Nothing but second fixing

[@richardwilliamson3624]

Aico instructions say the interconnect should be sleeved brown

[@dsesuk]

You're right, they say it should be "treated as if it were live... it should be insulated and sheathed". I suspect this is to cover their arses from a miswire occuring.

[@digitalradiohacker]

@@dsesuk I'm an electronics nerd, NOT an electrician. When I see anything coloured brown on a household wiring system (not that I'd ever fuck around with such things), I assume it really is mains live. Surely if these systems are any part of a standard, the wiring should have a distinctive colour that marks it out as being different to the other mains stuff?

[@acelectricalsecurity]

@@digitalradiohacker i dont think it should be marked, i have never marked it, like he said its not mains voltage, and really it should only be an electrician working on it, and they would know anyway. if i had my way i wouldn't identify switch wires behind a switch either, as any electrician would know they are all live, its only the idiot diyer that wouldn't know, and that person shouldn't be messing around in there if they dont know what they are doing.

[@supersparks9466]

I leave it black

[@petereyre5188]

@15:30 entitled Nice Ass shot!! That alluring sparks pose in summertime knee length workwear and the infamous one leg on the countertop and other leg on the industrial steps. Obviously the favourite pose from the International Sparks pin up calendar, all that's missing is the Megger test unit hiding the micro penis and us from trauma. The original term for shielding I believe. Thankfully the stain from wet farts not yet showing but at the perfect height for a good seeing to?! 👌👌👌🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@fijtips112]

When you put the endoscope up I was half expecting to see the plasterer to have crossed out "heat" and written "ha ha ha" instead!

[@mattcartwright8272]

Loved the rant! Well justified - time is money.

[@dsesuk]

Just no need to spoil the next guy's day.

[@davidcross30]

Especially as it ultimately fucks the customer around too.

[@leightonhughes1635]

Love your detailed header dealing with the profanity complainers. Please don't change what your doing. Its fantastic. Real life tradesman banter between you and Nige etc, combined with superb knowledge and clear explanations of a subject you obviously know inside out. As you say if they don't like it they can go elsewhere.

[@mastergx1]

5:35 Its a fact - plasterers HATE electricians. I swear they do this shit on purpose just to fuck us up. The best I ever had was a new kitchen built as an extension. It was a very long house so I decided it would be better to run a "daughter" consumer unit in the kitchen fed by a 16mm t+e cable (off a 63a MCB in the main db if your interested). From there I had a lighting circuit, 2 20a radials and a 32a cooker circuit. All in there were 5 cables running down the wall in the kitchen which I fixed firmly and neatly with glavanised banding. The idea of course is that the kitchen would be rendered and plastered and I'd come back on my 2nd and install the c.u along with everything else. The first thing I noticed is that the cables were gone. Just disappeared. I called the customer who didnt have a clue so I asked him to call the plasterer and find out what was going on. The plaster apparently said "there were no cables on that wall" and that was that. SOOO, I cut a hole in the ceiling and found my cables all just rammed up there, still bearing witness marks from the banding i'd secured them with. I got my fucking grinder out and cut a new channel in the finished and painted wall. I brought my cables down and installed my consumer unit. I only told the customer what I had done once it was finished. He had to get the plasterer back out to sort it but as far as I was concerened - it wasnt my problem. I even charged an extra £40 for having to do the extra work. I wanst taking any prisoners on that one. Sparkys 1 : Plasterers 0

[@RWATraineeElectrician]

The plasterer and tiler must have been watching your videos. 😆😆😆

[@BoB4jjjjs]

"Yeah, he's on KZbin, let;s hear him swear at us so we can laugh at the language he uses ha ha ha ha ha...........................!!" Electricians always think they have to be wrapped up in cotton wool and looked after and no one else has work to do. But I have been pissed off at tilers before making things to tight and spent half a bloody day filing their stupidly hard tiles, ain't it strange, it is always when those super hard while ripple tiles are fitted with the super hard glaze, where the holes are to small or they leave things to tight. As for the plasterer with the wire on the roof, that would be very funny if it happened to someone else ha ha ha! :-D

[@mickbroadbent6750]

as a plasterer i always leave a message to sparkys where ive moved there wires to makes life easy for them plus im not getting call backs to patch up

[@GaryB007]

Don't change your videos. Of the electrical people I follow, your videos are the ones I look forward to the most. Excellent content - profanity included.

[@dsesuk]

Cheers Gary, and don't worry, the bad language is going fucking nowhere!

