Don’t Ask Google's AI for Advice!

[@Mellie2605]

These guys talking about a grey phone like it’s some sort of colour explosion is throwing me off so hard.😅 I didn’t even spot the tiny bit of colour until like 5 minutes in.

[@jordanallen2148]

For real I still confused

[@mon699]

I legit thought they were being sarcastic until I realised they weren’t

[@kindofanmol]

I saw it irl in a Croma store and the colours are actually much punchier than they look in pictures and videos

[@toptiertech7291]

@@kindofanmolbut 95% of the phone is still just grey😂 I thought they were joking. They compared it to the purple iPhone and mystic bronze Samsung phones

[@NeilRohrig]

Oh so you're the person that thry're talking about that takes clearly sarcastic things as fact haha

[@Misterdavidc]

The zoom-in on Andrew on the floor 😂

[@moonpie21012]

He looked like a little kid who’s been naughty!😂

[@parthchaudhari1711]

poor andrew 🤣

[@MegaIronMan]

I wanna say Andrew and David are just texting each other through the whole thing about how they don't know what's going on LOL

[@Aria_Saarkia]

This made me laugh so hard. So much love for Andrew

[@darrenbutterworth807]

I completely missed Adam's question because of that zoom - had to rewind! Brilliant editing as always! 👍💯

[@jdjb78]

I like this episode -- Andrew on the floor, Andrew and David texting back and fourth because neither have any idea what's going on with cars, and the quick appearance of the dog at trivia time. 😂

[@nathanmrudd]

An impact DRIVER is not used for drilling holes, but intended for DRIVING screws without stripping them. The impact is not ‘in and out’ like a hammer drill, but impacts the bit radially after a certain amount of tension occurs on the bit. Once that occurs a hammer within the impact driver slips over the anvil, rotates and picks up speed without the bit moving and impacts the anvil thus creating a momentary burst of torque on the bit. A hammer DRILL moves a masonry drill bit quickly in and out along the axis of the drill bit to essentially hammer the drill bit into the concrete. Two very different tools for different tasks.

[@jessiejames3029]

Interesting I work in construction and didn’t know exactly how an impact worked. Thanks for sharing

[@shantanusaha9746]

@@jessiejames3029 There are KZbin videos where an impact driver is cut open to expose the working parts to show how the torque impactor works. This is also why when you're using one, it starts to click a lot if you drive a screw into a material that requires a lot of torque to drive in. It's not advisable to use impact drivers with screws that are too soft, because you can tear the screw right off if the material is too hard and the screw isn't made for impact drivers.

[@JordanKicklighter]

Yep, which is why I picked the same thing as Andrew when he called it a Driver.

[@jmunt]

They’re designed for different tasks, BUT either tool can do basic drilling. Many manufactures have started making drill bits compatible with impact drivers, and many of my only-mildly-handy friends I know just use an impact driver for everything rather than buying 2 tools. *if you aren’t drilling into anything that requires a hammer drill*, a good impact driver is a better drill than a mediocre drill

[@jmunt]

All that to say, Ellis isn’t crazy to think an impact driver is the same as a hammer drill. Many “normal” people do use drivers to drill which makes the difference between an impact driver and a hammer drill that much more confusing for the layman.

[@IamYuto]

“She goes to a different college/school” made me crack up so much. Love the chemistry between the team.

David during the Porsche segment is me when the group I'm hanging out suddenly starts talking about soccer. 😅

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

What does a 911 have to do with soccer?

[@peterlumwanga428]

@@Daniel-dj7fhwhat he means is that they are talking about something that he does not understand. He is comparing it to soccer because he does not know anything about soccer like David does not really know anything about proche… comprendre?

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

@@peterlumwanga428 Ah, I see, try wording things a bit nicer next time tho.

[@soundninja99]

@@Daniel-dj7fh They worded it perfectly, and both I and peterlumwanga got the metaphore. No need to be rude just because you didn't understand it

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

@@soundninja99 How am I rude, bro could have just explained it in a nice way.

