Mamas & Papas' John & Michelle Phillips (separately) on Bob Costas, 1990

[@ginaferracini9375]

Its 2024 now and i still listen to the mamas and the papas love them love the music 💕💖❤

[@waynej2608]

Same here. They're timeless. 👍

[@jadebel7006]

The way they just breeze past the p3d0philia

[@kit-katnews9137]

Thank you John for clearing that B S story up about Cass chocking on a ham sandwich this beautiful woman deserves way better than to be treated and lied about in her death she died because her heart stopped beating, REST IN PEACE BEAUTIFUL LADY MISS CASS ELLIOT.

[@richardjenkins8366]

Nobody that knew her could ever find a bad thing to say about her, it's so unfortunate to have a metabolism that is broken.

[@rski1036]

@@richardjenkins8366 In her case it was probably a lot more then "metabolism," since she loved to eat. Michelle said good thing coke was not around in those days; but that may have been a good thing to help Cass refrain from the food bar.

[@richardjenkins8366]

@@rski1036 I love to eat also, I happen to have a very efficient metabolism and consume many calories a day and stay at 170 lbs at 6ft 1in. I must eat constantly to maintain, my cholesterol is perfect, my blood pressure is perfect I eat a hardy breakfast of 3 eggs, 3 slices bacon and buttered toast, lunch fruit 2 sandwichs with chips and a smoothie for a snack and a Home Chef dinner meant for two people at usually 1400 cal or more everyday and I don't exercise...so there you go.

[@fishing_amy]

Her daughter Owen just cleared it up too on Chyna Phillips KZbin channel recently. Cass's PR guy put out the chocking death because of Cass's drug use

[@DH-ve5bl]

@ R Ski. I wouldn’t wish a cocaine addiction on anyone.

[@iconicshrubbery]

Letting their guests talk, no ego.Allowing pauses.The best N.Am interviewer I've ever seen.

[@vincentmagro4694]

The interveiwer is Bob Costas who is one of best EVER!!! He is a master of the sports genre but handles all subjects equally well.

[@EdWeibe]

fabulous

[@kristenchaffee4763]

I was also thinking that the interviewer was solid here-well researched and asking questions that were eliciting responses from the subject and that he wanted to talk about

[@interstategar]

Michelle wrote the 2nd verse of California Dream'n, by herself. When the song came out I totally identified with the song. I had a large paper route and froze my ass off in the winter on my bike. I brought my small transistor radio and listened to the song while freezing. Saw them for the first time on the Ed Sullivan Show. Loved them.

[@kevind1931]

Dont think thats true. Listen to John here. She just wrote what he said. No one ever said this

[@interstategar]

@@kevind1931 Wrong John was a notorious liar.

[@kevind1931]

@@interstategar Michelle has never said this. John was genius.

[@interstategar]

@@kevind1931 Michelle is not a liar. She wrote the 1st two versus. She said at first John didn't like the verse about the church, because it reminded him of the military school he went to, and he didn't like the authority over him, BUT he kept the verse she wrote. She got 50% of the publishing because she helped write the song. John wouldn't have given up any percentage just for Michelle copying down his words, according to Michelle.

[@interstategar]

@@kevind1931 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXOlaayKe7ChsJo Michelle saying she wrote the 2nd verse

[@coletrick8748]

“ they’ll know better next time” .. she’s too funny 😂 love her personality and so beautiful

[@yaterspoon57]

She is a fantastic interview. So honest. What a beauty too! Happy 80th Michelle.

[@frankbanda7285]

Thank you for posting this! Michelle Phillips is a generational beauty and smart!

[@EdWeibe]

All American 60's girl really.

[@Namronnnn45]

didn't she cheat on like 3 of her husbands?

[@thereisnospoon52]

To this day I have still not seen a better interviewer than Bob Costas

[@temeculajoe]

One of the great songwriters to come out of the 60s

[@garymiller95]

Absolutely. There are many flawed human beings who have been genius creators. We are complex creatures.

[@johna.4334]

@@mrsmacca126 Be nice.

[@gardensofthegods]

@@mrsmacca126 which person are you calling the pig ... and why ?

[@mercurialpierrot7073]

@@garymiller95 Yes, but this guy molested his daughter...nothing "complex" about that, just evil.

[@anthonyfoutch3152]

@@mercurialpierrot7073 2 ex wives who hated him and 2 of his kids say it never happened. Mackenzie craved attention and she waited for his death to come out with the story. We will never know what happened.

[@rubbersoul3723]

One of the best interview subjects ever. What an amazing woman.

[@sirloin7633]

Yuck

[@dianadundidit5343]

@@sirloin7633 jelly..