[@generaldisarray]

Keep the videos coming, I'm really enjoying them. That plasterer is a real bell end!!!

[@dsesuk]

Thanks for tuning in again old sport!

[@generaldisarray]

@@dsesuk No bother at all. Been binge watching your fantastic and sometimes hilarious videos while in lockdown. Keep up the great work mate

[@jonathanstephens7804]

I have a similar issue with a builder I work for. Last week just before skimming was done on a very small extension I had to find 2 sockets that were boarded over, a light switch and the smoke alarm cable! complete pain in the ass I had to take the boards down to cut them out properly. Love to watch your rants with those builders! great vid -:)

[@dsesuk]

Cheers Jonathan - sorry to hear of your own on-site headache!

[@HickoryHustle]

Hi David, Love your video's and never change please! I've been there before with the heat alarm cable being ''lost'' in the ceiling. I've found a solution to it that worked quite well with the AICO alarms I always fit when the cable has been pushed up and you know where it should be. Mark and cut a 1-gang dry lining box hole in the ceiling, this should be big enough to stick your hand through to grab the cable, then fit the dry lining box. The AICO alarms have many holes in them, and you can easily use these to get a fixing to the back box. Also, because there is a layer of polystyrene on the base of the alarm, when you screw it up to the box this squeezes the polystyrene so there is no visible gap. Another option if the tacking hasn't been done yet is to fix a 25mm metal box direct to the joist, making sure that it's proud a good 10mm. This will piss off the tackers enough to make sure they cut it out! All the best, Levi

[@dsesuk]

Cheers Levi. This was a strange one as the ceiling was just skimmed rather than overboarded or anything, so it was easy for them to work around what they could see. Can't explain why they went to the efforts they did.

[@xeno087]

Great rant about people making it hard for those following on - totally agree with you there. It happens all too often unfortunately... Also loved the tip about sleeving interconnecting cables on smokes 👌

[@dsesuk]

Thanks Chris

[@paulellam6926]

That plasterer has done a ropey job of that ceiling!

[@pauledwards9493]

Good luck to Daleep!

[@dsesuk]

Cheers Paul, let's hope he goes on to great things!

[@knightstemplar8379]

Loving the covid haircut, you remind me of, "Lloyd Christmas"

[@mrpoo7651]

Yes!!! 🤣🤣

[@RaithUK]

The rants, the sarcasm just ooz's from this one.. but i love it.. keep it up man its educational entertainment gold lol plus i can't believe you still have the bowl cut! Your braver than i am there :)

[@dsesuk]

At my age, fashion is something that happens to other people.

[@RaithUK]

@@dsesuk I don't disagree on that one actually.

[@supersparks9466]

Another tip for the cooker hood, I use click flow plugs and install them on 1st fix and bag it up, then fit the plug on the hood (if on site) or before it’s gets fitted, the kitchen twat can then just plug it in.

[@dsesuk]

A Click Flow was what I installed here as it was fused above the fridge. Still an awkward bugger to get the cables out of the small gap I had in order to terminate it!

[@supersparks9466]

@@dsesuk my point was avoiding the need to access the cable

[@dsesuk]

@@supersparks9466 The problem here was that the hood wasn't available to me at first-fix to terminate a connector onto. Rather than leaving the chimney off so that I could hook it up on second-fix, the installer had fully fitted it and in such a way that I couldn't get it off without damaging the ceiling.

[@TheEulerID]

I recall a builder telling me it's all the trades beginning with the letter P that you have to worry about...

[@kevvywevvywoo]

Fitted some 12V IP65 downlighters in my parents' shower room some years ago and the plasterer artexed them flush to the ceiling so they couldn't be unscrewed to change the bulb

[@chrisreid4909]

What a belter of a hair cut, didn't realise Lloyd Christmas did second fixes, great vid and loved the rant. 👍

[@dsesuk]

I'll do yours if you like. Bring your own bowl though.

[@alexdougherty4905]

Kick his ass seabass.

[@ianmcgonigle7225]

Lol lloyd Christmas. When are you doing the second fix on that haircut David. Quality watch as always.

[@bumbles1584]

Nice to see someone giving a lad a bit of experience, well done mate also a big improvement over Nige.

[@dsesuk]

Easier on the eye huh? Maybe I should keep him around and ditch the old bugger...??

