STI vs. EVO - Which is ACTUALLY better

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The never ending car meet parking lot debate; Subaru WRX STI versus Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution. We break down the STI and EVO from the fast and furious EVO VII to Baby Driver’s Hawk Eye WRX STI. From the Lancer Evolution’s Iron block 4G63 to the signature Impreza WRX STI flat 4 engine. Join Joey as he leaves no stone unturned either tarmac or gravel; lets see who the real 4 door/boosted 4 cylinder is the real victor.
Versus puts two automotive giants toe to toe as Joey Rassool tallies up points to see who is the victor. Anything from heritage, performance, and even availability are taken into consideration. You can argue with him all you want but you can't argue with the numbers.
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[@Donut]

What other rivalries do you wanna see?

[@carlososorio7645]

350z vs g35 lmao

[@nasafan23dl44]

Mustang vs. Camaro

[@gluee8674]

supra vs r34

[@owensmith2761]

Mustang vs Camaro

[@richvanceljemg.aldover7819]

Supra vs r34 vs rx7

[@garnicamark2892]

FACT: OWNERS OF STI AND EVO RESPECT EACH OTHER. ONLY FANBOYS DON'T

[@_Jesus1221_]

Garnica Mark 100% facts

[@Arelia39]

That's a true fact indeed... Respect...

[@nicholas5139]

I legit wave and look at Evo owners when I drive my WRX, and I always get a nod or a pull by them to hear their exhaust or something. I legit never experienced the hate ever.

[@_Jesus1221_]

Nicholas I always wave at subies haha, I’ve never not once not waved back lol, we always wave at each other, I’ve literally had some pull up to wherever I end up going and telling me “your evo x is clean” and then we end up becoming friends haha subie to evo love is real

[@iaingartshore1578]

FACT!

[@OHNmotorsports]

I see them as brothers, not enemies

[@Wabeeninc]

Damn right

[@abdulhadisaleh5963]

Sisters*

[@currythegoatofmankindthepa5156]

Cousin's

[@Madblaster6]

Still Rivals

[@Delita22]

family

[@Flex030]

As a WRX owner I love it when evo owners acknowledge me. It is a love of cars not war. Both cars are fun and exciting to own.

[@deathtoming2201]

@Alexander Sterling bet you don’t even own either of them lol

[@Aj_470]

Vlog or it never happened...

[@IAMMRONALD]

stop lyy

[@johni4591]

Sti is better

[@joshhoff2923]

Why wouldn’t they. Only a retard would hate someone because of a type of car they drove lol

[@ApolloGP]

its funny because us car owners love both and look at them as siblings, yet those without a drivers license manage to judge one over the other

[@maskedguyplays4814]

Evo vs STI is like asking people which side of boob they'd choose. Everyone would take both.

[@Sn0wyriot]

MaskedGuyPlays lmao I rather have a bullet proof dsm instead a pos that lives in the shop more then on the road

[@bnrlife3213]

Rather stick with my r32 tho, even if sti and evo are the different sides of boobs the gtr would have to be the 3rd base😂

[@marcel6773]

Fucking agree 😂

[@DaveGee420]

But can't afford

[@jdm132]

Not unless one side is saggier than the other

[@Turbo.RF4]

Evo's are red Subie's are blue But we all know They go both *bra-brap stututututututu*

[@TheMattyPoppins]

They're different sides of the same shit sandwich?

[@Vrilltrooper-of-sillymaxxia]

@@TheMattyPoppins I have a NA subie though

[@TheMattyPoppins]

@@Vrilltrooper-of-sillymaxxia I feel bad for you?

[@doublewishbone_]

lmao

[@hughneutron5303]

@@Vrilltrooper-of-sillymaxxia WELL WHAT ARE YOU DOING, SLAP A SNAIL ON THAT BAD MAMAJAMMA AND LET 'ER EAT!

[@Downstriker559]

I've owned both, started out with STi's, got my first Evo, and now I'm never looking back. Although I do love the sound of a good boxer.

[@benschreiner7367]

Owned an 04 STI and an 06 EVO MR; would take the MR every time.

[@jermainejackson2870]

@@benschreiner7367 why I'm asking because I'm thinking of making a project car!

[@daturbo4life711]

@@jermainejackson2870 I guess everyone is different, see for me I owned a gsr and now 06 STI. I’d pick the STI over the Evo In my experience owning both : Evo is cheaper to get more hp out of the engine 4g63 is a strong engine, but spend $$$ on the transmission/drivetrain if ur looking for big hp Where’s the STI it’s opposite, drivetrain/transmission is almost bulletproof but have to spend $$ on the Engine (EJ25) for being weak for it to hold high hp reliable It’s really just pick ur poison. But end of the day they are both awesome cars to drive!

[@Jez4prez1]

​@@daturbo4life711 import a Spec C EJ20 STI, and all your problems are solved. This is the platform to build a very good Subaru on, and it smokes EVOs (JDM STI's have been smoking EVOs for decades). And the prices of them are actually very reasonable these days too. You get the best of both worlds, the chassis is better than standard STI (much better than EVO chassis also), the drivetrain still almost bulletproof (like you said on the normal STI), but now the motor is almost bulletproof too.

[@daturbo4life711]

@@Jez4prez1 The Ej207 is such a great engine. Legit smokes Evos, stock for stock. And yes I’m terms of Engine for my car. I’ve gone one better on my STI, got a forged Closed deck short block. (EJ257) Upgraded Turbo, have no issues with it whatsoever, and no problems smoking my friends Evos 😉

[@SomethingVISCID]

True rivals don't hate - they drive each other to become better.

