Dust Test: Beretta M92A1 / M9

We dust test the venerable Beretta M92A1 / M9.
Apologies for the wind noise.
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[@Legman688]

"What did we learn today, class?" "The value of a flap holster."

[@InrangeTv]

True.

[@luckybassturd7260]

@@InrangeTv have/will you test, loading one round at a time with non working mag? Has anyone in battle reported ,loading the m9 manually thru the open slide? People seem 100% sure, no one will be able to load thru open slide in SHTF or war!

[@chemusvandergeek1209]

Yep, but that only mitigates holstered use cases; if the dust is in the air when unholstered, then I expect that the dust issue will rear is head.

[@thereallogus4174]

@@chemusvandergeek1209 Not as much as you would think. I was in the dustiest part of Iraq during dust season and as long as my pistol was dry and I stored my mags upside down, my flap holster was enough to keep things going fine.

[@mikef3808]

@@thereallogus4174 the vast majority of the time, firearms are being carried/stored on body and not in use. Although the flap holster is slow, it is far more protective than a lot of the competition rigs that guys run. Those don't protect anything. But, it would be interesting to see if those guns need that protection in the first place (Glock, P320 etc.)

[@OlrikMeister]

Mom: "what are you watching" Me: "jesus leafblowing dust onto a pistol"

[@Psiberzerker]

Or dust-busting it?

[@2wheeleddemon999]

@@nope8535 I think the mother understood

[@McChimperson]

I don't remember that part of the bible

[@tacticalwarfare8413]

Mom: what are you watching Me: porn Mom: WTF Me: Gun porn mom

[@alastair852]

“[Music]” No, Automated Captions, that is not music, that is a leaf blower.

[@fletcherreder6091]

I guess it likes noise music.

[@ArcChain]

Darude Sandstorm?

[@CaptinJangles]

Given the direction music is going give it 20 years. Just ahead of its time.

[@proteus2103]

@@fletcherreder6091 So you're saying that because I use a leaf blower at my job, I can put musician on my resume?

[@fletcherreder6091]

@@proteus2103 Yes.

[@boredandagitated]

Something about a leaf blower out in the desert is incredibly hilarious to me.

[@an_ordinary_goose]

Gotta relocate all that sand somehow.

[@moosemaimer]

Archaeologist uncovers relic of lost civilization- 1907, colorized

[@proteus2103]

@@moosemaimer I would have loved to hear the phone conversation of them ordering one of those. ...."You want a what?"

[@born_2cook]

I was just thinking that. I think Ian drove through state lines to buy one.

[@Jay-ln1co]

It's in case the Canadians decide to be sneaky and attack from the South.

[@jumpy_bunny686]

According to my research, that is in fact military grade dust

[@soylentgreen7074]

I do you a better deal. Imma need about tree fiddy.

[@homersaypian3798]

This is just training dust, combat dust is finer and tasteless.

[@ByLandandSeaArms]

@@homersaypian3798 Combat dust is not flavorless... My last deployment was in 2010 and from time to time I still cough up stuff and can identify where it was from by the taste. Rawah dirt tasted different than Hadditha. Al Qaim tasted different than Hit. And nothing tasted like Nasariah...

[@nates9536]

"Here's 5 rounds" *fires 10* "Gun Jesus be praised!"

[@alastair852]

Nathan Stevenson regular Jesus multiplies bread and fish, Gun Jesus multiplies bullets. He can also turn water into gun oil.

[@CocoTehQuila]

@@alastair852 you mean wd-40

[@ihcfn]

The miracle of the feeding of the M92A1!

[@homersaypian3798]

Amen

[@slowpokebr549]

or would that be ammunition Hanukkah

[@clonemarine1]

You should give the leaf blower a more science-y, technical name. Like, "Firearm Failure State Inducer", or something.

[@DerichndofCoomland]

M-2A2 Firearm Failure State Inducer (M-1 would be the stationary model...the wheelbarrow with mud). M-2A1 would be the compressor they used for the dust test on rifles.

[@dragonstormdipro1013]

Blow-minator 3000

[@niemand1445]

But they have to say it with a finnish accent

[@Gerrygambone]

@@Hosenfuhrer replace gasoline for petrol

[@Nolimitation1]

Pneumatic medium agitator.

