Dumbledore Got It WRONG: The REAL History of the Deathly Hallows REVEALED - Harry Potter Theory

[@dragonsboon2316]

I heard that the brothers were experts on thestrals. That the stone was made from an organ of a thestral, the cloak from one’s hide and the wand with its hair as a core.

[@Zero_Reaper13]

I like this theory, it would also give creedance to the personification of death in the story as one can only see the thestrals if they have witnessed death.

[@merf90]

Stone is the eye of the thestral I heard

[@bobfg3130]

They are.

[@bobfg3130]

​@@merf90 Not really.

[@michaelmaki6857]

I always thought it was pretty obvious that the Veil was the Bridge the brothers built and its current state is Death shutting the bridge back to its one-way state

[@leonorakristinerozalinamll9473]

Beedle the Bard COULD actually be blood related to one of the brothers from his mother's side of the family that no one knows about and the story of his ancestors(The Peverell brothers) could have been, passed down to him when he lived. Then he got inspired to share the story with the world.

[@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi]

would more likely be a gaunt thus cadmus connection............the potters were all about hiding in plain sight and not telling the family secrets

[@leonorakristinerozalinamll9473]

@@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi Yeah that make sense. The Potters did never brag about their family history (Not what I know of). Plus I don't think Antioch Peverell managed to get children before he was murded. So Cadmus could in fact be the best and only option.

[@dougr.2398]

@@leonorakristinerozalinamll9473murded?

[@GaiusMarius65]

Regarding the 300 year gap between when the brothers lived to when Beedle wrote the story. Consider that Homer lived in the 8th century BC and the Trojan War was thought to have occurred around the 12th century BC. So the idea that a writer may have taken earlier works that are no longer available as a basis for their work that managed to survive the centuries to the present day is not without precedent.

[@LordWyatt]

And in both time periods they were considered dark ages. The former after the Bronze Age collapse, and the latter after the fall of the Roman Empire (and Carolingian Dynasty’s Fall after that)

[@Rendous]

And if there's one thing we know about the Dark Ages, it's that a lot of knowledge and, at the time, well known facts were frequently lost, sometimes forever, which could shed light on the mystery of such things.

[@StarlasAiko]

Three centuries is also enough time for any copyright claim to expire and stories to enter public domain, particularely since back then, Disney had not yet started to lobby the government to constantly increase the expiration time on copyright.

[@dougr.2398]

@@StarlasAikoDisney wasn’t three centuries ago

[@StarlasAiko]

@@dougr.2398 That is exactly what I said. Disney was not there to lobby the government about copyright deadlines.

[@gamezx]

When it comes to the elder wand, i have a personal theory which i think explains the true reason behind its unusual power. I do believe that the whole death story is just a fairy tale and the hallows were created by the brothers, but why is the elder wand seemingly on a level of magic way above any other wand? Well this is because i believe it to be a wand attuned not to magic, but to ancient magic We know from hogwarts legacy that ancient magic is a far rarer form of magic, appearing in only like 1 or 2 people every few 100 years, but that it too is also on a level of power above any other kind of magic and capable of things normal magic just cant do. Olivander has stated that finding a tree with the spark of magic suitable for wand wood is much like with people, in a random group of trees only a small percentage of them would have the spark. Well in much the same way it stands to reason then that every 100 years or so you'd get a tree that instead has ancient magic flowing through it This i believe is the real secret of the elder wand, if you assume the peverell brothers crafted the wand and it was from an elderberry tree that just happened to be attuned to ancient magic instead of regular magic, then the wand's power suddenly makes perfect sense. This is also why no one has been able to recreate the wand since, because you'd need an ancient magic tree which would only happen every few centuries, you could spend lifetimes searching and never coming close to finding one

[@alexhulea2735]

Here's an additional thing to consider: what if the elder wand gets stronger BECAUSE of betrayal and violence? A bonded wielder loses some magical power when losing the wand, and the wand gets stronger with every wielder that loses it. Or it takes magical power from everyone it defeats. Over time, the elder wand gets a reputation. No one can make another not only because the knowledge is lost, but also because reverse engineering the elder wand would destroy it, and no one wants to make another magic stealing wand?

[@ranges787]

well if that’s true and the wand is truly from a ancient magic tree why is there just one? i mean 1 tree can provide more wands than olivander has in his store haha

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

@@ranges787 I suspect, that's because, you need both a tree attuned with ancient magic, a threstal attuned with ancient magic and a wizard with ancient magic all at the same time for it. Taking the fact that only 1 such wizard, 1 such tree and 1 such a threstal will appear in a century, all of them three appearing together at one time and meeting in one location easily gives 1 in 1million (100X100X100) probability. That means, it's not just about ancient magic, but different things with ancient magic occuring all at once and gathering in one place. By this theory, last time such could happen was stone ages.

[@Princess_Celestia_]

Trees can live for hundreds or even thousands of years depending on the species and environmental factors. So the odds of finding an "ancient magic tree" is far more likely then finding someone who can wield ancient magic.

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

@@Princess_Celestia_ Good point.

[@josecuestas7246]

Regarding the Elder wand, i read that many wandmakers tried to reverse engineer it, but they never managed to duplicate the original Elder wand.

