Drinker's Chasers - Is Disney Bad At Star Wars? Strangely Enough, Yes

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

"Is Disney bad at Star Wars?" Yes. Yes, they are. They're also bad at everything else they make these days.

[@mastpg]

Hey, that's not fair. The $150 stuffed animals at the store in the Orlando airport are quite nice.

[@Xurelbes]

Yes, it's far from surprisingly!

[@soaringeagle5418]

Now, that's not entirely true. They are very good at making excuses for why they fail.

[@MMCUSN]

What they are good at would be the shorter answer. From "When you wish upon a Star" to "Woke is what makes you cringe".

[@Declopse]

They're good at making Star Wars just not good that they're teaming with their stakeholders like BlackRock, Vanguard for putting woke agenda injecting it in movie franchises

[@och70]

If Disney was only “bad” at Star Wars, that would be a huge improvement.

[@harrybhatia6331]

😊

[@frankgesuele6298]

True. Better 2B thought of as just idiots as oppose to woke morons.

[@MedalionDS9]

As in the 80's meaning of 'bad'... like 'who's bad?"

[@jacobdavis3876]

Bad is the sand dialogue in Attack of the Clones. Those romance scenes are still so dull and sleep-inducing, even taking into consideration how abysmal the Disney movies got. What happened to Luke / Jake was a nightmare no fan should've gone through.

[@jerryhorton5708]

So bad in fact, that their kickoff post-purchase was a nearly scene for scene remake of the 1977 classic as far as the plot goes. That was barely watchable and it only got worse from there. Disney has taken a beloved franchise and murdered it

[@TheWarmachine375]

With Acolyte show cancelled, Darth Plagueis is stuck standing behind the cave's walls for eternity.

[@gungaloscrungalo8925]

Probably for the best. He doesn't deserve to be subjected to whatever these showrunners had planned for him.

[@skylx0812]

...throbbing

[@DrYu-jf6tb]

didnt he noclip into the backrooms to escape the show ? thats my Canons anyways.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@DrYu-jf6tb Good for him.

[@krissteel4074]

He couldn't save this show... from dying

[@zacharyeicher390]

Disney acquired LucasFilm 12 years ago. 12 YEARS of pain and suffering.

[@Zzues]

Disney is the Dark Side.

[@HowToChangeName]

Im having brain aneurysm seeing how Disney managed to turn Lucasfilm, the most profitable IP ever known into basically CW.

[@ultrademigod]

@@HowToChangeName The CW except everything costs £200 million to make

[@Сайтамен]

If we go by Star Wars, we have 11 more years to wait until the Empire is crushed...

[@vlada]

F**k Georges for selling and f*** him for Kathleen Kennedy.

[@chance_ondriezek99]

The reaction to the Rey movie confirms that Star Wars fans have reached peak apathy.

[@chasehedges6775]

It started with Book Of Boba Fett, IMO

[@chasehedges6775]

They should have stopped after Mandalorian Season 2, honestly

[@hadtopicausername]

If anyone had told me way back in the day that anything Star Wars could be received with apathy, I would have thought they were nuts. But here we are.

[@JasonJJS]

​@@hadtopicausernameIn 1999 that would have been unthinkable.(With all the hype building around the prequel trilogy.)

[@hadtopicausername]

@@JasonJJS I'm thinking back to when Episode IV was shown for the first time on TV here. I think I was five, and my parents let me stay up late that night to watch it. Star Wars was just the coolest thing ever, and for me it stayed that way for a very long time. But now, all this new stuff just makes me go meh.

[@Awakened_Mucacha]

Star Wars should have been a slam dunk. It is laughable how Disney has only dropped the ball consistently.

[@chasehedges6775]

IKR😞😞

[@SUPREMELEGEND]

It’s like it had to be on purpose to be this bad. Many think it was...

[@soaringeagle5418]

They did slam dunk it but it was a lego death star and when it hit the concrete......

[@TerribleFire]

They did it on purpose because the one thing that triggers women is if men are happy

[@vardiganxpl1698]

And thew few successes they had was when there were people who were least influenced by Disney

[@SqueakingLion]

I love that the Hollywood Reporter said no, Disney isn't bad at Star Wars. Talk about being completely clueless about your own industry...

