Knight's XM9 Beretta "Hush Puppy" - For USAF Survival Kits

[@cschultzy56]

"We won't even hear the mechanical sound of the slide cycling. We will however hear the sound of 10,000 angry bees because somebody felt the need to bring a drone to the video shoot." - Ian

[@LostShipMate]

The American 180 was going off in the background

[@Otokichi786]

Who was mixing a batch of cement at the firing range?;)

[@Ryknfjor]

@@Otokichi786 lol no shit right lol

[@fuckthepopulation8109]

And the idiots talking and moving in the background the whole damn time🤦‍♂️

[@mrmactknife]

@@Otokichi786 Yeah, whoever that was, was very annoying :(

[@Sepuku78]

There’s a third reason for having a slide lock - you don’t leave any empty cases behind

[@HayDog322]

Sepuku78 I mean you can pick them up

[@bachmed00]

@@HayDog322 Try that in the dark in a jungle. You have no visual perception of where the case went. However, if you rack the slide back you can focus on where the casing go's.

[@profile2047]

Dylan L Yes exactly. Pretty much impossible at the Jungle warfare training center in Okinawa or even Pendleton (depending on the terrain).

[@Captain-Jinn]

I mean, if it's impossible for you to find an empty case in the jungle, why would you worry about leaving behind an empty case in the jungle?

[@17473039]

@@Captain-Jinn because you probably can't find it at night but you could probably find it during the day, especially with the aid of metal detectors

[@HerZeL3iDza]

I always thought the suppressors wearing out so fast in MGS3 was a pure gameplay decision. But now I see that it was also based on realism. They even got the sound right for manual ejecting a casing.15 years later and I'm still impressed by the little details in those games, especially for their time.

[@impaler331]

Thank God someone else said something. Metal gear was the first thing I thought of!

[@alexmoon3844]

​@@impaler331SIGINT got me interested in firearms

[@dude2542]

​@@alexmoon3844the custom made m1911

[@XH1927]

It was a gameplay decision, it was just the best kind of gameplay decision... the kind that can be justified in reality

[@MoswenMedia]

This is not most supressors. They usually use 1 wipe, and have a series of metal chambers to act as baffles, and those dont wear out quickly

[@hjp14]

Somewhere out there, a former Air Force procurement officer is shedding a single tear as Ian compliments the choice of suppressor for the XM9--it is the proudest moment of his life.

[@bulkhungry]

12 minutes in , somewhere steve1989 involuntary utters the phrase : " nice hiss "

[@DrMogilus]

A'ight, let's get this out onto a tray... *puts suppressed pistol on tray* Nice! M'kay.

[@joeh8785]

Needs more gusset...

[@petlahk4119]

You know he likes that hiss so much because it means there is a much, much lower risk of spores growing in his bowels the next few weeks.

[@jake9705]

Ian: Films first suppressor video in a decade Gun range: Loudest its been in a decade

[@dustyak79]

Sounded like DOT was filling pot holes on an interstate

[@SinaelDOverom]

Usual records have directional noise cancellation that muffles the background, and the sounds of the shots (you can definitely hear the difference with earlyest range videos that didn't have it). This time it was disabled so you coiuld hear the shots without alterations.

[@fireguzzi.]

Thought somebody was raking the gravel or something.

[@CptJistuce]

That's just the ATF agents watching because he has a licensed suppressor.

[@3of11]

dustyak79 that would be a really silenced sound around these parts.

[@matthewconnor5483]

The sight and mounting system is probably the coolest part of this thing.

[@MrCherokeeindian]

I would suggest the manual slide-lock system is very close for second. Another note, I really appreciate the same system being in the white from manufacturer as it is much easier to denote what the slide-lock is in Ian’s video.

[@JaySantana-so9zw]

The sights are awful

[@clmwrx]

@@brianbarrett2487 know you have to have at least good eyesight to be a jet pilot haha

[@clmwrx]

@@brianbarrett2487 well. Guess to be prop pilot or any pilot in the US military

[@KyussTheWalkingWorm]

@@brianbarrett2487 With the way the wipes wear out it's not like you can rely on shooter skill for any ambitious shots anyway. It's like having a barrel where the crown is not only poorly done but changes after every shot.

[@JalkWORLD]

"Sneaky people agencies". I like that description.

[@canuckloyalist4681]

I don't know why he called them that, he could have just given their initials....

[@muffty1337]

@@canuckloyalist4681 do you mean SPA?

[@haimo14228]

Those who Híllary uses to suicide people

[@Paratroopersteark]

yeah, it almost speaks chineese to me

[@TiagoSC]

@@Paratroopersteark You mean Yiddish

[@SinisterGerbils]

"Did you say *Virtual* Mission ?" "No Snake, the *Virtuous* Mission." Also, "Did you say *nerd* ?