[@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi]

yet if your read fanfics there are a zillion just like it specially made for harry and have focusing crystals which is not a thing at all in canon.

[@christophdewarenne9309]

​@@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi... Focusing... Crystals?! Since when did Wands become Lightsabers?!

[@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi]

@@christophdewarenne9309 LOL...that is nothing....there are also fanfics where there are 3 cores in one wand which is also made of 2 or more woods. Which is not a thing in canon. Admittedly I am a fanfic juncky but to read the good ones you have to wade through the 90% of crap out there

[@MavenWalsh]

@@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi Not yet. I bet if a film maker is allowed to make a movie that involves a wand with 3 cores Rowling would make it canon. She's out of ideas. That's why she never wrote another story set in the HP universe. That is, IF she truly is the original author. She has to be the first author I've heard of that wrote ONE series about an imaginary world and then quit.

[@vrillionaire88]

​@MavenWalsh her original ideas are repackaged occultism, just like most popular fiction.

[@darianhobo8838]

I like the super Carlin brother one about the thestral connection. Three brothers on a road and the middle brothers wife is killed. Elder brother makes a thestral core wand, middle brother uses the magic of thestral know if you seen death (in conjunction with arch) to see her, and youngest makes a cloak using thestral invisibility magic to make a cloak hid you from anyone not seeing the wearers death.

[@Timberwolf69]

Back in these olden times, being able to write and read wasn't as common as it is today, even in the wizarding community.. Many stories made their way through history from mouth to ear over many generations until someone that was able to decided to write them down. Even in true stories, embellishments would creep in, disguising the origins more and more.

[@StarlasAiko]

It was more common than we like to believe. In medieval times illiteracy didn't mean unable to read and write, it meant unable to read and write Latin. People were still able to read and write in their own native language.

[@Timberwolf69]

@@StarlasAiko That would better be true.

[@cathygrandstaff1957]

I think the Death version of the story is more or less true, but leaves stuff out. I think the true story is that the three brothers created a portal into the land of the dead. The river in the story represents the River Styx, the border between the land of the living and the land of the dead, Hades, and the “bridge” the brothers create is this portal. I believe we actually see this “bridge” in book 6, the mysterious veil in the depths of the Ministry that Sirius falls into and that is very explicitly hinted to be linked to death. I think perhaps the wizards had different reasons for doing so, with the eldest one doing so just to see if it can be done, the middle because he wants to revive his lover and the youngest because he cares about the older two. I think they do meet Death who gives them the Hallows as a bribe to get them to leave, although it could be they meet no one but are able to retrieve materials not found on Earth which are used to create the Hallows. In any event I think once they leave Death fortifies the breach to prevent any more incursions into his domain. I do think the Hollows are cursed to kill those that use them, with the exception of the invisibility cloak either because of the youngest brother’s wish or because Death took pity on the one brother who didn’t really want to be there. Alternatively Death could have given them the Hallows as payment for destroying the Veil from their side and only the youngest brother tried to honor the bargain so only the Invisibility Cloak was spared from the curse. Or not, one of the things people have noted is that while the Invisibility Cloak protects its owner and eventually their child when it’s passed on it seems to ensure each generation of Harry’s family only has one surviving child until Harry himself becomes Master of Death.

[@alexkuhn5188]

Considering Hades is the most reasonable member of the Greek Pantheon then him making a deal with the brothers wouldn’t be out of character for him as he has done so before.

[@AfroMocha]

I like this theory, however I’d like to put a little twist on it. The Carlton Brothers have a theory out there that the brothers of the tale created other items that led to the deathly hallows. In their theory, the brothers of the tail created the pensive, the veil and the ministry and the time turners. These three items were created in the study of preventing death and extending life. I believe the time Turner was invented so that that brother could try and save his wife that died. And the wife that died I don’t think it was his wife. I think they were trying to bring back their mother. I believe the time Turner was possibly invented first or second after the pensive, but the veil is actually their last creation. They wouldn’t be on the veil to try and find their mother and I don’t think they encountered death per se, but I think they encountered the materials and items needed to create the deathly hallows. They found materials from an entirely different plane of existence that should not be in the living world and took them back. Whether it was materials or just knowledge, they learned a lot from the veil to create the deathly hallows .

[@MarkTuson]

