Doom II - Bloodfalls II (Ultra-Violence 100%)

[@yumheart3835]

Jesus, I can't watch this video. I cringe at the thought of anybody having to play through this boring, bloated mess. Typical first-ever-map-bullshit, I'm sorry for submitting it.

[@decino]

You're your own worst critic. Despite its minor flaws, I found the map to be atmospheric and enjoyable. A lot of commenters also praised the map for its gritty visuals and the skybox. Don't be sorry. I thank you for your submission and wish you all the best with your future map-making endeavours. This was a great start.

[@anarki8911]

Hey man, you can and will improve if you put effort into learning what makes a good map. decino gave really good bits of advice in the vid, and you can also ask around in the community for help and you could also play some maps to see for yourself what does and doesn't work. for the time being you made a very atmospherical map with some gameplay flaws. I don't think that's a bad start at all. Hope to see some new stuff from you!

[@Xulgonoth]

Man, I was in your exact place just a year and a half ago. Everyone's first map is trash in their own eyes, but that just means you've already gained enough experience to do better next time. It took me almost exactly a year before I made my first map I could call decent and in the meantime all I was creating was complete garbage. But the important part is that I've learnt from my mistakes and ultimately became better at something I'm passionate about. You've already got a very solid start with your first map's geometry, and the encounter in the wooden box is actually pretty great. Just work on the monster placement in your next creation, try to always think about where each enemy will go in an encounter as you're creating the geometry, and if you try out a fight and it doesn't work, just redesign it. I think if you just persevere and keep creating, you'll become a very solid mapper.

[@seejay9467]

What are you talking about? Even if you think this map is bad, you should love it like your own baby. Because after this beautiful map, you will do much, much better surely. This is a very beautiful map, atmospheric and lovely. Good job and good luck in the future!

[@DylanBelievesInTheNet]

This is your first map?!? This is a great first go all things considered, the actual architecture and lighting is super cool, I like the monsters/player changing palettes whenever they're in colored lighting!

[@kulrigalestout]

"Don't you dare, Yarleigh". The Spider Mastermind halted her advance, glaring at her eternal rival and sometimes friend. "You don't even have hands," he chided, "you'll just step on it and ruin it". "I have hands, Orlaugh!" she roared. "Two! Plural! You have meaty stump and a rocket launcher, you'll crush it!" The Cyberdemon smiled at the reminder of his 'deformity'. "Why yes, I do have a rocket launcher in place of one of my useless hands. Yours, however, are attached to twigs. There's no way you can reach inside the box when you can't even reach past your chassis." It was Yarleigh's turn to smile at the reminder of her 'deformity'. "What? This chassis? The one that has a Super Chaingun conveniently mounted at the level of your exposed wiring?" Orlaugh noted the venom in her voice, the threat in her questions. He know that if he was to have the prize, he would have to take it in the same way he had all others; by force. "Such a shame this little get-together has to end on such a sour note," he growled, as he raised his weapon arm. "It was nice of you to buy," Yarleigh replied as she began to spin the barrels of her weapon, "but the last slice is mine. Die!"

[@revolutionstudios5052]

Spoken like a comment you’d find second-to-the-top on a post on r/writingprompts... and I dig it.

[@mysteriousstranger2287]

True poetry

[@axel2741]

Whenever doom guy looks down using mouse-look I always imagine him looking down the same way Master Shake looks down in aqua teen hunger force. As in all rotation comes from the waist; the upper body, head or neck doesn’t move and he just tilts his entire body to look up or down

[@conzmoleman]

lol

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Nice mental image.

[@De-M-oN]

Software Renderer issue. On a hardware renderer you dont have this problem GZDoom offers also a software rendering with mouselook like on a hardware renderer though

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@De-M-oN I tried that, but still prefer hardware accelerated with X/Y sprite billboarding. It looks great at all angles that are not too vertical.

[@De-M-oN]

@@DinnerForkTongue I prefer hardware renderer too. Its nowadays quite customizable too anyway.

[@kidshapeshifter8507]

Decino: Looks up Viewers: And I took that personally

[@doomerrasa8475]

I feel like this map had the same problem as that globglab map he played where it would have been better if he just... didn't include the sections that needed mouselook.

