Pamuk Scandal Uncovered | Downton Abbey

Robert Crawley discovers that Mary was involved in Mr. Pamuk's death.
From season 2 episode "Christmas at Downton Abbey": Christmas 1919. Downton Abbey is hosting a lavish Christmas party, yet despite being the season of goodwill, tensions are rife and Bates' arrest has cast a shadow over the festivities.
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[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

For a good 5 seconds there Robert must have thought Cora and Mary had assassinated Mr. Pamuk.

[@DeanMoxley87]

Ha yes

[@tsgumi]

That would be one hell of a storyline 😂😂

[@71gmf]

Oh! That would be a wonderful line to end the scene!

[@creativehorsequeen]

You can see it on his face at 1:53

[@markschroeter9565]

Honestly would you have thought so too? 😂

[@markschroeter9565]

Definitely one of Lord Grantham's greatest moments. Mary was hopelessly in a locked cage seemingly with no escape, but her father's words blasted the doors wide open and set her free.

[@patriciahurst8598]

Well said Mark, you amazing male Downton fan you!

[@angeldsouza777]

Couldn't agree more! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@AMD7027]

More than once Robert has been put in tight places and even though often cast as weak and indecisive, his forcefulness comes thru as when dealing with blackmailers twice and seeing them off with minimal sums and threats of legal consequences that he made clear he would back up.

[@sheilaburns8977]

@@AMD7027 Lord Grantham was a good man who made mistakes but, overall, he was a kind person, i.e. allowing Bates to stay, sending Mrs. Patmore to London for eye surgery, conceding to Sybil regarding her marriage to Tom, having a plaque made for Mrs. Patmore's nephew who died in the war, preventing Thomas from being arrested and so many other kind gestures.

[@jdmarr2259]

Lord Grantham is a big teddy bear who has fangs when necessary. I loved how he broke from tradition to save his daughter's happiness & helped her away from cutthroat Carlile.

[@debbiedaymoon6145]

"Oh Papa!" one of my favorite moments😍

[@taroman7100]

what? where she blathers on in suck up to papa crap.

[@KoiYakultGreenTea]

Joanie Adams she was surprised and relieved because her father has always been the hard ass and stickler for rules and his decisions final. So she kept it from him because she always thought he would judge get harshly, punish her or even disown her. So it was surprising none of those things happened but instead he did the opposite and even endorsed her breaking the rules and just choose freely to the point of bringing a cowboy home. Because he put aside family name for her happiness

[@sheilaburns8977]

Good for Robert for loving his daughter!!!

[@timc844]

@@taroman7100 Issues?

[@12classics39]

I love how Robert grows to be more open-minded and forgiving towards his daughters. His old self would’ve disowned Mary for sleeping with Pamuk and Edith for having a child out of wedlock. But he learns that his children aren’t perfect and that mistakes shouldn’t define a person. He stops looking at them through society’s eyes and finally starts to look at them through the eyes of a father.

[@rsalt6015]

Society was changing, the end of the Victorian era with its hypocrisy over societal mores, a terrible war fought on an industrial scale, forced a change in outlook.

[@kepecos]

Yes he loves very fiercely and as he’s aged and seen more of how things are in the world I don’t think he had the strength to not let his love for his wife and daughters lead his decisions

[@rsalt6015]

@@kepecos The societal position of the higher echelons of British society was changing. The butchery of the Great War, the Wall Street crash and improvements to mass education affected the perceived invincibility of the ruling classes.

[@kepecos]

@@rsalt6015 that’s really fascinating to me, honestly. I’m a tribal member of a Pueblo tribe in the USA (American Indians or whatever) and we also have a higher echelon of our people. No one is wealthy, but it’s more about age and knowledge. That’s the only way I can kind of try to understand the English societal structure as depicted in this show. Really fascinating though.

[@judysmith-randle1558]

Well expressed written comment....".go find a cowboy and bring him back to shake us up a bit."...I hollered with laughter! additionally...Carlisle sets Marys' teeth on edge......love that ...descriptor!!

