DUNE 2 | Final battle | Fremen Vs Sardaukar Soldiers | 4k

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[@nathanhill4728]

I love how the Sardaukar went from the most elite fighting force in the whole Galaxy to Paul saying “hey kill those dudes off screen”

[@dilkas5074]

Still fremem>>>

[@stephenking5852]

It doesn’t matter if you’re a fremen or a sardaukar. Nothing compares to Shai-Hulud.

[@Serby665]

Yeah, I always felt the same. They build them up to be some serious danger to Paul and the Taliban, only to then have the Sardines destroyed every step of they way. They are so worthless they just kill the last ones off screen, like, meh

[@salilshankar]

Paul had the numbers… the number of Fremen soldiers in there were too many plus we know that they are tremendous fighters.

[@LisaAnn777]

Paul has atomic weapons and sand worms lol doesn't matter how good they are.

[@TankUni]

After he drops the message tube, he's just Walken away.

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

Indeed christofer walked away xD

[@Corristo89]

BA DUM TSSS

[@jemjohnson5315]

Goddamnit take my like

[@corinnoiv.padishaemperor9208]

okay Sir, this time you won :)

[@OliverLee789]

Must be hard to walk with that gold watch up his ass

[@NekoHibaCosplay]

When the HEYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE drops, you know shit's gonna be real

[@MegaTron7568]

hello haida

[@nikonl3]

2:11 hhahaha

[@gareththomas3283]

Uncle Roger so hot right now

[@svftystrange]

FR SHITS ABOUT TO GO DOWN

[@NorthForkFisherman]

"Sir? They're sending in their cavalry first." "Horses? On this gods-forsaken waste? They are barbarians and fools." "No, sir. Not horses." (Extremely puzzled look returned) "They're riding their Gods into battle."

[@geraldstevenson9781]

😂😅

[@travisdaniels4139]

This comment needs more appreciation

[@NorthForkFisherman]

@@travisdaniels4139 Bless The Maker And His Water.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Refere from?

[@meldroc]

It's helpful when nothing short of a nuke can kill your horses, or do anything other than piss them off!

[@igxrruaof]

seeing the worms from the Sardaukar's and Emperor's point of view must have been so unfathomably terrifying, they literally didn't see it coming from miles away

[@QUIROPTEROHOLLOW]

Imagine being a super soldier raised in war to specifically beat any other fighter in the known universe... Then a fucking worm the size of a town comes down on you. Like what are you supposed to do lmao 😂

[@YesThatElijah]

PERISH

[@keysersoze3427]

@Blaz_-te2ku Dude so much wrong with your comment. The Sardukar fell prey to the standard arrogance of a force not challenged enough. Look at Charrae, Carrahe and the Teutoburg forest for example. And the Fremen are based on the Bedoins (amongst others). Try not to let your white supremacy shine through so much.

[@beaniepirates6759]

​@@Blaz_-te2kuBad take AND based in unfounded antisemitism? Didn't expect to see such dipshittery so early in the day.

[@CrispyChristieMAC]

@@Blaz_-te2ku Jewish mythology? Paul's path is Jihad and the book is a condemnation on zealotry, martyrdom and blind faith. What are you even talking about?

[@spearshake4771]

Knowing how expensive it was for the Baron Harkonnen to bring his army to Arrakis I can't even imagine how much money it must have cost the Emperor let alone all the great houses who specially made the trip. The navigators guild must have been swimming in money

[@meldroc]

I'm pretty sure the Spacing Guild gave Shaddam a steep discount in this case - they were afraid of getting their spice cut off. Amazing how fast they go through the stuff when they hotbox it 24/7...

[@AnonynousCoward]

@@meldroc Correct, As I recall from the book the Guild dropped prices greatly for any and all armies who were willing to go to Arakis and fight Paul.

[@davevd9944]

@@AnonynousCoward Makes sense they're 100% entirely depended on Arakis to do their business to begin with.

[@DomDaddyDonald]

Is the spacing guild Dunes version of the Jews?

[@Kyurem97]

@@DomDaddyDonald HUH????

[@Starstreak170]

This wasn't a battle, it was a massacre.

[@MyBrainGlows]

i mean, its literally a crusade... so... that tradition i think

[@costco_pizza]

These were two EVENLY matched KILLING machines doing battle with each other!! Who knows how many countless scores of Fremen the Sardaukar carved apart before finally being overwhelmed by them!? It must have been tens of thousands. Incredible battle!!!

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

@@costco_pizzaThey were not evenly matched. The Fremen outclass the Sardaukar.

[@segocago]

@@costco_pizza They were far from being evenly matched, sardaukar was piece of meat compared to fremens.

[@costco_pizza]

Oh come on guys!!! You guys really expect me to believe a bunch of desert rats would be a match for the feared and dreaded Sardaukar!? Come on now! Let’s be realistic here!!!

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

The irony of the Sardaukar is that they're absolutely the elite... in conventional warfare. Conventional warfare in Dune requires shields and close combat weaponry, with the killing blow being slowed down to pierce the shield. Shields can't be used on Arrakis due to the worms being drawn to them. Thus, these experts in shielded melee combat are completely incapable of dealing with foes who are used to unshielded combat in the desert. This is why the Emperor had to be lured to Arrakis: On their home ground where they could use standard tactics, the Sardaukar would win, just like when they stormed the Atreides estate. It was only by bringing them out in the desert where all of their advantages were neutralized could the Fremen win. Striking where your enemy is weakest and you are strongest is the most fundamental principles of strategic warfare, and Paul was taught very well by his mentors.

[@vonn4017]

you get it

[@willm4067]

why are the worms drawn to shields?