[@chadbjornberg2896]

🤣 The awkward "dolly shot"/zoom in on Andrew starting at 01:10:24

[@nuggyfresh6430]

lol

[@Kirmo13]

1:06:32 "DR. Brownlee" lmao after his honorary doctorate everyone in the office should call him like that

[@akashdeepsingh6999]

Marques is a type of guy who demands matt black version of a transparent back glass.

[@ibn_aboulrohman]

lol🤣

[@Hotsauceonmy]

Matt Black is my favorite MKBHD employee

[@DiamondMaster115]

Miles saying Dr. Brownlee was awesome 😂

[@JoyzaInnovations]

MKPHD IN THE HOUSE ( also the phone 2a special one looks awesome)

[@Shirley36]

my favorite part is the slow zoom-in on Andrew sitting on the floor, that was hilarious 😂

[@glazed-bp]

Someone please tell me I’m not the only one who says “and I’m David” at the same time as David during the intro

[@enburst]

The parachute hallucination was probably based on a medical trial that I am familiar with called "Parachute use to prevent death and major trauma when jumping from aircraft: randomized controlled trial" The purpose of which was a commentary on the utility of randomized controlled trials in medicine and how you don't always need this in every situation as some therapies are already time tested.

[@naticolin]

The slow zoom of Andrew is the best part of this episode 1:10:25

[@The_Silver_Lurker]

Its good to see Marques coming around to being an ACTUAL car enthusiest. It takes time but he's getting there!

[@PhilKnall]

What're you talking about, half of the podcast episodes has been about cars 😅 I know because I skip through them...

[@The_Silver_Lurker]

@@PhilKnall exactly why you wouldn't get it.. Lol

[@PhilKnall]

@@The_Silver_Lurker point taken lol

[@brendankilkenny]

David's "Bad, no, don't do that" at 27:11 needs a remix.

[@brendankilkenny]

Vindicated in the following episode. Amazing.

[@matthewuzhere]

an episode with coffeezilla would be awesome, you guys have to do that ASAP

[@Fuuntag]

Googles AI tried to gaslight me into believing a muffin recipe was a cookie recipe the other day. It stopped talking to me when I proved it was doing this. GOOD JOB

[@cyclotrojan]

build your own AI then

[@Shotblur]

​@@cyclotrojan "you think this dog poop tastes bad? let's see how well you make dog poop" rings pretty hollow; you don't have to be an expert to know when something sucks

[@joethompson11]

Something about this one felt so tied together, like they all found their best rhythm at the same time. Love it

[@Kel.Vision]

1:35:36 God I love it when Ellis makes up stuff. He’s so good at it! 😂

[@jackham2549]

andrew sitting on the floor playing with his phone behind Ellis and Adam made me laugh.

[@oo7240]

Dont know of it's just me but I feel like lately we've been getting more of Dr Brownlee's scarcasm and humour in the podcast and I am really here for it ! The whole team always just gives good vibes, y'all do amazing work !

[@saphna2095]

love Adam:D from his lamb joked to the enthusiasm of fitting 2 saxophones, a flute and all the backpacks into the frunk of the new Porsche

[@14Mechatronics]

In an impact driver, the "impact" is for the torque, i.e. twisting a bolt in/out. For a hammer drill, the "hammering" is in the direction you're drilling, i.e. into a brick wall. You'd use an impact driver with fasteners, and a hammer drill for drilling into hard things. Not a contractor ;)

[@jmunt]

Not a contractor but want to clear up confusion with the last question. Impact drivers do “hammer” but an actual “hammer drill” hammers parallel to the drill bit like a jackhammer, whereas the hammering of an impact driver is applied in the direction of rotation (like hitting a wrench with a hammer), so its designed for tightening bolts/screws, not drilling. BUT recently a couple manufacturers have created drill bits that can be inserted into the impact driver attachment, and people realized it can drill 95% as good as a dedicated drill, so many people have recently started to use impact drivers as a drill cuz it works well enough and then you don’t need to spend money for both. For serious work, you need both, but if you just want a drill for simple stuff around the house, it’s more than enough for most people to just buy an impact driver and the right type of drill bits

[@Lun4rVisi8n]

“The Silence of the LAMs” 😂

[@kerbysj]

You wouldnt believe this. After the whole Wan show falling asleep the other week. I had a nap after surgery.. Woke up to this!