[@lauraschoenborn3544]

“Do you remember a Turkish gentleman who stayed with us before the war?” “I think I can be relied on to remember any guest who was found dead in his bed the next morning?” This scene although very serious, Robert’s delivery of that line makes me chuckle.

[@quitequiet1]

I think if this scene had carried on, Cora’s next line would’ve been, “ That’s it. He didn’t die in his bed.”

[@safespacebear]

The look of terror on Lady Mary's face with Robert just blurts it out...golly, Michelle is a great actress. I think it takes a special talent to convey complex emotions with a character like Mary who tries to hard to never show her true emotions. Michelle lets it out in brief glimpses that are very powerful.

[@therra1101]

summed up mary well, you have a good way with words

[@taroman7100]

as an actress she's pretty average and very lucky.

[@hoaihuong1234]

I love this scene. The unconditional love of a father.

[@wendyhardin5259]

Just love that about Robert.

[@teaonrainyday888]

@@wendyhardin5259 Me as well! His fatherly love is also displayed when he finds out about Edith's daughter,when he deals with the Irish riot,keeping Sybil safe.

[@JAA-xk7pn]

Superb acting. The gestures - her horror when he asks, his facial remarks regarding Mathew, just superb. And the way she conveys the massive relief when her father builds her a safe haven. They played this scene of complete fatherly love and protection perfectly.

[@bravefaery135]

Are you a writer? Your comment brought tears to my eyes.

[@michelemartelossi541]

You described it superbly

[@TheLongjohntim]

I could not agree more with you. That look on her face spoke volumes those tears of relief. One of my favorite scenes!

[@sheilaburns8977]

This scene always makes my eyes burn. Robert shows so much love. PEACE to ALL.

[@emdee7744]

Indeed. Unbelievably so, frankly, for that era and their station in society.

[@creativehorsequeen]

"Find a cowboy in the Middle West and bring him back to shake us up" 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂 Imagine if she had taken that advise seriously.

[@anthonylegore1517]

Spencer Dutton

[@abhilashmishra3601]

She kinda did and married that driver 😂😂😂😂

[@shavagreycastle]

We stan a good Quincey Morris type

[@rodrigocruz9499]

It would have been far better than boring mr Henry Talbot (or whatever the spelling is)

[@A_massive_wog]

For such a minor character who appeared in only one episode, Pamuk lived on in the series far longer than I wish he had.

[@MeredithHagan]

The mark of good writing. The choices real people make don’t stop having consequences when the credits roll!

[@fawadahmedshaikh718]

H was the main lead in divergent

[@Geellun]

Julian Fellowes read this story in a diary from around that time and it inspired the entire series.

[@carolynoloughlin2739]

@@lolabrini3758 The gorgeous Theo James , have you see " Sanditon " he is the lead hunk in that.

[@blackswiftie2860]

Like an *STD* ...

[@crazysteve9390]

Cora really did choose her moment well.

[@DeepikaGinger]

I don’t want my daughter to be married to a man who threatens her with ruin. The bottom line

[@georgeprchal3924]

If only Robert or Cora took this much interest in Edith. I wouldn't be surprised to learn if they had left Edith behind on a trip to France or Italy before.

[@nursejoco3242]

George Prchal the original Kevin from Home Alone

[@georgeprchal3924]

@@nursejoco3242 You know in the second movie he did it intentionally. He didn't get lost, he just wanted to go to New York instead of Miami.

[@RochelletheRealtor]

Edith is a bore.

[@romulusthemainecoon3047]

@@RochelletheRealtor I actually liked Edith more and more as the series went on. She went from being "invisible" and "poor Edith" to making something of herself outside of her family, and outside of Mary's shadow! She didn't always make good choices, but in the end, I liked her better than Mary.

[@alfonso1501]

I call Edith: Meg Crawley

[@nina1522]

Robert is such a good father.

