Don’t Boo Krause!!!

Jerry Krause Deserves As Much RESPECT As Michael Jordan according to Gilbert Arenas as he and the Gil's Arena Crew react to Chicago Bulls fans booing Jerry Krause this weekend before they give Krause his much deserved respect for building the NBA's most dominant dynasty.
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[@TheOuttaPocketVarietyShow]

"Looking at how Jordan picked players in Charlotte, Krause was smarter" I can't lie, that's a hell of a point lmaooo But I think the fans didn't realize his wife was there until it was too late.

[@JOHoms98]

That's true but wizard and charlotte markets are not appealin for most players, if you wanna trade, most player dont wanna go there dont care bout moneyz

[@TheOuttaPocketVarietyShow]

@@JOHoms98 Jordan wouldn't be blamed for players wanting to go elsewhere once their rookie deal is up. We're only talking his draft picks. He only got Kemba and LaMelo right. Everyone else was a bust or just not the right choice.

[@jopinscott1777]

Mic (Mike) drop.😂

[@abluminberg]

Explain how good the Bulls were the next 5 years after he broke the Bulls up?

[@jamesorsby7553]

@@abluminberg Lol...They stunk! I had been on the Bulls partial season ticket waiting list forever. I got a call after the second season after the break up, saying that they were happy to inform me that my wait was up, and I could purchase the tickets. Obviously... I declined the offer.

[@River3ify]

The guy has been gone, may he rest in peace and the wife who has nothing to do with these things was booed by these disrespectful fans. My heart hurts for the lady. Im so mad watching the clip. It's been years, we have to move on.

[@goodjobb24]

The wife should of prepared for the boos. I'm pretty sure she knew about all the times hes gotten boo'd when he was alive.

[@Markdizzledazzle100]

Your heart hurts for the lady? Did your heart hurt when she was at the mall spending the money Michael Jordan generated!

[@schuylersavage276]

@@Markdizzledazzle100YO STOP. This. Hold up. Idk if you are literally a gang banger in DC or some shit, and you have been hardened in a way that’s not your fault, but if you can’t resonate and connect in your literal soul/heart to why someone would feel for a woman’s husband being booed in front to her after he’s passed, you SERIOUSLY need to check yourself out. Look into that. It’s not good for you I promise I promise I promise. Feel free to take a shot at me back if you need to, but I hope you can somehow connect to your heart because it’s really important. There is no objective way that it’s not sad for a woman to hear her husband be booed in front of her face.

[@dancingbabybins]

​@@Markdizzledazzle100you understand that this guy could have spent his career in Utah or he could have been a gm for Seattle and maybe the supersonics never leave, instead he worked for Chicago, possibly the crappiest organization in the league before he got there and would have stayed in the dumpster if he didn't

[@trumoomoo]

@@Markdizzledazzle100 She's spending the money her husband earned by doing his job well the bulls have six rings to prove that and all sports aside you don't boo an elderly widow over basketball thats basic human decency you do not have to cheer but don't boo her.

[@Sankedoc76]

They outta pocket for booing no matter how you felt he was a part of those 6 rings this society has lost respect for humanity

[@younglove3362]

😆 lol Okay, we're supposed to give passes because someone is dead? Cry me a river, he's nobody to me. I don't know him and he don't know me. I don't care that he's dead. Get over yourself and your PC moral high ground bs!

[@wickednice5730]

@@younglove3362i mean its scummy cause they booed the elderly woman

[@aalokshah8655]

bulls fan here. lot of people feel like he could have brought it back another year. MJ also didn’t like how krause tried to take a lot of credit for their championships (to him too much). But Krause was a big part of the bulls success and deserves to be honored as such

[@caldwmc]

There's no 6 rings without krause

[@davidgaskins2589]

U can't even hoop shut up

[@jeremiahmiller4640]

Possibly 7

[@improbuslotus]

Theres no rings without Jordan or Phil for that matter.....

[@s0Lstar18]

There’s no rings without MJ bronsexual

[@AP11634]

😂

[@berlingray8058]

Jerry does deserve more respect for helping put the teams together, however he was being really petty by breaking the team bc he didn't like Phil Jackson anymore. Like MJ said, if we're not performing at a championship level then you have the right to break up the team but let that be proven on the court, don't take that opportunity away from us bc you don't like our coach. Jerry got caught up thinking he was equivalent to a player plus a coach, when all he does is help pick players and cuts checks. I'm sure MJ doesn't hate him he just hated that Jerry wanted to break up that organization out of spite.

[@dusk6159]

But that's the correct part that everybody knows, and puts forward to the extreme (the very extreme, that booing put distaste on the whole dynasty era instead of just being violence on one man, what a wreck instead of being an occasion of luster). The other correct part that needs to be taken into account as well, so Krause and his work, and the credit he should get for that, is either unknown or buried compared to the weight of MJ's reasons (and MJ's pull) during the controversies on the late part of it all.

[@Youboremenow]

I think there was a sb nation video about the beef between them. I don't think jordan was completely innocent in the beef from memory.

[@berlingray8058]

@@Youboremenow Yes Jordan made short/fat jokes about him in front of other people but Jerry was laughing along with them. Like I said before, Jerry thought that he was equivalent to a player/coach when he should have just kept it business and not tried to be buddy buddy or like one of the guys with the players. He wasn’t an athlete so he didn’t know anything about the comradeship between players and coaches. He made himself a target by trying to be on their level.