[@JayTheSparky]

Definitely fair play David it’s always good to see firms giving lads a chance especially in these times. 👏🏻

[@knoxieman]

Daleep is just what we need in this industry, young, keen hard working and driven, i have never known an Indian who isnt hard working and keen, we could all take a leaf out of their book, superb video as usual, place turned out nice looking, first fix video I wasnt convinced, Im only down the road I will ask about, we have electricians in our family who are also Indian, I will ask about.

[@dsesuk]

The lad's keen. I hope something opens up for him.

[@peterpuchalski817]

i think the plasterers (if you can call them that) would have found a line of hammer holes in the ceiling that they would need to fill. Just say you were trying to locate a cable but were sure they wouldn't mind having to come back to do a little filler job, after all they helped you out so you thought you would return the favour !

[@whatthedeuse]

We alway centre to the lugs too, so many times you see people doing it to the edge of the boxes and as soon as they start fixing them the box deforms slightly they try to compensate for it then the lugs are out 😂 we also connect every back box with a 20mm galv coupler, it keeps a standard gap everywhere also as a means to wire through if needed 🤘

[@dsesuk]

Yeah, I want to see that line passing through where the screws go. That's a good tip with the coupler; I use it when like-accessories are going together, but I should probably employ it all the time to ensure consistent spacing.

[@whatthedeuse]

David Savery Electrical Services, it’s definitely worth doing the only thing to note is I’ve found that a lot of back box manufacturers use dies to punch the knock outs that differ slightly in alignment from one another so you have to turn the boxes to suit the alignment before knocking them out and committing to the position of the coupler 😂 there’s always one set that works.

[@andypayne1571]

2:40 should be a chilled out time of it...lol... Something always sneaks along and fucks you over, never let your guard down.

[@oscard-1863]

I sleeve it brown just as habit. And some manufacturers alarms use 230v as interconnect. I use click flow plugs behind extract chimneys. Saved a fuse behind the chimney and the fitter can plug them together. .

[@dsesuk]

Yeah, I used Click Flow here as the fuse was outside of the chimney, but the hood wasn't on site at first fix, so I couldn't pre-fit it before it went on the wall.

[@mjiow]

Good luck to Daleep! I was at college in 2008 when the arse fell out of the work with the credit crunch, it’s definitely rocky! Ended up working on ships for my sins instead 🤪

[@babarmahfooz2519]

lol…. you are hilarious mate. Very useful information as usual keep up the good work 👍 Stay safe.

[@keithquestedelectrical9785]

Hi David Another good vid Tilers and plasters seems to be the same everywhere that will be alright the electrican will get over it . Love it when they say just trim the tile or didn't notice that cable are you sure there was a socket there . Yes . And those stupid connections on light fittings bloody crap . Glad the lad has been with you he will get a far better view of what we do . Good luck to him for the future

[@dsesuk]

Thanks Keith. I'm not sure he's learning much from me other than a few new swearwords!

[@dg2908]

John Lewis light fitting. Can tell by the font on the sticker and the fact it starts with 'JL'. Very tempting to remove that class 2 fiddly-tiny-cack-joint-effort-thing and put in a couple of lever connectors, put a crimp eye on the CPC and then put the mounting screw through it before the ceiling plate. The only fittings that now don't include those horrible terminations are the ones the client wants fitting in a 1960's house where the otherwise sound lighting circuit has no CPC. It'll be significant pain in 10 years when you spend half of an EICR dismantling apparently metal chandeliers where you can't get an earth reading from the mounting screw, to discern whether they are improperly installed or in fact just class II

[@totallygrounded3766]

David Gill exactly what I do

[@dsesuk]

Damnable things, and I've done the same before where I've had to convert to Class I or oversleeve all the wiring coming out of the ceiling in an attempt to keep it all double-insulated. Someone will spend £150-£300 on a JL light, then assume you'll put it up for twenty quid.

[@mrgfromoxford8644]

Totally agree , I was on a new build 5 bed house and 50% of the sockets and switches were completely filled with plaster to the point I couldn’t even find them . Probably took a total of 4 hours plus decorators time to repair wall after I attempted to find them . Arseholes !!!

[@SamMegadeth]

You'll have to keep us informed on Dalips job hunt! I got really lucky in 2009 to get mine when there also wasn't much about. Can't imagine doing a covid job hunt, best of luck to him

[@dsesuk]

Cheers, we'll see how the lad gets on!

