Dry Start Method - Can YOU do it without Co2?!?

[@Bobby11]

It was your series on dry start that got me started. I managed to use the dry start, and no die back when i flooded. Problem now is EVERYTHING IS GROWING WAAAYYYY TOO FAST! Your videos are just that good i guess :)

[@TheWaterBox]

HAHA! That's the problem with high tech. It's a lot of work when you lock it down. Now it just feels like you're trimming plants and not keeping fish

[@Bobby11]

@@TheWaterBox THREE hours yesterday, i decided to trim it all right back so i can have a few weeks off :| to be fair my fish are far too friendly so that slows me down.

[@TheWaterBox]

Haha! Shoo fish, go away!

[@TankTastic]

Glad to see this channel active again!

[@TheWaterBox]

More to come!

[@HisValor]

Thank you for the video, I’ve done DSM a week ago and it seems like some of my plants are browning. I have light on about 10 hours a day, I water them once in the morning and once at night, I have saran wrap covering the tank, feels humid when I put my hand inside the tank to give them a little air for 5 to 10 minutes. What am I missing that’s causing some of my clumps of plants to start browning?

[@dannyt8219]

could you use co2 booster liquid like API, and the other ones instead of installing a co2 tank system

[@OLRACMOTOVLOG]

Sir during the dsm day 1, can I also plant my dwarf hair grass and giant hair grass?

[@QueAquatics]

Oh! So glad you’re back, I have to catch up

[@TheWaterBox]

❤

[@Stodium]

Thank you for this. When you flood, do you keep your CO2 running 24/7 initially? My understanding is that plants don't utilize CO2 unless there is a light source present, so would I only run the CO2 system like I would normally (basically only when the lights are on)?

[@TheWaterBox]

No, Just run as normal once flooded, when lights are on

[@cnaizhen]

Thanks for the video. Can i use seachem excel as an alternative to co2 during this transition period?

[@TheWaterBox]

No.

[@subdave7]

I found your first ds video today. And you release another. Its a sign. Im doing this

[@TheWaterBox]

Right on! Good luck!

[@IzuClarinson]

I wonder if in place of CO2, a regular air pump system would make a good substitute? Or is there not enough CO2 in the air to diffuse? I wouldn't have the disposable income to continue purchasing cans of CO2 after the tank is established, so purchasing all of the equipment at the start just to not be able to use it later sounds like a waste...

[@TheWaterBox]

An air pump is a completely different device for a completely different function.

[@victorb145]

Yeah I agree the it seems like a lot of wasted time effort and an expensive system to only quit using. One of my main goals of a tank is to keep fish planted or not. You can't have fish while the system is dry and it sounds like initially the CO2 would be too high for fish as well. I seem to have tripped over a reduced light method of converting plants. Time for my disclaimer I'm still figuring it out I E testing. Still I have technically been testing for about a year. I say technically because I wasn't initially aware of what I was doing.Still It seems to be working. Okay how it works. Ok he is talking about a highlight carpeting plant. I haven't gotten to the Highlight plans yet, but it will work the same if it works. You plant the tank and fill it. You start the light intensity at the high end of moderate light and the low end of highlight. The floor of highlight if you will. And wait for the plants to respond. They don't necessarily have to grow but a positive response. Mine changed color but instead of melting back the leaves started moving up and down as the light ramp up and down throughout the day. They are ready to move on, then you just slowly ramp up to your maximum light level. I have a Fluval 3.0 light on a pro setting. So in the morning the leaves are reaching up toward the light. As the light gets to its Max setting the leaves relax and go to a more horizontal position. Then as the light ramps back down the leaves start reaching up again for the night time.

[@haoo31]

I have a 4 gallon tank that is 12in in height. I'm going for a low tech setup, filter but no c02. I want to grow monte carlo, what cheap light do you recommend. Thanks!

[@TheWaterBox]

I acutely use this for one of my 4g: amzn.to/3kPCGDV Or you can try something like this for low tech 4g: amzn.to/2FmXHW1

[@haoo31]

The Water Box Thank you so much. Your channel has been such a blessing for a beginner like me! Keep up the amazing content:)

[@TheWaterBox]

Not a problem!

[@houston_pmd]

how has your monte growth been? care to show photos? im trying to go the same route no co2 but but filter only

[@TheWaterBox]

@@houston_pmd I'm not growing monte carlo. I'm not sure what you're talking about?