[@ValyrianPrince]

Still tho.. he dead n gone

[@YungGroveBoss]

No1 booed Kobe for trying to get traded and break up the lakers, snitching on Shaq prior and getting Shaq moved out of LA lol I’m trolling

[@blueland9770]

You guys forget about HORACE GRANT, he is a Dennis Rodman of the 1st 3peats, and play for over 7 season for the Bulls.

[@tiismuna]

They forgot how he created a better team that led to another 3 peat. They just did not believe his next vision. Now they are harvesting it.

[@JeLifeCoach]

Pump the brakes my guy. he averaged 10/9/2.5 for his finals career in 26 games. Role player. That was it.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

​​@@JeLifeCoachNow look up Rodman averages. Grant and Rodman are both role players. Incapable of carrying a team

[@UrbanLovesDaLakersbaby]

@@JeLifeCoach Why do y'all run to stats to prove a point? That era each player had a role.. Harper came over averaging 20 plus in Cleveland..he was told to focus on defense, which he did.. that team was given strategic roles by Phil. Jordan and Phil made that team. Not Krause

[@moses8910]

I wonder if MJ has more respect for Krause now after losing so much as owner of the Hornets ?

[@anonymoususer1824]

Nah his ego is astronomical.

[@btruthful163]

No. The thing with MJ is that he’s not afraid to fail. He’s not worried about what people are saying. That’s why he doesn’t have social media, he doesn’t do too many interviews anymore and he never responds to any of these debates.

[@tiismuna]

​@@btruthful163what's the connection? Bet you in MJs mind he wants to beat Jerry so bad. But did not even do good.

[@jcc3333]

​@@tiismunahell nah

[@laterrydorsey303]

Jordan hasn't lost as an owner. He sold for way more than he bought for...

[@rock_oclock]

BJ teaching a masterclass in how to get through an entire segment without saying a word.

[@thashittv2885]

Cause he don't know shit 😂

[@QuestionEverything562]

As per usual. BJ is like that Asian girl mannequin with the helmet on the Whatever Podcast.

[@kawhi-theking_of_the_north3536]

Thats better than ranting or interrupting without actually knowing anything. This is what I like about BJ, he speaks when he has an input then he chills when others are cooking.

[@dusk6159]

In this era where everybody values talking when there's nothing to say, sure...

[@rock_oclock]

@@kawhi-theking_of_the_north3536 Yeah I could almost hear the crickets in his head

[@badrockxxx]

I like how some people in these comments are saying "well if Krause hadn't broken up the team before they proved they could still go..." But everyone seems to leave out the part of where the OWNER wanted Krause to cut salary. The owner wanted Krause to move on from Phil Jackson. Everyone keeps putting this on Krause, but no one is highlighting the part Reinsdorf had to play in all of this.

[@Jukeboxster]

yep, I think it's remarkable how Jerry Reinsdorf has no culpability on him with regard to the bulls dynasty being dismantled. He's THE OWNER, but Reinsdorf left Jerry Krause holding the bag and people bought it and are still buying it to this day, when the truth is he could've stepped in at any time and hired a GM to keep it all together, if that's what he really wanted.

[@anthonyrios7424]

So true! Reinsdorf was a notorious cheapskate ... Lol

[@AlienAteIt.MyNoraTees]

to be honest, this is the first time me hearing of this. and i bet many dont know this as well.

[@blachubear]

THANK YOU MY BROTHER!!!! If people really paid attention what was going on, Jerry Krause was really doing Jerry Reinsdorf's dirty work or became his moth piece. Reinsdorf made Krause the bad guy while Reinsdorf is still living here in Chicago with no problems.

[@Nobodycaresacademy]

You say that like we don’t have smoke for Jerry ass too 😂😂😂

[@badxgrass]

7:58 Gil asked "was winning the championship fun for MJ?" We all know damn well winning meant too fucking much for MJ. His psychotic competitiveness will push him forward even if he's neck deep in shit. To MJ, it was never about having fun...it was always about winning, whatever it takes.

[@inefekt]

Yes....and so it is for every other successful professional sports person....maybe that's why Arenas never had any success.

[@terrelld.558]

Josiah calling thay mam wife the wurk is beyond disrespectful. He was getting out of pocket with the comments this episode

[@mypeople1stwilliam]

RIP to Jerry Krause. I wish it didn’t go down like that. I remember when the feud was happening. It was tough as a Bulls fan. However, all that was 26 years ago. I think it was because of the recent lack of success. We were spoiled in the 90’s.

[@theALMIGHTY987]

Did u hear Kenyon Martin saying it was wrong because of Krause wife but didn't he say "F" George Karl 🤔.......what a/b his wife & kids 😐??

[@younglove3362]

Spoiled in the 90's? Y'all Spoiled now 🙄. Who is shocked that Krause is being booed? Jordan fans are delusional.

