Dumbbell Romanian (RDL) Deadlift |TECHNIQUE for Beginners

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Mike | J2FIT Strength & Conditioning

Mike | J2FIT Strength & Conditioning

4 жыл бұрын

In this video I demonstrate how to perform the dumbbell Romanian deadlift (RDL). This video is geared for beginners and advanced lifters alike.
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@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 Жыл бұрын
No bullshit, just over a minute. Nice clear description. Great stuff.
@benkindlon9254
@benkindlon9254 2 ай бұрын
I was really hoping for a 15 minute history lesson on top of this lol
@incrediesta
@incrediesta Жыл бұрын
Honestly love these! Have struggled with barbell traditional deadlifts, sumos, RDLs etc and never felt comfortable doing any of them because of my super long femurs but RDLs with dumbbells are amazing because I can control where the dumbbells travel without making my lower back uncomfortable or scraping my knees. Perfect for people with long femurs to make progress consistently 👌
@sheldonfrancis25
@sheldonfrancis25 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Clear, concise and expertly demonstrated. 👍🏾💯💪🏾
@lisamarcano3585
@lisamarcano3585 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very clear demonstration.
@theinfinitevic9017
@theinfinitevic9017 Жыл бұрын
Simple and concise. 👏
@raulsaavedra709
@raulsaavedra709 9 ай бұрын
Great instruction! And must comment, the level of quiet and silence in that gym environment is remarkable in this recording
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
private gym, shot when nobody was there.. I also had a mic on. Thank you for noticing lol.
@tyrosel2543
@tyrosel2543 4 ай бұрын
This was a sleek video. Straight to the point. Thanks pal!!
@j2fit
@j2fit 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Glad you enjoyed, more where that came from!
@andrealee.b
@andrealee.b 6 ай бұрын
This was really helpful! I found myself using my back muscles more than my hamstrings . Thank you!
@j2fit
@j2fit 6 ай бұрын
really glad to help! I also posted another video on dumbbell RDL variations you can try too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ramUmpRtbKt1btE
@seanwickham8905
@seanwickham8905 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see Haley Joel Osment hitting the weight room.
@darkblaze373
@darkblaze373 2 жыл бұрын
Who?
@BrotherMalMusic
@BrotherMalMusic Жыл бұрын
@@darkblaze373 The actor who played the kid in _The Sixth Sense,_ _Forest Gump,_ _A.I. Artificial Intelligence,_ _Pay it Forward,_ & the voice of Sora in the _Kingdom Hearts_ video game series.
@darkblaze373
@darkblaze373 Жыл бұрын
@@BrotherMalMusic but it’s not him
@BrotherMalMusic
@BrotherMalMusic Жыл бұрын
@@darkblaze373 Yeah, it’s a joke.. he’s just saying the guy resembles Haley Joel Osment.
@adzo147
@adzo147 Жыл бұрын
Osmont my favourite one fr💯
@alexwyne814
@alexwyne814 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your guidance. You're the savior for someone who can't afford to train in gym like me.
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
you are welcome
@sonic24freak49
@sonic24freak49 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I’ve been afraid of trying the RDL because I feel like my form is horrid and this helped me be more flexible with it and actually feel my hamstrings and not my lower back a ton for once. 🎉
@j2fit
@j2fit 5 ай бұрын
That’s great to hear. If you have access to a lying hamstring curl machine, that’s also a gray way to get a ton of hamstring growth with minimal chance of lower back . I like doing 2-3 warm up set of 10-15, and then 2-3 hard sets of 8-10.. then go into RDL
@AhmedMostafa-so2jp
@AhmedMostafa-so2jp 19 күн бұрын
This is so helpful thanks, My form wasn't correct yesterday I think my back wasn't straight enough so I had a back injury
@robertmunoz7162
@robertmunoz7162 6 ай бұрын
Great video! I watched it a few times and finally felt comfortable doing these with correct form. Thank you
@j2fit
@j2fit 5 ай бұрын
Great to hear! Lmk if any other videos need help with, and o appreciate your support and comments on other vids too! So thank you! And welcome to the channel!!
