Drinker's Chasers - The Rings Of Boredom

The Rings of Power is a story of boring, pointless mediocrity, with a cast of unlikeable characters doing things we don't care about. What are we even supposed to gain from this show? Why does this bear the Lord of the Rings name? How many times has JRR Tolkien spun in his grave at the thought of this nonsense?
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[@TenFalconsMusic]

I know Galadriel survives, but at this point I kinda hope she doesn't.

[@kasabov5747]

I hope Sauron and the orcs win!

[@Pandaman94]

RIGHT?

[@rogerborg]

Elves can respawn, so they could murderkill her off. See my boy Glorfindel, who never gets any love.

[@hellodigitalworld8224]

This is filler tho

[@bradcarver8127]

Yeah this wasn’t in the manga.

[@TheRoflcer]

Amazon: Turns the Orcs White and the Hobbits Black. Also Amazon: Makes the Orcs efficient and cries over there dead, whilst the Hobbits leave their weak behind to die and confiscate all there belongings.

[@nont18411]

Like The Woman King, turning black slavers into liberating heroes

[@TheRoflcer]

@@nont18411 At least with that it was a scummy way of trying to make black people look good. Here we have Amazon jumping into the 'Mah Representation' bandwagon and making blacks look like they shouldn't be in charge of anything.

[@jeremywags]

They said they wanted to reflect the modern world. What does it say about the writers? I say they’re the real racists.

[@vade2803]

It's a theme in this Rings of Power series: The blurring of good and evil. Several characters have talked about needing to touch the darkness and generally most characters are totally confused about what's right and wrong. Pay attention and I'll guarantee that you'll see this theme in almost all episodes. It's quite vile and anti-Tolkien but also quite interesting, because it must say something about the writers and about the time we live in. The show is one big confused mess - not only about plot lines, logic and dialogue, but also about morality.

[@bkondrk]

Moral ambiguity seems to be a real epidemic in the "current year", and it's ruining a lot of things. I'm not going to root for the proto-Hobbits when they're portrayed as being so callous and cruel, regardless of what they might become later.

[@PaulA-pg7jm]

I 'm starting to see Saroun as a maligned and misunderstood reformer who's really trying to make Middle Earth a better place. The orcs show more compassion for there own kind than the harfoots. The dark elf shows more signs of empathy and likeability than Galadriel. Yeah I am beginning to root for Team Sauron.

[@WendyMcCor696]

Lol sounds like they are trying to make Sauron be orange man bad .........

[@paulraines9635]

@@WendyMcCor696 That's Ar Pharazon, and I would vote for him over Miriel, without hesitation.

[@harbl99]

If you play the explosion of Barad Dur at the end of _Return of the King_ in reverse, you can hear Sauron saying "I was trying to help!"

[@John_259]

I liked the bit where he first appeared singing "Please allow me to introduce myself / I'm a man of wealth and taste / I've been around for long, long years / Stole million man's soul and faith..."

[@Nobleheart111]

Team Sauron forever! And Death to the Elf Oligarchs!

[@Aikinai]

Liv Tyler on Arwen: "You don’t have to put a sword in her hands to make her strong." I was recently watching the Two Towers extras and stumbled on the “From Book to Script” segment where they talk about how they realized they didn’t need to make Arwen fight. Liv Tyler specifically says, “I went right back into the book and into the appendix and what we came to realize was that you don’t have to put a sword in her hands to make her strong. And where we’ve come to now is all these true elements of who Arwen is. I mean this is an incredibly powerful and fearless woman filled with so much hope and belief, and that is strong enough.”

[@adamcaldwell5646]

Arsenal was strong? You mean the woman who stayed in Rivendell for 3 movies and cried?

[@shadysorkin9214]

That point is certainly true but it's not really true with Arwen. They gave her the scene in the movies where she saves Frodo which was actually Elrond if I remember rightly when I read the book, since he controls one of the rings of power. Other than that, she is purely there as motivation for Aragorn. She doesn't really exemplify strength, more so love and goodness than anything else.

[@Aikinai]

@@shadysorkin9214, in the book, it was Glorfindel that saved Frodo, but introducing him would have been extremely confusing (doesn’t really make sense in the book either) so they swapped him out to give Arwen something to do. When they originally pitched the movie, she was going to be a warrior version of the character and fight in Helm’s Deep, but this interview was about how they changed their mind and went back to the original character mostly.

[@shadysorkin9214]

@@Aikinai Ah I see. I would have preferred to see her fight in some way personally.

[@Boatrocker]

@@shadysorkin9214 But maybe that's a problem with post modern definitions - love and goodness ARE strengths, *especially* when clung to while all of the opposites appear to multiply, grow, and thrive.

[@TheForsakenEagle]

I appreciate your sacrifice, guys. You watch it so I don't have to.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯👍

[@Magneticlaw]

Takin' one for the team!

[@SheldonAdama17]

After this, Drinker should go spend some “quality time” with Tatyana. He’s earned it!

[@danielacosta3610]

Lmao same

[@MenacingThreat]

Amen!

[@markusk2289]

They are actually actively going against Tolkien’s lore now. The Elves needing mithril in order not to fade? What the hell? The Elves have to dwell on Eä till the end - it’s their “thing”.

[@Hero_Of_Old]

Pure cringe fanfiction

[@kosaku_kq5601]

@@Hero_Of_Old That implies this show was written by fans

[@ErikDeMann]

@@kosaku_kq5601 It's not. It's not even entertainment, just an exercise in telling you what you're supposed to mean and think, same as all the other crap that comes out these days.