[@jeremiahholland8089]

I am planning on growing some baby tears in my 55 gallon tank by starting with the dry method, however I wanted to know will the baby tears grow fine if they are in spectrastone gravel or will it just die off due to not being in the right gravel.

[@TheWaterBox]

I don't think spectrastone gravel will help at all. You need a branded substrate that has nutrients backed into it. Something like ADA Aquasoil or Contrasoil should work too. If not, what you can do is dose the water you're misting with with ferts and hope for the best.

[@jeremiahholland8089]

@@TheWaterBox okay how many pounds of ada soil would you recommend for a 55 gallon tank

[@TheWaterBox]

That I dunno. Depends on if you're using other substrate along with it? If you're just using the ADA, then just read what the recommend.

[@TheWaterBox]

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[@TheWaterBox]

OMG, a Vew Reply Clicker... for you... a joke: How does a penguin build its house? Igloos it together.

[@min2oly]

I'm doing this right now! started last friday with water up to the lowest exposed level of substrate. As soon as I saw growth (monday), I started adding water using a mister, very very very very very slowly. basically the mister is sitting in a bowl on stilts. I run the mister every hour for 1/2 hour (automated using a wifi plug/outlet) this has added about 2mm/day of water but it also keeps the plants and seeds seriously wet. the lowest level of seeds/plants (about 1/5) are currently submerged in about 1cm of water. seeds in that water are still germinating. It's pretty cool to watch. nothing floating yet. The lower/carpet level should be fully submerged by next week. Currently it looks like 30-40% of the seeds have germinated. I never thought about co2 withdrawals! hopefully this method will help reduce the addiction.

[@TheWaterBox]

Nice! Good luck!

[@min2oly]

@@TheWaterBox Thanks! The ground is completely covered now and 2" of water over the top so far. 6 floaters that didn't get their roots in, but carpet looks nice! I'm using your soil method with Onyx Sand, then Seachem Flourite on top. germination was about 98% I have to watch more of your vids to figure out what to plant next...

[@TheWaterBox]

😀👍

[@lawrencekim128]

Do you mind me asking how much it cost for everything?

[@TheWaterBox]

It really varies on which brand and the type of set you get. It can go from $100 to $1000.

[@mudgemudge7042]

Will it work if I use liquid carbon?

[@TheWaterBox]

No. It definitely will not even if it actually works as carbon. I explain in this video about what I think about liquid carbon: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYnXaq19pr6Dh5Y

[@houston_pmd]

have you figured it out with liquid co2?

[@TheWaterBox]

@@houston_pmd No? I explained it above.

[@jfdd43]

In theory.... if you let the plants grow some height, you can fill the water line so it’s always just below the highest few leafs. That might allow the lower leafs to die off and grow back submersed, while the higher ones collect co2. I’ve never tied it, so who knows if it works

[@TheWaterBox]

I think there are people that slowly floods the tank inches at a time. I've heard that somewhere.

[@jfdd43]

The Water Box it just makes sense. Something like Japanese moneywort would really take to it, because it switches to submerged so easily

[@TheWaterBox]

Right on!

[@brettpacker2779]

I'm thinking about replacing my garden lawn with val

[@TheWaterBox]

That'll be wave grass man

[@dinoprimi3914]

I’ll try it without co2, I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work. But let’s see

[@chubzaquatics257]

Great video 👍

[@TheWaterBox]

Thanks 👍

[@diskuslars7527]

Giving Co2 during a Dry Start is.. How was it in one oy your last Videos.. Poppycock😁👍 During a Dry Start there is atmospheric Air at the Plants and this has way more Co2 than we ever want to have in our Tanks

[@TheWaterBox]

In the video, we're talking about AFTER flooding. Are you watching the same thing? LOL

[@diskuslars7527]

@@TheWaterBox oh... I think I didn't hear that or was really good in ignoring this😅

[@TheWaterBox]

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[@mikesaquariums4293]

How do you say that again 🤣🤣 that was funny and good info thanks 👍

[@TheWaterBox]

Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@ferriapriansah306]

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[@TheWaterBox]

If I have the time. Sure.

[@k-c]

Short answer is: You are better off having co2 if you want HC.

[@TheWaterBox]

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[@gladboy7722]

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[@TheWaterBox]

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[@victorb145]

Sounds like a lot of unnecessary effort.