Tri-Folds and Orion Glasses: Welcome to the Future?

[@milwehttam]

Brb… finding some dishes to do

[@just_mdd4]

Real talk! 🤣🤣🤣

[@rinnegone377]

Glad this is the top comment not generic wallpaper stuff

[@milwehttam]

@@rinnegone377had to put the good vibes out there 🫡

[@just_mdd4]

@@milwehttam The good vibes must be maintained! 😌

[@just_mdd4]

@@rinnegone377 Same! 🤝

[@hughhaynerproductions]

Was listening to the audio version, but had to switch to see that tri-fold phone. What a crazy piece of tech.

[@Waveform]

Sorry yeah we tried but it's hard to describe that thing just for audio

[@PhaythGaming]

@@Waveform Feels like less a bad description and more just incredibly cool technology.

[@rinnegone377]

​@@Waveform Hey you got huawei's chapter wrong, it's said xiaomi

[@GaneshPalraj1991]

@@Waveform It's not weird tech , more like cool tech. Man i really like your videos but why do you guys always put down things from china.

[@Pistagen]

same

[@gr3yeyes]

Unironically preferred the energy of this episode; felt super casual. Perhaps due to sleep deprivation lol

[@clairesilvermoon]

agree!!!!!!

[@aledwilliams1234]

Perhaps due to the fact that they finally addressed the Panels concerns, where ever since that happened this seemed to have a very different energy.

[@txl17]

The joy that Ellis feels knowing we are only a few hinges away from Crumple Phone being a reality is infectious. His dreams are coming true.

[@ellisrovin]

We will have crumple phone before FSD

[@whiteboyswag69]

What does crumple phone mean?

[@soundsonic2754]

@@ellisrovinwe will have crumple phone before roadster 2

[@Kwezi_42]

14:47 Adam’s “You’re doing great sweetie” as Marques unfolds the last screen 😅😅😅

[@fashionFuse]

then someone had to scream like a girl after that🤣 i had my doubts because of their articulations at one point, but it is true🤦‍♂ they are pipers

[@hiddendrifts]

@@fashionFuse the screaming was a sound effect lmao

[@keco185]

A “fold” is a section. It comes from old English “fald” meaning “stable” or “animal pen/stall”. It’s called a bi-fold because it has 2 sections or “stalls”. Similarly there’s the saying “x has increased by 2-fold” meaning it has doubled as in there are two folds/stalls for each original fold/stall

[@badactor9063]

Shouldn't "increased by 2-fold" mean it's now 3x the original since the "increase" was "2-fold"? (As opposed to "increased *to* two-fold)

[@keco185]

@@badactor9063 it’s a multiplicative term. You started with 1 then multiplied by 2

[@anubhavsachan88]

​@@keco185so 3x then? A 2 fold increase is just 200 percent increase or just 3x (of original x ofc)

[@DrSpaceman42]

@@anubhavsachan88 2-fold increase is actually 100% not 200.

[@DarriusTaylor]

​@@DrSpaceman42nah, a 1 fold increase is 100%. A 2 fold increase is 200%.

[@mrjacobws]

I read it as The Onion Glasses thinking they’d sarcastically narrate what’s in front of you

[@Adamlukas]

Omg now I want this to be real 😂

[@DrSpaceman42]

I'd buy that

[@dfllifuran]

FYI, the Mate XT comes with a protective cover which has a stand on the back and holds the phone on any direction.

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

This comment, im surprised because it comes in the box so its weird to overlook

[@SumayyahA99]

Thanks for telling David to watch The Wild Robot again

[@SpaceDoodle2008]

That's ridiculous that he's rewatching it - maybe we're going to get a video about the movie from him?

[@צינצילה]

Free Israel from Palestine. 🇮🇱❤️🇮🇱❤️🇮🇱

[@markrico5096]

@@SpaceDoodle2008its sarcasm bro.

[@parthiv7084]

Adam and Ellis sitting in the big boy seats

[@Adamlukas]

Dream come true 🎉

[@reallybro00]

They are better in every way.