[@julijakeit]

let's ask Edith about it.

[@c.r.t1586]

@@julijakeit she will agree too...

[@nwahally]

Occasionally.

[@tideoftime]

He's not always a good father... but his heart/intentions are always good for the family, so that counts well enough...

[@mrains100]

Robert is a real man, with all his faults.

[@chrisp.9380]

I was glad Cora waited for the right moment, it was such a delicate situation that could have easily gotten out of hand. I think it really helped create a platform for Robert to show just how unconditional his love for his daughter is. It really shows how Robert and Cora are such a great couple and parents(to Mary and Sybil at least) in spite of their ups and downs.

[@spencercarruth9706]

I think Julian Fellowes wrote Edith’s part rather well. There are many families out there with middle children, and I think Fellowes did an excellent job representing that.

[@raechelhaynes7700]

Anyone notice the look on his face when she called herself "damaged goods?"

[@tobiasgriffin4263]

She is

[@veronikadaniel919]

Tobias Griffin *isn’t

[@flyboy152]

@@veronikadaniel919 Actually, by the standards of the time, she was. Had the information come out, her prospects of a decent suitor would have been very limited. Men were expected to sow their oats, but women of her class were supposed to be virgins at marriage.

[@kokonana4086]

What a dad he is for his daughter!

[@ebonywahine]

Well yeah for Mary...Edith was mostly an after thought until later on in the series.

[@c.r.t1586]

@@ebonywahine rewatch the series again!! 😉

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

He essentially killed Sybil

[@KoiYakultGreenTea]

I love how much he’s changed. He acknowledged his own almost affair with the maid in reference to past mistakes. He knows now that he’s not as noble and mighty as he thought he was. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone and he humbled himself to know he is not without sin

[@harringt100]

You think that's what he meant by "You're not the first Crawley to make a mistake."? Because that was after Pamuk...

[@KoiYakultGreenTea]

@@harringt100 he was reassuring her that she’s not the only one who made ‘mistakes’

[@briancarter8490]

Scenes like this are why I love this show. The characters are flawed and realistic with varying degrees of development, but they usually have badass moments. And they're written SO WELL.

[@TheLongjohntim]

Not sure how many times I've watched this scene but it still touches my heart. Like a caged bird being set free.

[@sofiasoto3171]

"You're not the first Crawley that make a mistake" 😭 ❤

[@dancancelmo7144]

I wish she did bring an American cowboy back. Would have been terribly interesting and funny

[@nina1522]

Indeed! And Cora's mother Martha would have really enjoyed that too 😉😄

[@davidthaler7018]

Could you imagine? kzbin.info/www/bejne/npLagmitpMecZ7s

[@Crazychriscjc]

Can't be worse than a chauffeur.

[@ramsesdie9999]

@@Crazychriscjc Indeed

[@aimeethereseperhach1055]

Why would it be better to have s cowboy shake them up, when he didn't accept Tom for so long?

[@007vissa]

Best father daughter conversation. Every gal needs a supporting father like him.

[@sugarbuttersalt7258]

Such relief for Mary, I teared up a bit. The weights were being lifted off her shoulders.

[@taroman7100]

mary, such a total skank. I find it hard to believe she would draw a swarm of suitors except for what? prestige in the name?

[@sonmi2246]

@@taroman7100 now now, Joanie, don't be bitter; over a fictional character no less. It's very unbecoming. Read this comment Lady Mary's posh RP for the full, intended affect.

[@MarklovesAngels]

Loved the father's relationship with the daughters in this show. Especially the scene with Edith and letting her know that he knew the identity of her child. Beautifully acted, the look of relief on their faces.

[@robertmchenry5274]

I love that he says.... "find a cowboy in the middle west..."

[@SSulfur]

"oh papa" so sweet 😍😍

[@__seeker__]

The closest an Englishman can come to just saying, “I love you.”