@robertmunoz7162
@robertmunoz7162 3 ай бұрын
​@@j2fitthank you bro. Been two months since I've watched this and it changed my workouts completely
@gersonbatres5826
@gersonbatres5826 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@jacobjames1171
@jacobjames1171 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@quantumxfluxmd6821
@quantumxfluxmd6821 2 ай бұрын
The knees back was the best tip. I immediately felt it
@Kriakye2435
@Kriakye2435 2 ай бұрын
Very helpful ty
@simspropst155
@simspropst155 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@tankeansang3229
@tankeansang3229 8 ай бұрын
Very educational video, thanks for sharing
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
you are welcome
@emmetblanchette6496
@emmetblanchette6496 2 жыл бұрын
great vid
@beansmeup
@beansmeup 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
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@user-hj1wp1dt2g 4 күн бұрын
thank you
@tro2718
@tro2718 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@timo1934
@timo1934 Жыл бұрын
Thx buddy
@davidsantacruz1233
@davidsantacruz1233 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this
@totalbodystrengthclub1795
@totalbodystrengthclub1795 2 жыл бұрын
My guy is a beast and always was a beast
@j2fit
@j2fit Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it bro!
@scottmthw
@scottmthw 11 ай бұрын
Nice af
@MyOrangeString
@MyOrangeString 2 ай бұрын
Would love to see demonstration with heavier dumbbells. Especially how to handle safely.
@joseph6160
@joseph6160 7 ай бұрын
Nice one
@j2fit
@j2fit 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! And thanks for commenting!
@rajveersekhon5606
@rajveersekhon5606 8 ай бұрын
May all become strong and healthy
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
agree
@cheez7519
@cheez7519 3 жыл бұрын
Does the RDL stretch the hamstrings? because mine are already overstretched and im trying to strengthen team , good video btw.
@TheDuffcat
@TheDuffcat 3 жыл бұрын
It strengthens them in a lengthened position. It feels like a stretch if done right but you will be using them and the glutes to pull the weight up
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 жыл бұрын
stretch and load, thats muscle building 101. and the more trained muscle you have, the more stability you can have.. which is what you need
@outlawreader
@outlawreader 6 ай бұрын
and thanks again xD
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
you are welcome!
@birchy446
@birchy446 9 ай бұрын
Yeah we workin
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
yesssir
@caranasser3710
@caranasser3710 Жыл бұрын
These just never feel right. My back is always sore the next day! Help! I really want defined hamstrings and only have dumbbells to work with. Suggestions?
@EddyMakes
@EddyMakes 2 жыл бұрын
0:28 The workout starts (3×12)
@nightmarecenhic3988
@nightmarecenhic3988 2 жыл бұрын
dont do 3x12. just do 4 sets till failure. what helped me get to failure is music. music distracts me from counting
@machinescapes
@machinescapes 2 жыл бұрын
^^^
@zawarudo8023
@zawarudo8023 Жыл бұрын
@@nightmarecenhic3988 u should still count so u can track ur workouts and progress
@yo18momas
@yo18momas Жыл бұрын
@@zawarudo8023 I only start counting once I start to feel it burning, then I count up to 8
@Heinrich.Himmler
@Heinrich.Himmler Жыл бұрын
@@yo18momas And some people wonder why they get injured...
