DTswiss Ratchet conversion!! How to upgrade to a Ratchet system free-hub for $150

[@aznguyen316]

I also went option 3 and took it to my LBS. My mechanic was just like Zach and handled the business for me. Also did the bearings too while I was at it. Saved a ton of money and supported the LBS. I went home and took care of the rest of the ratchet upgrade. They have a legit upgrade “LN” kit now which is what I did. Nice video happy to see you support your LBS when you can.

[@RydenDirty]

That’s awesome man. I’m glad this video helped. I figured share it with everyone so they can have an awesome upgrade for a way cheaper price. 🤘🤘

[@Tkolbo_]

I’ve worked in shops for 10 years and I never knew you could convert a 370 to a ratchet. I’m a noob. Great info man!!

[@RydenDirty]

I think basically if you can take the ring nut out , its convertible

[@dragrace1989]

Thanks for the detailed info - your parts list is greatly appreciated!! DT Swiss now sells this as a kit but only with 18 tooth star ratchet, how dumb! The main reason I want to upgrade is more engagement. No reason to buy a kit only to toss the 18t ratchet and buy a 54t

[@RydenDirty]

No way. Can you send me the link?

[@dragrace1989]

@@RydenDirty Toward the bottom of this page are the MPNs based on the different hub. www.dtswiss.com/en/wheels/wheels-technology/ratchet-ln-technology I was looking for XD hub so either HXYXXX00N3769S (Aluminum) or HXYXXX00N5971S (Steel) bikerumor.com/2021/04/12/dt-swiss-ratchet-ln-greenlights-diy-upgrade-kit-converts-pawl-hubs-to-ratchet-engagement/

[@acfella100]

Agreed stupid to throw away a 18t but that’s what I am doing. My kit comes in later this week.

[@rtmunro]

awesome video. thank you. just did mine in about 30 minutes with your help.

[@RydenDirty]

Thanks my dude. Hell ya that’s awesome. Such a sweet upgrade.

[@JonnieHammaStix]

Not gonna lie... you got me with the huge tub of grease lol.

[@RydenDirty]

🤣🤣🤣🤟

[@ernies351wvan]

Dude sounds badass !! 👌🔥🔥

[@RydenDirty]

Bro youre telling me. Freakin beeeezzzz

[@rosskline]

Thanks! Great video.

[@RydenDirty]

No problem

[@giscardc]

Good job, I bought mine on aliexpress and I'm waiting to change from 18t to 54t, my cube is dt swiss 350 strainght pull

[@RydenDirty]

Nice Dude. Its a game changer👍

[@geneseh]

That headbanger sesh 💯🤟🏼 Featuring local shops....awesome, that is good conscious YouTubing. 👍🏼⭐️

[@RydenDirty]

You know it! Thank you for real

[@adventure_arsenal]

Great info. BTW I ordered a hoodie finally!

[@RydenDirty]

Thanks Broskie, Hell ya thanks For the support🤟

[@adventure_arsenal]

Always man!

[@weekendmountainbiker9457]

Great job. Favorite shop in AZ, Iron Clad. That hub sounds so tight 🤙🔥

[@RydenDirty]

For real this place is awesome. Let me know when you're in town again so we can go ride

[@weekendmountainbiker9457]

@@RydenDirty I'm here now 😁. There is a chance I'll go to the Costco jumps tomorrow with my son. Not sure yet though.

[@sml2238]

the nice part about having the tool though is you could have taken the entire hub apart and cleaned the bearings and regressed them nicely that way your entire hub is fresh while you're in there since you won't be taking it out again for a while and it's nice to do the refresh while you're upgrading the ratchet.

[@RydenDirty]

That is true. I might do it again with my new wheels so I may just buy it.

[@sml2238]

@@RydenDirty yeah but to your original point if you're just going to do it once it's nice to know it's an easy cheap job taking it to the bike shop but if you're going to use it over the years it can be worth it. I've been on DT Swiss 240 EXP hubs. I'm considering trying the industyr9 hydras but at the same time DT Swiss has treated me well so not sure if I'll end up doing it.

[@RydenDirty]

@@sml2238 ya im not even sure if I want to try any other wheels besides dtswiss. I've always liked them

[@sml2238]

@@RydenDirty ya same I run the xm481's on my trail bike and the EX 511 on my enduro both with 240 EXP hubs w/ 54t ratchets. They've been really good wheels and hubs. I've thought about going with some ethirteen carbon wheels and either ethirteen or i9 hydra hubs but can't really complain about the DT Swiss they're great and the hubs never cause me any issue. also the wheels aren't much heavier than carbon but def a little more compliant and probably will take more of a beating.