[@hectoraccented5312]

Or well paid by it to only put propaganda, not journalism. I doubt that someone "intelligent" enough to put out an somewhat readable article can't see what happened with Disney Star Wars

[@soaringeagle5418]

That's because the Hollywood Reporter is bad at reporting.

[@HowToChangeName]

Maybe they also bad at journalism

[@jahrta]

What good is their propaganda when no one cares about what the Hollywood Reporter has to say, and everyone already knows that Disney doesn't know WTF they're doing these days? A blind squirrel could tell you that Disney star wars is absolute dogshit

[@Fledermausmann]

I don't think the fan base will ever forgive JJ and Kathleen for never having had Luke, Han and Leia (and, of course, Chewie) on screen one last time. With the passing of both Carrie Fisher and Peter Mayhew, it's now impossible as well. I'm pretty sure that's all most people wanted. And then they just decided to add insult to injury throughout their tenure as stewards of Star Wars. I mean the end of the third movie, Rey - the last Palpatine- has successfully managed to not only extinguish the Skywalker line but also steal their name and profession. Thanks again, JJ.

[@pivolboy9370]

The Hollywood Reporter is so far behind they're still using Internet Explorer.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Netscape, m'man. They're still Netscape.

[@johannderjager4146]

​@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid...on dial-up.

[@EricGiby]

@@johannderjager4146 ..watching it with a 15' CRT monitor.

[@soaringeagle5418]

and an 8 bit processor with 4k of RAM.

[@garysuarez9614]

On a k-flex modem.

[@steveouk90126]

I remember that scene from Robocop 2, where the board was discussing how they could "improve" Robo and ended up overwhelming him with garbage directives. They, who had no investment in the Robocop program and knew nothing about it, responded emotionally on their slightest whims. Pulled in too many different directions and contradictory commands, he became useless trying to please everyone at once. Eventually Robo saved himself by frying his own circuits and clearing it all out, resetting his brain back to regular cop.

[@myoldmate]

This is the problem with a top-down hierarchy. The idiots in charge, in their safe place, insulated from the impact of their decisions, pat themselves on the back for a job well done.

[@theauntofdragons]

I never thought of that, Grogu IS bigger than Rey. I've literally never seen a Rey action figure, and I work next to a toy store.

[@MaryRohwer]

I've seen Baby Yodas everywhere and I've never even seen the movie.

[@soaringeagle5418]

You can only find Rey figures at Ollies.

[@kingt0295]

To be fair he’s a purposely cutesy character, I’ve seen tonnes of little baby groot toys compared to Star-Lord and Gamora lol but you’re right overall.

[@skepticalsmurf]

I actually have a Rey figure,after TFA l had high hopes,that ended quickly w TLJ 😬

[@Eirik_Bloodaxe]

Kylo and whatever the Chrometrooper’s name was were really the only two characters that had a strong enough visual presence to sell toys lol.

[@kennypcolin]

Disney and Kennedy have generally been attempting to apply ideas or templates from outside Star Wars to it rather than seeking stories within it. Also when initial idea or writers are trash, its a story doomed.

[@user-he5me9td1t]

Star Wars is beyond hope after what Disney, Kennedy and Filoni have done to it.

[@Herbert-dy1uf]

No Luke, no Vader, no Yoda, no Solo, no C-3PO, no R2-D2, no Chewbacca, no Leia, no Maul. No storm troopers, tuscan raiders, jawas. No A wings, B wings X wings Y wings, no speeders, AT-ATs, AT-STs, no Death Star, no Star Destroyers. It might have the title of Star Wars, but to me it's unrecognisable.

[@archmage_of_the_aether]

All I need is a Galactic Empire, stormtroopers, and a feisty resistance of some sort. I'd've preferred if they never went back to Tatooine, for example. If they never gave us any memberberry plots.

[@ieuanhunt552]

You just described KOTOR 2. Which is my favourite Star Wars media.

[@Сайтамен]

Disney uses all if those as much as possible. But with bad writing even that doesn't work anymore.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Сайтамен 💯💯. Exactly

[@danielmacdonald9287]

Andor has none of that. It doesn't even have lightsabers (if I recall correctly) and it was great. It's horrific writing that's ruined Star Wars, not missing any of those things.

[@PEMDASgarage]

Disney is the Boeing of entertainment.