@steamcarrier
@steamcarrier 2 жыл бұрын
Love how a “trainer” told me how to do RDL and said keep your legs straight, but yet watch all of these videos and they have slight bent knees and I was doing them correctly the whole time.. -.-
@beng5009
@beng5009 2 жыл бұрын
bend your butt, dont bend your knees forward
@Brannny88
@Brannny88 2 жыл бұрын
Try to keep legs straight as long as possible but then as you get lower towards the bottom of shin your leg would bend automatically Ann’s you’ll feel a pull in hamstring. Avoid bending knee early. Uf your doung ot loke that your sweet
@gmcmim1
@gmcmim1 2 жыл бұрын
Echo, the trick is to bend the rump first. Then as you go down and feeling the stretch of the hamstrings bend the knees as well. But don't bring them forward like you're doing a squat. If you feel no stretch in the hamstrings you're doing it wrong. That's the best way to describe it. It's called a deadlift for a reason. Anyone saying keep your knees straight as possible doesn't know what they're talking about. The knees need to be bent to support you in coming back up. Don't want to strain the back. Let's put it this way when people are doing barbell lifts they squat butt first then bend the knees as well then use them to come right back up. Now those are full bends of the knee. With dead lifts it's a slight bend. I really hope you understand.
@juhgfdsapiyhhnnxc3517
@juhgfdsapiyhhnnxc3517 Жыл бұрын
There is straight legged dead’s though. That’s usually a barbell. I still bend the knees. Total straight feels bad. Get a bar and put 185 and go slow and feel the stretch.
@asadianbelifont3875
@asadianbelifont3875 Жыл бұрын
If you don't have the mild bend in the knees you won't get any glute activation, and this exercise builds glutes like nothing fucking out there lol.
@Dule-my1yc
@Dule-my1yc Жыл бұрын
Is it normal for the hamstring area to hurt the next day? I did the same exercise but I worried that I didn't bend my knees as much
@Abdullah-cj2mh
@Abdullah-cj2mh Жыл бұрын
That probably means you did it right. The hamstrings and glutes would get sore since that’s what this exercise targets.
@haydnneese629
@haydnneese629 Жыл бұрын
yes, your muscles are sore from using them.
@jared7611
@jared7611 2 жыл бұрын
Does your back have to be perfectly parallel with the floor?
@winnygpooh5003
@winnygpooh5003 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure just go all the way until your hips can't go further then proceed to pull upwards
@siiiuu777
@siiiuu777 Жыл бұрын
dont fking bend the back, thats it. Dont listen to bs and you will live longer...
@mertege5719
@mertege5719 2 жыл бұрын
Hey ive been having finger injuries/problems while doing rdl/regular deadlifts. What do you think the problem is?
@Bob-nb5dc
@Bob-nb5dc 2 жыл бұрын
u should prolly train ur forearm, im no expert tho, just guessing
@j2fit
@j2fit 2 жыл бұрын
no idea. never had finger issues. if its grip related (hard to hold on), train grip more. if you are having finger pain and injuries, worth getting that checked out.
@abbasraza4639
@abbasraza4639 2 жыл бұрын
Increase forearm strength
@____________838
@____________838 2 жыл бұрын
The RDL should increase forearm/hand strength, much like a farmers carry…
@costanzo6770
@costanzo6770 Жыл бұрын
I've had the same, you just need to rest and wait for your fingers to heal, not much else
@ttv.recklesssgg.9065
@ttv.recklesssgg.9065 Жыл бұрын
I need help with keeping my back striaght
@LiljamezZz
@LiljamezZz Жыл бұрын
i jus realized i was trying to squat with the dumbells in front of me instead of deadlifting 💀
@bean_machine96
@bean_machine96 2 жыл бұрын
If I feel it in my lower back does that mean I have weak glutes/hips?
@j2fit
@j2fit 2 жыл бұрын
or you are not keeping back straight. or you are not focusing on contracting glutes at top
@audreyshakara6928
@audreyshakara6928 2 жыл бұрын
i fractured my spine a few years back & feel a lot of tension/pain building up during this movement using a barbell. do you have any tips or that?
@Tazy50
@Tazy50 2 жыл бұрын
do cable pull-through instead
@mohammedqasim7147
@mohammedqasim7147 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah don't do it. If you got back problems it's deadlifts are very taxing on the spine and back
@j2fit
@j2fit Жыл бұрын
That’s a very individual question and given your injury history I can’t give you a general answer without knowing the whole scope. Sorry
@j2fit
@j2fit Жыл бұрын
If your goal is to build hamstring and glutes, try seated and lying machine curls, hip raises, and lunges
@koennieboy5593
@koennieboy5593 Жыл бұрын
Does this both train and stretch the hamstring? Please let me know
@MsActress08
@MsActress08 Жыл бұрын
A stiff deadlift would be ideal, less bend in the knees would give you a good stretch of your hamstrings
@AhmedTheSavage
@AhmedTheSavage 2 жыл бұрын
After I do it, I feel 2 bumps above my butt in my lower back when walking. Am I doing something wrong.
