Double Tubing your Dirt Bike tire?

[@TheCarlejoseph]

Great idea and better then just throwing away the old tube!

[@endurodz]

Thank you Jay, the 1st and the only video in the internet on How to Double Tube.

[@dirtbiketv1]

Glad to help

[@endurodz]

@@dirtbiketv1 in case of a heavy duty tube. We use 4mm. Is it needed to do this cause its very rare to have a flat ?

[@3BrothersExtreme]

This works for bicycles as well. It provides extra protection against the pinhole thorn leaks that my kids always seem to find.

[@dirtbiketv1]

Yes did it for the kids everytime they got a thorn :-).

[@yellowveedub]

I learned how to change tires by watching Jay's videos.

[@Papparratzi]

Great tip. One thing id mention as a Tubliss user. Yes lower pressure usually makes the tread last longer, but the lower pressure makes the carcass weaker over time. Not only does that negatively effect performance, it also makes the tire more prone to punctures and increases the chance of an impact bending the rim. Just keeping it real

[@MrBeefsnorkel]

would you say going with heavy doody tubes is the best medium then? instead of running tubliss and running em' til the sidewalls go weak from running super low psi?

[@briansmale5457]

Maybe it's because i'm down here, but when i was told about about double tubing in the 70's, what we did was only double up on the part of the tube that sits against the spokes. The theory was, when the tyre/tube compressed against the spokes this is what punctured the tube.

[@robtoole1480]

Great video of an old idea. We always use this method in the front of our ATeam Hard Enduro bikes and have finish Revlimiter like this when our rear Bib failed. I have been lubing my tubes like a Bib with silicone grease to reduce any chance of a pinch flat also run slime to help with the punchers.

[@roberto3262]

If you can cram enough of those old tubes in there, then you won't even need air 👍

[@sanjosejeff]

Nice tip. I still think I’ll continue to run tubliss but always nice to add to my knowledge base

[@Colorado-Tinkering]

Thank you Jay for another great vid on tire changing. The more I watch yours the more I “get it”. Seriously. I was one of those dual sport riders who would struggle for hours sometimes with a stiff new tire. Making your tire stand today and looking forward to becoming “that guy” who changes their buddy’s tires in exchange for beer or other gifts. 😏

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

I do this. You mention doing it on rear, do you Also do front as well? Typically not as many pinch flats on front, but I do it anyway

[@stangindude99]

Would you recommend a double tube setup like this over a heavy duty or ultra heavy duty?

[@dirtbiketv1]

Email me-- contact info in About tab and bio on instagram

[@thomaslemay8817]

This is an old technique, I first used it in the 1950s , but I have always called it a tire liner. In one situation I cut the beads off an old tire and used it to line a tire.

[@dirtbiketv1]

Very cool

[@brianh8484]

I do this on my mousse bibs after they shrink and get soft so I can get another tire or two out of them. Works good. Saves me a few bucks

[@niels3426]

How mutch presure do you recomend for track riding. Love your video's from belguim.

[@dirtbiketv1]

12-13 range for most tracks

[@niels3426]

@@dirtbiketv1 thanks

[@woodworm3615]

4:18 Great Idea! Now really go to Greece....Zakinthos on Loginos Street and relax. Beer is on me ok. Good Video Nasa Engineer!

[@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567]

I have also ran 2 tires together for snow. Have less air but has bite.

[@WillysPerformanceCycleCtr]

Great idea that adds another level of protection! Too simple, never thought of trying this. Thanks and you make changing the tire look easy... lol... ride safe my friend...

[@dirtbiketv1]

Thank you. And I was born 1969 so that’s kinda cool. 😁

[@WillysPerformanceCycleCtr]

Dirt Bike TV ....... I was 15 in 1969, that’s the 3rd year of riding for me and I started working on all my friends motorcycles that summer! Opened a repair shop and kept all the local bikes running. By the time I was 20 I had become a Bultaco dealer and re-sold new Suzuki’s for a dealer 60 miles away! We raced primarily enduro, but quiet a bit of motocross just for the practice on the off weeks. Still ride both off and on road. Never plan to quit. I still buy “garage finds” (abandoned bikes), repair / restore, then resell them. Lots of fun. Really enjoy your channel. Thanks for the great ideas related to KTM... and other general topics like the double tube idea!!!

[@robh3267]

That's a good alternative I just use a really heavy duty tube at 9 lbs of pressure and never get flats the tubes are quite heavy though.

