Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett: How to Understand Emotions | Huberman Lab Podcast

[@jonmeisburg]

Here are 10 key points summarizing the discussion: 1. Emotions emerge from overall brain-body states, not distinct entities. The brain makes guesses to reduce uncertainty and plan actions. 2. "Affect" refers to general feelings tied to the body budget. Managing affect through sleep, nutrition, etc. helps regulate emotions. 3. There are no universal facial expressions for specific emotions. We make inferences about others' emotions from movements in context. 4. Emotion concepts and words summarize past experiences into categories to guide future actions. 5. More nuanced emotion vocabulary allows us to construct finer-grained categories and actions. 6. Other languages often have emotion words that English lacks. Learning these expands our emotional granularity. 7. Relationships profoundly shape emotions through social synchrony and acts of kindness that provide "savings" in the body budget. 8. Toxic relationships "tax" us. Choosing partners wisely is foundational for mental health. 9. Depression is like a "bankrupt" body budget. Physical factors like sleep, nutrition, and exercise are crucial for affect. 10. Focusing attention on nuances of physical sensations, rather than emotion labels, can provide wisdom to guide different actions. --------------------------- Here are some specific actions you can take for each of the key points: 1. **Emotions emerge from overall brain-body states, not distinct entities.** To better understand your emotions, pay attention to your physical sensations, thoughts, and emotions as a whole. How are they interconnected? How do they change over time? 2. **"Affect" refers to general feelings tied to the body budget. Managing affect through sleep, nutrition, etc. helps regulate emotions.** Make sure to get enough sleep, eat a nutritious diet, and exercise regularly. These things will help to regulate your body budget and improve your overall affect. 3. **There are no universal facial expressions for specific emotions. We make inferences about others' emotions from movements in context.** When you are trying to understand someone else's emotions, pay attention to their body language and facial expressions. Consider the context of the situation as well. What is the person saying? What is happening around them? 4. **Emotion concepts and words summarize past experiences into categories to guide future actions.** Think about the different emotions you have experienced in your life. What are the common themes? How have these experiences shaped your behavior? 5. **More nuanced emotion vocabulary allows us to construct finer-grained categories and actions.** Learn new words to describe your emotions. This will help you to better understand and manage your own emotional experience. 6. **Other languages often have emotion words that English lacks. Learning these expands our emotional granularity.** If you are interested in learning a new language, pay attention to the emotion words that it has. How are they different from the emotion words in English? 7. **Relationships profoundly shape emotions through social synchrony and acts of kindness that provide "savings" in the body budget.** Spend time with people who make you feel good. Be kind to others and offer your support. Social connection is essential for emotional well-being. 8. **Toxic relationships "tax" us. Choosing partners wisely is foundational for mental health.** Avoid relationships that are draining or abusive. Choose partners who are supportive and caring. 9. **Depression is like a "bankrupt" body budget. Physical factors like sleep, nutrition, and exercise are crucial for affect.** If you are struggling with depression, make sure to get enough sleep, eat a nutritious diet, and exercise regularly. These things will help to improve your body budget and mood. 10. **Focusing attention on nuances of physical sensations, rather than emotion labels, can provide wisdom to guide different actions.** When you are feeling overwhelmed by emotions, try to focus on your physical sensations. What are you feeling in your body? What does your body need? It is important to note that these are just suggestions. The best way to improve your life is to experiment and find what works best for you. Be patient and kind to yourself along the way.

[@Liliarthan]

Hey, this is fantastic! Thank you for sharing your very concise notes. I often get so inspired by one of these talks and mentally try to take notes, but by a third of the way, these mental notes get fuzzy and I know I need to rewatch it a few times with pen and paper to not miss all this wisdom. I’ve listened to *so* much psych/health/science content, due to my insatiable appetite for knowledge and to gain insight into how I experience life. But this one is right at the top in terms of this stadium lighting level of illumination, truly life changing. So thank you, for saving me a lot of time and to give me a good starting point for my next listen. The ADHD’er in me also thanks you 😂

[@kenlang1070]

Well done! Three goes against a lot of ideas with facial expressions and I disagree that facial expressions are not "universal". The book, "Emotions Revealed, Second Edition: Recognizing Faces and Feelings to Improve Communication and Emotional Life" is a very good read to understand facial expressions being tied with emotions and they are very much shared between western and non-western cultures. Sure a single facial expression can be tied to multiple emotions, but the book does a good job of pointing out very slight differences that may give a tell to one or the other.

[@dedesixhela8270]

Cheers pal

[@lindseyher2245]

🔥 fantastic summary & love the tips. 👏

[@luanacotrim8009]

Thank you ❤

[@shrirangbondale2263]

What i like about this podcast : she has studied so much about her subject, she basically points out what's wrong with stuff we commonly know and goes a level deeper and explains it properly... ( It was harder for me personally to visualise what is stress but after she explained what cortisol is, i was able to visualise it properly)

[@lexfridman]

Such a great conversation. Lisa is amazing! ❤

[@samsungjamuna9906]

Lex, do you know any book (like dictionary) which is just for words of "emotions" and "mind states"? Today we learned about words like "ligat" and "gigle". Doctor says that the finer the categories, more easy for our mind to process things. Could you please recommend a book which will helps in this sense?

[@Critabble]

hi Lex!

[@TheRealHerbaSchmurba]

I’ll beat you in jiu jitsu no problemmmmmm

[@breathspinecore]

@lexfridman Your second interview with her was so good that I watched it twice.

[@robertobenedit]

ES LOCO PENSAR QUE ESTE TEXTO LLEGUE A VOS Y A ANDREW, LA MAGIA DEL INGENIO HUMANO.

[@innershawnti]

I am so glad this conversation took place, and that Andrew held the space for it to develop into what it did gracefully, (with humility). We need more people like Lisa to help us properly progress psychology/ physiological/ mental health studies/ field forward, in the right direction. Thank you, both!

[@Deelitee]

So many applications!! Imagine this being utilized in schools, addiction, rehabilitation, etc.. 💥

[@holism]

Except that she is wrong and misleading us to a worse frame for understanding emotions which is innacurate 🙈

[@bethearly4593]

I am an early intervention speech therapist. I have been endorsing that parents label/ñame emotions for their children for the very reasons that Dr. Feldman states. However, my head is now spinning with regard to the new information I am learning about whether emotional states are genetically determined, cultural influences etc. LOVE THIS TOPIC and now I have a new and long list of books to buy, highlight and make notes in, then incorporate this information into my practice and what I tell my graduate clinicians. Also: comments about the language differences is spot on. I speak Spanish and there are many words used to describe emotions that are not available in English Thank you so much!

