Driving Two Turbos!

[@matpatte]

996 Turbo without a doubt. People can hate the headlights all they want, but you can't deny that it's the only 911 without VW Beetle headlights.

[@JAYREAD]

Yeah!

[@ThatOneGuyMax]

Savage, I love it! So true :D

[@laiebi_3639]

Completely agree, would choose 996.2 turbo, just love the looks 😍 to each their own

[@andyp6724]

I would take the 996.2 for sure. I just think it has so much more presence on the road. It looks fantastic - a real head turner!

[@JAYREAD]

AGREED!

[@tserzz]

Beautiful vid quality Jay. The more raw 996 Turbo for me, the 996s are a solid everyday, yet comfortable all weather road fighters. The genius designer created the beautiful 996 Turbo, whilst retaining some of the old Porsche character along with the new. (I actually owned a new 997 S for a few years) It's difficult to explain, but I started to be inspired by the older 996 design. I also felt that on driving they were not so dislocated from the driver like the newer cars. I realized that the 996 Turbo is one of the last raw urban icons with plenty of the Porsche analogue character still and in keeping with the essences of the past. That red 996 turbo is transcendent.

[@JAYREAD]

Thank you! Fully agreed!

[@rodanone4895]

agreed and then some. people kept trying to sell me 997 or 993... for the price of a 997 turbo i purchased 996.2 turbo. 996.2 carrera, 996.1 C4, and a 986 S to boot. back when i was told "these will NEVER be collectible." ok. I'm gonna drive em.

[@jason22spurs]

996.2 turbo

[@713vinh]

The 997.2 for sure! Not only is it a better performance but more stunning visually.

[@almart8991]

996t, the best looking hands down

[@jonathanwinkley602]

Great video Jay and yes I agreed 996.2 turbo please sxpecially in the rare guards red! Really appreciate all your sterling efforts, fabulous contribution to porsche shinanigans :)

[@JAYREAD]

Thanks Jonathan!

[@classiccarsmunich]

Just loving the 996 Turbo! Nice Video!

[@JAYREAD]

Vielen dank!

[@James_Sovereign]

996 Turbo for me, but I'm biased as I own one. I could have stretched the budget to a newer vehicle, but the bang for your buck of the 996 is outstanding ... and I actually like the headlights, I think they're iconic.

[@JAYREAD]

Me too. My choice too.

[@tedwarner1041]

Great video. I have a 996 Turbo S manual. 444hp stock. But I have a Ti x pipe exhaust and Cobb stage 2 tune. 550hp. Cheers. Mine manual ant 28k miles.

[@melbguy1]

The Stig commented about his 997.2 Turbo "I just remember thinking that I would never need anything faster than this". But he's the Stig. That said, 996.2 Turbos being underappreciated are a relative bargain. And as you said, "414HP is as fast as you'd ever want to go". Personally my ideal car if I had the money would be a 2019 VW Golf R Special Edition released in Australia which had an Akrapovic exhaust, premium Dynaudio sound system, lighter Pretoria 19" rims and the bigger European cross-drilled brakes. With a mild Stage 1 tuning kit and about a dozen or so supporting mods, that car is capable of 370BHP and around 480NM of torque. But the Golf is 100kg lighter than the 996.2 Turbo, has 4WD, a faster DSG gearbox, and would come in at about half the cost of the Porsche. The Golf would also cheaper to service.

[@Inazuma68]

I am an absolut fan of turbos, as a 68 kid I grew up like you with the first 1975 turbo. Everybody loved it. But now I bought a 996.2 GT3 CS. When I pushed it to 8000 on a test drive, I fell in love with that engine and had to buy that car. What a joy to drive! Big plus: on our twisty roads in Switzerland it is good to have a car, that is not so wide. The latest 911 are too big for narrow B-roads. Very funny because I never was a big fan of the 996, but it ages pretty well and the sleek silhouette is classy.

[@JAYREAD]

Yeah!