[@marianchicago4002]

The triangle had many features, it was designed to space the floor and move the ball, in those days you couldn't play zone defense, so it allow Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc to go one and one with defenders, bulls only needed good and smart center or power forward but not dominant one to run it. Now I have read stories that Krause, Phil Jackson and Tex Winter always speculated with each other at how the offense would look like with a dominant center like Shaq, David Robinson, etc. I think Jerry Krause knew he missed a trick and he knew it, he should had signed Shaq as a free agent, traded Pippen, (he did not look good or like playing with dominant bigs in Houston and standing in the corner waiting for 3's), traded Longley, possibly traded Rodman to make the money work, Longley was paid good, Rodman got paid good after the 72-10 season, someone else could had renegotiated Pippens contract after they traded for him, the resentment would had been much less, Kukoc would move into the starting lineup to offer spacing, shooting and assists, Krause would have gotten shooters, defenders and big bodies to round up that team, that team could win next 5 titles.

[@dmvbawse4265]

I’d agree but they didn’t even have to go Shaq if he wasn’t available Alonso mourning would have been a good fit too. But yes they missed out on using the triangle offense with a dominant big.

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

Teams ran zone in the 80s-90s. Bulls weren't the 1st or only team running the triangle offense.

[@martinmackye9865]

Without him there's no tex winter... there's no Phil Jackson ....There's no pippen.

[@tyrellwilliams317]

An ultimately there’s NOTHING without MJ! Krause was jealous of his own success bc he wasn’t getting recognition so fuck Krause! May he RIP tho 🙏🏾

[@MikeyDunksMusic]

...no Johnny Bach, Kukoc, Rodman, Harp, Horace, Bill, BJ, Pax, Hodges, Kerr, Caffey, King, Dele/Williams, Luc, nobody.

[@ronniekregar3482]

Lol, and ironically we wouldn't know a single one of those names if it wasn't for Jordan. The Bulls went as Jordan went, there's no way around that.......def not defending Jordan on the Krause thing though, that booing shit was so messed up.

[@JasJudge530]

The Last Dance succeeded at what its purpose was looking back. Making everyone other than Jordan look bad, regardless of their contributions to his success

[@berlingray8058]

That documentary was not made to make people look bad. If anything it more so showed that MJ was human. Everything else in that documentary had already been public knowledge but no one ever heard MJs perspective.

[@iampioneer81]

Exactly. I stopped watching after the second episode when he dry snitched on his teammates. MJ laughed and giggled while the director called his 84 teammates "a traveling cocaine circus". That was a major red flag to me and showed what the documentary was going to be about.

[@chrismyco7950]

@@iampioneer81 everyone kind of knew that cocaine was everywhere in the 80s

[@stringer2295]

@@berlingray8058stop being a fan, everybody besides Mike looked terrible in that doc

[@berlingray8058]

@@stringer2295 How did it not make MJ look terrible when he talked about his altercation with Steve Kerr/His Gambling/His Father’s Death etc etc

[@gamechanger114]

They booed Krause because in "The Last Dance" MJ made Krause out to be the bad guy. All people would've known Krause for leading the Bulls to their 6 championships, and all the MJ stans channeled their anger towards him. That's like 30 yrs from now Curry saying Bob Myers is the reason the reason the Warriors didn't win anymore championships. I mean rn we all know he's one of the biggest reasons they won & had a little dynasty going on. But 30-35 years from now, if Curry decides illude & portray him as the bad guy then most of his stans are going to hate Bob Myers.

[@Royalwar0305]

Facts they don’t wanna drag Jordan in it like it’s not his fans doing that shit… man Jordan’s perception of Krause made that happen

[@_extra_851]

I’m ngl that’s not really true,some kids sure but most people didn’t even like him in real time.The mf was getting booed back in 97’ , he was getting booed at championship events.The fans ain’t liked him for 30 years.The documentary changed the minds of kids😂.

[@inefekt]

The man said he owned MJ like he was his slave. You try saying that to a black man and see what response you get. Yeah....bet you didn't know about that little nugget of information, right? A bit of context helps but LeBron stans will do their very best to suppress that context if it makes MJ not look like a bad guy. Tell what LeBron would do if Jeanie Buss told him to shut his mouth and do as he is told because he is her property? The twitterverse would explode...

[@joebuss8835]

The people of Chicago hated Krause for wanting to end the only winning culture our city has ever had in pro sports. It's that simple. Has nothing to do with the last dance and it's Definitely not Mjs fault...you kidding me. You people are complete morons....

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

Krause was being booed in Chicago in the 90s. You Jordan haters are delusional.

[@benjaminpadilla4857]

If Krause let Jordan picked the players the Bulls would be like the Charlotte Hornets.

[@katrinaandreaperez1018]

jordan in charllote is just real estate in my opinion.. there's no need to win chips anymore..the goal of his is just own a basketball team.

[@sumnahlennon5449]

The Jerry Krause Bulls post Jordan were WORSE than the Charlotte Hornets. Much, much worse so your argument is no good. Its a matter of luck things lined up as well as they did in the Jordan era. 1991-1993 Pippen was trying to leave because he disliked Jerry Krause. That would of harmed the Bulls greatly. Bulls would of needed to have another bad season to get lucky and draft Shaq. But that would require luck

[@solavibe8037]

Good thing Krause didn’t listen to MJ building the team because we’ve seen how Jordan is as a GM

[@katrinaandreaperez1018]

jordan is not gm is a team owner.he let the gm do the work and dont care what happen,just he let the gm do the work.