[@RobFrancis-s3q]

Hi. great information thanks. Do you what is the thread on the ratchet ring?

[@RydenDirty]

Hey there. Thanks for checking it out. Honestly I’m not sure about the threads

[@octodadmtbmartyrichards2862]

Very engaging! I love tips that make Mtb more affordable! I have a dt Swiss hub on my Jeffsy. I new it is a good upgrade, but now, I will definitely be doing it. How much would your local bike shop charge for the whole job? Including the parts

[@RydenDirty]

Thanks My friend. Im guessing it would be nearly double only cause the parts they will buy will be direct from the manufacturer. all of the parts I bought were aftermarket except the Freehub body

[@Getoutside2day]

Good job bro. On the DT Swiss 370 it's a little more work to do the upgrade. Luckily I did the conversion to 54t ratchet for under $60 on the DT 350 and took like 2 minutes to install 😆. I'll tell you that the DT Swiss hubs are bomb proof and super reliable. Have fun with the better engagement, as it's a big upgrade from both the 18t & 36t imho. 😎

[@RydenDirty]

Damn you're lucky Bro. I basically had to gut it and start over. But at least I didn't have to buy a whole new wheel👍

[@Getoutside2day]

@@RydenDirty out of curiosity, how do you like your Koozer hub engagement/reliability?

[@RydenDirty]

@@Getoutside2day dude they are super legit

[@Getoutside2day]

@@RydenDirty that's what's up🤙🏼😎 . Glad you dig it 💯

[@Tkolbo_]

Dt for life over here!!

[@v8pilot]

With the reverberation on the sound I can't make out what you are saying. But the subtitles make sense.

[@RydenDirty]

🤔

[@mrfrogg46able]

i run a set of dt swiss 350s when i build my squish it will have the 240 series with inline flat spokes 24/28 h. i am going to build a 2018 specialized enduro comp.

[@RydenDirty]

Nice I want to see it.

[@damonmartinez231]

@RydenDirty Great video and nice breakdown. Any chance you have updated links to the parts? I'm trying to do this same upgrade as inexpensive as possible. 😄

[@RydenDirty]

Thanks man. Actually no. I haven’t looked because I don’t have those wheels anymore. But I’m sure those parts are on eBay still. Pretty much I believe whatever parts fit on a 350 hub, will fit a 270 and vise versa

[@DanK-Mtb]

is the "Here is the seal" link to the seal you re used but said you were replacing? The images of it, it seems to look like a metal washer more than a seal ( also expensive for what it is )

[@DanK-Mtb]

would there be any difference with the setup you went with, compared to the DT Swiss Ratchet LN official free hub body ?

[@RydenDirty]

So the seal that you're supposed to use is in the link. I tried to use the original one but it didn't work correctly

[@RydenDirty]

I'm not sure to be honest. I think one is just aftermarket and one is oem

[@DanK-Mtb]

@@RydenDirty ok perfect ratchet upgrade LN kit in stock anywhere so may go the route you took. So that seal works fine and no issues to date ?

[@user-nn4wj8gk9s]

If you do this don’t choose the super fine 54 tooth option.mine lasted 200 miles.dt said the 54t is not for mtb

[@vincentxie1]

Did the new seal work? I just converted and find the old seal won’t work, but had a hard time to find the right seal. The new one you linked appears to be the on sit in the shell?

[@RydenDirty]

I bought the new seal and it worked perfect. it does fit differently than the original one. I believe as long as its a ratchet seal it should work

[@vincentxie1]

@@RydenDirty awesome, is the seal to be installed on the freehub body or in the Hub shell?

[@RydenDirty]

@@vincentxie1 the freehub from what I remember

[@rafa6311]

que fácil parece , esta durisimo. el corto de la tienda como no salía, tiro a apretar y partió el anillo de bloqueo q hubo q sacarlo con martillo y destornillador la rosca se daño y el nuevo anillo se pasaba al hacer fuerza

[@RydenDirty]

Interesting

[@darrencarter7203]

Do you need a new freehub body as well or just change the outer engagement ring? You show a hub in the opening image of your video. But is the old one or a new one.