[@davidfountain4229]

It’s not a turbo but I finally found my 1999 996 Cabriolet today in Guards Red with Savannah Beige Leather with 29400 miles. I pick it up next weekend. Cant wait!!

[@JAYREAD]

Wooooo hoooooo! Congratulations, David! That’s great news!

[@arighosal4809]

Jay you looked chuffed on this vid! Rightfully so esp when you have these two Turbos. The 996 turbo with the Metzger engine is bulletproof. Great 👍🏽 set-up. Although my personal choice would probably be the 997.2. You can’t go wrong either way!

[@deedoubleyatraining]

Well Jay, as you said “For the money” I’d be taking your 996 C2. Naturally aspirated and full of character!

[@JAYREAD]

Good man, David!

[@roninsc]

Great video. As a former CT resident....it's good to see great cars in great CT sunshine!

[@stevenkrekeler8403]

I have a 996.1 C2 and and 997.1 TT. Love both cars. The 997.1 has a metzger engine and it puts out 480 hp. Paired up with a manual transmission the experience is surreal when you get on it. All of the cars you are talking about here have a nimble footprint since they were designed before expansion of the wheelbase and the overall size of the 991's. Frankly I don't think you can go wrong with any of the cars you have on this list

[@kellycoffey4501]

I spent a part of my weekend on a fun, spirited drive with about a dozen various other Porsches. Including a 997 turbo. It was amazing to see all those cars wring it out around the corners. But I gotta say, I had no less of a smile on my face with my “lowly” 996.2 Carrera than anyone else in the group. And I was not left in the dust, either. The base 911 Carrera keeps up with even the 500hp monsters on most roads. My vote, with price considered, is the 996.2 Carrera.

[@johnnavarro3188]

996 .2 all the way, narrow bodied Carrera is just sublime, great video well done.

[@JAYREAD]

Thank you!

[@redflame4389]

996 turbos are more raw and the headlights are aging really well.

[@JAYREAD]

Agreed!

[@danielpan5147]

Completely agree about falling in love with the current car under your tush...that's why I HATE going on unnecessary test drives!!

[@pjay3028]

997 Carrera S is the perfect compromise between your 996 and a Turbo. More comfortable, faster but not too fast. Nicely exploitable.

[@garoglasser]

I agree but I am biased as I have a 997.1S, I have had a few air cooled 911’s and the liquid cooled cars are better to drive. But if the budget were larger I would go for the 997.1 turbo as this still has the mezger engine and the gen 2 dose not.

[@mrblue8365]

As an owner of a 996 turbo I feel I am biased. 33K is what I paid for my cabriolet turbo and I could not be happier with my purchase. Smooth ride and very creature comfortable. Except the exhaust and media center the car is perfect. Any suggestions on exhaust?? That aero wing is now on my radar as well. Great video as always. Enjoy your channel and appreciate what you do.

[@JAYREAD]

Thanks so much! There so much choice on the exhaust front. I flit between just deleting the mufflers and going with a full system. Have a look at Fabspeed.

[@bobford7366]

How long ago was that where $33k prices were around?

[@mrblue8365]

I bought in April of last year. Searched multiple states around me and found mine. Flew to Texas and drove over 1000 miles home. It was a great experience

[@bobford7366]

@@mrblue8365 Awesome and congrats. May I ask how many miles were on it? The cheapest I found is $45k, but it has a problematic title.

[@mrblue8365]

89K , 2 owners and a 2” thick folder of records. It’s a cabriolet which I know is not as desirable, but I love her. Beautiful lines with the top down.

[@owengriffith7672]

Great video Jay. My vote is for the 996 Turbo. Amazing performance, great steering feel and excellent handling. Also very reliable and not too expensive to run after 13 years of ownership and 90000 miles I have an 04 turbo cab manual, so slightly biased. Added a Speedtech 2.5 X-pipe exhaust to sort out the (too quiet in my opinion) exhaust note. Also added stage 1 software tune, best HP and torque gain for the money. Very driveable at low RPM and massive thrust when on boost above 3500!

