dont bs me ep 13 - dyno results (already!)

[@Akestler]

You're like Bob Ross. You make it look so easy. "We're gonna put a little splash of timing here, and add a PSI" boom 500+ tire.

[@wobblysauce]

+

[@chevellechris1]

"and lets add a happy little PSI here'

[@DuaneHallgren]

already been done

[@mrenforcer]

go straight to 30psi anything less means you still sit down to pee

[@SloppyMechanics]

hahhahaha

[@blalien777]

Sloppy Mechanics What are your thoughts on AEM Infinity ECU with this setup?

[@logansspeedshop7900]

blalien777 he doesn't care for them

[@biscuitninja]

I thought it was turn it up until you smell coolant and then back off a 1/4 turn.

[@BoWhiteRacing]

It's so nice when you know what the fuck you're talking about and can prove it. I love it. And congrats on the baby mine is due in a week.

[@SloppyMechanics]

+El Diablo gaming thanks and congrats to you also!

[@TomsTurboGarage]

What a beast! This series has been excellent, thank you for all of the straightforward, honest detail.

[@SloppyMechanics]

i am excited to see how it all worked out, even though i called it, always rewarding, thanks for your comment tom! i am happy to see you watching these haha

[@kennethnewman1055]

I love how every time you made a pull with you tube subtitles on, it says music at higher RPMs and Applause at idol.

[@SloppyMechanics]

lolol

[@billydamnit]

Mine says, "Music". Lol

[@ilikeboost4764]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it does.

[@marshallnoise3557]

You are a stud. You say you are going to do something and you do it. This is what real class looks like folks.

[@SloppyMechanics]

+marshallnoise lol thanks

[@dameonbarnhart2918]

Matt is the man. Tuning is key. Always learning new things from watching your channel. Thanks for all the hard work. And making it look easy.

[@SloppyMechanics]

because it is easy!

[@XBOXninja11]

damn, was about to go to bed, but I guess it can wait ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@SloppyMechanics]

sloppy mechanics be like, f yo bedtime

[@williamhill406]

Sloppy Mechanics You ain't just Whistling Dixie...

[@dilsher12]

Nice video , helpful to see how you approach tuning when starting to build a map . And also nice to see the hp increase , as you made all the tweaks .

[@stuartw1667]

Well done! I don't feel like I've been BS'd.

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Stuart W mission accomplished

[@Alex-yh2hj]

HE'S A CHEATER! Ethanol. The real test is how much power you can make on Wawa 91 in the PA rainforest before your pistons turn to lava... I'll be watching the Lehigh Valley for busted old NAPA truck. lol

[@EV_Rods]

Great stuff Matt. I can't wait to see how much this thing makes on straight gas.

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Shawn Cun it'll happen!

[@crab453]

Really enjoyed the way you did this - showing the progression through the dyno tuning process, and inserting helpful commentary between each. This is really cool to see. Thanks!

[@SloppyMechanics]

+crab453 it might not be right but it's given me results for a while haha

[@crab453]

I tune my own stuff, have for years, but I watch things like this and still get ideas on what I might be able to do differently. If it wasn't for guys posting say base tunes one place, then seeing others post about the tuning in others, I wouldn't be where I am. The little things are out there to add up to the big picture - if you look.

[@JDHBASS2448]

Wooo man that smaller turbo spools up quick and HARD. Thing still sounds like an absolute jet. Love it! Good stuff and can't wait for more

[@SloppyMechanics]

for sure

[@nizzy1057]

congrats boss. that seems like it would be a lot more fun to fuck around with on the road than the 1000 hp monster. sounds strong too.

[@monster92801]

Fuck yea matt keeping all those high dollar parts on the shelf showing us theres no need for them 4.great FTW

[@jsundevil1]

You can't BS a BS'er! This is the coolest thing I've ever seen. In a LS world of useless information this is pure knowledge. I always thought I needed to throw tons of money at mine for forged this and that and Mamo heads, fuck that. Amazing results, you're the fuckin shit!

[@DaveHiggoHiggins]

Mate, that's awesome. Congrats on proving the theory. Must be a blast to drive.

[@wildoregon8643]

Right on dude. Really appreciate you doing that last hell for glory pull and not going home with less than 500. It's funny how arbitrary the round numbers are, but weirdly satisfying. Excited to see what you do with the last 2% of injector duty.

[@SloppyMechanics]

goals, builds, progress, and success still feels the same, 1000whp same as 1000whp, just more money and heartache to get there, that is the point i try to show anyway. every reward is rewarding

[@c5natie1]

Awesome Matt! Crazy, getting power out of a mostly stock junkyard truck 4.8 that even supercars were barely making 20 years ago.