[@RydenDirty]

Yes you need a new freehub body. It’s in the beginning of the video

[@thebigjracer]

Great video and info! QQ about one detail, did you use the reuse the original end cap?

[@RydenDirty]

Sure did. The drivers are the same. But if you were to go from shimano you would need a new cap🤙

[@thebigjracer]

@@RydenDirty I'm installing a like XD free hub on the same size 370 hub. Thanks again for the quick reply and great info!!

[@RydenDirty]

@@thebigjracer no problem 😊

[@ernestmontalvo27]

Hey ran into your video and was wondering what was the part numbers for everything needed I have the same wheel set and been wanting to swap to 54t your links are no longer on eBay

[@RydenDirty]

Honestly I’m not sure about the part numbers but there are links below

[@mm-levo]

Like y suscrito desde España! 😊

[@RydenDirty]

Thank you so much my bro🇪🇸

[@mm-levo]

🙌

[@benrees3920]

Great video, I got all the parts and did the install this eve, my cassette freewheels fine when the wheel is off, but will not freewheel when it is on the bike. I must have watched your vid 10 times, followed it to the letter, but something is not working. I'm running the same Eagle GX cassette.

[@RydenDirty]

I would take it apart and check the gears. What hub do you have?

[@benrees3920]

@@RydenDirty DT Swiss 370 hub, used all the parts, and assembled correctly. I did also change the GX Eagle cassette at the same time as the old one had worn. I thought it might be an issue with that, but swapped back to old one and have the same problem. After another look I've found the cassette/ hub freewheels fine on the bike when the boost thru axel is inserted, however when I tighten the thru axel up the hub locks. I'm so close, but yet so far :0

[@RydenDirty]

@@benrees3920 that's a real bummer. I would take it to a shop its probably something real easy. I'm sure they could figure it out

[@benrees3920]

@@RydenDirty Update! I read that somewhere that when installing the new lockring nut that sometimes the shim can slip slightly, so it's not centred and seated on the bearing correctly, checked and this was the problem. All sorted - I now have the sound of the buzzing bees, just need to get out and ride now! Thanks for your help, top man!

[@RydenDirty]

@@benrees3920 Nice man!!!! Glad it was an easy fix. Now get out there and shred🤟🤟🤟

[@David-rb3tk]

Great video! Did your free hub body come with an end cap or did you reuse old one? Thanks

[@RydenDirty]

Reused the old one. They are the same 👍

[@David-rb3tk]

@@RydenDirty Thanks, I thought so. An Ebay reseller insisted I need another but I was a bit sus.

[@RydenDirty]

@@David-rb3tk ya watch put for those guys they want your money lol

[@Tntdruid]

Why not replace the bearing?

[@RydenDirty]

Didn’t need to I guess

[@downtoridemtb]

Great video! Any idea if you can do this on a dt Swiss 360 hub?

[@RydenDirty]

To be honest im not 100 percent sure. If you look at the parts I bought they should say if they are compatible 👍

[@ab_mtb]

Great video, did u use genuine dt swiss parts? All the parts I've found on ebay are copies. The genuine parts here in the UK are relatively expensive for what u get

[@RydenDirty]

Thanks broskie. I’m pretty sure all the parts I got were aftermarket. Hence the reason they were so much cheaper

[@ab_mtb]

@@RydenDirty how are they holding up?

[@matthewkyle3823]

Do a bike check of all your bikes. Please

[@RydenDirty]

For sure Buddy. Will Do soon🤘

[@Hijacker1981]

Would the upgrade work on the 370 2 pawls system also?

[@RydenDirty]

Yes as far as I know

[@augustdeleon7597]

bro can share the link where can buy the tools for 3 pawls ring nut removal. thanks

[@RydenDirty]

Youll need both of these www.ebay.com/itm/383427926980?hash=item594615dbc4:g:5XgAAOSw05leTNCa www.ebay.com/itm/174770495377?hash=item28b1221f91:g:CIwAAOSw8KRgoJf-

[@blwnova4155]

The 54 tooth ratchets alone are $120! And if the kit comes with 18T then OMG - LBS or not, this ends up being proper $$

[@RydenDirty]

Interesting it’s definitely a lot higher than when I bought mine. Can’t believe it went up so much

[@blwnova4155]

@ managed to get a kit with 36T on Amazon for just over $100 which I think is a good compromise of strength vs engagement and it’s for gravel not MTB. Also cheap tools on Amazon so I should be all in for less than $150 and be able to do it myself. Thanks for the vid.