[@ryanvargas4889]

That blower didn’t jam once!

[@theeasternfront6436]

True, but it still blows.....

[@slowpokebr549]

That is a damn fine pseudo Iraq you've created.

[@Easy-Eight]

Pseudo Iraq.... I'll remember that the next time while driving through Arizona.

[@arthurhargrove9751]

I would be interested to see this test using the "Sand Resistant" magazines from Beretta. My understanding is the Mecgar mags do not have the same PVD coating.

[@Sidekick_Snowman]

I came down here to suggest that. I'm interested in seeing this test as well.

[@boredandagitated]

This would be an interesting data point

[@1804unclesam]

I have a M9a3 with the “sand resistant” PVD coated mags. I’d definitely be interested to see if it makes a difference.

[@-Seeker-]

Yep. Test would be much more conclusive if they used the Beretta PVD coated mags.

[@lon242]

I'm doubting the sand-resistant mag would do much to help sand getting in from the gun's many ingress points. Seems like it got super crusty from the gaps along the barrel, not to mention, in the EXPOSED, OSCILLATING WEDGE LOCKING SYSTEM

[@IPostSwords]

I'm glad you're doing more dust test. Mud tests are valuable, especially in the historical context of trenches, but dust is also very relevant with modern conflicts. The M9 is a great pairing to that concept

[@ronhmclaughlin]

It's an M9A1, there are a few in US military service. The problem was the magazine finish caused ammunition to bind or not feed during loading/feeding. Defective magazine were issued prior 02/2004. These mags were made by Checkmate and Airtronics, they were replaced with OEM "Sand magazines" and later Checkmates with a smooth finish

[@509Gman]

Ron Mclaughlin ... and defective mags were still in widespread circulation in 2010, ala me and other vets.

[@Motoboo_Marine]

@@509Gman Got out last year, still in widespread circulation. Problem is people aren't throwing them away the same way they do bad rifle mags. Unless it's visibly dented or something, they tend to just go back into the pile.

[@deadextra]

I would also like to see if replacing the magazine with a clean one will solve the issues, since that's the next step after remedial action. Sure you're down a mag but if that does the trick it's not a complete failure.

[@ronhmclaughlin]

thgreatandini don't doubt it when I did an armory laying out prior to taking command they laid out boxes of mags and about 1/3 had bad painted or scratched into them.

[@hakari5014]

It's not M9A1, it's 92A1.

[@jamesmattimore3984]

I once was impressed with all the gear you got to work with.... now I'm just impressed that you desert dwellers have an industrial sized leaf blower. Never a disedious tree in sight but a massive leaf blower . LOL

[@12theman345]

I did wonder why they have a leaf blower.

[@LUR1FAX]

@@12theman345 To dust test of course.

[@BarrowX]

Could be for getting sand of a driveway i guess.

[@509Gman]

12theman345 the landscaping kimosabes don’t want to bend down after they trim your desert tree any more than you do (unintended euphemism).

[@richardlinneman594]

The Mag is the reason on two tours in Iraq, I found a blued mag and carried it personally for my M9, and kept the issued mags in my pouch. I found the phosphate type finish on the issue mags was a dust collector. I also carried three P-mags for the M16 , I liked having mags I know worked, and not relying on issue mags for my first few mags.

[@QueenDerpy]

"That sounds crusty" - Ian Mcallum - 2019

[@rlb3418]

I love these dust tests! Dust is arguably more common and difficult to avoid than heavy mud, and it really shows what designs do a great job creating a sealed system. Excellent work!

[@jayzenitram9621]

Given that the mag appears to be the weak point, I would have liked to see them eject the dusty mag, insert a new one, and test fire it. That's what one would do in the field, isn't it?

[@luckybassturd7260]

yes~ & the Beretta`s open topped slide makes loading one round at a time, easy compared to most other handguns! That is a great SHTF/WAR feature that shouldn't be over looked! they said this gun was not useable be cause of magazine was bad? but the gun works fine if you load one round at a time! i`d love to see a test, load a M1911, M17 & M9 with out a mag & fire a round, then repeat 5 times to see the total time splits!