[@darkerkyo]

"Not nerd, node."

[@Documentoh]

"...Oh-"

[@ISOCATO]

no ''NODE''

[@carnifexzer0]

"Colonel, we have Emma Emmerich here, WE MANAGED TO AVOID DROWNING" "Good work, Raiden"

[@OneKit]

@Leide Keine Dummköpfe "What did you say?"

[@thevigilante5623]

“ENEMY SIGHTED! REQUESTING BACKUP!”-Gurlukovich Soldier, 2009

[@OneKit]

"FREEZE!"

[@OneKit]

*shoots dart*

[@technollusion]

Perfect weapon to have when jumping off a bridge on to an oil tanker in rainy weather while using a cloaking device.

[@WalksWithNoFear]

Happens all the time on the Golden Gate bridge.

[@gen-zboomer]

In love with MGS2 and don't know if I want the M9, USP9 or MK23 from that game. I know the MK23 would cost somewhere near 10k for it to be accurate.

[@technollusion]

@@gen-zboomer I actually got me an Italian Beretta 92fs, not quite an m9 though.

[@tylerdawsonmusic]

A little beauty sleep won’t hurt.

[@Sam-cr2qr]

I remember infiltrating a tanker and a oil cleanup facility using this and putting every enemy to sleep.

[@WingMaster562]

So you remembered the basics of CQC...

[@hiharovic7284]

Not even watching the video. Came straight to the comments looking for an MGS reference. Not at all disappointed.

[@lifeimitatingdeath3608]

@@hiharovic7284 same.

[@First-Name_Last-Name]

lalilulelo

[@austinkeown7263]

M9....

[@andredulac4456]

fun fact, in France, the S.P.A. is the "Société Protectrice des Animaux", animal protection agency... so the "Sneaky People Agencies", S.P.A., using the Hush Puppy is kinda ironic :p

[@kristiankatic9965]

Maybe they use the Hush Puppies to hush the puppies

[@lutin_mi06]

Hahahaha

[@badlaamaurukehu]

@@kristiankatic9965 If they're anything like PETA they prolly do.

[@kenanfurcle786]

@@badlaamaurukehu Afaik they are a legit animals protection/rescue organization. No notable scandals like peta

[@rays5073]

Enter the BT VP9

[@totenkopf28]

It's very generous that the owner let Ian do some shooting with despite the rarity of it. Big respect

[@ridiculousrandy1401]

If anyone can be trusted with priceless gun artifacts it would be Gun Jesus.

[@rzerizrz]

otherwise , i see no point of owning gun, if you are worried the firing pin can be worn by use lol

[@ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube]

@@rzerizrz that doesn’t necessarily apply to collectible firearms at all. It’s definitely nice to be able to shoot them, but there are new production guns with superior metallurgy for that purpose. If it’s a rare firearm or component that you don’t have any way to replace, in some situations it’s better to just take care of it for the historical significance. People thinking like that is the reason Forgotten Weapons has such a rich collection of gun videos. Along with Ian’s diligence, of course.

[@rzerizrz]

@@ThanksforcensoringmeKZbin I get that, but, i guess machining and heat treating and such, of a new firing pin, cant be that difficult, if a person, who knows how to, and been doing that.. owns such rare gun...

[@ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube]

@@rzerizrz the firing pin isnt the only thing that’s going to be subjected to wear/pressure in the least. Most of these classics were intended for older cartridges with lower pressures than their modern counterparts and have a hard time handling the increased pressure. You could reload to original spec, but if it’s something that you can’t replace then I still don’t see it as worth it in a lot of cases. Even if you could machine new parts, they wouldn’t be original. So depending on the rarity, some guns just AREN’T worth shooting anymore. It’s better for a whole group to be able to appreciate firearm history than for someone to get a couple rounds of modern ammunition through a classic firearm before they destroy it.

[@redram5150]

“Igor, go cut circles from tire to use in captured gun!”

[@LankyAssMofka]

Nyet, is capitalism pig gun

[@aaronholmes8568]

"You see Ivan, when is use capitalist pistol, is of extra stealth!"

[@MicrocatM14EBR]

"The Hudson River, two years ago..."

[@apathtrampledbydeer8446]

Verrazano-Narrows bridge.....

[@OneKit]

"We had classified intel that a new Metal Gear was scheduled for transport"

[@MudkipE]

@@OneKitthe whole thing stank

[@tylerdawsonmusic]

I still want to know how in the hell dot coms got metal gears.

[@wenaldy]

"Snake, try to remember some of the basic of CQC"

[@MyHabbits]

"Knife... Gun... Knifegun!"