@andrewmacy9035
@andrewmacy9035 2 жыл бұрын
I'd make sure to stretch this area and especially your glutes more prior. The bump feelings are most likely due to your muscles being tight.
@nadapenny8592
@nadapenny8592 2 жыл бұрын
More potassium and more water! Eat one or two apples on days you work out, and hydrate before working out - I'm not saying a whole gallon, but drink plenty more water than you normally would. Also when you stretch, consciously engage your glutes. It sounds like you're getting a muscle "knot", possibly resulting from uneven distribution of the electrochemical signals that contract and relax muscles. All three of those over the course of a week or two should help.
@Jobson85
@Jobson85 7 ай бұрын
How should i choose the correct weight on this exercises cause obviously the weight on barbell deadlift doesn't give any direction to that?
@j2fit
@j2fit 7 ай бұрын
Choose a weight that is challenging for 10-15 reps (I’d train in that rep range). If you don’t have heavy enough DB, then I would choose a barbell RDL to get adequate loading (or train 20-30 reps, but if weight is still to light w that high rep range.. then you need heavier weights. That is a limitation of DBS
@o6berkan358
@o6berkan358 2 жыл бұрын
My lower back hurt insanely. Tips how to decrease the pain?
@j2fit
@j2fit 2 жыл бұрын
make sure you are using your hamstrings and glutes, rather than over extending spine at top. Review the hip thrust video too
@jasalavric2447
@jasalavric2447 Жыл бұрын
How does treching the musscle make it stronger? I can strech the hamstings all day and still and not reach musscle faliure
@j2fit
@j2fit Жыл бұрын
Stretching doesn’t make it stronger, but adding load and training in the full range of motion creates a lot of tension and stress, which grows the muscle.
@jorde1516
@jorde1516 3 ай бұрын
No one ever mentions to squeez your glutes before anything and don't stop squeezing through the movement.
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
difficult to squeeze your glutes (contract them, shorten the muscle fibers) when you are lowing the load (muscles are being lengthened). I agree with the focus here, just be sure to control the load throughout.
@ayushthasale4748
@ayushthasale4748 Жыл бұрын
I have Anterior Pelvic Tilt can i still do this? Like idk if i can keep my back straight if i have Anterior Pelvic Tilt also I've Belly Fat
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
so fix the anterior tilt. good that and youll get good videos
@ksewell2022
@ksewell2022 2 жыл бұрын
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@louie8425
@louie8425 2 жыл бұрын
He loves you too
@gabepaladin
@gabepaladin Жыл бұрын
You too!
@maskup_
@maskup_ Жыл бұрын
💀
@user-os7in6rp2s
@user-os7in6rp2s Жыл бұрын
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@unknownbytes2874 Жыл бұрын
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@talha1753
@talha1753 Жыл бұрын
Dear I want to know which position foot should be in rdl
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
like the video, hip width, toes forward or slightly slightly turned out
@mcpartridgeboy
@mcpartridgeboy 2 жыл бұрын
i cant do it because my legs are very strong and my forearms give way before my glutes and hamstrings, what can i do ?
@hannahnunley6308
@hannahnunley6308 2 жыл бұрын
Lifting straps!!
@mcpartridgeboy
@mcpartridgeboy 2 жыл бұрын
@@hannahnunley6308 They only helped slightly , and in some ways it was even harder because i couldnt dump the weights after i was done.
@mr.highminded5357
@mr.highminded5357 2 жыл бұрын
Just focus on your grip strength for a while, its not rocket science. Dead hangs and farmer carries can do wonders for your grip strength.