[@kosaku_kq5601]

@@ErikDeMann And I agree I couldn't say it any better. My comment was about this show not even being sufficient to be called fanfiction with the way it's been handled

[@newtpondskipper]

@@kosaku_kq5601 they aren't fans. They are Superfans!

[@KevDaly]

I wonder if there'll be a season devoted to Shelob's early years as a kind and compassionate giant spider and show her tragic descent into maddened violence as a result of her oppression by the Patriarchy.

[@creativeconsciousness7392]

The subplot really comes to life when she meets Gollum and they create a detective agency together.

[@michaelhanford8139]

Sounds like something they'd do. Run dont walk to register the copyrights to that idea.

[@RoninDave]

Nah, I want a sitcom of Shelob and the orcs who have to deal with her constant predation. "Hey, what happened to Ugluck?" Shelob - "I haveni't spied him recently!" "Hey, why is ugluck's desiccated corpse hanging in your web?" Shelob - "hey, he was there already before I got there! Don't spin stories!" "Oh, Shelob! You're too much!" - cue canned laughter

[@stanimir4197]

"Shadow of War" (game) did Shelob as a sexy lady who was betrayed by Sauron.

[@EvilDoresh]

"Check your bipedal privilege, shitlord"

[@SourRobo8364]

Reject modernity, embrace classics.

[@planetwatch0000]

It should be possible to embrace both. But the entertainment industry trying to erase, or "makeover" the past is warping this, so what we're left with is an empty and cynical mess devoid of truth or meaning.

[@williampoole1742]

Exactly. Everyone who hasn't should watch Charlton Heston's apocalypse trilogy, those three movies show how good movies can be.

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

True words!

[@aurex8937]

There's some awfully woke and retarded shit amongst classics, though. Ever read "The European" by Hermann Hesse? One of the most disgusting pieces of writing ever committed to paper.

[@jjdn43]

Mmmm, monke

[@Neon002121]

Love how about 5ish hours into the First Jackson Trilogy we had Ents on the March to Isengard, Frodo and Sam meeting Faramir and the battle of Helms Deep in full swing. Rings of Power? Some talking, some walking and 4 horrible action scenes.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

Don’t forget the horse riding, we had that. And doing nothing, can’t forget that either, lots of nothing.

[@qaztim11]

"But this is only 10% of the planned 50 hour story, they still have 45 hours to turn this around" "You cant compare a 12 hour story to a 50 hour story"

[@toms7114]

@@qaztim11 I remember doing a watch party every year for 3 or 4 years to watch the extended edition directors cut of Peter Jackson's Trilogy and it took all day with a 5 minute bathroom and grabbing snack break between each movie. It was a solid 16 hours of entertainment. I doubt that there will be even 2 hours of entertainment in the planned 50 hours of shit that is being made now.

[@LordofSadFac]

@@qaztim11 whats up with the quotation marks, did the bot forgot to ignore them in his code or what?

[@qaztim11]

@@LordofSadFac im being sarcastic

[@Frostshokula]

Love that scene where Sauron threatened Elrond with “I have an army” and Elrond said “We have a Galadriel” while his Mark VII mithril armor was being crafted.

[@Shiirya]

I mean she is allways angry and dumb, fit the hulk theme 😂

[@TheCosta5000]

MK VII? sto player methinks.

[@vandalcreed]

And then Galadriel picks up Sauron by the feet smashing him all over the floor like a rig doll and then accidentally smashes him against Isildur's sword cutting off his fingers and then he claims credit for the defeat because white supremacist patriarchal toxic masculinity.

[@snatchadams69]

You have a 117 likes as of the typing of this..

[@shadysorkin9214]

@@vandalcreed This is definitely how it will end.

[@AlphaHotel66]

I started crying when Galadriel says “Say hello to my little friend!” and starts killing Sauron’s henchmen with an M16 and M203 grenade launcher. Truly one of the scenes of all time.

[@saturn580]

In Breaking Bad, the "I am the one who knocks" scene was powerful because it revealed how malicious and corrupt Walt had become. In Guyladriel's tempest scene, the writers actually want us to admire her for being an emotionally unstable psychopath.

[@k-matsu]

She speaks telepathically to (and can read the minds of) elves, dwarves, men and hobbits. She's seven feet tall (or 6'5" depending on what conversion you believe) and she LITERALLY glows in the dark (her hair shines so brightly that it inspires Feanor to make the silmarils). When she raised up the power of Lothlorien, even Sauron and his forces were unable to enter the forest (presumably some sort of magical "barrier spell"). This is a character that needs to be "testosterstoned"? Im sorry, but warrior princess Xenophobriel is a wimpy little brat compared to the Galadriel I know and love.

[@Applebanger]

🤦

[@paulbachleda]

Going to take a second to appreciate Critical Doggo holding a solid "play dead" pose for about thirteen minutes.

[@samnieves8158]

06:35 when he goes paws up

[@chatteyj]

Lol I think drinker checked that he was alive at one point

[@jameswhittingham8027]

Drinker reviews using words. Dog does it through mime.

[@barnabusdoyle4930]

I don’t think Doggo is playing dead, I think he has a massive hangover. He’s still young and inexperienced, but Drinker is working on making him better

[@NowioART]

@@barnabusdoyle4930 train > weed > eat > repeat

[@PUBHEAD1]

The Jackson movie characters seemed to all have a sense of nobility, loyalty, integrity, or majesty. I've yet to see that in the new series.