[@PeeGee85]

There are some different views on whether emotions are constructed or innate, Dr Barrett had a conversation with Dr. Mark Solms about this recently (also on youtube). I hope they'll have another one and find a bit more common ground and agree on definitions, since it was a bit defensive. Seems to me that the answer is somewhere in the middle, emotions are partly innate (or environmental but so ubiquitous as to be second nature) and partly learned (or innate but so flexible that they can be applied differently depending on context, second nurture, say). How exactly individual emotions are constituted at the level of experience and per individual is hard to say, of course.

[@bryansagrerobeachbody5478]

Im halfway through the episode now, but idk if the book list you just mentioned is on the second part of the episode. Ud be grateful if you could share your book list with me 😁 by the way, I'm also a Spanish speaker

[@eduardoreyes9106]

Totalmente de acuerdo!

[@Itsme-e5j]

Andrew is teaching people how to be humble by example. ❤

[@StdsRbop1]

For real... he even prefaces the video by thanking her for her rudeness to try and not get us to destroy her in the comments. Huberman emulates well a lot of the positive attributes I imagine God has

[@NuLiForm]

This man is a Gift to Humanity.

[@dbdumont]

Both of them had such great micro social skills of validating one another, clarifying, giving agreement, asserting a disagreement super specifically, I admired that as well and felt it was a very valuable lesson within all the other lessons.

[@denisrivarola2387]

Of course he is, his dad's from Rio de la Plata and he drinks mate

[@evelynfitting884]

Why is a woman who is assertive perceived as rude?! He is easily persuaded to back down on theories he has repeatedly stated before on his show such as “yum yuck meh”

[@user-ur2wd8du4z]

The healthiest battle of the egos I’ve ever seen… this is how you have a debate/discussion/conversation

[@chenli-yi1487]

This is probably the most life-changing episodes for me. Just by knowing this sensory-categorization-emotion-action mechansim allows me to generate so many more options in every day life. It also provides a strong foundation for me to understand all other concepts like the growth mindset and the humam learning process. In the past few days I have been dwelling on the every day application of it and using testing them. It already has changed some basic patterns that, I, for the past 39 years of my life, believed were unchangeable. It is like microscope that helps you see the working of some already very useful tools. I want to thank, from the bottom of my heart, Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett and, of course, Dr. Andrew Huberman, for their love of science and strong compassion for people who suffer.

[@me0101001000]

This is particularly valuable for neurodivergent people. People with ASD, like myself, often struggle with understanding the emotions of others as well as our own, which leads to issues with expression, communication, and general connection with other people. Tools like your podcast are an immense help. Thanks, professor!

[@mathew9851]

But i think the idea that she's getting at is that assessing somebodys mood based off your observations is not a sufficient medium to determine somebodies actual mental state. So with that being said, I wouldn't beat yourself up about not being good at the skill of empathy, when most people are making inferences that are more than likely incorrect.

[@FWMisc-xy37]

and if you let them keep the inferences then you have let the revisionists reshape your reality 😂

[@forgottensage-o5o]

This lady is excellent. SSRI's have been a lifesaver for me for over 25 years. They continue to work beautifully for me. Please be careful in your excitement to not overlook how profoundly they can continue to change lives and turn people from dead husks into vibrant living productive members of society who not only thrive externally put feel the sunshine in their hearts, souls, and minds that was desperately missing for so very , very long.

[@HappyBunnyNS]

Glad you have found something that provides relief. What is concerning is they are still referred to as SSRIs despite us now knowing they do not affect serotonin levels. What are these pills millions of people are taking??

[@JenniferMyers]

This episode was tremendously interesting and so helpful to me as someone who struggles with my own emotional regulation and properly identifying facial expressions in other people. It’s something with which I’ve struggled my entire life, and educational resources such as this podcast, and specifically this episode, are invaluable tools for self improvement. Thank you for providing this.

[@senseofwonder4734]

I adore you and your content, Jennifer Myers. You are doing lots of good in the world. ❤

[@GeneBrown-mr7fp]

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[@lusmerlin]

The universal expression discussion hits home. I am from the Dominican Republic and came to rural Maryland and people at work kept saying that I was getting angry and that I was aggressive when I was feeling neutral and even nicer than most! I eventually realized it was how they interpreted my gestures. Back home we express everything more intensely. I started acting... using more neutral faces or slightly smiling... Started speaking in a slightly higher pitch... Boom! As I met more people, they seemed to like me and find me funny and even chill! This has significant repercussions for career outcomes - whether someone considers an Asian person not to be leadership material because they are inexpressive, or they isolate a black woman because they find her aggressive.

[@mikahspatzierer4464]

"Backpfeifengesicht" is a German word for "a face badly in need of a fist". Personal favourite is "Waldeinsamkeit" which is the "spiritual and connective solace found in being alone in the woods"

[@MMartin-pt9yv]

Waldeinsamkeit. thanks so much for that.... my new favourite word !

[@SnakeEater503]

nice

[@terraincognita3917]

Schadenfreude is another every so German one: the joy observing other's misfortune... Used a lot observing other's trips and falls, not being able to surpress laughter

[@dim7363]

Yeah! Exactly this is the word which popped up in my mind ​@@terraincognita3917

[@reallue]

Thank you, before this podcast, I didn't know there was a word for this.

[@canadianhappyinitalytruest6556]

As a fencing coach, a parent and someone raised by an old-school German father, this conversation was immensely helpful! Thank you to both of you!!!

[@TnE84]

“Part of being emotionally intelligent is knowing when not to construct an emotion!”. 💣 ❤

[@NetaMills]

Amen. I used to think my emotions were me. Not separate the trouble is. I am a intrusive Empath and I feel what other people feel. So when I separated emotions from who I am. My blessing from the universe began and I experienced my life and love. That I had never had for myself before. I am 71 now everyday is a classroom but it took more pain than I could ever go through again. It ended up not being my problem but a obstacle to gain knowledge from. I am here I am important 9 am beautiful and I am alive. My energy combined with everyone alive and everything alive it's energy with no end but you who has to go. Love yourself but don't think we don't need each other because we do in order to survive don't worry about yesterday because there is a negative coming upon the earth but we can win if you encourage each other to love connect with each other

[@NetaMills]

Sleep at night with the lights off. Only if you want your melatonin to be enhanced to the maximum it's connected to the pinal gland which is your magical side the fun side of imagination and remote viewing connecting to people on the other side of the world. At least my opinion the third eye

[@kkkkkkk7]

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[@shannonhooge7108]

I am a Special Education teacher and I find the science presented in these episodes invaluable for my practice as a teacher. This episode, however, just left me a bit unmoored. While I can find ways to apply the concepts Dr. Feldman Barrett was positive about, those ideas that were refuted are very hard to get around. The idea that Emotional Intelligence is not useful flies in the face of my personal "anecdata," and puts in question much of what we do to try to help children deal with their emotions. I understand that Dr. Feldman Barrett is trying to explain the science and call into question thinking and practices that are not supported by data, but she also discounts a large body of psychological practice that are used daily with a great deal of success. Maybe what is really helping kids with neurodivergence is the relationship with a positive adult, but I can't help but feel (emotion) that I'm just whistling in the dark. I'd love to hear some episodes that deal with neurodivergence as well as how EQ actually works.