[@borkborkfoxxo279]

@@luckybassturd7260 your comment indicates to me you have never experienced war from anywhere except your armchair. Which is cool, but your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

[@genericfakename8197]

@@borkborkfoxxo279 I disagree about the "cool" part but he really should feel bad

[@luckybassturd7260]

@@borkborkfoxxo279... you are correct , That feature is overlooked but it has been talked about by other more professional people than myself... i would not have known about it otherwise! maybe I'll have to test it & compare loading a glock, 1911, beretta m9 with non functioning mag & no mag to see if my opinion & hearsay is true...

[@proteus2103]

@@luckybassturd7260 That's the opposite of reliable as far as a military issued sidearm goes.

[@anthonyroughton4794]

Sand is probably getting in the mag from the barrel, because there is no round chambered. Sand is going down the feed ramp like a funnel.

[@MurphyTheBandChild]

Now do the M9's replacement.

[@alexanderm8880]

I second this.

[@AM-hf9kk]

And predecessor!

[@alexanderm8880]

@@AM-hf9kk Trying this test with a 1911 would be interesting. I know it didn't do well in mud but I also wonder if a newer 1911 would do better due to its tighter tolerances.

[@mrlucky5025]

I concur. Do the M17 and the 1911.

[@Ramian1]

Random passerby: "We are in a desert, why would you need a leafblower?!" Karl and Ian: "we're testing guns!" "Oookay...." Random passerby backs slowly away

[@moosemaimer]

*AIR GUN*

[@tucker1012]

FOR SCIENCE

[@JenniferinIllinois]

And the patented InRange leaf blower is back.

[@dragonstormdipro1013]

Local gangsters try to hide their assault weapons from alphabet boys, colourized 2019

[@RyoLeo]

Dragonstorm Dipro alphabet boys? Is that a nickname for cops? If so that’s actually really funny

[@dragonstormdipro1013]

@@RyoLeo More like ATF and FBI, but yeah cops in general

[@costasmandylor7252]

That is why Beretta introduced the sand-resistant magazine with the M9A1 purchased by the USMC.

[@deepbludreams]

Sand Resistant mags are WAY older then that, all of these early mags where recalled in 2004, all M9s in service since have had the "Sand Resistant" type that makes what they see here a non issue.

[@ttm8704]

@@deepbludreams I was actually looking for some more information about this considering where the US military has been in recent years, has there been a lot of discussion about M9s being unreliable in the desert or as you mentioned, the issues I see in the video aren't accurate for US personnel because of the products you and Costas mentioned?

[@deepbludreams]

@@ttm8704 It's pretty much myth in general, the big picture view of the combat handgun is that it's never used. As far as I know as it stands, the number of enemy combatants dispatched with handguns during the entire occupation is under 5. Handguns in a military sense frankly don't get used anyways, the sand resistant mags are just from very limited data on training malfunctions, not real world use.

[@Poorgeniu5]

*Next video* : "Dust Test: USFA Zip 22"

[@MrSinny]

"So we're to fire off a few shots to show it's worki... Oh wait..."

[@kennethkeh8432]

Any chance you guys could do this with the sand resistant beretta magazines?

[@marclowe724]

"I'm Ian with Forgotten Weapons. Today I'm going to be taking a look at one of the early weaponized leaf blowers that saw service in the late 20th century."

[@andrewwaterman9240]

Very interesting video with some exemplary muzzle discipline shown by Karl.

[@bryanengland2466]

Love these tests but on the rifles you switch to a fresh mag to make sure it's the gun and not the mag causing the issue. I would liked to have seen that just to see if the locking recesses were causing issues with the feeding too.

[@magoid]

Indeed. I don't know why they didn't change the mag for a clean one.

[@taccovert4]

I know that they wanted to specifically test the Mecgar mag since that mag supposedly doesn't have the same problem as the USGI mags. However, I agree that they should have also just swapped in a clean USGI mag and tried as well to make sure that it's not the slide being sluggish but rather the magazine that's the problem.

[@509Gman]

But at the same time, the standard pistol loadout is two plus one mags that have been subjected to the same treatment as the host gun. A “clean” mag is no guarantee. Any day your life or death outcome is determined by a secondary weapon like a pistol is a shitty one indeed. Take it from someone who knows (and was fortunate).