[@millionzepf]

1:26:33 Miles is aboslutely right about this, the way cars are getting faster and faster will only make them more dangerous. You don't need +1000hp and a sub-three second 0-60 to have a good time.

[@afjer]

Definitely agree. Though one time I wished for it when someone tried to trap me in the passing zone of a two lane highway. Forced games of chicken are terrifying.

[@mrcpaceo]

Silence of the LAM’s was sooo goood 🤣🤣🤣

[@NicoleH.-rl5dp]

I always start wanting to listen it on the side screen blacked and end up stopping what I'm doing and watching, because I love the interactions^^ favourite crew!

[@chevy_21]

omg same here. I start listening on Spotify and just quit to watch the video 😂

[@JulianDN]

Samesies

[@blackkingsize]

This was one of the best podcasts ngl. The portion where y’all talked about cars was so nice. Watching these podcasts is always such a nice treat. Thanks y’all 🎉

[@iiTzMarco2211]

Having Miles on the Pod was awesome! Really fun to listen to him :)

[@luistrejo1723]

The fact that Marques said half a gb when the first trivia question was asked and didn’t actually write it down as his final answer 😭😭

[@BluDaFloof]

I wish Apple would do more unique colors for their pro lineup. When the 14 pro released with the deep purple color, i immediately grabbed it! Seeing the purple glisten in the sunlight is always so mesmerizing to me! Especially since I don’t use a case on my phone.

[@kindofanmol]

Nothing has been making such banger phones lately. The design and software experience are unmatched. Props to them.

[@x219c]

Wow, Andrew was completely right about the impact driver. I was shocked, just because I didn't take him as enough of a tool guy to have spotted that. The other type of drill they were talking about is a hammer drill, which will hammer on the base of the bit, essentially, driving it into the surface while the drill continues spinning without any impacts.. The impact driver uses a hammer to spin the bit, but not impact it towards the surface being driven into, almost like taking a wrench on a screw driver and hitting it with a hammer to spin the bit. Great call Andrew.

[@Manganellia1]

I definitely don't have much tool knowledge, but when I bought my house I got a Milwaulkee set with an impact driver and a drill, so have a little more knowledge about those 2 things!

[@FreelancerSystem]

Contractors apprentice here. A hammer drill is a standard drill used for boring holes that has a piston inside to hammer the bit. Hammer drills are most commonly used to put holes in concrete. An impact driver has a hydraulic-like hammer that operates as a way to increase the turning torque in order to drive things like screws into hardwood or lag bolts without overwhelming your grip and ripping your hands off. TL;DR: Hammer drills punch into what you're drilling while you drill. Impact drivers increase turning torque while keeping your hands safe

[@DiamondMaster115]

I'm glad to see you watched the Louis Rossman video, he definitely put everything into perspective. A company as big as Spotify needs to own up and do the right thing, and I'm glad they did...

[@1-eye-willy]

i know i lol'd when they were talking about louis😂

[@gajazura]

The Nothing Phone 2a 'Special Edition' colours do remind of the Gundam RX 78-2 as well ..

[@NakamaCamping]

Gestalt is indeed German. It could be translated as "form" "shape" or "figure".

[@Dubious_George]

I love that the car segment has a subplot to engage the people that don't know about cars.

[@shortymcshort4608]

The Silence of the Lam joke was GOATED and I refuse to believe otherwise.

[@brentspotswood]

1:10:24 someone needs to do the Sad Affleck edit on that zoom in 😂

[@ChrisKerel]

the zooms on andrew and the faces of the non-car people are a nice touch

[@kacperolszowski1331]

1:03:07 It's not their first hybrid sports car, did everyone forgot about 918 spyder??

