'Don't give up on American democracy' after Trump's re-election, says Bob Woodward | 7.30

[@ph_low628]

He hasn’t changed in 78 years. He won’t change now. Please do not give him the benefit of the doubt.

[@Enlight_Entertain]

It's like toxic relationship hoping for change :D

[@swaminic]

Agreed.

[@Team33Team33]

Well said. And it's a simple FACT.

[@michaelhermiston]

his narcissistic nature makes him easily manipulated and the surrounding sycophants have a definite right wing and xenophobic agenda; that combination definitely precludes Donny changing in a positive way.

[@timloo6191]

Haaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiya

[@aslkdfjhg]

No sorry i disagree, I don't think he'll change. All of this is his identity.

[@dannii_L]

Trump just received the biggest psychological reinforcement for all his recent behaviour over the last 8 years and you think that suddenly and in complete contrast to that reward he'll find a moral compass?

[@sheffrudytke1086]

He can literally do whatever he wants. No can literally stop him. He literally tried to over throw an election. Did not care if his own VP got hung. Stole classfied documents. Yet were elected him to have unlimited power

[@NurseHancockAndFamily]

Exactly! 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@rsm609]

I get the feeling that Woodward is already eyeing an interview with trump and wanting to keep the door open with him. Trump will not change. If anything, he will be way worse.

[@wisu3529]

Sorry Bob, that’s the end of America. Nixon was a Boy Scout compared to Trump.

[@wlhansen2068]

Exactly, it's dark times ahead

[@DrRomaioi]

He wants to fleece the country and not go to jail.

[@viscountslappy5085]

This is actually the best outcome we can hope for. That all Trump's bluster about deportations and military tribunals was BS and he just wants to be in power to stay out of prison and line his pockets.

[@andrewcampsie4285]

I'm Australian America should be ashamed of it self .

[@Omanjefferson]

Half of us are.

[@alibobo2009]

It's not all of us!

[@dimsoneill]

Sorry Bob, you are totally naive. Wake up.

[@jeremybartlett1706]

Maybe he will do something… memorable. MEMORABLE??!!! Gtfoh

[@NewhamMatt]

Sadly true. He understands so much about Trump. He seems to be in denial because the alternative is either too terrible to mention or not worth mentioning; there is no hope to be found there.

[@A_Free_Spirit_]

This guy doesn't understand personality disorders.

[@wisu3529]

And Trump’s followers are as deluded as he is.

[@annemariaosullivan2898]

He said Putin was genius when he invaded Ukraine. How UnAmerican

[@WM-jy9dz]

... the only change will be: it will be even worse!

[@jaaksavat7916]

Project 25 here I come

[@bipolarbear9917]

I think Bob is hoping Trump will see this and be coaxed into being a decent President. There’s also the possibility of Bob trying to wangle more interviews for yet another book on the 47th U.S.President. Unfortunately, it’s a lost cause. The reality is, this is a catastrophic seismic shift in the global geopolitical balance. Nothing good is going to come from this. ‘Everything Trump Touches Dies’ - Rick Wilson (former Republican)

[@alicehurst2234]

I hope not, but I do side with your commentary. Very slim chance of this ending well in my summation.

[@NewhamMatt]

Think about who the most powerful men in the world (and our region) are right now: Donald Trump - USA Narendra Modi - India Xi Jinping - China Prabowo Subianto - Indonesia Vladimir Putin - Russia We are living in interesting times.

[@gs2tab]

Optimism? Or just delusion? I've heard a number of people make similar optimistic claims about Trump somehow changing, but they really don't understand psychology.

[@taleinz1]

Time will tell . He fought hard so he wouldn’t go to jail .

[@Kuhl09]

He’s a narcissist. He can’t do what you’re saying because he only wants power, control, and money.

[@CT-vm4gf]

Exactly, being optimistic is delusional.

[@OrangeClown34]

And i will blame all the bad things that i do on the democrats, believe me

[@agentadent3655]

He's worse than just a narcissist, Trump is a full blown sociopath.

