DUSTWIND Review | The Fallout: Tactics Successor You Should Be Playing

[@Fargoth_Ur]

"...But later earned a poor reputation for departing from the series' roots." Oh...oh lord, if only they knew back then...

[@acewolfgang276]

Do I laugh or cry in Fallout 76?

[@hashtastic3537]

Still have nightmares.

[@mr.j8356]

So true :D

[@dr.velious5411]

The thing is, neither the RPG mechanics or the gameplay had to suffer, it's all on Bethesda being utterly shit and too stubborn to improve.

[@honeybadger6275]

@@dr.velious5411 Managment actually thinks that removing features is an improvement, because that's how much contempt they have for their audience.

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

Damn shame it has no single player campaign, but it's good to hear they will be adding it this year and when they do it will be an instant purchase from me.

[@TheAutistWhisperer]

@Artuurs Z. Oh are you single and an idiot? i can recommend a dating app that has potential low IQ partners, its called Tinder.

[@IntelligenceCorn]

You had me up until "No single player campaign."

[@NIL0S]

It's coming later this year.

[@Indigo_Gaming]

They did announce they're making one, set to release this year, so that's promising!

[@IntelligenceCorn]

@@Indigo_Gaming I'll keep an eye on it

[@justiceforjoggers2897]

@@IntelligenceCorn Yeah, I'm with you there. Game looks like something I'd want, but I'm a singleplayer kind of guy

[@everx7]

@Nikos papadopoylos are those good ? cause i want to play them but cant decide if its worth it

[@ВинниПух-х3о]

05:40 "The sheer amount of tools at your disposal is staggering!" *Inconspicuous plunger*

[@Indigo_Gaming]

I dunno, I'd be pretty staggered if I saw someone coming at me with a used plunger!

[@ВинниПух-х3о]

05:50 "THIS IS A POWERFUL WEAPON OF DOOOOOM!"

[@spectrummike]

Are you aware that while describing unique autoshooting mechanic that improves gameplay over Fallout Tactics you actually described feature /directly lifted/ from Fallout Tactics?

[@tajomnych5]

was thinking the same thing...

[@raifthemad]

Clearly he has never played it, at least not in real time.

[@evan_vangelisskoupras3085]

@@raifthemad I didn't play the I think "Continuous play" version was its name either. Why would one since there was Turn based? I didn't forget that there was one, but some might. It's been like nearlt 15 years since I last played or modded it. That came out late 2001 or early 2002; I remember not playing it before 2002. If someone just played it during that time and say 6 months would also be 15 years since. That's alot of years. Someone can forget alot of the things that happened, even important actual world events that impacted their lives like 911 and 2008 housing market crush. I doubt people remeber even some recent events like US departure from Afghanistan. So much stuff happens every day/week/month/year now.

[@leninthebeaniesouhacker.2459]

can you talk about underrail next time in this series? this game needs more love, also atomic society for those who like city building.

[@babitz0r]

maybe better to wait for the expansion first. but yes, underrail needs more shilling

[@leninthebeaniesouhacker.2459]

@@babitz0r i agree, when the expansion comes out could be a nice time to prepare the review.

[@adamofblastworks1517]

Ooh post-apocalyptic city building? Normally I have little to no interest in city building games, but I've yearned for years for a post-apocalyptic city building game. It's not just about a city, but it gives a meaning to the city, and a fight for survival.

[@vostyok6030]

Saw a pic of this ages ago. Didn't know they were still working on it. Looks just like I imagined! Thanks for sharing

[@MattyStoked]

This looks awesome! I really like the idea of the auto attacks and being free to delve into the other aspects of your squad management. Will check this out man.

[@karry299]

> unofficial spiritual successor to Fallout: Tactics. Yes, it was called Wasteland 2.

[@acewolfgang276]

I was thinking the same thing

[@Wolfsheim23]

Minus the whole Tactics element

[@Stormeris]

@@Wolfsheim23 U w0t m8? Wasteland 2 is plenty tactical.

[@Wolfsheim23]

@@Stormeris Compared to other tactical games like fallout tactics. It was very simplified and way too basic. Coming from games like XCOM and Divinity Original Sin, Wasteland 2 was too far a step backwards.

[@D0p3rW]

@@mikrobyo1790 Fallout tactics is turn-based as well.