[@petec434]

The thoughts in Cora's head when she's holding her tongue at 0:34, Lord Grantham's face at 1:16 ("Ah fuck, NOW what?"), and Mary's total terror of her father's reaction at 4:03. All the non-verbal acting in Downton Abbey is what made it so captivating to watch.

[@jessicasager72]

Yes the acting is the reason I watch the show. It's phenomenal.

[@ZephWraen]

Robert got on my nerves constantly throughout the show, so it's always refreshing to see scenes like this where he's actually being a loving father.

[@lemorab1]

I went through a similar scene with my father when I was 24 years old. We had had a rocky relationship, but he was there for me with unconditional love when I needed him. This scene makes me tear up every time. The actors and writer really hit this one out of the park.

[@kthoennes]

"Well, that's the thing...." Now there's a hilarious line.

[@uncommon_name9337]

Very American

[@mitzinicoleritter211]

Although I'm glad she & Matthew eventually ended up together, a cowboy is ALWAYS a good idea!😁

[@donnapalmeri9573]

A HARD MAN is GOOD TO FIND!!!😁😀

[@allisgoodallisbad]

I know it's TV, but every time I watch moments like this between Robert and Mary, I cry....

[@errrno1761]

I would've loved to see a middle-western cowboy introduced to Downton Abbey as Mary's husband... That would've been so interesting to watch

[@emdee7744]

Yes! That would have been spectacular!

[@htimsid]

These scenes are so beautifully written and acted.

[@greengardengreen6666]

Lord Grantham is such a gentleman, classy, humble and understanding and a wonderful father to his daughters. I love this scene.

[@katherinewilson1853]

he is also extremely irresponsible and spent their money.

[@miriamhavard7621]

"I want you to marry a GOOD man!" 💕

[@alisonelliott5078]

I absolutely love the Downton Abbey Series

[@Beadle990]

This brings a big smile to my face. It reminds me of the relationship I have with my father.

[@chrissytian]

Watched this scene for hundreds of times and tears still come out when Mary goes “papa”

[@Peach567]

In Mary's defense, Mr. Pamuk was hard to resist.

[@RochelletheRealtor]

Yep!

[@FiliusPluviae]

oh dear lord Jesus Christ was he impossible to resist!

[@Peach567]

@@SusanKay- 😂

[@girlwithoutpearlearring]

Nah... I didn't like Pamuk. He wasn't even handsome. Just a dandy without a sense of what is good and moral who thought he could have anything he likes. I had no sympathy for him at all

[@6startrek]

GirlWithoutPearlearring InLoveWithMusic well he’s dead now. Got what he deserved huh?

[@divyakumbukkal]

every girl would dream of such a supportive caring father - father is always a girls first hero

[@Saucyakld]

Wow, a great father, mine was too when I got caught! Will forever treasure the memory

[@elizabethpoulianakis8404]

Me too

[@corsariocapitao]

Mine wasn't. Oh well, he'll be in a nursing home soon enough 🙂

[@samprimera5545]

The amount of forgiveness and exceptance Hugh shows in this scene-staggering.Shes still his little girl.Thats all that matters.

[@lemorab1]

This scene made the tears well up. I miss my dad.

[@Vesnicie]

As a girl with daddy issues, this scene makes me so sad and lonely for the sort of protector and understanding man I might have had in a father.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father

[@catherinembui4883]

May the Lord heal your pain and give you wholeness in life

[@allainefria4589]

im sorry 😢

[@freyasheart9527]

I have a father but still gave daddy issues 😭😭😔

[@alleycat2502]

For Mr. Crawley to tell her to find a cowboy to marry, the apocalypse would have had to come first. I’m glad he grew as a person and saw that his daughter needed him not to think about the family’s reputation and peerage but of her happiness and future.

[@cobbler9113]

alleycat250 Well they did have the Great War I suppose.

[@fortheloveofcats2462]

Minutes after bashing his youngest daughter for marrying a chauffer, yes he definitely grew as a person.