One thing mentioned by Rowling in the Tales of Beedle the Bard is that the Hallows (or the stories? It's been a while) come from the *Early* Middle Ages. That's not the eleventh or tenth century, it's the fifth or sixth. Let's put that on the table and pick it up later. Beedle the Bard is sort of a wizarding version of Chaucer - we know this. But with the content of the stories, he's more like the Brothers Grimm. This makes it likely that he didn't write these stories, he collected them and re-presented them. This would be why the stories' are presented in "Ancient Runes" (almost certainly referring to Old Norse written with the Elder Futhark). Just bear in mind that Norse was spoken briefly in parts of England between the eighth and tenth centuries, but never supplanted English and was only spoken in the local regions with Viking populations. Beedle's own work would have been in Middle or Early Modern English if he was writing in the fifteenth century. I'm assuming at this point that "Ancient Runes" is just a classical language in the wizarding world, like how Latin and Greek are the main classical languages in the real world. Now with the way semifictional stories work, people do attach earlier legends to later people as well as legends later springing up around earlier people. Add to this that the Tale of the Three Brothers resembles the old "Devil's Bridge" folk tale, common to all places where ancient unexplained bridges are, and we've got the possibility of an ancient folk tale which has somehow become associated with these three brothers from much later. Sort of similar to how Arthurian legend became associated with the Merlin cycle centuries after those two sets of stories came about (originally separately, and with a full century between them). Now let's pick up the Early Middle Ages bit again. Now we've got three brothers in the sixth century, working in a time where they don't have to hide from muggles and with no Ministry to outlaw certain types of experimentation. Highly intelligent and competant, they create these artefacts, and they themselves create the story of having taken them from Death, distorting the Devil's Bridge story to their own purpose so they don't have to answer questions about the artefacts or so people keep away from them. Later on a seminal version of the Tale of the Three Brothers crops up, and by the eleventh century is associated with the Peverells (maybe they have taken the artefacts, or maybe they inherited them - doesn't matter), and this association is indelible, resulting in Beedle writing the story as Rowling relates. The one thing which cannot be ignored is that Rowling is highly unreliable as regards numbers - by her own admission. She has made massive mistakes throughout her career. For instance, in Philosopher's Stone, Nicholas Flamel "recently celebrated his 665th birthday" according to a book which was maybe a century old. Flamel was born in 1330. PS happened in 1991. Flamel would have been 661 when Harry Potter started school. He'd have been around 500-550 when that book was written. Rowling has also written that Merlin went to Hogwarts (and was sorted into Slytherin). Except Hogwarts was established in the tenth century (while its architecture is post-Norman, fourteenth century at least) and the IRL Merlin mythos appears in the fifth century. She's also been highly inconsistent with the age of McGonagall, saying she's been teaching for 39 years in Order of the Phenix 1995 but then having her as a teacher in a flackback to ~1903 in Crimes of Grindelwald. So basically, when Rowling starts talking about years and dates, she can be safely ignored.

[@eamonlyons8069]

I like this response. Ignotus, Cadmus, Antiochus sounds far more post Roman than middle ages. Godric was after them as well so I think the numerology is just way off. My personal idea is that hogwarts was much older than stated, which places Godric in the 5th century AD and he would have been a Cornish/Dumnonan warrior. Peverells were living in the 6th/7th century and this is when the tale originated. Beedle the Bard was supposedly 15th century so the Chaucer or Shakespeare of our times and collected an anthology of legends. I think though that death did appear before the brothers but I also speculate that the brothers located or built the veil and entered into the land of death, that is the metaphorical bridge referred to. It was Cadmus alone who sought entry. Death wanted them gone so bribed each with something they were interested in. Death felt the most venom to Cadmus who wished to nullify the process of death so he was given the most literal but also the most dangerous Hallow as a spiteful revenge.

[@Nicole_blue0406]

Could you make a video on your speculations of who Molly Weasley's parents and ancestors are? Not much is known about her blood family besides her brothers and possibly her paternal uncle. I would very much appreciate it and I'm sure others will as well. If you are unsure about who and how many people would like that video maybe you could make a poll?

[@Auron1Roxas2]

I highly doubt any witch or wizard could create the hallows, so i genuinely believe it was death who made it and seeing as how the cloak was passed down from parent to child, I think the brothers did in fact meet death itself.

[@LocustWarrior]

The movie theater I work at is currently doing a HP marathon and tonight is the Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 and I have been watching all during this marathon.

[@HarryPotterTheory]

Awesome! I’m jealous

[@LocustWarrior]

@@HarryPotterTheory I think the Wizarding World and Middle Earth have such vast history so I'm a huge fan of both and absolutely love the theories.

[@WenceslasHolec]

Congratulations! Being jealous is now fully (but in wholy positive way) shared❤

[@LocustWarrior]

@@WenceslasHolec Being that I work at the theater movies are always free for me and I always get a plus one, strangely no one accepts my invites so I always go alone or have my kids with...and all concessions are half off

[@audioblogs12]

Dumbledore's last response at King's Cross in deathly hallows makes the entire scene untrustworthy, since both Harry and Dumbledore are aware Harry's failure to recognize the distinction between a fantasy happening in Harrys head and reality lead to a significant Sirius tragedy.

[@jdp3578]

The idea of the hallows being made by the brothers is possible, but since its magic, meeting death is probable. But according to a viable theory, each brother may have made 1 of the unforgivable curses. Imperious for the cloak, cruciatus for the stone, and the killing curse for the wand. The theory is onto something with regards to harry facing and overcoming each curse. I honestly forgot that harry at points just shrugs off imperio, and crucio has less of an effect til its literally nothing.

[@ProfCuneusStern]

The most obvious answer to the mysteries of the Deathly Hallows is that they were created by the Peverells for the Peverells. These artifacts could have been invested with Peverell blood, Peverell essence, for the protection of the family, the heirs. The items are useful to non-heirs, but truly powerful in the hands of the real heirs. Dumbledore claimed the cloak did not work as well for him as it did for a Potter. I suspect this is true for all the Hallows. Perhaps the stone did not summon true representations of the deceased, for non-heirs. The elder wand did not give it's full power to Riddle. Possibly because he only had a small fraction of a human soul, or because he was not a true heir. Harry possesses two of the three Hallows when he fought Riddle at the battle of Hogwarts, the wand may have recognized him from that alone. Harry, and for that matter Olivander, may have gotten it wrong about wand loyalty. The elder wand was not an off the shelf wand, it could have been crafted by a Peverell for a Peverell. Succession may have been built in to it's design.