[@joebuss8835]

There was nothing to listen to seeing how MJ never asked Krause for a damn thing. Get educated before making stupid comments

[@sideshowbobsaget8876]

Jordan didn't have a Jordan to build around.

[@Nobodycaresacademy]

You must not know the bulls was the worst franchise after MJ left. They had top 3 picks for the next 3 years 😂

[@tiismuna]

Do great all your life, One mistake your labelled bad. They forgot he built this city from. Gave the keys to Phil, drafted pieces, traded players to get that first 3 peat team. When MJ left.... Made moves and got new key pieces to still stay competitive without MJ. Then sealed the greatest team ever assembled whem MJ returned. He could have created something if they didn't blackballed him. Felt bad for his wife.

[@sjaykay9884]

Calling that dead man’s wife “the work” for giggles is nasty.

[@ericwilliams460]

Thank the "LAST DANCE" for that.......

[@ronniekregar3482]

Yyyyyyup. Bet you the ones booing weren't even alive in the 90s to see the Bulls play. Shit is ALL the last dance

[@ButchCrassidy]

Fans don't give a shit about front office employees until they screw up. That's just how it is. Yeah, he built the team. He also essentially tore it down. As a Bulls fan who has been waiting 20+ years for the team to be a legit contender again, I get the disdain for Krause although I wouldn't have booed him.

[@Scottdvz]

I'm a Knicks fan, so you can imagine how bad I wanted us to beat the Bulls, but as a basketball fan, they were amazing to watch and I couldn't believe he was breaking that team up.

[@sidjones16]

He's part of the reason that the team is relevant as a franchise almost 30 yrs later. We don't talk about Jordan the same if he doesn't put the right pieces around him.

[@ButchCrassidy]

@@sidjones16 We don't but at the same time, MJ was already a legit superstar before he sniffed winning a title.

[@ronniekregar3482]

​@@ScottdvzBro, what kind of a Knicks fan are you??lol... That's literally the only reason we made the finals in 99. It's not a coincidence that both years we made the finals that decade just happened to be the both years Jordan retired lol

[@ronniekregar3482]

​@@KwameKimokoyeah, but the 6-0 is what puts Jordan on a literal untouchable level. Jordan would have still been Jordan sure, but it's the mystique that separates him from everyone else. That simply does not happen in any other situation.

[@MGPCycling]

This is silly. Krause was booed for a number of reasons that had nothing to do with the good work he accomplished as GM of the Bulls. - He tore down the most impactful dynasty in modern sports history for no other reason than his own personal ego, to prove that he could win titles without Michael Jordan. This is well documented and an incontrovertible fact. He was PILLORIED in Chicago for two straight seasons (1997 and 1998) because of the media firestorm that he and Reinsdorf were going to break up the Bulls while they were still winning titles. - Coming out and saying "Players don't win championships, organizations do" was also an ego-driven statement which pissed everyone off. Of course organizations draft and trade and so on, but as we've seen every year, if the players don't show up and deliver, the organization looks idiotic. It's the players who make the organization look "brilliant" for the moves they make, or make them look "stupid" when they don't deliver the results. See the Pelicans with Zion Williamson when people were openly questioning if Ja should've gone #1 (before the whole guns stuff), the Bulls only a year after they brought in Demar Derozan, Portland when Scoot Henderson has looked terrible this season, etc - He drafted Pippen, Horace Grant, BJ Armstrong, elevated Phil Jackson and Tex Winter from nobodies into the head coach and part of the coaching staff, traded for Dennis Rodman and Bill Cartwright, signed Toni Kukoc, brought in Steve Kerr, Ron Harper, Luc Longley, and more. He did a TON of work that panned out well for the Bulls before and during their title runs. But let's be realistic. Without Jordan, the Bulls also never won anything despite Krause's attempts. Which means it really is the players that ultimately deliver. Krause's problem wasn't his talent as a GM. It was that his ego and quest for recognition made him tear down the good thing while it was rolling along. Him tearing down that dynasty and then failing to build it up to anything remotely competitive is why the fans hated him then and continued to hate him years afterward. The Last Dance highlighted what has been a truth since the 90s. That his widow was booed was sad, but honestly if you're even the slightest bit aware of Bulls history it's also not surprising. If Krause had built up another winner, he wouldn't be reviled in Chicago. It's no different than LeBron being hated in Cleveland after "The Decision" and only having that stain absolved when he came back and won the chip in 2016. Krause never got another chip, and never even got close. That's why, and for no other reason.

[@OxygenC2]

Well tbf Krause DID get near a ship one year without MJ, cmon now.

[@MGPCycling]

@@OxygenC2 no they didn't. They lost in the ecf semis. Not even the ecf finals or the NBA finals

[@OxygenC2]

@@MGPCycling they lost on a controversial call. If they got swept then I agree with you but series could've gone both ways.

[@MGPCycling]

@@OxygenC2 that was one game, game 5..they lost in 7

[@OxygenC2]

@@MGPCycling Bulls had the momentum until that bogus call. It's not weird for one simple blown whistle to cost a team their entire season.

[@toetheline1591]

That's why the Chicago Bulls will remain cursed for 100 years.