[@mattjgraham]

It’s finally the weekend guys! Birthday weekend for me! 39 tomorrow. 😮🎉. But we start with the Waveform as always!! ❤

[@Waveform]

Happy birthday!! Enjoy the weekend 🎂

[@julesm1434]

Happy birthday!! 🥳

[@Nick97107]

Same here! Happy birthday man 🎉

[@zsoltkobol]

Yo Happy Birthday 🎂 I’m turning 34 tomorrow

[@Jaiksana]

Happy birthday 🎂

[@TechSpaceCowboy]

It’s called a trifold because it folds into three sections. When you bisect something you don’t cut it twice you cut it into two items.

[@loganrussell48]

Some words have the prefix mean the quantity of the root word. Such as triangle. There are 3 angles. And that’s where I think the confusion arises. Sometimes it’s the quantity of the root, sometimes it’s the quantity of something contextually related to the root. A trifold poster board doesn’t have 3 folds in the same way that a triangle has 3 angles.

[@sfisosg7904]

This episode was like if the whole crew had taken brownies and then started the podcast😂😂😂😂

[@Adamlukas]

Not wrong 😅

[@kindofanmol]

why so?

[@Adamlukas]

@@kindofanmol everyone was super tired and hadn't slept in like a day

[@ckf36]

29:38 Ellis: I think…. Hi😊 *waves*

[@Daudran]

Molly, the day after.

[@Loukoumakias]

I wish I could watch The Wild Robot over and over in the theater. I love this movie.

[@soberanisfam1323]

Dam is it that good? Gotta go see it

[@ChaseMckeelRealtor]

@@soberanisfam1323it is I just saw it tonight and it was fantastic

[@kenbee1957]

I did Three times

[@aliciafrappantbas]

The trifold looks incredible

[@adam-k]

That tri-fold looks crazy thin when unfolded.

[@man_shooo]

One of the supervisors in our publically funded computational neuroscience lab actually left to join Meta AI to work on these EMG wrist bands. He visited us back after a few months to give us glimpse into what he has been doing at Meta. He told us that it is super hard to personalise these bands for a given user and that it takes several hours of data for both the user AND the model to learn to do more complicated gestures accurately. These complicated gestures include for example, typing on a keyboard, handwriting etc.. The problem is that having enough data for the given user is the only bottleneck they keep hitting for this wrist band. So having say a short calibration session when a customer buys the product would probably not be enough. So I am guessing that a accurately working wrist band tech is quite faaaar away.

[@just_mdd4]

I have successfully delayed the dishes until now! 😌🕺🕺🕺 In other, arguably more important news, progress has been made on my iPhone 16 3D models! 🗿💯 I am also conceptifying the 16 Mini and 16 Pro Mini. If all goes well and my laptop doesn't explode whilst rendering it in Blender EEVEE, they shall be revealed to the world! 👏🙌

[@Andrei5656]

Absolutely love hearing Adam and Ellis more. I love *this* specific hosts composition. More of this.

[@shaymcgee9148]

Agreed!

[@sho_k1]

* Milton Hurricane reaches coast of the Florida * Mkbhd: So I've been under water for a week now...

[@shaymcgee9148]

23:20 Marques palming this tri fold phone like it’s normal sized 🤣

[@rompastompa23]

The energy this episode felt way better, just friends talking about stuff they all like. Might be the sleep deprivation

[@SOLITAIREcRICKETER]

5 watches is minimum times david would need to watch the robot and understand it completely

[@Techna_SA]

That Tri Fold Looks so Cool ❤

[@Afy-uz4fo]

For a first generation product that huawei tri fold is incredible

[@auroragb]

30:38 Andrew looks so much like Zuckerberg here lol

[@LTech255]

So much resemblance 😅

[@secksworker]

David has broken me; I can now only listen to youtube videos at 2x speed since he mentioned it several weeks ago (except for this podcast, don't worry Ellis)

[@Techna_SA]

Man's One Handling that Trifold Like It's Normal 😂

[@thomashartmann5625]

That trifold phone better come with HuaweiCare+++++ because that thing is gonna break like crazy

[@quarelay2486]

Snowflake is breaking for sure!

[@angryfk]

Whenever Ellis wears white or anything with blue his eyes just be like 🔵👃🔵

[@alimurtaza31]

Adam’s question about bi/tri-fold is a common point of confusion in printed stuff too, so I’ll try explaining: Traditionally, the prefix part (bi/tri) refers to the number of distinct sections to a brochure, newspaper etc., with the word fold then indicating how the sections are divided. But you can also have bi and tri-panel designs that have 2 or 3 distinct sections, but on the same side. These could be sections divided by a line or similar design element. So you could have a bi-fold brochure where the front page is tri-panel.