[@dirtbiketv1]

Right on

[@OldestYoungenInGuidePost]

Back in the late 90"s we used to get the tires from a lady's bikes known as a "Shopper" ., it's a folding bike, with 3 speed sturmey-archer gearshift We used to cut the beads off the tyre and put them inside of our BMX tyre so that our bikes wouldn't get a puncture, Made the wheels a little more heavy 🤷🏻‍♂️ But we still had fun 👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼

[@griffithracingteam2412]

Cant beat hunter engineering when it comes to tire lube and tools

[@rcarle]

Great video Jay. Thanks for double tubing mine last time.

[@dirtbiketv1]

Glad to help

[@jonnoMoto]

That saved my bacon in 12hr race after multiple punctures as I was down to my last spare tube. A helpful marshall gave me that tip.

[@dirtbiketv1]

Very cool

[@GalinPanchev]

Thank you for that video. I came here after a couple of hours searching for that procedure. My intent is to do the same on my ebike. I'm curious why don't you use tubeless and what are the main positives of double tubing?

[@dirtbiketv1]

prevent pinch flats-- cheaper than tubeless and less hassle

[@GalinPanchev]

@@dirtbiketv1 that's my main concern since I managed to pinch flat a tubeless tire. I'll try that, thanks again.

[@robertallen5358]

Never seen this before and I hate to criticize anyone but it's very important if you change a flat to check the inside of the tire for sharp objects stuck in the tire that can puncture the new tube if not removed . Thorns can break off and you will not find it unless you feel the inside of the tire .

[@mikeerdman4831]

This is one of your best videos

[@dirtbiketv1]

Glad you like it

[@ktmrider714a]

making it look easy as always

[@mxcollin95]

I always wait to tighten the rim lock until after I’ve seated the tire and after I’ve reduced the air pressure to normal operating pressure. The reason I wait until I’ve reduced the tire pressure to normal operating pressure is so that the rim lock bites down on the tire where the tire would normally sit properly inflated. Anything wrong with doing it that way? (I think you set the normal tire pressure after you tightened up the rim lock.) If I seat the tire, then tighten the rim lock down and then reduce the tire pressure to normal operating pressure often times it can make the exposed tire bead a bit uneven. Also, later when I go to replace a tube and pull one side of the tire off, I notice that the tire bead is always kinked where the rim lock bit down on the tire when I had high seating pressure in it. Therefore to me it seemed to make sense to tighten the rim lock down on the tire where the tire would normally sit under normal operating pressure. Is tightening the rim lock after setting normal tire pressure the wrong way to do it?

[@braapptorrr4630]

Are there industry standards for heavy duty vs super heavy duty thicknesses? If hd is 2mm and super hd is 3 in theory double tubing offers an extra mm of protection against punctures?

[@markalan4026]

When shopping for tires/tubes recently, I noticed Rockymountian has ultra heavy duty tubes which are 4mm thick, I thought that would most likely be overkill for my needs, and opted for the 3mm tubes instead... Plus I figured the extra weight and the added pita to install for an amateur like myself wouldn't be a good idea. Anyways, I'm wondering if going with the 4mm tubes to begin with, rather than double tubing would be the same, or better perhaps?.. I mean idk myself, but this guy seems to be quite knowledgeable about tires, so he'd be the one to know I suppose.

[@ManBikeSwag]

you look a little like our Prime Minister here in Australia Scott Morrison ;)

[@northernlightse3066]

Cool. Thanks Jay. Love all your vids.

[@streetrider11]

This must be what my friends ment when they where talking about using 2 rubbers

[@spencerclark2269]

This is sweet. I’m definitely gunna use this next time I change my tire.

[@dirtbiketv1]

Go for it!

[@simplejackenduro]

Another stellar video Jay. Do you use that same paste for lubing up Mousse inserts?

[@dirtbiketv1]

NO - you need more of a grease lube type- this one dries too quickly--

[@HansZuerner918]

"If you don't double check you will forsure be off" most accurate statement i have ever heard when it comes to changing a tire 😂👌🏻

[@christianwilliams1136]

Have you ever tried the Baja no pinch tool, if so what is your take on it?

[@dirtbiketv1]

I have not. I think for me and the system we do it’s better to just do as you see I the video. If you don’t do very many very often then maybe the tool could be a bigger help.

[@saraclark8966]

This was very informative- where do I buy a tire changing stand??

[@dirtbiketv1]

I will do a video soon.