[@UnknownFilipino]

Excellent point by Gilbert Arenas about referencing to how Jordan handled the hornets.

[@TravisAndrews-lb1kk]

He did help da chicago bulls win 6 championchip rings

[@goodbrotha]

“Special work” is crazy

[@coreybanks4943]

Michael jordan, jackson, tyson ….80’s / 90’s woulda went the same way without their mentors/ coaches. They’re greats. 1 of 1’s.

[@Roadrunner0077]

Facts people remember him braking the dynasty up but dont give him credit for whaat he built.....jerry top 3 GM all time

[@Scottdvz]

He got lucky when he put those teams together. If he was such a great GM, he would have put together another winning team. The fans know this as well, and they blame him for it.

[@jordanross8561]

@@Scottdvzfam you don’t just get lucky accomplishing the stuff they did y’all just be chatting

[@punszu]

So how come he couldn't build a team that could win more than 30 games without MJ?

[@johnalba4406]

@@punszuwhere was Jordan losing they need each other

[@Roadrunner0077]

@@punszu same reason why Jordan baseball career sucked that's why he came back so fast

[@PacsMental]

The man is no longer with us, so its rather off to go after a guy who cant defend himself. But we do have to say this, he did do his job and there is no Bulls Dynasty without Krause. The breakup was just god ugly and it shows that the fans still have feelings about it today. My take is let the man rest in peace and its been over 20 years, lets just celebrate the good times. It dont gotta be negative and Pippen had probably the most hatred for Krause out of them all, he still found a way to move on, so the fans can too.

[@rickcistrunk2208]

What's there to defend, he gave the Bulls a chance to win a championship 8 straight year's Michael Jordan retired for 2 of them.

[@dcomputers]

Its crazy how they still hate Krause even when he is gone. You have to do go before you gone

[@christianescarpe6406]

that's the last dance

[@AlienAteIt.MyNoraTees]

not only that. its just a game. the man is dead.

[@dcomputers]

@AlienAteIt.MyNoraTees I guess people want to forever punish him even tho he is gone. Kinda like a criminal serve time but never really forgiven to the world.

[@anthonymiddlebrooks-fs5gc]

Jordan is one person that can bite the hand that feed him n get away wit it smdh

[@quincytidwell5019]

Thank you gil i always ask people who was phil as a coach before the bulls

[@carlsagan2607]

Hate who you want. Whether it’s logical or rational, however, in front of that dead man’s wife that was incredibly classless. Those people are better than that. I’m sure the ones booing are still good people, however, I just thought that was wrong. She had nothing to do with that feud what so ever.

[@dololobo8242]

somebody gotta tell K Mart that elephants have good memories 😂😂😂

[@lewistee1]

He dismantled the Bulls to have a trash team 5 straight years until he resigned. 13-37, 17-65, 15-67,21-61, 27-50 resigns, he assembled that bullshit as well.

[@jonshaqqir4575]

Who cares, 6 chips.

[@darnarxz]

Still built a dynasty. Also might be the only chips Chicago ever wins.

[@urbannuance5151]

Right Krause is the greatest GM of ALL TIME. Hes not more important than Jordan, but he put together some hell of pieces around Jordan to help him succeed. Jordan doesn't have those rings without Krause' Basketball genius.

[@inefekt]

lol basketball genius....are you serious? A child could put a team around Jordan and win championships. The only thing Krause did was have the sense to draft Jordan when he had the chance.....everything else that happened after was essentially just a product of letting Jordan develop and become an unstoppable force.....because when you have that level of player all you need to do is get yourself an All Star or two, like ANY AS level player and you will win championships. It's not rocket science and Krause is certainly not a genius, in any way shape or form, for being lucky to have Jordan on his team.

[@wes0112]

idc what chicago thinks, love or hate him, he's also one of the reason how bulls team became a legend he's also part of how the team builds up and that part is a fact anyone can't argue with it.

[@crowowlraven9971]

They booing the man that's responsible for all they success 😂😂

[@Dmoney-hz8qk]

If he was alive and rich it wouldnt be such a bad deal, but they boo'd his widow, that is uncalled for.

[@jeffsweeney6171]

You would assume MJ would gain more respect for Krause, as he had a taste of how hard ownership was.

[@loomtasticrainbowloom1305]

MJ fans See's him as a God liked figured. What ever MJ said goes while MJ is cashing in

[@DaFactsNoNonsense1713]

Gil, you DO NOT HAVE A CLUE what it FEELS LIKE to "WIN" or have FANS who LOVE WINNING = STOP pretending like you know EVERYTHING, when you don't know ANYTHING

[@merrickjackson1623]

People still believe Jordan won 6 rings all by himself😂😂😂😂. But all the talent on those teams. He win without them?

[@lilmark7210]

talent

[@thisnewnamesystemisdumb]

Without the rest of his team he would've continued to lose in the 1st rd. He needed more help than people are willing to admit.

[@kingcook1485]

And Im a Bulls fan, chi town was definitely out of pocket for this...No 🧢 RIP Bulls Godfather Mr.Krause!!!!🫡💯

[@rjc9537]

The last dance doc destroyed any chance of Krause ever getting any love in Chicago. 🤷🏽

[@joeymanny]

People did just forgot that the main guy wants this to be blown out is Jerry Reinsdorf, Just watch how MJ reacts in the last episode when reinsdorf admitted it because he wants to rebuild at that time which is stupid

[@blachubear]

BINGO!!!! It was easy to made Jerry Krause the bad guy while Jerry Reinsdorf was really the bad cop.