[@OneKit]

"commencing virtuous mission..."

[@MyHabbits]

@Leide Keine Dummköpfe Hiimdaisy's "Let's Destroy The Shagohod"

[@KPX-nl4nt]

Lol...haven’t heard that for 20 years.

[@KPX-nl4nt]

@Leide Keine Dummköpfe Considering that I bought the game when it came out on PS1 in 1998, I’d say it was true. Go look it up.

[@DreyzieArt]

3:17 huh so that's why you manually pull the slide back after each shot in Metal Gear Solid. Pretty damn cool.

[@RyoLeo]

If I recall correctly that not why you manually load in mgs 2. It actually has to do with the fact that the less than lethal darts has less energy pushing them out which in turns mean there isn’t enough energy to get the slide to move normally. Also before you ask no it would not be a good idea to increase the powder load since that risk the darts going through the target instead of just the tip going in. So yeah while they probably got the manual sliding from real life the in game reasoning is far different. Still pretty cool anyways

[@isaacnickel]

@@RyoLeo correct

[@-Seeker-]

@@RyoLeo Could also be both. If he engages the slide lock to prevent extra noise it doesn't matter if the darts have enough recoil energy to cycle weapon.

[@RyoLeo]

Seeker HUN maybe but base on how quickly they cycle the slide and the fact that they never engage the slide lock on the socom when that is suppressed I don’t think snake/raiden care much for the lock in the first place. Anyways cya later

[@chosentwice1839]

Metal gear solid 3 actually had the MK22 hush puppy with a toggle lock on it

[@modulo3664]

"You can't play Rambo with a Beretta M9" John Woo wants to know your location

[@ZGryphon]

For best results, particularly in teahouse shootouts, you need a couple of Chinese Tokarevs with the infinite ammo cheat enabled.

[@justineallandevelos6491]

Don't forget for also every hitman in the John Wick universe

[@ShneekeyTheLost]

@@justineallandevelos6491 John Wick played very fair with magazine capacity. I swear, they had one dude whose whole job is to count rounds to make sure that he reloaded when he needed to. John Wick didn't go Rambo, he went Solid Snake on their them.

[@justineallandevelos6491]

@@ShneekeyTheLost i meant with my comment is everyone in the John wick universe is using silenced pistols since you know every guy is a assassin😂

[@Sha.ll0w]

"Avoid cycling mechanism noise" *Sliding lock making loud click claks*

[@richieb7692]

I was kind of hoping Ian would take out that drone..

[@JETWTF]

You didn't notice the cut in the video? What do you think happened then? You think they waited for it to fly away? Naw they shot it off camera.

[@GoufCustom22085]

During the cut he whipped out his trusty Cobrey terminator and shot it down.

[@hugebartlett1884]

I bet he was tempted! Could belong to the range boss. Not very tactful shooting down his drone!

[@markreeter6227]

Target drone. Unscheduled Bofors practice that day.

[@ethanreaper]

Cypher....

[@AtholAnderson]

In theory, it'd also be good in water insertions (ie SEALs doing SEAL things), as you wouldn't have to worry about water blocking the barrel (initially)

[@snek9353]

Yup, with an intact wipe and a round in the chamber the barrel should stay dry for a bit. Only leakage would be around the case as it's not a tight seal until fired. Now ya leave a fired case in the chamber, should be pretty sealed.

[@magicoddeffect]

In practice the backside of this suppressor where it meets the barrel would be far less water-tight than a threaded-on suppressor. But a threaded suppressor that used wipes and had some grease on the barrel threads would probably be watertight enough for some swimming, at least at the muzzle end.

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

5 sec clearing time

[@Sergiblacklist]

Out latest r&d has come up with this we call it the hush puppy CO "that's a cute little name" Navy seal in the corner "were gonna shoot dogs with it" CO " are you ok man"

[@ethanng1454]

James Harding What is the ATF I don’t know anything about dat.

[@martink3504]

I laughed way too hard at this

[@billylin5404]

I remember reading about this suppressor for the Beretta from a firearms magazine as a teenager. It's so cool to see this on your video about two decades later and even with a shooting footage. Thanks Ian!

[@WTFisTingispingis]

I remember this in Metal Gear Solid 2! Imagine my surprise to find out all they changed for that game was making it a tranq gun, it even fired single-action.

[@insanity4082]

I always appreciated how much attention to detail was put into the firearms in Metal Gear Solid.

[@scullystie4389]

This must be how they make those Life Saver gummies.

[@jamesalexander7540]

Yes, yes indeed.

[@DavidThomas-sv1tk]

THC gummies would be multi-purpose: noise suppression and "medicinal" use.

[@victoracosta4796]

This is the cordite flavored version.