[@wingman0736]

If anybody is looking to Play Online, I host Dustwind all week long: Monday through Saturday 5 to 11 CDT and Sunday 4-8 CDT! You can find me on the Dustwind Discord so dont be shy to send me a PM if you are looking to get a game going. There is CoOp, CTF, FFA, Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch, and Last Team Standing. My name In Discord is the same as my name here. Hope to see all of you online!

[@Orosian5]

How did I not hear about this? Thank you for the video.

[@Indigo_Gaming]

You're very welcome! Thanks for watching.

[@MoonBeamLaser]

Hopes they keep adding features

[@Ovog95]

Looks cool! I'll check it out. What do you think about Atom RPG?

[@Indigo_Gaming]

I streamed it on its Early Access release. Loved what I played. Need to dig into it more, probably one of my next episodes!

[@omegapointsingularity6504]

its not on par with fallout

[@Hulgore]

Discovering so many games thanks to you

[@lavrenzo84]

If Wasteland 2 look like this game , then I would be so happy ! I love the art stile and graphics of DUSTWIND

[@cryptthrasher2213]

I'd be interested in seeing your take on Wasteland 2 given it's lineage and how well it matches up (for good or even bad) to the previous Fallout games, especially with Wasteland 3 in development. Additionally, I'd be interested in seeing a video on Underrail or maybe even Sheltered. I keep meaning to dust them off in my Steam library, but just some of those games that has gotten caught in the pile. No matter what though, look forward to whatever you decide to do next :).

[@Ajax-wo3gt]

The lead concept/key artist that worked on Fallout: Tactics, Tariq Raheem, was my sister's first husband and a lifelong friend. An amazingly talented artist that unfortunately passed away in May 2018. Google Tariq Art and look up his work. RIP buddy.

[@brycevo]

War never changes, even if fallout does

[@vputilov]

One of prime reasons Fallout 1 and 2 are still in our hearts is Lore. Stories, wild encounters, crazy twists of events, sex drugs guns. And not to forget karma system and good vs evil playthrough. Without it any Post Apocaliptic game seems bleak. Wasteland 2 Directors Cut was a good one. Fallout New Vegas had a lot to offer. This is seems just like many other browser MMO that made in post apocalypses style.

[@KyBr2000]

Woot! Why haven't heard about this until now?? Thanks Indigo for bringing this into my life!

[@Indigo_Gaming]

Didn't know this game was obscure as it is. I had a great time with it, hope you do as well!

[@Deagletime]

Nice video never heard of Dustwind--- For what it was I liked Tactics back in the day

[@demonspawn5164]

I liked it even though I played it in 2017. It has a good story and interesting special encounters and maps

[@Disthron]

I have to say, without some kind of story to hold my interest. I'm not sure I'd pay much for this game.

[@MattyDaKing]

Me too. Single player, I'd likely give this a shot. Without it (and some sort of story/character development), I don't really see the point.

[@legion999]

I didn't enjoy FT very much when I played it some years ago, now I think of it more fondly after witnessing 76.

[@NikoTheLegend]

This video sold me on buying the game. Thanks IG! I'd like to see videos on the Wasteland series please.

[@AFI5jc]

I love this series of videos. I would not have discovered these games and they are right up my alley.

[@conceptcenter4151]

Love this channel!

[@urf47]

Own it, and hopefully it will bloom well :) Greetings and cheers to the devs :) ~Pumie

[@hemangchauhan2864]

Always great to see less heard games

[@Indigo_Gaming]

Nice to see you again on the channel, Hemang!

[@RVR121]

Also if Dustwind has to much on the multiplayer and you want to go solo with a solid team under you take on Wasteland 2 good solid game.

[@fullgreys0n738]

@Indigo Gaming: Do you gone review the new campagne?

[@gungriffen]

Interplay, sometimes called "The Blizzard that couldn't turn a dime." Like Blizzard in the late 90s everything Interplay and Blizzard did changed gaming but where Blizzard made untold amount of riches, Interplay received high praise, game of the year awards, and low sells.