[@paultipton743]

Damn Tilers, its not rocket science to cut the tiles to the edge of the metal or dry lining box( I hate dry lining boxes under tiles when they have to be changed! ). I went to fit some socket a couple of weeks ago on new tiles with the boxes completely tiled over with just a small hole for the cables sticking out. Nice to see you back David

[@Ragnar8504]

In round box country they usually cut the hole the right size (hard not to if you're using a hole saw) but up to 2 cm off. Or they tile over the entire box. Last kitchen job I did was had the tile work done by the homeowner, that looked pretty much the same as yours here. At that point I also discovered that the Italian back boxes the HO specified (officially sold here but quite uncommon) use #6-32 UNC screws rather than M3.5 as I'd thought. Ended up using 3.5 mm sheet metal screws where I needed longer ones. Who would've thought Italian back boxes are actually American, including the screw threads?

[@sstorholm]

@@Ragnar8504 yup, Finnish electrics use round back boxes as well, they are really useful since you can fit additional rings on them, and make them proud of the tiles, making sure no one tiles over them. Same goes for ceiling boxes, they are even larger diameter, making for easy termination of all sorts of wiring with just flying leads down to the fixture, or even a socket in the plate if you want to get fancy, the new DCL plugs are marvelous since the plug sinks into the plates completely.

[@Ragnar8504]

@@sstorholm Tile installers hate that though. Good ones cut the holes in the tiles just right so they reach the edge of the box but don't cover the screw holes. I wonder if we'll ever get DCL connectors in central Europe! So far I've only heard of them being used in France, Sweden and Finland. We don't even use ceiling boxes here, except in concrete ceilings. You can buy ceiling boxes for plasterboard ceilings but they're only rated for 2 kgs, which isn't an awful lot. They're only fixed to the plasterboard itself, not the joists or metal framework, like the orange boxes for accessories, the ones with those little metal tabs that swing out and grab the plasterboard from behind.

[@alanisaac9114]

Thank you for your video I’ve been missing laughing at your rants quality as always, hopefully we get to see one with you and Nigel back on top form

[@dsesuk]

Nige and I will be appearing in a hot tub video soon! It... sounds more exciting than it really is....

[@doncodman913]

Hi David ... Hope you find this amusing ... when i put in our kitchen ... i cut all the walls for sockets for above the work tops, into the empty shell of the room. I measured up from the floor level. after all units were fitted and i did all the tiling and put all fascia plates on , my mate came in and pointed out the sockets were about 10mm below the tile join line on one side .. Turned out the floor has a slope . I never thought the floor would not be somewher near level. Obviously now i know about throwing a laser level around etc. Keep smiling matey. regards Don

[@dsesuk]

Ouch! That's a nightmare Don!

[@sheargillsparkie9588]

Plasterers and tilers are the bane of my life! Great to see young Dalip cracking on with you on this one. As us Punjabi’s say, “Chak de Fatteh” means smashing. 😁 Love it...

[@dsesuk]

A rather marvellous expression! Thanks for watching!

[@bobbyhynd5815]

Loved 2nd fixing mate. Had exactly the same problem. Sadly my customer was too close to vent my opinion. Remember though if a jobs worth doing, it’s worth doing twice for double money :))

[@marksimpson3035]

bloody heaven David, you need your superman t-shirt 🤣 always takes longer than you think 😎

[@dsesuk]

Meh, it's only a few switches and sockets. I'll book a couple of days to it and should still be home early! At least, that's how it usually goes.

[@jacgrobbelaar2425]

I feel your pain!! So ole Murphy threw a spanner in the works as far as an "easy day"! Love your channel and your content!

[@dsesuk]

Thanks for subscribing Jac!

[@bryankeane2971]

Absolutely brilliant mr savery. With that haircut your a double for rick Mayall in the young ones

[@dsesuk]

At least I look less like Greg Davies now.

[@richardm9550]

Relatively new to your to your videos David but I like them a lot. Its always good to see how others do things, learn from what you've done and the thought processes behind it. I have to say that I nearly wee'd myself laughing at your rant, not necessarily because what had happened was at all funny but I felt your pain and frustration. Having watched several of John Wards videos which are very good, its quite refreshing to someone else let rip in the same manner that I would of. Keep up the great work and if the swearing gets to much, I can always go back to John's channel :-)

[@dsesuk]

Thanks Richard, I appreciate your time watching this nonsense!

[@davidtaylor4975]

Another excellent video! New haircut is awesome. Keep safe Mr S.