[@LankyAssMofka]

@@dentside78 can someone make a suppressor out of wine gums please? I believe the round ones are the perfect shape and consistency

[@OneKit]

ngl life savers seem like the perfect makeshift baffle

[@JenkemDungeon]

The sights on the suppressor itself is interesting.

[@2ndproductions459]

The time traveller

[@connfizzle882]

'1 Month Ago' - Welcome to late July 2020. No, things have gotten worse. Yup, apparently it IS possible.

[@nikanor8152]

@Bruh Fu they time travelled??

[@ajeje1996]

I wonder if they could've mounted the front sight to the can using a tightly fit ring that can rotate around the body of the silencer, allowing a minimum of windage adjustment

[@PimpCatTV]

1 month ago. H O W

[@AnunnakiWarrior88]

"you're not supposed to be trying to snipe things with this" laughs in Suppressed James Bond Walther PPK

[@zemmy1985]

Hey Ian, you ever get a chance to come across one of them special revolvers that were developed for the "tunnel rats" during Vietnam? As I recall, it was a simple revolver that used specific shotgun type rounds that didn't flash in the dark nor made too much noise. I read a article about the type of guns used by the tunnel rats in a military surplus mag

[@andrewstraub131]

I believe they were converted s&w 29s barrel cut back and loaded with some sort of modified giant rat shot cartridge I don’t remember whether or not they had made some sort of closed piston round like the Soviet silent pistol round

[@anintruder3157]

“Kept you waiting, huh?”

[@christopherjones7023]

"I'm at the 'sneak point' "

[@TheKingofSteves]

"And ignored the fact that they'd be using it on the guards themselves..." 😂😂😂

[@jeffreyroot6300]

Sounds like the old wives tale : “No it’s really an anti material rifle! Honest!”

[@Treblaine]

@@jeffreyroot6300 Yeah, we're just aiming for their belt buckles.

[@hanktorrance6855]

Interesting alternative to the traditional "silencer" and the back story is fascinating, especially given the use of suppressed Swedish Ks by Mac v SOG and others, as well as the welrod, in the same time period

[@Vuntermonkey]

"The hole gets bigger as you shoot through it" . Wisdom for the ages.

[@Sam-lr9oi]

my hypothesis is that the innermost wipes have smaller holes because they spend more time in contact with hot gases and stay more malleable for longer. very neat, I did not expect you to be shooting this when I opened the video

[@ekscalybur]

I've come to expect that when Ian brings up a weapon who's feature is the sound or lack thereof, we're getting a demonstration. Though it's usually a friday vid with a saturday demonstration. We got lucky today.

[@lilqueso8190]

@@ekscalybur xvv

[@a4channoob]

my guess is that since there are 3 wipes stacked together, the first wipe has the back supported better by the next wipes and thus has less chance of tearing out the hole. the last wipe in the stack with no support will tear the hole easier without support. thats why the very last wipe was missing a large hunk

[@silmarian]

A smart phone decibel meter app in a window would be really nice for suppressor episodes, since the mic tends to auto-level the sound.

[@ronbush7062]

I was issued one of these when I was at 5th. Haven't seen one since. That was '97.

[@FelixBrehh]

I wish you were allowed to keep it.

[@spookypunky]

Ron Bush, did you hush any puppies with it?

[@JAB6322]

"Don't kill me." *Dances and drops dogtag*

[@Version135]

Oh that brings back good memories my friend.

[@HebuTheLoneWolf]

i had to check if i can find any MGS comments and i dint have to scroll long to find one xD also now i learned why the M9 was single shot in MGS2 :D

[@rockerdude8000]

@@HebuTheLoneWolf because the tranquilizer rounds aren't powerful enough to work the action I'm guessing. Then the real reason to balance the game out

[@HebuTheLoneWolf]

@@rockerdude8000 true that. but i wasn't aware that there was other sidearm designs that had side lock, only one i was aware was the H&K mk23 socom. its always nice to learn something new every day

[@mimimimeow]

@Jean *UGHUGHUGHUGHUGHUGH*

[@lukaszpokoju]

For a long time I thought the silencer depicted on MGS2 cover by Shinkawa was a fictional attachment because how "goofy" it looked. Indeed the artwork got it pretty accurately.

[@Leo___________]

I'll take a slice of that humble pie as well

[@ricardomiles2957]

As far I'm aware MGS2, 3 and 4 have the most accurate depictions of military equipment. 1 it's almost there and in 5 for some reason they don't use real equipment.

[@Karv3r]

​@@ricardomiles2957 Such a shame about 5. Those ugly fake guns with silly names really bother me every time I play it.

[@ricardomiles2957]

@@Karv3r no Money for licensing maybe? Or not wanting to have the same problem 4 has? The game had so many licenses involved that they simply can't touch that game again.