[@stuzo666]

Cass was my favourite, fun, witty, great personality, she was truly missed

[@OzmaOfOzz]

Same 😪

[@lstrusowski4170]

Cass and Denny, ya know there aren’t many who can sing a song the way that you do. But, man she could have def made it on her own! Her voice was A+ #1 in that band! On her own weight, nobody else’s, like Words of Love and It’s Getting Better. Wow! Why did she have to go so young? Think! She would have just gotten better, and God knows what songs she might have songs she may have sung, instead of Barbra Streisand, Carpenters, Carly Simon’s Anticipation, maybe, so many others. Even a Linda Rondstat….. imagine that for a second! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💿😲☺️🎶

[@fancysfolly554]

Loved her

[@jimmysapien9961]

Full of life and wanted to be totally in love but was rejected miss you rest in peace

[@GROOVYJOJO]

She always loved denny. She was an ambitious, talented woman. RIP mama cass💔💔😢

[@albertkundrat4624]

I remember listening to these Songs by The Mammas and Papas in the mid 60's when I was in Elementary school, at home, in the car drive, and in class (by memory) and these lifted me out of gloomy feelings, especially Monday Morning!

[@lovesallanimals9948]

I was listening about 10 in the 70s I want my 70s and 80s back!!!!!

[@mdwilliams79]

These are wonderful. Thank you for posting.

[@bobmilian5327]

I loved Michelle Phillips interview. So honest and transparent not to mention attractive.

[@carlpassarellirealtor2671]

Michelle was delightful and very honest in that interview.

[@geo-george2639]

I agree. I thought she was great---very honest and matter-of-fact about her past.

[@nomiddlenamenmn427]

Love interviews that are real interviews and not puff pieces with softball questions. ❤

[@LaSabrinaSabrosa]

Trevor Noah's interview of Jeanette McCurdy was an unexpected gem for me for same reason you comment.

[@janaromeo6491]

Love Michelle s honesty! I agree completely!

[@daddydad9018]

She's a phony.

[@Jackdog011]

'Guitar in one hand and a joint in the other', nice. What a beautiful and interesting lady. I have been learning a lot about the Mamas & Papas lately after a lifetime of listening to the music and it's fascinating.

[@robertyoung1777]

Both John and Michelle strike me as smart strong personalities. Not sure which one of them was the boss! They seem to have needed and loved each other. The group’s beautiful music has truth and soul.

[@alfredcardu5696]

Oh he was the boss !!!

[@brianvicich6315]

I was a kid living 26 miles south of Chicago and my Mom and I were very musically driven so she bought me my first Hi Fi record player,then went shopping and I wondered over to see what songs were on the " New Releases" list and I saw California Dreamin' and hadn't even heard it yet so I bought it for 50 cents and a few others. My Mom played keyboards and sang in the choir at school and I would take guitar lessons at 12 years old in 1968. And she looked at my Choices and she said This One is pretty good Brian, I've heard it on the radio. She was pointing at The Mammas and Pappas 45. We get in the car and as always I turned on WCFL AM radio and. .... you guessed it California Dreamin' started almost immediately. I said to Mom : I'm Gonna go to California when I get older. I've been in San Diego 75 Marine Corps. San Francisco 95 to 97. Ukiah in Mendocino County now as of May 25th 2021 at 65 years old I finally got to Los Angeles. Took me long enough, Lmfao but better late than never. I play it Every Morning and Every Night before I do anything other than use the bathroom. Thanks A Million Mammas and Pappas, I know Michelle is still here so Thank You Sooooo Much Sweetheart. Love Ya More than you Know. Respectfully Yours Brian William Anthony Vicich. Amen to That

[@anthonyfoutch3152]

John probably had a genius IQ. He got into the Naval Academy and was very brilliant.

[@me67226]

She sure has been with LOTS of men. These are just the ones we've heard about.

[@PapaAlec]

@@brianvicich6315 loved reading this😁 how lucky that you were around when they were active. And congrats on finally making it to LA, I hope you’ll be safe and warm!

[@TeachAManToAngle]

Great seeing this post. Just introduced my kids to the Mamas and the Papas last week.

[@nancymacdonald6205]

It is great music. I am grateful that much. 😌

[@jackcrane7853]

Well done! Play them FOXES AND FOSSILS, too!

[@justglenn1037]

I was very young when she was popular but I learned all their music later in life. In fact, I remember getting through Marine Corps boot camp humming "Monday, Monday" because it took me out of the doom and gloom you would associate with basic training.

[@nancymacdonald6205]

@@justglenn1037 Cool .

[@deanpd3402]

I'm thinking of introducing my kids to the Aunties and the Uncles soon.

[@Moonlight-ey5md]

finally an interview with john !! i looked all through youtube i only found one interview !

[@rhondawaller4457]

Was he the one who was having sex with his own daughter !!!!

[@patricaoreilly2143]

Great Interview Really enjoyed Thank You.