[@destinygarcia6236]

I have been on a journey of self healing and this podcast has been a great influence on my emotional and physical being.

[@con22886]

Well done to you on putting in the effort to better yourself and create a better environment for your family and those around you.

[@destinygarcia6236]

@@con22886 I didn’t expect a reply from anyone but thank you so much for this and for everyone else who liked my comment. Currently reading dopamine nation by Ana Lembke which Dr. Huberman has recommended and so it is amazing!

[@maplesyrupho3]

Same ♥️

[@sfabius]

This is the best episode of this podcast, showing your true curiosity and Dr. Feldman Barrett's brilliance. I will be listening multiple times.

[@Karim-fo8zl]

Glad to be a fan of this podcast since the first episode.

[@tuyendo7409]

I give you an applause for consistency

[@BrewmasterN8]

You're making the rest of us feel inadequate. 😂 Besides everyone knows daddy likes me more😂😂 JK

[@haisuli9583]

Me too. It is a 💎

[@spicyphilly]

@@BrewmasterN8 😆 that was good 🤣

[@coreyzamprogno5510]

Secret club!!

[@christygoodwin5886]

Beyond grateful to have found The Huberman Lab . Many resources I have found want me to experience their premium content through paid courses which is obviously not the case with The Huberman Lab. The quality of this content keeps me coming back and also I’m telling my close friends about the science behind the discussions.

[@AC-wb4pk]

This is such a good episode. I love how Lisa said how different cultures or languages can really define an emotion well. I am half Salvadoran and half Mexican and there are words from both cultures that I can’t translate to the fullest in English. The emotion or sentiments behind those words, I find, are not in the English language. Also, I love how vulnerable Andrew was in saying he felt lonely after spending time with his sister in New York. I get that feeling after spending time with my immediate family that are from outta state. This is something I have said since I was a kid, that my home are my people it’s not a place. So when they have to go or I have to leave after a visit I experience some loneliness as they take a part of me with them. Kinda like being homesick for them. This is just my experience, but I find it hard to even explain now. Also, the sense that this time with my loved ones is fleeting gets to me too, but that is a whole different rabbit trail.

[@leniolesch896]

Please red the book Between us by Batja Mesquita. You will like it.

[@AC-wb4pk]

Thank you for the recommendation

[@GieCampbel-ug9jl]

The words "I love" is used so commonly in the Western world that it loses its true meaning; unlike how its used in other countries i.e. India, Asia, etc. where it's for deep relationship between humans and not something frivolous like I love pizza, I love ice cream...and no wonder divorce is so common place for a cold, shallow people.

[@ck4748]

When I was a kid I learned in school that we love people not possessions or inanimate objects. We were corrected on using the word love when it came to inanimate objects... Like is more appropriate

[@eeeelbbbbiiieee]

The word you were referring to is “gigil” - a Filipino word. It means the overwhelming feeling that comes when you see something cute!

[@mariamariafujoshiinurarea2524]

We don't have a word for that feeling in my language, so I'll sure be using this word a lot from now on !!

[@GrumpyCat-mw5xl]

Emotions are like colors. You have your basic colors then you mix them together and it makes different colors. So there are all those emotional combinations by mixing emotions together in quality but also quantity. The number of different amounts of emotions it’s almost infinite.

[@michaeltherrien6006]

This interview is my first introduction to Dr. Feldman Barrett, it is hands down the best conversation I've ever heard on the topic of emotions.

[@michelletomyn3526]

Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett must be protected at all costs

[@thesilkpainter]

Does she need protecting?

[@quinburnside8240]

I have been listening to the Huberman Lab podcasts in chronological order and I have just noticed that my 'advice' portion of my default mode network has been replaced with Huberman's voice... I can literally hear Huberman telling me the things I should be doing inside my own head! It's GREAT! This advice has litterally changed my life soooo much ♥

[@DesireeBryson]

Reading these comments overwhelming fills me with joy! It truly is being a part of a community! I’ve struggled with depression for many years, and talk therapy just didn’t cut it for me. I definitely am a, I need the ‘why’ kind of person but I never thought to incorporate that into my mental health. Thank you so much Andrew! These videos are helping me navigate my life at a time where it’s very easy to give up. The knowledge you provide makes it easier to fight another day! I will forever be grateful! ❤

[@nancyjones7257]

I've listened to probably 90% of your podcasts since you started. A lot of them were enlightening for me, but I gotta say this is BY FAR the best one yet. Lisa Feldman Barrett is a voice I'm extremely happy to have been introduced to. Thanks.

[@olgamarinho]

Great interview, tons to learn. Dr. Barrett is such a knowledgeable woman, I'm impressed with how she delivers powerful insights that, if put into practice,can change a LOT, not only individually, but in society.

[@escapingsamsara]

I love how she is just so thrilled to talk to you Andrew. Lisa is such a humble person to have on the podcast. I love her energy so much and how much she loves to talk about it.

[@cheyneburns2199]

I love Lisa's perspective on intentionally experiencing the pain of the after-effects of her back surgery. I regularly avoid taking pain killers when I have muscle main, or minor injuries. As I've gotten older and matured, I prescribed to the fact I need to listen to my body. My logic is if I'm cancelling out the pain, I can't let my body "deal" appropriately? Especially so because I'm nursing some chronic illnesses - anything that's being masked is something that isn't being noticed.

[@christoptosis364]

I love Dr. Feldman-Barrett’s work so much! I own and have read both her books, and listened to so many of her talks and podcasts. SO glad you got her on! People, go get her books, they are very good and will almost assuredly update your brain!

[@Deelitee]

This woman is BRILLIANT!!!!! I want to take her home. Thank you for this amazing information, Dr. Huberman.✊

[@StacyA406]

Lisa and Andrew are both extraordinary. I have always found Andrew very endearing but it has reached a whole new level watching his interaction, facial expressions, etc… in this interview🙂

[@RJ-ry4pu]

Damn….this was soooo good. Love Dr. Huberman. Truly a gift of our time. Dude is humble, intelligent, and changing lives for the better. In light of all the chaos around the world, it’s nice to have an outlet where we can hear people like him interview and discuss such important topics.

[@drasaramesa]

I´m still struggling to process all that I didn't like about this conversation. The most meaningful message form this episode is you incredible self control and character. Congrats for being able to navigate it!

[@petarlukic6820]

Feels like she doesnt know what she talks about hahah

[@wheresmyleftflipflop]

I hear you. I think she came off as condescending; for example, I didn't find it necessary for her to assert that his first question was ill-posed before answering it when she could've just noted the differences between the mechanisms he misidentified in her answer. There are a multitude of other ways to go about answering questions from someone who isn't a specialist in your field without being pompous-- Dr. Huberman does it all the time with humility.