[@De-M-oN]

@@doomerrasa8475 If the map is designed with mouselook in mind and thus also balanced around it I see nothing wrong in requiring mouse look.

[@De-M-oN]

@@doomerrasa8475 That being said if you're that kind of purist who ignores everything else which isnt vanilla doom or boom compatible, you miss out actually a lot of great maps and also many great mods too. Some UDMF maps are a really, really impressive experience.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@De-M-oN 📠

[@doomerrasa8475]

In many cases for vanilla and vanilla-ish maps (like this one), fights that require mouselook can either be done perfectly fine without it or are just fundamentally obnoxious either way, mouselook or not. Like if the fight consists of some enemy sniping you from a million miles above you it doesn't matter whether or not the player is using mouselook that's still a pretty flawed fight concept - again, the globgglab treasure trove map Decino played earlier has a few examples of that. This map has some modified elements but overall mechanically it's mostly a vanilla experience, so it's not really an issue of purism or whatever you wanna call it. It's just a question of whether the mouselook-requisite fights add much. I personally do not think they do.

[@DuckAlertBeats]

I dunno, I think that giant Cyberdemon fighting the Spider Mastermind is one of the coolest things I've seen in Doom! I'm easily impressed though :)

[@iguana9173]

Me too

[@RobertKerbopolis]

Yeah its cool, the way the sprites work though makes it awkward. It looked like those giant missiles were right in front of him. I think it would be better if the mapmaker had made it so you see them through a window from a safe area, so the player could take it in without flinching.

[@benitezclanceiv]

@Talion Ranger skybox

[@dVaan]

The spider mastermind cheated on the cyberdemon with a baron of hell, obviously

[@RipRLeeErmey]

Ah, so it's less "Clash of the Titans" and more of "Domestic Violence of the Titans"?

[@dotcomgamingd5564]

damn lol imagine finding out you got cheated on by someone a third of your size

[@StarmaGeddon]

it was clearly the other way around

[@hqppyfeet7513]

The cyberdemon and the mastermind are basically brother and sisters. They fight each other until their parents come or until one starts to cry loudly. The thing is... they don't have any parents, and they never cry... so it's basically an infinite loop of tickling and fighting.

[@ArDeThSuNjEkOl]

Spider MM: I said use the music from Bloodfalls! Cybie: But this track is from Blood!!! Y'know. Blood. For Bloodfalls??? Spider MM: THAT CONTINUITY MAKES NO SENSE

[@umbaupause]

Fun Fact: Romero himself didn't like this map. It lagged his game too much, and it 'looked like christmas'. Nah he never said that, he's too busy probably working on SIGIL 2 or something.

[@WaterCrane]

I think "it lagged the game too much and it 'looked like christmas'." was the original complaint of the BFG in Doom's original alpha before it was changed to its current form.

[@De-M-oN]

Also a new mapset for Doom 2 would be actually epic if Romero would do that!

[@WaterCrane]

@@De-M-oN Considering he made Sigil and re-imaginings of Command Center and Phobos Anomaly, I wonder if he prefers the original Doom over Doom II. Granted, it's easier to make smaller packs with Doom - with Doom II you're kind of compelled to make 32 full levels. I hope he does make a Doom II pack though - the game has an incredible monster roster and there's nothing to stop him from making Doom-style levels as opposed to Doom II-style levels.

[@De-M-oN]

@@WaterCrane yes doom 2 has better variety and Doom 2 has a Super Shotgun :D

[@alibalous5510]

12:10 ah yes. A pro gamer move. Shitting the floor.

[@liamaldrich2476]

Playthroughs are baaaaack!! As popular as your yellow background videos are, this is the content that I most enjoy from you

[@tyrrell8077]

been waiting for this one, any DOOM 2 re-imagining in any way is everything

[@n3onkn1ght]

Ultimate Doom 2 is a banger. Its re-interpretation of the abstract, nonsensical "The Inmost Dens" as a crumbling railyard/brick warehouse was amazing.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@n3onkn1ght Ultimate Doom 2? Is it a released wad?

[@n3onkn1ght]

@@DinnerForkTongue It's in development. It has about 20-ish levels done. You need to get it from the zDoom forums, I think, since it doesn't have a Doomwiki page.