[@quadparty]

Love seeing old Laters with Bob Costasb. Looking forward to any more you have :-)

[@susanferrazzano1957]

I love they did that part and it was a mistake in I Saw Her Again it was so catchy and made you wonder.Great technique!

[@elizabethjessmore2719]

He later on admitted it was on purpose. He wrote it and Denny had to sing it.

[@TheCartmaninc]

r.i.p. johnny, denny, and the star of the group, cass elliot, still sing your songs in my head all the time ,peace

[@Sbaxter1989]

It's cool that michelle feels the same way when I hear the mamas and the papas - great.

[@ravenmasters2467]

There's something very special about Michelle Phillips. Ever since i first saw her performing California Dreamin' ive been low-key in love with her. I never knew she was in Knots Landing. I _might_ have been able to watch it just for her. But probably not. Still she's my long-lost celebrity crush!

[@britturk123]

Get in the cue, it's a long one but shortening by the year.

[@Tjordful]

She was so bad in ‘ it’s landing… almost as good as Alexis

[@John-rw2zf]

Their talent was undeniable and their personal struggles equally so. So it is for many people in life. Mistakes always come with a price and often great pain. The road we travel is the road we choose most of the time. Shattered lives are common in a broken world full of beautiful music. What you see is what you get. Never envy another person's life. You never know what they have been through to get where they are. Just buy the record and enjoy the beautiful music.

[@patface915]

Well said!! True....

[@John-rw2zf]

@@patface915 Thank you, patslouka915.

[@victoriagadd6831]

Loved this - part of my own history and certainly a seminal part of the history of music during an explosive time of talent and imagination. Both Michelle and John are incredibly likeable people not to mention immense talents. John sadly gone now but Michelle is still with us and she’s an absolute legend and wonderful funny intelligent lady. This interview is pure gold. Bob must be one of the best chat show hosts ever. He’s so natural and charming.

[@francesca1386]

Yeah and John is a dirty old man.

[@davidpeters3857]

💯

[@yourpathmatters]

The interviewer seemed really tough on Michelle like she needed to explain usage for the band and the era, but I don't remember him putting John on the spot about any of it.

[@WellKnownBee]

@@yourpathmattersthe 90s weren’t very soft on women.. lots of double standards for michelle from the 60s until even now.

[@chrisrose5740]

She is Light Years ahead of her time ! Tells it like it is !!!

[@judyivie4181]

Happy new years 2022..I just saw a photo of Michelle and I am disturbed. I cannot believe she looks like that. Her daughter should be ashamed.

[@nathanl2982]

@@judyivie4181why? Isn’t she really old

[@fabis4164]

@@judyivie4181 there’s a video on her daughter Chynna’s channel from like 4 months ago and she actually looks really pleasant

[@jamescorbett5729]

It broke John's heart to talk about Cass dying, but everyone had to ask. You can see the honest sadness in his eyes.

[@islezeus]

He made fun of her and treated her like crap.

[@mileskenyon]

@@islezeus That's why it hit him hard probably

[@krschu00]

@@islezeus at the beginning. Didn’t he grow to love her?

[@islezeus]

@@krschu00 from what I read he grew to despise her because she seemed to be the star of the group

[@krschu00]

@@islezeus gotcha. i believe that. he seemed like a narcisist.

[@curtisgonzales3857]

thank you Bob Costa.....brings back memories'! loved this group.

[@michaelrochester48]

Couple of weeks after this interview with Michelle Phillips her daughters group went to number one on the charts and had several other hits

[@judyivie4181]

China got her talent from her dad John.

[@freddytw206]

@@judyivie4181 from her mother.

[@Dzanarika1]

@@bambooprincess3495 it was annoying, I agree.

[@traceeferrell1734]

Great interview. Thank you.

[@bruceohandley2024]

46 and Michelle was still drop-dead beautiful.

[@Tracey..H]

Not anymore. Utube her

[@TnT121182]

@@Tracey..H Hmmm would love to see you at 77!

[@greyk610]

@@TnT121182 She's 77 but looks 95. It's actually pretty sad, I wasn't expecting her to look so bad.

[@kaynemccully5266]

@@greyk610 she looked great at 77! What are you talkin about?

[@greyk610]

@@kaynemccully5266 Have you seen pictures of her? She looks horrible, completely unrecognizable and gained a ton of weight.

[@ralphlizza6723]

Michelle is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. My dream of wonderful! 💘💛💚💖

[@yogaqueen1527]

She looks very different now.

[@ralphlizza6723]

@@yogaqueen1527 I know, we all look different now. Getting old is not fun but it beats the alternative. Her looks are not the same but she still has a young heart. She will live on even after she has gone. I love her still!

[@yogaqueen1527]

@@ralphlizza6723 she seems to suffer from dementia. What do you mean it beats the alternative? Lol there is no alternative. Everyone will die. Just a matter of when.