[@kaseybarber3664]

Amazing car too

[@Luztinn]

That “porcelain angels” comment by Ellis is such a good reference. How can you be so bold, yet so brave? lmao

[@xperryment]

Ellis "Dunning-Kruger Effect" Rovin

[@jamilajasmine]

hallucinating is such a funny adjective to use in this context LMFAOO

[@MatthewGlenEvans]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who saw the ai overview announcement and was like, "wait, I opted in to that? I thought everybody already had it"

[@inter_stellar]

I guess a lot of us were just playing around with the labs feature

[@DoingOK]

A less flashy / funny Google AI failure was when I recently asked it a question about Amazon’s return policy and I realized they were giving an answer that only applied to returning rare coins. I was not returning a rare coin.

[@diando19]

I can't believe Ellis referenced the "Porcelain Angels" 😂

[@CharlF932]

AI limitations might come from our own limitations to be honest. One way you could fix all this things would be by categorizing information and websites, letting AI know what sites are highly fact checked, what other places are questionable and what are straight pure opinions and fake news. But that would put companies on a spot they probably don't wanna be in, so far it's up to people to decide if what they're reading is real or not

[@toptiertech7291]

And that’s why AI will never be a worry. AI can’t know anything more than we know. And it even knows less because it doesn’t understand sarcasm

[@sovereigncalifornia]

Hearing Miles call Marques Dr. Brownlee is a trip. It’s wild how far he has come.

[@cmmartti]

As per Wikipedia, > Honorary doctorates are purely titular degrees in that they confer no rights on the recipient and carry with them no formal academic qualification. As such, it is always expected that such degrees be listed in one's curriculum vitae (CV) as an award, and not in the education section. With regard to the use of this honorific, the policies of institutions of higher education generally ask that recipients "refrain from adopting the misleading title" and that a recipient of an honorary doctorate should restrict the use of the title "Dr" before their name to any engagement with the institution of higher education in question and not within the broader community.

[@sovereigncalifornia]

@@cmmartti yeah but that won’t stop your friends from jokingly roasting you by calling you doctor

[@cmmartti]

@@sovereigncalifornia True facts.

[@TechTalkWithO]

Andrews keycap set said "loobed" 😂

[@S.Kottearachchi]

Who else says the full version of intro and outro music should be uploaded as the anthem of the tech nerds?

[@eagletj80]

I’ve watched and listened to a lot of Waveform episodes…this has to be one of my favorite. 😍 From the zoom-ins on Andrew or Miles and Marques talking about the new 911s to the last trivia section. Soooo good. ❤🎉

[@karthikophobia]

Andrew zoned out sitting on the floor was how I felt during the car section

[@sourabhkatti]

Where is the peas video pls

[@LaraMauk]

“Friendsgiving but make it green peas” is what I typed in

[@jobvantuijl]

It’s in the description now. But i’m getting the following message: 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons”

[@PhilKnall]

Wild how they talked about it twice and didn't put a second of it on screen

[@shiverpoolcody]

Sent it to a friend who doesn’t like peas. Made her gag!!!!! 🤣

[@neonswift]

"Cats on the Moon" is the name of my 80s Rock Ballad.

[@smithandshortdogs]

On corvettes and the letter z... GM options are generally given an RPO code. These codes are 3 charecters. IIRC codes for suspension options all start with Z. The option may include other things but it will always have a suspension upgrade. On the full size trucks there is Z71 and Z66 The old s10 has the ZR2. Camaro has Z28 ZL1... Cavalier had Z24 Monte Carlo Z34 and a bunch more. Other leading letters mean other things... On chevies L usually is a trim package (like LTZ) or an engine (LS1)... B4C means a cop car... Sometimes it depends on the vehicle... ZL1 is a camaro with a supercharger and upgraded suspension or an 8000 lb towing package.

[@M-X39462]

24:51 has me in tears 😂😂

[@razt3757]

With regards to the R1 section, I have a feeling the LAM is just another name for what is known in the industry as Langchain and more recently in Microsoft land as Semantic Kernel. Those two are ways of orchestrating the LLM in such a way that they tell your frontend, in this case Playwright, what functions to execute. You attach descriptions to some code function, like "This function skips to the next song", so that when the LLM gets a voice command from the user, it invokes the playwright function to skip the song on the spotify webapp in the vm in the cloud. It's not a LAM, it's a generic LLM, like gpt-3.5-turbo or gpt-4o, that is able to map a sentence to a code function to execute, it wouldn't know how to click the skip button without invoking the script function.