[@felipeschneider1978]

She cannot pose two words together that make sense. It's behaviourism and post modernism revival at its best.

[@felipeschneider1978]

​@@petarlukic6820cause she totally doesn't. I'm shocked.

[@LaNoireDetruit]

@@felipeschneider1978 Why do you think that? I am not versed in all the topics they talked about but in those that I knew from other sources, her descriptions were correct from what I could tell. I didn't enjoy her communication style very much either but that is a completely different argument.

[@Nania-z7e]

The awkward moments, the scientist created made my brain go blank, and I learned nothing I just felt the tension. Much love and respect from Montreal , Canada 🍁🙏🏻💖🍀

[@vaspertinoMoorphy]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎙️ *Introduction and Overview* - Introduction to the Huberman Lab podcast and guest, Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett. - Dr. Barrett's background and expertise in the study of emotions using approaches from psychology and neuroscience. 03:13 🛌 *Sleep and Emotions* - Sponsorship message for Eight Sleep, emphasizing the importance of sleep for mental health and performance. - Brief introduction to Eight Sleep's Smart mattress covers with cooling, heating, and sleep tracking features. 04:24 🍽️ *Blood Glucose and Health* - Sponsorship message for Levels, introducing a program for real-time feedback on how different foods and behaviors affect blood glucose levels. - Importance of blood glucose management for immediate and long-term health. 05:35 🧠 *Discussion with Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett Begins* - Transition to the discussion with Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett. - Initial focus on the topic of emotions, setting the stage for exploring the core components of emotions. 06:01 🤔 *Defining Emotions* - Exploration of the core components of emotions from a scientific perspective. - Discussion on the challenge of defining emotions and the lack of agreement among scientists. 11:29 🤷‍♂️ *Facial Expressions and Emotions* - Addressing the myth or truth about facial expressions and emotions influencing each other. - Dr. Barrett's critique of the idea that changing facial expressions can directly shift emotional states. 19:34 🤨 *Universal Facial Expressions Debate* - Dr. Barrett's personal journey in challenging the idea of universal facial expressions. - Overview of the historical debate in psychology about the universality of facial expressions. 23:58 🔄 *Consensus on Facial Expressions* - Dr. Barrett's involvement in the consensus paper on facial expressions. 24:38 🧐 *Scientific Panel Formation* - Dr. Barrett discusses the formation of a scientific panel to investigate facial expressions' universality. - Five senior scientists from different fields gathered over Zoom for two and a half years. 27:20 🤝 *Collaborative Approach* - The panel committed to consensus over individual correctness. - Contingencies were in place for potential disagreements on the interpretation of data. 28:43 🤔 *No Evidence for Universality* - After two and a half years and over a thousand papers, the panel concluded there was no evidence for facial expressions of emotion being universal. - Facial expressions were found to be highly variable, even within the same emotional category. 36:04 🌐 *Cultural Influence on Face Recognition* - Dr. Barrett delves into the role of cultural inheritance in face recognition. - Faces are hardwired preferences but require cultural learning for specific face recognition. 38:23 ⚖️ *Implications on Legal System* - Dr. Barrett highlights the serious consequences of relying on facial expressions in the legal system. - Points out a case where misinterpretation of facial expressions led to a death row sentence. 41:56 🤔 *Trusting Emotional Labels* - Huberman questions the trustworthiness of language in capturing the complexity of emotions. - Dr. Barrett acknowledges language limitations in expressing nuanced emotional states. 47:20 🗣️ *Language and Emotion Concepts* - Language contains unique words for specific emotional states in various cultures. - Examples include "gigil" for the overwhelming feeling of cuteness and a Japanese word for the despair after a bad haircut. 48:14 🧠 *Assumptions in Questioning Emotions* - Questions about emotions often assume a static, labeled state, which is not how the brain processes emotions. - The brain doesn't categorize emotions as fixed states but dynamically constructs categories based on sensory signals. 49:21 🌐 *Language, Categories, and Scientific Approach* - Traditional psychological approaches start with folk categories and try to find their physical basis in the brain. - Dr. Barrett suggests starting with the nervous system's anatomy and evolutionary development. 51:21 🔍 *Anatomical Basis and Categories in Brain Function* - Importance of understanding the brain's anatomy and anatomical connections for making hypotheses. - Dr. Barrett's approach to the brain as a continuous category constructor. 53:01 🧪 *Redefining Neurotransmitters and Hormones* - Challenge of assigning psychological meanings to neurotransmitters like serotonin and cortisol. - Serotonin as a metabolic regulator rather than a happiness chemical. 55:04 🧠 *Brain as a Signal Processor* - The brain is a signal processor, not a computer, continuously processing signals from sensory surfaces. - Signals are dynamic, evolving over time, and the brain dynamically constructs categories. 56:42 👁️ *Social Cues and Context in Signal Processing* - Humans use social cues, like eye gaze, to inform each other about what is signal and what is noise. - The brain's constant process of distinguishing between signal and noise in social and environmental contexts. 59:28 🎯 *Decision-Making and Uncertainty Reduction* - The brain's goal is to reduce uncertainty, making constant predictions and distinctions. - The example of a loud noise illustrates how the brain narrows down possibilities and makes predictions. 01:01:19 🔄 *Evolutionary Perspective and Expertise* - Acknowledgment of the importance of returning to fundamental basics, even for experts. - The brain's evolutionary wiring for uncertainty reduction and predictive processing. 01:09:12 🧠 *Encoding Information in the Brain* - Neurons represent various orientations of lines and shades of color. - Information is processed hierarchically, with convergence onto larger neurons for coarser representation. 01:11:00 🎭 *Multimodal Summaries in the Brain* - Summaries of sensory features occur along the neuraxis, moving from surface to midline. - Midline representations include multimodal summaries, integrating sights, sounds, and smells. 01:12:34 🌐 *Emotional Granularity and Multimodal Abstractions* - Emotions are broad mental features, acting as summaries of sensory and motor patterns. - Words like "anger" represent multimodal abstractions with diverse sensory and motor manifestations. 01:18:52 🤯 *Complexity, Authoritarianism, and Cultural Influences* - Complexity in responses fluctuates historically, influenced by cultural and developmental factors. 01:20:02 🤖 *Emoji Culture and Reduction of Emotional Complexity* - Modern communication platforms, like social media, may oversimplify emotional expression. 01:24:31 🔄 *Brain's Process: From Generalization to Specific Motor Plans* - The brain starts with compressed, low-dimensional features (e.g., anger) as generalizations. 01:28:03 📚 *Language, Labels, and Emotional Experience* - Language and labels are tools for the brain to generalize and communicate emotional experiences. 01:31:30 🗣️ *Communication through words and low-dimensional features* - Words serve as stand-ins for low-dimensional features. 01:34:36 🧠 *Linking movement and emotion in the brain* - Movement is the common path for understanding emotions. 01:41:02 🤔 *Balancing feeling emotions and top-down control* - Debate: Should we feel our emotions or exert top-down control? 01:50:31 🧘 *The distinction between feeling and emotion* - Feeling is a low-dimensional summary of the body's sensory state. 01:53:28 🧠 *Understanding Emotions* - Emotions are the brain's story about the causes of sensory signals and the actions needed in response. 01:55:02 🌍 *Navigating Uncertainty* - Uncertainty can evoke high arousal, often mistaken for anxiety or fear. 01:57:35 🤔 *Training Emotional Responses* - The brain can be trained to interpret physiological responses differently. 02:00:17 🧘‍♂️ *The Power of Knowledge* - Understanding emotions and affective states is powerful in itself. 02:05:49 🎨 *Adding Dimensionality to Experience* - Adding dimensionality to sensory experiences enriches our understanding of the world. 02:08:49 🔄 *Affect and Actions* - Affect serves as an anchor point for understanding emotions. 02:16:29 🧠 *Understanding Depleted Brain Body Budget* - Feeling unpleasant affects anticipation of pleasant things. 02:17:41 🤒 *Managing Emotional Flu: Body Budgeting* - Introduction to the concept of "emotional flu" during a bad body budgeting day. 02:20:14 🌙 *Positive Steps to Shift Affect in Positive Directions* - Key actions: Sleep, movement, and nutrition are crucial for positive affect. 02:21:10 🍷 *Impact of Alcohol and SSRIs on Body Budget* - Drugs of abuse and SSRIs can provide short-term relief but tax the body budget. 02:23:56 ⚖️ *Understanding Treatment-Resistant Depression* - Emergence of the theory that SSRIs might deplete neural systems for enhanced mood. 02:25:39 👫 *Importance of Social Connection and Kindness* - Emphasizing the role of social connection in regulating nervous systems. 02:29:03 🌐 *The Power of Reciprocal Regulation* - Reciprocal regulation: how humans regulate each other's nervous systems. 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[@kendrawagner2968]