[@stevekaspar1396]

i agree

[@msands5850]

@@yogaqueen1527 has she been diagnosed with dementia? I couldn't find anything online.

[@bradenharris8718]

I'm so torn about John Phillip's. I can agree he was a phenomenal song writer%composer but... I DO believe Mackenzie Phillips and believe there really was incest. And I do believe the other tales about his debauchery... from the gross sexual things, to the treatment and abuse of his kids.. getting so fucked up that him and his 3rd wife left his son, Tamerlan, home alone and he was alone for days until Michelle and Chynna found him in the kitchen pantry, alone and covered in flour and saying it was because he was hungry.... and that's only ONE tale of the terrible shit he did while on drugs. I've tried my hardest to separate the art from the artist. I can now see that I can enjoy the music while also being aware that the person who made it was an extremely messed up and sick man. It sounds terrible but I'm happy hes gone and cant hurt anyone anymore or profit off his music and get rich (again that is. since he was broker than broke at the end). I'm okay with his family getting the money from his music currently since they're the ones who were abused by him and its really all he had to offer as a father. Like I said,torn. But I will always love California Dreamin and for him introducing Cass too the world. Although I think she would've found her own way there eventually because of her immense talent but we did get it sooner because of him so I'll give him those points and nothing else.Lol. .

[@patface915]

I feel the same....exactly....

[@tracyworley1995]

​@@patface915me too

[@nelgstuart3442]

One of the greatest harmony groups of all time, and yet the most tragic. Drugs destroyed John Phillips and his daughter, and Michelle had affairs, but she was the most beautiful creature I had ever seen, and most people felt that way, then her looks and her youth came to pass. Poor Cass passed away far too soon, & I'll never forget them.

[@johnzuijdveld9585]

Jim Anderson below says "Michelle is so devastatingly beautiful" I think you both are fantasizing! Yes she was/is a gorgeous woman, but so were/are so many musical/Hollywood or celebrities' to this day! Most women are very beautiful and for every 1 that gains notoriety there are 1,000s' that are not recognized, some do benefit from their looks but many others suffer often before their teens from ppl. wanting to make them feel w/less! Later mainly men play on their insecurities to secure sexual advantages, virtually turning them into sexual slaves, and threatening death if they might stray. When you label a woman as devastatingly (sexually) or the MOST beautiful, you condemn her to a platform she cannot possibly uphold and so you sow the seeds of her demise. Women are to be loved so do that, but don't elevate them to s/thing they can never hope to attain.

[@candymiller3304]

Well, there's more to this story. He abandoned daughter McKenzie (actress on One Day at a Time) then returned to drug her and use her need for him to make her have a 10 year sexual relationship with him. She said he lived to cross boundaries. Also he abandoned Chynna from the pop group Wilson Phillips who is now revealing all kinds of trauma here on her KZbin channel.

[@nelgstuart3442]

@@candymiller3304 😥

[@johnzuijdveld9585]

@@candymiller3304 I have heard some/thing of this and I guess if I want to have a better view of ALL this then I should see what McKenzie talks about. I wonder about her age at the time and at what age a girl/woman might reasonably be strong enough to leave an abusive/incestuous relationship. My ex was sexually abused by her dad from 9or10 to possibly 14 hard to say because she did NOT want to talk about it, but it did stop. I met her in high school when she was almost 17, we got together for 20 yrs and had 2 sons,1 daughter, I was NOT like her father! But then she left and I often wonder if she worried because of what happened to her, it still plagues me because I thought I was a really good guy. . . . so many tears. 😧 🙃

[@candymiller3304]

@@johnzuijdveld9585 Tell your wife you want to support her and you think she has unresvolved trauma that caused her to leave and you want her to try therapy or whatever she may need. Don't read about McKenzie. It is so abnormal. McKenzie was so brainwashed, desperate and drugged she thought the relationship with her dad was "consensual incest" and he was telling her he would like to marry her. One of the most abnormal abuse cases in history, nothing to teach you. I pray you and your wife can return to each other. Now that you think you know what's behind her leaving maybe that can help you begin to let her know you want to support what she needs for you to reunite. God be with you.

[@jennifersman7990]

Tricky feelings about John, great songwriter and producer. But monstrous person and lousy father to Mackenzie Phillips

[@AlexandertheGreat99]

He was a lousy father to all his kids.

[@lizziedssg8643]

My feelings exactly!! Supreme talent, sick evil perv.

[@saythankyou111]

First comment about the repulsive demon he conceded to ....freewill is everything🐍👽

[@lemurianchick]

@@saythankyou111 We don't know what happened to him. His father was in the military and lived in the basement totally nuts. MK Ultra? Free will is a tricky thing. You might sign up for something and forget that you did. We don't give compassion just to people who do things we approve of. Everyone has a story. John wrote songs that will never not move people.