[@quyiter]

Boeing makes the F-15EX Eagle II. What has Disney actually made that is anywhere near the best fighter in existence?

[@Gooch7714]

@@quyiterI think he’s referring to present day Boeing. You can argue that the Disney classics would be the equivalent to Boeings best fighter jet in this analogy.

[@thomasbecker9676]

@@quyiter Boeing's military and commercial programs are in their own silos.

[@michaellane5381]

​@@Gooch7714present day Boeing is just the incompetence of their last big acquisition though... Arguing it's a "Boeing" problem is like arguing modern Disney sucks because "Fox" or "Lucasfilm".

[@HowToChangeName]

​@@quyiterjust like Boeing, Disney went from creative driven into investor driver and you can see how the quality suffer

[@GregTurismo]

Are they bad? No. They are god awful. Imagine having multiple S tier level properties and not only pissing the bed, but completely losing track of where you came from in the first place. Good grief.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯 Exactly

[@tylergoodman3560]

Disney acquiring Star Wars was the worst thing to happen to the IP. There have been a few decent shows, but that's it. 🎉

[@clayleonard7005]

A few decent shows?? You’re part of the problem

[@tylergoodman3560]

@@clayleonard7005 I'm talking about Andor. 🎉

[@zacharyeicher390]

I'd argue Andor was the ONLY decent thing we got out of this deal.

[@dontshootmex5588]

Andor and some episodes of TCW season 7 and Mando season 1 were good, but that's about it

[@pistolbobcat420]

@@dontshootmex5588and clone wars season 7 doesn’t deserve disney credit because most of these episodes were written long ago before the show was initially cancelled . The rafa and trace arc though *barf*

[@youareivan]

i think the real issue is that disney is bad at boys.

[@YourRaincloud]

Oh this. This right here. They bought boy brands and attempted to morph them into “girl” brands or “everyone” brands. They failed fantastically.

[@domomonstero3077]

And girls. Every Star Wars female is written like an entitled, infallible and contradictory whiny baby.

[@YTAG33]

That is really hitting the nail on the head. There is a cultural shift starting apparently 8 years ago where traditional hero story arcs for males are are downplayed. Star Wars Rebels is now 10 years old and is exactly that type of traditional story where a young male protagonist learns to become the hero, like a Shonen, or like A New Hope. In 2024 they took the same character and put him in live action where he has been doing nothing for years but waiting to be rescued by the female protagonists who then barely give him the time of day and send him on his way so they can do more important things without him.

[@derkeheath5172]

That's always been the case, except during that short period in the late 70s/early 80s when Disney got super dark with Black Hole, Tron, Something Wicked..., Dragonslayer, etc.

[@Nero_Jero]

The funny thing is the vast majority of their animated films have always been targeted towards girls but they've still been enjoyed by everyone. Even in the 90s girl boss era with Pocahontas, Mulan, and Belle. They didn't need to keep pushing beyond that.

[@paulmd7747]

KK destroyed Star Wars. She really must have hated George Lucas.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯💯Indeed. It feels visceral.

[@chasehedges6775]

Along with the people who disliked the prequels back in 1999 to 2005.

[@vlada]

The larger blame goes to Georges for her being in thst position.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@vlada Maybe so but still....

[@stevenesbitt3528]

If anything she has made him look an absolute genius, even the prequels have been redeemed

[@Destroyer94100]

They would have to de canonise the sequels and get rid of woke garbage to make Star Wars worth watching now. Things that they aren’t willing to do.

[@evertonporter7887]

How can they do that now? Unless they recast the roles of Luke, Han and Leia. Especially Leia.

[@Nickle_King]

Disney’s like an alchemist who was given a philosophers stone AND the recipe to make more. Then they broke the stone into smaller and smaller chucks, somehow expecting each fragment to be as good as the whole, and scribbled “PROBLEMATIC” all over the recipe.

[@adamjenkins7653]

Well... it WAS written by a white guy.

[@taudvore259]

Sorry to be that guy, but in Fullmetal Alchemist the recipe genuinely was problematic. Not just twitter level, actually a problem. I know you were just using a metaphor but my autistic ass couldn’t let it stand. Sorry.

[@adamjenkins7653]

@@taudvore259 If I remember rightly it was large quantities of human souls, no? That is in and of itself problematic I agree.