@j2fit
@j2fit Жыл бұрын
Use wrist straps
@HuggyWuggy91
@HuggyWuggy91 3 ай бұрын
In Romanian deadlift what is the difference between the old deadlift? What muscle will be target?
@JoeSmith-ig3pr
@JoeSmith-ig3pr 3 ай бұрын
Hamstrings. These work better for me.kzbin.infoiQVLxHgqsv8?feature=share
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
RDL is more hamstring biases, less knee bend (shins stay vertical at bottom of movement, you should feel nasty stretch in hamstrings). Deadlift, while it also trains hamstrings, allows knees to bend more (shins slightly more forward at bottom), feel little quad loading in bottom position. i like RDL for building bigger hamstrings, but Ill also add deadlifts too (more glutes i feel)
@HuggyWuggy91
@HuggyWuggy91 3 ай бұрын
@@j2fit thank you sir, 👍
@koichikun1145
@koichikun1145 Жыл бұрын
I tried it but I ended up with extreme back pain, any help?
@tinocabral4201
@tinocabral4201 4 ай бұрын
Should I lock out knees when doing this?
@j2fit
@j2fit 4 ай бұрын
No Soft pain in the knees, your shin should be perpendicular to floor. If you don’t feel the hamstrings and keep your back, arched Moore and straighten your knees a little more but don’t lock them out.
@kabirghai8709
@kabirghai8709 Жыл бұрын
My hamstrings are really tight. Will this help loosen them?
@j2fit
@j2fit Жыл бұрын
If you slowly train them in a wider range of motion, along with stretching exercises, yes
@CarnivoreConservative
@CarnivoreConservative Жыл бұрын
Boy am I out of shape. I did 3 sets of 10 with 40 lb weights and my ass is sore. I'm gonna be dying tomorrow 😅
@krisztianberekmeri3623
@krisztianberekmeri3623 Жыл бұрын
Isnt that the Stiff Legged Deadlift?
@sulezraz
@sulezraz Жыл бұрын
0:26
@Luketaylor9729
@Luketaylor9729 3 ай бұрын
What is the difference between a Dumbbell Deadlift and this Romanian one? I've seen so many videos and tutorials and I honestly can't tell the difference
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
RDL and deadlift are two differnet movemetns. the dumbbell is the implement. A deadlift you bend knees more, RDL you have less knee bend and bias the movement to use more hamstrings. So, you can have a dumbbell deadlift vs dumbbell rdl. the rdl has less knee bend, more emphasis on hamstrings and glutes, where was deadlift the knees bend slightly more (how much.. maybe shins can more forward past vertical some in bottom). RDL i generally like to keep my shins vertical at the bottom (full stretched position), so i think bout pulling knees back as I lower, bend at the hips. knees stay above ankles.
@gliterott
@gliterott Жыл бұрын
How much weight would you recommend for beginners
@j2fit
@j2fit Жыл бұрын
It’s all relative. As heavy as you can with prefect form and slowly lowering weights 3-4 seconds.
@gliterott
@gliterott Жыл бұрын
@@j2fit alright thank you, I've been doing it like that for a few days It's very efficient
@Amanda-km2to
@Amanda-km2to 10 ай бұрын
I never feel it in my hamstrings but in my glutes
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
yes I would say more glutes than hamstrings. Or try and keep knees less bent
@Rosa-vz9ml
@Rosa-vz9ml 2 жыл бұрын
How much weight should i start with?
@woodfamily5229
@woodfamily5229 2 жыл бұрын
Try a weight that you can do up to 15 reps with while maintaining PROPER form.
@risialdyh9562
@risialdyh9562 2 жыл бұрын
Are you supposed to feel it in the lower back
@j2fit
@j2fit 2 жыл бұрын
might feel it, but think about keeping lower back straight, push hips back.
@nailajackson317
@nailajackson317 2 жыл бұрын
@@j2fit how to breath when doing this exercise?