[@anneliesmohle1227]

the look of complete and utter relief on mary's face!

[@fennecfox9490]

I love Matthew but boy that suggestion about the cowboy in the midwest sounds fun.

[@kirkrogers6968]

Loved it then, loved it now.

[@blackswiftie2860]

*Same* ♡

[@daviddemers9093]

That wonderful scene of forgiveness always brings a tear to my eye. I must have watched it a hundred times.

[@lucyhartwell2134]

Robert always tried to be a good father to his girls, and he often succeeded. He forgave Mary for the Pamuk situation, he paid off her blackmailer, and gently nudged her towards Matthew. Robert is always the one who raises Edith in his and Cora’s conversations: ‘What about Edith? We never seem to talk about her.’ He didn’t want her to be a writer or marry Anthony at first, but he was worried about her, and he let up once he saw how happy it made her. Robert initially forbade Sybil from marrying Tom- but from his point of view, Sybil was giving up every privilege he had worked hard to provide for her and choosing a life of poverty she didn’t fully understand. And again, he let it go when he saw it made her happy. Robert may have been partially responsible for Sybil’s death, but that was because he wanted the ‘best doctor’ for her, and his snobbery meant he couldn’t see that was Dr Clarkson. Robert makes plenty of mistakes as a father, but they all come from a place of love and a desire to see his daughters happy.

[@msmarycrawley4303]

Well said!

[@user-tb7qj6xh4h]

And when he accepted Marigold and talked about it with edith

[@Strix07024]

And that, folks, is called grace. A giving to us that which we do not deserve because none of us ever gets it right.

[@deirdremorris9234]

AMEN

[@MalakianM2S]

I always found funny that the british high class, the tippy top of society, call their fathers as the most common household here in Spain. That papa, with the last syllable being the strong, is so endearing to my ears.

[@jimin-ssibangtansmind7230]

A mí me da risa cuando lo dicen en Bridgerton, en D.A suena bonito y serio

[@kelleykdavisify]

I must have gone through my DVD collection of Downton Abbey at least a couple of dozen times.... but I still tear up when watching this

[@tarawrr20]

Kinda wish we had seen Mary in New York! That woulda been fun!

[@shannonfick7170]

I'm so glad Robert could have this understanding moment with both his surviving daughters! He proved to be much more understanding than anyone thought. The interesting thing was that the only one who truly never held out for his approval was Sybil... though he did give his blessing in the end, I think it was her only after her death that Robert, and the whole family, really, became more open minded

[@flyboy152]

At this time in the story, Sybil is still very much alive.

[@rubyhill3731]

I ❤ Downton Abbeyyy

[@nina1522]

I'm so looking forward to the movie!

[@rubyhill3731]

I'm so excited for the movie i can't waitttt!!!❤❤

[@tansleypotts9486]

I love Downton and time can't come quick enough for the movie ❤

[@historygirl0126]

One of my favorite scenes from the series

[@connellwalker7873]

Yet another scene which shows why these particular actors carried their parts with richness, a talent for communicating innuendo as well as the more straightforward points. Can you imagine another actress who could offer the fullness of Cora as Elizabeth McGovern does? Or the other two who are in this scene? Good writing and direction are surely parts of it, but it's the actor who either delivers or doesn't when it comes to the production.

[@taroman7100]

yes, ofcourse. I can imagine quite a few better than McGovern. The character of Cora was wish washy and vacuous. I hate the scene where Mary is still suffering from grief but its the end of the world when Cora wakes up to find her maid has split. What must it be like to have someone dress you? yuk! She was shallow to the core. And most the time a fine bitch when she felt like it.

[@Clau92Cris]

Thank you for this scene.

[@marig6184]

I miss this show.

[@carolinerottkamp7710]

As much as I love the fact that Matthew and Mary get together finally right after this, I do love imagining the alternate universe where Mary does in fact bring home a cowboy. The thought is so implausible and hilarious

[@HymnfortheDudes]

I think we were all left wondering whether Pamuk actually deflowered her.

