Dragons Offended by Former Police Sergeant’s Pitch | Dragons’ Den

[@guinnessharvey4476]

Peter always spots flaws that the others don’t pick up on. And when Peter points them out, the other dragons are like “yeah that’s outrageous!” 😂

[@rajahferrier7475]

Peter is a true assassin. Show wouldn't be the same without him

[@mathew3267]

Its not a flaw its just an egotistical perspective of looking at things. If Peter and this guy start a new shed company and this guy says hey I can get all of our supplies for a fraction of the cost, that would make perfect business sense. But since it was this guys second company doing it, it was egotistically viewed as an scheme by this guy. Who cares where he gets the wood from if its cheap and reliable.

[@pippaparsons4815]

so does debra

[@askhowiknow5527]

You don’t need to be the smartest guy in the room, you just need to be able to find the smartest guy in the room

[@gambler3k]

@@pippaparsons4815 de-nobrah

[@lankasur7942]

Peter "I'm interested in your other company" Jones

[@marigoldbells9581]

It's good that he's like that tbh because that's how he picks up on scams like this one

[@nyquist_control]

Well, if he didn't ask then he wouldn't have revealed how much of a bad business it iz

[@WaterbuffelNL]

That question has brought up so many bad things at pitches that by now it's a must-ask question. Both in terms when they're doing extremely good (then why do you need an investor?) or did extremely bad in the past (why won't that happen this time?). Sometimes it's annoying how much they drift from the actual pitch, but more often than not this question ends up being one of the most important ones.

[@michiel2047]

He was going to build 250K worth of unsold cabins with someone else's money, all to the profit of his main business and let the new business go under. This is almost fraudulent.

[@Ollie-lz5hr]

Police for ya

[@SuperJohnkimani]

It’s called business. If a dragon thinks there is an opportunity in that, we sign papers!

[@jasontownsend9460]

Sounds like a Ponzi scheme

[@marks.6480]

Almost?

[@LKeet6]

I don't accept that was what was going on here. his other business was already established, he came up with a new idea, out of that existing business, in a growing market, and wanted the dragons' contacts to help him scale it. the mistake he made, in my opinion, was to ask for WAY too much. If he'd been more honest, about the way the two businesses dovetail, asked for WAY less, like 50k, and for a bigger share, I think it would've been a good proposition.

[@AntiMatter930]

This guy has applied his police experience and has become a hustler himself

[@tarawalsh-arpaia3928]

He spent a lot of time in Court learning from m'learned friends.

[@collincovid6950]

From fitting up others he branched out into fitting up sheds

[@Ginjajoos]

@@tarawalsh-arpaia3928 😆

[@fontainehiggins3638]

True. It was a shakedown

[@Mohonnova]

@Andrew_koala those are big words for a supposed koala

[@EstrellaViajeViajero]

Telling an investor "I'll use 20k-30k of the 250k investment, and the rest I'll put in the bank" is not a persuasive argument. They could put it in the bank themselves without the risk of the business going under. Instead, they would rather reallocate that 220k to other businesses that have greater growth potential. He should have just asked for the 20k-30k he actually needed.

[@dingdingdingdiiiiing]

That irked me as well. He was asking a whole lot for a company that is entirely dependant on the other company he owns. And he doesn't actually have a plan past 30K. Did he expect the cottage lease would skyrocket very suddenly?

[@tomfarrell8434]

True.

[@curtislevey7639]

It's worse when you realise he would then be paying his own company with the money from his investors

[@llewelynshingler2173]

It would make me more inclined to "only" give 20-30k, since I don't want to give free money to folks who aren't utterly destitute

[@D-A-A-]

Why isn't it a good thing though you invest in his business if he doesn't use the money its sat in the bank which you'll get back after you're contract is up his business could take off and you could earn way more than what it's worth sat in the bank, I'm telling you now the dragons won't have their income sat I Banks for interest they don't give enough back

[@leemarshall4352]

I love how the dragons love it, right until Peter picks up on the 2nd business then they all go full attack

[@ToothlessDragon536]

There was an element of embarassment from them which fueled their anger. They were praising it until Peter spotted the fatal flaw and hustle. They wouldn't have figured it out and it showed.

