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@needaspank29542 жыл бұрын
how do you feel, i like your review?
@stuartdarling16202 жыл бұрын
I listened to these two in a showroom the other day on an A/B comparison with a range of music. The top end on the focal is definitely smoother and with the bump above 10k feels like much more top end extension (although I think I'd want to trim some of that high end down ever so slightly). I don't know what trickery focal have done but the smaller bass driver feels like it has just as much extension at the bottom as well. Granted the midrange is slightly different to the Yamaha but you can always use a little EQ here. What is clearly different in person when you listen to these is that the fiberglass sandwich cone on the focal is quite a bit better at reproducing transient detail in the bass and low mids and the instrument definition and soundstage/imaging created by the focal is more significant than the sound on this video would lead you to believe. They're a quality box for the money and while they may not be perfect, frequency response can be adjusted with EQ, while transient response (which comes from driver motor strength, cone rigidity etc.) cannot. So I'd opt for the focals (perhaps with a touch of EQ here and there) for this reason. Everything is very tight and crisp on the focals, the Yamaha's are just a little bit 'wooly' in places, not by much but enough that I noticed.
@oleksandrpotylko80549 ай бұрын
I definitely hear a port noise from focals.
@OMPTraxxs Жыл бұрын
I tested the yamaha hs7 and the focal alpha 65 evo in my home office at once. And the yamaha was more detailed and clear in the mids and highs. The bass is also very clear. For someone the HS7 have a little less bass. But for me its enough for analysing. The focal have more bass but dont know if this really helps. In the mids and highs the focal are much less clear and detailed. So sound more like a Hifi Speaker. I send the focal back and keep the yamaha. If you want more bass take the hs8. But in my room the focal was to much. The advantaged of the HS7 is you can hear clear and detailed already at low volume level 😉
@OtisArcade Жыл бұрын
Just picked up the focal evo 80. I’ve had the Adam T8V, Tannoy Gold 7 and JBL Mk6. The focals eat all of those for lunch. I am beyond impressed with the imaging and accuracy. Night and day
@peterbigblock2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had both the HS8 and Alpha 65 Evo. The latter is more accurate in the low-mids and smoother at the top. The Yamahas are fine once you’re used to them, but the Focals are just more accurate to the source and translate more easily. In some cases, much more easily.
@sagarchawla81452 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@rsvp98165 ай бұрын
this is what i hear, but the focal seem hyped in the mid bass region, they got a little bloat there but also offers superior stereo detail. the yamaha has very thin lower mids. both have small issues at the end of the day.
@JohnWuMastermind2 жыл бұрын
The Focals are good for cleaning and shaping frequencies when Mixing. The Yamahas HS8 are good for level adjusting when mixing. The combination of both gives excellent mixes These 2 compliment each other for those who can afford both
@pascalmerschaudio2 жыл бұрын
The Track Man on fire , Focal has the extra Growl on the Lower Midrange
@nukliozz2 жыл бұрын
Focal's seem to compress the mid and high frequency. Yamaha HS8 is a clear winner IMO.
@DT-yt2zh2 жыл бұрын
These speakers are within US $100 for the pair, so based on price they are a fair comparison. It's too close to tell over headphones and compressed audio for most tracks. The Focal have a bit more noticeable mid/upper bass response, which the graphs seem to confirm. For a studio monitor, I might prefer the Yamaha between the two but again, it's close in this format.
@thesampleguyco2 жыл бұрын
Close call, on some tracks you can't tell much of a difference at all. For the others, I believe the focal wins this comparison. It has a slightly more full and rich sound. Although I'm not sure how both of these would translate your own mixes. That is the most important thing when it comes to choosing monitors.
@ThomasLaangАй бұрын
HS8 has a lot of a hissing noise in the last track. Might get the Focal as my small room HiFI speaker.
@voxwah758 ай бұрын
The Yamaha seems to keep it in control a bit more in general, for 'homefun' extra growl the Focal delivers that a little more, for the balance and fatique I would prefer the Yamaha's.
@hadkmusic2 жыл бұрын
I watched previous videos of adams vs these focals adam just not touched the focals in the quality of the sound but the hs8 are just there like if focals are 100% then hs8 are 98% close but it is also surprising how a 6.5 inch cone gets so much bass response slightly more than 8inch hs8s wow hs8s are legends like ns10s happy to have hs8s poor adams t7v a7x
@TheCocaComa2 жыл бұрын
Can we have the Focal Shape Twins compared to the HS8 or some Adam's?