What was missing was the trauma that lives in the body ("issues park themselves in our tissues") and memories that can't be tapped through the intellect. But with her and Gabor Mate on a panel - that would be a fire truth bomb!

[@shanningw1211]

Yeah I thought of Gabor Mate, too. She seemed to have separated the body and the brain. Unless she meant the trauma is in the CNS.

[@SharoFlores85]

Talking about Dr. Gabor Maté, has Huberman invited him to his show? It would be amazing!!

[@ruthromero8660]

Omgoodness yes that would be AMAZING to have both of them!!!

[@dionysusnow]

Trauma can reside in the body, but you must be careful when applying a narrative to body sensations, it's easy to fool oneself.

[@こなた-m1o]

@@dionysusnow if you're doing trauma-informed therapy you're not "applying a narrative" you're directly going to your body and asking it what is there. you literally can't make it up otherwise there will be dissonance.

[@davebgallowaygm1566]

"everything starts with a good night sleep". "Uncertainty is very costly". what a great session !

[@marionlawson4534]

As someone who feels they must explain their facial expressions ad nauseam, this episode was extremely helpful in understanding what others might perceive. Another wonderful episode. thnk you.

[@Asha-it3nm]

For a person with no mentor to look upto, you fill in ! Thank you Dr. Huberman, forever indebted to you.

[@PastorQuinn1]

I’ve read her book ‘How Emotions Are Made’ and this podcast is making what I learned from the book even more clear and understandable. Another phenomenal episode!

[@Schonemann]

My name is Astrid and I’m a podcast addict;) This is pure genius deep insight and I loved the interactions and energy between Dr Lisa and Huberman

[@KhadraA-q7x]

This is a great discussion. I am trained clinician in psychiatry. I struggled to understand emotion and my training didn’t help clarify. This is further complicated by my culture (grew up in an East African and Islamic tradition). In my training, I was taught to think of affect as observable feelings of others and mood, on the other hand is subjective report of a person. This is easier said than done, based on years of experience. Now, from this talk I learned that affect and mood are one in the same; that emotion is highly variable and depending on culture and our own interpretation can change. Loveee this!!! Thank you!

[@molleelovejoy]

This one is challenging me in so many ways! My first undergrad psychology course was is 1994, so I’m familiar with the facial pictures as they supposedly correlated to emotions. I work with children on a daily basis, helping them with trauma and how it impacts behavior, regulating their emotions (if that’s even the correct term anymore), social-emotional learning, etc., in conjunction with trying to teach them the basics in education (reading, writing, math, etc). So much is observation and me trying to “read” a situation or behavior so that I can assist them in regulation before they “flip their lid” (amygdala is triggered). This episode left me conflicted on what I’ve been taught and what I witness daily, in regards to emotions. It does take time being around a child before I learn their “tells”, but their facial expressions do help me to recognize when they are feeling certain emotions. Or at least check in with them about how they’re feeling. As a professor, I would assume you’ve looked out at a room of blank stares, and realized that you lost your audience and need to revisit certain concepts. Is that now faulty assumption? (As a side note, “pizza” does have two syllables but more than two phonemes).

[@danilabezmenov3489]

Nah, Lisa is just too hardcore of a constructivist who seems to be lacking experience working with animals and observing their rich emotional life like many evolutionary psychologists did. She has good insights, but is pedaling this constructivist perspective too much imho. I'm actually sad her perspective seems to become dominating as it slows down scientific progress and ignores a rich body of knowledge developed by people like panksepp, izard and damasio

[@_lirael]

@@danilabezmenov3489👏👏

[@hgue7378]

There’s no universal templates for emotions and facial expressions was my biggest take away. We all have a different ways of behaving when we feel an emotion, so it’s important to figure out a person’s baseline. How do they behave when not scared? Not anxious? Etc. then notice the difference when they are potentially feeling that way. I think you’re doing good analysis on those kids If there’s improvement in their symptoms keep doing what you know works

[@drjenburgess]

@@danilabezmenov3489 Do you really think she "ignores" their work? She discusses their work, critiques it, and does her own work too. Surely that's the very opposite of ignoring, that's engagement. She just disagrees.

[@jade4727]

I think you learn to recognise their emotions by experience with them. Isn’t that was Dr. Lisa actually said? More clear: by spending time (experience) with the kids you learn their facial expressions and their linked emotions. So this is in line with what was said here and not contrary in my view.

[@funygameur]

42:34 _"Maybe feeling good is in great part feeling rested and not being in physical pain." I think this extract, the way it's framed, is universal and unbelievably eye opening ; I've been asking to myself the same question for months since I've discovered the podcast. I know intuitively think that when I ''feel bad'' is really when I'm not well rest d and/or pain ; Except when I've just lived through an explosive moment - lately for exemple I nearly died in a fire, that made me ''feel bad''.