[@paulgraf5746]

There is no true heir. After such a long time, there are thousands of people with a little bit of blood from one of the brothers and some people even have mixed blood from two or all three of the brothers

[@friskel9459]

​@@paulgraf5746 It's the wizards World, were they try to keep the line pure. Plus, wizards live longer than muggles since we have Dumbledore who has more than 150 years and his NEWT examiner, so it's not just because he's powerful. It is possible Harry is their sole descendant.

[@ProfCuneusStern]

@@paulgraf5746 "True Heir" is a loaded phrase. This is not about genetics, its about the law of inheritance. In medieval times, inheritance rules were often based on primogeniture, which favored the eldest son as the heir. These rules included: Inheritance of the whole property The eldest son would inherit the entire property and pass it on to his own sons. Order of succession If the eldest son died before inheriting, the second son would inherit, and so on. Inheritance by daughters If there were no sons, the daughters would inherit, but they would inherit jointly. This meant that the eldest daughter would have to share with her younger sisters. Throne's are not given by blood tests but by primogeniture.

[@fangslore9988]

JK Rowling has already confirmed that the deathly hallows were made by the brothers from the story, and its likely Beadle the bard heard of the stories of each of the brothers through his own research into the 3 artifacts then chose to write a work of fiction in how they got it since perhaps Beadle himself did not know the true story of the deathly hallow's creation. thus what he said about the story being fictional still remains entirely true but based on only what limited information he gained from old wizard records and second hand or even third or fourth hand information at the time

[@barbiquearea]

I remember years ago, the Super Carlin Brothers made a video where they theorize that the Deathly Hallows could be pseudo-Horcruxes. They provided an interesting explanation on how the Peverells could have bound their souls into each of their respective Hallows in order to provide the magic needed to create these extremely powerful artifacts. Perhaps the story of the three brothers outsmarting Death but still dying in the end could have been embellishment from Beedle, with Death being a metaphor for the Peverells sacrificing their mortal lives but still managing to cheat death by encasing their souls into the Hallows.

[@HarryPotterTheory]

Very interesting!

[@andredias95]

But how would Harry be able to break up the wand if it was a horcux? Shouldn't it have a protection on it?

[@theanystrom2882]

​@andredias95 The things we see protection wise from Voldemort's Horcruxes we don't know if it is because they are Horcruxes or if they have additional protective enchantments on them. If it's the latter, then the Hallows could just be Horcruxes with no additional protections making it possible to destroy them easier than Voldemort's Horcruxes.

[@QuatschAlder]

@@andredias95 The wand did not get snapped in the books, just in the movie

[@shanekeenaNYC]

​@@QuatschAlderImagine if Harry managed to make a fake wand in the movie that he just broke in front of Ron and Hermione to throw them off the scent?

[@otakubancho6655]

My theory is Beedle the Bard is actually Death.

[@jerelcolwell9350]

🤯 the plot Thickens

[@baileychase8913]

Could you do a video on the theory of Mrs Norris being a maladictus

[@Nicole_blue0406]

I think he already talked about that in one of his theory videos, I just don't think it has its own video.

[@lauramiller4939]

I don't read (or value) much "post publication" lore, so using only the books for reference, DH indicates that Cadmus never married (since the woman he tried to resurrect was not a wife, but a fiancée). So, if he had no children from a prior relationship/marriage, how were the Gaunts related to him? For example, should we believe a sister found the stone among his possessions and passed it on through her line?

[@labaccident2010]

Well what if his fiancee died in childbirth? Not outside the realm of possibility. It would give reason for his descendants, and also add to his grief.

[@johnathonharris9820]

Just a cool idea to be explored but what if Harry's cloak is a piece of the veil, the stone is from the passage between the living and the dead and the elder wand is from a elder tree in the land of the dead and with all three you can pass through the veil as the master of death just a thought experiment

[@Zoeyau_9]

Great video I loved watching it!

[@Eoraph]

My personal theory about the cloak: It started as an almost regular Demiguise hair cloak but the follikles of every hair is still intact. Then it would be infused alchemically wirh unicorn blood to keep the hair alive and thus prevent it from fading after a decade. Side effects: -if someone is completely covered by the cloak the unicorn blood also keeps the wearer alive -although it is not ingested, the blood's curse gives people who wear it a lot a deminished version manifesting in Harry's polar luck

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

But it's woven from Threstal hair.

[@caseyhamm4292]

i was so ready to reject the argument of this video out of hand but this video was actually very compelling. it’s not that we KNOW dumbledore is wrong, we just know that these artefacts are ancient enough that even his knowledge of their origin is a bit shoddy. and the bit about the veil, brilliant! this video shows how not explaining every detail of the canon actually can make the world richer and larger

[@meacadwell]

I think you're overreaching here. Just because there are no documents or tales about the Deathly Hallows before Beedle the Bard's doesn't mean there weren't any. All it means is they haven't yet been found. Many historical tales were oral before being written down, meaning they are old stories. And what were these tales written on? Things like parchment, Vellum, papyrus, or other paperlike substance which degrades easily. So, other than being carved into stone or on clay tablets, it's only logical to assume any original story documents are probably gone. Just like what happened to original documents in real life.