[@ToastyMozart]

@@ricardomiles2957 I think the guy they had consulting for accuracy in prior games got arrested for being a little *too* legit as well. Owned some hardware that Japanese weapons prohibitions disagreed with.

[@Robin-yk6vf]

"It looks like the same gun used by Solid Snake *14* years ago. Following that terrorist incident, similar models were made and sold among the fans of his exploits."

[@JohnDoe-pv2iu]

On a side note, if I understand the current ATF rules correctly, the wipes are a suppressor component that is regulated. In other words, if you have a wipe based suppressor you are supposed to return it to have the wipes replaced. Being a suppressor component would mean that having an extra set of wipes, is the same as having a second suppressor and would require a second tax stamp. That makes a wipe suppressor not very useful for an individual. If I have this wrong, please let me know but that is the way I understand the latest interpretation to be. Great video! Take Care and be safe, John

[@keepermovin5906]

Yep that’s how it works which is why you don’t talk about the sheets of polyethylene that look like Swiss cheese

[@pops55650]

I think this has changed. I do remember at one point if you had a “fake” suppressor, if you had a stack of wipes somewhere, they could consider your “fake” suppressor an NFA item. But that was so long ago, most suppressors use baffles now. Since the can is the registered part, you can buy all the wipes you want. But as always, don’t believe me, some random internet “expert”, check with the ATF. They post their “rules” online

[@Maggi9909]

Hm in mgs the reason for the having to manualy rack the hush puppy after every shot was that the tranq rounds didnt have anough force to cycle it But this one is way cooler

[@bonnie1020a]

I’m pretty sure Otacon mentions the slide lock mechanism at the start of the Tanker chapter in MGS2. I think the “tranq rounds can’t cycle” thing was in MGS4 when Snake uses a Ruger Mk. 2.

[@jcodym13]

@@bonnie1020a lol it wasn't a Ruger MK2. That's a .22 target pistol. It was a S&W 39

[@Maggi9909]

@@jcodym13 pretty shure thats mgs3 in mgs4 he uses a ruger

[@CaroFDoom]

i assume both reasons apply

[@bonnie1020a]

@@CaroFDoom The lower force is probably why they don't turn off the slide-lock

[@reka10]

O.O He completely deflowered that suppressor.

[@reka10]

@Masemeno Nasaku don't take away a kid's innocence...

[@yanish00]

Shooting a silenced gun to demonstrate its sound... Literally every1 in the background is making as much noise as possible... 😔

[@davem2369]

Shooting something suppressed on camera will not provide any sort of decent representation of the sound in person anyway. The microphones just wont be decent enough to convey it realistically

[@davem2369]

Also the fact theres a conversation occuring in the background gives something of a measure of how relatively quite the sound from the pistol is

[@RyoLeo]

Like what some people said the fact that you can clearly hear their conversation over the gun shots shows just how quiet it’s actually is since normal shots would blow out any conversation in any other situation. If anything I would rather have every suppressor show casing have a distance conversation in the background just to show the silencing effectiveness of said suppressor

[@davem2369]

@coachmilldawg i do what i can for my fans

[@realasifromreal]

@@davem2369 you dont have a single video what do you mean "i do everything for my fans?" If theres nothing you've done for anyone

[@mrfrosty3]

I'm surprised I haven't seen this in movies etc with it being such a cool looking gun. That stigma about using suppressed guns is interesting. In a documentary about the SAS raid on the Iranian embassy they mentioned that there was a plan to attack using suppressed weapons but officials felt uncomfortable about it. It strikes me as an odd decision

[@Thebrokenjar294]

Colonel, we’ve managed to avoid drowning!

[@none6316]

I found my new dream weapon. Literally everything about this gun is so god damn cool. The snap on suppressor, the slide locking. I absolutely love it.

[@Jim5745]

It was cool to see it in action. Before I left the FFL, I was working for, we had 2 of them come in the shop. It was neat seeing the Gas escape when the slide was manually operated.

[@none6316]

I want one specifically because the slide has a locking mechanism for single, silenced shots. Lots of the noise comes from the slide racking and the bullet hitting the ground. With that it makes as little noise as possible. So freaking cool.

[@jhyland87]

Actually the _pa-thup_ sound _does_ come through (at least on my headphones), as well as the hissing on the 3rd shot. Very cool.

[@Bbonno]

The loudness of the guns still isn't clear on video, but Ian gets increasingly quiet as the baffles wear out. That actually does a good job of establishing that there some difference!

[@sheriff3272]

"Other Sneaky People Agencies" - Ian 2020

[@Zack_Wester]

thanks now I know what to name my next secret agency in my next game I play as I always have problem whit names. OSPA = "Other Sneaky People Agencies". just need to make sure there is a agency called Sneaky People Agencies (SPA)

[@trogo3402]

Kept you waiting, huh!