[@blue24563]

It was probably edited that way. You’re not seeing the full programme.

[@olaoluwaadeyemo6939]

Peter always pokes into other businesses they own.. 😂.

[@BillionaireCEO]

Exactly he actually wants a cut of everything lols I remember an episode he wanted even the house 🏡 the guy bought alone 🤣

[@TEE1998]

The guy was trying to create a secondary business where the dragons put a quarter of a million pound in it evan tho his main business would take the profit obviously Peter wasn't interested in that

[@PhilosophyofElivagar]

@@TEE1998 I don't get how the main business would take the profit though? Surely it's the same thing as importing left-over timber from somewhere else, it's just that he happens to own the company that provides the raw materials?

[@troo_story]

@@TEE1998 yeah we get that. Thanks.

[@johnchapmonkey8933]

Someone need to say I want same amount of your business peter

[@ebengordon6074]

I usually don't like when Peter brings up the other businesses, but this time, it's basically the same business LOL

[@dennismijac8297]

But when asking that, he gets the whole picture

[@emmanuelezenwere]

very true

[@B_Bodziak]

I think they have every right to ask about other businesses. If someone isnt willing to use their own capital to finance whatever it is they are pitching, why should an investor?

[@liddybug8311]

@B Bodziak exactly. It drives me insane when people have their own money to invest but refuse and usually act offended by the very idea of risking their own money. Even worse when they want a salary out of the investment. People need to understand you usually don't make money in the beginning when you start your own business

[@umungus518]

Yeah I usually don't like it when they ask questions about the person they're gonna give 250,000 pounds to. I mean they should just be giving it away no questions asked.

[@finney932]

Dragon's Den youtube account knows exactly when we all take our dinner breaks and times their uploads accordingly, kudos!

[@jinaabaapsabkabaap6342]

It's lunchtime duh!!

[@irishjay9485]

Eating a cheese and ham sandwich atm for lunch

[@babbler1488]

Yeah and toilet breaks

[@MrFoxyDancing]

They've done this since the whole of lockdown haha

[@kacperfitness1357]

Facts aha

[@wisteela]

He was basically trying to con them. He just didn't want to spend his own money.

[@Mr.M1STER]

He's not the first one to try that either.

[@davidjames579]

He shouldn't have to. He might lose it.

[@alexoh9671]

@@davidjames579 Then why would he expect anyone else to put their money down? The intelligence of some people these days

[@davidjames579]

@@alexoh9671 Because they can afford to lose it. He can't.

[@SuperJohnkimani]

It’s called business, the day you open your eyes wider, is the day you’ll slap you resignation letter at your “bosses” desk!

[@thejuiceweasel]

Entrepeneur: "Well I have this other busin--" Peter Jones: "I'll give you the money for 90% of all your businesses combined."

[@Alec_Reaper]

"But what of his other company? Peter Jones wants to know." Lmao

[@olimot8081]

Of course he does lmao

[@Heydd00]

Every damn time.

[@MarcosRodrigues-pm1df]

Oh no, that other company is untouchable, Sorry dragon.

[@mariea82]

“I’ve not been born yet, therefore, I’m out” - Theo The foetus

[@supertramp6011]

When I get out,I’ll be out!🤣🤣

[@marigoldbells9581]

When Theo was born, he said "I'm out"

[@leahevehumphries]

I've seen this comment so many times but it always gets me 🤣🤣

[@gazza1196]

Superb comment sir.😂

[@pugernoufer]

And when Jenny was born, she said, "I'm out!"

[@rageagainstthemainstream2164]

They were all up for it until peter pointed out the scam lol

[@janeclarkson8471]

You’re wrong. They were all already out!

[@rageagainstthemainstream2164]

@@janeclarkson8471 thanks for your expert opinion

[@awinbisa]

@@janeclarkson8471they were impressed by the product and manufacturing cost.