[@arrashishiv1591]

Finally i get my decino fix.

[@Ben_of_Langley]

Yeah definitely lol

[@Nonebit]

Too many elevated areas with monsters on this one, now we can finally see mouselook on from your play style

[@jpa3974]

The fight between the two is due to an earlier argument where Spider Mastermind says that Doom is 2D but Cyberdemon can swear it is 1.5D because of the stairs.

[@taazhd2]

That Cyberdemon Spidermastermind fight started over an argument they had on whether or not Decino's blind run video are better than the practiced ones!

[@velocilevon]

Love how in the thumbnail there's a lone imp, standing in the huge pile of other imps' corpses, staring at the Doomguy and acting like he's some kind of ubersoldier, ready to kick ass :D

[@doomdood]

be honest you only played this level for the giant cyberdemon cheeks

[@n00f]

Interesting map, but one thing bothered me which I felt sullied the whole experience. How the hell are you supposed to focus on imps at 21:10 when you're distracted with those massive cheeks?

[@navyman4]

This map should win an award of some kind! VERY unique mood. It's kinda scary in novel ways. The things on this map are new. Haven't seen DOOM done like this before.

[@emekoo1027]

Atmosphere in this wad is amazing! I just love your stuff. Longer the video is, more I like it. Thank you for your job! Your content never bores me!

[@troglodyte1378]

You are one of the few people that can turn the bloody carnage of DOOM gameplay into a relaxing ASMR

[@HAYLO_TWO]

I got to hand it to you Decino, you've been able to create a full fledged thriving YT channel off of classic Doom videos while keeping it quality content and youre shedding light on amazing wads that were once forgotten as well. I have to say big respect to you dude. I never would have thought that more than just a handful of peoples intrest in classic doom would return the way it has. Yes I know the new Doom games play a bigger role but still keep it up man! I miss the days when there were always tons of people on the Zdaemon servers playing CTF & Deathmatch, even COOP.

[@jamespwoods4324]

For older gamers like me what came first or the original form will always be the best it's like classic eras of tv shows like The Bill say 1989 - 1993 that time the world was a far different time than now and a time I genuinely miss like growing up with shows like Round The Twist as a kid in Australia yeah I am lucky and have been in many ways.

[@purplekey9330]

Honestly I wanna say I really kinda liked the vibe of this map. And if this really is your first map then damn, that's miles better than mine. I really liked the skybox fight, like it gave this neat surreal feel. Keep at it man, I'm sure you'll make some great stuff

[@theumashablepotato5349]

Nobody: The doctor after giving the patients hands back but he forgot something: 2:55

[@stephengorin5131]

"Well, uh, well, yeah." That sums the situation up pretty well.

[@johnromero1029]

Cyber Demon refused to pay alimony, for the seven thousand baby spiders.

[@Nk-yt7qt]

decino: i fear no demon decino: but that thing... *nervousily looks at the rocket* decino: it scares me

[@GrubbJunker]

30:00 There was just a huge doomguy in the sky and he walked between them, making them infight.

[@jarekuntermann2742]

I know this has been said lots of times, but that background though I love the sound of Imps blowing into gibs in the morning, have a good day Decino!

[@markdowse3572]

@ 0:18 Wooooooowwwww. ✨ That view into The Abyss is brilliant! 👀👍 The blood red and the toxic green swords are amazing. I hope the rest of the map is as captivating visually and in game play. I hope you have a great run, Mr decino. 🙏 M 🦘🏏😎

[@lauster2789]

You don't know how happy I feel when you upload

[@MarphitimusBlackimus]

In maps that allow mouselook, I decline the suggestion to use it anyway to show utter defiance against the heretical ways of the map author. In many cases, you'll find it was a wholly unnecessary recommendation on the part of the creator's blasphemous choices.

[@decino]

Don't boolly the map author like that smh my head.

[@momibatool8352]

Cmon man don't bully him no one wants to be a bully\bullied

[@doom4life451]

Now you are being unnecessarily exaggerative and tough about that inclusion. For most Plutonia level players it is much needed and appreciated.