[@adrianknight1406]

The bulls should've had the opportunity to defend their championship! No doubt about it. That's what Michael was upset about. If someone beats us then dismantle the team, but Krause did it himself beforehand. That part infuriated Bulls fans like myself and likely many others..

[@conchobar]

I was living in the Chicago area at the time, and Bulls fans were furious. Have they won a Championship since?

[@adrianknight1406]

To be honest it's been a bad omen since then. That team should've been afforded the right to defend what they earned. Mgmt had to know that parading Krause's widow out their would garner the reaction we saw. I don't believe the booing was fair but I don't believe things would've been this bad had she not been white.

[@dparks2856]

MJ could have tried it without Phil

[@adrianknight1406]

But why? Why would you decide to play without the people that gave you so much team success. That's counterproductive. I know that I wouldn't. I have a successful formula with others then I'm going to decide to go away from that is player suicide in my opinion. Jordan wanted a shot at ring #7 and should've been given that right. Then hey if they lose then break them up but that never happened.

[@tiismuna]

​@@adrianknight1406 This karma is for not believing the vision of Jerry. Jerry Krause is a proven GM.

[@ewil6x]

This is sad this just shows you how delusional mj fans are! They go out of their way to give him all the credit for them 6 rings. When he never won one without phil or Pip. What a shame and as usual mj said nothing!!!

[@thelight3547]

How you know what fans booed him? Phil and Scottie hated him too. Y’all just haters and mj dikk smokers . Lecramp fans

[@juandufree4309]

The person who drafted Jordan gets some credit because clearly the Blazers GM didn’t pull that trigger. The person who drafted Pippen gets credit, to have the guts draft a kid from Central Arkansas. The guy who signed Phil Jackson gets some credit because Phil had no proven success prior to the Bulls. Who is that Guy? Jerry Krause Not all credit, but cmon

[@dlrichardson56]

So they not going to blame Jordan?? He's the reason why people don't like Jerry

[@Greego]

Jordan specifically said in an interview I saw years ago that he never tried to influence personnel decision for the Bulls. He said he left all those type of decisions up to the executives. And his jpg was to try to win with that team on the court. Who do you think was the main executive bringing in all the talent for the Bulls to win those championships in the 90s? Now, I am sure MJ had some input but the man admitted it himself.

[@SinzuSage]

Any GM that tells a top 3 coach of all time “if you win all 82 games, I’m still going to fire you” means even your soul will be cooked into oblivion by the fans for a long time.

[@andrewcook1246]

Thats the same gm that got him his job and players to win 6 rings. You can't laugh at jokes aimed at your boss and not expect to get fired acter he put you in a dream job.

[@SinzuSage]

@@andrewcook1246 that emotional decision cost Jerry way more than it cost Phil because he lost Jordan too. Afterwards Phil went to 7 finals and won 5 more rings with a Jordan copy….Jerry’s bulls have only made it to one ECF in 25yrs. Doesn’t seem like it was worth it to me.

[@turnupthesun81]

Look at Dallas. Cowboy fans are still mad (myself included) that Jerry Jones couldn’t coexist with Jimmy.

[@Christian-ir3sg]

At some point, mj is partly responsible of that. He spent almost all his career insulting Krause, even in public, in front of cameras,in the bus... We all saw what happen when Mj pick players. All the titles mj got, it was with the players krause picked. Mj,even at his hall of fame speech, couldn’t help but make fun of him. Cherry on the cake, the "last dance", it seemed like all the team's problems came from Krause, even though he had built this team. He has been dead for a long time now, he was no longer there to defend himself. It was too easy to put everything on him. This is a part of the documentary that i didn’t appreciate. It’s Mj, as he made millions of people dream, we forgive him everything, even though we know perfectly well tha humanly he was a scoundrel. I felt sorry for Mrs Krause, she didn’t deserve that.

[@ChrisCash720]

People act like scottie didnt wanna trade

[@deshaunblocker1323]

"booty shorts and boots"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MrBmick79]

Krause deserved to get booed.Reinsdorf too

[@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu]

The owner yes the GM no. Remember the gm does what the owner wants him to do, so if the owner told him to break the team up not much him can do.

[@blachubear]

@@AlexanderRodriguez-nc8yu BINGO!!!!

[@alvin081988]

Such a shame the Last Dance made Krause look like a Villain after making the right decision to make the Bulls a Champion in the 90s.

[@Jaison96]

Why the Bulls fell? Ego. MJ, Krause, Phil, Scottie, Rodman…..all of their Egos lead to the downfall

[@ARCANExx]

Thanks to y’all now I’m fully educated in the situation and I did see sum in the last dance . It’s understandable to not like his decisions but the fact that he’s dead and his poor wife was crying from the boos is crazy🤦🏽‍♂️

[@amgmtwak]

Stop saying Mike asked for players Krause Pip and Phil say that he didn’t idk why Gil be making 💩 up

[@dancingbabybins]

Would have been classy if Krause's widow had dropped everything and walked straight off the court and out the building. Can't even celebrate the life of guy who brought the only success that Chicago ever had.