[@arthurmorgan8529]

​@@janeclarkson8471no they weren't 😂 they were all looking interested until peter pointed that out

[@joakimsen87]

​@arthurmorgan8529that's every episode

[@TheJohnCooperShow]

Hillary was understandably excited as she thought it looked like her gingerbread house

[@williamking1905]

😂

[@CookieMonster-UK]

😂😂😂 I'm dead.

[@dionomed9144]

I can't believe she was only in early 50s here, she looks 70

[@alfisyahr]

you won the comment competition sir

[@NobodyInTraining]

😂😂😂 Hilarious

[@23clownshoes]

Once a bent copper, always one.

[@piggypooo]

Nonsense. Copper can be annealed and bent back into proper shape

[@jacksonirving4594]

@@piggypooo and can be polished.

[@marigoldbells9581]

Ted Hastings voice: bent coppers

[@fritzstudios8571]

Yep

[@dilwich]

Who would have thought an ex police officer would be dishonest eh?

[@IBIZABIKE]

Yes !, You could have knocked me down with a sledgehammer

[@david-pb4bi]

You can be sure nobody will investigate how a police officer created a two million pound business.

[@centralprocessingunit4988]

police lie a lot.

[@billkgeorge]

Faculty members of police officers invariably report bring in abusive relations

[@toffeelatte6042]

pigs

[@HEARTS-OF-SPACE]

I was hoping he would close the door and lock it after they all entered. "I want to play a game."

[@jimmorrison8203]

It seems like this guy was actually trying to scam investors

[@davesfilmingservices4377]

He's an ex copper that's why !

[@fontainehiggins3638]

True

[@KumaBean]

Not the first time I've seen people try to pull that stunt, lol

[@jlc5271]

@@davesfilmingservices4377 ha...ha.... :/

[@gonexgirl9372]

Long story short, he doesn’t need the money to allow his business to grow, he just doesn’t want to spend his own money to get it where it needs to be. He basically wants a freebie.

[@sadas3190]

I think it's even more cynical than that, I don't think he actually believed in the new business and just wanted to get 250K for nothing. Or put it another way, have the Dragons pay 250K to his other company to create a bunch of sheds that likely will rot in a warehouse somewhere.

[@S.Trades]

He's a copper....

[@Ben111778]

Straight off the bat, he says he has 50 of them already made and "allotted", and later on admits last year he only leased out half a dozen. He DID already try it on his own and failed miserably! Hmmm. He has 50 cabins, x$5000 a piece=$250,000! Coincidence?Sounds like he's trying to recover his company's losses by creating a shell company whose only assets are the 50 cabins. So that means a loan from a shark would cover his mills losses, and if the shark doesnt manage to make the business profitable by rent these things out, he gives the shell company and 50 cabins to the shark washing his hands of his failure and leaving the dragon to deal with the mess, and walks away with the $250,000! What a scam!

[@finncullimore9823]

what is a shark

[@ashen_kills]

@@finncullimore9823 A wingless dragon with fins, also a Dragon is a finless shark with wings

[@ChickenJoe12]

Don’t the investors do this when they tell them they can use their connections with the manufacturers they use to bring costs down? I’d assume they would be making money off the business they’re bringing to the manufacturer.

[@miaouew]

@@finncullimore9823 LOL

[@beeble2003]

@@finncullimore9823 The US version of the show is called "Shark Tank".

[@Lauren72382]

I'm willing to bet he was a "crooked cop" during his law enforcement years... He seems like a complete slime ball... The way he starts smirking when he's being called out on his shady business proposition, he knows what he's doing...

[@trakrekkid]

I noticed that too, so slimy

[@feelingevaporated2912]

ACAB

[@david-pb4bi]

You have to wonder how a police officer had time to create a two million pound business, you can be sure nobody will investigate.

[@13strange67]

He's a Scouser ! (more than halfway there)

[@tenzing2090]

He seems like a horrible person

[@Questionable_creations]

I'm a minute in, did he really say he uses worse material to lower cost? Which implies the quality. And it's a lease? I'm already out.

[@Alphoric]

Imagine if he went into the shed and just loudly cried after they didn’t invest

[@julieoluna8887]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@peanutmansemporiumofrandom7472]

I’d pay to watch.