[@dsesuk]

Cheers David. I hope to set a trend with the haircut. I call it "The McTwat". When the barber reopens, be sure to ask for it.

[@markhamilton7122]

Great video David, always get a great laugh from your content 😂😂😂 us sparks can all relate to the pish you need to deal with

[@DavetheVillaFan]

Keep up with the entertaining videos Mr Angry - all part of life’s rich pageant!!

[@AllStarNES]

Somewhere on the road I heard bugger lugs are used to help make plastic accessories Class 2, for the old lighting circuits with no cpc 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dsesuk]

An interesting point, although it doesn't really make it Class II as you only have a single insulating layer over an exposed conductive part. Anyway, Reg 410.3.9 gets you off the hook as part iii says fault protection can be omitted for items of insignificant human contact (i.e. metalwork that cannot be gripped and is less than 50mm x 50mm).

[@simaesthesia]

All the best for the interview Daleep! Fingers crossed for you :) Didn't realise at first you'd filmed it on POETS day lol

[@iknowmyfootball3901]

Grip it fixings are excellent we're you cannot install a batton for ceiling lights, highly recommend!

[@dsesuk]

I have some on the van Matthew, it's good gear as you say.

[@Brynoize]

love the rage at the moved cable

[@Mike_5]

Possibly your haircut is more savage that Savery but it is quality content on the Tube

[@elektrikeren5049]

Another great and funny video. Thanks David. 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻

[@dsesuk]

Thanks for watching again!

[@davenorth1265]

It's nice to see other people have exactly the same issues on site as I do. I have also stopped doing the tape for exactly the same reasons. Once had an issue with the hagar buggerlugs working at a policemans house. At a glance he thought they were Amphetamines!

[@dsesuk]

Haha! That's quality! You've gotta be careful when pulling a little plastic bag out of your pocket filled with buggerlugs!

[@leestewart1848]

Great video, opening my eyes to a lot of new things. Although, i'd hate to call a sparky and ask him if he could diagnose a fault in the middle of a wall, or if he would fisch a cable over my kitchen, or put a noggin under the floorboards.

[@Ragnar8504]

I've seen those "terminal boxes" on the cheapest 36 W fluorescent strip lights available in the whole country (€ 9.95 I think). They really seem to be designed for nothing more than a 2-core flex, preferably 0.75 mm2. I wonder if we'll be seeing ceiling boxes here in the near future. The new regs (not yet in effect) will require back boxes for any lighting position that doesn't have a light connected by the original installer, i.e. pretty much any lighting point in a new/renovated flat. Apparently someone's been sufficiently annoyed by countless cables dangling out of walls with - at best - some choc blocks on them, at worst some paper painter's tape :-D The problem is that only one manufacturer makes flush boxes for lights in plasterboard/plaster ceilings and they're rated for a gigantic 2 kgs. Not sure what we're supposed to do with heavier lights or what's going to happen if the first unsuspecting homeowners hang crystal chandliers to those flimsy dry-lining boxes.

[@opotts56]

Loving the company coloured turban

[@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse]

Good to see you giving trainee apprentices a chance to experience the full blooded curl of on the job training and learn the true inscrutability of other craftsmen with their hunt the cable game.Mind your going to have to up your game on the looks front if you have the young chap in future videos ,at least you stood a some change with Nigels craggy looks as background fodder but the game is afoot now so maybe some designer shorts will help.

[@dsesuk]

Even with this haircut, I still like to think I'm the eye-candy on the team Andi!

[@himars5410]

nice job,i'm learning from you,i working i schneider instalking HV panels,but wery intresting about home instalation.

[@dsesuk]

Thanks for watching. I'm sure your Schneider panels are more interesting than my house bashing antics!

[@andrewwilson4402]

Hope ur doing well Dave. Love ur content as always ❤️

[@dsesuk]

All good thanks Andrew. I hope all is well at your end?!

[@HollierElectricalContractors]

Love the content and especially the ranting. Epic as always.

[@karl3721]

Cracking rant Dave, I feel your pain it seem to be getting worse, plasterers and bog fitters are in competition to bugger a job up

[@kevinmcgeough4245]

Hi David love the videos keep up the good work

[@0liver0verson9]

I always look forward to the profanity. So glad to have a new video from you to enjoy! Having said that...... once again I'm under the influence while watching ;)

[@dsesuk]

Best way to be with these videos Oliver.