[@Wildkat9797]

The spool up on that is insane.

[@drealraj]

So happy for you man.... you said you were going to do it and there it is!

[@BoostedBuckets]

This is what we've been waiting for!

[@BoostedBuckets]

After watching this series I want to put a 4.8 in my mustang, I wanted to put a 6.0 in it but I can get a clean 4.8 In my area for literally a quarter of the price (about $500)

[@Wrenchlife604]

Do it up. A chevy powered ford should rustle some jimmys

[@sauceboss9313]

thanks for the tuning info. that's what I was referring too on the last vid. helps me understand your thought process when dealing with tuning. Now we need tune vids so I can feel comfortable dropping $$$ on HP without fear of blowing up.

[@SloppyMechanics]

i have how to use hpt videos on Vimeo, links on sloppymechanics.com links page

[@saab9251]

Congrats on blowing through the 500 mark! Also that thing sounds pissed off at idle, I like the cam choice.

[@SloppyMechanics]

yep that is the point, it might not even be a great turbo cam, but it does good enough in testing, 230 dollars shipped and sounds great, wich is what 90% of people want anyway

[@jtc18]

230 shipped wtf?? Where ? I've been scouring the web for one... doesn't help that our dollar sucks ass up here either.

[@jtc18]

There was no doubt in my mind what it would do. I was convinced back at fairmont 3. Certified bamf right there. Now a 3 city block burnout would be the cherry on top!

[@SloppyMechanics]

its coming

[@sandylarsen5938]

Great stuff!! Just thought I would post my first turbo LS project. 1970 Nova bone stock 6.0 2003 LQ4 (except injectors). Went 11.04 at 121 first time out on 7 psi, no intercooler, pump 94 and drag radials. Did spray windshield washer fluid as a precaution. Pulled 441 wheel hp on dyno. Plan is to bump boost to 10-12 psi and see if it will run a low 10. I think it will get into 10's with slicks on the 7 lb wastegate spring. 120 thousand mile junkyard motor never opened.

[@ttsupra87]

Just sick man! That's so awesome

[@vwbr3nt]

Im-fucking-pressive Matt! I love it

[@SloppyMechanics]

i called it babe ruth style

[@richardharris492]

Sloppy Mechanics out of the park!!!

[@vwbr3nt]

Yuussss

[@stepside78]

This is good shit. Love the channel.

[@nathanspalink5438]

Great job! I love the 4.8.

[@EmotionalTree]

Them damn 4.great's. Awesome work man.

[@PowderMonkey4Life]

Maybe it's time starting thinking, turbo baby stroller?

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Eric Sageser yes haha

[@corygilbert5666]

I need a small disposable income and I need it now! I want to do this in my dad's old Ram 50. It's just sitting, waiting for new life.

[@SloppyMechanics]

drugs

[@moneymac2864]

So cool...now more 1/4 miles pulls whoop whoop

[@LoneRevD]

Lol, sounds like a turbine Colorado, its awesome. I had no doubt you'd hit it, ain't yo' first rodeo, as always thanks for sharing!

[@ernestocuevas5128]

This is so awesome!

[@c987long]

Impressive! Keep up the good work!

[@falunbrick]

Man this gets me hopeful about my car, dynoing it Saturday, using your goldbox tune, don't know if it's ideal for my setup but it drives good and pulls hard! Haven't touched a thing

[@TPVPRO]

I would still like to see a carb turbo for us stone age guys.

[@SloppyMechanics]

i have zero interest in doing carb stuff, sorry

[@blackriflemensorganization6139]

Beautiful work! You have a gift, man! 4.8 in a Ford Pinto?!

[@ls1atoschak]

not to shabby ! Sounds like 500 !

[@SloppyMechanics]

she puts the nose up and keeps it up!

[@SamuelBrownDPnetwork]

Low timing and high boost vs high timing and low boost pretty much self explanatory

[@SloppyMechanics]

you might be surprised with what people fail to conceptualize

[@Music10161]

I wish I still had my 66Chevelle now

[@MrToolean]

Amazing. Well done Matt.

[@SloppyMechanics]

+MrToolean thanks!

[@thegrandpumbaa]

Watching from the UK so going to be late for work but had to see the numbers. Awesome work Matt, the whistle,is coming through loud and clear! I think I watch all of your videos, did you ever pass comment on the blow off valve?