[@dusk6159]

KMart is very reasonable, after all it wasn't a surprise Could've been nice to see MJ and Pippen honoured together though

[@mr.q.4786]

I think Krause deserves credit for what he did to help build a winning franchise but let's not also forget he tore it down too. The Last Dance clearly stated how Krause didn't care how they finished. They could go 82-0. It was it for them. He never let them have the opportunity to win or lose again. Most sport franchises don't break up winning teams. They either replace the pieces and keep the core to sustain winning, or the team starts to lose, and the rebuilding starts. This team was still winning. Plus, Krause had that Belichick philosophy and wanted to win a championship without his star player. Never happened for either one. The front office can help put together a winning team but it's the coaches and players who actually go out and execute and win. That like performing your job at optimal performance for 5 years and your manager decides to rotate you that job for someone else to see if they can duplicate your performance. I think had Krause actually achieved winning more championships without Michael that would have helped. The classic worker vs. management clash.

[@ronniekregar3482]

Lemme ask you this, what if Jordan played another year and lost? We'd be having a whoooole different conversation on his legacy. His entire god like mystique never becomes what it is today.l if that happened

[@mr.q.4786]

@ronniekregar3482 That's an interesting point to ponder. However, some think that already because of when he came back to play for the Wizaeds. Despite him still being a top ten scorer, getting double teamed and showing glimpses of prime MJ.

[@ronniekregar3482]

@@mr.q.4786 yeah, I hear what you're saying. Me personally, I don't think the Bulls had anything to gain from going another year, but they had a lot to lose. I don't think Jordan is viewed any different at 7-0, but at 6-1 it feel like a whole different story lol. He should honestly be thanking Krause for that lol

[@mr.q.4786]

@ronniekregar3482 I feel your point. I think going out undefeated in the Finals is dope. I think Krause wanted to prove a point. Sometimes, owners get caught up in their own hype once they had success and think they can duplicate it with just anyone. I think this is what happened here. Granted he put the right pieces together on the team, they executed. I think had he given more respect to the players and what they achieved it might not have been so much bad blood between him and Mike. IMO

[@ronniekregar3482]

@@mr.q.4786 yeah man. Watching the Bulls destroy everyone in basketball, including my Knicks, was a big part of my childhood lol. I would have loved to have a Jerry Krause lol. Booing his wife man, that was so messed up...holding a grudge all these years makes Jordan look like a pretty shitty human being.

[@kingsworld2220]

It just shows how dumb and insensitive people are. The man organized the entire team that won. Had MJ got his way, there would be no Phil and no Scottie. MJ treated the man like crap and that led to some poor decisions, but he deserves his respect from Bulls fans.

[@MartzieTV]

Bulls Fan took an L for that, disrespectful as hell, especially in front of his wife and hes passed

[@cnothegoat23]

How the hell was the triangle designed to keep it out of his hands and he has the highest average points in regular and playoff history?

[@Royalwar0305]

USE TO HAVE THE MOST POINTS IN REGULAR SEASON AND PLAYOFFS he got passed a long time

[@darnarxz]

Uhh yeah, cause he called his own number a lot. You think players just always run the offense?

[@cnothegoat23]

@@darnarxz tf you talking about? Of course they do. Harden, Lebron and Westbrook ran a gimme the ball and yall stay at the three point line and wait for me to pass. You serious?

[@Rumble225-qe7fy]

Bulls we’re never knocked off they were defending champions they had Damn good chance of winning in 1999. Jerry blew the team up for his own ego. He will see consequences for this forever. He was trying to rip apart team for years that’s why Mike hated him and shot insults at him constantly. Mike knew they had a winning formula and he didn’t want to mess with that.

[@Markdizzledazzle100]

You guys are BOGUS for this take.

[@Hail2daChief]

That’s Mike fault for how the last dance was presented

[@shontalewatson5624]

The 2nd worst management decision in American sports history next to the Joe Montana decision. Jerry was cover by Jerry.

[@anthonyrios7424]

Blame the Last Dance documentary. Jordan could've taken the high road and gave him his flowers on that but he chose to stay petty as usual. Funny thing is Jordan never goes back to Chicago and didn't show up for the ceremony but fans still cheer him ... lol

[@xdabeast6002]

People can boo whoever they want. Now all of a sudden, fans aren't able to express themselves? The same people STILL spending money on tickets? Foh I guess customers aint right no more, even if they are spending their money?

[@fledgendbeats4581]

The triangle was designed for player movement and Phil Jackson was the one that made Jordan understand he needed his teammates to win....but let's be clear the ball was mostly in Jordans hands in the triangle

[@GoodFellah_22]

As a lifelong Bulls fan I agree 1000%‼️

[@PlayaflyJoe27]

As a lifetime Bulls fan, I agree with the booing

[@soccerdude601]

These people aren't Bulls fans so they don't understand the hate for Krause.

[@darnarxz]

​@@soccerdude601lmao i hope y'all get more GarPax types in the organization and continue to fail. Y'all are gonna stay losers until y'all get that hate out your hearts.