[@dbstherollers8106]

I’m the only one in my group of WRX and STI’s friends that has a evo 9 and it’s all love no hate 👌🏽💯

[@EvoAlfie]

As an evo owner I love it when WRXs and STIs give me the wave 👋 I’m glad to see the rivalry become a brotherhood. At the end of the day we go sututu

[@fishnchips5826]

Aww man... i wanna wave or honk to an evo or other sti 😔 sadly most evo here is sold for almost like 60-67k usd. I drive a '13 wrx sti hatchback btw 🤘🏾😬

[@erikpatricksson3348]

One sututu ✊🏼

[@ArtDamage911]

​@@fishnchips5826 I really wish they'd continue the STI and/ or WRX hatchbacks... I think they look way more unique and mean than the sedans.

[@Vroom1121]

I just wave at every JDM modified car in my WRX. Sometimes I get a confused look, sometimes I get a wave back haha

[@fishnchips5826]

@@ArtDamage911 thats exactly the main reason why i bought the hatchback 😅

[@yappers7038]

STI: I have won “But at what cost?” STI: the head gasket

[@1slashwylde]

Your thinking of NA subaru engines

[@schizofennec]

Stis don't blow gaskets since they changed the design years ago

[@aiden6843]

@@jimmer411 it's not common but it still happens depends how the person drives it as well

[@jdmking4776]

@@jimmer411 Well you're coworker is a nitwit then. Maybe if he didn't Ricky race the shit out of it then he would have a different outlook. The only engines that have head gasket failure as a result of a factory defect are the ej251, ej252 and the ej253. The single overhead cam has internal head gasket leaks, and the dual over head cam has external leaks.

[@RichRusso4218]

@@schizofennec Lmfao, FALSE!!!

[@btuttle8]

12:43 Actually aged really well as that's exactly what's happening with the WRX, no sti version, looks weird imo, and it's probably gonna become electric in the next few years.

[@61fordf2504x4]

After watching the latest Hi/Low series Im inclined to go with the Evo regardless 😅

[@jjman532]

Its not the cars fault. Most subs are relatively pretty bullet proof, but they were running a new engine to the limit without proper break in time. Not to mention subi bros aren't know for their care of their vehicles very well so hard to tell what maintenance was like before they purchased them. Don't let that one example stick out many subis can push 300,000 miles before getting any issues if they are cared for.

[@cosmic_emg5696]

I have a bugeye with 240k on it hasnt given me too serious problems just regular maintenance stuff

[@legoguy5944]

Well that's the curse of old Subies

[@deankomadina253]

@@cosmic_emg5696 I also have a bugeye but with 281K on it and it hasnt given me many issues either other than regular maintenance, quite a bulletproof generation

[@marmedalmond9958]

@@legoguy5944 what about a 2007 hawkeye subaru impresario sti?

[@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure]

He said that the Evo died a hero while the STI is still alive but getting fatter day by day. *You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain* P.S.: I just wanted to say this line, not taking any sides lol....evo or subaru.

[@defyingtheodds1987]

Akina Hachi Roku yup and it’s rarity is less.

[@NatedoggZombies]

Or you live long enough to get fatter

[@bijan4697]

I have a 2018 WRX and it’s not even that heavy. I weighed it on a truck scale and it came in at 3,000lbs - lower than what it was advertised at.

[@user-uc3yn3ku2x]

202Xcorolla+flat4+awd-reliability-mpg＝202X impreza

[@postalpancho]

ummmmm the Evo weighs more than the STI!!!! HAHAHA bigger doesn't mean heavier. With newer production technologies cars can be made bigger, lighter and stiffer. This is a plus in the Subarus favor. Sorry EVO guys, you actually have the fat car.

[@WolfHreda]

"I daily an FRS and track a Yaris." *This is the way*

[@Exzalian]

Yaris hilton?

[@zurielvalladares5947]

As soon as he said that I knew the STI was gonna win

[@CapeRides]

Lol I read that in mandalorian voice 🤣👍🏼

[@Exzalian]

@@CapeRides why lol

[@shuabugay]

@@CapeRides i totally see that!

[@Goyxrd3]

Where are my Subie and evo boys at 😤🔥

[@deadwillytv6528]

in every other comment mate

[@Rumblefan]

@@deadwillytv6528 I’m dead 🤣

[@hawaiigoat275]

Hold my beer…

[@timkenda8203]

I've always loved both; a good friend of mine owns an EvoX, and he's done all sorts of work to it and it's BEAUTIFUL! I also had a friend that had an STI with about 20k worth of engine and suspension mods and he used to tape a 20 to the dash and put people in the back,and if you could grab the 20 before he hit 60 you could have it. I don't remember anyone actually being able to grab the money lol

[@michaelsookoo3927]

Conclusion: STI and EVO are great, just grab both

[@crow9149]

But I'm poor :(

[@st0nrfox564]

I'd choose the 2006 WRX sti turbocharged 2.5 flat 4

[@noodlah_]

only if i could find somewhere to buy

@false prophet mohammed is a pedophile I own a evo bro and used to own a sti

[@mdntwlf2902]

Ikr

[@pedrobarnez5502]

evo dissapears from market: "bummer" focus rs shows up on the sceen: "theres choices again!" focus dissapears from market:😐

[@NightcrawlerNC]

In the uk they are still massively produced

[@juancarlospalomino8939]

very cool cars, but they don't sell well in america, SUV's, crossovers and trucks are selling a lot and that's what manufacturers will keep making

[@TehClassifiedEagle]

American ford are stupid.

[@44actual]

This is so true that I might actually cry.