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

@@willm4067 I don't think we're ever given a complete explanation, but the worms are attracted rhythmic vibrations like a normal human stride or the noise produced by a thumper, and it is possible that an active shield produces such a vibration when on the sand on a frequency that humans can't hear. The reason why isn't relevant, what matters is that they are.

[@willm4067]

@@FirstLast-cg2nk Appreciate you taking time to respond, I was asking simply of curiosity!!!

[@pureenergy4902]

@@willm4067 The shields are generated by a field which blocks/anything moving faster than a set speed (usually the speed air needs to travel to be inhaled and exhaled for personal shields). As such the field also rythmically emmits against the ground around it at such a high frequency that it attracts and drives the worm crazy. This at the very least is how the shields worked in the books

[@gl3282]

3:13 I love how the Sardaukar starts running in order of individual intelligence. lmao

[@DavidRamos-sr8cx]

Ikr, what are they doing standing there? I would have been running in .0002 seconds.

[@stepanserdyuk4589]

Those who stayed, I'd reward. Those who ran, I'd promote, though...

[@8301TheJMan]

A few were prolly like, "If we stick to our training, work together as a unit we should be okayyyyy...... hey - where yall running to?"

[@mzytryck]

"Did you counsel my father to exterminate the Atreides?" "Of course I did. Why else would it have happened?" I love how irritated she sounds at her student's failure to understand who is actually running the show.

[@rogueascendant6611]

It's kind of an irony that the Bene Gesserit surmounted their downfall over opposing House Atreides. The destruction and survival of Atreides led by Paul Atreides is a self-fulfilling prophecy that the Bene Gesserit desperately avoiding. It came back haunting on them upon the rise of the God Emperor, Leto Atreides II.

[@mauz791]

​@@rogueascendant6611 but in the end, their wish was partially fulfilled. Leto II did change humanity and save it from extinction by forcing them to adapt, and to not be complacent. But he was out fo their control. A messiah they couldnt control ironically, was the thing that was necessary

[@agentofenhanced2428]

This exact arrogance is also what led to her and their downfall, they couldn't just do everything they wanted

[@timovangalen1589]

It was immensely satisfying to watch Paul shut her up

[@stable577]

2:14 goosebumps

[@bekiebb3631]

ikr! revenge for the House Atreidesss!!!

[@ninotuananh6821]

2:01

[@Aenarion_Godslayer]

ADAM RESHI A-ZAANTA !!!

[@VoidSpirals]

UNDER THE SEA OR SOMETHING 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️

[@dragonrider1736]

Like how the thumper was making a rhythm?

[@nateb2715]

The reason they don't show more of this battle is because then they would have to try to explain how thousands of Fremen get off of the worms from that height and speed

[@cadianzz]

sandworm just slows and stop and they jump down, it's as simple as that

[@user-rl4tg2mr9n]

You could actually see the sandworms slow down Edit: for clarity, the fremen have a general idea of how long a sandworm can travel for before tiring, so its really just a case of calculating the distance to travel until they tire

[@christopherpardell4418]

Sand worms can roll. The Fremen used hooked levers to force their external planes apart and the worm would roll, so that the gap would be on top, and its why the worms did not dive fully under the sand. To dismount you would just pull the hooks out and the worm would roll whichever way was most comfortable, and you would step off as it rolled, or the worm would dive you you just stepped off onto the sand like the bottom step on the escalator.

[@lordpickle8424]

Tuck and roll I guess, lol.

[@CJ-M43]

Remember that the main force wasn't on top of the worms but was already buried in the sand. They split up as shown when Paul explains the troop tactics at 1:32.

[@mcfragger2605]

I know it feels kinda disappointing for the Sardaukar to get rolled over but we have remember Paul has clear vision of the future so this strategy was literally the best one that’s statistically possible. In other words, imagine cheating in a video blatantly. Thats why it was easy

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

This is what an army of religious fanatics raised in constant warfare do to a royal guard who haven't fought a real enemy in centuries, on terrain they don't know with complete tactical surprise.

[@arcticwulf5796]

In the book Paul also taught the Fremen to use the voice in a fight so these people that already born in a harsh planet where they duel to determine who leads their communities, become even more dangerous. Also in the books the Sardaukar are from a emperor's prison planet where some are chosen and are moulded into his personal army. It's the trope that harsh places make for hard people.

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

@@arcticwulf5796Paul doesn’t teach the Fremen how to use the voice. Him and Jessica train them in the Weirding Way, a secret fighting set of the Bebe Gesserit.

[@costco_pizza]

Guys, you expect me to believe a bunch of desert rats living in caves would be a match for the feared and dreaded Sardaukar!? Come on now, you can’t possibly expect me to believe this!?

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

@@costco_pizza Why do you keep posting this? Are you a bot?

[@MrHeavy466]

If you didn't see this movie in IMAX, then you definitely missed out.

[@gibranalvarado1269]

When I went to my local small theater unfortunately there was no IMAX but they had Dolby but even better was I had the whole room to myself it was an epic watch

[@chrisCKDE]

watched it 2 times in IMAX 4k Laser [ 70mm is 500km away :( ]. It was really insane and a experience like no other.

[@davidcheehongchuan9069]

Yeah, watching this in IMAX is best.

[@austinduran3557]

I recorded the 70mm

[@odjob77]

Watched it 5 times in IMAX, because I know I won't experience this movie the same way ever again. I praise the lord of IMAX part 2 will have a rerun.

[@alive4metal731]

Watching Chani make quick work of Sardaukar soldiers is something else. The supposedly best and most feared soldiers in the galaxy being completely outclassed and downright wrecked by Fremen warriors as if nothing. Levels.