[@overboss9599]

personally, I prefer the Xcom turn based formula over real time, but this does look interesting. would be nice if we got turn-based fallout again, maybe using the Fallout: Tactics title except with an actual story to go with the open world, and while I do enjoy the modern fallouts in spite of their lackluster and basic stories, (I'm a monster I know) I envision this as a sort of hybrid of XCOM 2 and Wasteland 2, with real-time movement when not in combat, but the turn-based combat starts up when you encounter enemies or turn it on yourself (to prepare an ambush) perhaps with a sort of "initiative roll" system or selecting all your targets or tactical choices at the same time as your enemy so you don't end up with XCOM's volley fire problem.

[@redbeardnj]

Out on ps4 now! Includes the campaign!

[@firestarter6488]

I need more Lore and Worlbuilding to get interested, Fallout had that foundation that truly was what got people to come back to it...

[@roguerifter9724]

The battle system reminds me of a scifi book I was reading today. The antagonists are obsessed with following the SOP of the fleet they used to belong to. For missiles SOP is to launch whenever there is a 75 percent chance of hitting unless you are down to one missile (The ship type in question only has a single launcher, and carries four missiles when fully loaded). So the protagonist has his crew calculate when they will reach the 75 percent hit chance then program's the ship's computer to evade in the split second gap between hitting that probability and the missile launch being detected (The lag is caused by how long it takes light to travel between the two ships at the distance involved) As for Fallout Tactics I never understood the hate. Sure it was different then Fallout 1 or 2 but it was a spinoff game so it was never supposed to be the same, and no one ever claimed it was Fallout 3 so there was no reason to expect it to play just like the main series games. That would be like someone hating Heroes of Might and Magic I just because it didn't play like Might and Magic I through V. Of course it helps that I love the X-Com and Jagged Alliance franchises so I was overjoyed at the thought of a Fallout game with similar gameplay.

[@robertharris6092]

Is the M2 browning back? Not enough games have it as a portable weapon.

[@NoBodysGamer]

I watched just the beginning of the video and went to check out the steam page, GOOD NEWS: July 25 update will bring Single Player story mode and Map Editor. Time to buy

[@djazz0]

Wow, everything about this look just like Wasteland 2, but with MP :)

[@GinaTonik]

The game has been updated with a single-player campaign. Please post an update video!

[@shayoko6]

fall out brother hood of steel needed A LOT more of content not related to battles. so much dungeon...so little anything else.... the lack of purpose is a instant no for me. might be interesting if it is added. meaningless battles are a waste of time. you did mention a campaign though which might improve the experience,well see when that happens. anyway,its nice to see a good experience that isn't already known by the majority. i like channels like this. that talk about the stuff that actually deserves attention! thank you for this!

[@Hravokh]

SP incoming? count me in!

[@ShinoSarna]

Wow, this sounds like literally everything I would dislike about a Fallout Tactics successor. I loved FT because it had a solid overarching story that gave everything you do weight, some extremely cool mission like the Macomb mission where you have to escort a hummer through a hostile city where civilians toss stones at you - and you can make a moral choice in whether you shoot back (which really fits with the grey morality of Fallout universe and reminds me of real military actions against civilians in the real world like the Kent State massacre), and it had great deep turn-based combat that could easily equal Jagged Alliance and XCom in depth, with a really good and intuitive implementation of stealth (which other tactical games often couldn't do well...). I don't actually know literally anyone who used the real-time option. Oh, and speaking of Hummer, it was one of few tactical games that actually allowed you to drive military vehicles - you could even get your own tank! So yeah, literally all of that sounds missing and nothing about this sounds appealing. Hard pass.

[@Dermetsu]

This looks promising, but I'll wait for it to get a campaign.

[@ppmagic9841]

Hey Indigo how about 7 Days to Die? It offers a different take on the post apokalypse setting with a more minecraft like gameplay.

[@crozraven]

what about ATOM RPG?

[@Indigo_Gaming]

On the list for a future video!

[@FromPlsNerf]

I just started Atom RPG I think it's fantastic

[@SaltySlanko]

So, is the MP only CO-OP missions or PVP? Both?

[@RetrospectiveChannel]

You can play both Co-op and PvP in multiplayer .

[@UtushoReiuji]

Like Fallout Tactics, a big sell to me with this game is that you can actually play with a functional vehicle. I'm always surprised that a series built so heavily on the aesthetic of Mad Max has avoided wheeled vehicles like the plague, and that's compounded by the fact that its also got that 50s style with so many classic vehicles to take inspiration from.