[@YuShawStang]

@@juancarlospalomino8939 I though Focus RS sold too well. I have seen plenty complaints that dealers marked up a few thousands on top of MSRP.

[@PowerfulE]

I'm an Evo guy, but I also love Imprezas, the Hawkeye especially.

[@allcore5172]

Hawk eye spec b owner 🦄🦄

[@janmullner6765]

That's the way dude don't hate on each other see the best thing of both

[@rooklink808]

Bugeye for me ever since the wagon came out back in the day.

[@cay7809]

I like 22Bs

[@Rumblefan]

@@rooklink808 yup. Bugeye is the best. I have a blobeye sti right now, but I miss my blue bugeye

[@joebidden4914]

Having owned 2 Evos and 2 STI's, I can say they are both great cars and excellent fun and handle amazingly. The performance edge for handling and power and cost per HP for upgrading goes hands down to the Evo. Evo is much more reliable and costs way less to modify. I also like that the driving system you don't have to pin the throttle to hold a drift and let the car work it out for you, fluctuating the throttle kills the slide unless your on the ice/snow. STI is hands down more comfortable to ride around in, has better road manners and looks great. It's still fast, still handles very well, but unless you have driven an Evo you won't realize how much better the Evo handles.

[@apophisstr6719]

Mitsubishi can just bury themselves if they're gonna turn the EVO into a crossover.

[@everydayfullofrandomness5475]

You can burry your mamma

[@maksim.7361]

Its not its probably going to be a awd hatch I think

[@AngeloDenwillPetate]

Hope not or worst turn Evo into a freaking Electric SUV like how ford did it.

[@Mike-uo2gg]

I drive a 4th gen eclipse they turned that into a crossover which is BS they should give that a different name

[@caleb580]

they wrecked the eclipse to

[@Supertuner]

“I’m not crying you’re crying” when the evo funeral scene started 😭

[@SpecVBlue]

Get these freaking onions away from me

[@t.greggprojectrallyjuke6394]

Mitsubishi is so fringe lately. First they make the eclipse a crossover. Now they plan to make the Evo a crossover. Mitsubishi hates their customers.

[@coleburgos1610]

The I wanted to scream when I saw the suv, horrible

[@crapfox2464]

Me too

[@mateohernandez8317]

Honestly same EVO was the first love

[@esg_zom3319]

Met an owner of a sick evo at work (WRX owner here), and we were both in love with each other’s cars. At the end of the day, they’re both AWD sedans that sound and drive great.

[@NoelKunz]

I love both and grew up loving both. I’ve always tended to like the Subaru slightly better in every generation except the Evo 9. I just freaking LOVE the Evo 9. But you can’t lose with either. Such amazing cars. It’s all in preference.

[@ivandiaz8385]

"The STI keeps getting fatter" "the STI has no purpose to stay fit. It has lost its motivation. XC

[@postalpancho]

ummm, Golf R, Focus RS, Civic Type R, Veloster N?..... competition is tighter than ever and to be honest with you as a Subaru owner myself I don't think we are winning. I think the only reason people buy a Subaru now is because we have one of the best import communities.

[@CSEabdulalimkhan]

@@postalpancho take those and a imp on a rally track and you'll see that there aren't much competition.maybe abit from the focus rs.but that's it.

[@wPJyat]

@@postalpancho snapback wearing vapers don't buy any of those cars.

[@nathanreyes4309]

@@postalpancho For winter areas, the FWD options are removed. But I genuine am impressed by the Veloster N and the Type R.

[@chewser117]

@@nathanreyes4309 The Civics actually do really well in the snow. I sold my WRX a couple of years ago and switched to a newer Civic Si, with the limited slip dif both tires bite right down allow you to go. While it's not as nice as my old WRX in the snow it wins in every other department except for sound.

[@shadowspiritgaming4929]

"I daily an FRS and track a Yaris" Me: *confused ooga booga*

[@BK-mv2mk]

BooglA booga booooo

[@Duraputer]

A Scion FRS has a Subaru boxer engine in it, so that mean he already has a bias for Subaru.

[@VeliRajasaar]

@@Duraputer The FA20 could barely be accused of creating bias, nothing to really write home about... It's the chassis and its balance that allows for great fun :)

[@betterwithrum]

Going fast in slow cars is way better than going fast in fast cars. Repairs, parts, insurance. Wreck a Yaris on the track, no cares. Wreck an Evo on the track and that’s a bad day.... check out how many car journalists own Fiesta ST. One of the best and under rated cars ever. MSRP was under 15k new

[@TheTyler8848]

Sad unga bunga

[@vebastiansettel1173]

Both are a great car, but evo handling is just pure bliss for me.

[@mouneebak2078]

funny because the wrx handles better, lighter and the the flat 4 gives it lower centre of gravity, both are amazing cars in the end though

[@vebastiansettel1173]

@@mouneebak2078 I drive amateur rally in my country I'm somewhere in Asia. Just small modification like suspensions and some basic tuning. My experience driving both car in gravel evo is easier to drive than subaru. I myself have and drive evo 4 and this car is just a sweet spot for me. Subaru wrx 2004 is great but I just can't seem to carried more speed in the corner than my evo. But maybe I just adapt better because the evo is my own. Sorry for my bad English tho

[@mypie2473]

@@vebastiansettel1173Your english is great and amazing information!

[@ElliotMelloy]

These comparisons mean nothing because you can pick whatever 5 categories you need to make sure the final score is close with only one point between them. You could pick 5 different categories and make either car look way better than the other one. Personally I just prefer the Evo, it's always been better looking, better handling and easier to work on.