@andrewlim77512 жыл бұрын
Quite a close call, the Focal has better bite, better dynamics and deeper bass.
@romteb2 жыл бұрын
And the HS8 like the HS7 are tiring to listen to.
@Charles_Milles_Manson2 жыл бұрын
But worse mid freq
@jsehmbimusic9739 Жыл бұрын
HS8 feels a bit hollow in the lower mids I dont know its just my opinion
@loneronta Жыл бұрын
And better headache.
@beverpix2 жыл бұрын
Never heard any Yamaha that pleases me, so Focal wins. More depth in the sound stage, more balanced from high to low.
@kesamek85372 жыл бұрын
Would take the Yamahas in preference here. I get along better with the original Focal Alpha 65 than the Evos.
@Astro-X-Ent2 жыл бұрын
Everything you said is exactly where I stand also. 💯💯💯
@JohnJones-yw3dm2 жыл бұрын
Why do you prefer the non-Evo 65?
@Astro-X-Ent2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJones-yw3dm have a listen to the comparison, for me the old alpha deliver a more defined and natural response. The Evo seems to have a more boosted or coloured sound that I'm not a fan of.
@JohnJones-yw3dm2 жыл бұрын
@@Astro-X-Ent thanks but my question should have been directed to @Kesa Mek who I assume has compared them for real in person
@kesamek85372 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJones-yw3dm hi answer about original 65, I find most 6/7/8 inch monitors I've tried that seem genuinely quite flat and sound close to source material (Yamaha HS8, Evo 65 popular ones) can make it somewhat difficult to actually mix mids quickly, the temptation to under/over eq in that area 'not a clear decision' often for me on such monitors, but a monitor with slight emphasis in upper mids for me makes the job a lot easier ... that's the original 65. It is immediately obvious mixing on such monitors when you have gone 'too much' in the mids, on vocals or guitars anything dominantly midrange. Listen to comparison video of original Alpha 65 and Evo on this channel, it is realistic imo. Evo to me is ideal as a 'rough mastering' tool and superb as a producer speak, no question. Simply that original 65 has the slight emphasis where I consider it useful in a mixing device. This reason is also why for me the Yamaha HS5 has value in the mixing process. It puts some spotlight where it's needed for mixing the frequencies we're most sensitive to. Original 65 does it too though with softer treble and more bass than the HS5 of course. It's a personal matter but that's the reason in what I hope is a useful description. Pair of Evos and a pair of HS5s as second reference, totally good. That would work fine for me.
@needaspank29542 жыл бұрын
it would be interesting to have the comparative temporal response (waterfall) of the two speakers.
@마시멜로숯불구이2 жыл бұрын
Feels like focal made a monster
@pascalmerschaudio2 жыл бұрын
Focal´s are so on point, with their speakers,
@djrobtech2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Focals are more accurate in this one.
@busywl697 ай бұрын
HS8s are really nice, especially for that price. Love mine.
@SimonLloydGuitar2 ай бұрын
i had a pair for years and they were exceptional for the price.
@marciliofernandes16772 жыл бұрын
Yamaha Win !
@quananginh94462 жыл бұрын
Easy win for Focal, cleaner sound with more depth and details.
@byniasofficial25672 жыл бұрын
Focals have more meat imo.
@joewolf382 жыл бұрын
Focal mid-bass is thicker, the balance is better, but i hear the box more maybe by the front reflex output. The individual taste decides:-). Thx, compare again!
@needaspank29542 жыл бұрын
I also have the impression that the bass reflex at the front alters the perception of the microphones between the two speakers.
@user-sf9rn9yx5f Жыл бұрын
Amazing
@rsvp98163 ай бұрын
I had a chance to listen to the focal alphas in person, the tweeter does not sound very good. the treble is disconnected from the woofer. if you like a cheap metallic sound then I guess its cool.
@drunit81222 жыл бұрын
call me crazy but i think the yamaha's sound better. something about the midrange that no other speaker can reproduce. idk, maybe its rear port vs front port.