[@TwoGuysOneVan]

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...... Nice vid mate. New driver sounds sweet!

[@RydenDirty]

Thanks Broskie👍 im digging it for sure. Now i need to put it to the test

[@coreywentz3422]

Thanks for the video. Couple of questions...where did you get the "lock ring"? Also the link to the hub body says its for a 350, not a 370, does that matter?

[@RydenDirty]

No problem Broskie. Got everything on eBay. Everything I bought said 350 but from my research they are compatible With the 370👍

[@deividdi5779]

Hello there, Nice job! I'm doing it on a 1900m spline too. In which case do you need to use the seal? I'm getting a regular ratchet hub. Do a need to get the spacer and shim? Thank you

[@RydenDirty]

You definitely need the right seal. I put the right seal in the description below

[@deividdi5779]

@@RydenDirty thanks for the info and link! Is this the same rubber seal people reutilized from their old hub? Or a metallic one? Thanks again!

[@RydenDirty]

@@deividdi5779 you want to use the metallic one. Thats the correct one

[@deividdi5779]

@@RydenDirty Copy, did dust/mud managed to get inside the mechanism while using the rubber seal? Thanks

[@RydenDirty]

@@deividdi5779 I don't remember anything getting in there but I got the new seal a couple days later

[@lucasredondootero8537]

I got question, does the hub legth measure the same after doing the upgrade? Nice video ;)

[@RydenDirty]

Thanks bro. Yes it's exactly the same. 👍

[@TheNewnan3]

Is the ratchet system better? I only have the ratchet system by chance. Instead of the dt swiss grease I used slickoleum when i upgraded to the 54 and 36 tooth ratchet...hopefully it holds up

[@RydenDirty]

you definitely get way better engagement when you have a ratchet system.

[@pwrcycles4735]

Does the bushing that's there with the paw system works with the ratchet system? or you have to get the bushing specific for the 240? I'm not sure if they are the same lengths.

[@RydenDirty]

No you need the new bushing. I believe the new bushing is smaller

The 240/350 bushing is longer (15,4 mm)

[@mikeqhoang]

Sweet man! I didn't even think about going to LBS to get it done. It'll definitely save me some money. BTW, which seal did you end up getting to be correct? Is it the seal on the freehub body or are you referencing to the cassette seal? LMK, thanks!

[@RydenDirty]

What i got was called the DT Swiss Cassette Seal. I believe it goes right onto the freehub body

[@99SiR]

Awesome stuff!! Did you need a new endcap or were you able to reuse the one from your 3paw freehub?

[@RydenDirty]

I was able to use the original one

[@99SiR]

@@RydenDirty wicked I appreciate the quick answer!

[@RydenDirty]

@@99SiR Hell ya my Dude🤘

[@franciscoleopo3060]

Hi Ryden I have a Sam xd Dt swiss 3 pawl 370 hub as I understand for me to convert it to star rachet I will need the 54t star rachet kit plus a new a dt 240 or 350 hub?

[@RydenDirty]

That's the same hub in this video the 370. Just buy all the parts in the description and take it to a shop and they can swap it. 🤟

[@franciscoleopo3060]

@@RydenDirty ok thanks will do

[@coltoneberly]

Did you use the endcap from your old pawl hub or did you purchase a new one? I didn’t see you link the end cap and can’t seem to find one.

[@RydenDirty]

Used the same one

[@coltoneberly]

@@RydenDirty Awesome, thanks for the quick reply! Now I’ll be able to get my Ebay order in today. Thanks for the video!

[@coltoneberly]

@@RydenDirty I did have one more question actually - were you able to use the bushing from the original hub as well, or did you have to purchase the new one? It seems as though I already have one inside my current hub.

[@RydenDirty]

@@coltoneberly you definitely need the new one for it to work. The old bushing is slightly longer and won't fit

[@jamesearle5331]

Is this conversion compatible with 11 speed?

[@RydenDirty]

Not sure to be honest

[@mrfrogg46able]

dt swiss hub lock ring removal nut. 22.00 bux on ebay

[@RydenDirty]

Ya I saw it on there but it was in china.

[@mrfrogg46able]

the tool on ebay(dtswiss)is 30 bux

[@RydenDirty]

Problem is I would only use it once.