[@SeventhShadow27]

"You can argue with me all you want, but you can't argue with the numbers" But... you chose the numbers

[@Zaberdutton]

THE Sandman I also happen to think that 2nd round was weird. He was like Evo was better here and Evo was better there but STI wins. I was like huh?!?

[@equiman85]

Right? What a joke.

[@bryaneff]

Accurate about 350 being the upper limit of the EJ engines.. 450 for the Evo engines? Bitch please. There are many many many people driving around with 500-600AWHP on the 4G and 4B platform daily driving. The bias is very real

[@ppanosggian8633]

@@bryaneff he said 350 with stock engine is recomended...you can go higher ofc but the stock engine may explode in any time

[@TGCampbell8]

Blayzie ya probably with a rebuilt t case too

[@PaganiGaming]

Day 100 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

[@caninkendall8240]

PaganiGaming wow

[@Seventhsu]

You're dedicated as hell my guy

[@vuiupian]

he could’ve done that on april fools day, opportunity missed.

[@Radical2090]

100TH DAYYY WHOOOO

[@befer]

@@vuiupian did they even do anything for the April Fool's?

[@cheesypnut9827]

Honestly, i could never pick any between these two, i love both to death.

[@MusicLover1049]

One thing that should be elaborated on regarding the stock bottom end power figures you provided: the 350 HP for STi and 400 HP for Evo is wheel horsepower not at the engine.

[@wooshyB]

As a turbo subaru owner, an evo is a diamond in the rough. Something special about seeing them even with the bias

[@natequillin4365]

I love a clean evo, but I'm wrx/Sti all the way!

[@Rumblefan]

I agree. I’ve owned 2 wrxs and currently drive an sti. I see and wave to other subies all the time, but I hardly ever see evos, and when I do, it’s like spotting an exotic car cause I maybe only see a few of them a year out in the wild. Only at car shows or events do I see a decent amount of them. Just out on the street, I never see them, and when I do, I’m never in my subie to give them a wave ☹️

[@18dyl]

If WRX/STI production ended it would be the same

[@merki8290]

Diamond in the rough

[@Rumblefan]

@@18dyl if production ended when the evo did, Subaru pretty much wouldn’t have the 2015-2021 model, which is indeed the most common, but I still see wrxs/stis from 2002 to 2014 more often than all evos, especially the 2004 sti I see every single day while I’m driving it 😂

[@myleshicks2873]

"You couldn't have an STI without Mitsubishi" *Proceeds to discuss all of the AWD tech Mitsubishi pioneered* *Score: "Same for this category"* Me: Umm?

[@derp_wolf9688]

Myles Hicks ikr. That category makes no sense. The evos were faster for soo long. And comparing the track times because that sti was a few years newer

[@carfreakjim]

Exactly my thoughts. Would have made the ending better as well if the evo won that part. Everybody into these cars knows one isn't better as the other, it just depands which one you personally like better.

[@samunaesi7727]

That and also the culture part don't make sense.

[@Gnefitisis]

Let's get it straight, Subaru's reputation is built on AWD (in all models but Toyotabaru) while Mitsubishi not so much.

[@yaboyg2049]

I dont understand how he put the new evo suv concept into this, it isnt even out yet and he just put it there as if it ruined everything.

[@stevenblackwell7744]

I'm a Subie driver myself, I've always owned a Subaru, but I would absolutely LOVE an Evo if I could find one. Preferably an early 90s model because those are my favorite era of cars.

[@Max-uj1kg]

ive never been super into cars but this is really interesting. good video 👍

[@alecnoel3213]

They rated Evos lower so that the price doesn’t go up any higher for them lol

[@bubbles1525_]

Evo is a better cars, I go to a Subaru/toyota shop and the mechanics there say save your money modding a Subaru lol

[@yohan1902]

killa bubbs25 Better engine yes but shitty trans, tcase, drivetrain, etc.

[@bubbles1525_]

@Bob Saget Facts

[@bubbles1525_]

@@yohan1902 it's bc it makes more power, sti trans is the same thing

[@bubbles1525_]

@@yohan1902 when a car makes more power the more things will break

[@Jesus-ss2rn]

Im a evo guy, but you know its a ying and yang story I respect the Sti but my heart is with the Evo. We should love the car community and forget all the haters. We ALL LOVE CARS

[@ZhunterPLUR]

Except hondas even ap1 and 2 have that shit storm double wishbone out back

[@evansorensen]

Facts

[@Joshuaairsofter]

I drive a evo and I'm the same I'll always give a subie a wave and yeah my hearts with the evo but a good subie rips

[@ernodios]

I'm on the EVO team but every time I see a Subaru on the street, you bet it turns my neck as well. Respect!

[@alxgu198]

Well said Jesus 😁. I have a Subaru myself but I love both. Both great cars, it’s the rivalry that created them.

[@highwayman1218]

Recently sold my 06 Hawkeye STI. LOVED the car. Always brought a smile to my face. Bought it new in 05. Drove it hard, auto-x and trackdays. Well over 100k hard miles and it never let me down. I spent alot on top shelf parts, knowledgeable tuning and well maintained with OEM parts. Didnt drive it like a clown missing shifts and 5k launches. Never any issues. Loved the EVO 9 and 10, great cars also, just always a Subaru owner.

[@Nogdog945]

I love both. Legitimately. My first look at an evo was indeed 2fast 2furious but I later discovered the sti/wrx on my own looking into cars and researching and fell in love with it. I’m firmly in the middle on this love of either one.

[@hathaway.1166]

That debate ended the moment Mitsubishi killed off the Evo. But. I love both.

[@molotovjon6788]

Alan Golden I believe that was due to sales though a car can sell poorly and still be better than other cars

[@eddiegaytan236]

I'm an Evo dude and I agree.