[@Indigo_Gaming]

Yeah I think doing a realistic vehicle in tactical games is very tricky, that's why you don't see it much. I remember Warhammer 40K: Chaos Gate did back in the day, but not many others did.

[@UtushoReiuji]

It's a bit complex to handle in a tabletop RPG, but I've found that a lot of the best encounters I've done have involved the use of vehicles, particularly in chases. I feel like something that'd be particularly difficult when doing a chase like that in a game is that you'd need either a very large map or something where that generates terrain/cityscape as a chase goes on.

[@darrylwolfe7359]

whats the max chars you can bring in your missions?

[@GamerRoman]

waht about ATOM ?

[@Indigo_Gaming]

Very high on my list of games to cover in this series, Dustwind just happened to jump higher on the list for reasons of expedience. :D

[@GamerRoman]

@@Indigo_Gaming Ohhh okay I was wonder how this russian bootleg of the classic fallout hasn't been piled up with requests to play yet.

[@themadgi]

So... next are you gonna talk about Underrail and Wasteland 2 ?

[@tobiasrizzostocco1140]

Amazing content, if you are still looking for apocalyptic games you should definitely try Almost Alive, the game is not done yet but it has some nice content already, it's worth a mention.

[@gabrieloliveiralima3772]

Damn, in 2004 i got extremely addicted to Fallout tactics, it was a great. But little by little things started to show, the open world is really limited, you can only find a handful of places outside the base and they are pretty boring, partly cus' you can't really engage in meaningful dialog with anyone. But it was fun, and in many ways feels better than fallout 3.

[@RVR121]

Once you 1 hit someone with a plunger from stealth do you really need more?

[@5ecretcode]

Almost Alive

[@Tentacl]

I have a bittersweet relation with this game. Just love the engine and systems, but I want a good story mode, not a pvp mode.

[@FhargaZ]

Never heard about this game 😑. Nice video.

[@tangcheesum5418]

Hope the single player campaign with many levels and good story lines.

[@Winner8501]

I am one of those players who loved Fallout Tactics, despite the facts it wasn't technically an RPG. I just like the world of Fallout and there was enough story mixed in with the action to keep me interested (I actually quite like the plot for what it was), with clear progression from fighting weak bandits to super difficult battles against supermutants and robots.

[@johnnyscifi]

Planescape: Torment was fantastic !!!

[@astonmartin8537]

I enjoyed Fallout tactics when it came out. It focus mainly on the combat then the story. I wish they can remake that game.

[@MattyDaKing]

Never heard of this but love post apocalypse stuff (games, novels, movies, etc.) with a passion! Is it Steam only? If so, might need to pass (prefer GOG) but if there's no single player... that's an easy pass, sadly. :(

[@tnh723]

"magazine capacity" not clip size. with the utmost respect new subscriber here! gonna binge your stuff tonight. played Fallout 1 to NV. old bioware and interplay fan here :-)

[@mikaelhauk]

SINGLE PLAYER CAMPAIGN! FUCK YEAH!

[@KageRyuu6]

What about Grim Dawn? Not your typical post apoc, given that it takes place during said apoclypse, but worth noting all the same.

[@vcdonovan5943]

aka "apocalypse with demons." Didn't Indi do a feature on Hellgate? ;)

[@whateverUsay64]

How about afterfall reconquest review

[@larskrantz1463]

Wow! Sound interesting!

[@matthias3175]

Thank you for the single player campain, its hard to find other players for this great game. Is there a roadmap, whats comming next? New content like new Quest, Areas, and minor bugfixing. Please dont stop the development, its a good game with a great potential. Is it possible to make a update for a round-base fighting system not only to stop the game for orders. Thank you and greetings from germany.

[@JohnAquariusPodcast]

Big tactics fan been looking for a successor

[@elguitarTom]

I tried it, but with Fallout 1 and 2 I like more the free roaming and "do what you want" approach

[@cesar9058]

please make a fallout tactics brotherhood LOOK INTO, for me it was one of the best tactical games ever made, and all others should aim at that level of action/tactics

[@Nicolas-yd2mw]

This is the game i was looking for ! Thank you !

[@informitas0117]

I've actually played this. It's pretty bad, but to be fair I think I clicked enemies to attack. Good video though!