@wiz8056 Жыл бұрын
GOOD
@gotyor2 жыл бұрын
better bass extension and punch, but not flat on evo... but i like that. Yamaha mids are more forward than focal and more mid detail. But the evo wins the highs, not as harss at yamaha's. this is tuff because when i mix its all about the mids, but I have a set of yamaha 5's with sub to do mids... evo would be a better set of second monitors. But if I had nothing I go with yamaha hs8 more flat full range sound for less money!
@AbhayRajan2 жыл бұрын
Hi can you make a Video on Micca MB42 and MB42x ?
@freemindas6 ай бұрын
I prefer the ones with the white cones.
@jenshuxley2 жыл бұрын
Like Focal more but both good Studio Monitors.
@Astro-X-Ent2 жыл бұрын
I'm really not a fan of these new alpha Evo at all. They sound very forced in comparison to the Yamaha here which deliver a much smoother response across the whole frequency range and the fact that the hs8 has a bigger cone it shouldn't really be the case... 🤷🏿♂️
@JaredSchumaier2 жыл бұрын
Still not liking the EVO?
@Astro-X-Ent2 жыл бұрын
@@JaredSchumaier absolutely not 🤣
@JaredSchumaier2 жыл бұрын
@@Astro-X-Ent I’ve been actually using them in my studio lately. And they’re great. Give them a chance. Not mid-forward like you’ve said. Well-balanced and blow the Adam’s out of the water (T7V).
@Astro-X-Ent2 жыл бұрын
@@JaredSchumaier I'm actually worried that if I don't find the alpha 65 I won't know what else to have 🤣 I've been comparing and trying to decide for a while and as soon as I decide on the 65 they bring out the Evo as a replacement which really isn't like the alpha. But I do hear you about giving them a chance 👍🏿
@JaredSchumaier2 жыл бұрын
@@Astro-X-Ent they’re actually really similar. My engineer friend used mine for a week and barely noticed a difference. You can’t go wrong with either. Buy some and get to using them and stop wasting time bro!
@elvinsontaveras71252 жыл бұрын
Kali Audio IN-8 vs focal alpha 65 evo
@JDiggiti2 жыл бұрын
focals sound more defined & clinical. HS8 for me
@tomassofianopoulos89572 жыл бұрын
Close but Focal wins!!
@MikMech2 жыл бұрын
Another quality comparison! Not much in them? The Yamahas seem to have a 'Fuller' sound at loud volume. (Deep)
@matthewblue78392 жыл бұрын
It’s very disconcerting how different the source track sounds, much more mid range forward. Why is that ?
@TheReaperOO2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what are the differences between S351DB to S350DB because it's seems like there is only color different.
@rdolle9902 жыл бұрын
Updated remote and newer Bluetooth version.
@pecacartun2 жыл бұрын
I prefer Focal listeinening to this.
@frattuncbas Жыл бұрын
Give your money to Eve Audio
@piotrdrajewski30792 жыл бұрын
Witam pomieszczenie 21m który z tych monitorów polecasz do produkcji edm obecnie posiadam KRK rokit 5 3g
@DSAUDIOreview2 жыл бұрын
Sam używam i polecam Yamahy
@piotrdrajewski30792 жыл бұрын
@@DSAUDIOreview dzięki za odp ,a już parę dni temu chciałem kupić Evo ,choć znajomy namawiał mnie na Adamy ax7 pozdrawiam
@piotrdrajewski30792 жыл бұрын
@@DSAUDIOreview hej ostatnio kiedy pytałem jakie monitory polecasz odp że yamaha bo sam używasz a mam pytanie co sądzisz o focal alpha evo 65 porównując je do hs8 jutro jadę do sklepu muzycznego i zamierzam coś kupić pozdrawiam
@DSAUDIOreview2 жыл бұрын
@@piotrdrajewski3079 oba te monitory są solidne więc kup te ktore bardziej Ci przypadną do gustu. Pozdrawiam
@SimonLloydGuitar2 ай бұрын
6:50 the sibilance on this recording is unbearable
@vittoriobizzarro6205 Жыл бұрын
Ridiculous yamH 🤣
@Subholik32 жыл бұрын
focal
@D-Press2 жыл бұрын
They are same nothing big different
@balizamusic2198 Жыл бұрын
Bla, bla, bla...bla. Yamaha wins as a mixing monitor speaker😊.