[@georgeofhamilton]

By a teenage girl, no less.

[@ArbiterofMankind]

@@georgeofhamiltonmy guess is that they aren’t used to fighting without shields as this isn’t conventional warfare for the saudaukar

[@alive4metal731]

@@ArbiterofMankind lol. Shields wouldn't help them much either, maybe just to stay alive a little bit longer.

[@ArbiterofMankind]

@@alive4metal731 I mean they’d probably win if they fought the Fremen with shields. But it seems here they didn’t have any so they died quite easily.

[@matthewcaughey8898]

Arrakis was a far less hospitable planet then the Sardaukar homeworld

[@lucacupido5342]

Wish this was a bit longer, it’s soooo good

[@MadMatty01]

It's actually longer in the movie, though not by a lot.

[@piarpeggio]

@@MoonC64 0of

[@dball_94]

The thing is, the Fremen are supposed to be overwhelmingly terrifying here. You're definitely supposed to feel that they are religious zealots and worryingly unstoppable

[@thembelanichamane5468]

I wanted to see the spacing guild and Thafir Hawit under Harkonnen tyranny

[@radithramadhan8488]

If denis could only makes the battle 10 minutes long not 2 minutes, i bet that would be more fun than entire avatar battles

[@Tattletale97]

And that is how in his name, Billions dies.

[@avocadotoast6369]

I don't get how, though. Tens of thousands of worlds with billions of people supposedly succumb to millions of fighters. An army of millions on this scale still amounts to throwing pebbles in a lake. What's more, the Harkonnen as one of the great houses needed their entire fighting capacity as well as imperial support to take just one planet, yet the Fremen will go on to take thousands with barely breaking a sweat. Haven't read the books, so really hoping there's a lore-wise explanation behind this other than "Fremen too OP".

[@Tattletale97]

@@avocadotoast6369 Fermen is not the problem, Paul and his Prescience is, with the capacity to perfectly predict future, Paul can turn every single disadvantage into advantage, and win every single battle with minimum sacrifices.

[@avocadotoast6369]

@@Tattletale97 I have kind of read a little here and there on the Dune wiki and whatnot, it seems that Paul completely loses the ability to control the Fremen as they religiously cleanse worlds and become out of control. So if Paul cannot command them, then I would argue the Fremen are still the larger issue here.

[@Tattletale97]

@@avocadotoast6369 He lost the ability to control Fremen, not the ability to direct them, one would say he never really have proper control of them in the first place, since the Fremen are fundamentalist fanatics, you don't control fanatics, you can only redirect the flood. With "Only" Billions of death is actually the best Paul can achieve, it is his golden path.

[@Tattletale97]

@@avocadotoast6369 Can you see my latest reply? I think it disappeared?

[@liamencabo868]

I remember reading Dune back in middle school from my mom. One of the best things I ever did. And no disrespect to all the media before this but Denis really captured what he could from the books thus far with the amount of screen time allocated ( Dune’s lore is big ). And the charge against the Sadukar from the Fremen. You can really see the type of style they have, Sadukar (while surprised) were still in formation I’m assuming. But the Fremen were demons, rising up from the sand and fighting like animals. Like unconventional warfare. Maybe one of the best movies of 2024!

[@tannystakeaways8511]

Was this battle as one-sided in the book? Excellent film either way.

[@syphe101]

@@tannystakeaways8511 Good question as I have not read the books.

[@Illier1]

@@tannystakeaways8511 Fremen are basically depicted as super soldiers. They all are seasoned warriors who have microdosed on Spice their entire lives. Just a few legions of them are enough to level planets. Entire planets were wasted in their Jihad.

[@tmnj1495]

@@Illier1wtfffffff!!!!! Are you serious? I’m taking notes 📝

[@maninthemailbox6094]

@@tannystakeaways8511 Yeah, another thing about the Fremen is that as they are like how the Sadukar were when the imperium came to be, highly trained vicious religious fanatics willing to die for their cause and the one who united them to fight for it. It's why the Sardukar were so feared, but time and a lack of enemies eroded their religious zeal and though they were still not to be fucked with, they could just no longer be compared to the Sardukar that won the Battle of Corrin and created the imperium as we know it by that point.

[@picarddl5524]

Shout out to that one Sadukar at 3:13 that squared up against a worm. Dude has b*lls of steel.

[@koko40800]

Or just really stupid, thinking he could take on Shai Hulud with a sword lol

[@piarpeggio]

@@koko40800 Stupidity and courage often go hand in hand tbh

[@teiyeyia]

Or perhaps, he was frozen in shock, which happens often even in real life

[@John_Lyle]

*Had* balls of steel. It is called the past tense.

[@gershomtan5879]

​@@teiyeyiaballs of steel but a smooth brain.

[@DeepEye1994]

3:07 that goes down hard, goosebumps every time

[@ifeelsane2898]

the sound is scary asf

[@shazilla6518]

The atomic rocket launch is eargasm aswell 2:22

[@buttchunksofdoomd4939]

I DIDNT KNOW BRO COULD ROAR LIKE THAT

[@dougdupont6134]

Yeah this was definitely... "inspired" by Joss Whedon. In case you haven't seen Serenity: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpC5hH2cfc6BhqMsi=RKXHJDjiYpkNX_5H&t=78

[@ffucko]

@@dougdupont6134that shit is trash bro

[@adriannn1180]

the only complaint i got with this fight scene is the "main push" towards the emperor... we didnt see any fighting at all, just all the troops coming over the ridge... rly wished after the fremen fight was done then i'd switch over for a overhead view on the main push towards the emperor, where after like 5 seconds those explosions would go off... where it switches from the outside and inside of the "Emperor's champers" if u can call it that... Would make the fight even better... but with how it is now 9.8/10

[@mikoajmajka5312]

the thing is that it wasnt even a battle, emperor forces got destroyed instantly so showing the fight was poitless bcs there wasnt any stake since paul knows what will happen, that he will win.