[@lynettesmith6971]

Sorry Bob, I don’t think he is capable of change, though I live in hope that he will😢

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

He didn’t even make it through the speech that Bob quoted.

[@annoyedaussie3942]

It's not really so much about whether he changes it's more a matter of is he capable of carrying through. Starting a worldwide trade war for example may not go so well for anyone.

[@gustaaf1892]

@@annoyedaussie3942 Trump is inheriting a very good economy with inflation dropping rapidly and currently down to 2.4%, record employment numbers, growing manufacturing jobs (which Trump despite his promises failed to deliver) and a record high stock market which is 60% higher than it was when Trump lost the 2020 election. He will stuff that up with his blanket tariffs policy that will increase the average household bills for families by about $4k per year. Mass deportations will have a significant impact on labour supply at a time when there is full employment. Trump is going to be the wrecking ball that will send the economy into reverse and create a recession.

[@traceyhordern222]

Bob's optimism regarding Trump does not hold true for a man in his late 70s - a man with serious mental health problems. He's clearly a malignant narcissist anyone remotely paying attention saw that years ago. It sounds like Bob is staving off Trump's desire for revenge, given Bob would be on that list. Personally, I hope those that voted for Trump feel pain - and soon. The sooner they do, the greater the chance that they realise that Trump is dangerous and they were totally conned. Trump was never the answer / solution for their problems, he clearly cares for no one but himself.

[@robertjohnston8876]

Perfectly put and also alarming.

[@alexios__]

Wow, Sarah. You let Bob sit there spouting utter falsehoods that there was no US involvement in war during Trump’s first term. Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen? Any of these ringing a bell?

[@Jasul_]

American democracy gave up on itself in dreams of cheaper petrol and eggs

[@VodShod]

funny thing is trump is going to make those prices go sky high.

[@bobthebuilder9509]

@@VodShodAnd yet those stupid people who scream “LEOPARDS ATE MY FACE” will in the same breath blame Democrats. Disgusting.

[@alanomeara9439]

If the cost of living is to decrease that’s called deflation. The cost of living will only improve if wages rise more than inflation. Trump and the GOP won’t allow that to happen. He doesn’t like to pay anyone. Hopefully in the end Trump voters will realise they’ve been conned

[@philliphogan9002]

That’s right absolutely

[@tino6846]

You are history’s losers 😂

[@swaminic]

What is Woodward talking about? Trump will give Ukraine to Putin

[@brucereinhart5076]

Sadly, Mr. Woodward has completely lost the plot. Too much wishful thinking.

[@wisu3529]

Bob is as deluded as Trump. Living in a fantasy world if he thinks Trump can change

[@philliphogan9002]

Bob Woodward is from the can we all just get along crowd sick!

[@SaschaRobitzki]

Bob is selling books. He needs to keep the door open. That's the purpose of post-election interviews.

[@robynjeucken3391]

He won't change, but he will peg it one-day, and maybe the spell will break. When he is gone, if things get too bad, people will fight for their rights again, or not. Time will tell.

[@ozhimalayan477cc2]

And then Vance is Pres OMG

[@NewhamMatt]

​@ozhimalayan477cc2 The one good thing about Trump is that his spell is non-transferable. Trumpist candidates, even when Trump himself has endorsed them, have been unable to ride his coattails (hello again Kari Lake). Vance might become president if Trump falls off the perch, but the Trumpist voters won't be ride-or-die for him the way they were for Trump.

[@geofftefl]

Sarah Ferguson is an awesome interviewer, this is a first class example of her ability.

[@markpimlott2879]

YES; Sarah was sensitive and insightful, without intruding her viewpoint into this interesting psychological investigation. Bob isn't deluded or naive about DRUMPH. He just refuses to predict a dark and dismal future! Facing such a dangerous presidential term, we all lose our power if we surrender our optimism AND RESOLVE! Surrendering to pessimism and cynicism would be a losing 📉 😕 🤔 😔 proposition! Clearly, however, he does greatly fear the worst for the USA, at least during his final years! 🇨🇦 🍁 🇺🇸 🌎 🇺🇲 🇦🇺 🪃 🇦🇺 🇺🇸 🌎 🇺🇲 🍁 🇨🇦

[@brianambrosemcmahon8531]

She is world class .