[@Parasmunt]

Even Jackson villains had greatness about them, the guts of wormtongue to spit on Aragorn's hand. The bravery and skill of the chief of the uruk hai.

[@bighands69]

Jackson's LotR is not purely accurate to the books but it does capture the spirit of the books and is very entertaining as well.

[@matt-be8lc]

Characters now are just empty vessels for themes they want to push.

[@WreckingWood]

Elendil is one closest thing we got. He's literally an island in this.

[@sunsin1592]

The most ridiculous thing with Galadriel & Halbrand is that in the actual lore, she was one of the only ones who recognized Sauron straightaway and rejected him. Yet, despite her perfection in this show, she can't see through him? WTF?

[@chronusx877]

Traded all her wisdom and intelligence stats in for some strength, dex and weapons proficiency. Failed the roll on the perception check.

[@Thor-Orion]

@@chronusx877 they should have just got the rights for D&D. They could write their own original shitty story and no one would care.

[@notacompleteidiot...1285]

​​@@Thor-Orion That's the upcoming D&D movie with Chris Pine.

[@chalkdemon8019]

@@chronusx877 lol, perfect way to put it. She’s a D&D character who’s player was like I just wanna be strong, agile, and have some high weapons skills. The real Galadriel was all knowing, wise, graceful, and lovable.

[@Everything_Heavy]

Tolkien's corpse oscillates at 5.5 GHz

[@chasehedges6775]

And Peter Jackson is groaning in agony

[@lathrael7152]

It's Amazon's engame. They will jumpstart their entry to energy business by utilizing it.

[@viktorvondoom5950]

@@lathrael7152 aaaah.... Good one Bezos. Clean energy through horrible shows

[@harbl99]

"Our Thanatropic Insult Engine can produce us to 1,200 megawatts per travesty." -- Jeffy B.

[@ZPositive]

It sure was nice that the Numenorians had a 3D printer to fab up Galadriel's armor before she got on the boat.

[@hammerofscience534]

Sauron....ah I mean Halbrand whipped it up real fast after he got his guild badge in one day of trade school. 😂😂

[@puddingcatsteamboat6393]

i busted up laughing because it looked like she legitimately had trouble raising her arm for that hand shake at the end in her armor. 😂

[@gazlator]

Amazing how they got every detail right from her first set of armour, eh??

[@gregbrown3082]

Bro all the sailors' armor looked like fucking pajamas. My halloween costume is better than this prop dept

[@mikebrowning88]

Drinker casually making sure his doggo is still breathing is the highlight of this video lol

[@reek4062]

I'll pray for his dog to get liver cancer

[@ErnaB790]

Also better then every scene from rings of Amazon i've seen so far :-D

[@knusper279]

Critical Doggo ❤

[@Hmfirestormz]

@7:52 😂

[@paulhenshaw3103]

My favourite part is where Galadriel starts singing and dancing to the song Cuban Pete and all the police join in, dancing and singing along. Great scene

[@marinesinspace6253]

Queen of the rumba beat.

[@Frostshokula]

Galadriel: “Sssssmokin’!”

[@TEKKENFTW]

Dollar store slim shady: 'I'll teach you to chick chicky boom, chick chicky boom chick chicky boom'.

[@thomasvleminckx]

rare Mask reference is unexpected but welcome

[@saejinlee6304]

​@@thomasvleminckx I saw Ricky Ricardo do that 40 years before.

[@johncadden202]

5 years ago. I would have been so excited about a billion dollar LOTR series. Now I just don't care.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same here, man. If this was 2010, I’d be excited for a LOTR series. Now, I don’t care.

[@jackjohn4156]

Still don’t get how a billion dollar budget makes such a bad series with such a bad story

[@toms7114]

@@jackjohn4156 It's because all of the people making this require everywhere they are to be a "Safe Space".

[@philcollins2546]

Sir lenny will save the show!

[@BigBenn2014]

Well, it made me go out and buy an extended box set of LOTR instead…

[@hilanddoug]

It used to be that Hollywood didn't move forward on a project until a suitable script was found. Now days the story seems to be barely a second thought.

[@casualcausalityy]

I think that's why The Lego Movie and Wreck It Ralph stand out. Those films seem like they were only made after a good script was in place. Deciding to make a movie then ordering a script is clearly not working out

[@chasehedges6775]

@@casualcausalityy 💯💯💯

[@chasehedges6775]

Movies and TV used to be exactly that. Entertainment. Just something that you could enjoy after a long day or if you had nothing better to do. Now, they are products that are just made be consumed and make money.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@casualcausalityy Wreck It Ralph and The Lego Movie also have the benefit of just being entertaining and awesome movies. They also came out in 2012 and 2014, the last good years for movies. Before the dark times…

[@Shiirow]

who needs a story or a script when you have... _"The Message"_

[@danielpauley9113]

My favourite part is when Galadriel says she identifies as a male orc so starts transitioning which automatically makes her/him stunning and brave

[@ProfessionalRtard]

My favourite part was when Galadriel said "it's Galadin' time" and Galaded all over Sauron. Truly breathtaking

[@TrippyTheShroom]

That was definitely one of the moments in television history.

[@30bside23]

this is truly one of the shows ever

[@thepunisher3640]

It was definitely a part. No doubt about it.

[@OneRedKraken]

I was laughing too hard when I read this comment that I initially disliked it because I couldn't aim my cursor right.

[@cyberdarkturtle6971]

@@30bside23 it can LITERALLY be watched. Truely a show of its time

[@winstonsavage6338]

I am more entertained by whatever is going on with the drinkers dog than RoP.