[@stanslad7868]

Well done David, yep, same old shit to get over after the other trades have been in, when you took your cap off, I thought I was watching the first series of Blackadder tho'

[@dsesuk]

I'm bringing back '80's fashion. The 1780's that is.

[@alfiewoolard2598]

Fantastic stuff- glad to see more content from this spiffing channel!

[@dsesuk]

Jolly good show old man, more in the pipeline!

[@alfiewoolard2598]

@@dsesuk Ah brilliant! I shall look forward with baited breath..!

[@michaelgrant6920]

Excellent video Dave, loving the Covid Cut..😆😆

[@davidroche6973]

Can I just say I feel your pain, was working on a garage conversion and had the exact same thing with a light cable thrown randomly back in a ceiling with extra bonus new noggings to work around 😭

[@dsesuk]

Always a game when your cables are not just moved out of place, but additional barriers have been installed to prevent you getting it back!

[@BigRedViking89]

Why did the tiler not just carry out the job properly the first time round saving themselves time and money. I share your frustration I had the same issue with a kitchen rewire. If I follow in from a tiler/part time electrician and they’ve done a good job with the tiling, kept it neat and easy for myself to second fix, I’d be happy to keep in contact with said tiler and maybe utilise their services down the road.

[@dsesuk]

Quite so Daniel. Can't say what this one was thinking. Maybe it was a Friday afternoon job?

[@nickstocker5921]

Brilliant and highly entertaining as always. Basil Faulty springs to mind, just need to swap the endoscope for the branch! By the way when is new toy Tuesday making a return? What is the endoscope and where’s the ferret?

[@dsesuk]

Ah, a new New Toy Tuesday to come (eventually) following a recent purchase...

[@quigofamily6362]

Almost Every single job for me that builders are involved cables pushed back and skimmed over! Arseholes! Even had it on every external wall on one job boxed out everything and they dot and dabbed plasterboard over every outlet

[@dsesuk]

Damn them Evan!

[@enriquedmu1]

Have not watched yet, but excited that's theres anorther video. I have a lonely night coming up with this video and a few IPA's to keep me company. 😉

[@dsesuk]

Always best to watch this cack while under the influence.

[@enriquedmu1]

@@dsesuk enjoyed it. Its good to see this type of "documentary" style vid, showing the pitfalls of the job. I recently had the builder set in a stone work top where my cable from the DB was supposed to meet the socket. All surface layed cable due to it being an outdoor/open brick shed thingy, so i had to drill through the brick to come back in a meter up. I was similar to you shouting "BBAARRRRSSTTAARRDSS"

[@9plusinstalaciones]

Good evening, we never fix the boxes in, where theres tiled walls so we can adjust them to aline in the centres of the tiles.

[@dsesuk]

Here it would have made no difference as the tiles prohibited the accessory being placed on them anyway. Still, I'd rather centre the box and assume the tiler is adept enough to shape his tiles around what he can physically see!

[@9plusinstalaciones]

@@dsesuk as we stick our boxes in with fast drying plaster, we leave it to them to sort out. Those tiles just look a pain but surely it would look better 2 cms up ?

[@markpunt9638]

Fascinating that people love those bare floors. When I was young, it was considered really cheap and tacky. Though she could afford slightly more had linoleum. And the really posh had carpet. How times change…

[@dsesuk]

Nobody wants a good shag pile any more. At least, not from my experience, but maybe it's the haircut...

[@damonbtc9701]

Like to see your technique fitting out ....show off the skills we gain after all these years on our knees......double socket less than 1 min !!!!!!

[@dsesuk]

I probably should have shown some of the accessories themselves being wired; an omission on my part!

[@davidpatterson1574]

Good video David, in particular your views on “so called” class 2 lighting, with no provision for earth connection in the lighting fitting. I have often pondered the fact that IEE can change regulations at the drop of a hat, but can’t regulate for these type of light fittings. Keep up the good work, and it’s great to see young Daleep getting some good front line of experience. Any news on Nigel, is he keeping well?.

[@dsesuk]

Thanks David. Nigel is now back on the van, and another video is in the editing process starring him as we speak!

[@johnpriceuk]

@@dsesuk ohh yes just what I need, a bit of Nige!!

[@RedaReda-uk9lm]

It's a result of lack of communication. I guess it's a lockdown. That tile is easy to cut. I always like to hear from both sides before misjudgment.

[@dsesuk]

I'd have to disagree about it being a miscommunication: the tiler can see the box in the wall and knows an electrical accessory is to be mounted onto it. I shouldn't have to leave him a memo asking for the tile to be cut to the size of the box! As for the tile being easy to cut, well that may be the case, but why should I have to finish another man's work?