[@olnbgy4444]

They should’ve made it like when the sardukaur first eliminated the atreides . When they dropped slow motion bombs and then fought on foot .

[@avocadotoast6369]

@@mikoajmajka5312 With this logic any sequel to this movie will be pointless because we know he'll win. Hell, any movie really is pointless if looking at it like this, it's very rare that evil will actually triumph over good in big screen storytelling. It's about the journey

[@BurritoKingdom]

Probably due to budget cuts. If they overstretch the budget you'd see the bad CGI that every blockbuster has had for the past 3 years. And bad CGI really takes me out of movies.

[@tarikay93]

I'm guessing there will be a director's cut edition. But yeah the fight was too short

[@Saiyanprince1114]

2:02 Absolute cinema

[@georgeofhamilton]

3:57 Gotta love how the Sardaukar ornithopters flew right into the sandstorm for no reason.

[@hiibillymayshere4238]

Nah, they probably thought they could turn sharply enough in time to evade the storm and do another run etc. Since they are unfamiliar with Arrakis, it makes sense. They got caught in the storms wind stream/vortex and couldn't maneuver out of it. You see them trying to turn out of it but they've already lost control

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

4:08 Wallpaper material!

[@sharonishere]

99% of this movie is Wallpaper material. Rest are credits.

[@HoliGallistur1023]

What about 2:37

[@sbraypaynt]

Apart from just listening to the script (and obvious fact of who you’re looking at)I love the camera work staying consistent with where the attacks are coming from. By default our brains are working to see North as straight ahead of us when we watch this. So when we see Stilgar and the worms a lot of the shots are soldiers and worms moving left to right, so we know they are coming from the West. When the Fedaykin pop up, the camera tracks from right to left so we know they are coming from the east. And when we see Paul he is walking towards the Emperor’s Hutment but also walking towards us, so we know he is coming from the North. It seems really obvious but subtle stuff like this is so important in ensuring the editing of the battle doesn’t suck and we can actually keep track of the action when so many things are going on. GODDAMN I LOVE THIS FILM.

[@peedypxblo]

I love the scene where Paul yells freedom to the fighters, then the nuke erupts & he’s standing there menacingly.

[@MerchantIvoryfilms]

Not since Mad Max Furry Road has their been a film i went to see over and over again in theaters! That was so much fun! Thank you to the cast, crew and WB executives for making something worth my time and money!

[@davevd9944]

A somebody who loves Fury road so much I wish you well and goodluck when you go out to watch Fursio and her feature movie...Owh boy that's going to be shit.

[@ammanbansal2265]

Paul's message to the Emperor on the scroll: I GOTTA HAVE MORE COWBELL, SHADDAM IV.

[@natedagreat19]

The Sardaukar were like: “IT’S AN ALASKAN BULL WORMMMMMMM!!”

[@KRAKOA889]

3:07 Sandworms: TODAY IS A BUFFET!

[@BoyBoy-ju7rm]

The only scene that's disappoint me, wishing war sequence is longer for about 5-10 mins since 2 hours of build up, wants to see Paul slaughter Sadaukar army like nothing.

[@prakhyatsingh263]

Well I think it was budget management

[@adriannn1180]

yeah... was a bit short... at least add a 5-10 second scene of maybe a overhead view of paul and the other fremen army pushing towards the emperor... felt a bit short

[@MrAndyFlick]

At least the scene was longer than the little glimpse of the battle we actually get on the book.

[@TekkaSage]

Feels like we got to see more than we did in the 1984 movie.

[@anthonymartell9880]

I do understand what you’re saying but he DID slaughter the Sardaukar army.

[@DatGuyWithNoName]

3:56 Is the single greatest shot of any Sci-Fi film I have ever seen. How did they do 99% of the things in this movie.

[@georgeofhamilton]

Funny how the ornithopters flew right into the sandstorm for no reason, though.

[@hithere2741]

@@georgeofhamiltonI think someone said something about the sandstorms vortex?

[@chazboxzero]

They shot on location on Dune.

[@Servellion]

One thing that this scene really highlights is just how fucking fast the worms are. Yeah we know that they're fast but here when put in perspective of the fleeing Sardaukar soldiers, humans in peak condition....there's no escaping these things conventianally.

[@MikMoen]

The acrobatic takedowns the Fremen do are astounding.

[@agus_rmz]

2:03 no puedo describir lo que sentí en esta escena. Fue algo épico, una combinación perfecta Lisan Al-Gaib

[@cliffbooth4826]

me llamo roberto

[@alwincamitz4747]

Blood for the blood god skulls for the skullthrone in the glory of corne

[@Mr.KyleRichey]

For me this fight always reminds me of that Bane quote from Dark Knight Rises “victory has defeated you” the Sardukars haven’t faced a legitimate challenger in years, and now they face real warriors on their home terf, that’s why they get absolutely slaughtered by the Freman, they aren’t prepared for an enemy that actually poses a threat

[@rorickos]

This shot of Chani at 4:49 beautifully echoes a pivotal moment from part one, where Paul envisions a scene remarkably similar to this battle. The resemblance between Paul's vision and Chani's movements highlights the uncanny accuracy of his prescience, albeit with a subtle variation. This parallel underscores how Paul's visions consistently align with reality, reminiscent of how Jamis imparts desert wisdom to him.