[@Yukizora156]

"Jack, or should I say, Snake, you're a wonderful man, kill me, kill me now"

[@CuproHastes]

I get the feeling that suppressed pistols (Like the Welrod) were always supposed to be used form close enough tot the target that the loose sights weren't going to be a problem.

[@timmersd.8663]

that back pressure really jacks that case outa there

[@prestonvandivier1379]

This is an incredibly cool piece of technology, and the range footage really makes the video! awesome work as always.

[@bobthompson4319]

when showing off a can on camera shooting steel helps give a refrance sound to see how quiet it is.

[@romeoechofoxtrot18]

If you've ever played metal gear solid 2 or 3 then you know that the suppressors used to deteriorate over time. When I was a kid playing these games who had no idea how suppressors actually worked I just assumed that your suppressor would deteriorate because they didn't want you to have a suppressor throughout the entire game as a way of making it more challenging, but after watching this video it makes sense now why that was a mechanic in the game thanks Ian

[@KingpinLuther]

The camera could use a silencer, I can practically hear the other guys on the range scratching their butts.

[@thunderring8056]

Kiere Luurs he’s talking about people in the background besides Ian.

[@Redbird1504]

This had a more interesting history than i had thought it would. GJ Ian.

[@lasarousi]

It was today's years old when I realized why some filters can be used as make up supresors because of the washers.

[@Jayhawkga]

@space cowboy#2 Shhh. Don't say that in public.

[@Sp1der44]

Also worth noting that weapons like this were usually employed at very short ranges so as to minimize the potential for missing making the zero of the sight less critical. It was most likely designed to help acquire some other poor fellows weapon. Great Video Ian.

[@suma4m]

Videos featuring suppressed weapons should also include some common sounds for comparison (clapping, slamming car door, opening a can of soft drink, etc.).

[@JuicyFruityify]

Irony: other guns, the range is so quiet. Beautiful gun, great vid!

[@bid911sniper]

Only video I've ever seen of so-called wipes. Thank you.

[@oddspaghetti4287]

The pattern of the size of those holes leads me to believe that if you had a long stack of rubber wipes without any of the spacers you could keep the first few holes incredibly small.

[@Genny207]

Hey dad, can we get Welrod? We have Welrod at home. * Welrod at home: *

[@basic5926]

That meme is meant to imply that the XM9 is inferior, but I'd definitely take it over a Welrod.

[@toomanybrews7123]

@@basic5926 Depends on what you're using it for I suppose. The Welrod is significantly quieter, but it is definately built for only a few specific purposes.

[@basic5926]

@@toomanybrews7123 Definitely, the Welrod is way better if you're planning to hunt SS officers at a crowded cocktail party. I was just thinking from a general standpoint.

[@Genny207]

@@basic5926 I don't disagree with your original reply, but I just wanted the meme to work ^.^'

[@Xelif9]

@@toomanybrews7123 i believe they can come pretty close with this one if they use subsonic ammo

[@UnknownReloader]

I was once told by some people of the internet: "Don't hold the slide shut with your hand! It can damage the pistol!" even though they could provide no good technical explanation of why. Now here's a pistol designed to lock shut that has existed for decades.

[@shawnr771]

Holding the slide shut with your hand, might damage your hand.

[@emersonb5764]

Shawn R nope, it’s totally doable and not painful at all. Try it sometime. Doesn’t even require that much force. If you ever have to take a shot with the muzzle jammed so hard into your target thatthe slide moves back just a tad, you may need to force the slide shut withthe other hand and hold it there as you fire, to get it fully into battery. Of course it’s better to move the gun back a hair so you aren’t using it in single shot mode but if you have no other choice and your life is in danger do what ya gotta do. I can’t speak for other operating systems like rotating barrel or gas operated or such things, but you won’t hurt a blowback pistol by holding it shut. If that damages it, then it wasn’t gonna last another hundred rounds of normal fire anyway.

[@shawnr771]

@@emersonb5764 I did not think it would hurt the weapon at all. Years ago I saw a 10/22 with a latch that held the bolt shut. Looked like a small version of a screen door latch with a groove cut in the back of the charging lever. Kinda snapped into place. I would just worry about my hand.

[@ajdo1991]

MVia just search “holding slide on pistol” and there are plenty of videos showing people doing exactly that. You can even stop a pistol from cycling by putting your thumb on the back of the slide.

[@detritus23]

AJ Now that sounds stupid: not from the “it won’t work” perspective, but from “putting all the force into a small hinged object” perspective. Better to use the heel of your hand and not risk slide bite or a sprained thumb from doing it wrong. Or just put you hand on the slide, more contact area for a better grip.