[@danielbartek9194]

@@molotovjon6788 i heard it was because they didnt have money for that project and also that nissan owns them and they think what people want is crossovers im not sure if the second part is real but i heard somewere

[@JakubSvoboda23]

Alan Golden :(

[@befer]

Wait they did ?

[@guibaesa]

I dare you to make this video: Supra vs. Skyline.

[@arthursalomao9042]

You'll start a war mate hahaha

[@TacoTourist]

Honestly both had great motors but that dam 2jz gte is something else with saying that I'd love to see ford barra motor vs 2jz gte

[@deek1701]

Shut up

[@dreadone6894]

The Mitsubishi 3000gt better than both

[@rayo8190]

how original

[@khaos3690]

I love my STI, but I've been looking for an Evo for a long time to add along side of it. Nothing but love all around.

[@FallenArtemie]

Both cars are sorta my entry into cars. I would always see them in rally and always thought rally racing was subaru and mitsubishi on the dirt roads. To this day, they still hold that image, but it's so sad so see the Lancer die off and the latest WRX become a large sedan with no STI or 5 door edition

[@sdewey4152]

"If you don't rumble down the driveway are you even a subi bro?" The answer is; No.

[@VeteranShark]

You forgot the subie wave too!

[@cade_44]

VeteranShark the heartbreak when they don’t wave back😥

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

Cries in stock exhaust

[@glennwilliams3692]

😥 how do I unlock subie rumble in my FA

[@VeteranShark]

Glenn Williams sell your FA for a WRX

[@laughingcures8563]

I’ll always be more of a evo guy but I’ll always still love subies. They’re brothers to me not enemies

[@samurboi8007]

😭😭

[@stefan_4508]

Exactly, I’m a Subaru guy but I will admit that the Evo is the mechanically superior car in almost every way (apart from awd, I think subies have the better system). An ‘04 blobeye sti is my dream car but I also love evo 5s and 6s, especially the tme edition

[@StonedLazy]

Amen. I'd be proud to park both in my garage but I gotta move the Golfs out of the way

[@edang352]

I really like seeing other people that aren’t James or Nolan, it’s really refreshing

[@wisdomspirit3159]

I love both of them... but evo allways has a special place in my heart.

[@wisdomspirit3159]

@DYLAN CHAHMIRIAN Nah man. Dont have time rn

[@Freegrem]

I love how on the internet we absolutely “hate” each other but every time i hit the track me and the sti guys are instantly best friends. Lol and im an evo guy and my little bro is an sti boi idk how we end up with either

[@Niranjan04]

That's why we're car guys 👍👍

[@77xyu94]

Lol i am more to jdm while my bro is fan of murican muscle but we actually fights a lot😂

[@Neishy4AGTE]

That's the internet for ya.

[@jerodwolford2743]

To be fair I dont think you can like one and not like the other. Evos and sti's are just cars you cant help but like unless you're a boomer who thinks if there isnt a v8 it isnt fast. This is also coming from a dodge guy.

[@apflorante7915]

If this ends up in tie and "its all about preferences", imma get mad.

[@r1rhp]

Bayek Florante LMAO I SWEAR TO GOD

[@atomicdeathray2004]

Lol well it didnt

[@Swerzuh]

@Supercharged Chicken STi's are unreliable garbage. Evos have always been more classy not to mention they're capable of so much more horsepower.

[@slipperydoorknob2173]

I remember going nuts as a 5 year old when I couldn't buy the STi Type R in GT1. My second favorite car in the game was the Lan Evo IV. The pre-'98 rally livery is the most iconic.

[@mmafan2223]

I owned a 2013 and 2015 STI. Have hundreds of hours on both at the track. I now have an 2015 EVO which I also track extensively. On track, both STI and EVO have weakness of being nose heavy and under steering into a tight corner. You mitigate this with trail braking, and the EVO is more eager to rotate with this technique. The EVO then has that wonderous S-AYC rear diff that can push power to the outside wheels, allowing application of throttle sooner and even more rotation to point the nose of the car at the apex sooner. So EVO is more fun, intuitive, and faster on the track. The EVO is always doing what you want it to do, with the STI you are mitigating its weaknesses at all times. On twisty, broken tarmac, b roads, the 2015 STI actually gave me the most confidence, owing to its stiff chassis and suspension. The 2013 STI was scary AF, its suspension too soft. The EVO felt like a compromise between the two STIs. On city roads though, the STIs feel much better. EVO feels like a cheap econo rental by comparison. So it all comes down to your preferences on how you define "better".

[@ADVERSARYsix]

“Mitsubishi is planning on brining the Evo back as crossover” first thing you find when searching “lancer evo crossover” on google is multiple articles that state that sources within Mitsubishi have said that IF the Evo makes a return, it’s NOT going to be a crossover 😅

[@joshuanickoloff2997]

ADVERSARYsix #biasedreview

[@trent7080]

Its actually to be based on the CMF chassis and be developed with the next generation Renault Megane RS.

[@arsyadaiman8474]

A rumour from some website and an actual concept from the actual company, hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@ADVERSARYsix]

@@arsyadaiman8474 The concept is for a car called e-Evolution not the Lancer Evolution, there is no correlation between the two car models.

[@PERFECTxFALL]

@@arsyadaiman8474 The new crossover concept is for the new Mitsubishi e-Evolution car, which is a completely separate new model that has nothing to do with the Lancer Evolution. Just because the the car model has “evo” or “evolution” in the name doesn’t mean that it’s related to the Lancer Evolution, this just happens to be a new Evolution line that happens to be designed by Mitsubishi.