[@jaapthieme6561]

Yes the Turbo looks great Jay! Unfortunately too expensive for me..

[@DJ_Driven]

The 997. 2 spec and that interior color is perfect! Better engine, better interior, limited production run with great spec will only go up in value.

[@greggbull9543]

Great video Jay, I actually looked at both the 996 turbo and the 997.2 turbo as well as 991 GTS. In the end I bought a 993, go figure..I’m old school I guess. Both are excellent cars but I found the build quality on the 997 slightly better.

[@JAYREAD]

The build quality is better, there’s no doubt but I really loved the 996.2.

[@greggbull9543]

@@JAYREAD I have a guards red 993 and I have to admit that 996 Turbo in guards red looked stunning 😍 Maybe have a little chat with the kids and then send them off to take an apprenticeship, it’s cheaper than Uni….😱

[@JAYREAD]

@@greggbull9543 That’s the spirit! I bet they’d make great chimney sweepers!

[@sidewayssam]

Having had a modified 3.4 1998 carrera with 330bhp and my 2002 996 turbo, the carrera was the more playful entertaining drive. The turbo is brutal and devours roads, but is not playful ( not had on track yet) though i love it.

[@JAYREAD]

Yes, good thought. They are different.

[@juandelagarza6718]

I own a 996.1 six speed and a 997.1 S with a tiptronic and both cars are fun to drive. The IMS bearings on both have been done which gives a peace of mind. Years ago I owned a 997.2 Carrera 4S PDK car and that is the one I wish I had kept because of the transmission. I love them all. My wife once told me she was glad I didn’t trade women like I traded cars and I told her cars were less expensive and less troublesome then women, we both got a laugh. Whichever one you choose or own enjoy it, they are great cars.

[@JAYREAD]

Lol!

[@CapitulationTrader]

Jay, I like your commentary and conclusions (and other miscellaneous videos). Thanks. I’ve owned 993, 996, 987, 997. I agree with you on these eras. Cheers mate (from near Boston)

[@JAYREAD]

Cheers!

[@slytherben]

I can't get over these prices. I feel like they're all over priced. But that's 2021 for ya. Really happy I got 997.2 C4S. Closest you can get to a Turbo without spending Turbo money.

[@JeffJacquesmd]

I’d go with Turbo over the S, better engines, more power and they both hold value over their slower sibling. Given the price point I’d pick the 996.2

[@NTGInnovations]

997.1 manual transmission is the way of perfection! ;)

[@Phil99six]

Ignoring the prices and forced to choose between the two, I’d take the 996 turbo. I just prefer the styling. But if I had 997.2 money to spend? I’d buy a 996 GT3 👍 NA over a turbo

[@JAYREAD]

Haha! I’m not a GT3 type of guy.

[@lepepus]

I Enjoy your videos, but the sounds levels are all over the place throughout most your videos... but enjoying the content! Cheers

[@hansschweikert9153]

I think the 996 turbo hits the sweet spot

[@JAYREAD]

It did!

[@Sh0SUPERMAN]

In canada these are same priced: 996 turbo or 997.1 S or 997.2 base. Which one to go with?

[@JAYREAD]

You have a great dilemma! Try all of them and then buy the Turbo! That Mezger engine!

[@lepepus]

Based on your analysis, I would say THE 911 for you would be the 996 4S manual. You get the sexy turbo curves, N/A usable power and the 4wd.

[@abagley2334]

If I had, Up to $70k 996.2 turbo $80-100k 997.2 turbo (s) Over $150k 997.2 turbo (s)

[@JAYREAD]

You like the 997.2 Turbo then!

[@abagley2334]

@@JAYREAD haha, yeah I wasn’t very sublet there!

[@The_Silversurfer]

997 turbo gen 1.5 for me. It had the best option the mezger gt1 engine bomb proof and modern interior

[@JAYREAD]

Fabulous!