[@deedee4531]

My mate wants to know if it fires tranquilizer darts he's got a ship to take over

[@QuasiTraction]

What we didn't see: Ian had some NOS supply of wipes to take down that annoying drone in two shots.

[@forge20]

The wipes with spacers actually act as additional pressure chambers ... but more importantly, they create an orifice effect. In compressible flow, there will be a wave front propagating from the edge of the orifice hole radiating outward in a cone, which will act as a "step" in the pressure profile along the silencer. So the big main compartment drops the pressure from 35,000 psi down to 3500 or so, then each wipe/spacer stage probably drops it another 500 psi or so so that the gas pressure at exit is under 2500 psi. Just guessing on the actual numbers but that's the principle.

[@Dr.D00p]

Its always good to hear the reality of suppressed weapon firing with the nonsense of the movies.

[@Astraeus..]

@MVia Installing something that doesn't come as part of the system makes it not average anymore, making your argument invalid.

[@snek9353]

@Lovecraft Mine is more effective.

[@JackedRado71]

*uses hollow points Wipes: why you do me like that

[@koulikov4163]

"freeze" "MOH"

[@eggcrack1746]

AKUH

[@jgarcia2305]

I have headphones with a bass-boosting feature and I’m able to hear the pressure equalize as you manually cycle the slide. You make great vids.

[@akukorhonen5182]

It's not all about making the hole bigger by shooting a magdump through the wipes, or whatever muffler. Noise increases also by heating up the whole can, thus reducing it's ability to cool down gasses, which means more heard bang. With the first shot you also have air in the can to burn some unburn powder residues, which on further shots can at least in theory burn outside the can, thus making flash and bang. Or make bigger bang on the first shot .

[@ADRay1999]

John Wick enters restaurant Ian as a waiter: ah Mr. Wick what will you be having this evening? John Wick: The Hush Puppy special Ian as a waiter: As you wish Sir

[@ekscalybur]

Red Dog Actual to Seal Team 6, don't forget your hush puppies on this mission. *brawny giggling ensues*

[@radioactive9861]

I have to admit, this is the first suppressor I have ever seen with 'wipes'. All of the other suppressors I knew about until now(with one exception) were all made(and I am probably describing this wrong) with baffles and additional chambers which would re-direct the gas and slow it's exit from the barrel, so it did not come out as a LOUD BANG! but rather a 'small bang'. The only 'exception' I saw was from a 'true crime' tv show where some young punk murdered his? parents using a designed suppressor he found online that he made with pvc pipe and cut up tennis balls.

[@gsyoung54]

I remember in the '80s being fascinated about what little I could find out about (pre internet so libraries and trade magazines and books about silencers) the Vietnam era Smith and the Hush Puppy. My dad served two tours and said he saw some of these, and suppressed Grease guns but never actually got to shoot them. I had my FFL/SOT as early as I could and bought an AWC - Automatic Weapons Company MK9 Hush Puppy and had the chance to talk to both Reed Knight and Phil 'Doc' Dater who I believe collaborated on the AWC thread on design. It has no Neilsen or booster device, although AWC was just starting to sell them.. I think first for 45 caliber. My MK9 is so light it functions perfectly on a Browning Hi-Power with an accessory threaded barrel I got from Bar-Sto. I have my manufacturer's SOT now so I can make and have extra wipes for this and other older wipe suppressors without worrying about the newest kid ATF agent getting too excited. Actually, they have never gone through my whole shop or house... the seven different agents I've worked with just wanted me to hold up various NFA weapons and suppressors so that they could see and verify the serial numbers. Only one guy actually showed interest in a .22 suppressor and I took it apart for him and let him see how it was put together. It had a fresh looking wipe and he didn't ask anything about that, he was more interested in the baffles and how they worked and how he thought they would actually go "the other way in the tube". I offered for him to shoot it into a big wooden box I had in the shop with old Shotgun News's and an old dog pillow but he declined.

[@SxTxferlife]

No BS, my grandpa down in Mexico has this whole kit.

[@muffty1337]

Lucky gandpa ideed.

[@lucky43113]

@MVia Just a long wait and paperwork

[@VictorManuel-pf7se]

DFS got these kits back in the day. Don’t ask me how I know haha

[@bobthompson4319]

I like the sights on the can. Even if its not super accurate its not meant for 50 yard shots.

[@magnuskallas]

I'm contemplating a short story / film idea and this thing really is quiet compared to regular non-wipe ones - it really is a "supresded" setup. And manual slide operation does make sense, I think I saw it somewhere before and was wondering why semi-auto was singe-action. Story wise this actually leaves room for extra tension :) Thank you.