[@davidschneider9145]

Dogs tend to sleep like that if they feel very safe. So it’s probably just having a good time

[@lbfourtwenty4163]

its just sleeping 🤔

[@darthlaurel]

If you think about the fact that Winston Churchill said that even as an infant, Queen Elizabeth had a commanding personality, pretending that Isildour is a goofy teen is ridiculous.

[@satzbau9185]

Show writers born after 1990 don't know how to do research or work, all they know is project, externalize, whine, write badly, shoehorn LGBT prog nonsense and get bad haircut

[@scrimshaw7470]

Simp Churchill confirmed

[@darthlaurel]

@@satzbau9185 Well, also spend half their free time trying to figure out what is in their underwear.

[@darthlaurel]

@@scrimshaw7470 Fair enough....but I don't think he was wrong.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Chircill is Isildur and Elizabeth is Galadriel in the show.

[@maxmagnus3793]

For me the worst thing about this show is how it tells 5 equally terrible side stories instead of a main story. I could stomach one bad story, but when it's 5 of them intercut they keep interrupting each other and it takes a whole episode for 1 thing to happen. For the life of me I can't watch any more of this after I suffered through the first episode

[@daveeyes]

It took me several hours today to summon up the will to watch Ep. 5. Afterwards I had to take a nap. I don't care about any of these people.

[@Bhavyo]

@@daveeyes For me its over, i thought i will watch yesterday, but realized, i have no motivation. Rings of power is over for me. When spending life watching TV, then it should be worth the time.

[@NovRen19]

Heresy eventually perishes after it's lies are made naked and clear upon the sight of those it hopes to blind! We must stop watching this even for negative publicity because it feeds the amazon rating system. Take heart and join us for our EXSURGE TOLKIEN counter rings of power heresy series on our channel. It will be a happy thought in these dark times.

[@allenwilhelm7799]

Yeah. Like in ASoIaF, Dani's chapters were, for the most part, slow and boring but it was just one out of many

[@alexandermuller7142]

It was basically the same for the first episodes of Game of thrones, the difference is they were good/awesome and had nude scenes with nice looking people. Not "much" happened in a single episode of GoT to any single character (well, sometimes they just died, which was/is really different to other shows), like 5 to 10mins for one storyline. But it kept me glued to the screen and wanting more next week.

[@Madashell-jh5xn]

Now people have seen what she's seen and we can't be bothered.

[@BigBenn2014]

We saw what she saw and we dozed off.

[@jeremybrocknblue5593]

You havent seen what she has seen. You never saw it, she saw it. What you seen wasnt what she seen. She saw it and you didnt.

[@rollinrat4850]

Unfortunately I can't unsee it either. 3 hours of my life wasted. No more. I'd rather watch You Tubers make fun of this snoozefest.

[@ducko1988]

The dwarves are mining the infinity stones and the elves are fashioning a gauntlet to harness their power. I can’t wait for StrongWoman to wield it.

[@luckypaddy]

Did anyone notice the Numenorean helmets didn't fit?

[@Neon002121]

You’re right about that but I had to rewatch since the actual breastplate and pauldrons distracted me with how bad they look on 1st viewing.

[@TheForsakenEagle]

Give them a break. Amazon only spent a billion bucks on the show.

[@marcoz5857]

and what about arondirs armour with that face on it? looks so cheap, ffs xD

[@jennyjustjenny7634]

Actually my boyfriend is a huge nerd when it comes to weapons and amor. He noticed and he is furious about the weapons and armors since he's seen the elven swords in episode 1. 😂 It's funny to watch him lose is mind.

[@jennyjustjenny7634]

@@marcoz5857 Almost like he butchered a Weirwood tree from Westeros.

[@Stukkeman]

Drinker’s dog has more character and character development than Galadriel…

[@derezatron]

Isildur was meant to be the best of us. The most resilient, the most fair, the most incorruptable. Thats what makes his fall so impactful. Sauron can corrupt absolute. If Isildur can fall, then who can stand? But this show is making it look like hes easily corruptable and incompetent. The man we are following is just making me go, "yeah, i can see how he falls". And that is a crime. We should be watching him and going, "noooooo. I know where you end up and i dont want you to! Isilduuuuuuur!" Its the classic breaking down the heroes when we never asked them to.

[@minidsg1]

I have a theory that Sauron split himself into multiple people Adar,Halbrand...Slim shady. And the sword is the key to becoming whole again. Also explains why they couldn't find him.

[@silverscorpio24]

Like the Horcruxes.

[@captbuckyohare5585]

Stop coming up with better things on a friday night on the internet off the top of your head than the billion dollar show came up with.

[@-ManLikeWills]

Slim shady …. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@godrickbest4798]

right the voltomort we will call it

[@gianna526]

That could actually be interesting. That's a good idea.

[@clubkid13]

Stunning revelation…. Galadriel is actually the villain and Sauron is the actual hero.

[@deceiver444]

One can hope Sauron won't be as atrociously written and acted as most of the main characters in this show, because at this point I'm rooting badly for him.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Indeed, Team Sauron all the way!

[@GilesMcRiker]

"There is a Tampax in me!"

[@samblack5313]

Fucken hell… 😂😂😂

[@Soyuz2578]

My favourite part is when Galadriel says "It's Elfing time" and destroys the whole Orc army single handedly

[@richtea615]

Look what Rings of Power did to the Critical Doggo!