[@betsybabf748]

Majority of humans deal with trauma anfd large percent have troubled parents and upbringing, but that never excuses an adult from raping children. We still have full personal responsibility for our actions. For a person to try to rationalize and excuse the rape of children shows great concern. If that was how it worked, no one would ever have responsibility for their behavior and all could freely harm, destroy and kill everyone they wanted, but life doesn't work that way.

[@homer5802]

I would love to see a biographical movie about the beginning to the end of the Mamas and the Papas.

[@kh-19636]

John was one of the greatest songwriters/ arrangers of all time. So glad he debunked the Cass heart attack myth too.

[@kh-19636]

@7 Haunted Days I meant the myth about choking on a ham sandwich, I know she died of a heart attack, I should have said that more clearly.

[@blueberrycobbler]

I think you mean the choking myth. She did indeed die of a heart related problem, the official autopsy results stated “Heart failure due to fatty myocardial degeneration due to obesity”.

[@onefoot7]

and loved raping his daughter, what a guy

[@SladeL]

John raped his own daughter.

[@richardwilliamson9763]

I find Michelle Phillips mesmerising and wonderfully charming and intelligent.

[@ravenmasters2467]

There's something very special about her. Ever since i first saw her performing California Dreamin' ive been low-key in love with her. I never knew she was in Knots Landing. I _might_ have been able to watch it just for her. But probably not. Still she's my long-lost celebrity crush!

[@Watchman-zd5cx]

I find her arrogant, lost, irresponsible, no values, no morales pure trash

[@ravenmasters2467]

@@Watchman-zd5cx I knew it... My kind of woman!!!

[@richardwilliamson9763]

@@Watchman-zd5cx Lol, anything else you would like to add to your list of grievances poppet??

[@rebeccav9969]

@@Watchman-zd5cx I agree to some of that. I really don't like her speaking for the entire musician population, across decades, that "we were doing drugs like everybody else." bull shit. Not everybody.

[@marjoriepreston6620]

Totally agree with Costas. The 60s created the drug culture that we have now. In the 30s and 40s, it was around, but underground. The 60s made it mainstream. Reap the wind, inherit the whirlwind. Isn't that what they say?

[@rbilleaud]

Ummmmm, well, that's debatable. I mean certainly less public. My great uncle was a jazz musician in the 30s and 40s and it was a pretty open thing with both musicians and every day people. I would say that it was the media that brought it out and actually glamorized it in the 60s and 70s.

[@Jantonov1]

The drug that is currently killing the most people by the hundreds of thousands are opioids. This epidemic had absolutely no ties to music. It was all drug companies and neighborhood gps.

[@VicoPrae]

She is elegant, honest, mesmerizing, smart and funny during this interview. I have nothing but admiration for this woman.

[@Claudia-xo9jo]

And messes around married man. What a classy Lady!

[@jozenisilvestretorres8807]

Honesta? Foi muito honesta com john.

[@honeybeebadger]

John was flawed but he comes over well in this interview

[@chesseking1234]

He abused his daughters. Coming off well is a specialty to manipulators and abusers

[@betsybabf748]

@@chesseking1234 Exactly. No one plays a phony role and lies better than drug addicts and child molesters. John was very trained with those skills.

[@davidkyle2073]

Flawed? You his publicist?

[@paulhardin9731]

I’ve been reading about what terrible man he was, but I found myself smiling at his stories. He’s incredibly charming, which is probably how he got away with being a predator for decades.

[@honeybeebadger]

@@davidkyle2073yes in hindsight it’s naive of me

[@BTheis]

wow I have really learned a lot of respect for these two people.. and the Mamas and Papas that I did not have before.. they both seem to be lovable people that "tell it like it is" that have earned my respect for sure.. wow beautiful people ..

[@elizabethsamways7624]

I absolutely love the mamas and the papas.

[@joycependleton589]

This was really interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[@michaelfrazia4569]

kudos to John for mentioning the other guys involved in Kokomo after Costas gave him all the credit

[@robf6105]

I noticed that too. Costas did not acknowledge the correction, however.

[@tenbroeck1958]

Michelle Phillips is awesome. I feel her interview is more genuine and less contrived. John's interview was very guarded and choreographed.

[@brentb5303]

John was obviously in the middle of a bender. I'm amazed how much they got in between his coke induced hallucinations. He's just a trash human. I don't care what songs he wrote.

[@MissPerriwinkle]

@@brentb5303 he seems stoned out of his skull here, the polanski story is not true...

[@1taylorgibson]

Interesting how Michelle interacts with the crew in this interview. Whatever she says is golden.

[@kelliep.8514]

They just don’t come creepier than John Phillips. Hell of a musician/songwriter, I gotta give him that.

[@markhadley1545]

You got that right!

[@sleddy01]

I think Michelle is creepier.