[@Gravel1331]

SWEET!!! I finally catch 'Gun Jesus' within minutes of him posting a new video. :)

[@Gravel1331]

@MVia :o (My shocked face lol)

[@CharlesAnjos]

oh, so THAT is what Otacon is talking about when he talks about a slide lock in MGS2, huh? also this thing about rubber wipes is why suppressors in MGS games wear out? cool af, and here I was thinking that those were introduced for gameplay purposes, but they are (somewhat) grounded in reality. that is so cool!

[@ignaciasd1198]

12:20 Ah, yes the *PATHOOO* Ian's technical naming sense never ceases to amaze

[@andrewirvine6444]

presumably ear defenders are less necessary with the suppressor...so your downed pilot is better able to hear search parties approaching or the rescue helicopter early enough to get visible in time.

[@zylaxis]

Judging by this video, it would seem the traditional Hollywood "thwip" silencer isn't completely far-fetched. This is pretty close.

[@dammitol7678]

I saw one of these in the 1990's. It was demonstrated with special 158gr blue tip sub-sonic round and the primary noise was the click of the hammer dropping .

[@nyc10021]

I didn’t expect you were actually going to shoot it. Wonderful surprise to see the demo.

[@VanBurenPhilips]

Noob question: when you've got a device like this changing the way gases leave the weapon, does it make the recoil feel different?

[@LankyAssMofka]

I'd imagine it technically would as the gas would be leaving more slowly as well as the bullet. With the added weight too I'd guess it be less. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just trying to think about the physics never shot anything besides a BB gun.

[@dscrappygolani7981]

A little. Not enough to matter.

[@dannyboi9552]

id think it should be less because you dont have the mass of the slide reciprocating

[@ianfinrir8724]

Kinda, but it's not really noticable.

[@paulkube3901]

Ian: were the rounds used in the demo sub-sonic? Could you pls list what was used? TIA

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Yes, 147 grain. I don't recall the brand, sorry.

[@larryjimbob]

@@ForgottenWeapons sorry to grab your attention this way Ian 😊 Which would you say is the quietest suppressed pistol single shot or otherwise? The Welrod perhaps?

[@Darwinist]

@@larryjimbob They should grab a lab-grade decibel meter and do a suppressor extravaganza in some quiet place, maybe like an indoor shooting gallery or something. Probably hard to get all those rare guns like the Welrod etc in the same place at the same time, but I'd love to see it go up against the Hush Puppy and the Silent Destroyer. Hell, maybe even try to get a VSS in as well.

[@wedge259]

@@larryjimbob with a locked action and a brand new stack of wipes, the "most quiet" suppressed pistol is going to come down to bullet diameter and bullet speed. 45 is a commonly suppressed round as it is inherently subsonic, but it is louder than a subsonic suppressed 9mm because of the larger bullet cutting through the air, and once the wipes are worn you have a larger diameter hole in the end of the can for gas to escape and make more noise. So realistically the most quiet pistol you'd be able to find would be a suppressed 22. My Ruger Mk3, Mk4, and S&W Victory with CCI standards are "movie quiet".

[@larryjimbob]

@@wedge259 thank you for your reply 😊 I appreciate those factors, but did wonder if there is one that is the quietest, ie as said using a decibel meter to measure it in a controlled environment would be interesting. It was a shame that the background noise was so loud when testing a suppressed weapon that day 😂😊

[@ivmoon_gp]

Today I learned why suppressors have durability in video games. Thanks, Ian.

[@Wowaniac]

your referring to GIgames SGW 1-2 horrible video games

[@mistercodyful]

I never expected you to shoot it. That was cool! Thumbs up and a comment for that alone. Keep up the good work!

[@tenchraven]

I'm sure it could be upgraded with more modern baffels or monocore- the snap on feature is worth the rework, it's pretty much idiot proof. And does this mean Knights let you into their sample room? Please tell me you're doing that suppressed revolver they showed off in the early 90s!

[@Thebensupremacy]

that is a beautiful weapon/attachment combination.

[@warchitect73]

you can see the gasses flowing backwards too. Also, would have been cool to see the wipes after the first shot.

[@lesthodson2802]

Hush Puppy sounds like code for the main job of an ATF agent.

[@md_vandenberg]

/locks slide back "Nice hiss."

[@jwppowers]

If I decide to buy a Beretta class handgun, this would be perfect. Believe it or not, the slide lock also works as a safety mechanism. When you insert a magazine, the slide has to be pulled back in order to chamber a round. But with the slide lock in place, you can't. Which means that even if a kid got their hands on it, as long as the chamber itself is empty and slide lock is engaged, the gun would be harmless. For that reason alone, I have got to get me one of these.