[@sophiafeddersen236]

Absolutely fascinating! I’m not a neuroscientist, so I’m probably getting a lot wrong here, but here are my thoughts. Makes me think of three things. 1.) The brain is a prediction machine. In order to make predictions it needs resources (glucose/calories.) 2.) Thinking in categories is an efficacy tool to save calories. The more uniqueness something has, the more effort is required. It is “expensive”, intellectually. 3.) Thinking that isn’t granular or is overly is associated with authoritarianism. 4.) Belief and mindset has an extraordinary impact on our ability to do hard tasks. 5.) in a world where humans think resources are scare, they may be more likely to adopt simpler heuristics to save on intellectual resources.

[@antonvannelli9085]

Everything in my work as a neuro programming specialist points to her being 100% right. The brain is absolutely a guessing machine, and you see this at work through all muscular systems/sequencing and how those sequences change post injury/post trauma/ or with enough repeated stimulus. Fascinating interview. The answer likely is the brain doesn't know what the right answer is, but the outcome is more important than perfect efficiency. This can, in my opinion, be 100% proven through how the brain deals with trauma, as well as how it deals with physical injury.

[@aa-fk6dy]

I wish this conversation would never end. So brilliant. Thank you.

[@NorthbertR]

That was absolutely amazing. I allowed myself to enjoy the whole conversation without stopping, but now I need to listen to that again at least a few more times with note-taking. It was a wealth of information. Thank you.

[@khkforest]

I listened to this at night and fell asleep....as you guys talked it kind of got into my dream and it was like you were speaking to me directly......I woke up feeling amazing .....revitalised.....thank you x

[@aaronl528]

I have to admit that I was about to stop about 30 minutes in, but I'm so glad I kept listening. Very enlightening episode and I will probably listen to this again.

[@haileynichelle8343]

At what point does she actually give practical information? Timestamp?

[@theDurgaLove]

​@@haileynichelle8343she is disappointing to say the least

[@poliuuuc]

Dr Lisa Feldman is a such an interesting researcher and convincing personality. Her description of our CNS is simply convincing and her tenderness (which first seems at odd with her rather sober description of our CNS) is even more. Thanks

[@anton_roos]

I read Lisa's book How Emotions Are made a few years ago! So awesome to see a podcast with her. Gave me goosebumps to hear her speak!

[@jodyforter7439]

The implications for clinical practice is mind boggling. This is changes so much around our assumptions about emotions this psychotherapy and psychopharmacology treatments. Deep dive into the material. Thank goodness these scientists can now give accessible, under stable applicable research and info to the general public. Free! Amazing time for neuroscience.

[@extraspongy]

Would Love to see Dr. Feldman back for another episode. This podcast brought me so many realisations and has been by far the most helpful and actionable. Thank you for all that you do.

[@Cj-jh2ud]

The question "Is language sufficient to communicate emotion" was a really great question Andrew! It's something I've been thinking about for a while

[@ezrakairoscano8766]

Lisa Feldman barret is a luminary of our times

[@marcmurphy6184]

This could not come at a better time, or at least when I listened to it this week. My former wife and I are grappling with our 17-year-olds education. We had him in public, then private, nothing seemed to be working. He is now homeschooled and works full time 3 days a week for a large and very successful trade company. They love him. He's getting paid, doing school (although he needs more there) and getting lessons in life. I've been grappling with alcoholism, and he has been my biggest advocate for repair. This young man is amazing, and I bought in to everything this content had to offer. Hopefully more folks who question the path, consider a new. You hiring?

[@borislibaque1558]

This is absolutely incredible. Thank you for bringing us this perspective, these lessons, this experience. I wish we were taught these things in school and much earlier in life. Its amazing to me that we just don't know how we work, and the degree to which we do isn't mainstream enough. I'm almost tempted to design something like a board game featuring the brain as a setting, the resources being perhaps nutrients, and the play pattern focused on optimizing those resources around changing conditions. I've had Dr.Felman's book on my to read list for a little while, and am now very eager to read it. Thanks for the inspiration.

[@tralala4200]

Love your idea for a game - you should do it before someone else does!

[@greenwhitepnion9211]

Wow, this is very eye opening for me as someone with emotional dysregulation problems. All this information is really shedding a new light on what emotions really are for me. Thank you Andrew Huberman (and his team) and Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett!

[@TheCamilaM]

Amazing episode! I think the German word is "Backpfeifengesicht"... In Portuguese, we have the word "saudade," which refers to a loving sad feeling of emptiness and absence, missing someone, a place, or a situation we have experienced.

[@littleminitinytejada]

Sounds like “wistful”

[@_Solmega]

@@littleminitinytejadaor nostalgia

[@amandadasilveiraneves4430]

❤

[@marie-luisemari5366]

In the South it is “Watschengesicht”

[@exenocap]

@TheCamilaM absolutely! I was thinking about saudade all along this podcast and it's so specific to Portuguese I haven't ever found something similar in French Spanish English or Italian. It's just not nostalgia, or melancholy but it's kinda related to a missing thing, or emptiness of some sort. ..

[@shevanz1589]

Ive listened to this podcast twicce now and still can not get over how good this was. I keep recommending this episode to people, its so good!

[@michellee5351]

Firstly, I would like to say I really enjoy listening to all of your podcasts and I am very thankful to you for sharing your knowledge Andrew. I definitely appreciate this particular podcast and the purpose of it especially if it helps us to understand and relate to “…others and the world in richer, more adaptive ways.” However, if I could share a great realization from my knowledge and experience that I think would greatly compliment the understanding of emotions and perhaps help give others a deeper understanding of our emotional states and reactivity to our outside environment. What I am talking about here is what I call the “Observer Mind.” I think of it as an evolutionary state of being that has been continually progressing within the human race. I believe there is no greater asset to human beings than gaining the ability to observe oneself. Keeping in mind, that there are varying degrees of self-observation. This Observer state gives us the capability to step outside of our programmed mind/memories in order to enable us to view our environment from a new, much higher perspective. When we gain the ability to move outside of our conditioning, we no longer see things from a subjective view but rather a higher, fresher perspective. There is no longer any ‘influence’ from the past driving our emotions and decisions in our present. When we achieve this level of awareness, we become freer from the constraints of our past wounds and/or acquired subpersonalities that no longer serve us. We become less reactive as a means of self-defense or preservation. This also enables us to look at our emotional states without denial. We then can respond more efficiently and effectively to each other and our environment. Ultimately, this leads to greater peace and harmony within ourselves and the world at large. Difficult to explain fully in the comment section. 😀

[@latentsea]

Very well said. Nailed it!

[@keyboardwarrior9406]

It sounds like you meditate

[@stvbrsn]

Yes, and that “observer” is the stillness, the center… the true self.