[@n3onkn1ght]

"heretical ways" I see what you did there.* * _Mouselook was added for Heretic/Hexen compatibility._

[@demogorgonzola]

Marphy, don't **look down** on this feature, not all Doomguys have arthritis. ;-)

[@protectorofillinois3]

HOLY SHIIIIIIT! This custom-designed level is INTENSE! DA BOMB! I also love the Cyberdemon and the Spider Mastermind fighting each other continuously. WOW! No wonder I couldn't find this mod.

[@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon]

Always love to see Blood music used in Doom maps. The tracks often work well. Especially in this one!

[@Wagonman5900]

If I had to hazard a guess on the sky box fight, it was probably over Coke vs. Pepsi.

[@momibatool8352]

Damm two videos in one day good job keep up the good work.

[@Ben_of_Langley]

Just got back home from walking the dog and brilliant a new decino video. I'm currently up to the part with the cyber demon and spider mastermind sky box at first it looked like the demons were watching it lol. Unfortunately I've got loads to do today so as this video is 40 minutes long I'm going to watching it in bits which is fine by me because it means in between what I'm I can watch more of this lol. For now though cheers for the upload. I'll give any final opinions at the end on a reply to this comment.

[@Ben_of_Langley]

Yeah so I'm at the end I can only guess that the spider mastermind got called a nerd by the cyber demon and after the spider mastermind said well your rocket launcher doesn't make sense and it sucks they ended up in a eternal battle lol. As for the map itself I have mixed feelings about it to be honest. I think you could have used half the amount of demon's mixed up the demons in each fight instead of using waves of the same demon's like the imps for example but thrown in some clever fights as well just to keep it mixed up and interesting however if these kinds of maps are your thing then I could see this being really fun so by all means I don't think it's bad just me personally it's not my kinda thing I found that I'm moving more towards fights that are done in clever ways that make you think about how to get through them. All in all though it's not bad looks like it could be fun so cheers for the upload

[@kouron]

For some reason the scybox reminds me of a cinema screen. Accordingly, my headcanon is that doomguy is raiding a giant cinema complex for demons, the big imp groups are just waiting for their movie to start.

[@MrEvilbyte]

decino: Look at all this colorful lighting. I thought Christmas was over. Me: I'm glad some people have retained their sense of humor lately xD

[@davethefoxmage5797]

The music and that first room made me think a lot of the original Marathon game. The music had the feel of the first level, and the first room was very reminiscent of the "Waldo World Arena" multiplayer map. I'd love to see more from this mapmaker. :-)

[@altezzayk0133]

I really liked the music! Creepy but very interesting Great video!!! :)

[@nokatpalac5568]

Even to this day Doom feels like a movie that a game was made of.Even if the game is old you feel like a main character in it.

[@n3onkn1ght]

It is. It was meant to be an _Aliens_ game, but the license cost too much and/or was too limiting, so they just tossed in a bunch of stuff from a tabletop roleplaying session they were doing at the time.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@n3onkn1ght Alongside plenty of slightly modified and compressed Creative Labs SFX and metal songs. And it worked beautifully.

[@codyvangogh8111]

That skybox is actually so cool! I think with a little tweaking it could really work to great effect!

[@Schw4rzesAuge]

I think the skybox is a very cool idea and i never saw something like that before. So i appreciate it.

[@GrayGhost818]

*Me about to go to bed at 4:00am* *decino puts up a 40min vid* Cmon man! xD

[@MemeComicsDotCom]

Happy Saturday Decino

[@floeckchen666]

Dat skybox looks amazing

[@doom0666]

This looks like a fun map. I didn't think a Bloodfalls would have a sequel. Plus the Blood music works good for this map

[@davidenwah3413]

Just finished work and saw this. Perfect.

[@bLUe-gx9dt]

same lmao

[@CrestlineIceberg]

Bloodfalls is my favorite level in Doom 2 and to see this with the music from Blood being played in the background looks so fitting. If I ever play this level, I think I enjoy it a lot.

[@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883]

Do you know the name of that particular track?

[@CrestlineIceberg]

@@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883 It's The Overlooked Hotel. That might not be the name of it from the MIDI soundtrack but I know it's used in E2M4.

[@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883]

@@CrestlineIceberg Awesome, thanks!