[@olaoluwaadeyemo6939]

Wooh he is a police. Imagine him seeing theo or Peter running a red light😂👮‍♂️. Straight to a wooden jail he made.

[@RockyDave]

That would give them shingles.

[@xoSquidy]

I’m high so this is even funnier

[@Ilovewatchingsupernaturalparan]

Theo is a badass.

[@liamhenderson3753]

@@Ilovewatchingsupernaturalparan the foetus

[@BenjaminGoose]

@@Ilovewatchingsupernaturalparan Theo would be hiding in a bin.

[@lewisb85]

He’s right to ask because like Peter said it’s an offshoot of an existing company and not a company itself!

[@hellohello9400]

Classic Theo can’t think of the proper objection himself, waits for Peter to point out the glaring flaw (cuz he’s a boss), then gets all huffy and puffy acting like he’s the man who thought of it.

[@ThinWhite_Duke]

Yeah it's a bit embarrassing. Theo was acting all interested and then jumps on the bandwagon when Peter susses out what's going on

[@hellohello9400]

The Diddler in Chief worst part is he did it all the time too!

[@kimskis]

yup, he's a carbon copy of that Jackal who was brown-nosing Tiger in the children's Jungle Book lol

[@itaiweinberg4127]

Theo the fetus does it again

[@janeclarkson8471]

They’d all declared “out” BEFORE Peter’s objections!

[@joeypullen9436]

After this he went in the car park took their number plates, they were receiving tickets for a year lol

[@FlameFlickers]

Peter Jones is only interested in investing if he gets a piece of the existing multi million pound business? SHOCKER!! If you're going on DD, never tell Peter about any existing businesses you own!

[@surgicalslinky]

But if you don’t and he makes an offer, he’d find out about the other business during the due diligence process and you’d never get the money anyway because he’d call off the deal.

[@travisscavoni369]

Why wouldn't Peter want a piece of the existing company? The guy even said that a portion of the initial investment was going into upgrading equipment owned by the original company, and the rest would be used to ramp up production should the new business take off. Basically, the money the guy was was asking for was going into his original company.

[@twilightparanormalresearch186]

Yeah and so would you to make more money that’s how capitalism works

[@piggypooo]

@@travisscavoni369 the cops original business, whether it was doing well or not, had assets of 2 million. The cop ran a 2nd business (this pitch) that relied a bit on the resources of the 1st. The 2nd business had 0 assets. The dragons have business acumen. If the cop felt it was a homerun success on his 2nd business, he would have had assets from the 1st or a taken a bank loan to pursue it. Instead the numbers show that is not doing that great, atleast not yet, and so he want someone else to basically take 100% percent risk of pushing this business in the hopes that it might get lucky. There is 0 risk for the cop who's main business is untouched. I've noticed the dragons will go in on less promising pitches when they see how much the entrenpreur has poured his life and own money into it. This cop wasnt even willing to risk his own money or even a loan. And given the poor sales numbers it explains a lot. That's my take on it

[@triplemania5550]

@@piggypooo I suspect it's more than just that. The ex-cop doesn't need to share the profit from the first business, but the investor gets a cut from the profit of the second business. The first business delivers to the second business, *priced at his own discretion.* That gives him the opportunity to move money from the second business to the first business, maximizing the profit of the first business while minimizing the profit he needs to share. That's after he used the investor's money to upgrade equipment of the first business.

[@namnack]

He should have pitched this to Peter Jackson, not Peter Jones.

[@beijingbond]

This week's winner!

[@nigelcarren]

These look to be high quality, it is clearly not just a hobbit for him! 🤔 (Best I could do before the kettle boiled)

[@bankruptbritain6103]

Yes lol it looks like a Hobbit tool shed

[@liddybug8311]

Duncan laughing when Theo starts yelling at the guy is freaking hilarious 🤣

[@soilcredibility]

That is all Theo ever does. He's a fool.

[@AK-le7xn]

He literally attempted to launder their money :D

[@timflatus]

Holding a former police officer to account. Peter Jones I salute you!

[@Allthegoldandcash]

Yes!!