[@keyboardwarrior9406]

@@stvbrsn I also do, and I really think that specific skill you talk about is a superpower, and for some reason most people don't seem interested enough. Andrew do seems to be very interested in that approach though. To "become an observer of yourself"

[@michellee5351]

@@keyboardwarrior9406 `Superpower` is a very good word to describe it. I think some people are still too much in their heads/thinking mind and too caught up in their problems to realize this gift. It certainly is not easy to rise above our programming due to the strong emotions that accompanies it. However, with enough pain, most will make this realization eventually. I am an extremely analytical thinker so if I can do it anyone can but it took a lot of trial and error and I still have work to do. I can say with full confidence and certainty that this state of being is our greatest asset as humans. :)

[@jamieknapp9501]

Thank you Andrew Huberman for the time you take to pull together these compelling sessions with incredibly well educated, experienced and passionate scientists whose sole goal is to help the rest of us get a little better. It is much appreciated! My daughter loves this so much she is studying neuroscience in college!

[@lailaknight6620]

As a painter, it's hard to digest the idea that our brain is not wired for interpreting emotions. I can even see how people's faces are modeled by the emotion they "practice" the most during their lives. You can see it in the shape of the facial traits. You become what you are animated by. Of course, there are moments when we can not know one's emotions by just looking at their expression, but these moments are rare. And I think it would be a pity to dismiss intuition, energy exchange, and body language, just because we don't have yet scientific proof for it. Science can't always explain intuition and other more elevated forms of human knowledge.

[@keyboardwarrior9406]

True!!

[@felipeschneider1978]

Don't worry. What she says it's surprisingly total gibberish. Doesn't make sense in itself.

[@FatCrashTestDummy]

She didn't actually say that they are not wired for it. She said it does not come from genes alone. She also said that the probability of correctly interpreting it is lower than we think but that if you expose yourself to repeated interpretations your likelyhood of guessing correctly increases. Hence the example of her husband knowing what she is feeling. As an artist you are probably more accutely aware of your surroundings, you observe patterns and because of that you notice deviations quicker. You create art through YOUR interpretation of what you see. Your interpretation may be more accurate than the average person as you have more exposure. I think it adds strength and explanation to what you experience. She even says that you cannot interpret emotions through a face alone. I am sure you, as an artist do not do that, you take in the whole scene, which may be the energy and intuition you experience.

[@wishesandfishes]

​@@felipeschneider1978What about what she said is gibberish? That's quite a claim to make about one of the most respected experts on emotional research. She's among the top 1% cited scientists in the world.

[@wishesandfishes]

As an actor, I disagree with your interpretation somewhat - it's not that we aren't capable of making inferences about people's emotional states, it's that emotional states do not exist in biologically determined categories, and that we do not have hard wired, naturally occuring neural equipment to process them. This also aligns with my acting training - one of my best acting teachers warned us against relying on emotion to drive performance, because emotion does not reliably read on the face, body or voice. That's part of the reason Lee Strasberg style (The Method) acting training has dramatically dwindled in popularity.

[@Kudelit]

One of the best interviews I've watched in my short lifetime! It's both makes me happy, kind and also improves my understanding of psychology and emotions.

[@kanej7572]

In my opinion the body and emotions are definitely linked. Curling over definitely is associated with depression for me, and standing with strong posture definitely does provide feelings of empowerment. I don’t think anybody said that you can change one thing and completely change all of your emotions. The idea is that there are both internal and external things that can be done to shift emotional states. Certainly it’s contextual and that’s fine, but for the purpose of shifting emotion or changing state, standing tall often WILL change your emotions.

[@theDurgaLove]

She is very one-dimensional in her approach.

[@Manyhailmarysatatime]

Prayer allows us to support and help each others nervous system through love care and minimal judgment. Love this podcast. Thank you Doc Huberman!

[@cameliab.4752]

This episode is one of the few I watched without any break in between, taking notes actually. Very fluid, and enjoyable. I enjoyed it, even I am feverish, and I have a sore throat, a mild headache, and a runny nose. Or maybe because of all the above. Love it! Thank you! ❤

[@Deelitee]

I find this to be a treasure trove! Keep going back to it. A wealth of information. To those saying she’s tough. IDK, and I don’t mind it because they are both clearly inspired to help humanity and give effective solutions to the problems that be! She is interesting, but I find myself pulled toward her not away because of her heart’s passion for helping others. Of course, we all know that is true of the amazing Dr.H.🙌🌱❤️

[@valeriaalejandraseijastova2690]

I'm just so fascinated with every single episode of this podcast 🙌 Dr. Andrew, you're doing an amazing job sharing all this georgeos information for the general public that is interested in science and in all the possible ways that one can improve their lives... Thank you so much for every single amazing guest you bring to the podcast. This episode particularly was GREAT ✨💯

[@stellastika]

This is gold. You both are amazing, thank you so much for sharing your insights on the topic of emotions. I could listen to you for hours!

[@kataschott6697]

I am German-Hungarian bilingual. I don't know of any expression in German, however, in Hungarian there is one called "tenyérbemászó arca van", which translates into: "he/she's got a face that crawls into the palm of my hand". We use it to describe people who, in some way, look or act provoking :)

[@pascal7698]

There is a word "Ohrfeigengesicht" in German, but its one of those that appear in the dictionary but no one ever uses.

[@MS-he9rg]

Backpfeigengesicht is a word I've heard used more.

[@mtalke2]

Never used that in 43 years of being native German speaker. Not super common I would say

[@jackiemarie5202]

As a Neurodivergent person this has been interesting discussion to listen too through the lense of my masking with others & the way I physically move when not masking. That advice about smiling to feel happy has been a joke to me. I smile all the time when masking, it definitely doesn't make me feel happier. Eye contact is really intensely intimate for me so I shy away from it, I was accused of lying often as child due to this. I found my way to many of the words from other languages they talked about in the episode because english words just failed to help me express with others. Finding them brought me a lot if peace & self acceptance. Thank you both for what you do & sharing it with the masses.

[@Anita-wh4vr]

Thank you! So interesting!! Sidenote: The ACE study shows clearly that the body keeps the score.

[@EijaHaglund]

I am since long retired.Your podcasts and discussions give me unmeasurable pleasure as I adjust to my new state of health. Long walks in the woods are but a memory. I 2:39:03 listen and try understand even subjects which are away from my interest but widen my horizons and keep me in touch with current sience results.

[@mimi_thinks]

I can't stop thinking about how the body doesn't keep the score. this podcast never fails to keeps me on my toes.

[@parulsinha3092]

I am still not convinced I get that 😀

[@oksanakaido8437]

The brain keeps the score, but the body is the score card.

[@bhtey]

So good I have gone to pick up Dr Barrett’s books. This isn’t just an informative episode, it’s an amazing lesson.