[@luciana-anna]

This is great but I still dream of Daggerfall Unity Project Tamriel. With a side of A Song of ice and fire done in Daggerfall Unity. Oh man. I just keep remembering new stuff. Fallout 1 and 2 in Daggerfall Unity engine.

[@henrimichaux8261]

do a kenshi review

[@Indigo_Gaming]

That's gonna be a big one to dig into. Heard it has some great ideas, though!

[@pendantblade6361]

Sad that SP aint a thing but you sold me on it!

[@Indigo_Gaming]

Yeah it has about 0% story right now. But I'm hopeful for the campaign they announced.

[@everx7]

As i read here they planning sp campaing, if they do, ill be all in it. I liked Fallout tactics despite many didnt. It felt like fallout without being like classic fallout.

[@Qmodi]

id love a game like this but in the xcom universe

[@highlandrab19]

You sorta just started talking about fo tactics then merged into dustwind making it hard to tell which game you are talking about at and one point

[@Reds-Retros]

If this was turn based, I'd be all over it.

[@frankieb9444]

Enjoying Underrail right now, really scratching the FO2 itch.

[@johnnyspliff4900]

They got that single player yet

[@Indigo_Gaming]

Unfortunately, you can't update KZbin videos, but yes, they did add the single player campaign several months after this video released.

[@johnnyspliff4900]

@@Indigo_Gaming Nice! ill check it out soon then

[@ps238principal]

FYI: "linear" isn't pronounced "lineer." It's lin-EE-arr.

[@paulhughes6101]

1. DARKWOOD 2. Metro exodus #ApocalypseArchives

[@CommanderBohn]

I hate how Bethesda mutilated the series. Also I will never be NOT MAD over not getting Tactics 2. Gator Men and F.E.V. fungal environment as a may or may not Big Bad.

[@TylerJBrown192]

Great video, as per usual Indigo!

[@endersblade]

Fallout Tactics and Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel were two completely different games. BoS was a console-only game based on the Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance engine.

[@joenoname9909]

You can equip only 2 items (weapon, armor), no storyline, no conversations. Pretty weak, seems like Wasteland 2 still got rank 1 in the genre.

[@zacharyheine4177]

Yo if you're still doing this you gotta check out ATOM RPG It's isometric role playing game basically fallout 2 in Russia

[@gungriffen]

They should have followed the Shadow Run system of just allowing community made campaigns that actually worked really really well. While some campaigns sucked the STEAM Workshop rating systems quickly allowed you to pick the ones of quality.

[@peterharband326]

Fallout Tactics was a single player game. Can't see this as a successor. Wasteland 2 was, as a previous posted said.

[@Dermetsu]

I'm back 6 months later and I'm pleased to say it has a single player campaign now.

[@bunkermaster4623]

Is it good?

[@doingmypart666]

i love fallout tacticts .. but on this video, i see lots of bugs, missing details, lagging movement etc ..

[@Zen-rw2fz]

why don't you talk about wasteland 2 and 3, they're literary the actuall fallout succesor, just like when fallout was to wasteland

[@JohnnyCasey]

The reason why Fallout: Tactics is not as great as any other Fallout game is because the game has horrendous control while it features real time strategy combat; where the control is matter the most. No movement way point, no command queneing(only for vehicles), select, move, attack shares the same input; left mouse, and there's a delay between when you order a command, and an unit executes the command. The control in FOT is godawful, and that is the reason why it only remained as 'an OK-ish game' By looking at the game footage you have provided, I don't believe Dustwind has any better control system than FOT, unfortunately. And it doesn't look like it has a turn based combat system that you can switch on whenever you want, OR any form of pause during gameplay for better microing; which are the things that even FOT has. For this reason, I'm not interested into this game, nor I believe the term _"spiritual successor you should be playing"_ is suitable for Dustwind.

[@Mordra]

Notification squad!

[@gavinpeters9531]

Tuned out at "real time combat"

[@marinodezelak1180]

awesome,.... but you lost me the second you said there's no story.

[@Indigo_Gaming]

They've added a campaign to the game since I covered it, so I'd give the game another look.

[@anoobisshenanigans4800]

Fallout and baulders gate….so fallout 1 & 2?

[@sshelton1433]

Fallout Tactics is a good game