[@Raez_XL]

"you cant have an Sti without a Mitsubishi"... Gives equal points. *LOGIC*

[@dorlsgraville9707]

One side biased. He favors STI

[@amralmatni6586]

Evo made NO changes in the last 10 years that's why he gave them equal score.

[@davidschwartz3427]

@@amralmatni6586 To be fair, he said it was beating the STI during that time. They're both cool af. I just like Evos more because boxers have oil issues.

[@FRLCA-qc3fc]

No it's called Communism :3

[@Nyew18]

@@amralmatni6586 the fact that subaru can't beat the evo even tho they made no changes says something, no hate brother I love both cars but I can tell that he's just being bias

[@mre912]

I waited till the end to give this video a thumbs up 👍 lol. I'm a Subie guy. I absolutely love crushing Evo's in my 2002 Bugeye. Much respect to Evo owners. It's a brotherhood we share together, but the rivalry is fun too. I waive to them the same I do when I pass or see another Subie. Great video.

[@speedyham545]

Nice "All Aspects" decal on a Cali car @10:19. Cheers to my favorite builder, racer, and tuner.

[@abelardions7600]

3:19 I'd like to state a fact: In BBC's "Top Gear" show, Jeremy Clarkson proved that the Lancer Evo FQ360 could keep up with a Lamborghini Gallardo on track

[@WillPaturzo]

FQ400 and it was a Murcielago so even more impressive!

[@danielevans4573]

Will true

[@jaynjuguna]

so what?

[@spaghetti5038]

@THEMLGNOSCOPER0 no there was no bad turbo lag. They spool up pretty good from factory. I know what you're referring to and it was the dumbest argument ever. What he was doing was lugging the engine. Putting it in a high gear at the wrong speed with his foot to the floor. Any car turbo or not will do the same thing cause the rpm is way too low to do what he was asking of the car. I have no idea why they did such a stupid thing

[@JohnySv]

Lol this guy thinks that top gear reviews are accurate...

[@johnnykeller7648]

I can't lie...I cried like a little girl when Mitsubishi unveiled the "Final Edition" because of EVERYTHING it represented...the end if an era, the end of a rivalry, the end for the "fun" era or Mitsubishi...it broke my friggin' heart and the Evo will forever be a legend...it kinda reminded me of Spike Spiegel in a way...it didn't wanna live for ever and did what it came to do...

[@blowngasket299]

it will come back

[@chziaulhassan3264]

Yep it will

[@mengx94]

As a crossover suv

[@maxxbodyshow3203]

@@mengx94 😂

[@repent4christ541]

Evo stopped being good when they pulled the 4g63t out of it and put in i believe the db11....4g63 for the win

[@memememermemest4117]

I love STI and have for years now but must say that I get more excited seeing an EVO due to the fact of how rare they are, I do not hate EVO what so ever, in fact if I could I would most certainly own one, respect both 🤙

[@YISP7]

I worked for 10 years in a Mitsubishi dealership and had the pleasure of driving many EVOs, even on track with the company. I always liked them :)

[@joelsamonie7728]

The fact that the Evo is less accessible is why it makes it more special. I see STIs all day and don't look twice. When you see an Evo it's a little bit more exciting because they are rarer.

[@faizzs3542]

yupp! this call aura

[@richarddeansalem2734]

@@faizzs3542 you can literally make an evo yourself why is accessibility a category here lmao

[@WinterKloudz]

richard dean salem how can you make an evo yourself?

[@markcoats960]

@@richarddeansalem2734 What?? I mean I suppose you could make ANY car yourself with enough time and money but no, you can't just make a car. "Also if u really want to do this, buy a manual lancer and then convert to a manual evo. It would be a lot easier. All in all it is a very expensive and complicated procedure, but it can be done. However, I do not recommend it as it could easily end up costing you more than to just buy an evo or ralliart." - from evolutionm forums. It would be easier to convert the Impreza into an STI

[@michaellauder7462]

when you see a 22b your head spins

[@Higeki888]

F the evo's and sti's i wanna kno about this mans Yaris

[@alexandrealcantara8465]

性交するTheOorange lmao fr fr

[@SI0AX]

TBH, it's the smart decision for track racing. You are likely to crash the car and Yaris parts can be attained from the junkyard for nearly nothing. It's also very reliable which is another thing you want in a track car. Toyota parts can also be had pretty cheap parts are common across multiple platforms from sedans, SUV's and even the luxury Lexus brand. Honda I would say is better, but getting parts in a junkyard for older cars is no where near as easy as for Toyota sadly.

[@m7md408]

There has never existed a more beautiful rivalry.

[@TurbhoeHDRemix]

This video is helped me a little bit in determining which of the two I was gonna get. And as a WRX driver now it was a good decision but sometimes I think of what if I'd gotten an Evo? Every time I see an Evo, I gotta smile because it really is a better car in some ways, but it just wasn't meant to be. If it weren't so damn expensive, maybe I would've gotten it.

[@vipermoon_]

Performance shouldn't have been tied, it should have gone to EVO based entirely on what you said.

[@spiders_8792]

I'm a Subaru guy and also expected EVO to get more points for performance.

[@vashusan1984]

Owned and STi and couldn't agree more. The 4G63 alone I think puts it above.

[@staypeachy7837]

Yeah same i though the Evo should have won the performance

[@cjay1824]

@@spiders_8792 facts

[@cjay1824]

@A A in your dreams

[@tareqjawdat6401]

I likw how the japanese man bowed out of respect to the last car out of production line! those people are great! I respect their culture!