[@Frostshokula]

My favorite scene was when Galadriel was given Nenya and she broke down into a rendition of “Single Elves” Galadriel: “Oh oh oh..” ✋ 🤚 ✋ 🤚 💍

[@samblack5313]

The hand switches… 😂😂😂

[@fortcastellan1730]

Hearing about Guy-ladriel is making me really appreciate Tauriel from the Hobbit movies. Yes, she was a fanfic character, who embodied every trope a self-insert....But she was a good fanfic character! Her motivations and characterizations made sense, she mostly fit into the world, and she was usually a periferal character who joined others to participate in the real story. Just imagine if Rings of Prime had been about a Tauriel-type character. She could wander around, be a bad-ass, and then meet up with real characters, and help them during the real events, and we would use her perspective to connect the big events, or to give them context. I'm sure there are hundreds of fanfic writers who could have pulled that off...

[@talithakoum3922]

The other thing Tauriel had going for her was that she was likeable. She was confident without being stuck-up. She smiled, had a sense of humor, and never showed gratuitous cruelty. Guyladriel isn't just out of place and overpowered, she has no likeable or entertaining qualities and is no fun to watch.

[@Sorain1]

That's the difference between the SI of a fan, and the works of Anti-fans. The former works out of love and while we don't agree on methods, they are trying to do right by the thing we both as fans care about. The latter? You've seen it.

[@adamcaldwell5646]

@@talithakoum3922 how is Galashiels overpowered?

[@elg9422]

Every main character has the psychology of an angry teenager.

[@Mark-ig4em]

My favourite part was when Galadriel said “it’s Morbin’ time!” It sent chills down my spine. Amazing!

[@ilovecapitalism1776]

Or when she started breakdancing and said " cowabanga!"

[@rolandfeussner1892]

Almost as much as when darth maul says „it’s mauling time“ and kills Qui-gonn. So emotional❤❤❤

[@chasehedges6775]

@@rolandfeussner1892 Or when Oscar Isaac said, “Somehow Palpatine returned.”

[@vinnynj78]

You mean this is really just a backdoor pilot for the Mighty Rings of Power Rangers?

[@chasehedges6775]

@@akira_kei_ Same, man. It’s hard to tell what is real or not what is not.

[@rufusmcgee4383]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the scene where, despite having her plane all shot up, Galadriel plants her only bomb right in the middle of the flight deck of Sauron's last carrier. Epic stuff.

[@Dionysus_333]

Yeah that was nuts, I can’t believe they got James Woods to play Sauron’s droid 😂

[@ColoradoStreaming]

"What are you doing???" "Giving Mordor back its ring..."

[@user-md6tq3oo1h]

“Evil cannot create anything new, it can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” - J.R.R Tolkien

[@stu356]

This isn't actually a genuine Tolkien quote, FWIW. It started somewhere on the internet and has become "real", but it wasn't something he ever said or wrote.

[@stanleyquine5020]

Yeah it's fake but using shows you're a fake fan and don't know the books kina a self own lol

[@TheGouliat]

I just thought of something, that the writing is very Telling us something about the mind of the Writers and Showrunners. They Stated that they wanted to create a version of the Lore which reflects our current world. Now, they give the "Hero" of the Story character Traits that would make her a, still shallow, believable villain. They give the Haarfoots, the "good guys, Traits that are Evil. They give the Evil Orcs Character Traits that Humanize them. This is what they think of the world. They are those kinds of People. It tells you what kind of behavior they associate with good or bad.

[@adamcaldwell5646]

What a nonsense comment.

[@ItsaKindOfMagic86]

@@adamcaldwell5646 no, it is a very insightful comment. If you are going to call it nonsense, then where is your reasons for why. Instead you call it nonsense and just run away because you cant back up your opinion lol

[@ItsaKindOfMagic86]

TheGouliat your comment sums up what they are doing: deconstruction and inversion of good and evil. It lines up with their ideology world view. Ignore the troll .

[@adamcaldwell5646]

@@ItsaKindOfMagic86 it's basically saying that because op doesn't think the writing is good, then the writers are morally wrong. Like wtf

[@eliotduke1753]

I like the part where galadriel levitates the x wing out of the swamp and tells Yoda he hasn't seen what she has seen. My jaw hit the floor.

[@Applebanger]

Ok old meme

[@CabezasDePescado]

So glad to see The Little Platoon with the gang and his channel blowing up, he deserves it

[@premier1975]

Yep, very much so.

[@user-fo1ni8wz7f]

Yes!

[@j.vonhogen9650]

This is the first time I've heard about him, and I really like his contribution to the discussion. I will definitely check out his KZbin channel.

[@dfny914]

Big time

[@JackAcid]

Absolutely. He's superb.

[@tuorofgondolin8235]

One largely unknown feat that Isildur accomplished: he, alone, saved a sapling of the White Tree which otherwise would've been destroyed.

[@UndyingSpartan]

The Little Platoon is a fantastic inclusion! He has such a way with words. 👏🏻

[@chasehedges6775]

Rings of Power is a show so bad that Peter Jackson is groaning in pain and JRR Tolkien is rolling in his grave.

[@scorpixel1866]

Tolkien rotated so fast he went back in time, "currently" riding a T-Rex and having a chat with the Queen in her younger years in reptilian Atlantis.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@scorpixel1866 😂

[@Shiirow]

Tolkien is rolling in his grave so hard and fast that if you tapped into the energy being generated you could power the planet earth for ten years.