[@mattbuckley392]

Great film Jay ... you are really getting even better with your style of presentation. I would take the 996.2 for it's goofy retro looks. I have driven a 997 Turbo and it was ridiculously quick .... loved it. I do think Turbo's are the goto 911 .....

[@JAYREAD]

Thank you! Me too. I’m not a GT3 person.

[@2jzhx60]

You need to use some image stabilization. Vids are shaky doing the outside footage outside the cars.

[@JAYREAD]

OK. Hoped you liked the content though?

[@2jzhx60]

@@JAYREAD yes it was entertaining. Just debating purchasing between 996 and 997 turbo

[@JAYREAD]

Ah! Fed up with the 2JZ?! ;-) 997 is a bit more modern but not a whole lot faster. 996 is better looking in my opinion - 997 looks like it has ram-raided a car parts store - although you might be offended by the fried eggs. 996 is, of course, a whole lot cheaper which is a big boon. My choice: 996.

[@2jzhx60]

@@JAYREAD yeah.. looking for a more luxorious ride and not a boyracer car 😅

[@TheWombatCredenza]

Great content as always Jay!

[@JAYREAD]

Thanks chap!

[@dmdcarrera]

I've owned a number of water cooled wide body 911s. Loved the 997.1 4s, .2 4s and turbo. I still own a 996 turbo and 996 4s. More raw, more focused in my opinion. They're all great.

[@sherparoyale]

Can you please help me understand why a 996 turbo AND 996 4s? Did you get one first and decided you want another for something different? What other options did you consider? I just got a 996.2 turbo and already want a 996 or 997 c2 or 4s too for some reason.

[@dmdcarrera]

@sherparoyale I'm drawn to 996 and 997 for different reasons. 997.2 c4s is very different from 996tt in good ways if you're looking for variety when your taste for these cars is narrow, if you know what I mean. 997.2 is more refined, feels much more "luxurious", is about as reliable as a mezger, and becomes unique when considering pdk and direct injection. Though, personally, I always end up favoring the more basic/focused layout of the 996, the rear end of the 996 4s is in my opinion, one of the nicest. It sounds much better than most 911s I've ever heard. It feels more pure to me in relation to other water cooled cars. I just like it more.

[@martinwadsworth6760]

Nice vid Jay. Do you have any thoughts on the ride quality of the 996 Turbo vs the 997 Turbo?... the 997 having the PASM set-up. Cheers

[@JAYREAD]

Thanks Martin. Actually, I couldn’t really see much of a difference. Porsche has these cars so well set up that I think you’d need to be going much faster than we were or be on much rougher roads to tell one from the other. Both were supple enough for a comfortable ride but firm enough to push on when you want to. That’s the USP of a Porsche, isn’t it?

[@martinwadsworth6760]

@@JAYREAD Interesting; only from what I'd read, I thought the PASM equipped 997 would offer a more compliant ride in it's standard setting then firm up in 'sport'. I've just joined your Facebook group; would you be up for further 'chat'? Cheers

[@JAYREAD]

Of course! Email me at [e-mail]

[@daviddevine5310]

decisions!?! this person seems to have chosen both! nice video Jay

[@JAYREAD]

He’s a very nice guy too. And hugely lucky to have such a superb collection!

[@jonasmagnusson2099]

997, looks amazing!

[@johnireland1629]

Well, I like the looks and lines of the standard Carrera over the turbos, but I like the engine of the 996 turbo, and I like the interior of all the 996s vs the 997. So I'd go with the 996 turbo, then your Carrera, and last the 997.

[@sonnicman]

Jay I’m with you 100%. I was also born in the 70’s, and if I was in my 20’s or 30’s I’d take the 997 in a heartbeat. But if I was to caravan with you down to Tail of the Dragon this Fall, it would be in the 996. Curious, are those two for sale?

[@JAYREAD]

No sir. They are very much loved by their owner!