[@iainherridge6253]

No Bob, American politics is just a REALLY bad reality show NOW⁉️

[@patjohnson5586]

I wonder how long the bromance between Trump, Musk and JD is going to last, way to many egos for a cozy relationship

[@lynnoble8229]

Oh Bob Woodward, get real!

[@beerman204]

The Trump intimidation is already in effect.

[@richardlum8558]

Speeches were written for him for the occasions and I don’t believe he knew and capable to understand what he read. He will never change but good luck to Bob’s optimism.

[@Carol-db8tr]

I can't believe he has hope that trump will change

[@seanwilliams4087]

He thinks he is perfect - a very stable genius - I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for an epiphany.

[@carmenlewis2599]

Trump wants to remake this country in his own image..he is insane bob🙄

[@davidfowles]

The notion that Trump might “pivot” … are we seriously still entertaining this nonsense?

[@jeremybartlett1706]

No.

[@buzz4346]

The American people never said, "We trust you to do the right thing." They said, "We trust you will do what you said you were going to do." The difference is monumental.

[@Fomites]

I don't know how Bob can be optimistic. Trump has a proven bad record and he seems to be getting worse.

[@ChristopheSmith]

The USA has become an Oligarchy. 🇺🇲

[@Kiki-p7n4i]

People gave him a chance before. He’s declining now, not rising in his spiritual vibration. And he is now a puppet for the Heritage Foundation. I have doubts he can even fathom what an opportunity this is. He could right his horrendous legacy to be positive. I question if that’s even possible at this stage of his trajectory.

[@Omni0404]

He sounds like Olivander talking about Voldemort. "He did great things. Terrible! But great."

[@anserbauer309]

Oh please..... "even old men can grow and rise above themselves blah blah"? I'd swallow a pollywaffle in a swimming pool before I'll swallow that.

[@daydream_believer]

I don't think the KZbin comments about Bob Woodward being naive or having self-serving needs for why he is presenting a hopeful attitude about the current status of the US are accurate. He knows Trump inside & out, maybe better than anyone. Bob is speaking with a journalist from Australia. I'm guessing he's working hard at not giving the impression that the country is now a complete write off, given the US still needs to have a relationship with other countries for things like trade or other global affairs. Could be a form of diplomacy? Just a thought.

[@riotbunny]

When he talked about Trump's response to COVID, he finally started talking about Trump's true character. Most of this interview he seemed in denial about what a disaster this election result will prove to be.

[@fletcher932]

I'd agree with that.

[@2cleverxhalf]

Trump has to be sentenced yet.

[@rosediddynorelation4824]

The false hope is what keep us in this cycle of exploitation, and intermediate reinforcement. Let it fall

[@SailingObsession]

What an inciteful interview. Thank you

[@binkwillans5138]

Well spelt.

[@NewhamMatt]

​@@binkwillans5138I was going to say the same thing.

[@rickgreen9936]

A classic state of denial. No good will be coming out of trump's presidency because it's trump.

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

People are tired of the system and when you’re running against a populist you cannot be saying you can’t think of a single thing you would do differently than the status quo.

[@idamelin]

You are delusional… you give him too much credit.

[@chaosbynature]

Trump: “It’s going to be fantastic health care,” Trump said, referring to his new health care plan. “I shouldn’t say this to our great gentleman and my friend (the Prime Minister) from Australia because you have better health care than we do.”

[@user-se9ho2qw1n]

Well Bob Woodward, I hope or pray (whatever you want to call it), that you are correct. So far though, I hear in the back of my mind Leonard Cohen's prophetic song "Everybody Knows."

[@tippymarie]

Why didn't Woodward tell us what trump knew about covid?? Surely I can't be the only person who wonders about that!