[@MalakianM2S]

Of all the things missing in Villanueve's version Saint Alia of the knife is the one I miss the most.

[@johnathangordon8935]

her and harah

[@MalakianM2S]

@@johnathangordon8935 For me is her and the lack of presence of the Spacing Guild, we got a glimpse of them in the first one though. Don't get me wrong, I adore this iteration, I just miss some things.

[@TBonerism]

I haven't read the books, but I understand the significance of the Dune series and the influence it has had on Sci-fi as a genre. When I saw the visuals of this movie, I was slightly emotional because it felt like there was an appropriate amount of work put into making the visuals look real and unique. It got the important treatment and I am so glad it is something I got to see.

[@MrBendylaw]

Bob the Sardaukar: "Did you know they could ride sandworms?" Fred the Sardaukar: "No, no I did not. We seem to have not been debriefed on that by our incredibly elite commanders and ruling classes." Bob: "Nope."

[@Gwydion_Wolf]

Harkonen / Emperor: We have tanks, Planes and Space-superiority! Fremen: We have the one thing on this planet you fear.

[@Alastair_]

Seeing this in the cinema, the sounds.. fantastic experience.

[@WestSideGorilla1980]

Meanwhile the worms are screaming "those are our kills!".

[@letingrad]

Chauni the tip of the spear!! curious thing the the fight sequence ends as Paul saw in the vision in part 1, no worm but the explosion to the throne, very nice indeed.

[@eanna3781]

THANK YOU! I thought I was crazy because I found it really interesting that Channi takes Paul's place in his earlier vision, AND I SAW NO ONE ELSE MENTIONING IT

[@eragon4249]

I know battle/war scenes are crazy expensive in movies, but I would have loved for this to be 10 minutes longer. It's already perfect, I just want more of it😂😂

[@chantjelly6773]

Even in the book this battle is extremely short, I think it doesn't even fill one page. The fremen completely overpower them with sheer force. I would have loved for Dennis to deviate from the source material for the sake of more action lol

[@MrAlexx1337]

@@chantjelly6773I hope that we’ll get more of action in the next movie

[@chantjelly6773]

@@MrAlexx1337 the second book has almost no action at all. There is one scene in messiah of a nuclear explosion (stone burner) that might look good on film. If Nolan's oppenheimer has shown us anything, it's that a movie with lots of dialogue and one nuclear explosion can interest people, so I have hope for dune messiah 😂

[@MrAlexx1337]

@@chantjelly6773 I think that Villeneuve at the end of the second film moved sufficiently away from the book source, and in the third part there will only be some individual motifs from the second book

[@MrKernkraft4000]

I can't even put into words what a massive free for all melee that must have (would have been) with that many charging each other on both sides. A fight like that must have been devastating for both sides in terms of casualties.

[@TheBigExclusive]

Well it was a few hundred thousand Sardaukar VS a few million Fremen. The Sardaukar had no chance. Too outnumbered.

[@hazardeur]

@@TheBigExclusiveyou dont even know how a "few" hundred thousand would look. it would be massive and in the movie it looks more like maybe a hundred thousand at most, if even that

[@koko40800]

@@hazardeur Those weren't all the Sardaukar, just the ones Chani's contingent were attacking....remember Stilgar was also mowing down Sardaukar with Shai Hulud in another direction...and Paul and his fundamentalists were hacking the s**t out of the other Sardaukar, coming from yet another direction

[@georgeofhamilton]

But not a single Fremen died on screen in this battle.

[@tmnj1495]

@@georgeofhamiltonat this point it’s almost like their god’s chosen army…even Duncan Idaho himself said one of them nearly killed him. And he was the deadliest fighter in the Atreides army. So you put that with bene gesserit weirding way shit. A dude who is omnipotent that can see ALL futures at once, as well as the harsh environment the fremen were in…they were on a completely different level than the feared saudaker..

[@jacek460]

I love how short the battle really was compared to scenes such as the Siege of Minas Tirith. Really goes to show what an overwhelming force the Fremen are.

[@fergalosanchez7675]

This wasn’t a battle this was an actual slaughter, far worse than the surprise attack on the Atreides lol

[@tranz2deep]

Kind of the point. Paul doesn't just see ahead, Mau'dib sees more than the Now... he's got a long memory.

[@koko40800]

That's right the Sardaukar came to commit genocide, and got genocided lol...literally massacred to the last man, on the sands of Arrakis

[@marclaprade1306]

The Sardaukar were forged through the crucible of survival on a prison planet, but that pales in comparison to Arrakis where only fanatical faith can keep you alive. Convicts with swords vs Zealots with worms...

[@tranz2deep]

As Frank wrote, Mau'dib informs the Imperial court that "It is written that God created Arrakis to train the faithful; one cannot go against the will of God."

[@rr-sp5ii]

Nah it's because Paul can see many different futures so he can pick the best plan of action. It's like a cheat code. Before Paul the freman couldn't even beat the Harkonnen.

[@sentientmustache8360]

@@rr-sp5iibut it is stated in both films and in the book that the average Fremen warrior outclasses a Sardaukar

[@rr-sp5ii]

@sentientmustache8360 the Atredis certainly think so, they express this opinion in both the book and movies. It is also said in the book and movies that the Harkonnen do not think the Freeman to be a threat at all. Seeing as how the Freeman couldn't beat the Harkonnen for 80 yrs while having a numerical advantage it would seem like the Harkonnen would be the correct in believing they weren't a serious threat. The Harkonnen were very afraid of the Sardukar but beat the Freeman for 80 yrs in warfare. So I tend to think that the Harkonnen point of view was more correct than the Atredis one. The Freeman only won when they used Paul's visions of the future but in reality any army knowing the best possible way to win the battle ahead of time would have won that battle against the sardukar.