[@deejeh9494]

11:53

[@mwambak1438]

@@radattk3145 huh

[@momanskiakabiffbuz6004]

They have an unhealthy working culture, working 12+ hours a day

[@porcelainkoi]

@@momanskiakabiffbuz6004 yeah they have some great culture in some areas, and in others… not so much . Sad to see

[@skirmishcustoms2595]

There are negatives and positives to all cultures

[@ImJusDarius]

As a wrx owner whose dream car is an evo 9 they are very equal in my books no one car is better then the other and that rivalry becoming a brotherhood has made it 10 times better seeing both of these cars on the road on the east coast

[@HYSTERIA-we6fg]

For me this comes down to aesthetics which silhouette you prefer which one sounds better to you becuase they are so similar especially the older ones and I'm an evo guy the Evo 8 and 9 are my favourite.

[@Grooove_e]

Me: A Bugeye owner Video: Calls it ugly Me: Blows a vape cloud

[@nickdoe9307]

Grooove e bug eye is king 🤴

[@RMAJGaming]

wow very riveting and emotional experience i was just broth through when reading this comment. the up's, the down's... bring a tear to my eye... 11/10 would IGN again ps: the bugeye is like my second fav sti... blobeye is my 1st >~>

[@austingood5309]

Bugeye went sadeye :(

[@Emppu_T.]

It's the surprised one

[@agentstarkk]

I love the bugeye!

[@bikboi8768]

I love how both STi and Evo fans admire each others cars.

[@seanb9698]

As an STI owner I love when I see an Evo, and I don't hate but there is always this friendly rivalry type vibe

[@mikeskyguy55]

I use to like the STI but then I saw the EVOS an I fell in love with the EVOS butbi feel like this should have ended up in a tie

[@karlisozols5986]

"I daily FRS and track a Yaris" MCM: approved in Australian

[@Kurtage77]

I still love both cars. Does this mean there’s gonna be a Mustang VS Camaro episode? Haha

[@Donut]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@yeet-dd2xm]

@@Donut yes,do ferrari vs lamborghini

[@ritarossweisse_]

Interesting bro... Very interesting... 😏

[@ChipW]

@Leonel Ramirez .........again

[@TropaSoy_]

The camaro was built to beat the mustang the competiteion is wither it even is a competition😏😏😝

[@ianedmonds9191]

I had a passenger seat in an Evo 7 way back in the 2000s and I remember it being a bit terrifying. I was completely blown away by both the grip it had round roundabouts and also the crazy industrial noise of the BlowOff valve. I've driven faster cars since but nothing has been more visceral than that. The cornering speed the driver threw it in at was Insane but it worked. Luv and Peace.

[@donquixote2072]

Both cool cars, I think I'd go for a WRX one day if I could get one for a good price. I've always liked the Imprezza's rally legacy, and I hear that WRX's are far more comfortable to drive than EVO's.

[@tomy5885]

This must’ve been the most diplomatic car comparison I’ve ever seen. Clearly you’ve tried your best to not anger one group of fanboys and you have achieved that. No one can argue with the fact that the evo being out of production diminishes its attainability. Well done!

[@tomisz120]

This “ Car Versus Car” will be it’s own segment right? Because it should.

[@Donut]

YES! What do you want to see us compare?

[@fabianmennel4478]

AMG vs. MPower vs. RS, would be nice

[@ashman198]

Supra vs R34?

[@yaboi6801]

@@Donut You should totally do Mustang vs. Camaro

[@dizzy8950]

@@Donut American performance vs Japanese

[@johnnykeller5186]

I work as a valet...and there's a biiiiiig difference between EVO and STI owners. People with EVO's tend to view valet as an imposition (self-park is extremely limited where I work) and will sneer if forced to valet. EVO owners also tend to take complements as being back-handed. STI owners usually don't have as foul an attitude as EVO owners, and are generally more willing to talk about their vehicles whereas EVO owners tend to take any questions you might have as if you're going to try to steal their car or like they have the secret to the universe and you're sniffing around for it.

[@dylanguidry7111]

Both of these cars are some of my dream cars! But the Subaru always sounded like a tuner ate a muscle car I swear but would love to either one for years..❤

[@J26G]

Donut Media: EVO vs STI Scotty Kilmer in his Celica: REV UP YOUR ENGINES!!!

[@ibnulbevan8020]

😂😂😂😂 He's been keeping his engine reving until his engine blows up😂

[@Mike604]

I read that in his horse voice

[@Crashryding]

Rod Miller’s old Pikes Peak Celica. F”ing MONSTER!! 1 of my favourite race cars of all time. Watched it in the Race to the Sky near Wanaka in New Zealand. Could hear it popping and squeaking all the way to the finish line from the bottom of the mountain. At the same time Monster Tajima has his Suzuki Vitara.... well the badge was from a Suzuki Vitara anyway

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

Good God, do people still watch that old fool?

[@kbrownfocus]

🤣🤣 You win forever 🤣🤣🤙🤙

[@pkgreatshpkg8206]

STI is widow, without having EVO by her side ! thats the most iconic duo anyone has seen in WRC

[@russotusso1695]

Eh 037 and Quattro are more iconic imo

[@pkgreatshpkg8206]

William Arrington I agree with you, I should edit the comment but I won’t as in my view EVO and STI were the standard to the purpose build cars , when they were in WRC and the same on models are on the roads everywhere. People have a lot of control to these cars to tune for rally by themselves . Audi / ford the cars on the read are not same the one from rallies.

[@msgretrogamer]

Owned a Subaru type RA and it absolutley smashed all comers at scooby shootout 2004, including a 1000bhp skyline over a quarter mile. Apart from a straight through exhaust, a slight boost upgrade and a prodrive ecu it was stock.