[@rjdavies1982]

I sold my 996.1 turbo a couple of years back to buy a 1970 Aston DBS which I love but miss the turbo! I agree the 996 is a lovely looking car, especially so in turbo form. My car was seal grey, I'd love one in Lapis blue. As for the 997, I would consider a turbo one but I think the .1 might be the one to have - lovely Mezger engine but the 997 interior. I'm interested to hear why you think the DFI engine trumps the mighty Mezger - just a power issue? I used to pretend I was in a race car in my 996 mainly due to that race-derived engine!! Is the DFI as robust as the Mezger too? I think a tiptronic / PDK suits the character of a turbo car perfectly and would pick over a manual too! Cheers!

[@JAYREAD]

Yes, progression. The DFI is much more powerful. How is the DBS? I’ve always wanted a DBS V8 from around 1971 and wondered what you think?

[@rjdavies1982]

@@JAYREAD I love it thanks - a drivable car but a work in progress! I’ve got the 4 litre vantage engine with triple Webers and five speed zf manual box. Love the V8s too! My dad had a series 2 db4 as our family car in the early 80s (they were cheap as chips back then) so the six cylinder engine sound is nostalgic for me.

[@JAYREAD]

@@rjdavies1982 how lovely! You’re a lucky man! I went to the factory in 1988 and saw them being built. Men beating panels with hammers! Used to live near there so I’m a huge Aston fan!

[@Yodaandhislightsabre]

Jay; wondered if your handbrake button shoots out intermittently? My 996 did. Sort of annoying, but mostly made me laugh.

[@JAYREAD]

Actually no! Mine works fine! I did borrow an SC once and at the moment I handed the car back to the owner that did happen to me! Very embarrassing!

[@sutherlacd27]

I went with the 997.1 turbo. I considered the 996 turbo but in the end the interior, fried egg headlights, hips, and mod cost vs return pushed me to spend the extra $10k on the 997.1 turbo.

[@JAYREAD]

No bad choices here!

[@tserzz]

Had another look at the vid. They say Red Level is at the top of some of the best hotels. Geeeezz that awesome Red 996 Turbo is at the Red Level of Porsche Turbos. Its that cool that it has to be insane !

[@JAYREAD]

It really is. Probably the very best one there is. In a club of not many anyway. It was a true privilege to drive it and, as the owner of it would tell you, I couldn’t take my eyes off it!

[@JuanHernandez-ov8wv]

Jay great video but honestly t 996.2 carrera is just t way to go. Obviously it's just my opinion .I love my 996.2 n its just more fun i feel connected to t road. Specialty when manual. Just like my precious. Lol. Most couldn't afford t turbo models specially t maintenance. Im an auto tech n For t money. 996.2 naturally aspirated worth it.

[@JAYREAD]

Great post! AGREED!

[@computerhelpcc]

base Carerra 3.4 manual trans with Fister exhaust (akin PSE permanently sports mode, $600 shipped from CA USA). Can be wrung out in twisties, growls fabulously from 3k-4.5k , can still hear/feel Variocam2 above 5k, 3.4 has lowest bore score threat of 996-997.1, and IMS replace you just do. Interior door design vastly more interesting that 997 and later. Plastics in center also don’t show scratches while 997 is very scratch prone. Turbo n intercoolers considerably mute flat six sounds, alas, if you are at 70 and need to pass quick cannot beat Turbos, and certainly nice for touring triple digit length journeys. Driving in tight canyons marked 30 MPH only a few straights, the Turbos are not superior.

[@jonasmagnusson2099]

You are realy good!

[@JAYREAD]

Thank you!

[@ChrillePavlin]

996 every day! 997 just looks like any other porche.

[@JAYREAD]

YEAAAH!

[@jonasmagnusson2099]

I dont think that you need turbo, nice but very expensive!

[@ESKATEUK]

There’s just something about the 996. I think I’d take it. And in all honesty, I love the interior of the 996 especially in that cream. The 997 looks more modern, but I do not prefer it.

[@JAYREAD]

Same!