[@adrastoso9727]

One thing to note though, that the cloak only works 100% if used by the third brothers descendants; as Dumbledore noted. This tells me that rhe third item is somehow linked to Harry’s bloodline, while the other two can be welded fully by anyone. No one has ever possessed all three items at once though; the real question is what could a wizard or witch do with all three in their possession…..

[@lankster4]

Does anyone else feel like the Harry potter universe is a world of magical decline. They have all these ancient powerful objects. Yet in the modern age the ability to create new ones or even recognise old ones seems to be lost. It feels like wizards and witches are becoming less powerful and less knowledgeable of how far magic can go. Other nations of magic also seem unable or unwilling to help each other leading to lack of knowledge transfer between them. Just a thought

[@LegioXXI]

Well yes. It seems like ancient magic was more advanced (even dark magic, see the invention of Horkruxes). Maybe the fall of the Roman Empire also affected the magical world. And since the magical world never had any form of Renaissance, they are just stuck.

[@cedriceric9730]

they need muggles more than muggles need theti its apparent they regard themselves as new species instead of gifted humans giving their gifts is the only way gifts grow but the entire wizarding community practices the exact opposite this is why older wizards despite persecution were super powerful and could concieve of magics beyond modern wizards, they didnt try to hide and openly improved their craft in the real world while modern wizards have only themselves to practice with we see this in the middle east ,50 percent inbreeding literaly maddens the population jk rowling hints strongly at this among wizards , they insist on marrying wizards even if it will make them extinct soon, this is also behind their weakness

[@iio_moon]

More like they limit themselves as they develop a modern society. Most of them tend to co exist and live in peace with the non magic people which requires limitation in magics to keep the world in balance and magic in secret from the non magic world. But they seem to be able to create new magical objects that is used to keep the secrecy in check such as the the location orb which can track magical happenings all around the world. They could also make time manipulating devices too, which are one of the most broken stuff in the verse. It seems like magic would still keep evolving as beings like dumbledore and voldemort exist in the eras consistently and study, discover ancient magic and knowledges.

[@StarlasAiko]

@@iio_moon But that is just it. The most powerful wizards alive are merely rediscovering ancient magic. They are not discovering or developing any new magic. The inbreading to keep bloodlines pure, and the therefrom resulting generational mental decline, might well be a factor. Modern wizards don't even comprehend the purpose of rubber ducks. But not keeping the bloodlines pure may just as much contribute to decline, weakening the magical bloodlines by mixing with muggles. However, there are instances of pure muggles developing/being born with the ability to use magic. Are they just genetic throwbacks in squib bloodlines? Maybe all of humanity once used to be wizards but for some reason squibs started to become commonplace, creating the race of muggles? I don't think the existence of advanced technology is a factor, as it is in other franchises. Magic works well in conjunction with technology, as can be seen by the flying car (which is so disfunctional not because of joining magic with tech but because it is a cheap old banger the impoverished Weaslies are barely capable of keeping repaired). If it was merely a conflict between magic and science, then the old magics would not be rediscoverable and ancient artefacts would have lost power and/or reliability or their mere presence would cause technology to malfunction in their vicinity.

[@theanystrom2882]

I think it's more only a few truly great powerful wizards are born around the same time, not that wizards as a whole are getting weaker. You don't hear about all ancient wizards being super powerful and knowledgeable just a few spread throughout history. I think modern wizards are just more complacent and less willing to push the boundaries of magic. But modern wizards being more complacent doesn't mean there's not still powerful or knowledgeable wizards in the modern era. Voldemort, Albus Dumbledore, Grindlewald, Harry Potter, Olivander, they are all extremely knowledgeable or powerful in one or more areas of magic.

[@Nancy-hy5so]

When Sirius was hit by Bellatrix s spell was she the one that killed or just pushed him back to have him go in the veil? What I mean is did he die from her wand or the veil either way she was the cause of his death so I'm wondering if someone touches or goes in that they die instantly? Did she kill him with her wand and he was dead then and the veil pulled him in? Confused about that

[@nataliaf.6289]