[@troogroove9318]

An ex copper that still thinks he can lie to people, it was lies every time he opened his mouth

[@jjthe13th]

Wow... This guy looks like EXACTLY what comes to mind when I think of a cop. Thumbs tucked in belt over a slight belly asking u to step out of the car tweaking his head to the walkie talkie on his shoulder

[@annajones9701]

Looks tough and dumb

[@rohilthomson]

You wouldn't know if they didn't tell you though🤷🏻‍♂️. It's just your brain imagining things.

[@annajones9701]

@@rohilthomson he looks like a bouncer

[@cellinimedusa4679]

Had that happen a lot, have you?

[@thexbriannova]

@@annajones9701 He's smart enough to be involved in a successful business and start another. Are you?

[@elizabethgrogan8553]

The moment he spoke about his existing business, I was out.

[@theovass10]

As soon as he said the waste wood from his other company is used I saw this going downhill very quickly 😂

[@IAmBuddythedecibwave]

If he'd just funded it himself, the guy would have at least been contributing to waste reduction...

[@martinworld7214]

'saw' it going downhill . I like what you may have done there :)

[@intrepidtomato]

I actually like that about the business. The sheds looked well made. Why not use what you have?

[@MiddayEnglishman]

@@intrepidtomato If the person was being genuine and offering a part of that company, this guy set up a second company to sell, basically his other company make it all and this new company is just a made up one to give to an investor.

[@final_animal]

It's basically a scam. Spend 100% of the dragon's money to build the cabins, the building of which profits his second company immensely, and then whether he ever rents any of the cabins out or not is irrelevent. He's already made his money and can let the shell company he's pitching to the dragon's go bust, and that's probably exactly what he'd do.@@intrepidtomato

[@troublesafoot7836]

With the whole “den” concept it makes so much more sense for them to come DOWN the stairs to meet the dragons, rather than up

[@Rae-xd2yb]

I’d imagine with the archetype of dragons and dragon slayers, it makes more sense for them to be upstairs because in traditional literature dragons dens are in mountains.

[@liamc1102]

@@Rae-xd2yb Very true Sir/Ma'am 👍

[@NorthernLab5]

I always thought that making them walk up the stairs, sometimes carrying their products, was another way of raising their heart rate, make them sweat and more likely to stumble and appear nervous in their pitch. It is a TV show after all

[@Beechbeach]

Dragon's loft 😆

[@elvickRULES]

The Canadian one is more like that. But it looks too much like a warehouse

[@brettsinclair6802]

They were unusually easy on him considering he was trying to rip them off

[@allisonday893]

Completely addicted to watching DD vids lately

[@knuckalar]

What the hell was the problem with asking what Peter would bring to the other company that he had already made successful himself, he had every right to ask

[@marcysikes]

Peter was showing his arrogance! Perhaps the entrepreneur should have done some research on the Dragons…..however it would have been a better move for Peter to share his vision for where he could take the whole company. At least that would have been interesting to me!

[@rvishnevski5409]

The obvious answer would be money... no? I mean if he wasn't a scam artist, he would've given out a chunk of his own company in order to push the new company. But he decided to go with little to no risk, which is quite an insult to any investor.

[@michael2908]

Totally agree. He didn't go in there looking to sell part of that company and it was already successful so he was well within his rights to ask that. It winds me up when the dragons always try to get their paws on every business the candidate owns.

[@rvishnevski5409]

@@michael2908 dude... he was doing a scheme... he wanted money for a made up company so he can get orders in his own company with investor money... come on...

[@michael2908]

@@rvishnevski5409 it looked that way. Doesn’t mean he’s not allowed to ask an investor what they’d bring to the table when they asked for a piece of his other company.

[@olaoluwaadeyemo6939]

Pretty smart what Peter did there by finding out this was a scam

[@nighTmareCSGO]

That’s why he is worth as much as he is hahaha

[@simongill4715]

Explains why he’s an ex copper, probably sacked

[@davidjames579]

It's not a scam. He's a former Officer Of The Law.

[@TheNoobchat]

@@davidjames579 Scam.

[@davidjames579]

@@TheNoobchat Look, he knows a lot about crooked dealings. That's why you can trust him.