[@Snubrevolver]

Didn't seem like they wanted to give it a chance

[@MichaelBakowski]

Ian is so contented with firearms at this point that he’s more excited about using a leaf blower at 5:00 than Karl shooting right next to him at 1:20

[@texas-raider]

It would be very interesting to see you do the same test with the M9's biggest competitor, the Sig MK 25 (P226).

[@Troy665Z]

Damn Ian, I love your channels so much! I'll never forget the video where you field stripped a 1919 browning and some other French lmg, it blew my mind

[@stupidmonkey3866]

I will never be able to have enough of karls sassyness, love you two guys thanks for the amazing content

[@masterof1]

I was an mp on the corrections side of things and I can tell you that we sometimes had the same problem even in the low stress environment of range day.

[@daleswalley7226]

If memory serves, the military looked for a more beefed up slide to quell the possibility of slide breakage and a company known as “Phobis” or “Phrobis” produced said slide which did cover both the barrel and locking block as will as being more solid to alleviate the slide breakage. Alas the military never used the new slide nor updated the locking block that Beretta did since they never updated the TDP.

[@Dani-hl3xu]

Mud tests are always so interesting Keep them coming lads

[@doomsayer7937]

Love your test videos guys. Your awesome.

[@UnclePutte]

I am glad to see more material on the M9. It is a dignified weapon.

[@jkarlsonsrv]

Nice Xixa shirt. Awesome local Tucson band. Interesting video, too.

[@nerdanderthalidontlikegoog7194]

I dropped a M9 in the sand and immediately picked it back up and continued shooting. The gun was a little too oily and sand was stuck on the barrel but it did not fail that day. I did have an unrelated failure with the same gun weeks later when a tiny piece of metal in the trigger group broke. I think it was some kind of disconnector. I received a new gun as it was not field repairable.

[@Talatharas]

love a teardown video on some of these more 'broken' weapons.. the ones that fail catastrophically... how hard and how much is in there, and if any damage shows up in the gun after

[@Guenter683]

Years back, I've done a similar test out of curiosity with my Italian 92FS and a US made commercial M9 and found that the Mec-Gar flush-fit 18 round AFC mags and the USGI parkerized check-mate mags to be even less reliable than the old factory 15 round OEM on sand - there is less clearance for debris on the Mec-Gar. I'm not a big fan of the outdated factory 15 rounders, but I had minimal issues with the improved factory M9A1 PVD coated sand resistant mags on the same test. I didn't have a chance to sand test the current factory 17-round mags. Although it probably doesn't make much of a difference, since all 92 series have the open slide design; I would point out that the Italian 92A1 shown here, along with the discontinued 90-Two has a different and unique recoil spring and buffer system over the the standard 92FS/M9/M9A1/M9A3 which may or may not cause it to behave differently than a standard M9.

[@smithjones1906]

Interesting point about the different recoil spring/buffer system. Are those components interchangeable like many of the other bits throughout the 92-series? I put a D hammer spring in my 92FS which seems fairly common, for example.

[@Guenter683]

@@smithjones1906 That's a negative, 92A1/96A1/90-Two has a captive design metal recoil rod of smaller diameter and spring to make room for a blue polymer buffer in the dust cover channel, its more crowded in there. There are aftermarket recoil spring/buffer systems that mimics some features of the 92A1/96A1 for the 92FS/M9/M9A1/M9A3 such as from Wilson Combat, although I personally find no need for them, factory fluted polymer guide rod and spring works just fine, just as military issued.

[@philips.5563]

The distinctive crease line in the side of the sand resistant mags are meant to reduce friction between the rounds and the mag body, as well as permitting small obstructions to move around the ammunition. It would be very interesting to see the new mags tested.

[@Scourgething]

I'm interested in seeing the dust/mud tested guns get cleaned. Getting an in depth look at what caused the failures and a look at just how enclosed certain parts of the gun are would be cool.

[@hornyducks4090]

would be interested to see this revisited. my 92x came with "sand resistant" magazines. don't know what makes them sand resistant over the OG mags. If they function fine it would be interesting to see if what they've done helps in any major capacity.

[@wheelndeel5472]

In the immortal words of joey diaz : SCIENCE!

[@471444a]

It's time to go DEEP Lee Syatt.