[@troymortimer3487]

i was watching this until I noticed you wearing pitviper glasses

[@RydenDirty]

What's the matter you don't like pit vipers?

[@martinv8444]

Can i do it on my x1900 thanks

[@martinv8444]

Horay from japan

[@RydenDirty]

I believe so cause that wheel should have a 370 hub👍

[@cesarluna5696]

Hi, that will fit a 12 speed GX cassette??

[@RydenDirty]

Yes mine is a 12 speed Eagle Sram

[@cesarluna5696]

@@RydenDirty thanks a lot you the best

[@RydenDirty]

@@cesarluna5696 I got you 😎👊

[@sama9281]

Hey dude. I’m thinking of doing the same as I have an old non boost dt 240 ratchet driver to put into the 370. Called DT SWISS and they recommended against it as they said the driver doesn’t seal correctly and will blow out in a month or so. Can I ask, have you had issues with it sealing correctly?

[@RydenDirty]

So far mine has been fine 👍

[@Redzuano]

@@RydenDirty Just to add, are you using the dt240 seal or still using the old pawl system seal ?

[@RydenDirty]

@@Redzuano I ended up getting the new seal

[@Redzuano]

@@RydenDirty Good to know. By using the DT240 cassette seal, how is it holding up ?

[@monty808]

@@Redzuano I'm doing this conversion and the 240 seal doesn't fit properly in the 370 hub. The 240 seal is press fit with a tool into a 240 hub but on the 370 hub it fits loosely in the hub. The bore on the 370 hub is larger than the o.d. of the 240 seal. I've linked a video below at the 11:16 mark you can see how the seal is supposed to sit in a 240 or ratchet style hub. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4jHlmWdpK5medU

[@andrewm6192]

How much did it cost you in the end to convert the hub?

[@RydenDirty]

When I did it over a year ago it was about $168. That was after the new gasket and labor

[@RitzCaraldo]

Anyone know where I can get the parts for this in Canada?

[@RydenDirty]

I'm not sure to be honest but see if you can get them from the links below.

[@v8pilot]

Hey - you forgot to pay Zach or, if he did not want payment, to leave a few bucks for his coffee club.

[@RydenDirty]

I actually did pay him off camera.

[@vinceable3016]

What is the tool called?

[@RydenDirty]

It's in the description 🤙

[@ikharl328]

Mann ill so this to my 370 hub.

[@RydenDirty]

Super easy to do 🤙

[@ikharl328]

Would u say its worth it than buying a complete hub?! Comparable to 240s or 350s?

[@RydenDirty]

@@ikharl328 just depends on cost in my opinion. If it costs you the same either way I would buy the hub and re lace the wheel. If not buy the parts instead. 🤙

[@ikharl328]

Solid reviews!! Make more

[@RydenDirty]

@@ikharl328 thanks mang will do🤟

[@SheplongTV]

🧔🤙 new here

[@RydenDirty]

welcome to the party my friend👍😁

[@alpinesociety2142]

I work at a shop.. this is not a $150 conversion... 1. Freehub body: $150+ 2. Spring gear kit: $160ish 3. The inner engagement ring : cant remember but let's say 40 bones.. I looked at this as an option but yah was over 300 bucks to convert but then again I'm canadian so that's like pesos to the usd

[@RydenDirty]

Well the link to all the parts I bought are down below so not sure what to tell ya. Maybe Canada charges more 🤷‍♂️

[@RydenDirty]

I just priced it again on ebay for all the parts new. And it has gone up. Now its $165

[@Iseekoutthetrails]

nice to know, probably never do this lol

[@RydenDirty]

Its pretty easy

[@GrEgO169]

well this is more than 150$ if you do not have a friend with specifics tools

[@RydenDirty]

I didnt have a friend with tools. I took it to the bike shop and I payed for it. They didn't charge me much. But it depends on the shop I guess

[@dragrace1989]

Just parts alone are almost $250 retail price today. Maybe $150 if you already had the 54t star ratchet??

[@drewsenthused6079]

More grease.

[@RydenDirty]

Really?

[@drewsenthused6079]

@@RydenDirty I do, it keeps the sound down a bit

[@RydenDirty]

@@drewsenthused6079 ahhh makes sense

[@jamesgrows4591]

How to take to a bike shop. Waste of time

[@RydenDirty]

Neat