[@Jamie-2004]

So it seems they are finally reposting the full pitches of the 5 minute clips that was uploaded 1-2 years ago

[@tomatoto64]

I hope they'll do the same with the "evangelical" entrepreneur.

[@lanpingpug]

@@tomatoto64 Who was that?

[@tackyjasper]

Really disappointed at the end that he didn't go and sit in the shed.

[@BLMeredith87]

"I'm out." "You're under arrest."

[@SRC267]

I had dragon fruit for lunch

[@pupplemupple]

same, wtf.

[@Fuckethead]

I’ll offer 5p for 30% of that, and your other existing fruits

[@MrHampat]

Is for me?

[@deborahpeters1597]

@@Fuckethead 😂

[@nighTmareCSGO]

Lmao

[@gavinthomas7375]

I think your pitch is outrageous says the women in full panto clobber.

[@NoobFLProducer]

She looks like a withered old witch lmao and she sounds like one to, tbh :D

[@patu2175]

I like her and her style tho 🥰

[@gavinthomas7375]

@@patu2175 oh no you don't.

[@johnmc3862]

Wicked witch of the West.

[@gavinthomas7375]

@@johnmc3862 oh no she's not.

[@callesierra]

“ Have you LEASED any so far?” “We’ve ALLOCATED 50”. Very tricky answer, ALLOCATED!!!!??????? Don’t trust him,he’s a slick talker.

[@collincovid6950]

Allocated. Still thinks he is in the police. From fitting up the general public to fitting up sheds

[@joshpiotrowski3487]

He's not a slick talker, he's a cop, straight up liar

[@MitchellTF]

@@originalvegoman ...I saw the OJ trials...In America? We have a SERIOUS lying cop problem...

[@alexwinter6720]

A true English police officer

[@free_gold4467]

A swizzler.

[@mendaciousreality8459]

We don’t call em pigs for no reason!!

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

Narrator: the new guest walks down the stairs instead of up. The dragons look insulted. Narrator: the guest says hello and the dragons are infuriated. When are they ever NOT looking insulted.....

[@ghamandlupinwalkingtours]

When it's a good pitch, business and product?

[@Redbird-UJ76]

It's part of the appeal of the show to watch unprepared people get dragon breath.

[@garypollard1821]

Marginally dishonest, and entirely deceptive. I could have guessed he was a police officer.

[@elloowu6293]

200,000 POUNDS!? How heavy is British money?

[@witchwaynow7572]

That's actually quite funny. Another thing that is funny is the fact that the USA is the only place that uses the British imperial system of measurement..😆🇬🇧

[@kirishima638]

@@witchwaynow7572Gee I can’t imagine why…

[@alwoo5645]

£1 was a pound of silver in the past

[@elloowu6293]

@witchwaynow7572 Yea because it's better and faster

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

Jenny would have loved this outhouse. Perhaps she's hiding inside

[@danieltramp7432]

She can't be inside, she's always out.

[@sirlionel3381]

The out jokes are such high quality

[@HoneyBadgarDontGive]

Theo saying cigars on a Caribbean beach got me cracking up😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@benjaminjacob9270]

To this day, his left hand is still in his pocket

[@buzzcomber]

“I can’t say anymore” - proceeds to speak further.

[@frederickbowdler8169]

Who wants to sleep in hAlf an upturned boat anyway?

[@lisetravis]

I might if the price was right. Could be fun.

[@Natedawg38]

Seriously what is with that reptile with the shoulder pads. Stuff of nightmares.

[@gohumberto]

"I can make these in my existing shed factory for £1000 and sell them for £7000" Everyone - "Well go and do it then... goodbye"

[@MCorrigan]

A police officer who isn't upfront. Surprise, surprise!

[@DricusDuPlessis185]

Mark i need you to pitch Project Zeus

[@MCorrigan]

@@DricusDuPlessis185 what is the meaning of Project Zeus?

[@DricusDuPlessis185]

@@MCorrigan have you watched peep show?

[@MCorrigan]

@@DricusDuPlessis185 Watched it? I was in it!