[@Nickle_King]

@@taudvore259 Was talking the practice in reality. Mostly because the Brotherhood method is what they're doing right now. With Kathleen Kennedy playing the role of Shou Tucker.

[@beefgoat80]

My wife's cousin and her husband went to that Star Wars hotel. He's a hedge fund manager. He said he could tell it would never make money. He said it was a great experience, but with all the staff and everything Disney needed to pull it off obviously cost an insane amount of money.

[@DizzyPanda25]

I knew Star Wars was fucked when we got a sequel film with Mark, Carrie, and Harrison back and they never reunite in the same scene. Then Carrie fishier sadly passed away and I knew we truly were in the worst timeline for Star Wars.

[@morrisbeauregard286]

Genuinely, the only way for anyone to care about Star Wars again is: 1. For Disney to not own it. 2. For the new owners to say "Everything made after 2014 is now non-canon." 3. Follow it up with a good movie. We can't have movies based on the New Republic Era, that ship has sailed, but there's plenty of other good material that can be adapted. I'd start with The Old Republic era. As it stands, I think I'll probably be dead before any of that comes even close to happening.

[@greyfriars6540]

At this stage we should just be grateful we've got the good Star Wars and Indiana Jones movies. Disney have shagged the life out of the franchises and the original stars like Hamill and Ford trashed their legacy. There's no going back.

[@soaringeagle5418]

They've milked all the green juice out of it.

[@robgreive3657]

Star Wars is Episodes I - VI 'nuff said.

[@Soup-man]

There's some other good things. Knights of the Old Republic is good too. But yeah, those are the only movies in canon in my mind.

[@TheNotoriousMrDee]

I did my share of complaining about the prequels, but I still loved everything Lucas made. Disney Wars has no heart.

[@danielmacdonald9287]

Add in Andor and Rogue One and you've got a pretty good (great at some points) 8-part story there.

[@siriusczech]

@@danielmacdonald9287 true

[@mastpg]

Disney had no plan for continuing the narrative and thematic continuity of Star Wars and almost no plan for expanding on it. They had a power planet for feeding content production. Star Wars had an audience recognition multiple. Those were the ONLY two elements they considered, and they assumed that the broke man's with bankruptcy non-dischargable debt and syphilis Speilberg could execute on a non-vision, since he's never directed a movie with a discernible vision before. Disney's entire Star Wars legacy is baby Yoda, Andor and half credit for Rogue One....after a decade and hundreds of millions of dollars in underperforming projects.

[@johannderjager4146]

Hundreds of millions? Try BILLIONS in underperforming projects.

[@mastpg]

@@johannderjager4146 ....bit vaguely worded, but I meant that the projects' total underperformance was in the hundreds of millions. You think there have been multiple billions? Don't think they've been missing out on $200-300M per year, especially considering the fact that their early efforts did decently well financially because they were being given the benefit of the doubt by fans.

[@bruhdon4748]

Asking if Disney is bad at Star Wars is like asking if water is wet lmao

[@ShogunOrta]

Yeah they dragged Ridley out to promote the Rey movie, so it's understandable to think they will proceed with it, but..........they had Patty Jenkins do a whole trailer presentation with full CGI effects promoting her Rogue Squadron movie....and that prob ain't happening.

[@bluemutt9964]

Sad cuz I would've preferred rogue squadron over any recent sw show just for how enthusiastic she was about how she's loved fighter jets since she was a little girl and making her dad proud

[@PBRatLord]

​@@bluemutt9964dear God no, please no. I adore those books, do NOT let D+ adapt them. Patty can give all the lip service she wants, I do not believe her. She wants to impress her father, she doesn't care about Rogue Squadron.

[@kerravon4159]

Chris Gore is right, when I hear that Daisy Ridley will be in any project, I just couldn't care less. Zero excitement, zero draw.

[@kenamaro3942]

My disinterest in Star Wars just so happens to coincide with Disney taking charge...

[@earthlingcarl3179]

Daisy Ridley can't carry a Star Wars film on her own.

[@InfiniteMonkeysSA]

0:40 you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink

[@cynthiajohnson9412]

We've got skulls on our badges? Are we the baddies? Meanwhile in another bat time, on another bat channel, Disney asks: Everyone seems to hate us and they have for a while, could _we_ be producing bad content?

