Drivers need to

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Motorcycle Law Scotland

Motorcycle Law Scotland

Күн бұрын

This driver clearly did not look to the left when exiting this junction. They probably only looked right for oncoming traffic.
Fortunately, this biker is an advanced motorcycle rider who has been taught to scan the road well in front of him. He was able to spot the car beginning to exit the junction and anticipate that it may not have seen him. He was therefore able to ease off the throttle, reduce his speed, adjust his road positioning and bring his motorcycle to a controlled halt, thereby avoiding a collision.

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@Jay-Kay-Em
@Jay-Kay-Em 7 ай бұрын
Riders also need to accommodate - and anticipate - the incompetence of others…. To stay alive.
@petachad420
@petachad420 7 ай бұрын
Riders need to #takeanotherlook at speed limits
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 7 ай бұрын
A number of them do , but there are many excellent and very safe bikers as well .
@TheKrimzonGuard
@TheKrimzonGuard 7 ай бұрын
Doesn't look like speeding at all, the car could fully see the bike when they made this dumb AF decision. Drivers need to do better
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 7 ай бұрын
@@TheKrimzonGuard How do you know that ? The video does not show the car until the rider is on top of it , and from the angle , the bike was probably hidden behind the nearside B pillar - something the biker should have been just as aware of as the blind spots on a large lorry .
@r1273m
@r1273m 7 ай бұрын
I've played that video multiple times including at 0.25 speed. I think the biker seemed to be going too fast, whether or not he was actually speeding is of no significance if you're dead or injured. I gave up my motorbike 3 years ago, having ridden since I was 16 in 1963. So what do I know?
@TheBeanyi
@TheBeanyi 7 ай бұрын
Time and time again, the same thing 😞
@gjbspark
@gjbspark 7 ай бұрын
most "drivers" only look 20ft in any direction, if they look at all.
@Lomochrome
@Lomochrome 7 ай бұрын
Don't forget you're not king of the road. The road was built for the public. That's means you'll encounter people and you shouldn't assume you are more important.
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 7 ай бұрын
Bikers can , however , take it for granted that they are more vulnerable , and will almost certainly come off worst in a RTC . I have had to deal with some quite unpleasant things in attending incidents over the years , including picking up what appeared to be a helmet and finding a decapitated head still inside it !
@dannycolverson6944
@dannycolverson6944 7 ай бұрын
This happens all the time, 50% caused by the bike speeding. The other 50% you'd think the bike would ease off the gas and prepare to stop...sometimes they do. Remember if you're speeding it's your fault the car didn't see you. Simple but many riders oblivious to this
@CycleLawScotlandCoUk
@CycleLawScotlandCoUk 7 ай бұрын
Interested to know where your 50% stat comes from?
@TheKrimzonGuard
@TheKrimzonGuard 7 ай бұрын
Doesn't look like the rider was speeding at all, the car made this bone headed maneuver in full sight of the bike which means the converse would also be true
@dannycolverson6944
@dannycolverson6944 7 ай бұрын
@@TheKrimzonGuard Rider probably wasn't speeding - it's a 60 zone. In any situation where the speed limit is 50 or 60, all junctions and side roads should be treated with caution - they're all an opportunity for a bad accident due to someone in a car not seeing you
@nuttycommuter3718
@nuttycommuter3718 7 ай бұрын
“If you’re speeding it’s your fault” except in 99% of cases where it’s not. Even where someone’s speed is “grossly excessive”, it’s still not 100% their fault.
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 7 ай бұрын
@@TheKrimzonGuard the camera only shows the car when the rider is virtually on top of him ; if the rider did see the car earlier then he ought to have exercised caution or slowed down until he had positive confirmation that he had been seen ( eye contact ) ; with the angle of the car , it is quite probable that the bike was hidden behind the B pillar ; bikers should be aware of blind spots and react accordingly - it is their own lives which are at risk .
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 7 ай бұрын
Despite replaying that video several times , neither the car nor the junction can be seen until the car is halfway out across the road and the bike is bearing down on it at high speed . Rain on the camera lens does not help , but the junction is hidden and drivers are not , nor should they be expected to be , looking for people arriving at inappropriate speed . All the same , I'd expect the rider to be able to see more than the camera did and not to leave braking to the last moment , at which point it has to be applied hard - not good in wet weather conditions . I am an advanced driver , former instructor and former motorcyclist , also still a current emergency response driver . When I do see drivers sitting at junctions , and these include motorcyclists , I am always looking for eye contact , and if not forthcoming , I am already slowing until I know for sure they have seen me ; this has saved me on multiple occasions from situations like the one depicted in this video . The built up area and speed limit signs were visible long before the emerging vehicle was ; I'd have already been slowing down to enter the speed limit without needing to brake . There was fault on both sides in this incident .
@mickyj0101
@mickyj0101 7 ай бұрын
I think the car was visible from much earlier than it appears on the video - there appears to be a blur effect over where the car is up to the point you mentioned, when the car is halfway across the road. Possibly the blur used for the registration plate? I don't know why it would be present so early in the video though
@derekheeps1244
@derekheeps1244 7 ай бұрын
@@mickyj0101 maybe it is a blur effect , I thought it was water . It does defeat the point of the video since it hides the sight of the junction . I haven't driven a bike in many years , but even in a car , or larger vehicles , I would have been easing off if i saw him waiting there .
@nuttycommuter3718
@nuttycommuter3718 7 ай бұрын
There was no fault on the motorcyclist. It’s a national speed limit road and the biker was going at a speed from which they could stop in the distance they could see to be clear. There’s no evidence that the biker was speeding, but even if they were, that doesn’t excuse the car driver pulling out. The car driver didn’t look properly or they would have seen the biker. We can see the junction for at least 4 seconds. I say this with over 5 years of experience of deciding liability in motor claims.
@dannycolverson6944
@dannycolverson6944 7 ай бұрын
Just cos the limit is 60, doesn't mean you ride at 60.
@nuttycommuter3718
@nuttycommuter3718 7 ай бұрын
@@dannycolverson6944 no indeed, but the biker was riding at a speed from which they could stop in the distance they could see
@Sly_Wolf_1
@Sly_Wolf_1 7 ай бұрын
He probably didn't see you until it was too late because the junction was blurred out, that's probably why you failed to see and anticipate.
@ProcyonAlpha
@ProcyonAlpha 7 ай бұрын
Slow the hell down!!!!
@TheKrimzonGuard
@TheKrimzonGuard 7 ай бұрын
Doesn't look they're speeding bruh. Learn to drive maybe?
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