[@interceptor0166]

you have 'A Very Particular Set of Skills'

[@SloppyMechanics]

+interceptor0166 lol indeed

[@interceptor0166]

Sloppy Mechanics Matt has a very particular set of turbo ls skills, turbo ls skills he has acquired over a very long career. turbo ls Skills that make him a nightmare for people like you. Mr. Happle we are blessed to have you as our teacher in this field. Congratulations on the baby too.

[@dustinswoboda4033]

and to think, i almost went to bed. solid numbers! i really need to work on my car to get it running... well my Nova, and not my G8 lol...

[@SloppyMechanics]

RIP sleep, sloppy uploaded at 1am again

[@trucavalier]

Gonna make me try a 5.3 swap jeeez

[@oneslowgp]

that sloppy cam idle never gets old

[@redone1995]

Great im looking forward to see what it does on gas . Where i live the closest place to me for e85 is 30 miles .

[@SloppyMechanics]

it should be capable of making the same power on gas, i will show and try also when i water it down

[@EDWARDTREVEY]

Yea Buddy that is what I wanted to see! gotta go get me a 4.8 and a turbo now. You make it so hard to keep up with you and the things you do. LOL Hey I was thinking about how cheap it is for you out there over on the west coast here any LS motor at a wreaking yard is right around $1400 and trying to find one at Pick-n-pull is kinda just a case of luck. You have got it so good over there.

[@SloppyMechanics]

the climate destroys the trucks so people throw them out, so the motors are a plenty

[@randombk82894]

the only thing about living in western NY i enjoy. Beat pieces of shit for dirt cheap everywhere with a perfect drivetrain

[@freebird1ification]

man its like mcdonalds im lovin it mat thats a bad mama jamer right thare

[@robertpolkamp3504]

Watched the series and can't help but come away with the notion that no other manufacturer allows for as much flexibility adapting engine/transmission combinations and OEM computer manipulation for applications obviously never originally intended. Try 500 horse out of a Ford 305 or magnum 318 without breaking everything including the bank! Great series, thanks.

[@DGGarage]

Nice work sir.

[@SloppyMechanics]

i try

[@turbolq4]

Sloppy Mechanics You succeed!!

[@JoeHynes284]

and to think , 1076 was just around the corner

[@EL-gu1oy]

This makes me want to put my 4.8 into my f100 instead of the 6.0

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Eli garcia just proving you don't need to spend double for some 6.0 tac

[@EL-gu1oy]

Sloppy Mechanics I have both lol the 4.8 came out of my sierra it has a collapsed a lifter and i got the lq4 for 700 with 109k

[@BadLuckGarage]

Outfuckingstanding sir! you never fail to impress. Boosting my 6.0 soon and following most of your guidlines. Only issue is im on a P59 pcm and Im not liking how it cuts my ve resolution by 50% when I switch to a 2 bar OS. Any way around that that you know of? It would be nice to me able to keep the 5kpa resolution. It gets even worse if you try to convert to 3 bar!

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Bad Luck Garage you don't need all that resolution you'll be fine

[@BadLuckGarage]

Thanks for the reply. The 2 bar resolution isn't so bad but if you goto 3bar on the p59 I think you only have about 7 rows left to tune out of boost by the time it compresses to make room. Just seems like that leaves a lot of room for error. I'm only planning to run a 2 bar map sensor but it would be nice if it would "add" the extra boost tables like it does in the earlier pcms instead of compressing to make everything fit in the original rows. Kinda fucks you on the copy/paste after converting too since you can only use every other row from the original tune.

[@ritchardposterior262]

could you do us a big one man? could you do a 91 octane pump tune? i know there would be some loss but us canadians do not get corn juice up here. i think there is like 4 pumps in all of canada.

[@SloppyMechanics]

yes

[@gusserov]

Would appreciate that, from canada as well, 4.8 turbo build in my near future.

[@NightshiftCustom]

I got a 2001 6.0 with almost 400k just begging for a turbo lol

[@ritchardposterior262]

don't check any bearings it will last for another 100k @ 650rwhp

[@akinshok]

Same here in Alaska! No Corn.. have to import race fuel or corn here. BS! Everyone here blends race fuel, runs Torco, or meth injects.

[@Korruptionen]

Would love to see dyno results with a full exhaust vs open downpipe.

[@AbbeyRoad69147]

Impressive.

[@horsepowerfactorytx]

you mentioned you start adding timing at peak torque @ around 8:49. You generally do the opposite to prevent excessive cylinder pressure, although I think you were tired and messed up. Good stuff, should be around low 600s on another dyno.. lol.