[@CR_Reardon]

I hope in a year or two Orion can work for someone who has a scratched left cornea with 40% of the left eyelid stitched shut. I'm 20/20 in the right eye.

[@mattcy6591]

57:24 It really is inevitable. We already have a compute puck in our pocket which is our phone. The compute puck they are using now is just a stand-in

[@NDSOart]

51:42 Andrew has become self-aware

[@jaizo_]

arcminutes is used for space stuff constantly so if you're involved with astronomy stuff at all you use that measurement a lot, like the moon's angular diameter from us is ~31 arcminutes

[@DE0BIZONE]

when ellis and marques were talking about the fleet of humanoid robots when you google i robot, i had to look it up too and literally cackled so loud. you're not wrong!

[@joka5345]

I didn't even know about the epic win. And I follow news all day 😂😂

[@gattie999]

I want to thank Adam for clearly holding up the tri-fold in front of the camera and comparing it directly to another existing phone.

[@ricfwolff]

I think the Orion glasses could have a "cheaper" version without the AR sensors and pinning and stuff and just projecting a square in front of you, but keeping that magic bracelet. Then you mimic the cell phone usage without tilting the head down, nor holding it. For me, that's already some magic!

[@ricfwolff]

And increases battery life for reducing all the sensors... By the way, speaking of battery, these companies should bring back that chain that old people used in their glasses when they put it to rest held behind the neck. Could be a power cord connected to a pendulum like battery that goes in our back... 🤔

[@mommyofceos]

The entire time Andrew is holding and flipping and closing the phone. I'm just holding my breath 😂

[@Manganellia1]

I almost snapped it accidentally 😬

[@omeysalvi]

We need a follow up to the wordpress situation. It is getting crazier and crazier every day.

[@midnight_yota]

I'm sure we'll get one after David has done his Wild Robot duty 😂

[@GNAUT115]

I used to hate David, but now he is my favorite member of the cast.

[@NoahBaker-g3j]

OG hosts are back for the pod today!

[@VivekSingh-vh7rz]

There are lot of cheap and really good tech happening in India. Specially when it comes to keyboard looking ant you Andrew. You guys will love it

[@gsullivan]

"the amazon app store is FIRE"... "STICK over there"... these are prime reasons why this podcast is the best

[@TewodrosWondimu]

Love all the work ya'll are doing

[@superpowerdragon]

interesting fact, the huawei mate xt has over 6 million preorders, the demand was so high that some scalpers managed to sell it at over 30k usd

[@cpatp]

Then the rest who couldn't lose money as the reseller market collapsed into its own footprint because the phone is trash and breaks easily since you can't make a proper case for it.

[@superpowerdragon]

@@cpatp surprisingly, its still doing pretty good, the resell value has gone down but they still sell at about 1k - 2k premium, not that bad i would say.

[@JIEHU-d6n]

@@cpatp trash? break? everyone knows that it gives big screen and it's stable. you even have not used it, why can you evaluate it like this？maybe you can't afford it, hhhhh.

[@sayedim]

The point of the mate xt is that it allows you to use all 3 of the displays at once. Has no one else understood this?! Samsung fold and the pixel fold and the other similar ones, all of them technically have 3 displays too, but allows you to 2 at most.

[@Diablo22967]

17:11 The way to describe the tri-fold is an Huawei Mate XS & XS2 combined, outward and inward folding capabilities. With Huawei and HONOR (using the blueprint of Huawei obviously) making their folds "true to size" and still thinner than Samsung is one of the reasons why I couldn't move to the US full time.

[@midnight_yota]

imagine coming back to your robotaxi and finding scratches all over the quarter panel from the snake charging arm missing 😂

[@WPPatriot]

Relating to the tri-fold/bi-fold discussion: According to Merriam-Webster, the word (that is, the noun) "fold" applies to both the crease that is created when folding as well as the two parts which are "doubled or laid over another part." To be a bit more explicit and give an example: When you fold (verb) a piece of paper, you are creating a fold (noun, the crease) in the paper that divides two folds (noun, the parts created by the act) of paper. So if you fold a phone twice, you get two folds (as in crease), but also three folds (as in parts). So in the case of the Mate XT, there's a case to be made for both looking at it as a "bi-fold" and a "tri-fold". If your alignment is chaotic evil, there is even an argument to be made for "penta-fold".