[@seanholmes6791]

Their animated shows are mostly superb. Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, love them all.

[@Mr_Robotts]

12:14 ...9 star wars movies? Nah, there are 6 main movies, then there's Disney Wars, which is a non-canonical alternate soulless reality

[@johannderjager4146]

@@Mr_Robotts like how Bethesda's Fallout is non-canonical to OG Fallout.

[@kayne8222]

Its crazy how bad self awareness is in hollywood and journalism

[@TheWarmachine375]

Everyone to the Prequel Trilogy: "Perhaps we treated you too harshly."

[@chasehedges6775]

Revenge Of The Sith is still the best Star Wars movie and the best of the Prequels, IMO.

[@chasehedges6775]

The prequels: “Now you see Me, brother.”

[@TheTrueRandomGamer]

"Just because I took a shit today, it doesn't make the shit I took yesterday any less of a shit."

[@mertc8050]

Revenge of the sith is the best star wars movie e1 and e2 had very good ideas but definetly executed poorly

[@lostalone9320]

I genuinely like the Prequels, yes even Phantom Menace. Phantom Menace has heart, you know? It has too much Anakin and way too much Jar-jar, but it has moments that genuinely are stirring and exciting and evoke this world.

[@pistolbobcat420]

Currently playing Lucasarts era games like Battlefront on ps2, Jedi power battles and Bounty Hunter. Man Star Wars in the mid 2000’s was fire, hot like a mustafar cafe

[@Whookieee]

That Hollywood Reporter headline is giving "are we the baddies?"

[@davidcoleman757]

This is an outstandingly eloquent and cogent essay and I very much appreciate your referencing Tolkien's thoughts on the matter. Bravo Sir.

[@TheBetterManInBlack]

In Hollywood, bad is good. It's all about making evil inspirational.

[@toondeath5450]

Disney Star Wars....Amazon LOTR Which one is worse?

[@chasehedges6775]

Miguel and Tulio Road to El Dorado : “Both.”

[@Awakened_Mucacha]

Yes

[@JamesF-v4x]

Cue The Office meme “it’s the same picture”.

[@NoidoDev]

From a financial perspective it fairly easy to judge: 4bn for SW, without additional losses, vs estimated 1bn for ROP.

[@mbern4530]

Did Chris Gore just say that actors can't get by on just their movie roles? Are they having trouble buying food with their millions of dollars?

[@taudvore259]

He did get appropriately mocked for it.

[@carried9130]

It wasn't a compliment. Most actors live above their means.

[@AEB1066]

@@carried9130 Certain stars pay 2 grand for a shot of Ketamin, so that money doesn't last long.

[@ge2719]

Plus most actors aren't stars in movies. Most actors are bit parts and don't get paid like a leading actor. Plus his comment was clearly also a statement on how it's their own fault that they incapable of getting by on more money per film than most people earn in their lives.

[@chasehedges6775]

Daisy seems like a really nice/sweet and cool person. It’s a shame

[@MaryRohwer]

I agree with you. She seemed very gracious when talking about the fans. I hope she finds a niche where she can succeed.

[@kri249]

I don't blame her, or any other actors for their acting. It takes a good director to inspire the best performance from their actors. Unless you hear that an actor was difficult to work with and did the role their own way the responsibility should fall on the director. Because at the end of the shoot they're the ones who watch a wooden performance being filmed and say "good enough. That's a wrap." Hopefully Daisey does get a role that draws out the best in her.

[@TheNotoriousMrDee]

I'll still watch other things with the actors. Most of them are pretty good, stuck with shitty Disney scripts.

[@PBRatLord]

I mean... Last week she literally said it's just men who hated her and never gave Rey a chance. Seems really sweet and nice lmao. In the past, I would agree, now I would just offer some words I believe fits her situation, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt." And oh boy did she open her mouth 😂

[@TheNotoriousMrDee]

@@PBRatLord But we gave Jinn Urso a chance, she's fine lol

[@Spicyvanilla10]

Am I alone in loving Rogue One? Top 3 favourite Star Wars for me

[@jerrychubb6168]

My major issue with the Sequel Trilogy was the lack of direction. That could have been the saving grace if there was actually a playable arc. That said, there are very few wins in the Star Wars Universe since the Disney acquisition. The Mandolorian was a hot item and it lost steam.