I have a lot of theories about this. 1. Who is Death? a) they actually met Death personified. b) If they didnt met Death itself, the story is in its essence that someone gave the artifacts to them. As the brothers were real people, Death would also be a real person. c) Death, the nature force not personified since tales genre tend to personify energies and objects, "gives" them the artifacts. Meaning they used Death energy to create or get the already created artifacts. I think we have a hint to these since Dumbledore gives gifts trough his death to the golden trio in the begining of the deathly Hallows book, literally gifts from death in a book with this title. I can imagine (fanfic) someone's death generating a force that would protect them from death, thats how they "cheated" death. Also, creating a horcruxe is another way to cheat death using a death. So, as Dumbledore said they were dangerous, maybe they studied the Dark Arts and used death to create the Hallows. 2. I think all the Death lore were a setting for a sequel she never wrote. Most of creatures and artifacts related to death appear after the 5th book, when she probably already knew how It would end since I almost certain that she released that 7 handrawn version of Beedles Tales a few months before Just released for the general público after the last book. (7 = magical number, 7 horcruxes) The in universo clues: - In kings Cross Dumbledore says "death Its only the next adventure" - Ultimately, with reasons or not, Dumbledore chose to die after founding the last Hallow in the ring. He never said what he did with the Stone, he used? He used only as a source of research? If the stone is actually cursed by Death to cause death, both him and Harry chose to die after using It. - In James and Lilian grave, in the same graveyard of the Peverell's, that only appears in the last book, its written: "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death". That seems insenstive and Harry reacted badly. Also, its falls in Voldemorts logic of fearing death and trying to beat It, while Lily accepted Death and sacrificed herself. This it out of character or its a clue. At least, hints to wanting to come back from death. There is more stuff but I think that this is already the juice of it. My craziest fan fiction theory of what that saga would be is: The veil is CLEARLY a portal and we already know that you can cross it from life to death. What if the brothers "cheated death" creating a BRIDGE (something you cross) with magic after founding a way of coming back from the veil? If the stone is from the Arch of the veil, the river they have to cross is the veil and the bridge would be to cross the veil. This could also be crossing it from life to death but without dying. That would explains why Death, personified or not, hunts them. Its against nature them being alive.

[@nataliaf.6289]

Ps. I think she didnt followed this story even hinting to that bc it would take frrom the message of the whole séries of acceptance of death

[@hunterkiller1440]

I wish Nicholas Flamel's Philosopher's Stone is the Resurrection Stone. When Dumbledore said it was destroyed, he meant it destroyed the properties of Elixir of Life. However, it was still found by Voldermort, who tried to use it to resurrect himself when Wormtail found him but failed thus needing the Triwizard Tournament planning. During the events of Goblet of Fire, when he and Harry dueled, it triggered the true potential of the Stone, bringing back echoes of Voldermort's victims. Seeing how terrifying the Stone and what the stone really is, he cursed it which ultimately led to Dumbledore's death.

[@victoriar4637]

People in the period the Peverell brothers lived in didn't have so many written stories as spoken and passed through the generations. So whether the hallows were created by them, other humans or given to them by an unearthly being, the stories were probably passed through time by the family line and made up to an extent by Beedle as it is in his book, from an ancient folklore of some version of reality.

[@RealmofQuiz-21]

Love the video!

[@jacobdrolet4262]

Amazing theory about the deadly harrows origins in the wizarding world,fantastic job.

[@DivineKnight_115]

The cloak is easily the most practical.

[@Exodusisback]

I did always wonder how true the tale was, given everything about the HP universe, i wouldn't be suprised if the entire thing were true, that death is a legitimate entity, it's hard to blur the lines when essentially anything is possible

[@Tyraelaus669]

I can just see Beedle running around with a journal and a time turner composing his "fictions."

[@chinolebron6233]

I think what you're insinuating is definitely possible. Not about the part about death being a real entity. That to me seems to be the original portion of Beatle's tale. It is possible, though, that the brothers were the earliest or most popular documented people with the hollows. Given that tragedy followed the brothers after acquiring the artifacts are the very makings of an outlandish story told by neighbors and nearby villaiges during that era.

[@nicholasclaus9695]

I have a theory about the vail myself: the vail was made by ancient magic because in the game of hogwarts legacy you can hear the same voices when you use ancient magic to make arches and the arches seem to have a vail

[@AjCobb-z7d]

I love you guys's videos here's one to do a topic on tell me how you think about it. What if students at Hogwarts were sorted all over again every year at the start of the school year like just because you were a ravenclaw last year your personality changed throughout that one year doesn't necessarily mean ravenclaws a good soup for you next year as well maybe you become more ambitious after your test results and now you want to switch over to Slytherin or something who knows I feel like if that would have been a factor in the storyline it would have changed things dramatically❤🎉

[@AjCobb-z7d]

Like imagine this is a plot twist according to what I just mentioned it at one point Harry Potter and Malfoy would have been roommates

[@Skylancer727]

I don't know, I think there is substantial enough evidence that the Peverells did create them as there's crumbs of their other creations. Like how the three curses share their first initials and similar intentions to the hallows, or how we have other mysterious objects like the veil and the mirror of erised that again mirror they're goals. It's as though the hallows weren't their first creation, but the final product.

[@TRGantz]

What do you mean with the three curses share their first initials and similar intentions to the hallows?

[@Skylancer727]

@TRGantz Antioch is the own connected to the elder wand, the most powerful wand, and also shared the first initial as avadakadavera the most powerful spell. Some have even suggested that Voldemort saying the wand didn't work for him may mean the wand isn't actually stronger, the idea of it was formed by the brother's use of the killing curse which is an unstoppable attack. Cadmus is connected to the resurrection stone which makes stunted imitations of those who died and led him to self inflicted death and shares the initial of crusio; the spell that gives people unending pain enough to kill themselves. Ignotus is the one connected to the invisibility cloak and openly accepted death, and imperio shares his initial and supposedly makes people feel incredibly blissful and happy about everything they're told to do.