[@DricusDuPlessis185]

@@MCorrigan then you should know what project zeus is

[@notwhereyouthink]

That's one ex-copper that got badly arrested.

[@jacksonirving4594]

These huts have really taken off in the lake district, providing you own the land and get the necessary planing permission. They come with hot tubs peace and quiet and beautiful views...

[@redrob6026]

He's pricing Labour at 30 quid? Is it going to take someone half an hour to build it?

[@MrFoxyDancing]

This is one of those ideas that in business theory sounds kind of okay but in practice is utter madness.

[@mrfish9876]

The business was sound, the problem was he was trying to scam the dragons.

[@dabotta9793]

Peter " what's your other businesses" Jones

[@DanielCardei]

You either retire a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the criminal you chase.

[@ianlister7333]

he could have made so much money in 2020, assuming he could get stock over from Poland of course. However its crazy to think Dragons would only invest in the heir company, that can only exisit because of the smart use of waste product, which means the two firms are so tied together, he could not make those at that price point, without his other firm creating that waste product.

[@pierricbross]

I think overall point is, the guy runs a successful business with a decent amount of assets. If this cabin business was going to do well he could have easily taken out a business loan for the 250k and done it. So to not do that it shows there is a high level of risk involved because even the businessman isn't confident it can work. So why invest?

[@ianlister7333]

@@pierricbross yeah that is part of it, but in fairness, its easy to see how a Dragon could help him grow his customer base, Deborah being his best bet. That might even be experience he lacks, and does want help with, in a genuine way

[@fieldy409]

You don't get it. He was trying to create a new business with their money and then if he wanted to he could just suck it dry and close the new business and then keep going with his original business having absorbed millions. The dragons are then left with a lost investment. In other words he takes their money and pays himself for work that doesn't need doing. He as a person can't lose when he pays himself for the materials, only the dragon can lose.

[@adamsmith6594]

No he could make them cheaper. He used off cuts from existing sheds. But they have to be sorted and catalogued and labour is much extra because of fitting. He made lig cabins and sheds. These would be higher spec so the return would be more and hebwould shift dynamic to these and shepherd huts. So Peter was foolish really because he should have done a deal, installed some team to learn and then created a company following this template but streamlined. With his contacts he could have shaved costs at one end and heaped on the price the other end. Maybe he did.

[@MrMikeyj81]

@@adamsmith6594 😂😂🤣🤣

[@escfxp]

Duncan Hammertime has some nice bracelets in this episode.

[@christschool]

Is that a gargoyle at 1:15?

[@Janinebignell]

"Hi, my name's Glen. Police-d ta meet ya!"

[@harrymartin684]

Duncan really is as sharp as a razor beneth his grumpy, hungover facade

[@toniroberts8117]

I love those little houses for camping but I really like the one’s called yurts. They resemble a large teepee. That’s incredible he can build those for around $1k each. Hopefully they are well made. I’d prefer one probably twice that size. Very cool product.

[@kellie5476]

Yes, I've seen some beautiful yurts in Hawaii.

[@jasonnorth2728]

Yurts are canvas

[@laxeystu8096]

It's 250k for 30% of nothing, with no track record, assets sales etc. He was offering them a 'get rich quick' investment, rather than a business development opportunity

[@sneakybiscuit5830]

Deborah showing the camera some love at the start 👀

[@sammuddel7751]

Lmao she looks spicy in this one!

[@ryanpalmer2483]

swear shes got fitter with age

[@sammuddel7751]

She would def be the one in charge!

[@ryanpalmer2483]

@@sammuddel7751she then proceeds to grab her diamond laced golden handcuff from her bedside table

[@Jusdippin78]

Thanks alot everybody.....now i cant hear theo’s name without saying theo the fetus. Arghhhhhh

[@stephenfox8685]

That joke's as old as the show.

[@junkyardwulf2874]

I knew I shouldn't have read the comments

[@BiggusNickus]

I'll do you one better. You can now never hear Peter's name again without hearing "Pizza Jones".