[@rickgao2969]

Needs a hummus test

[@509Gman]

In the immortal words of Thomas Dolby: she blinded me with science!

[@geronimo5537]

Yes more pistol tests! I would love to see how all the M9 variants fair against each other. Good stuff guys and yeah the Beretta m9 is like a VZ-58. Great quality and robust, but takes in dirt like air from the open design. I would also like to see a fn five seven test or battle of the revolvers.

[@williamryan1720]

I know a lot of folks want to see the M-17 tested next. And you guys should do that. But, I'd definitely like to see a test of the CZ-75 too. Really curious if the internal slide rails are a significant detriment or benefit. But as always, good work guys!

[@jackarundajiralhasari1062]

I would LOVE to see this test again using Beretta's special Sand Mags (PVD coated)

[@lanedexter6303]

Interesting! After carrying a 1911 concealed (deep concealment at work) for 40+ years, I retired and decided protecting the gun is more important than hiding it. I had a full flap holster made. That is a very good point about the UM84 holster (and other military full flaps).

[@timhahne3894]

The use of graphite powder for lubricant in dusty environments helps. I've even used a #2 pencil to coat wear surfaces. That would not have mitigated these severe conditions however. Great content as usual.

[@ronhmclaughlin]

Tim Hahne there was actual PMCS bulletin released around 03-04 specifying not to use graphite lubricant with the M16 family or weapons or the M9 because it would cause galvanic corrosion between the steel and aluminum

[@timhahne3894]

@@ronhmclaughlin Holly smokes, had never heard of that one. Thanks.

[@comradeamerican4393]

I love your videos guys keep it up

[@resolute123]

This firearm was subjected to US Army testing requirements and general passed while the M17 was not. I'm not sure how I feel about this, unless the testing requirements were less sever back in the 80s.

[@tarmaque]

I have no experience whatsoever with the Beretta 92, but I have a friend who retired from Special Forces about 5 years ago. He did multiple tours in the middle east going clear back to the first gulf war. He refers to the M9 as a hammer for tent stakes. Everyone in his unit carried Glocks with custom uppers. Make of that what you will. (He told me what "custom uppers" meant, but I don't remember the details. That was years ago.)

[@tommasomorandini1982]

It's interesting, because MAC did a series of endurance tests on various handguns, and the M9 was one of the two that did better if I recall correctly

[@jibb1451]

You guys should test the new Sig M17's the military started issuing. I am interested in how well they really perform in adverse conditions. I hear the tests for reliability were pretty lackluster with the M17's compared to other Military weapons tests before.

[@Tyrannosaurus10]

Another vote for interest in seeing how the 'Sand Resistant Magazines' perform. They're coming with the M9A1 and A3 and what they're giving us in the Marine Corps, I'm unsure if there's anything different other than the PVD coating though...

[@ronhmclaughlin]

Tyrannosaurus10 they replaced the aluminum floor plate with a polymer one.

[@royshobe6642]

Thanks for making this video

[@andrewcz8871]

@InRangeTV I agree with the assessment that the open spaces let in the debris which eventually led to mag failure. I'd be interested to see your test of a closed system gun. My Walther PPQ M2 is very sealed around the chamber area but has some small openings in the backplate that I'd possibly be worried about - or maybe not. If you get the chance, I'd love to see a video with a PPQ or PPQ M2.

[@resolute123]

SmallArmsSolutions indicated that the US military purchased cheaper magazines made by third party that was not to Beretta spec. Wasn't a fan of the M9, but for a system to work, all critical components needs to operate. I also assumed the M9s I used were 20 years old, so when it malfunctioned on me it was due to a lot of wear and tear. A lot of exposed surface area, but it did passed the Army pistol test. That says something...I suppose.

[@ronhmclaughlin]

The original sand magazine were brought from Beretta, those were later replaced by Checkmade produced ones.

[@bigghoss762]

I think it's also worth pointing out that Beretta makes "sand resistant" mags for the M9 as well as PVD coated "special duty" mags. For normal conditions the Mec-Gars are the way to go though.

[@jonskowitz]

I remember taking a lot of time keeping my M9 clean in the desert; and that the magazines did not like being loaded with 15 rounds and carried around. My personal solution was to get new magazines and load them to 10 rounds instead. I understand that the current recommended load is 12 rounds, not 15.