[@LDreTheGiant]

I don’t mind the ai results mostly because I’m often googling a simple quick answer question

[@mikozok]

Marques is low key SO funny

[@LIONGOD]

I think the best part about this... is that I'm listening with ATH M50x monitors, so I'm getting the same experience as the guys at the studio making this podcast

[@boi_mayor]

My 2006 Suzuki Gran Vitara had the little ignition knob you turned in place of a key or push button. It was awesome. I miss it.

[@bhumikpatel9602]

There's also a special blue edition 2a which looks better than the black one. But i guess it is for India specific

[@toptiertech7291]

I have AppleCare. It’s $10 a month. It’s $29 for a repair. There’s so many Apple stores and you can even get them fixed at Best Buy. It’s normally the next day availability for repair as well. Apple is honestly one of the easiest companies to get a repair from

[@CasualViewer-t4f]

I feel the same way. Mind you, I’ve only needed a few repairs but I have had solid customer service every time.

[@toptiertech7291]

@@CasualViewer-t4f yeah these people are talking about repairs without insurance which isn’t cheap for any flagship

[@jzzsxm]

The peas video is NOT in the show notes!

[@matthewuzhere]

i can see it now, they might have added it

[@PabAng]

Regarding the stuff with Rabbit launching without actually delivering on the large action model, in personal experience, its legitimately the advice that they’re giving in business schools about startups, build hype, get partners, get people riled up to drive investment before even getting on actually delivering a product. The words of some business professors legitimately is “Get your product to look like it works for long enough to drive investment so that you can actually build a functioning product”. Even Y combinator has classes and videos that straight up advise on just playing catch-up to investor expectations rather than just trying to actually build a good product.

[@savikate]

Wow

[@SICK_ICON]

Over 30 comments for a 1 hour 30 minute video that just dropped 10 minutes ago that I'm 100% sure nobody has watched yet. 😂

[@MaxArthey]

Reading out the Google Graveyard during the trivia needs to be a main stay 🤣🤣

[@JJs_playground]

1:03:29 the key on the left of the steering wheel hearkens back to the days of Le Mans racing. Where you had to run to your car from across the track, get it turn on your car and belt yourself in. You'd turn on the car with your left hand, while you're seatbelting yourself in. You don't need that anymore.

[@obsydian806]

No you don't need it. But there is a satisfaction in turning a key and hearing the car roar to life vs pushing a button and hearing silence. Idk, I still love knobs for volume control (which we don't need anymore) and physical switches for climate control (which we don't need anymore), sometimes a design is as good as it ever needed to be, not EVERYTHING needs to be innovated or updated

[@JoeNokers]

​​@@obsydian806I would argue a volume wheel or physical switches for AC ARE functionally better. For the volume control a wheel is just a way faster way of adjusting volume (steering wheel controls are the exception), and physical buttons are crucial in applications where you can't always look at the thing you are interacting with. Switching to on screen displays for these functions are worse for the consumer in most cases. I do get the twist knob to start is an emotional experience that you may not get from a button, but neither is strictly better than the other in terms of functionality.

[@Artofcarissa]

Being told to floor it mid turn for the Lucid is insane, especially since you’re taught in drivers ed to slow down when turning 😅

[@shApYT]

Glass is the wrong material for the back of a phone. Glass's desirable properties are being transparent and smooth. Neither of which are the properties you exploit for the back of a phone. You want something the feels nice on skin and keeps itself stuck to your skin and doesn't explode when your skin fails to mate with the surface. It also gets scratched up from dust and sand on tables.

[@ConcertoAllegro]

I remember a year ago when Google AI search originally came out via labs a year ago as Bard and the exact same issue happened. They rushed it out because of BingGpt and Chatgpt and it was very behind everyone else by far. That was even a discussion on this podcast. It's deja vu

[@RetrogradeScene]

The thing I find crazy about the Google AI search results is they’re currently making a number of large deals with news organisations to use their content in results. Which will mean they pay the organisations when their content is “regenerated”. So in a business model where people used to pay Google to appear at the top of results now Google is paying them.