[@Hybridtheory2007]

"Let's kill the doorman" I have no idea why I laughed so much at that

[@TheLetterJ0]

At first, I thought the the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind were actual enemies that the map maker had found a way to enlarge or project images of. I was a bit disappointed to learn that it was just an image on the skybox. I also thought it looked like the other demons were just watching them, like some demonic pay-per-view fight, which also seems pretty cool.

[@n3onkn1ght]

They are real enemies. The map author used SkyViewport to turn the room holding them into the skybox.

[@johndobersworth4224]

A level with a Blood midi is the closest thing we will ever see to Decino actually playing Blood.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Very true.

[@jordanwolfson8378]

I hope there's a new Plutonia 2 vid soon, we're almost at the end!

[@iguana9173]

I’m sure the new video will be completely soon. I hope.

[@Robomorons]

So glad we could get the Christmas special done early this year.

[@maiyannah]

The coloured lighting is pretty hard on the eyes here, especially after its been through youtube's encoding.

[@stayhydrated4113]

this has gotta be the best looking doom map ive seen in forever

[@KingCapybara93]

That skybox was a stroke of genius! Now I wanna see one with like 10 archies infighting

[@r9compsftbl]

Finally you played it its my favorite level!

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

pro d00m gamer tip: if you use the smallest HUD setting in GZDoom, you can see whether you have berserk or not

[@geoffreywilson7008]

I must be watching too much Decino, I was thinking there was too much health lying around 'before' we got to the wall of healthpacks.

[@HeussG09]

Why were they fighting? SpiderMastermind said every map should have mouselook. CyberImp wasn't having any of that BS.

[@user-u64251o]

hey ducino, have any plans in playing "Ancient Aliens" for the future videos?

[@decino]

Definitely.

[@AltAlkis]

​@@decino Imagine telefragging Cyberdemon in the first map haha lmao (But it's really good news about this amazing wad)

[@user-u64251o]

@@decino then that's something to be excited about. i find AA extremely challenging. cannot wait lol.

[@nbrocx4216]

@@user-u64251o imo, if you played Sunlust or Stardate before you played Ancient Aliens, you probably won't find AA to be that challenging. That is not to say that AA is not fun. It's my 2nd favourite wad, after Valiant, and the music by Stuart Rynn is phenomenal. But, I think decino may not find it as enjoyable, challenge/difficulty wise, as Sunlust or Swim with the Whales, especially after having played God Machine. Let's see. Hopefully ducino can prove me wrong when he actually gets to play AA.

[@decino]

@@nbrocx4216 Challenge doesn't always equal fun.

[@AlexanderWilithinIII]

The Cybdermon and Mastermind are fighting over if it's wrong to use mouselook in classic doom.

[@southpakrules]

A compilation of viewers bad submissions would be fun.

[@cmfrtt]

The giant cyberdemon and spider mastermind are not too happy about your last video, they are both trying to prove their THICCNESS

[@creaturetypesorcery]

The Visuals were great in this one. And i like mouselook :D

[@curt3354]

I've never seen this skybox implementation before it's interesting.

[@matt.604]

They are fighting because she stole his butterfinger!

[@dinitroacetylen]

So, a "worthy successor" to a map nobody remembers. I really have to wonder how much of a compliment this is. And the skybox? You and the rest of the demons were shrunk to toy size by the Great God Imp (yep, in my headcanon this is a sequel to The Sky May Be) in order to provide fun for his temperamental niece and nephew. And of course the two are fighting over who gets to squash you.

[@hfc2x]

They were fighting because the Spider did a huge brain take and said Brutal Doom was the best Doom mod ever made, and Chadberdemon of course was having none of it.

[@csucskos]

Wow! I know I compare everything to Okuplok, but that map had a huge impact on me. I've always thought about Doom maps as tiny floors like Doom 2's Map01, or Doom's Hangar. Tiny corridors, always cramped. But that map showed to me that slaughter maps are a thing, huge clumps of the same enemy type and you just have to figure out the strategy. So funny because a good slaughter map is a puzzle map imo. Anyways why I said this? Yeah, so I love Okuplok's untitled 2, but it has it's flaws, for example it does not look too interesting. But this map! Ohh boy, the aesthetics are on point! And the final review... I truly appreciate it, I've just started mapping, so it's really helpful to see how others approach mapbuilding and what do the players think about it. So I hope in my maps I can avoid making the same mistakes. Cheers!