[@lkbarrett39]

Michelle didn't give her daughter drugs and have sex with her.

[@ger50champ]

What garbage some people spout. I always maintain,if someone says this about another person. It's usually the mirror effect. They guy had incredible musical talent , created some musical masterpieces, that time will never forget. Was clearly a handsome dude in his day. And for me, being kind. Perhaps the drugs had taken their toll in later life. Still part of one hell of a time to be alive .

[@rski1036]

@@sleddy01 She did not age very well.

[@anonymusum]

Michelle always appears to be very sharp, honest and intelligent and that´s what makes her even more beautiful.

[@douglasthompson9482]

Always loved the group. My favourite song forever…..California dreamin.

[@EmilyHartley25989]

I’m caught between repulsion and immense attraction towards John Phillips. Creeped out but charmed. Weird.

[@honeybunch5765]

Absolutely nothing about him is charming, he looked like a washed out junkie.

[@priscillachapman9145]

John Phillips sounds a little mushy or slurry in his speech. I don’t think he is dry here. I like the sweater and shirt.

[@shanibloome]

That’s probably how the women in his relationships felt

[@mwmingram]

This is great. Thank you.

[@carl_anderson9315]

Wow, Roman Polanski was really paranoid after Sharon’s murder. I knew at some point he blamed Bruce Lee, but I never thought he could suspect from John Phillips too.

[@gardensofthegods]

I never heard that Roman Polanski blamed Bruce Lee ... try to research it but if I don't find anything I hope you'll give a little explanation here as to why he would have thought Bruce Lee had something to do with her death .

[@markyboy214]

It was Charles Manson

[@Mikkibriteside]

When you lose a loved one in a traumatic/horrific unexpected way..I think most people end up hypervigilant and their mind is desperately trying to understand what happened..It's hard to turn off. I'm not surprised..he was trying to make sense of the unimaginable.

[@michaellazzeri2069]

RIP, John Phillips----a true genius, before drugs destroyed him. ----MJL< 76 y/o

[@beejensen]

This sounds like the basis of the movie “Once upon a time I’m Hollywood.”

[@nickdavis8881]

………..

[@richardskelly4106]

Michelle mentions being “fired” for flirting with Gene Clark as he sat in the front row of an M’s & P’s concert. The story of how she was subsequently replaced for about a month by singer-songwriter Jill Gibson is well worth searching out online.

[@robf6105]

Costas is coming off uncharacteristically ignorant and uninformed in this interview. Very blunt and unemotional while bringing up Cass's death. John Phillips loved her obviously.

[@---gl5zk]

Agreed. A bit of a clunker by Bob.

[@amyepstein4868]

You know, I lost any respect for costas when he said Cass Elliott died from choking. John stopped him from saying anything about a ham sandwich. The only reasons to watch would be Michelle and John

[@firstlast1732]

Brilliant writer for sure

[@user-nq9gz4xf7f]

I loved the Mamas and the Papas... Michelle was the beautiful hippie chick and her vocal part was flawless ..then Denny was a nice guy and great voice and good Canadian boy. John was the leader and superb songwriter. He fell into the depths very deep...but somehow he climbed out not untarnished for sure..but you can see here his engaging personality. Who wrote California Dreaming? Michelle insists she cowrote it and has a credit for it but who was the genius songwriter? 3 of them are gone and only the lovely Michelle is left.

[@PapaAlec]

John Phillips wrote everything except for the second verse which Michelle wrote

[@MoneySavingVideos]

Michelle was so beautiful but still immature in a way. Brushes off infidelity, drugs with a laugh.

[@Rjensen2]

You really seem to have issues with women being sexually active. Weird.

[@PRR5406]

Easy to be dismissive while you're wealthy and receiving royalties. Both interviews are probably close to the truth. Fascinating.

[@alfredcardu5696]

That song was John Phillips idea. Once the idea was out I am sure Michelle Phillips added some of the words. But that's easy to do once the concept is already there

[@davidr4523]

Once again drugs ruins everything. This guy had it all in the 60's and early 70's. Fame, money, hit songs, beautiful wife and talent. Then drugs come it and you lose it all.

[@classygary]

She was no angel . A proud jezebel .

[@patrickbell1277]

So unfortunately John was a man who got lost in drugs,and neglected his baby in this time period . And of course the sexual abuse of his daughter . Horrible. Comment by Bailey Bell

[@wallymann]

I opened for the Mamas & Papas at the Sierra Summer Festival in Mammoth Lakes When they were touring. Mckenzie had replaced Michelle, and Spanky McFarland had replaced Mama Cass. interesting days indeed!

[@Rjensen2]

That definitely wasn't the Mamas...

[@mikewilliams5642]

they were nothing without cass.

[@Amarti58]

"Took the meat cleaver off the wall and started chopping onions", whew what a relief for John, Roman had calmed down.