[@2009grifin1]

He probably wanted to say, "what the heck goes on in this house at night?" But he is and always was a class act.

[@Aarontlondon]

Aww I love this show so much

[@mcampbe41]

A father must always support his family regardless.This extremely well acted and a huge scene.

[@Loveroffood41]

It's videos like this the remind me how lucky I am to have the father I do. I have the most amazing dad who is gone through a great deal with me and I don't know what I would do without him some days.

[@joealvarez3724]

A father's understanding and unconditional love is beautiful thing to see, and even better to live. 🤔💖

[@YTfancol]

Beautiful scene ❤️❤️❤️

[@fuxiangliu5361]

I just love Robert as a father in this scene

[@goodwillambassador9355]

"What about Matthew? How does he view the late Mr Pamuk?" Robert is the best😂

[@MilotheShrike]

This and his talk with edith about marigold really are where Robert shows not only his growth but his unrelenting love for them. And the fact he apologises to edith for making her feel so alone. "My dear I need your forgiveness as much as you need mine" and this makes me put up with his temper. Cause I know he can see sense if shown the reality. And look how far he and Tom have come along. So proud of Roberts growth, it shows even ppl stuck in their ways can change for the better

[@alemlobo7491]

Best dad ever

[@elisecooper1942]

I wish Lord Grantham was my dad. He loves his daughter so much.

[@texasstardust6010]

...There's such a Lesson to be learned from this ...Even in this day and Time...Her Father understood the Entire Equation, and refused to allow his daughter to live a miserable existence within the guise of a "marriage" ...One of his grandest moments in this Scene ...Bravo I say. And the dry humour exhibited when speaking with Cora in regards to Pamuk was well delivered .

[@markscheidegger2103]

My favorite scene in the entire series.

[@MarklovesAngels]

When this actress sits down and through the scene, her pauses and even her breathing are in character. An amazing piece of acting.

[@hannahp.fletcher9969]

Lord Granthams finest hour here... Esepcially relieving the tension telling her to bring home a cowboy from the middle west. He's a good father, even if he has his rocky moments. We all do.

[@HymnfortheDudes]

Mary was ridden better than a Grand National winner....😊

[@7ajhubbell]

Thank you.

[@abhilashmishra3601]

Mary staying with Carlisle to save Bates was the kindest thing ever 😭❤️

[@flyboy152]

What are you babbling about? She stayed with Carlisle to save her own reputation. The only thing Carlisle could have done to Bates was report on his trial, which would have been embarrassing to her father, not Bates.

[@abhilashmishra3601]

@@flyboy152 rewatch the episode...mary went and told Carlisle about Pamuk only to keep Ana and John safe from his wretched ex wife.. traded the secret to keep Ana safe...and it went out of control..how else u think Carlisle found out about Pamuk scandal.

[@flyboy152]

@@abhilashmishra3601 Where are you getting this from? Bates had already left Vera for good; the only person who would be harmed by the Pamuk scandal getting out is Mary. Bates wasn't even involved, and the fact that Anna helped move the body wasn't relevant. Mary even says she's going to get Carlisle's help to save her own neck. Never, at any time, is it mentioned that she's doing it to help Bates or Anna. Really, the fantasies some people concoct in their heads about the characters are baffling.

[@apollo684]

I swear when I saw this the first time I was rooting for Mary to actually find and marry a cowboy from the middle west. That would have been amazing and the Dowager's reaction would have been TV gold. And to see post WWI America depicted would have been fun too, but still love the show.

[@aeterna581]

She is his favorite. Its obvious.

[@confusedcomplicatedme9686]

@@SusanKay- edith was violet s and her american grandmother s favorite , she always stood by her , encouraged her and put mary in her place when she insulted her , sybill was cora's and all the servants favorite

[@jehannethompson1432]

Sleepygangster cat Edith was not violets favourite tho. She helped her busy she wasn’t her favourite

[@aeterna581]

@@jehannethompson1432 of course. Mary was. And she also was her american grandmother's favorite. As much as it possible, considering that she barely saw them.