[@gregoryblajian8951]

I am so sad that they say "Is Disney Bad At Star Wars?" because Walt is not there and the people running the company do not care at all about the brand. If it wasn't for Blackrock et al, the shareholders would have kicked out Iger forever ago.

[@YourRaincloud]

Ok imma stop you at 14:50 - The Bad Batch is amazing and not corny and awful. It actually feels like Star Wars. People just don’t give it a chance because it’s animated!!!

[@BHank762]

Yea I liked The Bad Batch. Omega could get annoying, but overall I liked the characters. They had better character arcs than most live action characters. Not counting like..Andor. Crosshair was pretty brutal there for a while, and I liked Tech. I really wanted him not to be dead in season 3 but the finale he goes out in was pretty crazy.

[@kennethellingsen5902]

Not just Star Wars... Willow, She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, Ant-Man Quantumania, upcoming Snow White...!

[@MaryRohwer]

It's too bad about Willow. That movie was a lot of fun. We still quote it regularly.

[@kennethellingsen5902]

@@MaryRohwer I loved the original Willow! I was sad to see he was turned into a lame sidekick in the series :(

[@MaryRohwer]

@@kennethellingsen5902 I wait for the reviews anymore, so I skipped it. I loved Madmartigan, though, and since Val Kilmer's was out due to bad health, that didn't help things either.

[@cinemamadness6920]

Not sure what the bigger mistake was; making Star Wars an IP for girls, or making it woke

[@itsaKindaMagik]

what is the difference? changing a boy brand to a girl brand is woke (i say this as a female)

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Both and I'm a woman saying this.

[@soaringeagle5418]

Star Wars was for everyone. After Disney got hold of it its only for the alphabet gang. They cut their potential audience by 97%.

[@Xplora213]

Same thing, guy. If you can’t imagine a cowboy or a NASCAR fan being enthusiastic about woke, you have your answer.

[@Veylon]

They didn't make it for girls. They made it "for girls".

[@mrlij6534]

Its cheaper for Disney to just pay Daisy Ridley for dragging her out and making her think she was going to make $12M than them make this movie. just quietly pay her and quietly dont do this movie and remove KK from these projects already.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Palpatine won in the end because he took over his granddaughter Rey's body after she struck him down and he committed identity theft of the Skywalker name when Kylo Ren, the last of the bloodline passed away.

[@TK-nn8jd]

Are we bad at Star Wars? Of course not, it's the fans who are wrong! -Disney

[@annjacobs7764]

This collab was perfect!

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

I really want to know who looked at the Taliban Lady (no I will not attempt to spell or pronounce that boogabooga name) and said that’s who would be perfect to save Star Wars

[@Puzzoozoo]

Probably KK.

[@jrob8891]

A friend and I were reminiscing recently about how you used to be able to rely on we fans to preorder tickets for opening weekend to all of these nerd products. I used to be excited and not want to see spoilers or even trailers for new MCU films... now? I wait a few weeks and see what is being said before deciding not to see the movie. These people managed to kill nerd boners for their favorite characters, who used to be happy to go watch early 00s garbage films on brand alone

[@TropicaIJay]

Disney has released like 20+ things since they bought starwars. Only like 3 things they made are good. So yes, they're bad, incredibly bad.

[@itsaKindaMagik]

more meh than "good", the bar is so-lo

[@Simon-xc5oy]

The only thing that you need to know about Disney and Star Wars is that Disney has STILL not made a profit from buying up Lucasfilm. That never gets mentioned and that is utter and total proof that they are bad at making Star Wars. Despite the billions spent buying it, and then the films that did make money, they have still managed to spend more than they have taken in, by going over budget and so bad at writing that the stories and films have taken less and less as they progressed. They will never make a profit from it now, especially after Acolyte and if they make a stupidly expensive Rey film. And I am betting that still gets made at some point as they will never want to deal with the fallout of not actually doing it....

[@Blisterdude123]

@@itsaKindaMagik I don't think that's entirely fair, but I get why people are so burned on this stuff. Andor was pretty great imo, a true diamond in the great expanse of rough. But we know KK thought that was going to be of no interest to anyone, so Tony Gilroy was left on his own to work on it for the most part. And Mando S1-2 were some solid Star Wars too...but that was around the time KK realised it was popular and decided she had to get involved and put an end to that nonsense.