[@ZaherHedjazi]

from a 996 turbo(TIP, AEROKIT) owner, i prefer the 997.2 turbo S

[@Joey856721]

996 Turbo is beautiful in red. So feminine and curvaceous.

[@JAYREAD]

Agreed!

[@rex2837]

Interesting question that I personally answered about 5 years ago. It went like this, what attracted me to a Porsche ? It’s iconology. But what sold me? Frankly, Jeremy Clarksons hatred. And the Isle of Man episode. (There’s many more factors but I want to keep it short) Porsche 911, it was. Now which one? 996, 997. Wide body rear stance, all wheel drive, must have. My choices now: 997.1 4s or Turbo. I was told don’t ever drive a turbo if you’re considering one bc you’ll never be happy afterwards. Choice , 997.1 turbo or 997.2 turbo. At this point 997.2 turbos were 100- 120k USD. Low mi examples. So I chose 9971. Turbo for significantly less at 80-100k. A non trained eye wouldn’t recognize the diff. And the pdk was near brand new and seemed too modern and expensive. 997.1 it was, manual or Tip? I’ve had manuals in the past, but I appreciated Porsche bc it’s ability to combine sports and comfort elements. I wanted the tip all along. Cab or non Cab? Cab was a no brainer bc I grew up in convertibles. The thought was, you get alll of that, AND it’s a convertible!! Plus it’s a hard convertible, not the kind which are prone to a razor knife. So that’s it, and a puff of blue smoke! 997.1 turbo cab great vid thanks for posting

[@JAYREAD]

Love the story! Excellent! Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@randominternetuser2888]

Funny story, i already have 2 turbos and a Transsyberian 957. I don't have to choose.

[@LetsDIYIt]

Jay, I am local to you (we've chatted in some of the Facebook groups before). I have a 996.2 C4 Cab 6spd with X51 package. It needs some maintenance, and is well worn, just went over 100,000 miles, but if you'd like to compare an X51 996 with your Carrera, I'd be happy to meet up sometime and hand you the keys.

[@JAYREAD]

We should do that! Just for fun! [e-mail]

[@LetsDIYIt]

@@JAYREAD I'd be happy to. I'll shoot you a message.

[@8hoffa]

Jay, du bist ein Genießer!!!! :)

[@JAYREAD]

Danke fürs zuschauen! Ich bin froh, dass es dir gefallen hat!

[@rapidstu01]

I'm looking at 996 turbo's, now about £40k + If I sell my 944 cab and mint 350z I'm getting one, prices are on the up tho. Got to own a 911 before I die.

[@JAYREAD]

They’re a similar price over here. A good one goes for $65k to $70k which is an increase from the $40k to $50k they were two years ago! Good luck!

[@guss2099]

Why do people move the number plates to the side? Its not an Alfa Romeo! Other than that, really nice video.

[@JAYREAD]

Thank you!

[@bobford7366]

Maybe it was easier for the owner to affix the plate so he didn't have to drill through the bumper. I know certain Porsche buyers try to avoid cars with drilled bumpers.

[@mariossergides7294]

Decisions, decisions. Got to be the 997.2

[@robertpastorek]

I would buy 996/997 GT3... Im not GT3 guy , im only curious ,how IT rides, personally i preffer All dailly Turbos 😍 So i bought in in 2018 996 turbo, techart tuned 560 PS - best car i have driven... Dream car of my teenager years 🤗. .. got addicted to Porsche ,so bought in 2020 997.2 Turbo S , i think Carbon aero packet from factory 💘 Love both of them 996t/997t the same , like your children, i cant tell which more. Dynamically both are cca the same, 997.2t with PDK is great , easy to control even for my wife 🙄 , thanks torque vectoring perfect in curves roads... but in 996t

[@robertpastorek]

... but in 996t i feel more conected while driving ... Old school feeling ... for mee 911 unicorn, which history wiil aprreciate in 20 years ,like IT deserves. Old GT3 i will probably dont by because of ratio price/performance and because my Techart 996 t / roll Cage, bucket seats, brakes, sequential gearbox... / is at the bottom altought the same like GT3 ... only my more fatt and nonathmosferic 😇 In the end i love your videos Jay, Continue in work , i think you are by now TURBO infected and soon or mater you buy one too 🥳

[@JAYREAD]

Thank you!