[@deenoberry3360]

I think the Beretta design is the best police or civilian carry gun but not for the military though I'm still getting a Beretta 92g tomorrow😁. Seriously as an army small arms repairman for 8 years I saw m9 abused and neglected in the field but still be serviceable and no complaints. The only things I routinely encountered we're a broken locking block here and there and missing trigger bar springs due to cleaning rod dislodging that spring when cleaning the magwell. Also had a couple finishes messed up from factory and screwed up rifling on a new unissued m9. I still think every gun owner should have a Beretta it's just a sweet shooting gun and reliable as long as it stays decently cleaned and maintained.

[@justinhansen7384]

The USGI mags have two issues. The first issue is the phosphate finish has pore space and let's fine dust in which causes a lot of surface friction. The manufacturers are required to adhere to US Government specs and can't change the surface finish to black oxide, PVD, etc. without going through a painful approval process. Simply sanding the interior of a USGI magazine fixes the friction problem. The second issue is that the USGI mags are notorious for having the cheapest springs possible and are notorious for being weak as a result.

[@Shadowlogic420]

Interesting i look forward to seeing more hand guns being tested this way.

[@yarborough137]

I had terrible issues with dust and my M9 while deployed. I tried multiple types of magazines however the locking surfaces were my issue. There were multiple occasions when the gun would have only fired the round in the chamber because the dust was so terrible.

[@ShawnHinck]

I’m curious how the newer sand mags that come with the M9A1 and the NP3 treated sand mags that come with the A3 work. I know in my experience they worked when other mags weren’t, but nowhere near this degree of dust though.

[@rsmac11]

+1 for the bad mag comments. Both times I did pistol qual (TBS and Camp Hansen) I had an armorer try to give me mags that were deformed and bulging. It was just widely understood that you needed to function test your mags with your exact pistol to be sure they would work.

[@harvestn9841]

Ian looked more excited to be using the leaf blower than he was when he used a flamethrower

[@tom132cairns]

Imagine walking into the desert and seeing what, at first glance, appears to be a hippie with a leaf blower aggressively blowing at a pistol on the ground. What a world. Nice test tho

[@scttshwldct]

Quick question: Is that someone's personal leaf blower or is that a Patreon leaf blower?

[@GriffXJ]

I'd be interested to see this with a P320/M17/M18 and see how the former vs current issue sidearm functioned when compared

[@kl3847]

I would love to see the same test with the Sig P320, its replacement.

[@jhalscott]

I'd like to see a lubed test. See if the lube traps the dirt and dust before it gets to the mag. It might slow down the slide, but maybe help to seal slightly. I'd also like to see how long it runs with a fresh mag, similar to if you had a fresh one in a mag pouch in the field.

[@matfriske5548]

So glad I watched this, I have to rethink my pistol / leaf blower trip.

[@raseli4066]

These videos just proves that you always got to keep your firearms safe away from dirt and grime

[@louwn]

You know you 2 are really gread guys but, i really miss having the wheelbarrel in the video's. He is like thad guy you know from work who never seems to say a word but always works the hardest but never seems to mess up. Love the guy.

[@afinoxi]

"Focus , camera." And so it heard the word of the lord , and focused.

[@AndyE30]

Maybe try it with a..... well a sand resistant magazine? The gun will run fine with junk in it as long as the sand gets shaken or shot out. I've tortured my 92fs til it cries.

[@somebodysomewhere4943]

Exactly, if you drop your gun in sand/dirt it's common sense to shake it to get as much of it out as possible

[@proteus2103]

Cool results. I've heard from some friends of mine that are Desert Storm/Shield vets that they hated these. And I always say what's not to like? It's a Beretta. Now I can sorda see why that is.

[@RedArmyReenactor]

Love these dust tests! After these do you guys tag team the cleaning or is it on the owner of the given firearm to do it?

[@MrTappers7]

While I'm NOT disputing the results of this test you guys are very thorough and have been consistent in all of your tests, but I had relatively good luck when I carried a 20 something year old M9 for Uncle Sam when in field conditions. So having a good field holster with a decent protective flap helps much more than I would have thought years ago. But in a case where a person through either helo insertion or vehicle convoy encounters heavy fowling like this would it be prudent to change mags just in case? This is a question regarding guys who may not have the choice to change pistols even with sand resistant mags.