[@LordWyatt]

I have a theory: what if the Veil under the ministry of magic was not the only one, but the last gate. Perhaps one was in Greece

[@jonathantorres4085]

I really want to see the tale of three brothers in film a story about those three and of course about the four founders of Hogwarts

[@trendloe]

You also cant use the summoning charm on the cloak. It is absolute secrecy in cloth form.

[@Jay-ate-a-bug]

Beedle the Bard, may have come up with the story by actually speaking to Cadmus Peveril. Beedle, in researching the famed Hallows, as many Wizards have done, could have, himself, come across one or more of them, but specifically the Resurrection Stone. Why not use it to summon Cadmus himself to relay to him the true origins of the Hallows? It would be a tale worth telling, but perhaps repackaged by Beedle in more of a Moral tale because the true origins of the tale would have been too dangerous to reveal to the Wizarding Community. There is a responsibility for the greater good in the telling of a tale, after all, and the lessons of trying to cheat death are apparent in the tale of the Three Brothers.

[@JosephTraub-v9v]

besides all: Maybe Dumbledore told Harry so, because he new that Voldemort had to (try) to kill Harry, for that the part of Voldemort in Harry dies. Only now Voldemort can die. And only that way Harry protects all others like his mother protected him after her death. Maybe all that would´t have happened if Harry was able to overcome death. But why didn´t Harry try out all three Deathly Hallows at once, or did he??

[@lipingrahman6648]

Death could be a physical being and maybe he also gave the alchemist the philosopher’s stone.

[@ayiza8511]

That story have never made sense, are the brother really the only wizards that found a way over that bridge? No wizard or witch have never appreated over that bridge or just made a port key or even just levitated each other over?

[@satmtca]

How does the 3rd brother and his cloak have bad consequences? The first 2 I can understand wanting a powerful wand and stone that can recall the dead or a part of them but the cloak isn’t as deceiving as the stone or wand minus the rarity of the cloak to be hidden from any and everything.

[@kestrelwings]

My theory is that wands draw their energy from an energy source, maybe and obelisk left behind by space aliens. When you point your wand and say a spell, the obelisk runs a computer program and performs the magic. The Peverell brothers found an obelisk that nobody else was using. Overall, it was a weaker obelisk, but with only 3 users, the power per user was greater. Death could be a space alien.

[@theanystrom2882]

From my understanding of the Harry Potter universe, wands are just tools that help wizards direct their magic. Which means your theory is completely wrong as wizards are the "power source" and wands don't draw energy from anything they just direct it.

[@Jeepin1975]

Interesting. What if the resurrection stone gives you the ability of traveling back-and-forth through the veil?

[@yspegel]

It would be plausible IF... the history of the 3 brothers matches (time spawn of their death, evidence; their graves) and there is otherwise not enough historical evidence left of their real lives. If the wand where a tool created by death himself, Harry destroying his favorite tool to lur ambitious wizards into a early grave, he wouldn't take that lightly. If the story of Beedle the Bard was true, he would 100% sure re-appear again at the moment Harry broke it. So we can rule that out in my opinion.

[@karlrovey]

Harry only destroyed the end in the movie, not the book. In the book, he puts it back in Dumbledore's tomb.

[@AAVVVAAADDAAAKAAADAVRAAA]

Unless it's cannon from the person that wrote the story, people are gonna have a 1000 different things to say. But she also used it perfectly as an essence of how stories from thousands of years ago. Get misconstrued, so you're stuck having all this person said this, but this person said this and this is how it is. Nobody knows so until she can confirm. That that's what it is. We're just going off of whatever somebody else said. That's how theories and legends Work

[@ranges787]

BIG THEORY it makes no sense that the brothers created those objects. i get why the wand would only be made once but the cloak and the stone makes no sense. if you can make a stone that lets you talk with the dead you surely make more than one just like with the cloak. if you can do it once you will surely make it twice. the wizard world is also a capitalistic system and the stone would be the biggest cash grab in all of harry potter just like the cloak just imagine the wealth those items can create. that’s why i think death actually gave them those super unique items far too powerful for humans to comprehend. my theory is one of the brothers got intel on a rift that ends people on touch in form like a river without form always finding a way to flow getting larger and larger. he called his other powerful bros to investigate this rift and after they encountered it they created a vessel for it in form of the veil frame and that’s the bridge so instead of a bridge over a river the story describes how they created the veil they found the rift and created the frame. a bridge from the living world to the dead in form of a gateway. now death got p i $ $ e d that they dodged his bullet and even tamed his power and thus gave them those legendary items to get them in the end. they are all part of his power. 1. the wand has the instant death power 2. the stone has the power to communicate with the dead you lost 3. the cloak hides its content. lets compare that to the veil behind it is 1. instant death 2. voices from deceased people you know 3. a black veil that hides his content the items all have the power of the veil itself. the veil tries to lure you inside and the consequence is death and bc the brothers dodged this bullet death came out to get them anyway with the exact same thing in form of the deadly hollows. why was the cloak unwillingly handed over and the other items not? bc it was the cloak that made death invisible and he only has this one thus making him visible for everyone else. he truly met all brothers in person at their end BC he was not invisible to the eye anymore and his goal is to end people before they die of natural age and make their life miserable that’s his only goal. the cloak brother was in the end the only one who departed as deaths equal bc he basically beat him at his own game AND robbing him of his invisibility forever bc there is only one cloak and it’s clearly in possession of humans. so death just said f it and split himself into the dementors his veil got tamed he no longer is invisible thus he goes out and collects souls himself in form of dementors. that why they first appeared around 1500 bc death no longer was invisible and had to invent another method to take the souls of humans. why can’t you kill a dementor? bc you can’t kill death. why do dementors get repelled by the patronus? bc death hates happiness and good vibes. i mean that’s literally how the third brother beat death by living a long and fulfilled life. the veil is in the ministry and they throw someone in sometimes and they don’t destroy it. and at azkaban death literally grinds free exp and that’s the reason why the dementors are best buddies with the ministry its win win for him. but he would switch sides if voldemort rules bc his death count and despair would beat azkaban and the ministry by 10 miles. why are the dementors blind? because he couldn’t find the third brother bc he is invisible anyway so he switched plans from eye sight to feeling emotions. why do the dementors have a special thing with harry? BECAUSE HE IS THE OWNER OF THE CLOAK. it’s like death has a grudge towards the cloaks owner he lost once and now he is salty. he knows for sure the other two items get the people involved killed at some point but the cloak not. was harry actually the master of death? YES 100% he owned him big time he lost the stone in the forest forever he snapped the wand and still has the cloak he truly made death his B. i mean c mon this all makes so much sense haha