[@roberto3262]

GOOGLE it bud. There's a ton of them. "Dirt bike tire changing stand". Easy peasy! 😎

[@ExploringCabinsandMines]

at the store

[@saraclark8966]

@@roberto3262 Not one I saw when I "GOOGLEd" it looked like the one he is using....duh I know how to google

[@saraclark8966]

@@ExploringCabinsandMines Which store? I checked Chaparral and MotoSport but neither one had something as sturdy looking as what this guy is using. I'll wait for him to give up the details on a decent one and not some cheap stand that will break.

[@chrisvozza6530]

Very nice gonna have to try this👍👍

[@Hanibul_Lecktor]

Side note: always find your cause of flat. If something is inside the tire, that caused the puncture and you assume it's a pinch flat. You just wasted your time and another tube.

[@markalan4026]

Would going with the 4mm thick tubes offer the same benefits as double tubing? Is this just an alternative?

[@dirtbiketv1]

Email me with questions. Contact info in About tab.

[@jesseleblanc989]

Excellent video! Thank you!

[@dirtbiketv1]

Glad you liked it!

[@AndrewBoundy]

Great video. I'm waiting for some genius to invent a pressurized foam to turn intertubes into mousses :)

[@bryson_stafford]

Awesome video. I have never tried this method before, but I think I will.

[@wideopenmx850]

Any tips on getting the bead to set easier after the tire is installed? I lube the bead beforehand but sometimes I feel like I’m gonna pop the tube cause I have to put so much air in it to set

[@dirtbiketv1]

If its wet with the lube we use it pops right on with high pressure compressor -

[@dans8149]

You dont have to worry about a pop of the tube I have taken it up to past 60psi and it didn't pop. That was a ultra HD 4mm Tube.. Once had issue with compressor got stuck on valve had to run and take it off on other end it blew up the size of a tube you take down the river :) only had 1 flat in 9 years of riding ultra HD 4mm tubes. They are heaver but work well

[@csiautodetail]

forgive my ignorance but what are the zip ties for?

[@dirtbiketv1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZK3maJqjLSVm5I it was a trail fix on our flat

[@csiautodetail]

thanks, I will carry some from now on!

[@jasminebebe3455]

I wish I could change out my tires as efficiently as you lol.

[@madman432000]

Heavy or extra heavy tube for liner and normal or lightweight tube for the inflater? If you ran 3 rim locks you wouldn't need the ZIP ties. I have some of the heavy ones for ductwork but wouldn't want to carry them with me while riding.

[@handendaer]

u wouldnt need feed tube if just inflating it some.. another good tip would be to check for sharp things poking through or just lose in there. then u dont fk up ur spare too.

[@dirtbiketv1]

Yes-- usually nothing but I guess I should have checked-- Not like bicycles where the thorn stays-- it takes something massive to get through a dirt bike tire so usually never anything left. especially after riding it ten miles out.

[@paul.vanhout57]

You make tire installs look easy😀. Opinion on bib mousse as an alternative?

[@dirtbiketv1]

$$ is the main reason -- then hassle -- If racing and must finish then that is a better option.

[@prestonthomas9406]

I didn’t see JAY check for pointy things stuck in the tire from the previous flat that could puncture his new double tube setup. My 2 cents.

[@jordanonofer3886]

How did he get flat in first place with double tube lol

[@dirtbiketv1]

Nope-- it was a single tube as you can see in the video-

[@jordanonofer3886]

@@dirtbiketv1 it is a neat idea

[@roberto3262]

@@jordanonofer3886 it was a single tube. He hadn't had a flat yet, to get that second tube.... heh heh heh!

[@wfodavid]

I'm a Bib. guy. The dats of flats are gone.

[@andrecontois8510]

No checking for thorns or whatever caused the original leak come on your supposed to be a pro dude. Snakebite pinch flat would be fine but I would need to know before putting it back together. Double tube with junk still stuck in the tire or tube isn't going to last. I hope it does for u though!

[@dirtbiketv1]

That was almost two months ago and still holding strong -- Thanks!

[@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567]

I use to do that with my mtb and bmx.

[@jasoncarter411]

Thanks bro!

[@Shecki603]

Jay, do you have a recommendation for a quality rim lock that holds well? Trying to run Bridgestone ultra HD tubes down to around 5-8 psi and I've been getting some tire slip and don't want to chance sheering the valve stem. Thanks.

[@vernfeltman29]

Motion pro lite locks work well and are very light.

[@nvmcrider8475]

Always nice to see new ideas, but seems easier just to run a mousse and be guaranteed no flats.

[@dirtbiketv1]

Very true! this is a much cheaper option and also I can change tires easily-- Thanks!

[@nvmcrider8475]

Dirt Bike TV You have a great channel and I’ve learned quit a few tips and tricks from you...keep it up.