[@Kromiball]

@@Shiirow No, the kinetic energy from generated by Tolkien rolling should be way... way more than that! I'd say about like 3000 years.

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

And even the D&D Game of Thrones writers are like, we could have done it better 😂

[@marcntexas]

I’m becoming convinced that this death of art era is intentional for sociological engineering reasons

[@samblack5313]

“One of the wonders of the world is going down”

[@TGuard00014]

In all reality though they can’t kill art without our consent and participation. Realistically even if every movie ever produced for the rest of time is garbage there is enough quality already in existence for people to stay entertained for a life time. The same is true for pretty much every art medium in existence. Most music today is garbage but there’s nothing that forces you to listen to today’s music. Historical works of art have never been more accessible to the common man, they can only destroy the art if we allow and participate in it. Instead of watching 8 hours of this garbage spend 9 hours watching the extended LOTR or spend however many hours reading all the books, encourage others to do the same. Either these companies listen to market forces or eventually they run out of money. There have been plenty of dark ages in human history when a small segment of the population through much sacrifice and effort kept art and culture alive, maybe now is our time. Architecture is maybe the one exception to this since enjoying pictures of beautiful buildings cannot compare to the experience of being in one and most people will never have the opportunity to make design decisions in a building. I hate modern architecture and there doesn’t seem to be much one can do about it.

[@ItsaKindOfMagic86]

Cylon 2000 you are spot on in your suspicison, they have to destroy culture in order to roll in their new ideological culture to replace it

[@stevene6482]

I was shocked when I found out that Sauron was just her split personality and she’d been tracking and fighting herself the whole time.

[@definitelynotat-rex72]

Is that really what happened

[@kshuneycutt9]

I honestly would not be surprised if they did this.

[@stevene6482]

@@definitelynotat-rex72 oh yes. She blew up her own home, nicknamed Durin “B!tchtits”, founded an underground sword fighting club, then blew up all of the dwarf treasure hoards.

[@alexdavila1356]

@@stevene6482 , this would be a way better story

[@NotSoRandom_]

I just can’t comprehend how they can make it so bad considering the resources at their disposal- the trilogy as a base, the fucking insane amount of details from the books, the show having the biggest budget ever. It’s insane

[@EvilDoresh]

They hired incompetent fools and gave them at least two orders of magnitude more money than they knew what to actually do with.

[@bradcarver8127]

My favorite part was when Galadriel, Elrond, and the black elf were driving in the car and Galadriel says “As far back as I remembered, I always wanted to be an elf” then Sauron starts banging on the trunk

[@paladin3894]

Best comment ever

[@thepunisher3640]

Funny how, how am I funny? Like I'm a clown? I make you laugh? I'm here to fucking amuse you? Funny how, how am I funny wtf is so funny about me tell me!

[@jenaquinthejester4156]

"Anyway, that's all I've got for today. Go away now." "I'll show you, Critical Drinker! No one tells me what to do!" *rewatches video*

[@joelsephify]

This. I like this.

[@lucasbinswanger2997]

Did anyone else catch that the entire reason the Elves are building the tower with the dwarves is because they wanna BLAST all the elves with light?? like what??

[@samblack5313]

…so anyways, I started BLASTIN’

[@jasonmckenzie2835]

Has anyone considered that this show was actually written by AI technology?

[@BigBenn2014]

I think you’re on to something there.

[@chippyonline001]

Reminds me of that AI written Batman script.

[@anthonyberg1945]

Nah the AI script that ACG had for his Last Of Us Remastered was genius compared to ROP

[@jasonmckenzie2835]

@@anthonyberg1945 I may be reaching with the AI but it's truly hard to believe that 20 executive producers, writing staff, show runners etc. would approve this biblical level of awful writing.

[@MarkHogan994]

I don't think it's that good.

[@rahn45]

Episode 5 managed to cram a High School Fight scene into it. That's certainly 1 billion dollars worth of writing talent there! Some people might consider it them ripping off the Morpheus and Neo fight, but I'm not going to give them that much credit.

[@AlejandroRamirez-rx1py]

I was so taken back when Guyladriel explain to the audience "there's a tampon in me!" I was so moved.

[@danielpauley9113]

My favourite part is when Galadriel comes out in the power loader because she has a class 2 rating. She screams “Get away from him you b#tch” to the alien queen as it’s chasing Frodo for the ring. Truly inspirational

[@Tfaonc]

Regarding the orcs vs harefoots: Hollywood today believes that leaving someone wounded and maimed to die slowly alone is mercy.

[@luckypaddy]

Borings of Power 😆

[@chasehedges6775]

The Rings of Boredom and the Rise of The Fanfiction.

[@greggeiger7532]

Nice

[@brianmurray6287]

Rings of girl power...not my quote but I thought it was witty 😅

[@RoninDave]

The Rings of Padding

[@SundraTanakoh]

Thanks to RoP suddenly The Hobbit Trilogy becomes another Jackson Masterpiece.

[@MrGreenAKAguci00]

I'm just a fan of Drinker's dog being a goofball and chilling on his back, honestly made my morning today.

[@mariusmitre492]

I can't imagine that Isildur killing Sauron. Not just because he looks like a dorky teenager but also because the series clearly wants Galadriel to have all the spotlight.

[@captbuckyohare5585]

Galadriel: Antagonises everyone. Inspires her own company to mutiny. Gets thrown in prison. Has no friends. Gets exiled by her own people. Audience despises her because of how abrasive and unself-aware she is as a piss and vinegar, aggressive arsehole character she is. Also Galadriel while training the LITERAL MOST ELITE ARMY IN ARDA: "Strength is not as important as position. Work with your feet, not your arms. Cunning and whiles are infinite when compared to brute strength and bloodlust." Audience: "What the fuck are you saying..."