@uniqueurl
@uniqueurl 16 күн бұрын
You failed to explain the posture. I am always getting rounded back
@creamcheese7845
@creamcheese7845 Жыл бұрын
Would using heavy be ideal or light
@asadianbelifont3875
@asadianbelifont3875 Жыл бұрын
Form is more important with this that anything so always start light. If you do these wrong you fuck up your lower back while not getting glute activation. I worked my way up to 75lb dumbells after about a year. I started with 25s and I was sore ass shit for a couple months. Use progressive overload but make sure form is on point
@XXTacoBellLovaXX
@XXTacoBellLovaXX 2 жыл бұрын
will this work with only one dumbell
@j2fit
@j2fit 2 жыл бұрын
yup, if its heavy enough
@AP-qe2ki
@AP-qe2ki 2 жыл бұрын
@@j2fit how heavy should the dumbbells be?
@eliangarcia2486
@eliangarcia2486 2 жыл бұрын
I mostly feel it in my upper calf what am I doing wrong?
@j2fit
@j2fit Жыл бұрын
Keep your knees back more. Might just have tight calves TBH. Keep going
@seomonealive8586
@seomonealive8586 2 жыл бұрын
i keep bending m'y knees
@j2fit
@j2fit 2 жыл бұрын
slight bend is fine. keep knees over ankles, but not in front
@duonganhquan6273
@duonganhquan6273 Жыл бұрын
Don't squeeze the glutes at the top. You want to keep tension in your hamstring the whole time. Glutes activate the most at the bottom range, not the top.
@Boutiki
@Boutiki 11 ай бұрын
I thrust when go back up, is that what you mean?
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
this is not correct.
@duonganhquan6273
@duonganhquan6273 3 ай бұрын
Squeezing at the top does nothing except taking the tension away from the hamstring and for some people, potentially cueing them to over-extend their back. The weight does not create any resistance here.
@shamarr7459
@shamarr7459 Жыл бұрын
All I feel is lower back on this
@j2fit
@j2fit Жыл бұрын
Arch back more, and go slower on way down
@communismcanfixit3732
@communismcanfixit3732 9 ай бұрын
I feel insecure as hell doing this in the gym
@communismcanfixit3732
@communismcanfixit3732 9 ай бұрын
Im a guy
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
Do you wanna talk about it? That seems like a bigger issue.
@communismcanfixit3732
@communismcanfixit3732 3 ай бұрын
@@j2fit Nah, I just do them at home
@Hagg-o-tron
@Hagg-o-tron 9 ай бұрын
This is a dangerous video. If you can't touch your toes with a flat palm you need to concentrate on slowly stretching the tendons and ligaments in your legs. The Romanian lift is a great exercise, but this instructor is putting all of his torque force into his lower back
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
false. lol. show me the proof.
@deathab0ve
@deathab0ve 8 ай бұрын
yea, have no clue at all how your back is straight. I get a hunch 100% of the time,
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
try doing without weight first, lean how to bend at the hips and control the lower back. If you can do this without weight, add weight and only go as heavy as you can without losing back position. if you cant do it without weight properly, then try holding a plate with both arms (hug the plate) and do this movement to learn how to hinge.
@deathab0ve
@deathab0ve 3 ай бұрын
@@j2fit thanks, I have actually gotten the hand of it since this. But the advice is still appreciated.
@citizen3000
@citizen3000 Жыл бұрын
Well this is easy on the eyes, ain’t it?
@jackdiamond2827
@jackdiamond2827 3 ай бұрын
All my coach does is program these month after month I'm sick of these things 😅😅😅😅
@j2fit
@j2fit 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been training consistently for over two decades, and RDL with dumbbells and Barbell still a staple in my training
@chunkycheese6745
@chunkycheese6745 Жыл бұрын
Top G Andrew Tate
@cgfischer
@cgfischer Ай бұрын
I’ve been trying this for too long but never feel any tension in my legs. Always feel lower back and it’s very uncomfortable 🫠😔
@reiko1273
@reiko1273 2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@mayonico
@mayonico 8 ай бұрын
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