[@tranz2deep]

@@rr-sp5ii Actually, the Harkonnen were blind to the Fremen to the point they never even knew how many nor how widespread they were, all with covert support by the Guild who had no interest in their down-low spice supply getting interrupted. I have no idea how much of the "smuggling" of spice went directly to the Guild but I know this; it was a significant amount!

[@nielslassen5220]

So happy to have witnessed this in Cinema.

[@Beefonweck]

I cant believe they're making a part 3. Dune really goes off the rails in the 2nd book, and we realize that Paul was actually the villain the whole time.

[@lofibeat474]

Damn man spoilers

[@privatename5788]

@@lofibeat474 Nah, he's pulling your leg. If you believe everything you read on the internet, then you'll fall for the guy who tells you that Paul's son merges with a worm to become the immortal tyrant emperor of mankind, and that he keeps resurrecting Duncan Idaho over and over for thousands of years.

[@tesshunter8777]

@@privatename5788 bro

[@Graystaff]

Yeah, and he would have gotten away with it too if it weren’t for those meddling kids!!

[@THEmetopholus]

​@@lofibeat474don t care, it s a troll

[@Kokochops76]

I wish this fighting scene was longer. It seemed too short. Spent too much time building the Feyd-Rautha charater.

[@breadtoast1036]

a pure one sided battle, sardaukar are pretty damn tough but they just walked into what is essentially a suicide planet for anyone but fremen with their current universal combat culture

[@Based_Gigachad_001]

This movie is everything star wars should be.

[@thirdworldrider6991]

all that huge set and extras and we get 2 minutes of seeing it

[@hlaine5634]

Who else have some golden company wipes here? 😅

[@georgeofhamilton]

Turns out D&D were actually geniuses.

[@daveysaturn7232]

Yeah, this is one of the most badass films ever made. It's astonishing

[@sebastianheeger1663]

I thought the sardoukar will charge strait on and fight to the death

[@milotura6828]

they are obsessive not fanatics hh

[@Meyr3356]

When presented with an enemy they can actually fight, they do. But sand worms are a very different story.

[@koko40800]

@@Meyr3356 Attacking/swallowing Sand Worms, AFTER being stunned and dazed by an atomic blast....I don't care if you're Fkng Iron Man you're running for your life after that combination lol

[@BuckDanny2314]

The book states the sight of the sandworms instilled terror in the heart of the Sardaukar, for the first time in their history.

[@IndieAuthorX]

Creatures the size of the Sears tower about to run you over, it broke their brainwashing.

[@Xecnalxes]

"But my lord, there is no such force." 2:00

[@jakeg3733]

Standing that close to an atomic explosion (even a "small" tactical one like this), plus staring directly into the detonation, would be a terrible idea. Paul would be blind and heavily irradiated. Besides that this is a badass sequence

[@JeroenDStout]

Well we wouldn't want Paul blind ofc

[@Avarice0918]

they're 8000 years in the future they likely have a lot of changes to atomics that don't involve heavy amounts of radioactive material

[@johnson7156]

Generally speaking fusion bomb has way less radiation than a fission bomb. I would also imagine they can somehow achieve fusion without fission with futuristic technology. Which will make it not leaving high concentration radioactive materials.

[@hexagon2185]

@@JeroenDStout Yeah, that could never happen…

[@peternguyen1911]

What would Paul do if he was blind?

[@kevinc6738]

Timothee and zendaya killed tf out their roles as Paul & Chani

[@aemiliadelroba4022]

Wow 🤩 ❤❤❤

[@-shingod-4818]

really love when fremen emerge from the sand and just straight run as fast as they can

[@VJamrita]

Bless the maker and his water

[@tehjefey]

Wonder if he ever figured out that it was Gaius who orchestrated the genocide of house Atreides on Arrakis? (Even with the emperor already uneasy with how popular the duke was in the landsraad.)

[@Stitchman3875]

The explosions in the dust cloud were amazing.

[@ballbby3775]

Man i love that shot at 3:34, so cool seeing the dude riding one and then u see the other worms with their riderd parallel to him. Such a awesome shot.

[@TrollArtist666]

It was criminal making this scene so short

[@AugieRockero]

In the last movie, nobody even went to the terlet without their shields. I assume that because of the worms coming through there was no shield usage at the end on the ground. So why do I see some Harkonnens using them as Duncan slices them up?

[@Aenarion_Godslayer]

Because it's safe to use within the foretress. Remember in the first movie, the Sardaukars, Atreides and Harkonnens were all using their shields, even spaceships.

[@AugieRockero]

In that case, why aren't the remaining Sardaukar defending the Emperor, the Emperor himself, or anyone else inside with him using shields at the very end? The Baron didn't even bother to activate his shields when Paul finished him off

[@Aenarion_Godslayer]

@@AugieRockero Every Sardaukars outside were in combat ready formation. They all died because of the Fremen, those inside died as well, offscreen though. You just can't fit a whole legion in the Throne Room, for all we know, there was sardaukars before the gates. About the shields, it made no differences at this point, the Fremen would prevail, with or without shields against them. For the Baron, we had a shot of the camera on his left hand shaking, where on his ring there's his shield activator, that we see being in used in part one, when he's approaching a naked and under drugged Leto in the.... Dinner room I guess. We clearly saw before and after Paul's coming into the Emperor's Throne Room, the Baron was left in shock due to his loss of levitation, and willing to thrive for power (he tried to reach the throne despite his state).

[@DenDave_]

Wish they fleshed out the battle scenes a bit more. It felt a bit anti-climactic this way, particularly the Sardaukar being killed offscreen when theyre supposed to be the best in the galaxy.