[@goodguy2627]

There is a saying. "Every nation deserves its government". I cannot find a better time and a better reason to use this saying to describe the American nation nowadays. It is time for the European leaders to wake up and realize that USA has changed and probably for many decades ahead. Let the Americans deal with their own confusion and impasse. One they when they need Europe they will realize how important is to keep together and hold together against the growing imperialism around the world. Wake Europe and do what has to be done.

[@twitchell2682]

Another rich old fart confidently telling us "we'll" be fine. What complete BS.

[@JulsR1900]

🐨🌳 great interview Sarah 📕 with Bob, a great journo & author 📖✍️ congratz frm an ABC fan family in Qld 🌞🏝️🌴 🇦🇺🌏

[@hikingsounds]

I blame Woodward too. He interviewed trump years ago and beings out the information for another book to make money. Yep Bob you were really worried about democracy. Shame on you

[@cbjones2212]

He didn't have permission to publish prior to it all going through their legal and security clearances.

[@hikingsounds]

@cbjones2212 Sure. They would have had to sue me.i would have saved America. Shame on Bob. He doesn't care. He is an old white guy with plenty of money. Figure it out and don't be naive

[@hikingsounds]

@cbjones2212 trump stole documents. Do you think he cared about security?

[@dijaworldworld3895]

They got to Bob Woodard too. Because he sounds delusional. The reporter sensed it too with her last question.

[@iamfromthewild]

😂 this guy has cracked. He thinks trump might change as if were in the story how the grinch stole Christmas

[@KayleeWilson-qm8td]

Am totally disappointed in you. You should know better. If you truly believe all the things you have said in the past I feel like you've sold out those of us who love democracy.😢😢😢😢😢

[@willdon.1279]

Huge respect and admiration for Bob. I am surprised he spent so much time with TFG and retains this vestige of optimism; however, it is all we have, and maybe to stay sane, retain a tiny flame of hope we can survive? A long time since I felt so much despair. It would have been fraught enough if Kamala had won - but as Bob said, there is a superb team keeping us all OK, she would have had. I fear for any replacement, even if their priorities were not revenge. From all comments, MAGAs have learned nothing, but even more hate.

[@teinspringz]

22:30 It was all hopeful until Bob tried his best impersonation of Melania, and was promptly cut off 😂

[@rhealajoie2204]

Bob, He has no other more noble part of himself to 'rise above' to. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. His past behavior shows a consistent pattern. Yes, people, even old men can change, but ONLY if they want to. His more darker desires will triumph. I am a psychologist who worked in Corrections for 20 years. I have met many men with the same traits as Trump. Now, these traits will be unleashed.

[@monsterclass]

australia audience is thinking, wtf is 911

[@Patrish-gd3ht]

Bob Woodward:To say that trump has an "opportunity to grow" is remarkably naive - even childlike and irresponsible when stated on a channel streaming into another country. And oh yes,, he'll "do something memorable" alright, it's just not going to be anything positive or even neutral. This is such a disappointing interview, Mr. Woodward.

[@RicardoRoams]

Sorry, but after having Trump on the scene for nearly 10 years and now another 4 years in the White House, I've given up on America. The fact that so many could want such a flawed man as their President again, demonstrates that America doesn't value ethics, morals or character. Trump will never change. Woodward thought Trump was going to lose so he could say whatever he wanted about Trump, however critical, in his last book. But now that Trump unexpectantly won, Woodward is selling out in order to get on Trump's good side by suddenly saying nice things. He wants the chance for another book on Trump.

[@ChristopheSmith]

Maybe ego might push DJT to do good. " Trying to buy himself in heaven "

[@st8275]

Good ole Bobby Woodward looking like The Earl of Dorincourt from ‘Little Lord Fauntleroy’. All that is missing is his gout, lush estate, and Great Dane.

[@murrayeldred3563]

MUCH OF The West think American politics is dystopian.

[@davidwilkie9551]

Professor Hudson's analysis of humanity's civil societies is pretty clear about the relevance of national Healthcare and how to defend the health of the fighting forces in particular, by contrast with the social destruction of privatised services withholding goods and services in order to maximize profiteering practices, eg, a declaration of war automatically focuses on deficit spending and making voluntary participation of, by, for the population in general, a dominant understanding of what is survival sense-in-common, by default logic.