[@SloppyMechanics]

adding after. adding after

[@TurboDog73TX]

Just awesome..

[@Eastbayrob]

Build cool shit Meet your goal Drive it home

[@johnrayburn3302]

Do you ever get the cops called while you're dynoing? Cops around here really enforce the noise ordinance after dark

[@SloppyMechanics]

not even once in 13 years

[@inthe509jackofalltradesmas8]

That was awesome.👍

[@noid3948]

awesome! congrats on getting 500. explain the duty cycle plse. also, how would this engine setup do a round a roadcourse...way too laggy or what?

[@SloppyMechanics]

+No ID when I say duty cycle I am talking about how much of the injector I am using, hard to say If it would be good around a road course depends on your car gearing and more, I would assume a wider powerband might work better for a road.course car

[@tptrsn]

Like a BOSS Matt! :)

[@bsdell2766]

Awesome results! Any plans on doing a pump gas tune for this combo? More than likely copying the engine combo but no access to E85.

[@SloppyMechanics]

yes

[@jesscneal]

Did you adjust timing and fuel both between 3 & 4 to smooth that mid out like that?

[@SloppyMechanics]

yes

[@jesscneal]

After re-reading my own question I realize how mildly retarded it is and how obvious the answer is. Sorry Matt :) I guess I was wondering more about how far it was off and how much you had to adjust it. Thanks for everything!

[@AKDMB]

Do you like to keep it unlocked to just stay safe at WOT?

[@SloppyMechanics]

i keep it unlocked because it would hurt this converter

[@Truroben]

So what's next, 1000 horse 4.great?

[@SloppyMechanics]

eh, i dont think so for now, im really happy with the "low" hp budget build stuff

[@TheBrokenLife]

Windows XP.! Dyno must be hacked by Russians by now...

[@rollingaddiction5945]

Good shit Matt!

[@muratnalci5814]

I just ordered the same setup for my 92's10 4.8 swap project after i watched your " What turbo LS stuff should I get 2017 edition " video. Are you going to dyno with pumpgas only? because im at Turkey and you cant get ethanol based fuel from gas stations in Turkey.

[@austingrimm2996]

Murat Nalci you bet your ass he's going to do it on pump gas or this isn't Sloppy Mechanics anymore. Plus he says it at 6:05

[@dalethomas9307]

What AR on the hot side housing and do you know if that 78/75 has options for different hot side housings?

[@richardharris492]

Dale Thomas good question

[@SloppyMechanics]

not even sure, would have to ask VSracing

[@dalethomas9307]

Cool Im trying to get an Idea of how this turbo will act on a 6.0 in a 2500 Suburban it seems that it may be a little small on the hot side but ef it Im gonna try it.

[@Onhaey]

Makes me think my goal of 600whp on my lq4/7875 might be tougher than I thought

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Akizzem the turbo will do it just watch your ring lands

[@Onhaey]

Sloppy Mechanics stock ring gap for the win... hopefully the 250k the motor had opened them up a little

[@rdhines40]

Akizzem mine had 282k and the tops were as tight as .017 and as loose as .019 I opened all of mine to .023/.024 in that range. Second rings were all good but a few. I opened them to the same .023/.024

[@teamgmotorsports]

Good job!

[@richardharris492]

So with pump gas the injector duty cycle should be lower at the same power level? yes or no

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Richard Harris correct

[@El_Chompo]

Yeah it's got me curious because usually you make less power without ethanol but it will allow him to put in more fuel without it too, so Idk what will happen. I guess with gas there will have to be less timing to make up for the extra cooling and detonation prevention that alcohol gives?

[@utoobube]

Who's pretty ass damn silverado is that on the lift in the back? Bossmans truck?

[@timbrooks7493]

Good job! and NAnanana to all the nay sayers

[@damonbaldwin8993]

I put a edelbogg 750 on my 4.8. 14% duty cycle at any rpm.

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Damon Baldwin lol

[@Mobbintha559]

badass!!!!

[@chubroski527]

Im going to run a similar setup (5.3, sloppy stage 2 cam, decappeds, through an auto) and run about 15 pounds, hoping for closer to 600 wheel on pumpgas. Is that too much for de-capped injectors without e85? Should i just go ahead and get the 80#s?

[@richardscarlett7942]

Hey Mat, @1:18-1:20 it looks like there is something arching at the top center of your firewall where it looks like you have ablue wire attatched to the firewall? It does it on all other pulls on acceleration, didnt see it under decel.

[@SloppyMechanics]

its a label on the wiring harness, but thank you!

[@Ls3guy]

nice work

[@matthewtrent2019]

How does one learn how to tune like this?