[@hangsu6261]

I can already see Orion Glasses being super useful build in mass/personal transportation windshield or in Lab as research platform.

[@jippee1]

Are there any video discussions mkbhd has put out about panels app? Do they discuss it any podcasts?

[@swagpapi7203]

He made a video about it on his main channel

[@Papasot]

This podcast keeps me fit every week

[@DrXJ]

Mooooommm.. the kids are playing with that trifold again 😂😂

[@valeryt1997]

the only podcast i will watch through. ty for the great content.

[@JosephHerzog]

Question for the next scenes from a Hat/Ama episode if there ever is one: (In honor of that tri-fold work of art from Huawei) By what year is it unacceptable for Apple to not be making/selling a foldable iPhone? Follow up: if you had to predict, would apples first foldable be flip style, Fold style, or they debut both at the same event?

[@LzFiGuimaraes]

That Mercez concept unlocked so many memories

[@bukhariauwal]

I’m here five minutes after posting ❤

[@adammorgan1083]

When is the Internet Shaquille x Waveform pod coming!?!?

[@champagneaustiDPT]

EMG, it is very real and used in the medical field for patients who need studies on their muscles to determine nerve damage or compromise 🙂 I’ve used it when planning patient plan of care programs it is very useful for determining the extent of damage internally 😌 Edit: I thought I’d add I’m a Doctor of Physical Therapy, so clinical doctor who works with this about as regularly as I watch Waveform 🤝

[@Adamlukas]

This is awesome thank you for the comment!

[@skygaz3r]

This is so interesting, wow! Thanks for sharing!

[@CHPandVentures]

NGL while they are a bit thicker, I’m surprised no one has compared them to Tony Stark’s EDITH glasses. The blue lens and semi-rainbow effect that happens over the lenses when you’re viewing/requesting info. If they get it to that point form factor wise and maybe even Glass comes back I might very well be interested because, while they’re cool the Meta Ray-Bans are not the most practical thing in terms of functionality (IMO as a daily glasses wearer)

[@askylx4548]

While Samsung is soo busy mocking Apple... Huawei be like : On your left

[@TheTl33]

Hoping to hear about Ellis trying out some premium hammers. 😅 I’ve been waiting for this episode for that specific reason.

[@Dampealx7]

"you're doing great sweetie" 😂

[@taylorbarringer]

Excited to be able to scroll through the comments again

[@vstrvcvrtv]

Marques so seriously confusing leopard and cheetah is pretty hilarious. He is human after all.

[@quincyadeiza]

The Best Podcast for 2024!!!

[@somtoonubogu]

51:20 Adam casually describing the devices from black mirror 🙃🙂

[@sarim4]

marques predicted the tesla event perfectly

[@vetlenateland]

Is there any way for you to sync/connect the video version of the podcast (KZbin) to the audio version of the podcast (Apple podcast, Spotify, pocketcast etc.)? As an audio listener, who often has to go to KZbin and find the specific moment I want to watch, this would be a really nice feature.

[@bamhammer]

I wonder if the wrist input device stops working if you add some random changes to your hand... For example, wearing a ring. Or when you have a minor sprain in one of your fingers, that may affect the electrical pulses to the device because there's more blood flow. I assume recalibration would be the simple fix, but it's something to think about.

[@siddharthanburajan4754]

Drink omelette is the “underrated Andrew joke” of this episode 😂

[@dayocom]

The “fold” is the section. The part you are referring to as a fold is actually a “crease.” A bi-fold has 2 folds and 1 crease. A tri-fold has 3 folds and 2 creases.

[@smashbro5]

You know what, I think I could get behind a tri-fold phone, especially if they were to have similar dimensions as this Huawei one. They look more like a true tablet when unfolded and could more feasibly be a laptop replacement than current bi-folds (which would offset the cost).