[@Bike_Lion]

It always sounds to me like they're saying "Theo Perfidus"

[@tmrevenge]

Theo hepatitis

[@petenova]

As a matter of interest, is it "acceptable" to have a hand in your pocket when giving business presentation?

[@edwardoleyba3075]

Probably not. It’s kind of sending a “psychological signal” like you’re hiding something?

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

*Slight of hand* 😎

[@piggypooo]

Only when you have a single business is it acceptable to put a hand in your pocket. In this situation, the cop had 2 businesses. The one he was pitching with was his free hand... waving it "hey looky over here at this hand where the scam with 0 assets is. Don't look at my other hand where my real business is..its hidden deep in my pocket" 🤣

[@pauloliver6813]

Indeed. Or the top button of your shirt undone while wearing a tie?

[@THEPOLITICALBUSINESSMANYT]

Thought he was going to lock them in, take the money and leave 🤣

[@hithisthers7214]

He was playing semantics to avoid directly answering questions. Good on peter for picking that up

[@halomena]

What's for lunch crew? Pesto pasta here

[@04smallmj]

Pot Noodle here :D

[@Anna.T.]

Avocado 🥑 toast and halloumi salad 🥗 here.

[@TobyBanci]

Scrambled eggs and bacon

[@sirKAA]

Spaghetti with tuna, cream and dried tomatoes

[@Ryanjoned163]

Watermelon and peaches in the garden in the sun

[@mmckenzie8085]

Good old Peter. Always astute and very little gets past him.

[@KimberlyArwen]

Deborah's necklace is gorgeous.

[@colbysmith5825]

Deborah is SMOKING in this episode

[@AgamemnonVsSocratesAandS]

I need a rich Dommy Mommy in my life

[@mattberg6816]

What he needed was a line of credit from a bank. That way when he needed money for materials and labor for the sawdust shed orders he could cover without anything out of pocket.

[@RosieWoolf]

Peter sussed him out.

[@breakingaustin]

Peter was never gonna invest in any of his business, he just wanted to ppove what a little snake he was by saying no XD

[@joshkaid]

Why is Dragon's Den so much more ominous than Shark Tank. Like, when the entrepreneurs show up in the Tank it feels hopeful. When people show up to the Den there's a sense of "this isn't gonna go well."

[@vanessac1721]

Because Americans are cheerful and vapid. Whereas Brits are dour and serious.

[@nikkicole3331]

It always gets me how ridiculous these people are who have generally no business sense and no money ask a Dragon, "what will you bring to the business?" I'd love to hear one say, "I'm a billionaire and you're not so....."

[@Akenfelds1]

I think Peter was getting ready to counter-scam a scammer.

[@wegapaul3616]

O snap! Sergeant is having a hard time with other people asking the questions!

[@harryrock169]

Peter Jones is very intelligently clever by igniting the fire works on the pitchers entire business and then the rest explode! (This DD episode looks like a charity version setup similar to the one I watched with Jeremy Clarkson. So funny!

[@SouthpawJoe]

Intelligently and clever have the same meanings... Drop one from the sentence my guy.

[@JXDDXRY-]

intelligently clever isn’t an intelligently clever pairing of words…

[@upsonpratt6394]

Glen needs to get Fredy Vasilev to make self-filling baths for all his cabins.

[@campbellanderson2100]

Not good to present your pitch with your hands in your pockets.

[@kiriakoz]

I miss Duncan, he's the best. Straight to the point. Only dragon I really like.

[@ryanhulse3791]

When can we get some full episodes uploaded ?

[@lanceanz]

He could at least have farewelled the Dragons with a cordial "Evening all". 😉

[@chopin7572]

Surprised Theo wasn't worried about someone locking themself inside

[@iancampbell9297]

Peter "what's your business worth "? Now go to the back and give Me your suit.. I'll give him his dues Peter was bang on with this one..

[@MrMaddox57]

Peter better watch that ATTITUDE or he goin' ta jaaaaaaail, goin' ta jaaaaaaail lol

[@MightyJonE]

Paul Whitehouse’s impression of Theo in this sketch was so well-observed and realistic!

[@anjotheweezky215]

Peter is super smart because he doesn't talk much and analyzes more... True Business man