[@joseluiscc]

Gracias a ambos por el esfuerzo y la calidad de este valioso ejercicio intelectual. Tendrá grandes beneficios en la calidad de vida de los oyentes. Felicitaciones

[@darka_shrstk]

Thank you so much for the podcast! I watched it with KZbin subtitles because I don't speak English well enough but I am infinitely grateful for you two and the information you shared!❤

[@marciasheldon3013]

My mind is 💡up!! I am a premium subscriber and this has been the most intellectually satisfying episode! My mind is delightfully buzzing with curiosity for more of LFB books and her wisdom! And you both delivered the info in such a fluid synchronous manner! You guys are kindred spirits!Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@nikoller]

Same here! It was intellectually delightful to grasp each idea, thanks to their amazing ability to articulate thoughts and make understandable such abstract and complicated concepts. Thank you both!

[@maplesyrupho3]

You put this perfectly ♥️

[@Topman0106]

Dr. Barret is wonderful. So down to earth and real. And very knowledgeable.

[@heyitsayo815]

This was a very interesting and insightful video. I’m a practicing DBT/ somatic therapist and there were certain things said I don’t agree with. From a DBT lens labeling emotions as good or bad are judgements and don’t capture a persons experience. Emotions have functions to communicate to ourselves and others. They are also used as motivators. Also I agree that the way people experience emotions are not black and white. Our environment really does shape the way we move through emotions. I’m very interested in reading her books to get a better understanding of her research and approach. Thank you again for such great content.

[@HonestTherapist]

Also a trained DBT clinician here. I feel like almost everything she said aligned perfectly. That emotions are complex, that they communicate something to us, and that they can be regulated. The last 1/4 of the podcast felt like just a deeper scientific breakdown of the “Check the facts skill,” by identifying our emotions, looking for different perspectives, then asking if that emotion is effective in getting what we want. I think she paraphrased it best by something like “arrange your butterflies accordingly.” Love it.

[@heyitsayo815]

@@HonestTherapist I agree there was a lot I agreed with, some statements I did not. All in all it was a great video.

[@mariominayag]

"i wrote that book for her" Thank you Lisa, Thank you Lisa's Daughter, Thank you Huberman. This brings a lot of mental organization and helps me understand whole new dimensions of things that have always been there, but being able to translate functions to words like this is as important as milk for a new born.

[@woohooflowers]

There is a good overlap with Iain McGilchrist's work on Left/Right brain. Lisa's comments are spot on for the left brain's representation of the world - grasping -. I would love to see it expand to presence - right brain - and experiencing the moment ( where it might get into more spiritual/less concrete domain )

[@melief469]

Chase, it’s very courageous of you to share this with everyone. As you’re my favorite panelist, I didn’t think my respect for you could get any greater. ❤ You’re a very special human being. Thank you for sharing.

[@92natereed]

Thank you for the consistency and true up to date information on the neuroscience. You made working out and staying healthy so much easier and more fulfilling knowing how it all correlates with our brain. You have really changed my outlook and gave me a passion to pursue a greater understanding. Keep up the great work

[@sadoche]

Started this while having dinner and ended watching the whole thing. Fascinating stuff.

[@CiaraWagner-j8s]

@hubermanlab I love your podcast and look forward to a new episode every week. Would like to suggest Caroline M. Myss as a guest. She is the author of Anatomy of Spirit. That again for your work. Truly amazing ❤️

[@midoann]

Shocked with all she wrote in her books and her videos, I’d had to review all what I was taught at the university and questioned all the techniques I use as a psychotherapist. . I’m so grateful to her 🇯🇵

[@ritsukohairsalon]

Great, she goes round and round to explain simple thing.

[@lilchurro3]

I listened to this a while ago when it came out, and one thing Dr. Feldman Barrett said has stuck ever since, about depression being a metabolic dysfunction. I've noted for a while that high amounts of stress can trigger particularly strong isolation and self-harming feelings, and since this episode, I've gotten more conscious about not letting busyness totally overrule my sleep schedule, and feeling less bad about (healthy) snacking as I work, so that at least I could knock some of the wind out of depression from the physical side.

[@anjalilakra15]

That part about language. I am actually learning a endangered language which is my native language and your piece just gave me a boost and motivation to learn it. Thank you :)

[@parulsinha3092]

Which language is it?

[@rithiksingh7490]

Please summarise the podcast please

[@StudyingTheMind]

this is unquestionably one of the best episodes of all time. Lisa is a GOAT! so much deep and insightful info here

[@MannyReyes]

When I'm writing code, I use a wine cork to bite down on so as to change the shape of my lips into a smile. The habit instantly makes me feel happier during my coding sessions. I read it in a book some time ago. Apparently, physical changes have an impact on your mental state. It's reigned true for me, so I thought I'd share. Ok I'm going back to listening to the podcast. 😀

[@ssnypzzct6479]

I’ve been reading her to so much and waiting for her to make the differentiation between “Affect” and “Emotion” and it came right at the end… I haven’t had hardly any sleep and I kept falling asleep towards end but I kept rewinding. I can wake up and start my day… fucking hell mannnnn

[@bselva]

I loved her book. Was the first one I felt could explain the brain to a regular person. I am a father of a 1 year old and I have found a few hints here and there about what is important to help a child’s brain to develop well. It would be great if you could do an episode on this topic.

[@finlay6504]

Can I ask which of her books in particular are you referring to?

[@bselva]

7 and 1/2 lessons about the brain

[@SSSSSS-sw7qx]

Milestone episode, thank you Andrew! I feel like hundreds of moments throughout the conversation left me in awe and litteraly made my mind take off toward so many other concepts, books, authors etc. that had caught my attention in the past. This conversation fascinated me like it rarely would be the case - even with very good podcasts, but Dr. Feldman has presented much more than highly valuable information, well-founded conviction, intellectual brilliance etc - there's a true human quality to her way of sharing all this which touched me beyond being glad to gain more knowledge. The whole complex of questions circling around what actually makes a specific experience/sensaition/feeling made me think back of one of your episodes where Déja-Vu was explained (alike sets of neurons firing like at one time in the past, correct?); the discussion about how sensations etc. can be sort of triggered by certain gestures (like smiling) made me think of one important "detail" in this sort of (self-)madulation: what counts is "meaning it" (the energy coming with one's behaviours vs. in this case meaningless semantics or structuralistic approaches, much like it works for example in dog education where the meaning of the command/word is equivalent to the purpose (the person puts into it; also, when you for muscle mass for example, what counts is the purpose you put into the execution of the exercise); one concept that I think didn't come up in the conversation is intuition: especially in the later parts of the interview (for example when Dr. Feldman talks about travelling to NZ to meet her daughter and closely escapes the shutdown of the borders thanks to her decision to leave rather sooner than later) i got curious to know how Dr. Feldman - and you - would locate intuitiion within the framework that was discussed. Thank you again, it was so inspiring and pleasant listening to this.