[@dradamov]

Ladies and gentlemen, behold Galadriel, future bearer of Nenya, wise and ancient Queen of Lothlorien. Also... "Work with your feet, not your arms" - I didn't watch the show, but it's a musical, right? That's why she's saying it, right?

[@alexdavila1356]

she's talking in her brother's boat-speak!

[@alexdavila1356]

@@dradamov .... Footloose.... maybe?

[@saportaGG]

My favorite part is where people keep saying they hate it so much, and each successive episode is the last they will ever watch again.

[@danielpauley9113]

My favourite part is when each episode ends and the pain stops

[@klegdixal3529]

in GoT there's this, superbly delivered by Charles Dance, a memorable line - if you have to say "I'm the king" then you're no king. well... if you have to repeat "I'm a strong, independent woman"...

[@thefilthyrhombus3856]

They lifted that "There's a tempest in me" line straight from Elizabeth:The Golden Age. The only difference is they changed hurricane to tempest. Also was anyone else distracted by Drinker's dog?

[@kirkjones9639]

Sauron is now someone I can identify with. Between the Harfoots, Elves and the rest of the "good guys", actions, he really comes out in a much better light. From now on I'm rooting for his boys.

[@archstanton9073]

Seeing Disparu not waving is arms...as much as his normal videos is quite something.

[@rro660]

They probably asked him to tone down the manic energy lol

[@Dionysus_333]

@@rro660 lolll

[@doug1066]

The entire scene when Galadriel traded the plans of the Death Star for Beskar and then stole Darth Maul's lightsabre was fantastic!

[@waylander9265]

I do think the writers had always planned to give Galadriel a character arc. They come across as people who know what they want to do, but lack the skill to do it. Her followers do mutiny because of her actions after all. The problem is the writers are so inept that they gave her no redeeming qualities, meaning nobody wants to see her improve, and the writers don’t make her face her own flaws or the consequences caused by them in a meaningful manner, resulting in any future growth feeling unnatural and unearned

[@adamcaldwell5646]

No redeeming qualities? She's an excellent fighter, determined (while also being stubborn).

[@sheadoherty7434]

@@adamcaldwell5646 she left determined and is full throttle stubborn. She's also a perfect fighter who doesn't need to struggle in combat and for that any fight she is in is unworthy of the audiences investment.

[@adamcaldwell5646]

@@sheadoherty7434 Still, I want to see where her arc goes. I'm invested.

[@Anarckitty83]

I love seeing Drinker's Greyhound roaching in the background. 😂

[@vandanacasm]

The best thing to come out of rings of power is the friendship of these absolute madlads. Just look at them sacrifice their brain cells every episode, and discuss the massacre of their inner self for our entertainment. 🙏

[@logicerrormusic]

The scene where Galadriel said in a deep metallic voice There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign. Was truly amazing

[@johns1625]

I liked it when she comes to jail to beat up Howbland and the Numenorian guards are so attracted to her they leap into the jail cell to avoid feeling her up and she says to king Blob "I'm not a man!" while he runs away crying

[@thepunisher3640]

That scene where Galadriel starts slaying vampires in the underground club, while blood sprays from the fire sprinkler system and heavy techno music starts playing....that was a scene, I rate it out of 10.

[@ZPositive]

Does $1 billion not buy the ability to do kindergarten math? Five ships, minus one that exploded, equals three ships?

[@kimrasmussen7188]

25% taxes...everybody gotta pay those

[@laurenanderson61]

Now that I know the Drinker has greyhounds, I find myself checking for them. The one behind him today looks like it was arranged in that position. That's some impressive relaxation.

[@tarron3237]

'None of the characters is particularly likeable' - that tells us a lot about the makers of the show

[@bakedsith5046]

The only plus of RoP, is The Hobbit Trilogy is now so much better in comparison, and The Shadows games (Shadows of Mordor, Shadows of War) are damn near Shakespearean in comparison.

[@chasehedges6775]

And The Peter Jackson LOTR still reigns supreme.

[@mrcoules]

I really appreciate these guys don’t talk over each other, but actually listen and interact thoughtfully. Gives us the listeners, so much more when we tune in. Good on ya, boys!

[@chasehedges6775]

Same. It’s interesting interaction

[@40KWill]

Something that lives for thousands of years should not have a character arc in a short time span. It's like a person having a major character change in less than a day.

[@TGuard00014]

To be fair days that completely change your life and who you are do happen, heck such things often happen in seconds or minutes and not even over days, but capturing such a moment takes extremely talented writers which these shows clearly lack.

[@tres4dayz]

7:45 This was so well said. Having a strong motivation or goal = / = Great character. Those two have to thrive separately to keep us involved. I never thought of that to this degree. Thank you

[@gamera5160]

Galadriel literally lived through the apocalypse. She watched her people die. She watched all of the elf kingdoms fall. She saw the host of Valinor descend on Angband. She saw mountains shatter and much of Beleriand sink beneath the waves. But they took that character who has seen such things and they just make her an immature child. It's a shame.