[@stevencavanagh7990]

I wonder if the 3 artifacts were gifted to the Greatest Wizards of there time, and from there passed down there family lines, coming into possession of there decedents the Potters & the Gaunts. meaning Death gifted, Godric, Salasar, Rowena & Helga. of course there is a massive hole in this Theory, and that there are 3 Hallows and 4 founders, so ether it's wrong or there is a missing Hallow.

[@WenceslasHolec]

I would like to say, that you shall give the idea, to deeply analyse the book of Beetle the Bard for any fragments of the real events. They're like supercomputer and the numerous results and possibilities will be fantastic. Look at the number of ways, the Elder Wand got to Harry's ownership!!!

[@es.kamalvanshi]

I don't think the brothers were that powerful, because if they were, then why didn't they create any other such hallows, especially Ignotus who lived his full life.

[@huuua2]

6:55 Well, i'd like to know where you get your information from too haha I guess, we win some, and lose some haha

[@Tomthestarhartnell]

What if this story was hidden in plain sight for a reason? Imagine having this idea to use the wand to enchant the most fairy of fairytale books to deceive the world into believing that the story about your wand... What wand? That's just a fairy tale!

[@bobfg3130]

No, Dumbledore got it right. There's no personified death. The 3 hollows are not that old. The fear of death is something that is fundamental to humanity and so the desire for power but that DOESN'T mean that the wand was made in antiquity instead of the early middle ages. The wand isn't 1000 years older than initially thought. The Peverell brothers created those objects.

[@Enigmatic..]

How is it Grindelwald could use the Elder wand after he stole it, wouldn't it still belong to Gregorovich because he didn't beat him in battle or kill him? I have only seen the movies so this might be explained in the books.

[@eamonlyons8069]

Read the books.

[@Enigmatic..]

@@eamonlyons8069 How about nooooo.

[@toddfraser3353]

They were created by the Great Scottish Wizard McGuffin

[@rasheedjalloul]

Books are rather new, Beedle must've been the first publisher

[@dankalisz3235]

Beddle the Bard is Death

[@I-Am-Blue]

I'm not paid to think

[@justinernest2363]

Awesome

[@theprovocateur9877]

Remember that the New Testament was written some 50 years after Jesus died…

[@andrewhicks982]

Is any of this J.K.'s work? Because otherwise it's medicore fan fict at best

[@AlexB-vt5xe]

did dumbledore use the stone to speak with ariana?

[@Skepticismistheway]

It's never expressly stated but Dumbledore was not a stupid man and knew it was a horcrux and cursed yet put it on anyways.. this seems to point to him at least trying to use it

[@d3AdLyf3]

Ive always wondered wtf youd do if ya couldnt remember wherebya out the cloak lol.

[@grokeffer6226]

👍👍👍

[@drxxa]

Rip hpt got bots

[@mydowidoipowido2558]

Wdym

[@eliasthienpont6330]

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[@Nicholas-nu4wy]

A stretch to say the least. The only persons with the answer is the author of the series. Anything beyond that is just silly theory

[@umwha]

Thumbs up if you support womens only spaces

[@WenceslasHolec]

I honestly don't like the one sided, male heritage only, way of making the tree of life. Genetically speaking, you can be 0 percent Linfred and your one X chromosome is fully mixed cocktail of various Wesley's family and relatives and y is from Peverell great great Grandfather.

[@inazuma3gou]

Iolanthe Peverell was the granddaughter of Ignotus Peverell so from the very beginning this is not a male heritage tree.

[@WenceslasHolec]

@@inazuma3gou Males create families and bear name of family, females not. What I am talking about is a whole aspect of their culture.

[@inazuma3gou]

@@WenceslasHolec You hate the entire Western civilization. Got it.