[@Hadanelith1]

Swapping driving around for a leaf blower seems like an excellent idea. I'm guessing Karl was pleased to avoid driving through that dust cloud.

[@PanamaJack556]

The anti friction magazines that ship with the M9A1 and M9A3 are silver with a different coating than the MecGar and normal factory mags. The mecgars aren't the sand resistant mags.

[@seamusderby169]

This is why i use graphite as lube in dusty environments so you can knock loose dirt and debris while still protecting moving parts and locking surfaces

[@Wetbread88]

I'll still love my Beretta

[@spretcher]

Now I want to see a leaf blower dust/mud test!

[@joshboy1st]

amazing! be good to see the Glock 17 and the new SIG M17 as a comparison

[@adamak47miller90]

I love listing to you 2 talk

[@DigitalRX2r]

The sand is causing a fulcrum jam (imagine a wedge door stop that you use to keep a door open). A piece of sand becomes lodged between the follower and the magazine body. The follower gets caught at an odd angle on the piece of sand and the spring can't overcome the resistance. Coating would help with things sticking, but it wouldn't prevent a piece of sand from falling in, that's more in the design of the weapon. My guess is the ingress into the magazine happened when the first round was chambered; probably because of the sand that was sitting in the locking area. The way the slide is cut gravity would dump it all directly into the magazine at the worst time, before the 2nd round in the stack is lifted to the top of the magazine (following round still depressed by the slide), so its wide open for all those larger objects. It's the design of the gun more than the mag. Most magazines will fail a sand torture test in a similar manner.

[@damianbigelow9511]

Should of tried those fancy new sand mags from baretta. I got a bunch of them but haven't tried them yet. But when I carry my m9 I still use the mec-gar mags. They just slide right in there so silky smooth 😏 Im in the noth east so dust isn't too much of an issue for me. We have more mud than anything round here.

[@spldrong]

I've had this problem in the past when I'm in that moon dust environment for a long time. My pistol mag, the one in the gun only, literally fills with sand. (Several different pistols, several brands of mags) And obviously once that occurs, its basically worthless.i would just switch mags and it would be good to go. I would have to disassemble the old mag to pour the sand out from under the follower.

[@RuBearUSA]

Thank you for the video, I would wear good gloves in this test, just in case. What would happen with PVD coated mags?

[@larryhouneycutt5355]

Since is/was the replacement to the 1911 , I would be interested to have a 1911 dust test

[@Wight977]

It would be interesting to see the Vektor SP1 put through the same test to see if the changes the South Africans made, such as the fully enclosed slide, improved the guns resistance to dust at all.

[@totherepublic358]

Ian is correct here, the m9 magazine is particularly sensitive to dust. I couldn't care if a gun fails with rocks in it! I don't expect any gun to function full of actual sand but any reasonable person would wipe the sand out of the action before expecting it to function. No gun can be tight enough to keep out the fine dust that can kill an m9 mag. What they would have found if they tried it, is than even in a pocket or wrapped in cloth, in a very dusty environment (like Irag) the m9 magazine will fail. The dust will penetrate the cloth and the extremely fine dust particles that permeate through will kill the magazine. It doesn't even have to appear dirty, it can look pretty clean and still the mag will fail. It will not kill the gun. The m9 can be covered in very fine talcum-like moon dust and function perfectly with a clean mag but the magazines cannot handle that dust. In Iraq, the only method I found was keeping mags in ziplock bags inside your pocket. If you did that, the gun could have dust stuck all over it and it would function just fine as long as that magazine was pristine. The alternative was daily unloading and cleaning of the mags and ammo. AR mags did not suffer from this in my experience. Short of actual sand, the AR mags seemed to work.

[@UndeadSo1dier]

What about the M9A3 magazines with that "new" sand resistant coating?

[@PanamaJack556]

The 92A1 does differ from the M9A1 and M9A3 with a self contained guide rod. That may have a major effect.

[@Scootman]

2:07 - that KZbin compression looks awesome

[@12gammagamma]

You guys should try this one in a GI holster. Since it's loaded unchambered, like you might carry a backup handgun, I think that's a pretty reasonable test.