[@CM-jc7gk]

Ah wow almost like it's making a point about the prophecy of "desert power" 🤔🤔

[@Borojxnn]

Yes the sardaukar are a problem and demons to the other houses but compared to the fremen the sardaukar fails in comparison especially since in the books they fear the worms. The fremen are zealous fanatics that out class them and kill billions in their jihad. I cannot wait for the third movie and more if they continue to adapt the books.

[@IronBoulder]

I don't recall anyone looking this badass in a cape since Darth Vader.

[@choysakanto6792]

Basically the 2021 Fall of Afghanistan in a nutshell

[@DOGSDOGGER]

2:24 anyone else notice that Paul shows up twice in this shot?

[@morganbrown392]

I like to think the bombs were in the air that long. He walked and then power posed before impact.

[@Mixam-256]

Holy fuck that’s dope editing. Didn’t notice that, such a good transition.

[@vonn4017]

he can be many places at once

[@a.j.1819]

@@morganbrown392Kwisatz Haderach literally translates to „being in two places at once“

[@rophiamphu1669]

That's one giant pokemon ball at 1:5😂😂

[@harleyb7880]

Lol someone mention it😂

[@spacecowboyz0154]

Yknow, I haven't see a scifi space movie do this with spaceships..Entering the atmosphere like a real life ship sooo it's fascinating they do this little irl detail

[@NguyenMinh-vs1vm]

@@spacecowboyz0154Avatar: Way of The Water has a scene like it at the beginning, except cooler.

[@josho7138]

There should have been a shield

[@gargoyles9999]

@@josho7138it should’ve been a Cowbell

[@barricadedpurifier]

I really like the atomics scene. It’s my second favorite part. Sand worms ofc my absolute favorite.

[@wrath7646]

One of the best final battles of all time

[@MIII96]

3 hrs of movie... 5 min of battle

[@marcpeterson1092]

the battle scenes are less important.

[@richardtaylor1652]

​@@marcpeterson1092I mean do we need a 15min sequence of the Fedaykin using the Sardaukar as training dummies? The Dune films are all about 'less is more' and I feel the battles have a bigger impact because we see so little. It still conveys the point, the Sardaukar are absolutely out of their depth when dealing with a combination of atomics, sandworms and fanatical battle hardened warriors who fight like the devil and move like the wind.

[@roachdoggjr419]

Absolute baby brain bro grow up

[@codywalden7105]

@@richardtaylor1652 I disagree. The fact that Dune lacks an epic battle at the end of the movie is the reason why it will never be as good as Lord of The Rings. This movie really needed a third act epic battle with stakes involved, kind of similar to Avatar 1 or Rogue One. And then this movie would have been PERFECT. But since the final battle was a brief massacre instead, the movie quality has been knocked down a few points.

[@Notfakeultra]

And in the book the “battle” is less than a page. People need to understand the sarduakar really do not even put up a fight in the book, it’s quite literally a massacre

[@saylo8796]

How did Chani and the fedaykins get there so fast?

[@roneyandrade6287]

Dessert power

[@jakeg3733]

​@@roneyandrade6287Never underestimate the power of a delicious dessert

[@VictorIV0310]

Desert tunnel network, I guess?

[@cwtjones]

​@@VictorIV0310maybe this is the most logical answer. I was thinking why would they hide under the sand.

[@LisaAnn777]

Leprechauns?

[@ryancampbell5039]

The feeling of seeing this in IMAX cannot be replicated. The visuals, sounds, action, etc. It was an out of body experience.

[@venom18s]

I’m so glad I saw this in theaters. This scene is awesome watching it back but holy shit it was an unreal experience in IMAX.

[@benresnicoff3286]

unpopular opinion: this "climax" was more like falling action. Great cinematography, score, and pretty epic, but far too rushed. This whole movie actually felt rushed and way too long at the same time. Also, Tomato Calamari and Zendaya's chemistry was just not convincing throughout

[@LudenTr]

I think you're wrong but "Tomato calamari" is just .. perfection.

[@ADI-dp3bp]

I actually wanted 10 more minutes of action in the climax. Why cant Denis do proper action sequences instead of montages 😭😭😭😭

[@morganbrown392]

Zandaya was fucking those troops up. They should have given her more fight scenes.

[@costco_pizza]

Oh come on!!! You expect me to believe a bunch of desert rats living in caves would be a match for the feared Sardaukar!? Come on now!

[@bricktop9486]

​@@costco_pizzaNice try with the burner account, Shaddam.

[@anhduchoang5880]

@@costco_pizza even in novel, your Sardaukars was beaten by old man, women, children in Sietch Tabr, Shaddam. 3 battalions, got beaten by bunch of people 🤡

[@costco_pizza]

Oh come on!!! Guys!!! Come on now, I don't believe a word of this!

[@Randoman590]

​@@costco_pizza Yes. The Sardaukar, up until now, were widely BELIEVED to be the greatest warriors in the galaxy. They believed this because they did not know who the Fremen truly are. Thufir deduced that the Sardaukar are so good BECAUSE they come from a planet with extremely hostile conditions, where only the strong survive, and that planet must be Salusa Secundus. His second great deduction: Arrakis is even worse.

[@ronalddepesa6221]

3:18 absolutely awesome

[@diegowushu]

The "coming out from under the sand to full sprint" goes really hard.