[@jacktissington]

We electricians are the only ones who think of other trades and at least five steps in front. We all hate the filthy mud slingers

[@dsesuk]

Other trades often don't think at all from my experience.

[@cocoino2307]

@@dsesuk im surprised drywallers can wipe their ass from what ive seen

[@stevecraft00]

Do you ever fit a dry lining back box where your smokes are going? Or a round plastic conduit box? This might signal to the plasterer a bit more obviously not to plaster over the thing.

[@dsesuk]

Not usually Steve as I prefer the hole to be as small as possible to help maintain the fire rating of the plasterboard ceiling.

[@stevecraft00]

Good point, I suppose you could go to the trouble of fitting a fire hood (remember those?) but why should you have to mitigate against stupid!?

[@SME_Ste]

Feel you main with tiling and cooker hood situations, it happens to me too many times

[@dsesuk]

No way to budge that one without scraping out the newly painted ceiling.

[@keithjohnstone9889]

What is it with other trades. Covering boxes, cables ect. First fixed a bathroom before the joiner went in just before lock down, cored hole in wall for 4" fan,ducted it and wired it. Went back and the joiner respotexed over the fan hole and cable, I was fucking raging. Had to get the ladders out and measure it from outside and cut out with a dremmel. 😂

[@meganstokes08]

You should keep the hat on till the barbers reopen. 😂

[@dsesuk]

Agreed; my McHat is slightly less embarrassing in front of customers.

[@davefletcher2664]

Telling it like it is Dave. Good video mate.

[@dsesuk]

Cheers Dave

[@bikerchrisukk]

When the lad said, "further afield", I thought...I never knew that expression at that age, I could barely put clean pants on.

[@dsesuk]

I never graduated to clean pants myself.

[@bikerchrisukk]

@@dsesuk Join me on a mature learning course in clean pants?

[@mathman0101]

Warwickshire looks glorious in the sun missing blighty....now in Virginia USA

[@dsesuk]

Is is nice to trundle around the rural roads in the sunshine!

[@mathman0101]

@David Savery Electrical Services lucky you don’t underestimate the value of such a time. Well done for taking the next generation under your wing he looks keen give him as much of your wisdom as possible he will value it when he is on his own. Your a good teacher.

[@RWATraineeElectrician]

29:52 Are you impressed? The look that says "Nope" 😆😆😆

[@dsesuk]

Today's youth aren't impressed by anything.

[@Ad-gn8pl]

The big question than need answering here is was the builders chewy milk from the fist fix video still there?? Also those Aico smokes, are they any good? My 20+Yr old BRK ones are overdue for replacement 🙄

[@dsesuk]

I think the milk got up and walked out itself. There's a whole new life-form wandering around! I like the Aico smokes; they're all I usually fit. They seem well rated in the industry.

[@Ad-gn8pl]

@@dsesuk Thanks I'll give them a go 👍

[@ericthekingthekingtheking4842]

David does nigel know youv brought in a young whipper snapper to his once untrodden turf👍😂

[@dsesuk]

Nige has been usurped!

[@RaithUK]

Hey David, as some one who is setting up a company i read lots of how you can go self employed or PAYE but no one really goes into what the most effective option is.. any chance you have some advice on that as you seem clued up on that stuff from the podcast i was listening to of you and Nick.

[@spelectricalservltd5959]

Not a boring video at all, enjoyed and can fucking feel your pain- other trades slowing us sparks down....

[@dsesuk]

Cheers Steve

[@DONK8008]

Good luck Daleep.

[@phillipgwynne6580]

You need to train Dileep (apologies if that is spelt wrong) some Sam Smith lyrics 🤣. Has he met Nige? God if it was the three of you, the poor lad’s chat would be nothing but innuendos later in life. Good to see you back.

[@dsesuk]

The lad has indeed been exposed to Nigel I'm sorry to report!

[@westinthewest]

8:35 Is the 16V DC truly separated or is it from a capacitive dropper?

[@ElJohnerino]

Brilliant, again. Thankyew. Question, if allowed? The first hole you made in the kitchen ceiling hunting for your clearly marked yet totally disregarded cable which found a brilliantly placed wooden beam was totally gonski after you'd fitted the sensor. Who's fixed that nice and invisibly, you or Billy Nofucksgiven, the Plasterer?