[@bobford7366]

@@robertpastorek Thanks for sharing your perspective, especially since you're an owner of both. I am about to pull the trigger on a manual 996 Turbo X50 Cabriolet, but I wrestled back and forth between this and a 997 Turbo Cabriolet. The deciding factor for me is that owners such as yourself keep saying that the 996 has a more analog feel when driving. The manual 996 is the last true purist car before Porsche installed electronics for every component.

[@robertpastorek]

@@bobford7366 If i should advice you, the choose depends on your preferences for driving/styling/ and money ...the most 😥. X 50 996 t is I think perfect option, enough Power, and if you dont mind aesthetics of GT1 lights and interior / for me no problém fór driving pleasure / , it IS almoust the same like 997.1T. Power to weight, same Mezger engine, similar chasis, little more weight... So i agree with Jay ,that 997.1 could bee named 996.3 T. For mee the main evolution IS between 993 to 996 and another between 997.1 to 997.2, ...not between 996.2 to 997.1 ,how someone could to expect. I have never driven original 996T, and my Techart tuned 996 T one IS closer to be like GT3 ,so thats the reason why, I love ridding 996 T ,despite of more modern 997.2 PDK - each excellent, both facile, but so different like " mr jekyll and mr hyde ", because manual versus PDK. Contrast in money and achievement between 997.1T and 997.2 T lack in another motorpowerplant / Direct duel injection, variable VTG turbo - first world petrol engine /, torque vectoring , revised chasis, Dynamic motor mounts , PDK vs Tiptronic.... Its not only Porsche Tech sales promotion, but personal experience. My younger brother has almoust two years 997.1 T Tiptronic, and before I bought mine 997.2 PDK , he he said after shortly driving it ,thats another space , and if I wont buy IT , he will buy IT alone ... So thanks you brother , I am now owner because of your presonal interest 👌🧐🤟 Sorry for so many words... If gramaticaly not corect ... Greatings from heart Európa - SLOVAKIA 🥰

[@bobford7366]

@@robertpastorek Thanks for your insight, I appreciate it.

[@outi777]

Bruno from Finland i now my choise because to morrow i go get my dream 997 Teckhart edetion whit almost 700hp and completly in carbon .Jay if you come to Finland you can lend my 997 Turbo any time......

[@JAYREAD]

Hey Bruno! THANK YOU! One day……

[@francisflorez5581]

Hands down the Mezger

[@Dailylifebydeli]

I have the 996 3.4 and the 996 turbo both totally different cars.. The 996 3.4 is fun ro drive without turbo and still have enough power.. And the Turbo feels heavier offcourse and you can feal it with a drive...

[@JAYREAD]

No substitute for real world experience! Thanks for posting!

[@mikeboy2306]

996 tt all the way Only because I have one lol 😆

[@sgttombailes3380]

I appreciate the Turbo power. However, I'll keep my 58K mile 996 Gen 1, well sorted w/ Ims, etc~~~. For my driving, I love the power it has and the drivability on the street. I DO NOT need a Turbo, it's a total waste around town and for daily driving.

[@andrewoakley4957]

I guess that's you trying to convince yourself there then! 😉

[@HoustonCanuk]

I own a 996.2 C4S and would gladly add a 996.2 turbo. It is the best car for the money.

[@carsandwatches5195]

How does a 996.1 C4S look? Or a 996.1 turbo? 🤪

[@maninahat1417]

superb

[@simonrose8558]

Great video, terracotta omg...

[@simonrose8558]

Ps, what does the maths say re bhp per kg and residuals etc...there must be an algorithm resonating in your head...

[@JAYREAD]

Ha! Good point! I need to redo all that because the market has shifted considerably! I would say, however, that the 997 prices have gone up more than the 996 and so 996 probably takes it and, for that matter, the Carrera.