[@Miafunfactory]

Better than the death star thing.. There, said it

[@Ellis_Hugh]

As good as this movie was, I thought the final battle was somewhat anti-climactic. It was over way too quickly, we saw almost nothing of it and at no time did we think there was any real challenge to begin with. MUCH worse, was Paul just casually telling the Fremen - none of whom have any familiarity with the controls or workings of a space ship, much less space combat, to jump into a bunch of space ships they've never seen and go engage in a massive space battle with the veteran troops of all the houses of the Landsraad... the film was excellent, but I felt like they dropped the ball at the end with an overly rushed finish.

[@tsopmocful1958]

Agree.

[@dkchen]

I find it interesting how fast the Emperor deployed and setup his forces once landing.

[@FoxMan777]

Love that Paul uses the nukes on the shield wall even though nukes are generally accepted as forbidden in combat. Using it against dirt and stone rather than an enemy is merely construction work (deconstruction in this case). :D

[@nosakus]

It's horribly rushed. Awesome and all.. but just way too rushed. I understand why he may had to do it this way. But Lynch made it all under two hours and the tempo felt right.

[@costco_pizza]

Two EVENLY matched KILLING machines going at it against each other! Who knows how many countless Fremen the Sardaukar carved up before finally being overwhelmed by them?! Incredible fight!

[@PrinceAzura]

It generally wasnt very even matched. 1 fremen could typically handle 5-10 sardukar

[@Forerunner2]

@@PrinceAzurafacts. The Fedaykin themselves were superior to the Sardaukar before the fanaticism of Paul’s rise, let alone the added religious fervor after it. The Sardaukar were elite, the Fremen were better.

[@costco_pizza]

Oh come on guys!!! You guys expect me to believe a bunch of desert rats would have been a match for the feared and dreaded Sardaukar!? Come on now! Let's be realistic here!!!

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

They were never evenly matched. In the first scene we see the Fremen and the Sardukar, the Fremen trade at almost 5:1. And that was with shields. This wasn't a war it was a massacre.

[@costco_pizza]

Oh come on!!! You guys really expect me to believe that!? Come on!!

[@rylomarylo]

Good cut my boy stefan

[@essanance]

I love how it mirrors his dream but it's her face you see when she turns ...

[@TrueFaith94]

The editing of these scenes together is terrible

[@KHN.RVA.28]

It has to cut the way it does so it can actually download

[@thetony5474]

Meh…8/10 for me because there’s no sweet 80s guitar riff track to accompany this ☺️

[@DeepEye1994]

No argument there I unironically would fancy a fan edit that puts in Toto's score

[@The_SSSlopper]

No 🥰

[@Garvin285]

​​@@DeepEye1994 Please 🫠D 😊 [] 😮 €🤭 Thanks

[@MrVlad12340]

The only big issue i have with that battle is how the fliers went all the way into the sandstorm, instead of trying to avoid it.

[@tranz2deep]

Honestly? If I were the one commanding the rocket troopers on those worms I'd have told them to target the fliers that seemed smart enough not to fly into the storm. Fremen are fanatics, but they aren't stupid and they surely know "Desert power". The remaining fliers were too green to know that power and they paid the price for it.

[@markusszelbracikowski956]

I was completely caught off guard when the first explosion happens. Such a visceral warning that literally shook the emperor and everyone around him. It could have been the last and final blow if Paul so desired, it was terrifyingly awesome and basically determined how the battle was going to be.

[@punchtalestudio]

I dozed off

[@Serby665]

Yes, I am a big bad emperor, smart enough to rule the entire Galaxy, and have the most dangerous army there is. Let me park all my ships and bases super exposed in the middle of enemy territory, in an effin desert, with no cover or anything. Oh, and I have no air patrol, and like to keep all of my aerial supermacy ships parked in a near expose line. And I have no armor, nor artillery, nor rockets. And I have no scouting, surveillance, etc. And I have no anti air defense. Yay, me and my super stronk army of disposable sardines which are killed off screen. How the hell did we end up ruling anything?

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

Because they weren't fighting an entire planet's worth of zealots led by a demigod.

[@leonidfro8302]

>> and have the most dangerous army there is. Emperor wasn't ruled by force, but by agreement among great houses. Also, it was point of the trap emperor assumed that baron have things under control >> Oh, and I have no air patrol, and like to keep all of my aerial supermacy ships parked in a near expose line. Says who? Planed was under constant surveillance, but Navigator's Guild was bribed. >> And I have no armor, nor artillery, nor rockets. Save for nuclear weapons, all those would be ineffective against worms (per book). And generally speaking, guerilla tactics works. See Iraq/Afghanistan for modern-day references.

[@valtterivalo]

It's just fantasy is the easiest answer to your questions. Not everything can be even remotely logical.

[@arcticwulf5796]

Paul can see the future, so basically he sees that the emperor won't leave. In the book during the worst sand storm in history that takes out the shields. In the movie nukes are used and Paul uses them like a dude who has seen every possible outcome of the battle.

[@weenercarguy4100]

Theres just nothing they could have done but listen to his lead Sardaukars and fly back into orbit The entire planet of fighting abled Fremen were there, they probably had so much stolen tech

[@vitalixy3578]

I love how you can see the Atreides flag charging into battle, despite House Atreides having been murdered, you still see the flag being carried by people that are not even Atreides, it is as if it became a symbol of something more, came back from death for revenge.

[@yujx0401]

Paul just made all the Fremens fight for HIM and his cause, adopt his culture waving the Atreides flags. Just like what his "vision" leads him to inflict what becomes of the reality: "It's coming. I see a holy war spreading across the universe like unquenchable fire. A warrior religion waving the Atreides banner in my father's name. Fanatical legions worshipping at the shrine of my father's skull. A war in my name. Everyone shouting my name."

[@lukewhatidid1735]

I love how the emperor is just so done with the ATREIDES