[@jotacalvo]

Watching you install a tire makes me feel so… inadequate 🤦‍♂️

[@razorbak6783]

Nice mod....I need to get me another dirt bike, haven't been on a dirt bike in 17 years. Street bikes are a whole lot better on the old back. Lol

[@Mrmizilplix]

Awesome

[@matbailey85]

Can you do this on a front?!

[@dirtbiketv1]

Yes - email us for more questions about it.

[@attilatoth9244]

If you do not put rocking powder or Vaseline in between, the rubber inside will vulcanize.🤷‍♂️

[@jeffhanson6844]

I wonder with two valve stem holes could you just fill the second tube as needed. Obviously you wouldn't split it.

[@jhackett9482]

I was just thinking the same thing. You could just air up and keep going on the new tube.

[@pauloconnor7951]

@@jhackett9482 Worth a try.

[@keenanleetodd]

Ive always done this

[@dirtbiketv1]

Cool

[@15205golfer]

Nice!

[@everywherelocal]

yeah! 🤘

[@DirtByk]

I have no experience with double tubing but I can see how easy it would be to get a little fold in the extra tube and it possibly pinching the pressurized tube. I think there are much better options than this and this method kind of goes right along with the mentality of laziness and not having tools (other than zip ties ) on the trail to fix the flat. IMO

[@dirtbiketv1]

Not lazy-- just dont like to carry extra weight-- I have enough of my own extra weight. Lets trail ride sometime and you can show me how you do it :-)

[@DirtByk]

KB3AOL M There are better options is all. I don’t know that this adds pinch flat protection but IMO could possibly create a pinch flat scenario. I’m only talking hypothetically here and could be totally wrong.

[@DirtByk]

Dirt Bike TV yeah I do go a little overboard with carrying tools, water, etc but then again I’m usually riding solo very remote. People pick up my pack and are like wth?? I know you’re not lazy, the builds you pump out are all next level. Would love to go trail riding sometime; how about some time between 9/16-22 in Idaho or Colorado. Open to suggestions on the specifics...

[@renogsx]

Just use tubliss or bibs.

[@dirtbiketv1]

They are not without issues and extra cost

[@grindlex9]

No baby powder?

[@dirtbiketv1]

No- the inside of the tube I cut has powder and since a gummy tire it wont be on too long- -if it was I would powder the inside of the tire-- It for sure is a good practice to do.

[@richardturner4950]

Double tube when you really want to avoid an unwanted pregnancy

[@mcragosta]

TUbliss?

[@dirtbiketv1]

No thanks-

[@bryanha79]

With tubliss you can plug it on the trail and be done in seconds.

[@keithncollins]

Is this the equivalent of using two condoms? Could the rubbers rub together and risk popping?

[@mxfreaks]

I always double tube when the women looks sketchy I mean the trail looks sketchy.

[@roberto3262]

But that's different than a "double bagger". Sometimes one paper bag just isn't enough. That falls under the "fugly" category 🤣

[@mxfreaks]

@@roberto3262 👍🤣🤣🤣

[@kirkwilliams4942]

Dang dude. love the channel but maybe clean these wheels before working on it.... yuck.

[@SublimeSkillz07]

YIKES!!! Can't see because it's a old dirty dusted rim. If it was a brand new rim I would not let this guy anywhere near it. There would be big chunks of scratches from the way he takes the tire off and on with the irons. The Rim Butcher.

[@dirtbiketv1]

LOL -- I usually dont respond to guys that write such nonsense but in this case I figured I would. I do 400 plus tire changes a year -- yes-- Then go to my site and check out my hundreds of magazine project builds all with new wheels and look for the butcher marks. Think your confusing my speed and confidence at changing tires as someone who doesn't care about the rims. Watch again and you will see I make no scratch or damage-- that is years of experience-- However, I am totally up for you giving me a lesson on how to do it better :-) I am in So cal and Utah areas a lot and would love to meet up to have you school me on how its done -- -

[@SublimeSkillz07]

Whoa easy there killer!! I'm just stating my opinion from what I observed. When there's no clearance between the tire bead and the edge of the rim and your shoving the tire iron in and out between them, your scratching the rim. That's why there's no mar tire changing machines. Again, I highly doubt from my observation that out of the "400 plus," tire changes you do a year, if you were to ask the owners I'm pretty sure a lot of them would not say their rim came out unscathed. And it's a good thing that you don't respond to guys that write such nonsense because you obviously can't take constructive criticism well. And your still not coming anywhere near my rim. LOL