[@SloppyMechanics]

i learned through trial and erorr

[@phoenixnfa]

What's the fuel pump duty? Is it gonna be good for the bigger injectors on the popcorn juice?

[@SloppyMechanics]

there is no fuel pump duty, its just running, injector is at 98% estimated on 78% ethanol

[@HammerHeadGarage]

Obviously the 4.8 is junk right? :)

[@francoisremillard9703]

Hey mat, do you think using 91 octane would be safe at this power level on this engine?

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Francois Remillard yes

[@pontiacross4230]

I have 4.8 fuel system is Aeromotive 340 pump with corvette fuel filter / regulator fuel rail is return less .Will this work for me

[@SloppyMechanics]

i am not a fan of the returnless vette regulator at all

[@pontiacross4230]

Sloppy Mechanics the problem that i have I have 3 set's of return less rail so I will use it .Because I am over budget the parts i already have

[@BadLuckGarage]

I don't know about the aero motive 340 but the walbro 450 overpowers the vette regulator filter big time. I recently had to get rid of the vette unit as it couldn't hold the pressure under 72psi with the larger pump.

[@JankyShack]

I installed the sloppy stage 2 cam in a 99 ls1 camaro and I have spent the last week playing with parameters to get it to idle correctly. How much timing do you run at idle? I recorded my MAF at 800 rpm to be about 9 g/s of airflow, do I use that number or do i need to modify it before i put it into the table? I set the cranking timing to 9 degrees, but right after it starts up it will either die or swing way down to like 200 rpm and then idle all over the place for 10 seconds and then idle fine after that. The pcm I have seems to be missing a lot of features that are shown in youtube videos.

[@SloppyMechanics]

are you using advanced view or simple view in hptuners, lots to learn, stock ecu wizardry isnt for everyone

[@JankyShack]

Oh, no fucking wonder. lol I was on simple view and everything I found online wasn't matching what I was seeing and I'm like uhh.... lol I also realized I needed to re-log airflow with my AC on since its hot af here and I use AC 11 months out of the year. Thanks for the help!

[@jongottschalk6648]

Hell yea

[@MattPratt]

If you are running out of injector and not pump, can you just bump your rail pressure up a few PSI?

[@SloppyMechanics]

its a stock non adjustable rail and regulator, of course you can change all that stuff but that is not the point of this project, i am going to swap to gasoline and see how it does next

[@RiversideRacecraft]

And people said that cam would be shitty haha.

[@SloppyMechanics]

truthfully BTR duals would work better in this instance, this cam is pretty rowdy. but its all there. might be an eat experiment, to put dual quality spring in and see what it does for power

[@BainRacing134]

Any chance what you thought was bad ignition pickup on the top end was actually valve float? I had a Comp XE-R grind in a SBC that float would come on like a switch at 6100RPM with Comp 918 beehives.

[@RiversideRacecraft]

Agreed, would be cool to see a back to back.

[@gunnywill20]

Nice!

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

I want to see what it will do on 93

[@SloppyMechanics]

+407ForRent same amount on less injector I think everyone is missing that point

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

Sloppy Mechanics will you have to pull back the timing to prevent detonation? Thus lose a little power? Unfortunately I can't get the E85 around me that's why I'm curious.

[@americanmusclefan10K]

I would guess that he could probably run 15 degrees up around 6k that's really pretty conservative ignition timing

[@jtelliso]

Windows XP. My man.

[@storminnorman4167]

So have you got a fuel pressure gauge on there ? Hows that single walbro doin ?

[@SloppyMechanics]

didnt check yet, seems like fuel is ok, will continue to provide results good or bad

[@storminnorman4167]

Nice. What do you think some 243 heads would do for that combo ?

[@Sebastianx115]

Whats the max boost you will run on this safetly?

[@SloppyMechanics]

safe? that is a objective question, how much will i probably put throught it once or twice, upwards of 30 if all goes well

[@onelowvdub]

what is the light that keeps coming on it the engine ? leaked spark?

[@SloppyMechanics]

+Joshua Hinchey I'm not sure what you're talking about can you give me a specific time that it might be happening and I can maybe take a look and explain what's going on if I see what you're talking about

[@onelowvdub]

Sloppy Mechanics 2:18 to 2:26 pull . you see a light come on on top of the engine on the driver's side by the intake manifold each time you throttle down

[@onelowvdub]

that's just one example it does it each time you do a pull till you let go of the throttle

[@justin_parks]

Joshua Hinchey its been a month i know, but i believe its the BOV closing