[@YounglingSlayer9000]

Damn, Rings of Power is so bad it killed The Queen and the Critical Doggos 😭

[@HappyPuppy82]

How to fix the show and start loving the "hobbits" in 1 move: "Hobbits" jointly stab Galadriel to death =) Id stay for that, screw the lore, its F up already, let's make it fun Tarantino style

[@sgtbigballs666]

"We should have fuckin shotguns for this" -Jules Winfield, the best hobbit in history

[@jackjohn4156]

Dude i would actually want Sauron to win and kill everyone lol

[@flunk_waffle8073]

Loved the "I could have killed 'em all, I could've killed you. In town you're the law, out here it's me. Don't push it! Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it go. Let it go! " scene. Powerful stuff

[@BelaSkriva]

Oh my goodness! I love this discussion. I literally complained to my husband about all these points. I actually mind how they did Isildur. He ends up keeping the ring, which is tragic. If they made Isildur capable and ambitious, that could be the flaws that bring him to keep the ring, but also could be virtues that make him a great warrior and leader, one who will focus and sacrifice immediate gratification for long term ends. Hollywood seems to forget that young men can be like that when they are teenagers.

[@arttkd1018]

"Long periods of nothingness punctuated by brief flashes of utter nonsense". I love this.

[@viszordo324]

Isildur is a pathetic shadow of what he was in the Lord of the Rings book and it's terrible that they-... ... ...is Drinker's dog dead or just dead drunk?

[@TheGourdKing]

This show raises one, and only one, huge question: Why did Illuvatar stop with the destruction of Numenor?

[@harbl99]

Karma Houdini Galadriel. [sinks Beleriand] Missed her. Try again. [sinks Numenor] Oh, come on!

[@PhantomMonkey2008]

All I can see is the cute little pupper that is napping hard.

[@Chicken_of_Bristol]

I think the Drinker's dog in the background laying on the ground with his feet in the air is a perfect metaphor for this series.

[@MrSTVR]

It's wishful thinking to expect them to spend 5 seasons developing these characters to resemble their LOTR selves. It's all too likely they'll be out of character for the entire series and then it'll end with a distant finale where they suddenly are wearing the right clothes but dont have to say anything because they don't want or know how to make these characters seem like who they should be.

[@WhitefoxSpace]

Wishful thinking is hoping there is no season 2. This thing needs to go die.

[@EvilDoresh]

Probably some post-credits scene where they're suddenly all wearing what they wore in LotR, staring determined into the distance at the movie trilogy to come.

[@christophertaylor9100]

I want to believe that's what they have in mind, building Isildur into the man he becomes, starting as kind of a gawky adolescent right now. I want to believe that but I don't.

[@Vhalior666]

I never expected it to be this bad. With a Billion Dollars, I dare say, I could have done a better job with a handful of my friends to help write and plan it. I know they only had access to 150 pages of appendices, but, I am surprised they have taken so many dreadful liberties with this abomination.

[@jbbrolic]

This show would be vastly improved by trading off billion dollar production values (instead using cheap settings and fx) for good writing and acting. The billion dollars isn't really relevant, it's the complete mismanagement of writing and casting.

[@reaperezekial5168]

Imagine if Amazon had spent a billion dollars investing in people who actually cared about The Wheel of Time. How popular could that have been? And they wouldn’t be limited to just the glossaries at the ends of the books. They could have had a home run of an epic series, but no. Feminism first, profits worse. And now they’ve pissed off the Tolkien crowd, which is a huge fan base. I disliked The Wheel of Time Amazon series so much that I finally broke down and decided to read the actual books. Now I’m midway through book four thinking, “It’s a crime that they didn’t adapt this better. They could have made a fortune if they’d done it right.”

[@wabisabi3619]

These shows are written, made and acted by boring people who are populated with blindly following ‘the message’. They are the kind of people who go with the crowd and do nothing interesting, they have no character and so have no ability create characters or stories. They know how to congratulate themselves and tell you what to think and that’s it.

[@chasehedges6775]

It’s just a show that’s merely content and nothing more.

[@samblack5313]

The writers room is full of activists pretending to be artists. The thing is, you can’t ‘learn’ creativity. You can nurture it, but you can’t manufacture it. You either have it, or you don’t. Pretending a writing degree makes you an artists is laughable. Hendrix couldn’t tell you where an A is on the fretboard.

[@adamcaldwell5646]

What is "the message"?

[@wabisabi3619]

You need to watch more critical drinker reviews 😉

[@wabisabi3619]

Totally agree, my point is also that the people behind these shows and most of Hollywood/entertainment industry live sheltered lives. While many of the great writers and creatives of the past lived rather interesting lives. They had stories to tell based on experience out in the real world. Not from a university lecture hall or schmooze parties in Hollywood mansions. The current crop seem to only exist within their own ideological bubbles.

[@Rommulo35628]

She-hulk and Rings of Power in the same year... 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ouch! Hollywood really should use 2022 as reference : "Here's what we WON'T DO anymore"

[@FoodLaneAdventures]

We all love flawed characters, but they have to at least be likable. Someone like Tony Stark is deeply flawed. He's arrogant and abrasive, but man, he's a hilarious genius. If Galadriel is actually flawed in the minds of the writers (jury's still out), that's great. But they haven't given us any reason to like her.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯. Your characters should be both flawed, have weaknesses and vulnerabilities as well as be likable.

[@OutcastWriter31]

Hey hey! Fun seeing you here!

[@FoodLaneAdventures]

@@OutcastWriter31 Yooooh! Good to see you too, dude!

[@acct5910]

Nooo you don’t get it!! Her flaw is that she is so headstrong and determined!!!

[@FoodLaneAdventures]

@@acct5910 Which also happens to be her greatest strength! Perfect!