[@jehannethompson1432]

Deliah Air Sybil was Cora’s favourite cause she’s the baby of the house

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

Sybil was his favorite one

[@trellises]

I liked Lady Mary in Season 2. Humble and uncertain. Longing for Matthew's love, but with almost no hope of attaining it. Michelle Dockery has played it superbly - her tone, her choice of words, her manners all around are so different compared to the arrogant Mary of Season 1 or of the later seasons when she becomes co-owner of Downton Abbey.

[@CrimsonThorns]

Matthew softened her. I always liked Mary...she was strong..but yes, at times vindictive...but she grew and matured...Matthew changed that where Mary in many episodes had some touching moments.

[@DannyMercer1993]

Lord Grantham’s growth was so wonderful in this series. It mirrored my own from a very moralised, formal English upbringing.

[@282828lisa]

I love the fighting Crawleys!

[@voxnocturne]

Robert's fatherly kindness and understanding here is strangely missing when he first found out about Sybil & Tom .

[@Sharonmplus]

Well, yes, because that's his character development. After the whole thing with Sybil he probably had a chance to reflect on what is important when it comes to his daughters. He even said so in this clip....

[@fabulouschild2005]

I don't understand why Mary said in the beginning that Pamuk didn't force himself upon her, because he kind of did; he went into her room uninvited and she said no many times

[@blackswiftie2860]

@1:00 " *Bride On The Brink of Heaven* " -Lord Grantham Ahahaha. THIS IS MY ERA Bro! 👸🏿

[@Grace27Seoul]

Amazing..

[@13thHourCreations]

3:48 Robert's face here for a second looks as though he doesn't really get it, but doesn't want to give it away 😂

[@mrmadness2699]

“Find a cowboy in the Middle West and bring him back to shake us up a little” is proof that most Brits do not have a good grasp on where the Midwest is. Then again (as an American) I used to think that the “Home Counties” referred to all the counties of England not just those surrounding London.AND I once mistakingly put Oxford in the Midlands (It is not)

[@michaeldukes4108]

There are cowboys all over Nebraska and Kansas.

[@mrmadness2699]

MICHAEL DUKES , True though I would say the Great Plains states are very different

[@rachelmaxwell5936]

I have to say, I hope my father would react in this way if I found myself in similar trouble.

[@riversong656]

In any case - it is my view that Pamuk took liberties with Mary, arguably forced himsrlf on her. And her life was nearly ruined by this

[@cameronhodgetts920]

Lord Grantham was woke af, and I love it

[@LMays-cu2hp]

Very nice...

[@LMays-cu2hp]

This is so cute.. Her Father says go the new Americas and stay with rich Grandmother and find another guy!! If possible, "a cowboy"!! Too cute....

[@glamdolly30]

That's a great dad!

[@sethtubman647]

I always thought a young war hero with strong aristocratic connections would have been the best for Mary. Sure the war did take a toll but there were still many young men who had returned decorated and ranking who would have probably been an excellent match.

[@flyboy152]

She basically had that choice later with Tony Gillingham and Charles Blake, but neither one measured up.

[@SS11660]

I agree. I was somewhat disappointed . She seemed to be giving in to everyone s pressure especially Tom. She always dreamed of being countess in that social world but Gillingham was too boring for her.

[@zidneya]

He took it better than I thought.....wayyy better than I thought.

[@tylero8595]

I never had a chance to watch this show while it was on TV. I heard all the fuss and thought, meh. Its probably just ok. Holy shit I was wrong. This is like watching a tabloid magazine come to life. And the production value is amazing.

[@markmh835]

Oh it is! Downton Abbey is much more than merely a British soap opera. It is television story-telling drama at its finest. Well worth watching all 5 seasons.

[@nancylpr]

Now THAT, is a good father!