6532]

Have you been awake at all in the past 10 years.

[@yogibear4682]

Oh dear, so blind, probably an ardern cult follower and believes in racist division.

[@StGammon77]

Writing sovereign documents is not your culture, we have British rule here not cannibal barbarian witchcraft

[@Te_Enzo_]

Western Cultural isnt the best for all.. Its funny, because everyone never spoke up about killing Māori culture.. An now Māori are fighting for theor culture, everyone getting cut up...

[@mattyallen3396]

Its had funding for over 40 years. Why hasn't it worked?

[@Te_Enzo_]

@mattyallen3396 well, because before we started. We had our culture stripped from us 🤷🏽.. So its hard to rebuild something that for god knows how long was beaten out..

[@StGammon77]

Too fkn bad it's gone the Chiefs did away with their dark past in favour of Pakeha and Christianity became the new Tikanga and we built an amazing Country that we ALL enjoy as free people not subjects of extremist racist half breeds!!

[@StGammon77]

​@@Te_Enzo_rubbish

[@Te_Enzo_]

@@StGammon77 History is crazy ae... Especially with facts