[@dsesuk]

Ah, not quite as gonski as you may think. A bit o' filler to stuff it up, then the base of the heat alarm covered it anyway!

[@ElJohnerino]

@@dsesuk Hahaha! It didn't show up on camera. Well, you got away with it though so Job Done. Tick.

[@CaptainK007]

Haircut😂the mad monk. 😂😂🍻🍻⚡️⚡️

[@MizunoIronMan]

Tell the work experience chap that his college will be “adapting” any outstanding assessments he may have. City and Guilds are monumentally passing the buck onto colleges and only this week have they taken this decision. It’s an absolute disgrace, every college can choose how they wish to adapt, from setting online exams to simply predicting grades . No standardisation at all, just a total mess. Learners like this lad who clearly is committed and conscientious will be feeling pretty pissed off when the lazy can’t arsed ones are awarded the same qualification .

[@amunderdog]

Also he should be paying attention to Mike Rowe

[@dsesuk]

Yeah, Daleep got word this past week of what was happening. It sounds like a shit-show, and the lazy kids who never bothered to dial in to the online lessons will probably be simply rubber-stamped as good to go which short-changes the keen kids who put the effort in and tars the whole 2020 graduation year with the same bad brush.

[@titmando1199]

My college has done the same, how-ever it's for adult learners only and they've just introduced live lessons and online exams the caveat is that even though we may pass the online exam it isn't the required City and Guilds exam more of a mock and we are still required to attend an invigilated exam on site when this pandemic final eases off.

[@MizunoIronMan]

Titmando Perfect example of the way this years course will be postcode dependent for quality . Distance learning has also been undertaken since lockdown in my area. As with Daleep some learners have engaged and others haven’t. Learners retuning to college to take an exam is not under consideration. City and Guilds should not be giving colleges licence to choose their own option, it should be the same across the board .

[@MizunoIronMan]

David Savery Electrical Services Best of luck to Daleep in securing a start somewhere, sounds like he has got the right potential anyway . A few days with David and Nigel can’t be bad for the CV 👍

[@Stop..carry-on]

Stick a terminal block on the end of the cable or write needed on Celine they wont push it back up - the plasterers assumes it an old pendant- seen it so many times

[@AndyK.1]

Do one That was my thought. 4 new spot lights. No need for pendent cable. Dave did write smoke on it though. The boss probably just told the apprentice to get rid of the cable from the other side of the room

[@dsesuk]

Maybe something more obvious should have been on the end of it, although the builder was there when we installed the cabling at first-fix, and other trades shouldn't be doing anything with the wiring regardless of whether they think it's old or new; it's not their problem and they shouldn't be second guessing it! I imagine you're right though and it was mistaken for a defunct pendant.

[@Bodragon]

(27:43) - *_USN - CHALLENGE YOURSELF._* Now if that was the United States Navy, which is what I actually thought it stood for, the accompanying slogan, *"CHALLENGE YOURSELF"* would have made perfect sense. But it doesn't. No. It stands for: *_" Ultimate Sports Nutrition"_* So... ...How much protein powder can *_you_* eat ? *Go on !* *_CHALLENGE YOURSELF !_* Mmm... >

[@richardperritt]

Shame about Daleep's interview. I had a few of those but back in "normal" times. Even had one where they made me stand outside in the rain for 45 minutes while they had a corporate meeting. Didn't need it that bad so told them where to stuff it. Daleep: Chin up mate. There'll be others.

[@dsesuk]

That's mad Richard. Any company undertaking interviews needs to treat the candidate as though they're a potential asset, otherwise how do they expect to get the best out of them should they award them the job?

[@chrisdonovan6247]

Great to see you back again dave , also are you going to be auditioning for jim carrey's role in dumber & dumber 3 with that new hair doo 😃

[@dsesuk]

I'm sure there's a Netflix reboot with my name on it...

[@chrisdonovan6247]

I reckon there is lol.

[@PaulMappud]

Rather David "Unsavory" with all that effin' and jeffin'... ... ... 😂

[@edglue6138]

Haha. Special Jack off Tropic Thunder. That hair cut

[@glennhart9410]

Ha ha yeah Simple Jack

[@supersparks9466]

Put an old alarm base on the cable, they never get pushed up.

[@dsesuk]

They were skimming the ceiling, so I figured I'd be doing them a favour be leaving just a cable for them to work around!

[@supersparks9466]

@@dsesuk never seen a spread doing me any favours