[@jojipowell2546]

I remember seeing an Evolander (Evo and Outlander mix) concept car at the Philly auto show years ago and remember thinking how cool that was. It looked great and I don't know why Mitsubishi never actually produced it.

[@hazwanhaizan1465]

Conclusion: STI and Evo are great. Just pick up which one you like.

[@AK-mh4zb]

No, the STI is way better

[@lilchad-ig1oj]

Hazwan Haizan one is still made and updated One isn’t made anymore and won’t be updated

[@unidentifiedcarguy9121]

@@AK-mh4zb keep dreaming lol

[@interceptingfist5682]

@@AK-mh4zb LMAO no it's not. The EVO makes power waaaay easier. No contest.

[@davewsh8434]

Not an video like this

[@tormenmashi_]

Let the fanboy wars begin but seriously though 2 word: personal prefrence Edit: y'all really started debating under my comment

[@despair5195]

tormenmashi_ evo is better

[@drakevillarreal3602]

@@despair5195 damn right it is

[@antonc108]

The western world does not know how the Evo is just way more ingrained and valued than STI in Asian lands, in many movies ie the snippets of Jackie Chan's Thunderbolt shown, and several others, the Evo is always the hero car.

[@crimescene25]

@@despair5195 i own a 2017 wrx sti and both are great cars. What do you drive?

[@floof4444]

@@crimescene25 honestly I think the evo is better in terms of styling. However both are good cars

[@Hoodhitta]

I have a stock 09 Lancer I want to build up, but I had a crush on this STI I was playing with on I-70 🥰

[@daniilsubbotin]

Scrolled thru dozens of comments here and gave a thumb up to everyone regardless. Cheers from 2022, I'm driving an STi 08 hatch but would love to also own an Evo... Love u guys, 👋

[@ranellecantos]

Basically 80% of the comments are Evo guys. I'm an evo fan too so what's up. Evo wins for me tho. But respect to the sti

[@ranellecantos]

Yeah. It's a hard choice battle but people have different likes. Still STi's are fantastic. I like them both. But evos have a special place in my heart

[@feraldart]

It isn't disrespect to Subie to point out the flawed logic in this video.

[@Anywho22]

The evo gives more power then the sti if modded right

[@sgsjake3904]

I’m a neither guy, I wouldn’t buy either car. But the Evo is simply better 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@austinturner5183]

Hes just inbred. Mustang beat Camaro lmao his a chromosone too short

[@WintersHarmony7474]

I hate what Mitsubishi has been doing to their classics. "The Eclipse? Turn it into an SUV. The EVO everyone loves and that we just stopped production of? Let's make that an SUV too." I love you Mitsubishi, but you gotta stop.

[@danoV1c]

I can't wait for the gallant monster truck or a 3000 GT-Cross, honestly I would love to see a hybrid i4 turbocharged EVO XI, that would be an interesting take on the Lancer brand and would give mitsubishi its identity of not being scared to innovate and change

[@danoV1c]

But right now it looks like it's going fucking downhill

[@schizofennec]

@@danoV1c a hybrid evo if done right could be very fast, ev motors give lots of torque and you could electric turbo the intake.

[@ReubenHorner]

Mitsubishi has died a long time ago

[@jaron4750]

There's a Lancer Evo crossover?

[@Dbo3fly]

I would love to get my hands on either of the two.

[@TZPK]

Coming back to this it still hurts but I’m still an Evo fan! Lest we never forget!

[@Tavian.]

*no bias but he dailies an FRS with a SUBARU ENGINE*

[@brother_maleik]

With a SUBARU everything

[@edgarmichaelperezruvalcaba7744]

Backwerds and also tracks a Yaris. So what’s your point ?

[@FermSingh]

I thought round 5 was going to be about which company did more during the Attack on Pearl Harbor.

[@ThatOnePizzaMan]

why would you think that?

[@e90baby]

SimpleCircuits Bruh Subaru wasn’t even around and even if it was it’d still be no question Mitsubishi seeing as they produced the worlds most agile fighter aircraft at the time of the attack 😂

[@TheKurtkapan34]

@@e90baby it was around, as Nakajima. Mitsubishi built the Zeroes but Nakajima made the torpedo bombers. don't know which one wins lol

[@schizofennec]

Mitsubishi used to make war planes but it didn't mean mitsubishi killed people the pilots did

[@gc2117]

So who wins? ;)

[@isaiasmacias1452]

Great vid!

[@craigsixta983]

I had an 03 evo 8 and a 05 WRX with vf22 turbo. Both were cool cars.

[@legodude666]

Umm, you guys forgot to mention something important: *COLIN MCRAE*

[@jaynjuguna]

preeeeeach!

[@damiantrujillo4695]

One Nation Under God COLIN BE THY NAME

[@elvis1745]

His name alone should have amounted to at least one more point in heritage.

[@llhokage0wnagell144]

until he lost 3 years in a row to the evo... my heart goes out to subies but the cars are so close its what led to such a competitive rivalry

[@LorenzoClara97]

Yes very important also... 8 years with subaru and 1 world championship.. Maybe worse than Vettel in Ferrari And i'm fucking italian

[@SeamTressGaming]

"Daily an FRS and track a Yaris" I love this new guy...

[@omarsantiago1010]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cristianflores9933]

I personally own a Subaru, but as growing up as a kid all the video games and movies I’ve watched I’ve seen subies and Evos (Mitsubishi) they are rlly great cars and look really cool. I respect all Evo owners even if they stopped making them a long time ago. Great vidoe by the way🔥🔥