[@tomanicodin]

57:35 The producer got the joke. Probably Ellis. Good job man :)

[@thesaralkumar]

3:17 they also created a blue 2a for India exclusively. That one looks good. Same blue as the camera bump.

[@MyVanced-pq2tc]

Hammer drill and impact drivers are opposite things. A hammer drill does the motion that was described at the end of the video, it 'punches' the wall as it drills and is used for drilling into brick etc. An impact driver is used for things requiring strength in the conical motion (mostly nuts, bolts, screws etc) and will hammer it laterally when it needs torque. Think of hitting a wrench with a hammer to loosen a tight nut.

[@rosetheblackcat]

Marques is the type of guy who throws his nothing phone 2a special edition into the laundry with his colorful clothes

[@simplevoicereviewssvr6418]

I had 2001 Saturn L200 and it's traction control, abs, body control module all didn't work so I had nothing, and that car taught me so much when I was teenager for car control and driving input.

[@TheAmazingchapin]

I love the fact that the porcelain angels reference from the flashgitz animation was mention

[@shaunbee]

The way the buzzer sounds with earbuds in makes me look around thinking the sound came from my environment. Every damn time😂

[@Macabee_chanukkah]

Thanks a lot for this podcast, and HUGE thx for having timestamps so I can go to what I'm interested in Keep it up!

[@mattcarter4690]

The drill looked to have a masonry bit in it. it is common to drill holes in brick or concrete with a hammer drill.

[@Manganellia1]

My issue was more than Ellis called it an "Impact Driver" instead of a hammer drill. That's what got me confused

[@JulianSollenskog]

didn't expect a Say Anything mention, i like it

[@Zack-dw5op]

Also plastic is lighter which is a big benefit when you drop your phone on your face

[@Randomsae]

Speaking of Spotify, there's a playlist some guy made that updates daily that contains random songs. It's completely randomized and updates daily. Its a ton of tracks that I don't feel like counting. Lol Random Songs by glenn mcdonald. Enjoy.

[@naveenreddykarri]

I want a 3hr waveform episode just on cars between david and miles .

[@kawishraj3558]

I was listening to this episode while on work worrying about my assignments and my assignment topic turned out to be issues regarding deployment of LLM models as a research and learning tool in an Educational Institution.

[@maybmb_]

The casual "Dr Brownlee" got me 😅

[@midnight_yota]

Also I think Marques forgot to mention with the battery depending on where they placed it in the vehicle it can affect the cornering and weight transfer while driving. So it doesn’t slow it down but if it can make the vehicle feel heavier when turning.

[@podgornik]

I listened but tuned out the second half of this video.

[@Mr.Penguin0]

From watching just the intro, this is going to be a fun one 😆

[@tsomophuthing3797]

Looking at Andrew during the Porche section trying to remember if he switched the stove off at home😂😂😂

[@iambear.6526]

A impact driver doesn't have the same chuk as a Drill does. You can get an adapter or drill bits with a 1/4 shank on it to drill holes with an Impact Driver but holes are usually drilled with a Drill.

[@cyjanek7818]

Its funny that for people who own Porsche the one they have right now is the last one before Porsche "lost very important feature". At the same time the historical features their car lost "make sense" or are "good compromise". Something has to keep resale value high but its always the same story, more turbo models, pdk instead of manual transmission, no keyhole on the left etc - they always bought the last one before Porsche heritage was gone lol

[@ipikluninja91]

A juvenile, son of a rich builder, driving his Porsche drunk killed two people on a bike in Pune, India.

[@GaborTheFisher]

I believe the original widow-maker was the first turbo charged Porsche 911 (930), introduced in 1975.

[@robster7787]

Replacing the left hand turn ignition with a push button is an insult to Porsche’s heritage in their history of racing in Le-Man. It was literally a way to start the engine faster when running to the car at the start of the race. The digital gauge cluster will just make the car essentially obsolete in the next 10 years when OLED is the default in all cars.