[@dishshammy6985]

i use mouselook in doom 1 and doom 2... but whenever i watch decino playing with mouselook on, it feels like cursed.

[@vatsalmamgain5069]

In GamingGargoyle channel, Cybie accidently killed the Spidey. So, they are having a life long beef.

[@TheRuinsfate]

10:03 I wonder if the imps in the pit feel the same way about your rockets flying overhead as you do about the skybox ones from earlier?

[@ChefSalad]

Around 26:40, Decino pointed out a soft-lock and suggested that it be fixed with a lift or a teleporter. It could also be fixed with a 20 damaging floor. For extra annoyance, have it filled with invulnerabilities. That's what I'd do. At least it wouldn't be a soft-lock anymore. "Pop all the imple-pimples! Pop all the imple-pimples!" Now you have that rhyme stuck in your head, too. You're welcome.

[@Omnicrom]

So i'm just going to assume the skybox is actually the projection on a demonic iMax and you just Doomguy'd a movie theater.

[@nathannavega5899]

Everytime I watch you it makes me want to play classic doom

[@452jman]

A very Cinematic feel to the whole map. It seems pretty chill for a slaughter map, but entertaining 🙂

[@zoolapin]

the background of the spider mastermind vs the cyberdemon is cool

[@natedigger5678]

the spider mastermind drank the cyberdemon's health potion

[@dt2phillips]

That everlasting fight between the Spired Mastermind and Cyberdemon was entirely a mirage in the sky.

[@iguana9173]

Me looking at the thumbnail: what the hell why is the spider mastermind so huge? Then I realize that was a sky background that was cool.

[@НариманЭ-ш3м]

Wonderful preview

[@Nieveria]

that is one absurd amount of imps i love it

[@eriksotelo6920]

I’m from Mexico 🇲🇽 Your channel is awesome 😎

[@Bgf2012]

Decino, Christmass was never over

[@kenhaze5230]

Loving the Paper Mario enemies with mouselook enabled. Never thought about that ahead of time even though I knew mouselook existed in source ports.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

At least in GZDoom here, you can male them less paper-like by switching the sprite billboarding to X/Y axis. They look a lot more like software mode sprites, it's nice.

[@kentuckybruce6816]

That imp in the thumbnail looks mildly displeased at you slaughtering hundreds of its brethren

[@iguana9173]

Yes he does lol.

[@ChrisJEPlace]

28:10 When I saw you trying to find the last secret after seeing the exit switch, I thought that was going to be the last 10 minutes of the video.

[@LoserHands]

they're fighting because she left the keys up on the table

[@bazboo1284]

That opening room is beautiful

[@bentilbury2002]

I liked the Cyberdemon vs Mastermind fight at the demon drive-in, but it was freaking distracting!

[@MateDrinker33]

My first impression of the "unique" skybox was that the "real" Mastermind and the Mancubi were all standing around watching "Godzilla-style" movies in Hell, lmfao! Thanks for uploading! :D

[@DoomGuy9001-MK4]

@27:30 checks if you have berserk by punching the air. Hmm, the air seems to have taken more damage the usual, not too sure.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

26:48 Central has 3 options to fix this easily: 1) make the stone wall sector a lift 2) put in a teleporting switch on the inside wall 3) raise the blood pool within so you can climb over the wall I thought the skybox was meant to be a cinema screen at first 😆

[@HeussG09]

4am my time, already up way too late, about to sleep, *new decino video*. Welp, sleep is overrated.

[@jamespwoods4324]

Yeah wait till you're old and tired pal like me 😂

[@haosultist]

Interesting to see decino dislike the skybox duel and imp spawning pool setpieces. But i guess he's more of a puzzle guy. For me, those were the most interesting parts. Also, shout out to the 2-cyberdemon-baron-hellknight fight, rooms that endorse infighting are always fun!

[@PorscheAddict]

29:55 decino walked into a room and saw the spider lady and cy-bro, butt punched the cyber boy and SR50'd away, cyber boy felt the ass slap, turned around and "shots fired" was called..the rest is history and you can see it on the "big screeen"