[@TheBazooms]

John did not say he wrote California Dreaming alone. He gave her half credit for it. He's dead now, so what does it matter.

[@Rjensen2]

Uh... maybe listen a little closer...😂

[@jimarmstrong5820]

Great interviews!

[@mortensenegbert6619]

For a long time I had a very limited awareness of his songwriting - just the usual hits everyone knows - until I checked out a compilation and found an amazing number of terrific songs - "Straight Shooter," "Dancing Bear," "Once Was A Time I Thought," "Did You Ever Want To Cry". He seems to have had a really self-destructive side and - if MacKenzie and not Mama Michelle is to be believed - badly damaged his children. The old story, a genius and a really flawed human being.

[@1slyangel211]

Fascinating interviews, I wanted more. John's white tube socks were blinding. John & Michelle must have had many interesting stories from the 60s/70s.

[@tinkeringinthailand8147]

I get the feeling that Michelle is not a nice character.........

[@TuedaMassa]

me 2

[@JulioCesar-mc4io]

Essa mulher permaneceu linda por décadas!

[@---gl5zk]

Interesting guy for sure, but he seemed a little impaired here.

[@riggermorpus]

John sounds like he’s had a few pre-interview.

[@bogeyman38111]

I was about to say the same thing. Also, what person in recovery can't remember exactly how long they have been sober?

[@5thdimension625]

@@bogeyman38111 one that’s not done drinking. Every sober person knows their sobriety date

[@bogeyman38111]

@@5thdimension625 That's what I thought.

[@markyboy214]

Terry Melcher was Doris Days son...the one Manson came looking for. Scary times.

[@deanpd3402]

Manson also hung out with Mama Cass as well as Neil Young. He also famously hung out with Dennis Wilson.

[@OzmaOfOzz]

@@deanpd3402 what!! He hung out with Cass???

[@richardtravers8772]

From australia. Cass Elliot had one of the best female voices in the world so sad when she left us.

[@rski1036]

She was actually just average. You want best. Listen to Whitney Houston.

[@nomiddlenamenmn427]

Love & joy to Amazingly Awesome Aussies.

[@maryheffernan2627]

Best thing to happen to mams and papas was Cass But they were mean to her (fat shaming)

[@alevine1951]

Really enjoyed that. Very ambivalent feelings about Michelle.

[@reasonrestored9116]

Focus on the one who allowed drugs to ruin his own and others lives instead of looking elsewhere because of your misogyny

[@johna.4334]

@@mrsmacca126 Chill

[@jackcrane7853]

@@mrsmacca126 you WISH she did!

[@johna.4334]

@@jackcrane7853 Whoa!

[@johna.4334]

@bruv "but what’s wrong with a confident woman?" Nothing. And when they choose me to satisfy their sexual needs then all the better.

[@brewer921]

Please post as many Laters as you want.

[@deanpd3402]

OK, later on.

[@hollyhock100]

Costa's remarks about Cass' weight? 🙄🤬 We all know what John Phillips was doing at the time (he sho looks high here too).... RIP Cass Elliot 💗

[@jc8198]

Literally like leave the woman to rest in piece. So sad that she had an amazing talent and yet all most ppl seem to talk about was her weight

[@TheDriftwoodlover]

Not only that - didn’t even do his homework to know her death was not from choking. Arrogant.

[@ralex3697]

@@jc8198 Peace

[@markyboy214]

The nerve of him to bring up the sandwich rumor 😒

[@Berniewahlbrinck]

@@jc8198 Piece?

[@stevekendrick2008]

So the obvious question was 'Why did you have an affair with Denny if you were married to John ?'. She looked quite sad and quite guilt ridden when talking about that too and the obvious fall out and affect it had on the other members of the group. Not exactly faithful was she. First Roman then Denny.

[@40aterules]

She didn't write that song" John simply dictated the words like a boss to a secretary" Yes" physically she wrote the Lyrics John dictated" and rewarded her by giving her half the writing credits.

[@honeybunch5765]

She wrote the second verse by herself and he hated it.

[@tracyworley1995]

He wasn't that nice.

[@honestjohn6222]

Beauty and brains !

[@ljubicamalbasa7497]

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[@paulnodalo9130]

The Mammas and The Pappas is la creme de la creme of Music.Up there with The Bee Gees and The Beatles.

[@leethrelfalllt]

Agreed

[@MsCocopuffy]

Absolutely

[@strawberrymilkshake2641]

I wish he never got into drugs.

[@dhart8451]

If he didn't you probably would never have heard of him.

[@lemurianchick]

@@dhart8451 What the actual fuck does that even mean?!