[@tomlund4951]

A Moral felony of the highest order… “ it is what it is”… Thanks Bob!

[@matt355]

Bob holds onto information for years and years to make a buck. He's a fraud.

[@haphappablap7684]

Pure hopium

[@mariesrodriguez8680]

Not to be negative, but are you serious?You know why he ran for office.He's tired he doesn't want to be at present.He wants to stay out of prison

[@Wintermute9366]

Poor Bob, he just sounds desperate

[@kjmav10135]

“Isn’t American Democracy something?” Well, it’s. . . . something, alright! More like “Isn’t American Democracy Fascism?”

[@budawang77]

Grasping at straws.

[@rickblasing1237]

Are we being gaslighted by Bob Woodward?

[@Abraham-uk4xy]

Woodward - Superb guy with lots of information and profound insight.

[@agentadent3655]

I've given up on my fellow American's character & morality.

[@StrangePilgrim1]

There is no cure for who Trump is. There is hope for American democracy to survive, of course, but there is no hope for Trump to be other than who he is.

[@ChicWebb]

How naive this journalist is, Only a fool could be optimistic about what Trump will do.

[@arthurross8553]

I'm assuming you don't consider yourself a fool, perhaps the opposite. It appears you just suggested you are way smarter than Elon Musk. And he seems to be pretty optimistic about the coming term. Maybe find out why he, and some senior Democrat notables (RFK, Tulsi Gabbard etc) are behind Trump. You may find that the information you have acquired so far is not the full, balanced picture. Or maybe they're fools like the other 51ish % of the Americans who voted.

[@amyrugala246]

Sorry Bob, he is not going to rise above. He is only going to get worse. We can only hope there are enough compassionate humans amongst us to help each other survive this new political landscape.

[@iainherridge6253]

Geez Bob, maybe your hayday was when you were Robert Redford!

[@WM-jy9dz]

Bob.... keep dreaming...

[@lauriepfantz6293]

DJT will be quoting pieces of this immediately.

[@ran1of16]

Was Bob just born yesterday?

[@petrathornewill1761]

Omg. Just because he is elected he gives us hope?? A few weeks ago you were warming us up his word are for nothing

[@francoisrichardsmith6595]

Coincidentally I received Woodward's book 'War' today!! Looking so forward to reading it.

[@michellewilkins2516]

sane washing Trump again .... what's going on ? soft interview ........ (they're eating the cats !)

[@creeib]

I am done with politics. 😢

[@brendan9698]

Yes, people can change, Just look at how Mitt Romney changed over time.

[@roysmith3725]

HE JUST GOT HIS GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD.

[@SaschaRobitzki]

Bob knows better, but he needs access to him for his work.

[@Dw8099]

Totally disagree with Mr. Woodward on giving Trump a chance. Are you kidding me! Just because he said something that you liked? He is a pathological liar. I don’t think I’m making that part up so believe what you will but to give this madman a chance I think is incredulous.

[@maxthemagition]

We are living through unfettered capitalism and what happened in Russia with the rise of Oligarchs will now happen to the rest of the World, indeed it has already happened in many countries. "Oligarchs are a small group of extremely wealthy individuals who wield significant political and economic power in a country. They often amass their fortunes through controversial means, such as corruption, crony capitalism, or exploitation of natural resources."

[@christopherhosking6276]

Bob is deluded

[@RomyHouston-y9v]

I was following until Woodward said…he has a lot of work to do! Does that involve golfing every day?

[@bertnijhof5413]

US Democracy R.I.P.

[@russellmaiers2781]

Name just one thing trump has not destroyed yet he has touched

[@harryrocco7591]

He’s optimistic, but Don’t think so, unfortunately

[@Zethican]

Woodward is the worst kind of historian. This man will chose a fat payout over protecting democracy 11 out of 10 times.

[@JudyBurrier-fz1uk]

He will never never change sorry!

[@deloresosborne2818]

Why did you wait until it was too late; just like everyone else who worked closely with Trump? Shame on all of you!