[@itsaKindaMagik]

all is bad, some less bad than others

[@mfbias4048]

You dont have to say ‘like’ in any of your statements

[@JvinShadowfax]

It's funny how Grogu can generate more emotions than Rey does..

[@blazingmonolith4323]

Man... everything sucks now. It's so depressing that nothing is worth talking about in entertainment anymore. Tired of all of my favorite IPs being dismantled and turned into someone's political thesis.

[@lewisroach8723]

Anime is having a pretty positive time. It's a space with sequel series to look forward to and a general sense of things getting better over time. Not a fan of how easily get dismissed the animated parts of start wars, visions was pretty good IMO but I recognise the smaller audience.

[@leecameron9226]

​@@lewisroach8723anime is cringe people want good movies where actually great thrillers come out gritty serious movies with great scripts but Hollywood only knows how to make cringey action comedies made for no-one

[@kylekatarn5964]

It's not by accident

[@danabnormal5988]

As many have noted, Disney's recent focus is clearly on "cultural sensitivity" at the expense of simple entertainment.

[@mikepatton8691]

If someone ever writes a tell all book that documents all the behind the scenes drama and conflict at Lucasfilm I will be picking that up day one.

[@pixelretroo]

Bad, yes. Catastrophically awful, absolutely.

[@TerribleFire]

Daisy Ridley is a discount Keira Knightley

[@leecameron9226]

I thought that was Natalie Portman lol

[@User87_]

Ryan Reynolds is a billionaire from mint mobile

[@damienjstepick]

I think everyone missed what Chris was saying. He’s relating a fact that movie stars used to be able to depend solely on getting movie rules where now because of all the rules and regulations about hiring POC, transgender people, disabled people and whatever other groups they list, actors are no longer allowed to act.

[@masterfox17]

This could have been the shortest article ever “YES”

[@niclasverberne3358]

What if "Jake Skywalker" from Arch Too was a clone of Luke Skywalker? And Luke shows up in the Rey movie?

[@leadonsoftly]

There's bad... and then there's the entire other dimension of fanfic bad.

[@frefai]

I remember when Disney bought the Star Wars IP and I was so excited. Here's a big budget studio that'll put out content. I've never been so disappointed

[@duncanidaho4565]

David Fincher could be the visionary director who could save Star Wars if he chose to take on the challenge - Master of Dark, Complex Storytelling - Attention to Visuals and Atmosphere - Exploration of Political Intrigue - Themes of Obsession and Legacy

[@wavion2]

Journalist: "If I take one more step, it'll be the farthest away from home I've ever been."

[@AndreNitroX]

Imagine if they had just adapted Star Wars the expanded universe from the beginning, actual well told stories with star power to boot. But in hindsight that is a blessing now let them fail

[@MattEerie]

Daisy Ridley needs to make more small indie films like "Sometimes I Think About Dying" I think much like how Robert Pattinson did when he was best know for Twilight he was in tons of great small rolls and became a great actor organically imo

[@andyt2979]

Honestly, I can imagine Disney just bribing Sharmeen to shut up and not kick up a fuss about her film getting cancelled. "Here's 10 million dollars to keep your mouth shut!" It'll be a hell of a lot cheaper than spaffing money up the wall on a film few people will watch and fewer still will like 🤷

[@guardian962]

First season of Visions was pretty solid, but nothing amazing.

[@SrenHolm-k3o]

Imagine buying a franchise for billions of dollars with a massive built in fanbase, then call the fanbase a whole bunch of slurs and hire people who don't like the franchise to make movies for it. Kathleen has the management skill of a drunk squirrel.

[@itsaKindaMagik]

True. i have seen drunk squirrels lol

[@itsaKindaMagik]

Fan films > disney star wars

[@MaryRohwer]

That's true. My husband and I get excited every time we see Unreal Engine has come out with another Storm Trooper scene. For that matter, I've really enjoyed just seeing Alvision make fan art ships for both Star Wars and Star Trek.

[@thomasbecker9676]

"The Injured Stormtrooper" still holds up.

[@MaryRohwer]

@@thomasbecker9676 I hadn't seen that one, so I went and watched it just now. It reminds me of Monty Python's Not Dead Yet scene.