[@TechSpaceCowboy]

We’re calling them KZbin shorts Pro Max

[@Jixell]

The concern i see with the trifold phone is that the front is the plastic screen and always exposed. And there's not really a good way to put a screen protector on it

[@DroopyPenguin95]

Regarding battery swaps, NIO already does this and has a couple of swapping stations in Norway. It works fine from what I gather

[@muhannadfaisal4052]

Finally marquis is reviewing the Huawei mate xt ❤

[@henrismith7472]

The quest 3 was ruined by the bad passthrough (I know it improved over time apparently), and the lack of eye tracking. Moving windows around with nothing but clunky hand tracking is a pain. Simply adding eye tracking like the PSVR2 has would've improved the experience so much. I've pre-ordered a Visor 4k because it's the first product that actually delivers (hopefully) on all of my must haves.

[@SterlingSanders]

@WVFRM Podcast "Tri-Fold" and "Bi-Fold," do not remark on the number of folds, but on the number of sides that results. You're thinking about it wrong. It's not counting folds, it's counting sides. English *sings "the more you know!"* A fold is a process/action not a result, there less important than resulting panels/sides.

[@yashmishra2412]

Petition to make all podcasts from now to be sleep deprived.

[@yveslauwereyns6677]

While I agree with the “beginning of smartphone for VR”, I think this isn’t really solving a problem that people have necessarily. For example the first iPhone was a phone iPod and computer (haha) in one. So it solved something by combining different devices people used daily. At this point I’m struggling to see what “problem” VR solves, since I don’t suddenly want to start wearing glasses to do all the things my phone does at least as good.

[@abigailsinclair-parker6798]

This is so relaxing

[@lilmichael212]

Hands down two of the coolest products from this year

[@ChipsCST]

I actually have a challenge for you, Marques, and I think it would be perfect for a 3-minute-long Shorts: taking questions from the comment section and answering them. But really I just want your opinion on this, since I'm kinda currently itching to hop back on the Android side of life and I did a little shopping around Best Buy: What is the Best Android Budget phone.... UNDER 200$ currently?

[@zyork24]

Wow the last time I was this early my wife was very disapointed

[@kencult]

Whoever did this @27:44 Thank you

[@RackalackDinner]

I don’t think the prefix in bi-fold and tri-fold are counting the number of folds. I believe the prefix is referencing how many components there are in the “fold device.” The prefix is prefixing the entire term not just the word “fold” ie a bi-fold wallet is a folding wallet with two sections.

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Cool! Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

[@FT90_30]

35:38 Apple did before with the wireless chaging mat. They shown in presentation but didn’t make it !!

[@IanZainea1990]

34:29 i dont think VR glasses will has the same trajectory as smart phones. For two reasons: 1) smart phones are fundamentally easier. Figuring out how to deal with all the issues of reflections and optical clarity and resolution and such is a huge problem. None of that really existed with smart phones. And touch based input had existed since at least the 80s, so it had 30 years of decelopment before the iPhone popularized it for personal devices. And 2) people arent going to flock to VR like they did the smart phone. Even if it was perfect. I just dont think people want to be that connected and that immersed in virtual-ness

[@alborzdesign]

Boxfish is surprisingly one of the most hydrodynamic fish. that's the exact reason why the Mercedes F600 bionic was inspired by it. (which then lead to the Mercedes R class)

[@ClickbaitMotorsports]

Right on time. 😎👍

[@carlseiler]

Looking forward to this pod.

[@dawnious]

Just a sec, I'm looking for a recipe to cook

[@charleslaferriere2282]

I guess we call that an Pamphlet because it can have an unlimited amount of panels of paper. You want to give pamphlets but you dont know how big its gonna be yet. Your pamphlet might be a biphlet or a triphlet but it will still be pamphlet no matter what. The art equivalent would be a polyptych, a triptych is a polyptych but a polyptych is not necesarily a triptych

[@shawnsowers4063]

Ellis should stay in the big boy chair

[@utubekullanicisi]

Please make videos about Chinese phones from the likes of Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, and lastly this tri-foldable from Huawei. I don't care if they are "too much work" for you or not a lot of people will watch it or they're not sold in the US or "the software is janky". They're technologically very cool and often the first adopter of new technologies such as new camera sensors and you HAVE to cover them if you count yourself a true tech nerd.

[@robster7787]

Anyone else has the video version of the podcast going but still treats its like its audio? I’m more of a PiP podcast listener.