[@greedy8711]

@@soccerdude601 sounds like people with too much time on their hands. smh

[@The_real_shoota4]

We ain’t like his ass even when we was winning

[@useyourthirdeye9083]

Tex Winter is wild. I didn't realize he was a Krause guy. I always thought Phil bought him in.

[@liquiiiddd]

This is all because of the doc.. Jerry Krause may have been petty, had some character flaws, etc but you can't deny that he put together arguably the best team ever around Jordan. So classless to boo a dead man with his wife there. Bulls deserve to be irrelevant for another 20 years just for that

[@Donato-yt1ju]

Jerry Krause retired in 2003, so he had 4 years to put a contender. Krause’s record after 98 was: 1999-00 17-65; 2000-01 15-67; 2001-02 21-61; 2002-03 30-52

[@andrewcook1246]

Jordan had a few years before Krause and couldn't even go over .500. Then he had 20 years as an owner and the team never made a 2nd round. No Krause and Mike retires with 0 rings as the most decorated loser in sports.

[@emiliovgc507]

Yeah tends to happen when the player you built the team around leaves and actively tells other players not to go to said organization, literally just because he wanted to be a bitch about the situation that they had to deal with, Jordan is the one who quit, nobody else. Simple. Jordan the biggest bitch in basketball.

[@rajkaranvirk7525]

Most rebuilds take way longer than 4 years. Pretty much everyone left after 98. You have to understand that

[@andrewcook1246]

@@rajkaranvirk7525 Krause was gonna trade older post back injury scottie for pre injury Gran Hill and Jordan nixed the trade.

[@slikron8536]

I think Jerry took the blame for what the owner really was behind .

[@blachubear]

BINGO!!!!

[@slikron8536]

@@blachubear I give Jerry credit for those six 6 rings along with Phil and Mike , he drafted Pippen , Grant , scouted Toni and signed Rodman .

[@SaurabhSingh-zr2tw]

jordan was the worst owner in the nba for years. He should put some respect on Krause's name for winning him 6 rings. Krause drafted pippen and Kukoch, Traded Oakley to promote Grant and Cartwright. He got Paxson, Kerr, Rodman and promoted Phil who s the greatest coach of all times. If Jay will hadn't broken his leg in the bike accident people would consider him one of the greats.

[@gregjaidee1491]

Fans have every right to boo if they want. Who pays the ticket prices to see the games? Players need to stop crying when fans don't react how they want them to. Krause broke that team up when he said he wasn't going to bring back Phil Jackson. That team could of won 2 more rings for sure.

[@vendetta3061]

Sports icons are immortalized, even in infamy and villainy.

[@vamoneygroup]

These are lies. Krause was not good and his picks were terrible. People say he pick Pippen. That's one pick from over 10.

[@djlune]

Just like Gilbert said, they were booing at the graphics, not at her

[@coreythomas3633]

There no rings without krause

[@AverageVideoGameJoe]

The booing just shows the complete lack of empathy most folks have over what is ultimately a game nowadays.

[@WiseNow97]

This is why i fucc with Gil, he doesnt lie & succ off Jordan like everybody else to keep in the mix. Just straight facts💯

[@lhermanus9524]

The memory of an elephant, Mr KMart is impeccable. They do not forget. Perhaps you mean the memory of an ant or something like that.

[@goodjobb24]

We pick and choose when its okay to boo isee.

[@Undrafted4]

Imagine if Lebron said, I dont want to play and I will retire if the managament doesnt sign this coach. Imagine the backlash.

[@AshTan6]

Jordan documentary ☠️

[@depannist]

The triangle was NOT designed to keep the ball out of Jordan’s hands. It was designed to get everybody else involved. Two very different things.

[@arrowvvd]

Same things

[@tiismuna]

😂 it's basically similar in every word

[@laterrydorsey303]

No it's not. You see who the primary scorer was. It was designed to lessen his usage rate, is a better way of phrasing it. Gil got a really weird obsession with hating Jordan. It's kinda annoying..

[@Alleyne070707]

It's something that doesn't get talked about enough, the narritives are dumped on the players, ultimate winners or ultimate losers, when a lot of the blame should be left at the F.O. Krause was as competitive as Jordan and the made the Bulls winners.

[@SearVEVO]

This just makes me think, Donovan Mitchell, Book, Luka, and Harden would work great in a triangle offense.

[@gigalonupe]

If Krause was so smart why didn’t he duplicate any success after Jordan? Gill bruh, you ain’t deep my guy. The success of that team rests with the vast majority being with 23. Sorry that doesn’t fit the LeSteroid clutch bag narrative “right” 🙄

[@The_real_shoota4]

It wasn’t just about Mike.. I’m 33 and remember Jerry being snotty and rude .. we went to events hosted by Chicago bulls and he was never liked

[@dusk6159]

Leave it to the host guy to be disrespectful and loud when there's a man like Rodman who, besides his things and showings, still had a very deep and important HOF speech (and reckoning, with auto-critical minutes useful for others) and collective moment, for example. Hell, Gilbert saved his life for getting his ass in the show. Worse display than McCants or the Bulls fans. Mike Botticello would never be that distasteful and gratuitously arrogant

[@bradpote2446]

Krause helped Jordans legacy. He would have lost at some point. Jordan went out at the ultimate winner. Thanks to Krause decision.

[@tmi890]

Don’t boo his work 🤣🤣🤣