[@SpasticusMaximus]

Great video mate. Obviously no one knows about your day job at the CIA.

[@JAYREAD]

No. They didn’t.

[@kenqv3481]

Can’t get past the tumor growths on the lower front end of the 997s.. ehyuck!

[@JAYREAD]

Naaaah

[@t.s.9592]

Seemed you enjoyed yourself driving both but my impression is that your heart is with 996 despite the price difference etc. And in my personal opinion 996 whenever it is turbo/C2 or C4S (which I’m lucky to own) has much more character compared to 997. And this extends to the interior, front lights of a mk2 model and overall appearance on the road. I always enjoy your vids, best wishes

[@JAYREAD]

Thanks for watching, Thorwald! Yes, you are spot on! My heart is with the 996. I just prefer it.

[@rodanone4895]

I just want to say i have both the turbo and the carrera from 03. day for day... prefer the carrera. the turbo wants to put me in jail. they all have foibles. the turbo will eventually throw a cooling tube. the carrera. bore scoring is most scary... and I've been there. we made lemonade. it's a 3.8 now and it's FAST. best m96/7 ive ever driven. but still not Metzger.

[@JAYREAD]

Nice analysis! Who did your 3.8?

[@rodanone4895]

@@JAYREAD the Werkshop in Melbourne FL. Dan Cleary and the crew are the reason i switched from BMW a decade ago. all LN parts. some local machining work. As long as you are patient. Their engine work is excellent. They did a 2000 3.4 right before mine and a 2004 GT3 right after. Both are used at autocross and track. one of the best bits of advice for M96 at the track. replace the stock oil pan baffle. it made a large difference in my oil pressure once the lateral acceleration and rapid direction changes start. I'm hooked on the cars though. Boxsters too. it's a hoot to drive. just pulls and pulls. and it's so light. you made some great observations I thought. I am revelling in the love for the 996. the local "philes" always turned their noses up... now they're genuinely interested in the cars.

[@JAYREAD]

@@rodanone4895 thanks mate! Great post! 👍

[@rodanone4895]

@@JAYREAD thanks for the awesome video! glad you had a great day with great cars! always awesome to share with like minded.

[@JAYREAD]

@@rodanone4895 definitely! This is a safe space for Pcar chat!

[@TheWombatCredenza]

The porsches are great but I’ll take that American flag limo. Just kidding , silver turbo please.

[@jason22spurs]

Cut the music

[@MR-cp4sj]

I have to say, the 996 turbo is a much prettier car

[@JAYREAD]

I agree!

[@nicholasjustinmiller]

320hp in your car? At the wheels? definitely not

[@JAYREAD]

No one said ‘at the wheels’. Definitely.

[@nicholasjustinmiller]

@@JAYREAD 996 just needs leather everywhere and the interior would be superior to the 997 IMO.

[@mrh6577]

I would take any 997, generally, over a 996 as I prefer the looks and interior of the 997. I paid more to get the 997. However that’s the standard carrera . When it comes to the Turbo there is something about the Turbo cars which is a great leveller. I’m not sure if it’s just the slightly different styling? The engine? I wouldn’t pay the difference when it comes to the Turbo. It’s too great of difference. I would have the 996.2.

[@xliu37]

997.2 don’t have legendary Mezgar engine

[@JAYREAD]

True!

[@mach51]

cant really hear you talk over the road noice...

[@JAYREAD]

Can’t be helped. There was no way to change that. I think I can be pretty easily understood and the pictures speak for themselves. As I said, I am trying to get some time in a quieter environment for a deeper dive. This is a quick and dirty first look! Sorry about the sound!

[@sionak]

You say ERR a lot

[@JAYREAD]

I do!

[@johnnavarro3188]

996 .2 all the way, narrow bodied Carrera is just sublime, great video well done.

[@carsandwatches5195]

I love the 996.1 Narrow body with the factory aero kit. Pure beauty