[@strawberrymilkshake2641]

@@dhart8451 well i meant after the hippie area.all of them took drugs but none of them expect john phillips was addicted through his entire life

[@dhart8451]

@@strawberrymilkshake2641 I'm afraid you are misinformed about the "60s. Grew up in the late 60's and drugs where being used pervasively. There were many other musicians who used and were addicted, and some died. Not many talk about it as openly as John Phillips.

[@markyboy214]

I think he means hard drugs not LSD.

[@chrisjohnson4165]

He had a premonition about the murders, obviously. I have 2 or 3 every year, usually about babies being born in my family. It just shows how complicated the world is.

[@nomiddlenamenmn427]

That is very cool. Cherish your gift. Love & joy.

[@NEALPUCCISWEDEN]

CASS. SHE WAS A GREAT SINGER WE LOST HER TO EARLY IN LIFE

[@SigmaStoicGemini]

I graduated HS in 90, when this aired, and I remember watching it. Damn, Michelle was almost 46 here, and was SMOKIN HOT!!!! 🔥

[@karolm4045]

I love the Mamas and the Pappas! I got their 1st album for babysitting my neighbors' kid at the raw age of 9 years old! The parent's couldn't afford to pay me in money so they paid me with my 1st three favorite albums of ALL time: The Mamas and the Pappas 1st album, The Beatles 1st album and Sonny and Cher's 1st album! The next time I baby sat for them...they gave me a beautiful black and white puppy dog, the Beach Boys first album and, the original album, with Julie Andrews' the Sound of Music!!! I still have all of the above but, not the puppy and, my brother traded me my Beatles' album for an album that was and is still worthless!😂😮

[@Set-Apart-By-Grace]

John says he had not taken a drug in ten years, but he sure is slurring pretty bad...I hope it was for some other reason.

[@markyboy214]

Sounds perfect to me 😍

[@glitter503]

He still had issues with alcohol but I noticed too

[@rski1036]

Never gave a hoot about him so I jumped ahead.

[@maureendevries1904]

John was probably still drinking in the 1990s.

[@Bananadiva1]

I love how Michelle stands up for herself in relation to her relationship with Gene Clark and clarifies John's infidelities. Michelle tends to get the blame for everything. Talk about sexism.

[@michelez715]

Suggest you read Michelle's autobiography. She was no angel. She used her looks to get what she wanted, and inflicted great hurt on Cass. She KNEW Denny was the love of Cass's life, but didn't think twice about having an affair with him. How hard would it have been to say "No" to Denny, when she had plenty of other admirers to choose from?

[@johnzuijdveld9585]

I'm glad I'm seeing this, after reading a lot of derogatory posts about John around a few subjects, he comes across to me as a guy who's trying to be as honest as he can be. It's sad that so many ppl. cannot foresee the inevitable BAD outcomes that come from self/mutual abuse, learning only after the fact! Such a waste "probably 4-5yrs err m ahh probably 8yrs" of lost creativity! It's a form of killing y/self! I'm struck by how well connected these artists were/are to each other, the respect they show t/wards each other and how little adversarial attitudes there seems to be.

[@johnnada1222]

There is a saying : “ life is a cruel taskmaster, first It gives you the test , then it gives you the lesson “ very true .

[@johnzuijdveld9585]

@@johnnada1222 I like that! 🤔 I do think it 'good food for thought.' I'm not sure if/how it applies to my life, but I know it was very tough 4 me at an early age and I was so stupidly, innocently naive, and I didn't think it wrong to light up all the candles in the RC. church because my fam. (7 kids) didn't get an opportunity to light a candle to pray for anything nice! The RC. so called 'Sisters of Mercy' and my own elder 3 (ugly sisters) sisters surely made sure that mercy is what I craved! 😏 I think I spent my yrs 5-15 trying to make sense of the life I was presented with . . .it makes you very introspective! But my councilors (2.5 yrs) tell me that I have very good insights. Sadly I feel I am not now able, passionate or energetic enough to make the knowledge I 'think I have' to do me or any woman good. So I don't know, have I s/how missed the lesson?

[@gardensofthegods]

@@johnnada1222 John that's very interesting ... do you know where you first heard that saying ... I never heard it before but it certainly can ring true in many instances .

[@disprogreavette8545]

Sleeping with your own child has a tendency to sour one's image in the public's eye.

[@johnzuijdveld9585]

@@disprogreavette8545 😃 Only if your child decides when she grows up that she had nothing to do with it!

[@josephmccaughey3486]

Most beautiful angelic woman to walk this earth

[@jeromemurphy2572]

His voice sounds somewhat different, can't put my finger on it. He is slurring his words in places.

[@marymagdalene3004]

Heroin.

[@nicoletrandel2966]

He's slurring his words because he fried his brain is only using half of his brain!

[@jv-ep2tc]

Phillips was on his way into the gutter here. He was so incredibly talented and has a legacy of music. But really, between the drugs and mental health issues, it was an incredible decline.