[@thomasbecker9676]

@@MaryRohwer That was filmed over Spring Break at college by a few of my friends.

[@MaryRohwer]

@@thomasbecker9676 I'm having trouble bringing up the replies. Did they film the Unreal Engine Stormtrooper scenes? Tell them to bring them on! My husband and I enjoy those a lot.

[@marccreation1052]

Somehow, Darth Vader returned...and only Rey can stop zir/zem. Sneak peak: Vader:"Rey Skywalker? Wtf did i miss?" Rey:"Silence, AI voice of James Earl Jones! By the power of Kathleen, i shall crush you!"

[@michaelgilroy1096]

Daisy Ridley has a terrible agent. She would be good in a 'girl next door' type role or the troubled wife of a US soldier type role, but she is no Sydney Sweeney.

[@chrisnoble5969]

Disney has turned Everything into Nickelodeon. Spidey and Friends.

[@freelancerthe2561]

"You're favorite my actor. I loved you in that 70s classic, about a young lad who fights impossible odds to fulfill his destiny. What was that called? Oh, yeah. Corvette summer. " - Mark Hamill talking to Mark Hamill, after being kidnapped by Mark Hamill and Mark Hamill

[@Eagl3xStrik3]

Imagine turning one of if not THE most profitable IP and reducing it to a laughing stock that is ACTIVELY AVOIDED. Too big to fail mentality at Disney killed it.

[@jimmyeatsmovies893]

4:08 THATS 15 PROJECTS 😂, LEGANDERY!

[@jordanyoung8184]

Only been talking about how bad disney star wars is for 9 years....

[@alexanderwatson1980]

A better question would be "Is Disney good at *anything* ?"

[@reaperbot5226]

Pretty much everything Disney bought under Iger’s watch has been ruined overtime.

[@CrunchyFroggo]

The feminist cabal that runs Lucasfilm didn't want the character of Rey to have sex appeal. That's why they cast a short-haired, flat-chested actress.

[@The_Killah29]

Bad Batch was OK but not necessary. Tales of the Jedi's Dooku story was alright. But in their defense, I pirated them so Disney wouldn't get money.

[@peterparler3246]

“Lacking in Sweetney” 😂

[@holymasterchief]

Funny how making movies and shows focused on spite, agendas, and participation trophies doesn't lend well to box office numbers.

[@rickj7330]

Yeahhhhh Obiwan kenobi show…. Can’t wait to see his adventures during his time on Tatooine … wtf was that???

[@tedferkin]

As a 50 year old who grew up on original Star Wars, and adored it for most of my life, I would like to point out that I've never heard of most of these projects and characters you talked about. Such is my disinterest in Disney Star Wars after TFA was released. I have hundreds of pounds a month of disposable income, due to my financial security, none of which is flowing into the Disney coffers.

[@kingmaegor5297]

Them giving Benioff and Weiss a movie to begin with was an atrocity

[@miqvPL]

E;R called out Disney being bad for star wars either late 2015 or early 2016 and got flame from SW fans for it. Like usual he was right

[@Not_So_Weird_in_Austin]

Sith Oreos anyone? Comes in double cream...

[@bradcsuka5054]

"...she's lacking in Sweeny's" 🤣🤣🤣

[@MichaelAarons1701]

Between Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaacs, and even Adam Driver, how many other roles (without reading off of IMDb) can you name beyond the Sequel Trilogy? For Daisy, all I got was _Murder on the Orient Express_ which wasn’t that large a role. Boyega had the _Pacific Rim_ sequel. Meanwhile, Oscar Isaac was doing _Ex Machina, Sucky Punch, X-Men: Apocalypse_ (won’t hold that against him), and even _Moonknight_ which was a series. Finally Adam Driver is currently in _Megaopolis,_ was in _65_ and had an Oscarworthy lead performance in _Marriage Story_ as well as was in _House of Gucci._ Kinda tells you how well the ST has done for these people, most of which I hadn’t heard of before then.

[@zacharyeicher390]

I genuinely believe Star Wars will be a respectable franchise again...I just hope that happens within my lifetime.

[@frankgesuele6298]

How long to you expect to live?😇

[@itsaKindaMagik]

only in fan films

[@tomlevier3615]

Bad Batch was one of the highlights of the new Disney Star Wars.